2019/05/22 01:00:02
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Sky – Toccata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgbgUrp1a70
… let’s get moving … with Spyker
Twintig jaar Spyker in een shot – Sjoerds Weetjes #126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARRPefxZk_c
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The United States sees signs the Syrian government may be using
chemical weapons, including an alleged chlorine attack on Sunday in northwest Syria, the State
Department said on Tuesday, warning that Washington and its allies would respond “quickly and
appropriately” if this were proven.
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/u-s–says-signs-syria-may-be-using-chemical-weapons–warns-of-quick-response/44980094
Then I guess the US backed ‘rebels’ are losing too much ground.
While the MSM (read: Hegemon spokesperson) has been dead silent on the last OPCW report, that the Douma attack was a clear flase flag, expect the zombified masses to eat it anyway.
Maybe it will be of a slight comfort, that the effects of exposure to chlorine gas are absolutely genderneutral.
Cheers, Rob
Earlier in the day, the Russian centre for Syrian reconciliation warned that terrorists in Syria
were planning to stage chemical attacks in the Idlib de-escalation zone, as well as west of
Aleppo province.
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201905221075212656-signs-syrian-government-chemical-weapons-state-department/
President Assad is a close ally of Putin’s. Hence, Novichok would seem a more feasible option, methinks.
VT: Trump Ordered Fake Gas Attack on Syria as “Distraction”
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/05/21/vt-trump-ordered-fake-gas-attack-on-syria-as-distraction/
A visitor suggested calling the machine “Congress” …
The amazing “Do Nothing Machine” at the Museum of Craftsmanship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp4tGTNNi1I
My dear friends, I am grateful for your condolences, thank you !
kinterra – While I thank you for your special words, have to tell you that my mom had gone to a similar process, at the end her body couldn’t cope with so much toxins and gave up. Sadly, she didin’t passed away in my presence, after having lunched she fell asleep. I visited her on Friday last week and saw her deteriorated general state of her body and mind. She barely recognized me, only when I touched her head, she felt that I am, took my hand in her hand and begun to kiss my hand saying : “I love you so much….”, will you take me home with you…” On that moment I decided that on Monday I will take her home. Sunday, while writing my reply to Anonymous, got the tragic phone call. On Monday had to travel again 80 miles to take her clothes and sign the formality papers, which continued till this day and is not yet over, this Friday I have to go again to that terrible ill fated place to take home her ashes. I knew, once this day shall come, but as her son who lived in the same house with her for 28 years, taking care of her after she got this illness (Dementia, Alzheimer) during 15 years, letting aside my work to be a family care-taker 24 hours/day for the last 8 years being payed by the state with a miserable (I kid you not) 100 dollars/month, seeing her condition deteriorating in a abrupt fashion mainly in the last two years, hoping for a stabilization at least – you can imagine the hole she left in the house, in my soul and mind. The silence and the emptiness – you cannot be prepared, it struck you, being very hard to digest, it will take much time. One day, I will have to take her ashes and bring them to her loved home where she was born and grew up, where her parents are buried, back in Romania, I promised her that, well before this happened.
Letter from Mom
by ioan
What can I tell you, my dear son,
I’m old and tired, my years have gone
I lost my sighting, I lost my hearing
My heart is weak, my time is nearing…
Goodbye, My Son, so long
Be good, be well, be strong
My Love your sadness heals
We’ll meet again in dreams !
I lost my memory, my past with it
I lost my reason and my wit,
Stretching your days, my dear son
I know, I know, it wasn’t fun…
Goodbye, My Son, so long
Be good, be well, be strong
My Love, your sadness heals
We’ll meet again in dreams !
My soul, my heart, that of a mother
Gave me for a while the power,
To be with you, to feel your touch
Then time has come, I stayed too much!
Goodbye, My Son, so long
Be good, be well, be strong
My Love, your sadness heals
We’ll meet again in dreams !
I have to tell you before I’m gone
The most important; above all,
I love you so, I’ve always done
In deepest love burning my core!
Goodbye, My Son, so long
Be good, be well, be strong
My Love, your sadness heals
We’ll meet again in dreams !
Goodbye, My Son, so long
Be good, be well, be strong
When time shall come for you,
We’ll meet in Love and Truth !
————-
So be it my dear Mom, so be it !
Thanks again, ioan, for sharing your experiences with life and death; and writing such a memorable poem. You do honor to your mother.
Your very personal rendition of life reminds me that such personal life circumstances underlie the surface phenomenon of politics and business. I keep that in mind as I tackle my own personal issues while simultaneously resisting empire which fosters ‘war, disease, famine and death.’
Dear Ioan, I am so sorry to hear this news, that your mother has passed. You will miss her for the rest of your life, but she will continue forever in your heart.
Beautiful effort! In the love of Spirit, dear friend.
This song was one of the favorites for my mom. I dedicate this song for all the moms of this world and their sons and daughters who lost their mother :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JjD8lUAI5o Demis Roussos – When Forever Has Gone
My deepest condolences, Ioan. I just read it now. Thanks for sharing your story, may it be somewhat of a comfort, I lost my mother too after a devastating illness some years ago, but at least we could talk to each other and say goodbye.
This song/poem is beautiful.
Stay strong.
Cheers, Rob
Dear ioan, my sincere condolence.
Azorka
Good Bye My Love Good bye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiktOs4dLHg
Food for spirit, feeds the soul. Easily digested,
You need nice knuckle bones they contain the most colligen.
4-6 will do.
Spead the bones on a baking sheet. Season, then sprinkle with diced onion. (Add a few chicken feet as an option)
Bake for 1 1/2 hours at 350, till onion is carmalized.
Put bones and all expresed liquid into a large pot or crock pot.
Cover with water. Add two bay leaves and one whole chili pepper, do not chop up (I use whole dried chilis).
*This is the most important part. Add 1 to 2 tablespoons of viniger, preferably apple made from the mother.
Vinigar breaks down the bones and helps with colligen extraction. Reseason to taste.
Cook for minimum 4-6 hrs, but 12-14 overnight, works best.
Cool liquid and drink as a tonic, use liquid as a base for soups, stews and gravies.
You will never get this much nutrition from anything in a can, from the store.
Broth health benifits are legend for healing the human gut from all manner of aliment.
sean the leprechaun, my man of the day! (grins).
We need more brothals!
If I’m doing beef stock, I usually simmer easily for 16 hours and even more but I don’t usually do your trick of putting in the oven first. That is one for me to try – thanks! Mmmm, I can taste that flavor already! Soup bones on the shopping list!
Chicken (chicken bones from organic chickens) simmer also for 12 hours with some herbs, an onion, carrot and a few stalks of celery.
And I’m probably the only person that you know that goes and buys a few freshly filetted fish heads and bones at the market .. those can be simmered for 6 hours also with herbs, onion, carrot and celery and bay leaf / herbs. (it really reeks for the first few hours, so open the windows and wait for the neighbors to go to work!)
Add salt only at the end of the cooking cycle – I don’t know why, but this is just the way I do it… Probably an old fashioned belief that to salt too early, dries out the food.
Apple Cider Vinegar with the mother is just the best but vinegar is a have to add it ingredient for stocks and broths! And like you say, the idea is to get that ever important collagen.
And I make veggie stock as well. All the bits of veggies that get ‘cut off’ and discarded, ends of tomatoes, onions, carrots … anything but not cauliflower or brussel sprouts or cabbage – too strong tasting for a stock or a broth. I have this bag of discards that go in the freezer until I have a bunch, and then that gets cooked up into a vegetable stock or broth. Here I also aim for 6 hours, but 4 will do.
A change on the bay leaves is to put in a bouquet garni! A bunch of fresh herbs tied together or in a little muslin bag, and this gives a wonderful herb taste. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouquet_garni
Stocks and broths also are a kitchen alchemy because when it is done, it changes state – your nose will tell you because the aroma changes … chicken for example does not smell like chicken, but it smells like broth .. This stuff takes long to prepare but it truly is food for the soul and healing for the belly.
Dont forget to add a little water if it cooks away and then let it cool a bit, and then use a colander to sift through and discard all the solid bits and bones that remain.
amarynth, I like your cooking posts. A tip – chicken stock is mostly extracted by simmering for just two hours, you can save some energy and still get 95% of the goodness out of the bones this way.
I try to compost most of my left over veggie bits. Feeds the earth for the next cycle. And I personally was never one for veggie soup, it’s okay sometimes, when just taking a day off from meat protien, but like this morning, woke up at 4 to the smell of the soup bones cooking. Free bones too, I was picking up pork bellies to make bacon and chicerons(a recipe for latter), and the butcher asked if I’d like a bag of bones, graitas. Works for me. The Mexicans there, were buying lots of beef tenderloin, white stuff that I’m not familiar with, but when I asled them they said they make soup with it, must investigate that.
On the chillis: I view food as medicine, and yes even I can over do it, gluttiny, not good. So moderation is a chore sometimes, espicially when it’s tasty. But for anyone living in warmer climates, say southern states, Mexico, etc, working with animals (Andrei) internal parasites are a problem. Many of the parasites are undetectable by medical tests, normally found only at autopsy time. A bit late.
The capsicum in hot chillies does not favor parasites, so adding them into ones diet can go a long way to keeping intestinal parasites in check. Also, capsicum when eaten, floods the lungs with fresh blood, like a big rush. That in turn floats all the phelegm and other debris of the lungs surface, forcing it up and out as sputum. Guacomole is one of the best ways to do several different chillis at the same time. Anyone trying this will know when it happens, forehead gets warm and sweat beads break out. The healing power of chillies!
Paul,
Thanks for your comment in a previous cafe and its reasonable questions. Your engineering background helps you stayed grounded. I will attempt to answer your questions reasonably; and when that proves too time consuming, I’ll use my intuition and experience.
You asked what the connection was between obor and 9/11. I can answer that in one or two words; and then expand the inquiry. My short answer is that both are connected to ‘money and power.’ In other words: follow the money.
There were many objectives for 9/11 but in the end, they were all about money and power. Huge repayments were due about that time; and records were destroyed. Naval Intelligence had records of incriminating evidence, and it was destroyed. Insurance policies were taken out just prior to the event on just such a happening. People who were said to be dead had life insurance. 9/11 ignited a war fever in the Middle East which required billions of dollars from congress. Some two or three trillion went missing which Rumsfeld announced the day before 9/11. The wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and elsewhere stole resources worth trillions. 9/11 demonstrated how gullible the public is which allows for more stealth. It tested new weapons (not nuclear) which saved millions of dollars, while achieving its other results. It implemented a change in world affairs whereby the Empire took greater control of the globe and its money. It instilled fear in the populace which drives more consumerism; and thus more profits for the bosses. The armaments business boomed. There were more reasons but that’s enough for now.
I’m writing from memory which could be inaccurate in details; but the general picture is clear. The Trillionaire Families ‘engineered’ 9/11 to make trillions and secure their control of people and resources, which promised multi-trillions down the road.
9/11 is the ‘hard sell’ for profit and power. obor is the soft side of the same goal: money and power. obor/bri is the ancient vice of the usury/debt-trap on steroids; using money to make money until there is nothing left of real money. This is covered with many layers of deception. obor is sold as altruistic when it is anything but. If it were altruistic, it would provide free loans. No chance in hell that’s going to happen, except for those to its partners; and a few minor exceptions to virtue signal.
I am prejudiced against all forms of usury; as were the old religions and states. Others find it no problem. Most people think obor might be a good thing but there is a rising fear in investors (the ones that count; forget about the rest) that the picture is not so rosy and that the thorns are being hidden. So as usual, the MP’s (money powers) are engineering two sides and controlling both. Time will tell, of course, but I’ll be long gone before this show goes down.
I searched for ‘china obor in debt countries’ and got dozens of articles. I searched for ‘china free loans’ and strangely got many of the same articles. It confused the search; probably because there are no free loans like there are no free lunches. The articles no doubt are prejudiced themselves. I went to wiki but there are other search engines I did not go to which are likely controlled by the same powers. Wiki itself is a mouthpiece of the global powers which are pushing obor; so that must be factored in, as a marker exposing obor’s true colors.
Here are the first five articles up at wiki; you can continue with dozens of others. Next, I will show how obor is one huge money scam.
https://www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/examining-debt-implications-belt-and-road-initiative-policy-perspective.pdf
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/05/chinas-belt-and-road-initiative-raises-debt-risks-in-8-nations.html
https://qz.com/1497584/how-chinas-debt-trap-diplomacy-came-under-siege-in-2018/
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/2188577/china-defends-belt-and-road-strategy-against-debt-trap-claims
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3008326/why-chinas-belt-and-road-loans-may-not-be-debt-trap-other
Just think of it. All those loan repayments from around the earth, funneled into the empire coffers; not to speak of the foreclosures and seizing assets and resources. You might say; china is benefiting; yes, but (imo) israel is behind china and the trillionaires behind israel are the top of the food chain.
obor has been in the plans for world domination for a good five hundred years. See Bunting Cloverleaf Map. The goal of the money powers is total control of the planet, doing whatever it takes. obor intends to be a transport system over the entire planet. Money is being transported into one big bank system, presently bis, the central bank of banks; again encompassing the earth. It’s the new world order of globalism and trans-humanism. I see no need to go into all the gory details; I’m trying to see the big picture and connect dots.
Regarding 9/11 and obor, I’ll leave it at that for now. You can offer rebuttals or ask more questions. I want to get on to your other interesting questions.
I have researched Dimitri Khalezov. I’ll tell you upfront that just by looking at his picture, he strikes me as a crook and spook, paid by empire to muddy the waters about 911; and cause more confusion about it. He thinks nuclear charges took down the towers. I’ve argued elsewhere that nuclear weapons are a global empire hoax to instill fear in the populace and thereby control and rob them. If nuclear bombs exploded under and near the ground, the barriers would have collapsed and the nearby river waters would have flooded Manhattan; plus decimating surrounding buildings. Khalezov is spreading nonsense.
I don’t want to waste my time by providing ‘sources’ since ‘those persuaded against their will have the same opinion still.’ If anyone is interested in discovering the truth about 911 and nuclear weapons, they can do their own research like I do.
I have read Judy Wood’s book on the towers, and unless she’s a paid agent and photo-shopped all those photos of strange fires and pulverization, something was going on that intelligence/cia are not telling us. I think, that besides all the money theft and destruction of records, etc., empire was testing its new weapons; and no, they were not nuclear, contrary to Dimitri.
As for radiation in the oceans, if the reported tests are not skewed by the controlled scientists and media, it could derive from nuclear reactors. I don’t know; I wasn’t there.
As for witnesses who report that they saw atomic bombs explode over those atolls in the Pacific, people can ‘see’ a lot of things if their minds are manipulated, especially if they’re in the military under orders to ‘see correctly,’ or government contractors, just plain paid agents or desirous of seeing what they want to see, primed by programming. Look how we are managed now to ‘see’ 911 in the politically correct way. Some see through that, but not yet about the hoax of nuclear bombs.
I’ve done a fair amount of research on the first atomic bombs; and find the evidence conclusive that they were faked; particularly the pictures of those mushroom clouds. It’s not that difficult to pile up tons of explosives, detonate them, have witnesses see them, and then feed the public with doctored pictures. It’s done all the time, like with men on the moon. Yes, we are that stupid, as a rule. Recall all the false misinformation about the pyramids.
If anyone is really interested, I can provide sites, persons and groups who I have come to trust as truth-tellers; but why should you trust me? You have to follow your own lights.
Sorry to be so brief and even curt, but time is short and space is shrinking. Thanks, Paul, for your work on the pyramids, and for raising these interesting cases. When it comes to the human pyramid schemes, they’re much more difficult to solve than Egyptian ones. The human mind pyramid is completely topsy-turvy upside down. We need a new Ezekiel to come down in his chariot and give us a new scripture.
On the positive side, as a postscript, there is a true pyramid, upside down from our perspective, which is the alternative to the fake pyramid world we live in now. That pyramid is our restoration. It dwarfs the puny ones we know of. Flip the false ones, multiply by 1 with a hundred zeros, and behold the whole earth with its dozen triangular zodiacal parts.
Dennis. The banks underlying BRI are the only banking system in world to make full provision for the Islamic system of money management. You know that there is no usury in the Islamic system.
I am also philosophically against systems of usury. Yet, to cut this so clear, to my mind is a misunderstanding of how finances work in our world. Can you define usury? I mean a proper definition?
If I go and borrow a cup of sugar from my neighbor because I’ve run out, and later return that cup of sugar plus a plate of muffins to say thank-you – is that usury? If my neighbor comes to pick some fruit from my tree to make jam and gives me a few bottles back to say thank-you is that usury?
BRI business initiatives usually are not loans, but joint initiatives underwritten by a bank.
Yes, let’s start an BRI discussion, but let’s do the definitions first. What is usury? In stark reality … how does the money flow?
How glad am I, reading your clarifications again and again. In them to me is a clearest lot of the essence of ‘what hasn’t been possible before now’ , an old kind of balance, similar to Saker’s . Again, glad am I for you in the flow of spirit from all directions here in the cafe.
My reflections concern the existing but not ‘hic et nunc perceivable’ ‘games’ of the archetypes, which like the high winds of the jet-stream sometimes devastating reach the bottom, of material Earth or psyche.
Next Monday for our unconscious Venus is another fiery birthday, about her and the whole heavenly bunch is my diary of the current week
https://astromundanediary.blogspot.com/2019/05/venusintermission-on-monday.html
amarynth
What things are cannot be known, but what something is in relation to something else that can be known, because of this usury, worth, gift and work can be defined in a general form for atleast a society (there may be societies who by history define or weight them differently).
In general something is worth as much ‘work’ has been put in if it is an item of consumption or production in the strict sense. Things of pure social exchange like jewelry, art etc. are not covered here, because their worth is based mostly on personal preference, however for the base assumption what the minimum generalisation of worth is it is included which is:
The worth cannot be lower than the amount of materials, food, clothing etc. of worth which were to be consumed tor create it, because if otherwise the operation will cease through lack of input and thus amount to a simple transfer of material from one subject to another in one direction.
The worth for consumption- or production- items on the other hand cannot be higher, because otherwise a simple transfer of material (and thus worth) from one Subject to another takes place.
Now usury is used only in the exchange of frozen (stored) ‘worth’ from one subject to another and back after a certain amount time with some additional worth.
Such a type of exchange therefore is nothing else than the transfer of worth from one subject to another.
But the above described exchange performed without usury could include a certain amount of worth to be added on return, because of the inherent risk of the exchange, namely the time factor and thus possible change eg. the second subject ceases to exist together with the worthy item, in this case a simple transfer would have taken place from one subject to another. The debtors pay for the risk of the lender, if nothing happend after a given time it must be returned to the debtors (this is in fact a very real mechansim in today’s lending business and has nothing to do with usury IF the worth not being needed would be returned, which it is not of course today) – it’s basically an insurance.
The exchange of money and associated worth or vice versa in a circular motion is only possible if the exchange is even, that’s the whole purpose of the exchange else it would be a transfer.
A just society for a lot of obvious reasons must be able to mantain just and durable exchange, else it is not just.
The states regarding the worth for both is not changing only the composition of the Item ‘bag’ does.
Work then itself is just an alloted sum of worths of the consumed worths (food, prod. Items etc.) then can be defined the same for consumption or productive goods.
So we have a A = B = C everything is equal the only input or external is energy which cannot be destroyed or created only collected and transformed.
Really boring !
But the really interesting thing starts when social subjectivity enters the game and therefore uniqueness, they are secondary but essential in social exchange eg. a gift. There a material item which is more or less socially charged is exchanged with a pure social item (admiration, love etc.). to do so primary worth must be available in storage and people seek to store it to become socially active at the right moment.
There is nothing more to it really
Usury socially is the paying of tribute without return, because if the Subject who for instance receives a gift because he lent part of his savings, and then sometime returns the favor at a time when he is in need equally nothing bad happens it is in no way usury.
If the worth is removed from the cycle and storage the system goes into depravity – prizes will start to rise per item and the whole will grind to a halt after a very short time – it’s the best way to submit a society to the will of few who then erect an unjust system of exchange where in a steady stream worth is transferred to the usurer who only returns as much worth as he likes back into the system.
Therefore Usury is an unjust form of social exchange basically – or more precise theft.
Now what exactly is just and why it is possible, brings us back to Sokrates which as well has all but been ‘forgotten’ for very obvious reasons.
HDan, I’m trying to get Dennis to define the terminology that he so easily uses to call something else ‘evil’. Like usury, like debt trap, like BRI is a plan for world domination, like money is being transported into one big bank system, like all those loan repayments from around the earth, funneled into the empire coffers, empire, which Dennis uses in a different sense that what most of us use that word in, rising fear of obor investors .. etc etc. I could be reading Zerohedge.
Let’s see if Dennis can give me a definition of usury. In your writeup, you keep your A B and C constant. Money does not work that way .. values change constantly. So, to even define ‘worth’ of your inputs and outputs is not possible excepting for one moment in time unless we are in a stable state economy, and we are not. Money is not a just and durable exchange and it is absolutely not a ‘static value’ exchange. So, A,B and C can never be constant. To be clear, I’m not saying it is right and correct and just or making value judgement, I’m saying it is not possible to keep it constant.
So, in the real world, can anyone define usury? because we’re accusing the BRI system of usury – but do we even know what it is in context?
So, a simple question, knowing what we know, what is usury?
BRI is a huge conceptual system of interconnection between countries that do not make provision for war. It has 5 mechanisms one of which is people-to-people exchanges. In this context, Dennis keeps talking the stuff that he is talking, taking one aspect of BRI and in my opinion, not even understanding most of it, neither the historical base of the Silk Roads which brought us paper, compass, silk of course which is a lovely thing, and gunpowder historically. There is a nice graphic here : /2nd-belt-and-road-forum-an-informational/
Dennis says he did a couple of searches, but there is enough information on TheSaker blog to start studying this. Wikipedia does not have a clue.
It is a dead easy question – What is usury? Practical and non theoretical. How does the money flow in usury? The question can be phrased differently – Why did Jesus chase the money-changers out of the temple? What was the issue there? And once we have a definition of usury, of course we can put BRI under scrutiny for that aspect alone.
But the deeper issue here is to absolutely not understand – it is not understanding BRI system and financial instruments – it is not even a willingness to deeply look at this subject because of fear. What it is, well, it is a wailing and keening insistence that it cannot possibly be good for humankind and the wailing and keening is because the work to understand it, is not being done – devil’s coming to get ya! fearmongering based on ‘filthy lucre’ ideas and why should we actually work to understand the economics in our world? We should all be wafting around in a free world. (Besides the fact that I think we should all be working and not wafting in a free world – somebody should do some research). It is a list of words, valid or not, where not even the words are understood in their economic meaning.
Kindly show me a Belt and Road business and demonstrate the so-called ‘debt-trap’. That word by itself – one can do well to search out who and where it was first used.
For those that are interested, here is a starting point: https://schillerinstitute.com/why-chinas-debtbook-diplomacy-is-a-hoax/
(And no, I don’t like or do like the LaRouche Pac or whatever it is, but this institute did the homework on the word debt-trap).
Dennis makes the assertions, now, let him define and defend them. Just like Paul said, let’s bring a little science or some research to this project instead of wallowing in half baked theories that do not stand up to the least scrutiny.
@Bro, consider, not gold, not silver, not crypto .. just pure energy both in the esoteric and unmysterious spheres. That is what the means of exchange is in my view. We just have different tokens to represent that.
“So, in the real world, can anyone define usury? because we’re accusing the BRI system of usury – but do we even know what it is in context?”
One hundred years ago no one would have thought even of not writing or receiving letters, and of instant communicating via an electronic medium. A perspective of the massive, swift development of technological changes that have irrevocably altered our lives may be important. What is real, what is the real world, what does ‘reality’ mean ? Do we all have the same perception of this /
Interesting discussion, thank you, all the comments worthy and have much value. There– value !
amarynth:
Well I tried to nail the terms of those words and what they fundamentally mean, and not of course in the jungle of the actual simulation we currently run in named ‘economy’, although still the meanings have some truth nonetheless because otherwise even that theater would cease to exist and it’s very well heading in that direction.
This Cafe must hold the record of propaganda links posted in a few days.
vot tak calls it out .. cia propaganda, cia disinfo sites.
And we were even treated to a link from the one who channels the so-called white dragons. That person there, Fulford, whose link I don’t want to repeat has never said anything of any import.
Wikipedia and Zerohedge are held up as reliable sources and they are not, unless used with great caution.
Zerohedge is a news aggregator. You can always see who actually wrote an article at the top. Do that person a favor, and click on their real article, verify it, and then link the real writer. Zerohedge makes money on the work of others, so respect the writer of something you feel is good and truthful, and give that writer a click.
Wikipedia is very handy for factual things, like dates and names and especially their additional links at the bottom of the writings. Do bear in mind that anything controversial is based on a political stance. So even Wikipedia information must be checked by you for accuracy, before posting because it is a free site, where anyone can write something. The Wikipedia political moderator fights are legendary!
If you want China information, read the Chinese press in English. It is a centrally managed country with a wide variety of views, but because it is centrally managed, and get their seating areas kicked if they tell nonsense, their press is usually more accurate than most, although the propaganda is strong.
If you want Russia information, go look for Russian sources. You will find sufficient of those on The Saker Blog.
If you read an article, make sure that the writer is at least familiar with their topic and not a person sitting in their mother’s basement regurgitating what others say.
Sott is a news aggregator but they have their own work as well. Again, look at the top of their article and give the real writer a click. I am not saying Sott does this, and I’ve never seen them do this, and they have a good aggregator service, but frequently the aggregators change the headline, or the first paragraph, for clickbait purposes.
Just a few weeks ago a poster posted this which I want to say thanks for, and I find it very handy. Ways around the academia paywall – https://fishthinkers.wordpress.com/2017/03/29/5-free-ways-around-the-great-paywall-of-academia/
Its worth while to go and read this and to know how to use these methods. I for one cannot pay 30 bucks each time I need to refer to a scholarly article.
To be sure, I am not against news aggregators as they are helpful. But please know what they are and verify the stuff. Sometimes they hide their sources and it needs some searching.
Veterans Today sometimes get it, and sometimes not at all.
They need to be verified and I just because Azorka1861 verified and stated credibility, I read it. I would not have paid attention otherwise. /moveable-feast-cafe-2019-05-22/#comment-650625
That is the issue .. credibility. In a world where all politicians lie, where most medias tell lies for political purposes, where we cannot trust scientists to give a honest result on science and put it in perspective, we have to be sure that our sources are credible.
Here is a fairly new site from a fraternal friend and so far I like it. They are also an aggregator, but an honest one, so far with their sources articles clearly defined both at their article listing, and at the bottom of each article, so one can easily go to the source. They also have some of their own work.
https://www.checkpointasia.net/
We need a cleanup in this Cafe aisle on links in my view please. .
And then as usual, from me, thanks to the poets and the music and the chaga and the broth and to those that actually defined a simple word such as usury. Its easy to throw such a word around but have no clue what it really means. Bro spoke well here, a certain anon spoke well and HDan spoke well and thank-you for real world descriptions.
We are truly in the throes of a true economic war .. perhaps we should try and learn what the issues are in reality although I know that many people just glaze over with the economic stuff and want to ignore it – but, it is a central part of our world. We cannot wish it away – that would be like wishing the earth and the sky and sun and the moon and the rivers and the oceans away – it is a fact of life as we are now in a new war front.
This war front believe you me is a civilizational epoch. It is the putrid systems of the West based on graft and scarcity, vs the yet unknown systems of the East.
This was supposed to be at the end of the Cafe, but I screwed up … (grins).
Thanks for your reply Dennis … I hear you loud and clear.
You have not read Khalezov’s book … you don’t trust his looks.
Yes, Khalezov has a droopy eyed shifty look, but hear the man speak via his youtube videos.
Woods has a lot going for her … she’s a woman … smooth talking with American accent and all American gestures and she claims evidence … shows pictures that are well known.
If you cannot get to know the man who speaks to you through his second language … by making some allowances for this and fighting your intuition, then what is to be done.
You have been guided to the water but refuse to drink … or drink enough.
Intuition is not logic and proper science must come into play here and the solution is …
read Khalezov.
I wouldn’t necessarily say atomic weapons are fake, rather they are stage props –better yet, a plot device.
The references to ‘nuclear’ and ‘atomic’ brought back memories of The World Book Encyclopedia and the mystery that there could be all of the powerful forces all explained in black and white (with a faux leather spine and gold leaf edges).
Maybe we think that the US Congress mainly consists of Israeli-paid loonies, but here in the EU we are dashingly catching up with our EU Parliament, for which tomorrow are elections. The politically correct tv stations have every night ‘mighty’ discussions, with foggy statements, and language that is kind of gaseous: it lifts off due to a serious lack of mass.
And it all boils down to ‘Europe is so important’. And there you have it, the only thing that interests them is *power*, even when we perish by the millions. Ask the Gilet Jaunes.
To illustrate the point, just read this tweets of Guy Verhofstadt, a well-known fraction leader in the EU parliament: https://www.rt.com/news/459843-europe-populist-russiagate-conspiracy/ . Really, this ejected mental diarrhea is on the level of a shrieking 12-year old boy in the school yard. ‘You are an *sshole yourself! We are gonne fight you know, after schooltime, if you dare!’.
(forget this added tweet of Louise Mensch. Waste of time. She even has been in the UK Parliament, and is totally insane. She could be the sister of Maxine Waters.)
And with that we have to cope. Really, the lunatics have taken over the asylum :-(
Cheers, Rob
Please bear with me my friends and spend a few minutes watching the videos below.
Started as a young, blonde skinny girl in Germany. Discovered the wonders of “surgery” on body parts, and THEN, discovered that certain injections supposedly to darken your skin color (sun bathing is to old fashioned) actually “converted” her racially to be black. (Video no. 2).
Please see them in sequence.
Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b20OT1ao78I
And here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=urrXtXxGz6g
She has a blog I believe, and a face book page. I personally can’t stand anymore atm.
Perspectives!!!
Best Neil Young concert EVER!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iXzMD3WXPA
Kent
Myth and facts about the legendary T 34 in two episodes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRtj_TSOHjw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTnS0XS2al8
And then this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dUAs40ymag The “Icon”
Enjoy
Kent
The Threshing Floor
the lean season is over
the rains have come and gone,
forgotten are the trials
and tribulations heretofore,
the sheaves are being gathered
and stacked against the wall,
admired by the old folk
down by the threshing floor
the work is gladly done
amidst laughter and cheer,
old stocks to be replenished
with abundance in store,
how the chaff it swirls
in the winnowing wind,
as the precious grain spills
all over the threshing floor
the families they share
their heartaches and joys,
as the children they play
by the old sycamore,
their numbers decreasing
as neighbours disappear,
each year a few less
down by the threshing floor
well, the usurer he grinds
his hands with glee,
as he makes his way round
from door to door,
and the reaper he casts
a cold knowing eye,
as the crowd slowly thins
down by the threshing floor…
the sheaves are being gathered
and stacked against the walls,
compared by the old folk
to the ‘days of yore’,
the families they share
their heartaches and joys
as the children they play
all on the threshing floor
Folk or pop songs are not the highest form of art, yet they can inspire composers of classical stature to ennoble the melodies and themes of humble folk music to a deeper and more beautifully universal degree. I don’t find this much at all in “Country” music in comparison to the African American Spiritual….influenced and refined by the like of Czech composer Anton Dvorak.
Classical touches in a general uplifting of culture world wide that will enrich and also give a longevity that transcends cultures ….back to the peoples that are connected to each other by physical infrastructure such as international airports, high speed trains, and the fiber optic cables or more advanced means of transmission is a benefit and enrichment of all …that has never before in history been so attainable. SO, OBOR can and will also convey spiritual value, in the form of art, music, poetry and such…….. along BRI corridors of development that will be arteries of spiritual and intellectual wealth within the material arteries required for their conveyance…. world-wide ….to a degree of peace and understanding hardly ever imagined before the last few decades.
One who rides home to the Midwest on a regular old, slow, obsolete American train 1.2 or 3 thousand miles or uses the internet to pontificate about their own moral superiority, playing fast and loose with concepts and definitions of words as it suits their sanctimonious (by choice….or by sheer incapacity for intellectual rigor of any kind???) egos might better pause before disparaging the workers (Chinese “coolies” 150 years ago or so??) that laid the first or last track, the lenders that financed the roadway and the steel and the locomotives that had to be mined, forged, designed, and manufactured.
Ditto with the fiber optic cables that carry their wild conjectures to be pondered by puzzled persons any where in the world (that comprehend English) that might chance upon the nonsensical dodging of any rigor in method and therefore any real morality in practice.
Mere posturing and pretending to be good. No threat to Evil or Empire WHATSOEVER.
I am not puzzled. It is all too commonplace in today’s society of fakers and narcissists:
It is the needy, infantile ego that insists upon its own immediate gratification to the exclusion of the needs of billions of other living souls whose lives are of absolutely scarce to no concern to him….nor is any rigorous methodology in either elucidation of logical argument or definition of terms sought after nor attained….by him .because he can find no common human thread of identity therein…..in the search for the short term erotic fix that the infantile ego craves…..for ITSELF, to console, always itself and its boundless neediness that it cannot kick the habit of constantly, greedily sating as it dodges and weaves around every effort to coax consistency and rationality to be recognized or expressed by it for entire continents full of others…..clearly no nearly so needy as he! LOL.
So arise such gross strategic errors of judgment such as his witless, incompetent opposition to BRI…to billions that work far , far harder than he ever has……even enjoying one quarter of the standard of living he has…..”living off the fat of the land”…….except he is unconscious that large portions of that fat have been extracted, looted from foreign lands…..in a manner he apid just about zero heed to…..almost the entirety of his life. That makes recognizing constructive policy like BRI versus the harmful policy he did nothing about, ever…..a really vexing challenge to his ever-needy ego.
But not to worry, by sleight of hand and sophistry one can simply posture as a loving being and play act the anti-Empire role…..and presto: FEEL good about oneself. That’s all that’s real, that’s immediate, that’s crucially important for the “I am the center of the Universe” …..solipsist!
Not follow-through, not rigorous responsible method….that can be ably constructed to endure and not fall apart with the slightest breeze and change of mind or getting cold feet.
Mere MOOD MAKING for self-gratification, in other words!
That’s the source of the systematically repeated error.
However, there are, in my experience more persons from those distant lands than some of our septuagenarian and octogenarian American folk…who are open to learn more about Americans (or Anyone, Anywhere.)…..without this tiresome casting negativity upon others in other lands. Persons from China or India..or Malaysia……for example……that openly express pleasure in encountering what is common to both East and West….instead of being paranoid about the differences.
In both east and west, north and south, for example, many of the more thoughtful humans find comfort in the idea that life is a journey, whose purpose is to love and to learn from both error and success….and then….at the end of the journey…”to return….HOME.”
But this idealized home of the spirit is not on the surface of this or any other planet…and is inclusive of all humanity, not exclusive of the Other Billions of Humans that one might egoistically prefer ………be deprived of development, so one can feel oneself to be “better” or deserving of more.
Really?? Why? Make your case for a developed country for yourself being deseved, but nothing of the kind for the rest of humanity! That would be entertaining to see the logical and moral contortions that such an effort would lead to, in short order!
Anyways……Here is one of those folk songs…..that I was thinking of in regard to Variations on a Theme of Homecoming by Ioan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u81CTfbc99c
Three things I’d note:
1) The CHINESE characters beneath the English title of the song.
2) The Others sung about are already “home”…..but in what sequence? Before AND after the narrator’s passing??
3) The spiritual bliss in contrast to suffering an end of life by incarceration and violent execution:
Down the lane I walk with my sweet Mary,
Hair of gold and lips like cherries.
It’s good to touch the green, green grass of home.
Then I awake and look around me
At four grey walls that surround me,
And I realize: yes, I was only dreaming.
For there’s a guard and there’s a sad old padre.
On and on we’ll walk at daybreak.
Then again I’ll touch the green, green grass of home.
Touching that Mandarin speakers are guided to learn such a song in English!
One wonders what songs or poems there are in China of similar nature that might resonate in western hearts and minds as the above simple but appealing Country & Western song clearly resonates with at least some among them?
https://www.stalkerzone.org/the-possible-replacement-of-kurt-volker-in-ukraine/
Jeez, this guy would be just the perfect ambassador to Ukraine if true.
Arms dealer, defense consultant-the trump criminals do not even attempt to hide conflicts of interest (all, if true)
the site theduran.com is off?
who knows about this?
Been some good posts last coupla months but the “three ” who seemed to do a lot of article writing at one time …Garrie Mercouris and Christosomething seem to have split?????……
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5008885.html
Ukraine, American games and intrigue but no surprise.
Calling all poets!
Below are haiku that feel like the beginning stanzas in a sequence. Please feel free to add a stanza/haiku…
inquisitive mouse
trapped in the barley bin
no longer hungry
winter moon
above the temple ruins
the beat of black wings
your footsteps no more
stolen by luckless phantoms
the stinging sands
Jasmine, sweet jasmine, gone!
your perfume presence
breeze wafted afar
lingers yet-still
a single sprig
of mullumbumby jasmine
after all these years
mountain shrine
early morning ritual
singing conchshell
Invasion & After
Tibet Since the Chinese Invasion
Almost a half a century ago, Chinese troops invaded Tibet, bringing a sudden and violent end to Tibet’s centuries old isolation beyond the Himalayas. Tibet’s unique brand of Buddhism formed the core of Tibetan culture and society, a radical contrast to the materialist anti-religion dogma of the Chinese communists.
In the wake of the invasion, the Dalai Lama, Tibet’s spiritual and temporal leader, and nearly 100,000 Tibetans fled into exile to India. In the years after, Tibet’s remarkable culture and its inhabitants have been systematically persecuted. Alexander Solzhenitsyn described China’s rule in Tibet as “more brutal and inhuman than any other communist regime in the world.”
Despite forty years of Chinese occupation and various policies designed to assimilate or signify Tibetans and to destroy their separate national, cultural and religious identity, the Tibetan people’s determination to preserve their heritage and regain their freedom is as strong as ever. The situation has led to confrontation inside Tibet and large scale Chinese propaganda efforts internationally.
Read the rest: http://tibetoffice.org/tibet-info/invasion-after
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See also: https://freetibet.org/about/legal-status-tibet
The Genocide and Geneva Conventions: Eichmann, Lemkin, Tibet, Guatemala, and the Korean War
The Genocide and Geneva Conventions: Eichmann, Lemkin, Tibet, Guatemala, and the Korean WarThe
The Rand Corporation: How to Destroy Russia:
https://www.voltairenet.org/article206547.html
The EU’s President has a moment of honesty:
EU President Jean-Claude Juncker lashed out at “Stupid Nationalists” on the eve of the European Union elections.
“These populist, nationalists, stupid nationalists, they are in love with their own countries,” Juncker told CNN in his Brussels office.
The Chinese liberated Tibet from vicious theocratic misrule characterised by serfdom and brutal punishments. The Chinese ended serfdom, ended illiteracy, brought electricity, modern education, healthcare, housing and communications to Tibet. Life expectancy grew greatly as in the rest of China, and child mortality fell dramatically. And women were emancipated for the first time in Tibetan history.
The Dalai, a keen student of the German SS officer Harrer during his ‘seven years in Tibet’, remained in Tibet until 1959, when his CIA masters organised an uprising among tribal bandit elements, having waged terror attacks inside Tibet since 1950, and training Tibetan terrorists in Colorado, at high altitude. The Dalai has sat in exile in India, issuing his humbug homilies and performing for Western Sinophobes, ever since.
I question this whole Tibet story. Actually quite first hand or second hand. We have in our farflung family a person who studied traditional Japanese woodworking (a rigorous discipline with years of apprenticeship) and then eventually got an assignment to build holy teahouses and other holy structures in an upstate New York Tibetan community – the main community in the US. This person is no slouch in learning spiritual discipline and has respect for the spiritual discipline of others. The stories from what was seen and experienced were almost as from a fairy tale. Immediate oppression of any alternative idea with methods of punishment, a great disrespect for anything female and a rigorous sticking to the rules beyond any other value.
So, I question this whole Tibet story, what happened there before the Chinese invasion, what the quality of life really was, and still to today, I don’t get it why the Chinese invaded.
I’ve seen the man, and am truly bewildered as how to “interpret” ALL available info on him, and the history.
On a frog limp, so to speak.
http://telemarksporten.no/Tegneserier/FrogStuck.jpg
Kent
@ amarynth … “I don’t get it why the Chinese invaded.”
I researched this topic many years ago.
It is all about the massive amounts of water being available in the Tibet-Indian region.
The Chinese military looked at the scenario of the possibility of “water wars” and China needs its share of that water to survive.
China is surrounded by desperate trouble makers.
Yes, that the Han Chinese have been systematically introduced into Tibet much like how the West Bank’s Jewish settlers have been used to undermine its people and culture never seems to arouse much comment or protest among those who blow off the sufferings of the native people of Tibet. I suppose that using mass population shifts for social engineering is permissible depending the narrative one hews to i.e. that Tibet “belonged” to China all along the long line of history.
Dear friends and cafe visitors, here is an email address of mine where you can reach me if you want to buy a piece of art from me (drawings, paintings) or you want to have your own calendar (or you have your own idea of a calendar for any purpose – from which you can also gain) I encourage you to write. If you have personal thoughts to share with me and you know me for long here, I’ll be glad to be in contact with you :
p.aramis@yahoo.com
Interesting VT articles
(In my opinion, they are credible. How Minute by Minute writes: Nobody lies all the time.)
Saudi Arms Ship Stranded in Italy
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/05/20/saudi-arms-ship-stranded-in-italy/
Censored: The Secret Israeli War on America (Suppressed 4 part video)
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/05/20/censored-the-secret-israeli-war-on-america-suppressed-4-part-video/
Was that the next Palestinian president you just banned, Mr Trump?
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/05/20/was-that-the-next-palestinian-president-you-just-banned-mr-trump/
Colonel Crystal’s Parallel Universe: Alternative to the New World Order
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/05/22/colonel-crystals-parallel-universe-alternative-to-the-new-world-order/
Hi Dennis,
I am happy to have introduced you to Montaigne. Since you mentioned the massacres of Ireland and Russia, let me introduce to the “combats in the Vendee”. An old relative of mine who died some years before I was born was remembered in the family as always pestering everybody at every occasion with details of those “combats in the Vendee” which he must have heard of when he studied, but did not finish, history. Well, a month or so ago I read at Sott’s a lengthy article about those “combats” that really were a real war, or rather a religious or rather anti-religious genocide. If you want to have a look (in case you are able to get detached for some minutes from your horrible disease of solipsism which, according to Bro’s insight, should preclude it): https://www.sott.net/article/408922-The-French-genocide-that-has-been-air-brushed-from-history.
Well, Bro, whom you defended so chivalrously, seems to be a severe case, already beyond salvation. Here again he speaks the language of Andrej Vys<inskij at the Moscow Trials against the alleged supporters of Lev Davidovic< Brons<tein. It seems tragic that Bro's wife, who, for all we know about her through Bro, seems to be sovsem normal'naja, was not able to keep him from plumping into that trap, the admiration of everything with right angles and the marching in step of millions. Ironically, the OBOR idea, which Bro wants to defend against its only adversary on Earth (you, Dennis) is what Trockij was guilty of according to Dz<ugas<vili and Vys<inskij, namely the wicked conviction that "the survival of the revolution depended on the spread of communism to the advanced European economies especially Germany" (Wiki, MOW trials), or, in other words, an early variant of the OBOR idea. Now, the eternal seducer, posing as "Dennis" today, must be annihilated by Bro as today's son of Pau (Paul) Mercader, so that … what?… Trockij's will may finally be fulfilled???
By the way, the whole OBOR-China-Rottchild-$#@*{censored in my country}-conspiracy is covered in amazing detail by Benjamin Fulford whose payable ideas and predictions can be snatched for free either at http://benjaminfulfordtranslations.blogspot.com/search/label/ENGLISH (the newest post completely only after a week, but sometimes never)
or at https://benjaminfulfordtranslations.blogspot.com/ where, with ssome scrolling down, the same current (plus earlier) post/s is/are presented in several languages and often one of them with the complete text from the first day.
Enjoy!
Israel’s War Criminals In Their Own Words
Shooting unarmed Palestinian demonstrators “preserves Israeli values”
https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-war-criminals-in-their-own-words/
Precisely! As the Yesha Council of Rabbis and Torah Sages, a highly influential Talmudist group, declared in 2006, as Israel was bombing Lebanon ‘..back to the Stone Age’, under Judaic Law killing civilians is not just permissible, but is, in fact, a mitzvah or good deed. International Humanitarian Law to the contrary was contemptuously dismissed as ‘Christian morality’.
What is not discussed in the article below is the main reason why the Chinese are abandoning their iPhones:
Owning an iPhone could have a negative effect on a Chinese citizen’s social credit score.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-23/iphones-are-now-embarrassing-china-trade-war-deepens
Top of the morning to ya all in whatever cranny of the globe ye be hidin’ out in. I was in the dumpster upon awakening this coldly day; but no sooner did I walk in this here ol’ cafe, that ye began making my day. Thanks. I readed your wisdoms rapidly and want to review them more carefully later.
I took note that ms obor and mr usury were getting the attention they deserve. They’s too deep for my shallow brain, but that don’t stop my mouth from talking which I’ll do later too. Always procrastinating, me. I need to philosophize first about epistemology — how we know what little we do.
amarynth, you and I have done this dance before, if you recall. You want ‘definitions’ and I do too. But it ain’t that easy without some preliminaries about how we know what we think we do. The definitive definition way is only one way of knowin’, in my opinion (imo) which I must throw into conversation sparingly, like you do salt in yer soups, to keep in good graces with the guests, specially the payin ones.
The Way to Know takes various paths: definition, logic, description, intuition, faith, proposition, science, experience, sixth sense, metaphor, community corroboration, memory, unconscious, tradition, lucky guesses and so on — on the positive side.
On the negative path, we have ‘via negativa’, neti neti, no no, nyet nyet, hard knocks and ‘war, disease, famine and death,’ to quote the four horsemen (or to be politically correct nowadays) four horsewomen, trans, multi, etc.
In the medieval days, the scholastics debated which was greater: knowledge or love? St. Thomas said to know and St. Francis said to love. I come down on the love side, since I was a Franciscan monk and a papal paypal priest.
So there ye go, another wrinkle in the blanket. Like when yer makin’ soup, amarynth, can ye define the soup or describe the mix better? Then like the english say: the proof is in the pudding. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’d say you do mostly the latter.
I got to run to Walmart for veggies and fruit, mostly. For those of you not acquainted with us deplorable denizens in fly-over heartland counties in the US of Trump, Walmart is the beast that swallowed up the mom’s and pop’s and sells at a low price since we the poor don’t have a lot; although by the weight of some of us, I’d say we’re from off the fat farm.
Just wanted to stop in and chat for a bit before heading for the Walmart super shelves on the outskirts of Tomah Town. I live ten miles north on a cranberry farm, more properly called a ‘marsh.’ Some of you may never have heard of cranberries; but they’re supposed to be good for the kidneys; but I gotta warn ye, the ones here are fertilized and insectasized, if ya know what I mean; in other words, not organic like amaranth stew.
Love ya all. See ya later when alligator soup is served down there where sakers hang in Floriday, usa. I know me alphabet soup is stale beyond the pale of good sense. If I’m talkin funny, it’s cause I got the Walmart deplorable blues. My working days are done with me hands but my brains keep busy as a bee. I worked in the local war hospital not far from the war camp here in trumper land; used to toss down a few after work with farmers doin a second job at the VA, and now live high on me government pension; get by on 200 bucks a month, if me body cooperates by keepin healthy. Bye for now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbEstJ98TcM
“amarynth, you and I have done this dance before, if you recall. You want ‘definitions’ and I do too. But it ain’t that easy without some preliminaries about how we know what we think we do. The definitive definition way is only one way of knowin’, in my opinion (imo) which I must throw into conversation sparingly, like you do salt in yer soups, to keep in good graces with the guests, specially the payin ones. ”
No, I don’t recall.
“How we know what we think we do?” That was not the question. You’re free to say if you cannot define a method such as usury. It is not a concept really, it is a method. You use the word, but cannot define what you mean?
As for the rest, no clue what you are talking about.
Usury is basically when you borrow money from the enemy, you pay an additional % cost beyond the principle for the “privilege” of borrowing the needed money.(if you did not need the money, the borrowing would not have needed to take place).
Say you borrow from friends or family and they only want the original principle back in a timely manner, then there is no usury.
Many many times I have lent money to individuals and the individuals were to indigent to pay back the principle, so I forgave them, there was no usury. The enemy does not forgive w/o serious penalties or a service fee in addition to the high interest.
I have loans out now to the enemy, the banks, the insurance company’s, they refuse to pay for various reasons, but i will collect my fare share and interest when either the court, or the banks, exit the fulfilled contract o the world, and the mechanism to repay is once again opened for collection. This is the definition of usury, interest on money.
Pretty well nailed it. I’d add making money of other’s suffering, ‘beware those in flowing robes, for they steal the homes of widows.’
Bankruptsy; was when a bank made a bad loan, the loanee defaults and the bank went out of business, hence Bankrupt. The shisters changed the laws, protecting the banks, and today, multinational corperations (who are just to big to fail). What kinda f’n bs is that, huh?
I like the muslim version of lending, the risk is shared, the lender is reqiured to do their own due dilligence. Much more humane than the Jewish version of stealing someone’s megere wealth through trickery and deciet. Do poor, desperate people, read the fine print? It’s alway hidden there. Like giving natives beads, for their country, “sign your X here please,” fair trade, right? Now, can we please clear the temple!
Back in those days it was a proud day for both banker and home owner, once the home owner payed off the mortgage, the banker would bring over a mortgage button(A like 2″ round glass, or some material, emblem) signifying that the terms of the mortgage were met and the house was payed for.
It would then be mortised into a beam somewhere at the home owners choosing, and both walked away happy individuals. Today’s bankers and homeowners never even meet (middle men do all the leg work) and so the bond between them can easily be broken w/no hard feelings involved should a contract go bad.
Tusind stykker-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_UI2Ia57w4
Danish.
Man sir’ at over skyerne er himlen altid blå
Det kan være svært at forstå når man ikk’ kan se den
Og man sir’ at efter stormens pisken, kommer solen frem
Men det hjælper sjældent dem der er blevet våde
For når vennerne forsvinder og når livet er betrængt
Ser man alt med ganske andre øjne
Man øver sig og bliver langsomt bedre til at se
og skelne mellem sandheder og løgne
Man siger jo at det der sker er altid godt for noget
Troen har vi fået for at bruge den
Man si’r så meget, men ved så lidt når angsten den har fat
Sjælen mærker illusionen briste
For når vennerne forsvinder og når livet er betrængt
Ser man alt med ganske andre øjne
Man øver sig og bliver langsomt bedre til at se
og skelne mellem sandheder og løgne
Alting kan gå i tu
Et hjerte kan gå i tusind stykker
Kaldte du mig for ven engang
Så er jeg her nok endnu
Alting kan gå i tu
Et hjerte kan gå i tusind stykker
Kaldte du mig for ven engang
Så er jeg her nok endnu
For når vennerne forsvinder og når livet er betrængt
Ser man alt med ganske andre øjne
Man øver sig og bliver langsomt bedre til at se
og skelne mellem sandheder og løgne
Alting kan gå i tu
Et hjerte kan gå i tusind stykker
Kaldte du mig for ven engang
Så er jeg her nok endnu
Alting kan gå i tu
Et hjerte kan gå i tusind stykker
Kaldte du mig for ven engang
Så er jeg her nok endnu
Kaldte du mig for ven engang
Så er jeg her nok endnu
Kaldte du mig for ven engang
Så er jeg her nok endnu
English-
It is difficult to understand when you can’t see it And you say that after the whip of the storm, the sun comes out But it rarely helps those who have become wet For when your friends disappear and when life is treacherous Looking at everything with quite different eyes You practice and slowly become better at seeing and distinguishing between truths and lies You say that what happens is always good for something The faith we have got to use the man is saying so much, but know so little when the fear it has caught The soul feels the illusion burst For when friends disappear and when life is treacherous Looking at everything with quite different eyes You practice and become slower to see and distinguish between truths and lies Everything can go to tu A heart can go in a thousand pieces Did you call me friend once Then I’m here enough Anything can go to tu A heart can go in a thousand pieces Did you call me friend once Then I am probably enough for when friends disappear r and when life is treacherous Looking at everything with quite different eyes You practice and become slower to see and distinguish between truths and lies Everything can go in t A heart can go in a thousand Cuts Did you call me friend once Then I am here enough Anything can go to tu A heart can go in a thousand pieces Did you call me friend once Then I am probably enough If you called me friend once Then I’m probably here called you friend once Once I am here enough yet
Better Translation to english.
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/tusind-stykker-thousands-pieces.html
A Thousand Pieces
It’s said that the sky’s always blue over the clouds
It can be hard to understand when you can’t see it
And it’s said that after the storm’s raging, the sun will turn up
But it rarely helps the ones who got wet
‘Cause when your friends disappear and when life had gotten tired
You’ll see everything in a very different light
You practice and slowly get better at seeing
and distinguishing truth from lies
It’s said that everything is good for something
We’ve gotten our faith to use it
So many things are said, but so little is known when you’re in fear
Your soul feels the illusion burst
‘Cause when your friends disappear and when life had gotten tired
You’ll see everything in a very different light
You practice and slowly get better at seeing
and distinguishing truth from lies
Everything can break
A heart can break into a thousand pieces
If you used to call me your friend
Then I’m probably still here
Everything can break
A heart can break into a thousand pieces
If you used to call me your friend
Then I’m probably still here
‘Cause when your friends disappear and when life had gotten tired
You’ll see everything in a very different light
You practice and slowly get better at seeing
and distinguishing truth from lies
Everything can break
A heart can break into a thousand pieces
If you used to call me your friend
Then I’m probably still here
Everything can break
A heart can break into a thousand pieces
If you used to call me your friend
Then I’m probably still here
If you used to call me your friend
Then I’m probably still here
If you used to call me your friend
Then I’m probably still here
Kent
Catch me when I fall, will you?
Se solen i vandet
Hvor smukt kan det bli’?
Mens børnene larmer
præcis som de plejer
Går dagen i hi
Dit ansigt er ældre
det synger til mig
om alle de glæder
og sorger vi havde
Jeg ser i et spejl
Det kun livet, vi har fået
og vi måde nyde det
før det er gået
Det kun livet, vi har fået
lad os nu bruge det
bruge det til noget
før vi falder
Griber du mig, når jeg falder?
Er du hos mig, når jeg dør?
Ta’r du mig hånd, ligesom jeg har taget din i dag?
Og svarer mig tilbage, når jeg kalder?
(Griber du mig når jeg falder)
En dag skal vi miste
oh ya
det bedste vi har
Den stærkeste sandhed
når først vi er kommet
så skal vi herfra
Men nu må vi videre
der er så meget at nå
For sange skal synges
Musikken skal spilles
Hvad vej skal vi gå?
Det kun livet, vi har fået
og vi må nyde det
før det er gået
Det kun livet, vi har fået
Lad os nu bruge det
bruge det til noget
før vi faler
Griber du mig, når jeg falder?
Er du hos mig, når det sker?
Ta’r du min hånd, ligesom jeg har taget din i dag?
og svarer mig tilbage, når jeg kalder?
(Griber du mig, når jeg falder)
Hey ya
For det en kort kort tid, vi har fået her
Lad os leve stærkt nu, og lad der ske meget mer’
Lad os få hovedet op og ambitionerne med
Lad os kæmpe for det størte, til vi ligger ned
(Det en kort kort tid vi har fået her)
(Lad os leve stærkt nu, og lad der ske meget mer’)
Tag en stor bid af livet, det må aldrig få ro
Lad os dø med ære uden, at ha’ noget til go’e
Lad os glemme dem, der siger, vi ik’ kan spille det spil
For vi ka’!
(ja, vi ka’)
Det bare at sige vi vil
(Tag en stor bid af livet, det må aldrig få ro)
(Lad os dø med ære uden, at ha’ noget til go’e)
Lad os gøre alt det bedste, vi har lært os nu
Så vil vi se, at vi ka’ mere end vi troede vi ku’
Al den negative kraft, den der holder os nede
skal have kamp lige til stregen, den må ikke få fred
Før vi falder
Griber du mig, når jeg falder?
(Griber du mig, når jeg falder)
Griber du mig, når jeg falder?
Når jeg falder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngv1Z8VTAzU
Google translate.
See the sun in the water How beautiful can it be? While the kids are noiseing exactly as they usually do The day goes on Your face is older It sings to me about all the joys and sorrows we had I see in a mirror The only life we have got and we enjoy it before it’s gone It only life we’ve got let’s use it use it for something before we fall Do you grab me when i fall? Are you with me when I die? Are you getting me hand like I’ve taken your day? And answer me back when I call? (Do you grab me when I fall) One day we have to lose oh ya the best we have The strongest truth once we have come then we must from here But now we have to go there so much to reach For songs to be sung The music must be played What road should we go? The only life we have got and we must enjoy it before it has gone The only life we have got Let’s now use it to use it for something before we fall Do you grab me when I fall? Are you with me when it happens? Are you taking my hand just as I have taken your hand today? and answer me back when I call? (Do you grab me when I fall) Hey ya For a short short time we’ve got here Let’s live fast now and let’s do a lot more ‘Let’s get our heads up and the ambitions with Let’s fight for the greatest, until we lie down (It a short short time we’ve got here) (Let’s live strong now and let’s do a lot more ‘) Take a big bite of life, it must never be quiet Let’s die with honor without have something to go let’s forget those who say we can play that game For we can! (yes, we can) Just to say we will (Take a big bite of life, it must never be quiet) (Let’s die with honor without having something to go) Let’s do all the best we have learned now Then we will see that we can do more than we thought we could ‘All the negative force that keeps us down must struggle straight to the point, it must not get peace Before we fall, you grab me when I fall? (Do you grab me when I fall) Do you grab me when I fall? When I fall
” Lad Dine Hænder Vandre ”
Flydende skygger farver vores himmel
I nat, den trækker dig med sig
Den brænder sjælen inde
Men spillet bestemmer
Det smelter fra vores hænder
Flydende skygger på himlen
I nat
Kom, min skat, hæng dig fast
Lad gardinerne svæve i nat
Og månen følger med
Den lægger mig helt ned
Kom nu, min skat
Hæng dig fast i nat
La’ dine hænder
Vandre med mig
Ka’ du se
Jeg kommer?
La’ dine hænder
Vandre med mig
Ka’ du se
Jeg kommer?
Den reneste himmel, og jeg flyder med
Hvisker mit navn, når jeg skal af sted
Og jeg vil gi’ dig det hele
Og la’ alt andet stå helt stille
Den reneste himmel, og jeg flyder med
La’ dine hænder
Vandre med mig
Ka’ du se
Jeg kommer?
La’ dine hænder
Vandre med mig
Ka’ du se
Jeg kommer?
La’ dine hænder
Vandre med mig
Ka’ du se
Jeg kommer?
“Let Your Fingers Do the Walking”
There is a liquid sky all over the world
Tonight it comes for your body
It comes to set your soul alight
But cards have been dealt
From our hands they will melt
There is a liquid sky all over the world
Tonight
Step out my sweet one hang loose
Crystal cherry drapes who to choose
Where the moon rolling in
We can let our dream begin
Step out my sweet one
Step out and hang loose
All the cleared sky turns me on
You speak out my name long after I’m gone
So I give myself in and it will make me standing still
All a cleared sky turns me on
Tonight
Let your fingers
Do the walking
Can’t you see
I’m coming
Let your fingers
Do the walking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XTMwyxm5IY
Enjoy
Kent
amarynth,
Thanks for contributing to the conversation on usury. You can look up the official definitions easily enough. I concur with Alabama’s definition in reply to yours: ‘interest on money.”
I wish I had free access to the Oxford English Dictionary but I do not.
You won’t be satisfied with this ‘non-definition’, but another way is to look closely at the word. What does usury sound like? ‘use you’? The ‘ry’ is a neutral qualifier. Get the point of ‘use you’? You are being used if you engage in usury. You can be forced to pay, and if you don’t, you could be sued. You could lose your home and assets. In the old days, you might end up debtors’ prison. A good rule is: ‘is the money free or forced?’
If a loan is free as Alabama described, it is not usury. Hope that helps.
I try not to use usury. For years now I’ve refused to take interest on my checking account. When I moved here and got another bank, it was quite a tussle to get an interest free account; so unusual is the request.
Absurd, until you consider the posturing motivation. Then it becomes clear.
If interest is forced or abusive (kneecapping if you don’t pay) or a clear “debt trap” ONLY THEN is it usury.
If interest barely covers the administrative cost of the loan, it is not “using you”, it is helping you unless you do not use the funds productively, which you might very well make the mistake of doing….. if you consider it “free”.
The same goes for nations, states, counties and municipalities.
The same goes for business entities.
If you are forming a family and wish to get out of an apartment so that your small children can have some space of their own, a yard to play in and get healthy exercise ….you can either scrimp and save and start the family at age 50, paying cash for the small house….OR you can get a mortgage that you can qualify for, because you can afford its payments, and you can start your family at age 30 or 28 or earlier.
When the mortgage is 4% and the real rate of inflation is nearly that high …or higher THAT is not a usurious mortgage!
Denying credit and doing away with all but gifts (“free” loans) with absurd nominalism does far more harm than your posturing as a pure soul…….because you and your daft argument are not likely to kill all mortgages…but ending all lending or restricting it to ONLY gain for the borrower would dry almost ALL of it up…a nice “discipline” but a severe restriction on the ability of humans to employ capital saved by other to their own advantage.…… the result of such sophistry if the majority of fools in a nation or community were to fall for such silliness.
It is necessary to demonstrate consequences and alternatives (proof by construction!) not just make shit up that sounds good and feels good to your ego.
There are laws that keep much usury suppressed but much is permitted by the Powers That Shouldn’t Be to abuse nations with and loot them. It is more work to make the distinctions between credit used for good purposes such as family formation, and real development of nations …and credit designed to choke entire regions of the world…..that may finally be allowed to breathe and develop….thanks to BRI and OBOR…and your discomfiture.
Deal with it!
Yet on the flip side when 4% becomes 21%, are those citizens being treated fairly or has some mechanism been put in place to aquire funds b/c they themselves have made terrible mistakes in the past and have no where else to raise money except further tax the citizens. It always seems the tax scheme is growing while the debt is also growing, and to make it all good, the so called economy grows, and no one is the wiser b/c it was all done so slowly.
Before one knows it, the debt bomb has gone off, monetary inflation increases, the world trading your currency drops, and tariffs increase because it is the last mechanism of a country to collect money. This was all done in Germany in the 20’s, and a 100 years later ironically is repeating right here in America.
Not many in Germany in the 20’s saw it coming, and hardly no one in America today sees it coming, but the formula is brewing, bubbles are forming at the top, and like a volcano, can spill a dangerous concoction of toxic consequences which very few are able to absorb at the bottom. The further from this spill, the better off one will be, but does one know where they are? Or does one run like hell after seeing the explosion and hope they survive it?, only time will tell.
http://www.planetaryhq.com/rapeamerica.htm
Thanks Bro. I tried to explain the difference between usury and investment later on in this cafe. And debt economy or investment economy. This is a tough crowd. What is it that people do not get finance or investment or loans or how the damn stuff works? Its not difficult and I’m even the result of a failed math experiment at school. Do Priests not learn some economics – like the arithmetic part of reading and writing .. in their studies? Does nobody any longer have any ability to add stuff up or subtract it .. or understand it?
That is why there is such terrible misunderstandings about BRI and how it functions and that is why people can so easily be fooled and believe every thing they are told. Debt trap? Meh! .
“Capital” is profit from producing a good or service and selling it for more than you put into it in a competitive market. You can save this “capital”, spend it on yourself, or lend it out to someone else at an agreed upon interest. What we see operating with “official sanction” is real capital competing with fake capital created from thin air; a keystroke. Money is whatever is accepted as a representative of capital in an exchange. Gold and silver as well as other items that required effort to produce and give it “value” became money or the backing of money. “Keystroke” fractional reserve “‘money” is backed by men with guns. Another term for fiat is “mandate”. Keystroke money allows endless wars and purchase of voting blocks. Marx said that “the straightest path to socialism is democracy”. Yep, throw in Central Banking fiat money to buy votes and viola! Real capital is the best regulator of human affairs.
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Cheers, bp.
Harvest of Chaga last year (1 day).
http://telemarksporten.no/SakerPhotos/Chaga0012_resize.JPG
Kent
Congratulations, nice stash!
Chaga is a polypore with some similarity in appearance and use to Reishi/Ganoderma et al, no?
Interesting book from late 60’s, “Indian Herbalogy of North America”, by one of those “amateurs”, Alma Hutchens, who compiled much forgotten knowledge, and also had a friend who was Russian who could read Soviet herbal medicine research, which was/is voluminous. She has a great section on “Chaga”, decades ahead of modern research.
Hutchens is one in a line of herbal-writing “amateurs” going back through Gerard to the compilers of middle ages, Hildegard Von Bingen, forward through Maude Grieve and recently including M. Moore here in U.S., those “amateurs” who made more discoveries than the academics ever did.
Tons of Soviet herbals and herb surveys, 1000’s of pages, never translated into English of course, referenced in Hutchens’ book.
amarynth said:
“Dennis. The banks underlying BRI are the only banking system in world to make full provision for the Islamic system of money management. You know that there is no usury in the Islamic system.
BRI business initiatives usually are not loans, but joint initiatives underwritten by a bank.”
amarynth does not trust wiki. I don’t either fully but I don’t discount it fully either. I provided five wiki links, not two, and referred to many more. I could not find any that referred to the non-usury sharia law loans, or ‘BRI business initiatives usually are not loans, but joint initiatives underwritten by a bank.’ — says she. Can a hundred wiki articles questioning ‘debt trap’ china be all wrong? They will never go as far as I go; but I say usury itself is a ‘debt trap,’ and a ‘death’ trap for our planet. Wake up, lemmings!
Why wouldn’t banks accept such ‘initiatives’? Even if they don’t charge interest, they can use the money and charge others interest.
She does trust the saker link:
/2nd-belt-and-road-forum-an-informational/
At the top of that is a pie chart of five sections regarding bri. One is entitled: ‘trade and investment’. Investment?!
One subheading reads:
‘From the Category of Investment Projects and Project Lists:’ Investments?!
Another subheading reads:
‘From the Category of Financing Projects:’ In the body of the text it lists eleven countries with ‘loan’ agreements. Loans?!
I read the whole saker provided article. There was no mention of the kind of loans amarynth is talking about: provided by banks covering non-interest loans. Even if there are, how many are they and to what extent?
If any, they might be for virtue signaling to give the appearance of freedom.
In the article, there were mighty lofty words spoken with dream like sophistication. But nothing that could be possibly construed as opposing usury. Usury will likely end up killing our planet. Use me once; use me twice; use me thrice and it’s game over for us. Endless growth cancer on steroids; tweedle dee dum(b) obor and tweedle dee dee usury.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dguAf6GZsdM
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x377ke0
” but I say usury itself is a ‘debt trap,’ and a ‘death’ trap for our planet”
to clarify this, we have to clarify what is a bank and how does a bank function.if a bank does not use interest rates, it goes bankrupt, they don’t work for free, they also have costs to recover as any other economic sector.the bulb of the question is the percentage, any percentage which is over the costs of a work is called profit.making profit by borrowing money at a percentage which is well above the costs of a safe and secure banking work process, can be called “usury”. that’s why is important to have an idea on how a bank functions.for a bank to have money, somebody has to put money in that bank in order to be able to borrow money for others, that means a flow in and a flow out (put it simple) the interest rates have a self regulatory role in the first place, in order to have a normal, balanced and safe financial base, taking in account the money-flow in, the money-flow out and the costs of these services.
Ever come across a reference to fractional reserve?
I need to lighten up. Here’s a couple of “lovely” links I go to when I need to take some southern comfort; ah, love sweet love, befitting a Love Bower Cafe to make my day, coming onto love circle from different streets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EEFSB0zyE0&list=RDOz-APKEePzI&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYzbfn2o6B4
“Usury is basically when you borrow money from the enemy, you pay an additional % cost beyond the principle for the “privilege” of borrowing the needed money.(if you did not need the money, the borrowing would not have needed to take place).”
you say “borrow money from the enemy”,why should you do that in the first place ? borrowing money from your enemy (or enemies) should be last thing you should do, if you do that without any constraint, it is a bad decision and you should blame yourself, all the bad outcomes are laying on your shoulders.
If you do that because you are constraint or forced by certain circumstances which cannot be avoided by any other means but it serves to avoid an imminent financial blow, helping you to gain time for recovery, while you are sure that you can pay back the borrowed amount of money before the agreed time-limit arrives, without becoming broken, is also your decision and paying a percentage is part of that deal. If that helps you, that “usury” percentage appears to be good for you, helping to outcome your financial gap.
A bad loan in the same circumstances (“borrow money from your enemy”) means two things : 1. you are a bad economist who cannot figure out its own financial situation, the reality of your own capabilities to produce that amount of money (economic value) which covers the costs of the borrowed amount including the percentage without becoming bankrupt before the timeline signed in the deal expires.
2. you are forced by circumstances, being under pressure from your enemy(enemies) by financial aggression (which means, lost of your sovereignty)
Thanks Anon.
So, all the definitions of usury are more or less correct, excepting that the understanding generally is that usury is charged on top of a loan at usurious interest rates. There is a cost to money, just as there is a cost to anything even expending your personal energy.
Credit cards usually have usurious interest rates. So has stuff like payday loans I think they call them. But we live in a debt economy and debt currently makes the world go round in the Western Systems and impoverishes the already impoverished. Usury kills the little person that lives in a debt economy and uses the debt to buy things that he or she cannot afford. Sometimes it is bad situation, health or something that drops a person into debt. This is how the system works. From the big investment banks, to the little banks. This is a natural outflow of a capitalist system to sell debt. It is a sales transaction. Somebody sells, somebody buys. If people would just educate themselves as to how money works, they will not buy these loans.
There is a huge difference between debt and investment.
The IMF gives money to countries and that country is now in debt to the IMF and has to pay interest at usurious interest rates and that money goes to the fat cats to basically do with what they wish and the country is burdened with this debt. It is basically a bribe. Think of the massive debt that the US has, and think of who pays for it.
The BRI gives investment (usually joint) to projects that are good for cross border transactions and movement of goods. There is no sell or buy here, excepting a country or a group that proposes a project. To qualify for such investment, people with money already get together and make their money available for those joint projects. Massive infrastructure projects have many investors and many projects that these investments support. There is a cost to the money. Investors usually get their money back plus some, which can be called opportunity cost or investment income, based on the success of a project.
Any taxidriver does that .. uses their vehicle to invest time and move people from place to place as a cost that will re-imburse them for the usage of the vehicle, and make a little to perhaps buy another vehicle.
Investment that is well founded, is not debt. Scripturally even we have many descriptions of investment, usually around women surprisingly. She spins her wool and pays attention to her household .. and so on. There are many such scriptures. That is an investment. It is not a debt charging usurious interest rates.
Tell me, if I buy a cheap broken down house and work hard and fix it and paint it and put my labor into that, even if I take out a loan on the property, is it still an investment.
So, let’s get the difference between debt based economies, usury, interest and when interest is payable, cost of using money and investment based economies clear and center.
This does not even get to BRI proper. Its basic finance. And if anyone wants to pay the bank for keeping any money, by not accepting an interest rate that the bank has costed in already, well, you’re gifting the bank.
Btw, someone mentioned debt forgiveness. Here is a PDF which is Western Centric. Open it, and go to pages 31, 32, 33 and 34. That is a list of debt forgiveness.
This document set out to ‘prove’ the so-called debt trap. It makes good reading. Read it. Banks like the IMF are terrified of the different financial system under which BRI operates and trying their best to ‘change China’ and make them work with IMF type structures in banking. As well all know, China refuses. You will find interest in there, and the most that I’ve found, is 3.2 percent, which is basically the cost of moving money.
BRI is structurally different from a debt based economy. It is an investment based economy and there is a hell of a difference.
I forgot to link the PDF. Here it is.
https://www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/examining-debt-implications-belt-and-road-initiative-policy-perspective.pdf
I would caution you about the ability of many people(s) to repay these loans, they amount in the trillions and yes, in theory that is why one takes out a loan(either student or auto, or even a home), but the enemy lending to those people(some innocent) money, do have faith (as do the borrowers) that the money will be repayed w/interest and that in theory it will benefit both party’s.
But the lender (of last resort) is more the predator b/c they have the mechanism(s) to collect by any means possible until death do you part. And part of that part is not concerned about the quality of lifestyle you end up being able to afford, as long as the loan is paid back.
Once the loan is no longer able to be paid back, and must be written off, the lender is doublely protected by tax payer bailouts (as occurred in 08) and the ability to raise interest rates to cover the past bad loans, currently up to 50%.
We have reached a pinnacle where the rates simply cant go higher and expect the borrower to suddenly become solvent, and the 90 day default rate is at an all time high along w/ the coming debt tsunami which has reached the tune of some 1.5 trillion in student loan and close to that in w/auto’s. Crank up the cost of living w/tarriffs at 25% and health care at 10% of income, and the future is not so bright.
People start looking to tax payer bailouts on student debt, people start walking or biking, people start losing all their savings w/one small health care issue, and soon your talking real crisis. And yes, real hidden enemy’s disguised as good guys with good intentions, but privately they are predators protected by the likes of your tribes like minded thinkers who would prefer to blame the victims while creating said victims, both at the same time.
See the problem yet?
Sam linked to china’s true colors in Tibet, which is still going on. A sign of what awaits other countries along the obor trail of sorrows? Makes you see red in a different light; blood red. Israel does on a small scale to Palestinians what China is doing to Tibetans big time. Read and weep.
http://tibetoffice.org/tibet-info/invasion-after
https://freetibet.org/about/legal-status-tibet
Russia, wake up. The reds are coming for you again, and again.
https://www.voltairenet.org/article206547.html
Play it again, Sam.
Mulga and amarynth disagree. teranam seems to agree with Sam.
Ah, the joys of diverse cafe thought. Let Big Bad Bob sort it out. You’re right from your side; I’m right from mine. When you go your way and I go mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEwix-Zi0zw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s_KYywhd_8
I need to take a supper break. Nice talking to you, cafers.
No runaway allowed Dennis. The next irresponsible statement that you made, was this one:
“Most people think obor might be a good thing but there is a rising fear in investors (the ones that count; forget about the rest) that the picture is not so rosy and that the thorns are being hidden.”
So, let us see some support for the rising fear statement? who has it? who is writing about it? Where are these people stating it?. What is your statement based on?
Substantiate or support your statement please. No running away this time …
“Sam linked to china’s true colors in Tibet”
What sam posted was propaganda, cia propaganda, the sites he linked are cia disinfo sites, denis promoting that troll’s propaganda should be an eye opener of how these people work together.
Tell us where the Tibetan Gaza is, old boy. And what was the last time the Chinese bombed Lhasa or any other Tibetan city, targeting schools, temples, UN facilities etc. Or the last time Chinese sharp-shooters shot protesting Tibetans dead, on purpose. Or the last time China imposed a years long siege, including medicines, on any Tibetan city. Or refused Tibetans access to health-care, or travel outside the bounds of their internment camps. Your argument that the Chinese treat the Tibetans worse than the Israelis treat the Palestinians is pure, unadulterated, tosh.
An especially good essay from Dimitry Orlov.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51654.htm
“An especially good essay from Dimitry Orlov”
Generally, I like what the guy writes, but this one I didn’t finish. He takes the Russia meddling psywar to seriously from the the zionazi-gay portrayal of it. He didn’t consider the fact that trump & co. were fully part of this psywar scam.
They weren’t out to “git trump”, the whole point of the nonsense was to mask real problems with trump’s likud policies with a phony controversy. The goal was to set antitrumpers chasing their tails attacking total nonsense that doesn’t affect zionazi-gay policies, and to provide the trumpette dittoheads with something to rally round the trump.
Orlov apparently buys into this psywar scam in this piece, at least he was promoting it as far down I read before I quit reading. Probably one of the worst I’ve seen from him.
Furthermore, one of the trump election campaign scams was he would be more reasonable towards Russia than clinton. The reality is his likud regime is the most hostile to Russia since the raygun/bush freakshow. Actually, probably worse. The Russiagate psywar provided israel’s trump regime cover for this shift of extreme anti-Russian hostility.
If the Russiagate nonsense ends, it wont free up trump to be reasonable towards Russia, it would expose how openly hostile and aggressive these zionazi-gay likud quislings really are towards Russia.
Nevertheless, it is a very good essay.
Here’s another even better one: https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2019/05/a-hegemon-checkmated.html
hopefully not behind a paywall–but well worth a dollar. It ends with a punchline.
Ramadan Cafe. Re header photo
Sundown rush packs the cafe
waiters serve without dismay
They put the hungry crowd first
For when it is their time to eat
elixir awaits them most sweet
Of service slaking a spiritual thirst
The Panama Hat …
https://www.gentlemansgazette.com/panama-hat/
… extracted …
Panama hats have been woven in Ecuador since the early 17th century, when they were worn and traded locally. In industry grew steadily and spread in the following centuries, and by the 19th century, they were exported out of Ecuador for distribution in Europe, the Americas, and Asia. The story goes that as early as 1834, gold-rush miners that were making the trip to California via Panama bought hats there, earning them the misleading moniker “Panama” hats. Word of mouth and the continuing flow of miners through Panama sustained the term and the hat’s popularity, but the hat didn’t achieve a broad audience in the US until Theodore Roosevelt was photographed wearing a Panama hat while visiting the building site of the Panama canal. By 1944, Panama hats were Ecuador’s top export.
Ah! What a shame! The Nuland harridan denied a Russian visa.
https://www.rt.com/news/460124-victoria-nuland-denied-visa-russia/
… shucks … could have been used in a trade bargain for Maria Valeryevna Butina.
Sadly, Butina (notice that if the object rather than subject in a sentence there’s only one consonant difference between Putina (Путина) and Butina and they almost sound the same) is of low value compared to Nuland.
I don’t mean this as a human -which Nuland barely rates as, if at all- but in state value. Nuland in Russia would be extremely dangerous given her vile track record.
Butina’s only ‘crime’ is being Russian and having a name far too similar to Putin’s.
… how about Assange and Butina … and the pilot !!!
This post introduces Iranian music via Radio Javan.
Here is Jooliet’s song “mirror” … ayeneh … آینه
https://www.radiojavan.com/videos/video/jooliet-ayeneh
( lives and records in USA )
… Persian mirror work …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPcFqqSNFq0
More food as medicine, this time in music, iree, enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL42O2p1nx8
Thanks. That’s great. Damn, I forgot to buy cucumbers yesterday. I need to put them on my list.
A very hearty ‘top of the morn’ to all sakerites worldwide. I woke before dawn this fine Friday with you on my mind. Saints be praised, the dawn of the day is up now which I can view nicely through my second story east facing monastic room window. It’s starting to rain so the rosy view will soon fade away.
The first things I do upon waking is to stretch and pray in some manner; then take care of morning ablutions and make my bed. Then I light a tea candle before my tarot icons and read from my xeroxed soft copy of thelovegovernment.com and Adyashanti’s ‘The Way of Liberation.’ Then I come to our freedom cafe. After I’m done here, I’ll go down to ‘monastery kitchen’, and eat while listening to a Russian orthodox choir sing chants.
I have bri obor buzzing around my head like some pesky fly. Did I stir up some hornets’ nest by bringing up bri obor and bro usury? Seems so from the ongoing comments. That’s great for a freedom loving, free speech cafe; makes my day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML86JjEyKiA
A word to Bro, if I may. Lean your ear this way, Bro, while I whisper in yer ear: I read every word ye write. You don’t have to shout with yer capitals and bold print ’cause it jest distracts me. Know what I’m sayin’?
If I only knew which Anonymous I was talking to, I might have a word with him, her, it or bot. I could hire a language style expert to sort the Anonymii out but it would invade privacy and be too costly. At least Bro and alii give themselves a tag to id them, pseudo nym, as it is. I go by my given name because it was given to me. The Empire would find me anyway if it wanted too, despite my hiding behind a fake name.
Bro argues for the bri obor train to nowhere fast by defending usury with the same Jesuit equivocation that John Calvin used to whitewash use-you-ry. Calvin craftily and falsely distinguished ‘bad usury’ from ‘good interest.’ Then added that a ‘little’ interest is good for business, and helps the poor against those who made them poor. Confused? Good, that’s what the obor usury train is about. The fact is that usury and interest are the same.
I’m on solid ground with Jesus, the apostles, the Fathers, Islam, medieval churches, orthodox Russian church officially to this day and the Love Army and Bower. What you got other than yer nominalism, sophism and relativism? I’d say ye made a deal with Satan, that ‘ol equivocator hisself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMdLpYdiYrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S-M14rmugI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XafbkpBGRg
But oh, behold the subtle sophism arguments, if you enjoy entertainment on the sly. A ‘little’ usury is good. ‘Little’ sins are only venial. ‘Little’ lies are white lies. Cutting off a cat’s tail ‘little by little’ is humane. A ‘little’ adultery isn’t so bad. A ‘little’ pregnancy can be aborted. A ‘little’ bad apple won’t spoil the barrel. Give just a ‘little’ inch and empire won’t take a mile. Chamberlain gave a ‘little’ to Hitler for peace in our time. A ‘little’ usury can’t be bad. You get the idea of such a slippery slope idea?
There are many persons and entities that give ‘low interest’ loans, in the name of benevolence. If they were so altruistic and beneficial, why not give them free. Greed must get its due no matter how small in this small minded world.
I’m reading Montaigne. He gives numerous examples of men who did not give an inch when empire threatened them with torture and death. These men stood for principle and sometimes they were saved by that very steadfastness.
He relates one humorous episode. An emperor had conquered a duchy and was intent on burning the whole town down with all its inhabitants. But his soldiers were so impressed with the courage of the resistors that the emperor feared they would turn on him if he didn’t offer some clemency.
So he offered the town a deal. The women and children could leave the town, taking only what they could carry on their backs. He calculated that his soldiers needed women and he needed to breed more soldiers. The joke was that the women and older children came out carrying their husbands and fathers on their backs. The empire’s soldiers laughed at the scene, and gave threatening looks to the emperor if he dared renege on the deal.
I’m with the Love Army on this one. Come hell or high water, even an inch of usury is bad and is based on greed, one of the seven deadly sins. bri obor is a bit more nuanced, as is a ‘crypto bit’, but usury obor is the same old gravy train with a different name, designed to carry nominalist jesuits, relativism calvinists and railway robbers. obor is run by a new global set of ‘robber barons.’
Bro uses the nominalism ruse of supporting bri obor with bait and switch sophistry. He says the US transcontinental railway proves the obor plan works; not at all. ‘Bene distinguere, bene discere.’ One is national; the other global. One is some 3000 miles coast to coast; the other is some 50,000+ miles in all, spanning the earth. One is paid by a sovereign republic; the other is a one party top down totalitarian system that gets paid by usury from other sovereign nations.
Dress it up with silky finery words all you like, but the bri obor scam is run by the triumvirate of china, israel and the trillionaire families, with the latter ruling the former. I can’t help it if you can’t see it; you will some day, come what may.
Any way, this all has to come out in the wash. In the meantime we can agree to disagree and continue this very interesting conversation. I might address the recent sophomoric sophisms but I wonder if it’s worth it since the truism is true: ‘those persuaded against their will are of the same opinion still.’
There will come a day when we will have a ‘marriage of true minds’ here in this cafe, but it’s too early to say when. In the meantime, at nearly 80, I’m not done yet; my bell still rings. The Empire is keeping us at loggerheads for now, but the day will come when we’ll get our act together and march with the Love Army to finally stop ‘Empire’s War On Russia.’
Okay, okay let’s REALLY get a bench clearing brawl started!
Or a Donny Brook if our Irish and Irish American friends can supply the etymology…the language roots of that River of Rumble!
Aussies are also famed in their capacity for chaos with chairs and fists in their watering holes down under and out back.
Hold the lattes and Rigolettos (or whatever it is that Saker imbibes….lol) a general melee is “better than caffeine” for boosting the metabolic rate right quick, mate!
The only build that Dennis appreciates is the Feminine Form, and I am suspecting that he was deprived of a set of blocks as an toddler and went right into adolescence not knowing how to erect anything that didn’t have a “mind” of its own…..
Amarynth, on the other hand, seems to have borrowed a younger or older brother’s blocks and learned that they don’t stand up unless some rigorous construction methods and laws (like universal gravitation) are adhered to.
Another factor is that without The Passion To Learn and Build………..the blocks on the carpet or tile never attain their potential and just lie their on the floor of consciousness…….Stumbling Blocks to any cognition of ANY principles of science or rigorous cognition of Anything!
But in old age, passion with no block building experience whether in the female OR the deprived male……is just a series of disturbing Hot Flashes!
These impede cognition and do not free anyone from gross strategic errors such as Dennis is constantly prone to. Poor lad. He never got a set of blocks or else never figured out what to do with them…and quickly went to building fantasies in his mind…where no restrictive laws of nature get in the way of making up whatever nonsense suits your mood of the moment.
But I have my issues with amarynth…..and other friends (grins) so this is bound to be a three way melee…at a bare minimum!
I have endeavoured to build test case constructions in a couple of areas of inquiry that are not settled issues for me at all:
1) The Great Awakening (Q) Movement in the US ………..which is prone to much emotional prejudice and either ridiculing dismissal or joyful weeping of MAGA Salvation….(For me, the Proof of the Pudding May Only Come at The Last……(.like sex, Dennis…but in this case it’s Only ONE….and DONE…..or WON…but for Good or for Evil is not yet clear…) and that lies in the revealed reality of the cryptic
“Israel is last
Q”
code and who it disappoints and deceives and who it relieves….if ANY won!. So there is continued collection of observation….and suspension of Too Hasty Judgment.
Because Haste Makes Waste
2) And the other area of inquiry (equally unsettled, undecided) is the Internet of Money or Internet 2.0 in its deeper implications. Most don’t want to “go there” (a natural fear of the Unknown) but while amarynth and I do venture into the Unknown of the Cryptosphere without the dreaded hot flashes of fear, and the dissociated free associations that afflict Dennis, we can agree on BRI, but fight on Wright.
I just want to make some progress on these inquries without some petulant brat knocking down the first two levels of blocks before I get ONE PERCENT along in the construction of the theory and practice of either one.
Or without passion, emotion shutting down the test structures on the first base level or two.
Construction either stands …OR FAILS…and that’s the beauty of it. Something can be learned…rather than just emoted without any plans, any blueprint, any engineering studies….any RIGOROUS, provable or disprovable hypotheses…..whatsoever.
Got to break my fast and put forth some monetary anti usury block construction after running a couple of youngsters to school.
Ciao!
O, un ristretto when I return, please, waiter.
The Apartheid State is last, last for what? Please explain, why last, haven’t the Palestinians suffered enough? Perhaps a tad more before it ends? Is not the international blood shed on behalf of Zionism enough? Such are the dreams of dreamers.
No entity on this fucking planet has the fucking balls to fuck with the Apartheid Occupation of Palestine.
It will be an individual struggle between each and every single person on this planet. ‘You are either with hate, oppression, subjugation and the Talmud/Torrah genocide of Palestine, or you are with those who want to live in peace, to their own devices, without outside political intervention, or terror invasion,’ to use a Bush euphinism. That’s a coloquial “you” btw, not you personally Bro, I just don’t see anyone saving any Palestinians any time soon. Sad!
Neither are the Russians particularly worried about saving the Houthis, thermobaric MLRS in exchange for riyals are a much higher calling.
They are like every other entity in nature, Anonymouse:
The first law of nature is …Survive!
As such, since technology applied to survival of the Russian state (and the civilization some of us have come more to appreciate…………especially since the gross lack of compassion and graciousness in the behavior of the “winners” of the Cold War….made us feel ashamed.of our “leaders” ) ……is a main factor, THE strongest manifestation of Russia’s “raison d’ etre” blocking Planetary Enslavement by child-raping cannibal Luciferians, I would not weep about the Russians getting the arms sales to Saudi Arabia…instead of the MIC getting those sales instead.
You see, Anonymouse, Saudi Arabia ALSO is bound by that # 1 law of nature and will buy weapons from one or the other despite bleatings from all the pacifist snowflakes outside of Russia.
But Patience! Russia is not in favor of the extermination of Yemenis nor of Iranians……….those who the Saudi Sunni oligarchy fear the most…and is apparently wooing the Kingdom away from the Petro-dollar….and according to London Paul ...this is already a concealed but nevertheless accomplished fact.….in order to line KSA up in similar fashion for Eurasian development…as they have done with “NATO Member” (Paul says make that EX-Member) Turkey!.
Remember The Turkish downing of the Russian fighter jet in Syria?
Remember Putin warning Ergodan of the CIA -Gullen coup attempt against him very shortly thereafter??
Some people have more mastery over their emotions than others do, and in the Game of Global Chess take into account all 64 squares on the chess board……….and the state of mind and spirit of every side and every piece on every side.
Sean, my only classmate in first and second grade was a Palestinian boy named Romi.
The fellow that just did my smog test is a Palestinian immigrant from Israel whose jacket bore insignia from a paratrooper battalion of the Israeli Army.I found that out after noting that his name on the jacket included “Ahmed” in it. I correctly hypothesized that we was not Jewish! LOL.
Palestine is a long suffering square on the global chessboard and one whose better days clearly depend on the happier or more tragic outcome of the remaining 63 squares on the board.
Patience is very, very hard to bear….especially after many decades. After a century or so and the lifetimes of a generation or two…..it goes into our genes.
But the alternative is despair and suicide.
Give peace and OBOR a chance! It is better, by far than British Imperial Geopolitics, the Balfour Declaration…and everything Palestinians have suffered since 1948.
It is not guaranteed but it is possible that Israel and Saudi Arabia, which Palestine is sandwiched between will decide the same as Erdogan has (at least for the moment….LOL….short term survival parameters can shift…so nothing is locked unalterably in place…) and the need to maintain Palestinians in a perpetual stranglehold of asphyxiation …..may end sooner than we can dare hope for…if we keep up the already established momentum undercutting Empire Hegemony…….all across “the Grand Chessboard” as the swinish chess coach Halford Mackinder and his demonic acolyte Zbigniew Brezinsky imagined themselves forever controlling…. as “intellectual”…”academic”…. Ass-kissers of Empire.
I need a poetry break from the whirlwind of seriousity. The world is whirling like wind and and spinning me too. “They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind”, Hosea 8:7. I’d say that humans are about reap what they have sowed.
Some dozen years past I wrote the following poem. Its structure is 21 lines. There are ten lines on either side of the center line. The idea is that a whirlwind sucks us down and then an opposite whirlwind lifts us up. Such are the ups and downs of life.
Oh whirlwind of earth
Nearly swept me off my feet
Didn’t know if I were
Coming or going
Didn’t know the difference between
Up or down
I almost went crazy running
Back and forth
I lost my senses going
Inside out
Now I catch my balance turning
Outside in
I gain my senses coming
Forth not back
I am centered climbing
Down to up
I know the difference between
Going or coming
I know I am
Standing on my feet
Oh whirlwind of earth
————-
Dylan says it differently. “You don’t need a weatherman to tell which way the wind is blowing.” And of course, “Blowing in the Wind.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l4nVByCL44
The saker falcon phoenix firebird is going to bring a whirlwind of fire anytime now.
The Windhover
BY GERARD MANLEY HOPKINS
To Christ our Lord
I caught this morning morning’s minion, king-
dom of daylight’s dauphin, dapple-dawn-drawn Falcon, in his riding
Of the rolling level underneath him steady air, and striding
High there, how he rung upon the rein of a wimpling wing
In his ecstasy! then off, off forth on swing,
As a skate’s heel sweeps smooth on a bow-bend: the hurl and gliding
Rebuffed the big wind. My heart in hiding
Stirred for a bird, – the achieve of, the mastery of the thing!
Brute beauty and valour and act, oh, air, pride, plume, here
Buckle! AND the fire that breaks from thee then, a billion
Times told lovelier, more dangerous, O my chevalier!
No wonder of it: shéer plód makes plough down sillion
Shine, and blue-bleak embers, ah my dear,
Fall, gall themselves, and gash gold-vermilion.
No surprise here-big money backing bolton:
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/05/interests-pushing-for-hard-line-against-iran/
Not sure what the ground rules for bolton’s PAC as he as yet is not a candidate but he does have big bucks at his disposal.
Sickening warmongering psychopaths!
From the above article:
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“Overall, 28 sitting senators have received sizable contributions from John Bolton PAC during the election cycle, as have nine representatives on the House defense, foreign affairs, and homeland security subcommittees.”
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This just plain ass does not smell right. Bolton PAC gets tons of money from warmongering oligarchs and then it goes out and openly bribes congress creatures-clearly to support Bolton’s warmongering policies. Bolton himself is clearly up to his eyeballs in colluding with MEK, nitenyaahoo, the likud in general, and the zio cons in DC. The system could not be more rigged for war.
Its the best way to make a gvt profit.
Mostly Zionazi Mafiosi. Not much of a revelation. A New Purim is their dead hearts’ delight and their malevolent souls’ joy. How many dead Iranians would it take to slake their blood-lust?
Sharing Zencash Tea
Now Leary waxes poetic
And that is fine with me!
Beauty’s mild aesthetic
Crumpets, jam and tea!
Never a usurious lender
Nor ever penurious wastrel,
Deadbeat bad borrower..
Be.. not greedy nor wasteful!
Yet, simple rules’re hard to follow
In such a mad, complex world.
Hang on! Neither sink nor wallow
As your dizzy head is whirled!
Boil water, set the table,
Let the tea leaves steep.
And if you prove unable
To sail seas quite so deep
Meditate on the Liquidity,
The movement, the flow
Of currency and Lucidity
‘Bout money’ll slowly grow!
Paper easily burns, ashes!
Reichsmarks and pesos
Formerly weighty, crashes
Burns up! Too many zeroes!
Mate, Monetary Theory
May absolutely bore you
To tears. It IS so dreary!
Sip, sit still, I implore you!
Consider a bit of a revision
As you sip your cup of tea.
Glimpse a new sort of vision,
It’s not stupid, mate. You’ll see!
As I serve Lord Leary his Late Morning Tea, a word for the Nice English Lady, with whom on more things I do agree:
Craig S Wright may be a certifiable lunatic….but that has to be certified, you see. I can’t do any more with uncertified, unconstructed assertions of yours, (mere “feelings”) any more than I can with Lord Leary’s!
The blocks fall down on the ground and it’s just a mess!
Not a way to build OBOR or achieve ANY progress!
The article is long, but breaking……….two days ago Wright was granted copyright in US court of some kind to the Bitcoin White Paper (the expected denial of any relevance still reverberates around the Cryptosphere…I know, I know. And BSV shot straight up from high fifties to $117 ….now $99 within hours….and I know, I know..”price is unimportant” in the short and medium term and means almost nothing.
But the task is to figure out what the theme you raised here, with your The Internet of Money article two years ago….has to do, in depth with the global strategic situation, if it has ANY important bearing on it .(I’m pretty sure it might!…But how, in constructible detail?? How dangerous, or how good…by constructed proofs that stand more than seconds or minutes) …..so I think that despite Lord Leary’s fits of rejection based on negative word association issues he suffers from….maybe we should hear the Dr out…and then endeavor to CONSTRUCT our arguments and proofs as to how and why his pieces of argument of what Bitcoin Is…..and is either promising to our cause …OR NOT….either stand…or fall down…or as Lord Leary decided in 2 seconds…should never, ever, be considered even for ONE second.
From Craig’s personal Website which came online the day after the Whitepaper Copyright kerfuffle:
Satoshi and the Sophists
By Craig Wright | 23 May 2019 | Bitcoin & Blockchain Tech
U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louise Brandeis wrote:
“Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman.”
Bitcoin is the most efficient system, and will help us to stamp out dishonesty and fraud. I did not create Bitcoin to make another underground drug currency. E-gold and Liberty Euro (a digital currency offered on Liberty Reserve) both existed and worked well for such a misguided purpose; they do so better than any blockchain ever can. What few people understand is that any system run by an individual or a group has a head that can be targeted. If Hydra has heads that are visible, like those of Monero, they can be cut off and the individuals punished. In time, the pain gets to be enough that those seeking to breach the law and bring destruction move to different pastures.
Bitcoin introduced something new to cryptocurrency—not decentralisation, as it is merely a part of the process. The truth is, Liberty Reserve with its 30,000 or so fiat on-ramps was more decentralised than the entire blockchain-based cryptocurrency space is today. No, the significant distinction with Bitcoin lies in leaving behind an immutable evidence trail that is the blockchain. Bitcoin is designed in such a way that if you remove the evidence trail, you end up with problems as exhibited with Zcash, where you cannot determine the amount of money in circulation. More importantly, money laundering and anti-money laundering (AML) laws exist in a way that allows all on-ramps and off-ramps to be monitored. As such, the tracking of digital currency becomes simple where crime is involved.
It is all an economic system; it is possible to target crime and yet not be able to bypass or break the privacy proffered to the average individual. Where sales have been conducted that lead back to tainted bitcoin, law enforcement officials can question the holders of different coins on exchanges and other on-ramps. Blockchain is designed such that at scale, the use of a network like Tor adds enough layers of complexity and inefficiency that allow the system to be brought down.
They who seek something other than what Bitcoin was designed for will try and create alternatives alongside Bitcoin such as the Lightning Network. Such systems are ones that are designed purely to lose and destroy logs. Such a form of anonymous money is the most straightforward arrangement to stop. Where a system is already breaching money laundering rules, the government can act against parties who are running a node. With a system like Lightning, the node cannot join and leave the network at will. Unlike Bitcoin, a Lightning node needs to be connected to the network 24/7. The consequence is that such systems may as well have targets painted on them.
Non-Repudiation
Some people will try and tell you that they will find a way of creating a system that does not allow for repudiation. Such a pipe dream is called non-repudiation, but the reality is that it is a utopian dream that cannot exist in the real world. No matter what, you can always repudiate a signature. Maybe you signed under duress, maybe someone stole your key—there are more ways than are imaginable to repudiate something validly. Importantly, you cannot remove them technically; they are part of how the law works, and critically, it is a human right to be able to say that you did not sign something. The courts approach the other side of it with perjury: if you claim you did not do something, and it is demonstrated that you did, you are held accountable.
A lot of what is occurring within the cryptocurrency community is a subtle attack on law and Western culture.
Bitcoin uses a series of pseudonymous keys. A variety of derivative keys can be instituted that prove ownership of a key and all derived keys. It does not prove identity. There is no way to conclusively prove identity by means of a cryptographic method. More importantly, there should not be. An individual can enrol with a certification authority to demonstrate and assert control/ownership of a key. Such a process provides evidence but not proof.
In the future, with Bitcoin, individuals will create deterministic hierarchies of keys linked to their identity. Even so, it will only be evidence and not be proof. If a mere private key could be used as definitive proof and not merely evidence, we would implement a system far more draconian than forcing every person on earth to carry an identity card. With Bitcoin, organisations will be able to create identities and pseudo-identities that allow them to use individual services without linking. As such, identities will be firewalled isolating each set of records from other organisations.
The nature of proof is such that individuals choose how they can provide the evidence needed for a particular use case. If they need to prove something in court, they will give just enough evidence to definitively prove something in court. Where a party seeks to prove ownership of goods, they can do so without having to link more information than is required. Such is the nature of privacy. When police and law enforcement seek to investigate money laundering, they can investigate an individual and track the source of funds. People fail to see the problem with mixers: source-of-wealth laws exist. Right now, if you are found in possession of hundreds of thousands of dollars and you cannot explain the source, it can be seized. Bitcoin does not stop the seizure of assets. If you believe otherwise, you should look at the many cases that have already occurred. Hundreds of criminals have already had Bitcoin confiscated.
Decentralisation
It is not decentralised nodes that make Bitcoin powerful. It is decentralised power. In Bitcoin, such an end is achieved as the protocol is set in stone. If a miner seeks to alter the protocol, they need to make all users update their node software. And Simplified Payment Verification (SPV) allows users to ensure that miners do not deviate. If a miner deviates by, for instance, adding a new opcode, the SPV node will consider it invalid. As a result, even if the miner achieves well over 50% of the network control by hash power, the miner will not control the network without convincing the users of the network to move to the new protocol.
The reality is that a small group of individuals behind something like ‘CoreCoin’ (BTC) or Ethereum (ETH) do control the protocol and can force users to upgrade. They are systems acting as doppelgängers that are not Bitcoin. Effectively, they are subverting the use of open-source structures and voting systems to hide the acts of the leadership. They are falsely engaged in obfuscating legal responsibility and hiding behind a false pretence of distributed power. The truth is, Bitcoin is only distributed and only removes power when the system cannot be changed. The ability to change the system, to add new opcodes, to in any way alter the protocol… that is the power structure within Bitcoin and for that matter any blockchain.
They who are in charge of the various alternative currencies including the sham versions of Bitcoin (BTC) seek to deflect the fact that they control the respective system. They seek to say that miners control protocol, and yet fail to say that they, in fact, alter the protocol using rhetorical flourishes such as calling a poison-pill change designed as a soft fork that leaves prior versions incompatible a choice. Here, changes to the network can be implemented without voting or notification.
A small group which controls the protocol makes decisions that impact all users of the system. When things work, and the community using the system does not see the problems of altering the protocol willy-nilly, the leadership takes ownership, but at the same time, it deflects all bad decisions or errors by saying it is a distributed system.
For Bitcoin to be successful, the protocol needs to be stable. New versions of software can be developed and created while not changing the underlying protocol. TCP/IP has hardly changed at the protocol level in the last 20 years, and yet, it has changed remarkably and gained a lot through more effective software implementations. For Bitcoin to work, the protocol needs to be fixed and set in stone. A protocol that is set in stone signals to developers and businesses that they can invest for the long term.
The sophistic rhetoric will tell you that Bitcoin is designed to make a censorship-resistant currency, and yet the very people making the argument have the power to invalidate transactions. The same people have the power to alter the protocol and make specific software implementations invalid and to drive people out of the industry. With a stable protocol, one that is set in stone as a requirement as I indicated nearly a decade ago, nobody can choose who can and cannot build on Bitcoin.
All the major social platforms, Twitter, Facebook, and even Google, have been infiltrated by social justice warriors seeking to destroy meritocracy and bring banality to the world. They call it diversification. The truth is that it is racist, homophobic, sexist, and every other -ism that one could consider to be distasteful. The growth path of Twitter has ended, and the user base is slowly declining. The reason for it is that you cannot serve two masters. Organisations can seek to be the best at what they are and what they seek to deliver, or they can lose to the market and capitalism. Just as socialism failed because it could not measure the value of what people sought in society, many organisations are now finding that they will not be able to survive the infiltration of mediocrity.
The Metanet Changes Business
Platforms such as YouTube and Twitter that have been heavily infiltrated by the mediocre who seek to justify their position using the conventional methods of the social justice warrior and associated socialist manipulate their positions using fear and threats of censorship. Where the same means do not work, they inundate communities with trolls and force others to abandon them. When you block such people, they cry foul saying that they have been censored.
The reality is that they enter into your property, your personal space, and then, when you remove them or seek to do so, they call loudly for their armies of mediocre associates. They do not build; they do not create; they destroy the work of others, and seek to stop you from creating. They do so as everything you build makes them seem more inferior. Every time you create something new, it shows them how much they have not done. So they come into your space, your property, and they invade it driving your friends and allies out as they do so.
The analogy would be to have an uninvited guest turn up to a dinner party and start complaining about everything, start calling out all you do and say to be wrong, and then start screaming at the top of his lungs that he is being oppressed and censored because you will not listen to him in your own home.
But, we can take away their power. With the Metanet, individuals and groups will be able to create a place to communicate where they can exclude others to be safe from abuse. Doing so is not censorship; it is the right to free speech. You do not have the right to invade someone else’s privacy, and you do not have the right to demand an audience. We will be able to exclude such people, and allow others who want to discuss issues, talk, and communicate in a manner that does not allow trolls to take over communities. Importantly, it will allow for the creation of spaces that are legal and open.
It will equally be possible to stop people who seek to falsely spread lies and rumours. People will be accountable for their actions and their words.
Free speech does not include anonymous insults. It does not include defamation. You have the right for an opinion, but not to make things up without evidence. Right now, the ability to create fake news and to promote lies exists because people cannot be held accountable in the world of anonymous trolls. In the future, trackable micropayments will allow access to everyone while also holding people accountable. People will be able to create communities in a way they choose. If a community chooses to be pseudonymous and does not verify the identities of the members within it, they will be able to do so. But equally, if a group of people wishes only to be able to exclude users who attacked its members or do not hold a view that is aligned with the members of the group, such a group can also be created.
Government
The coin is far from being anarchist. It does not stop government; it holds it to account. The ability to track and trace money, to limit and report on corruption and illegal foreign dealings alters the very nature of government. In being able to account for expenditure and report instantly the results from government departments as they disseminate funds, Bitcoin radically alters the nature of representative government. In the future, citizens on welfare can be limited in what they can purchase. We could limit the tax paid for rent and food and ensure that people offer to educate their children, and if they do not, then they would be limited in what they can use welfare money for.
Bitcoin does not stop government; it gives them who form the productive aspects of society oversight over where their money goes. If people do not apply for jobs, they could have their welfare cheques invalidated automatically. Businesses would be able to accept welfare cheques as payment for healthy food and simultaneously not be able to take such cheques for luxury goods such as alcohol or desserts and lollies. It puts control into such environments.
Bonds and capital-raising methods that are used within the government could be monitored and traced. In a representative society, it would allow the people involved in the system to choose how the money they submit is spent. In the future, smart contracts will allow for conditional payments from many aspects of society. Smart contracts and lighthouse agreements will replace many of the existing boondoggle projects that people say cannot be funded otherwise. The commons will be controlled and owned, and such members of the district will be able to gain the benefits that come from maintaining a system well, and they will be able to hold them who abuse the system to account.
What Others Project…
By being able to control the narrative and invade personal property in the digital online world, people who have no right to engage with us can shut down discussions. As such, the vocal minority sets an agenda that the rest of society would not want. They project what they fear, and they can call out their problems. We hear cries of fraud, and yet it is generally them who seek to promote a system where fraud is easy. In the future, Bitcoin will enable a single set of books for all organisations and governments—something that has never occurred in our world.
People seek to promote the lies that they have created as they see short-term profit. They want to promote illicit dark websites and make money by allowing the laundering of money. They seek to pump and promote scams that enable effortless value to be created out of thin air, but it is worth nothing but thin air. As we build Bitcoin and the Metanet, we will start to see a new world evolve. A world of truth in the world of privacy.
It is the world I seek to bring into existence, one built on time-tested values. A world of inclusion based on merit.
When people try to tell you that Bitcoin was designed to be decentralised, ask what they mean. Have them explain and set definitions for the terms they seek to use. If they are saying it is about the decentralisation of power, then the only way it can occur in any blockchain is for the protocol to be stable. Ask them how protocol changes are conducted, who acts as the gatekeeper, and who has the veto. Without looking into the matter, and without defining the terminology used, we end up in a Humpty Dumpty world where people seek to set the meaning of words in a fluid and nebulous way. Bitcoin is set in stone, and it is the only way to allow it to grow and for businesses to accept it, and importantly, it is the only way to have a system based on a meritocracy develop around Bitcoin.
If people tell you that they want an equal world, ask them what they mean by equal. Do they mean equal treatment under the law? Alternatively, do they mean equal outcomes? If they are seeking equal outcomes, ask them why one person should work harder for others who seek to be lazy. Ask why they who sacrifice, they who spend decades in university studying things that offer productive development and growth should pay for individuals who sit at home or even ones who study neoliberal arts and then expect to be handed the world on a platter. Bitcoin is a meritocracy. They who would rather debate and complain instead of risk and act will tell you otherwise, but doing so is all they will do as it is all they can do.
Through Bitcoin, I see a world where various systems compete. I see the individual, the local, state, and government all competing globally. And unlike our current system where GDP provides a false metric treating crime and destruction equally to the development of food and health services, we will have a system that measures desired outcomes. Bitcoin will do away with systems that treat the creation of artificial assets equally to the creation of marketable goods. In countries such as Iceland in 2008, banks used fraudulent tricks to create capital out of nowhere. Alice would value her cat at $1 billion and sell it to Bob who would trade his dog that he valued with a capital value of $1 billion, and they would be held on loan between the two parties. The result was the creation of $4 billion worth of artificial capital. The same still goes on today, and worse, it is the foundation for schemes like Tether, ICOs, and the bucket shops people call exchanges. All of them will end.
Such is my vision. Such is the Satoshi Vision.”
Lunch time!
Sayonara!
Bro, just for info, Craig’s little stunt and press-release to ownership has already backfired. (We don’t recognize guys that declare themselves President on the corner of some street and we don’t recognize ownership because some guy said so .. he stamped his feet and said so!)
US Copyright Office Says It Does Not ‘Recognize’ Craig Wright as Satoshi
https://www.coindesk.com/us-copyright-office-says-it-does-not-recognize-craig-wright-as-satoshi
As for the rest, sure let’s compete. If you want to pay to use Craig’s non-existent metanet, (in very small micro-increments) be my guest hahahaaaa….
Who knows, it could be that in a 100 years time the internet will run on Bitcoin – Internet of Money indeed. Gotto wait for those pesky Chinese to say their say about this. Whaaat … no Chinese technology partners running to have their share in this? and .. aaah, non-existent metanet. Vaporware we call it in the industry and if you know how many people are working on internet technologies, this is but a flea in the *** of the elephant. But sure, possibilities work like that .. I agree .. that flea could grow up to be an elephant.
Price – SV is now breaking the pattern of the board and is the first red number on the board. By now we all recognize creating a price pump when you declare your press release by same guy who declared himself owner – it does not make it real.
But sure, let’s compete. I’ll laugh until I fall over and you can win ..
(all said in good spirits).
Might consider translating this. But why should I?
Tell me please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBk1KpaL02I
Kent
As well as this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3le-DuyE-wU
Kent
Did this, same artist. With translation, way back. No repeat, sorry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYCM_BxYfJA&list=RD3le-DuyE-wU&index=23
I’m out. Sorry.
Kent
On a lark I clicked on:
Assange End Game & Russian Gold Coin Crypto To Challenge Petro Dollar
Just to see if Crypto-Lark (someone commenter says he’s a KIwi….but I detect no accent) has content that will convince any doubters that the Cryptoverse is indeed “political” (not just apolitical, anarchos).
https://youtu.be/pNxglv7aYQg
Make of it what you will, as I have only reviewed the first few minutes. Good intentions, perhaps, but a few errors as well….but not fatal ones, so far.
Here’s an enjoyable conversation.
There are some interesting thoughts regarding Balfour starting at around 44:53.
AAIE (“Anglo-American Israeli Empire”). The interview is just over 1 1/2 hour long.
DR. T.P. WILKINSON, PHILOSOPHER-POET EXTRAORDINAIRE, ON CHINA RISING RADIO SINOLAND 190513
https://chinarising.puntopress.com/2019/05/13/dr-t-p-wilkinson-philosopher-poet-extraordinaire-on-china-rising-radio-sinoland-190513/
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Terrorists in the Idlib de-escalation zone are preparing up to four vehicles filled with explosives to help them break through Syrian army defensive positions, the commander of the Russian centre for Syrian reconciliation said on Friday.
According to Maj. Gen. Viktor Kupchishin, more than 800 militants, at least seven tanks, three infantry fighting vehicles and 15 pickup trucks with heavy machine guns have already arrived in the southwest of the Idlib de-escalation zone. Illegal armed groups are bringing in reinforcements, weapons and military equipment to the town of Kafr Nabudah in Hama province.
“We have received information that the leaders of these terrorist groups have ordered to prepare up to four vehicles filled with explosives and driven by suicide bombers, in order to break through the Syrian army defenses,” Kupchishin said at a daily briefing.”
Seems to be getting really sizeable attacks these last few days…if only something could be done more to stop replenishment of supplies-wherever they seem to to continually arrive from any info?- and equipment and target before they attack unless waiing for them to fire first to get proof and enable targeting info ….hope IDF not take action joining in….remember USA said would do something if suspect chemical attack…could be all building up to a last ditch big attempt?????
Words are being spread,
But how far and wide,
are they being read.
https://washingtonsblog.com/2019/05/suppressed-opcw-finding-war-crime-likely-perpetrated-by-u-s-against-syria-on-14-april-2018.html
https://washingtonsblog.com/2019/05/the-terrorists-among-us-1.html
Further Grist For The Crypto-Conspiracy Mill
email to associate, name removed:
Business Mate:
1) Is it a coincidence that Julian Assange and Craig Wright are rumored to have attended the same high school in Australia, at the same time, and in the same class (year of graduation) and were both early whizzes in coding theory and cryptography? That would certainly be way up there on the wild coincidences scale if the rumor is true. I don’t know. But I do know that this can be proven or disproven with relative ease, BTW. So I would not discount the importance of that little coincidence…..keep it on file!
2) Is it a coincidence that Craig Mason’s Reasonable Conversation Channel was chosen by Craig S Wright to announce in August of 2018 his coming effort to roll back the Bitcoin Cash protocol to the Original (Satoshi Nakamoto unveiled) Bitcoin White Paper protocol from 2008-2009 with or without other power players in BCH?? He had to do it without many of the others, thus the November 2018 BCH “fork” into BCH -ABC and Bitcoin Satoshi Vision (BSV).
Whether REAL Bitcoin or Q are good or evil in ultimate effect, it is clear to me that neither is of zero importance or relevance. AND Craig Mason’s Reasonable Conversation Channel is the main link between the two subjects…that I am aware of, at least. There may be other similar direct links that I am not aware of…naturally. But be aware (beware???….lol) of this connection. And keep it on file!
3) if YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS about the above, please watch the last 90 seconds or so of today’s Craig Mason’s Reasonable Conversation Channel right here:
The Slow & Painful Downfall of Insanity Worshipers: Declassification, Treason, The Beginning
https://youtu.be/Y4828nYqoQI?t=1093
wherein he announces that tomorrow morning’s show will contain both updates on Declass Counterstroke against the Deep State AND what he jokes are “amazing coincidences” with new developments in the “World of Bitcoin” which, true or false, real or surreal, I have tried to be aware of…… sensing that , in fact there are almost NO coincidences, and everything that is not completely trivial IS related…almost HAS to be!……and it may be very important to discover just HOW such things are related.
I will be in the middle of my Tai Chi when Craig has his show tomorrow, but you could catch it live (9:30 am Pacific Time)…which could be really COOL! Maybe even historic……
You NEVER know! Everything. No one does, no one can. But it sure is fun trying!
Once again i’ll reiterate, true lovers know all there is to know.
In the butchers satanic universal language(s), there are many things one does not need to know, and therefore, should not know. And for their own known good. B/C how many times does one need to cry wolf only to hear the deafening sound of silence.
Alabama your remarks seem dissociated from any theme commented upon by me, and I am suspecting that that is a recurring conscious or unconscious trolling technique..
“True Lovers” unexplained in definable features seems to me to be merely a new Age sort of Dennis Leary Style Deflection from ANY relevant topic, to attempt to throw off any sort of increase in cognition or investigation into any sort of leveraged political momentum or understanding of any possibly new and advantageous flank against the Empire and any threats to organize the scrambled brains of its agents, dupes and victims into stop being such pitiful minions.
I don’t oppose either Love or Making Love, but please explain how either by themselves in your mind, can be guaranteed to do the job.
So far, you have fallen short, in your cryptic comments, from constructing any case, demonstrating any causality or course of action recommended, other than, evidently, lovemaking.
Which occurs during wars, famines and natural disasters, without by itself having much effect on any of those, I might add.
Explain more fully what you mean, if you please.
If you just employ over and over and over again the nominalism of “True Lovers” I honestly don’t think you are doing or ever could do a damned bit of good, other than pleasing yourself with a warm and fuzzy mood in your own head.
Ultra-rare discovery reveals how ancient Celtic warriors fought – 2,400 years ago
… extracted …
Bark is more resilient than metal or wood – so sword blows (and arrows) tend to fully or partially rebound off them.
In the case of the blows which caused the blade impact marks on the Leicestershire shield, the blade had quite literally bounced off and back onto the surface, thus producing parallel five centimetre long repeat impact marks, just a few millimetres apart.
It demonstrates the almost rubber-like deflective nature of the shield’s bark composition.
But to make the bark behave in that extremely effective way, the shield’s Iron Age makers had to employ some very sophisticated manufacturing techniques, researchers have discovered.
First, they had dried the bark in such a way as to give it an inbuilt rubber-like weapon-deflecting “bounce” capacity.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/techandscience/ultra-rare-discovery-reveals-how-ancient-celtic-warriors-fought-%e2%80%93-2400-years-ago/ar-AABRWIz?ocid=mailsignout
Attention, Italian friends of Russia!
Remember Mifsud, the Deep State false “Russian Agent” plant deployed to take out Trump?
According to a prominent and powerful Italian figure, Giulio Occhionero, he is really BOTH an Italian and a British agent…but more Italian than British in the Blame Russia Game.
Occhionero communication to Neon Revolt:
Hi Neon,
I am back. I will try to keep things as short as possible but you can always come back with questions; while we are getting new evidences out, by the hour.
So, concerning SpyGate, we have many reasons to think it all began by a request of Clinton and her friends to an obviously friendly government: Renzi’s government in 2015. That government would later be replaced by Gentiloni, but he is still from Partito Democratico and a Clinton’s ally. The idea was to set up a predicate that could link Trump to the Clinton’s stolen emails and potentially involve Russians, so as to be a serious treason/conspiracy allegation that could force Trump out of office.
Obviously Renzi had no idea whatsoever how to build a cyber predicate against Trump nor he really understood any intelligence dynamics. That’s why he contacted the one real boogeyman of Italian intelligence: Gianni De Gennaro. De Gennaro is former Chief of Polizia di Stato, then Head of Dipartimento Informazioni e Sicurezza (our DNI) and now Chairman of Italian weapons conglomerate Leonardo/Finmeccanica. He is also Chair at Centro Studi Americani, a think-tank of the US Embassy in Rome where intelligence, politics, cyber, magistrates and professionals meet. I was on the board of it back in the Sembler (Bush Jr) Ambassador era, and I was one of those who avoided too much steering to the left.
De Gennaro is also an FBI Medal of Honor, awarded by guess who? Director Robert S. Mueller. Does that begin to ring any bells about picking precisely Mueller?
Much, much more that I barely have time to digest before bed, but Neon manages to dig up some pretty hot leads…and is learning and teaching a lot (with some errors, I think…but mostly on the right track…):
https://www.neonrevolt.com/2019/05/24/operation-charlemagne-the-silent-ones-and-eyepyramid-italys-role-in-framing-trump-spygate-qanon-greatawakening-neonrevolt/
Who ARE “The Silent Ones” referenced by Q very early on in only ONE of his first drops and then referred to in a tweet from Giulio Occhionero to Donald Trump just days ago:
“President @ real Donald Trump simply states, “It was TREASON!” President, with all due respect, look deeper into the club of “The Silent Ones”.
And Neon had to know who they were, remembering that very very early Q drop
But no need to follow up on ANY of this, right Alabama?? It’s The True Lovers In Italy Café!
Hit it, Dino!
https://youtu.be/tujMw1NeB-w
That’s Amore
When the moon hits your eye
Like a big pizza pie, that’s amore
When the world seems to shine
Like you’ve had too much wine, that’s amore
Bells will ring ting-a-ling-a-ling
Ting-a-ling-a-ling and you’ll sing, “Vita bella”
Hearts will play tippy-tippy-tay
Tippy-tippy-tay like a gay tarantella (You lucky fella!)
When the stars make you drool
Just like a pasta e fazul, that’s amore
The mood itsa good, so letsa get nude…..that’s TRUE Amore!
( Alla you gonna needa, you lucky fella!)
Dean Martin – That’s Amore (HD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFSv-tq5GAY
Perfetto, Paolo!
Stupidita, l’obiettivo dell’ oligarchia attraverso la banalita di intrattenimento popolare!
Vogliono di essere otto miliardi sciocchi come Jerry Lewis e Dean Martin e milione altro membri del pubblico Americano per servirre meglio l’Imperio senza pensare!
Quanto è bello, come perfetto!
Perfect, Paolo!
Stupidity, the goal of the oligarchy through the banality of popular entertainment!
Wants to be eight billion fools like Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin, and a million other members of the American public for servirre better the Empire without any thinking!
How beautiful, how perfect! from translate.yandex.com … mod
AI brings Mona Lisa to life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2uZF-5F1wI
A man explains very clearly why and how the USA is attacking the Chinese Huawei company:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfxfdHJ3k9Y
… music break …
Pata Pata – The Muses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6jdLRCk_G0
Чардаш (степ) – фрагмент шоу “Dance Voyage”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTBjy5OdvYo