Comments on: It is a curious thing.

By: malenfant

malenfant — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 20:28:50 +0000

Good to know and thanks awfully.

By: hans

hans — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 19:55:17 +0000

*shrugs
I don´t post to win the fucking vote nor am I in the business of doing your thinking for you.

By: malenfant

malenfant — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 19:21:00 +0000

Hyperbole and condescention. Your not painting yourself in a good light Hans.

By: hans

hans — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:08:04 +0000

I think you just proved I presumed exactly right.
You attach “merit to a technology that constantly produces toxic and mutagenic matter of (hopefully) lethal levels.
That stays this way for virtual eternity, THUS CANNOT BE CONTAINED from eventually rendering useless water tables/whole regions of the planet.

But don´t worry you´re not alone suffering from this cognitive dissonance and I will not try to relieve you from it.
A couple of times already I´ve had similar discussions on this topic and learned my lesson.

Though I do have hope for you for seeing through the rouse that are the various green parties and “ecowarriors”. 😉

By: malenfant

malenfant — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:16:15 +0000

Actually it’s the environmental lobby that has been effective in selling their INSANE and WORTHLESS concepts.

And you presume too much. I haven’t been sold anything . Nor propagandized. The technology stands on its own merits.

By: Tim

Tim — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:32:12 +0000

That was bloody brilliant. I love the fact this site gices such a well-rounded dose of reality in al things, not just ‘wimminz’

Great read

By: freeman

freeman — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:39:50 +0000

I think a combustion teardrop styled car with bicycle tires is more likely. That would double the average MPG people get, so gas prices could rise twice as much and most people would still be able to function in a modern industrial society. I do see rickshaws making a comeback. In the Philippines, where most people are dirt poor, people tend to get around through a combination of rickshaws (especially for hauling supplies back to home), combustion tricycles, and open air buses called jeepneys. The cars you do see are mostly lower displacement (1.3L and such), usually only in the major cities where people can afford them.

If society were to remain a modern industrial society in the midst of an energy scarcity, there would need to be major changes. Instead of millions burning up limited fuel to commute, telecommuting on a massive scale for all the make-work and paper pushing jobs needs to occur. Work would be audited daily or weekly and submitted through encrypted mail, face to face meetings could happen weekly or monthly. This would save on office leasing costs, utility costs, parking requirements, no need for sick leave, etc. People would live in smaller, better insulated and efficiently lit houses, consuming less electricity and using less heating and cooling. People would buy less useless things, and fix the broken products they already have, reducing the energy used to manufacture needless products. Most people would have personal gardens and chicken coops to grow energy and nutrient dense foods, saving fuel from the semis that ship from farm to supermarket, and electricity to keep everything cold and lit at the supermarket. All streaming videos online would be cut to low quality to save bandwidth, and most communication would be through email or text SMS, further lowering energy usage on the grid used by data comms. Cooking could be done using a sun oven, or on stovetop, slow cooker, or toaster oven. The people who need to drive would use something like this: http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/02/Elio-Motors-P4-Vehicle-537×405.jpg, or something like a Honda Fit or Ford Transit for cargo hauling.

But all of that would eat into the exponential growth of the major “food” corporations, real estate and homebuilder industries, financial institutions, tax collection for municipalities, consumer goods corporations, etc etc.

By: hans

hans — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 12:17:59 +0000

It always astounds me how effective the Atomic lobby has been in selling their INSANE energy generation concept.

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:29:26 +0000

theoretically the price of liquid fossil fuel could climb relative to the price of coal and nuclear. If the price climbs high enough, people will warm up to the electric teardrop styled car with bicycle tires. Or maybe rickshaws will become fashionable again.

By: malenfant

malenfant — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 05:19:07 +0000

Yes in a sane society we would be building out nuclear capacity with something akin it full-blown panic.

LWRs – DUPIC fuel cycle – HWRs(CANDU) – dry storage/ geological/ sub-sea disposal. No vaporware. A no-brainer. Instead…

The only consolation is I might live long enough to see the entire stinking edifice come down on their fucking heads.