It is rather that the same person that can be hypergamously attractive to some women who are less sociopathic than he is, while being considered a soft wuss by other wimminz who are more sociopathic than he is.

In other words I think that wimminz are not attracted necessarily to all bad boys, but only to those badder than they are. Which explains why only a small minority of men make wimminz wet: most wimminz seem to me more sociopathic than most men (a point that AfOR often illustrates).

My point here is that hypergamy is thus relative (to a particular wimminz’s own level of badness), not absolute.

I also think that there is an upper limit to hypergamy: that while a wimminz will drip for a man who is somewhat more (in a fairly wide band) of a sociopath than she is, she will not drip for a man who is way way more of a sociopath than she is, because that makes her scared.

Thus the eternal quest by wimminz to find The One: the man who is more of an uncaring jerk than she is, but not much more so, at least to her, but just at the right level. It is the quest for fried ice that is so well illustrated in the vast number of “romance” novels.

It is not really “humour”, it is a fiction documentary.

Please please read *both* if you haven’t already, the wimminz story is almost all there. I read both as a teenager, and my life was changed… Well before PUAs or Heartiste.

this is where the mantra about wimminz being “hypergamous” falls flat on its face.

That is not, by any definition of the term, hypergamy, this is the predatory mugger preying on the weak, stupid and docile, maximum compensation for minimum effort and risk, bottom feeding.

Ohi AfOR, I can follow most of your stories, but here I think you misunderstand the “hypergamy” story.

Wimminz have /two/ different attitudes to men:

* They fancy him rotten because he is a real bad boy (sociopath/psychopath): hypergamy kicks in and they will “lend” him money, they will buy him stuff, they will go into debt for him, they will turn tricks for him, they will hook him up with their sister, … all to make him come back and make them drip and fuck them for his pleasure alone.

* When they instead feel that he is a sweet piece of romantic loser: they will do exactly the opposite and milk him for all that he can borrow and then some, and make impossible demands of him, and treat him like shit for never measuring up, and sometimes with annoyance give him a hand job and if he is lucky and the wimminz has nothing better around, let him lick them.

Wimminz prey on the “weak, stupid and docile” which they identify with the suckers who “love” them, who need her more than she needs him, but are very very eager to to be preyed upon by the bastard bad boys, it gives them a dripping thrill.

The wimminz who do the vanish act do so because they had you down as a sucker, and once they see that you have character and independence, they realize they can’t play you; but they don’t buy you a new car, or come over to do your laundry, or hook you up with their sister, etc.because don’t have you down as a bad boy.

This will disappoint you perhaps 🙂 but to wimminz a bad boy makes them drip is someone more of a sociopath than they are, and some wimminz are themselves so sociopathic that they would drip only for Tamurlane or Manson, and you don’t make the cut. Sorry about that.

So they go away, because you fall into a crack in their attitudes: a) you obviously have got your stuff together and they can’t easily play *you*, b) you are not sociopathic enough for them to be thrilled by being played *by you*.

Hypergamy nearly always works, but for some women hypergamy is triggered only by mass murderers or at least someone who has dealt in blood and misery, and they regard more sensitive and sentimental men like you 🙂 as tools.