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American slavery was a problem realised by the framers of the Constitution, a British Empire’s system problem dumped into the hands of American independance.
The Islamic slave trade, the historic Khazarian slave trade with Rothschild is a modern equivalent, and the British empire slavetrade was that of the British Rothschild syndicate extended to America. Rothschild who actually claimed to run the British empire during the weak reign of King George the 3rd who engaged his son who later became King George IV as a regent since 1810 until King George III’s death in 1820 .
This was the time (1815) that N. M. Rothschild took control of Bank of England following the Napolean defeat at Waterloo using the deception that UK had lost the battle, the stocks plummeted including those of Bank of England which was loudly sold by Rothschild initially due to the “defeat”. Rothschild secretly during the entire scam bought the stocks and gained control of Bank of England, a bank system that was to become their money machine, the national banking system, issuing the money for the government as a loan with interest. The Federal Reserve system in the USA had a 24 % interest initially also creating a constant inflation and systems for heavy taxation of the people.
King George IV was easily corruptable by the Rothschilds.
The slave problem in a free America was handled by Thomas Jefferson Note on Slavery. As a result of the historic time in which they lived the speech ise racist discrimination in modern terms, but the framers like Jefferson wanted the slaves freed .
The Declaration of Independence. Drafted by Jefferson.
Jefferson suggested a return to Africa for African slaves, and support by the US government for their sustenaince. So there is proof that the framers wanted to live up to the freedom ideals for all, all men are created equal which is part of the text of the Declaration of Independence.
Jefferson draft of the Declaration of Independence: (Excerpts)
http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/documents/1776-1785/jeffersons-draft-of-the-declaration-of-independence.php
Frank is a fan of Jefferson and Jackson…….. and has read the same books (probably) that you and others have read on Hamilton, John. So, it’s going to take a little work, to undo 200+ years of oligarchic slander and patriotic confusion.
So, there’s no rush ……for the second course of my buddy’s food for thought!
It can be served on the 9th….allowing time for ruffled feathers of Old Virginny…..to settle back to normal levels of agitation, anger management……and general angst.
Tonight I’m watching Frank do his thing in his MOFA T-Shirt….with Dave of X 22 as his guest for the first time in 4 months.
Make Orwell Fiction Again…..the MOFA Shirt…….gotta get one them! LOL.
https://youtu.be/lF8jxFS__jM?t=1050
If you have never enjoyed Quite Frankly…….tonight’s was special….and I cue it up, coming out of the intermission…with its energizing video flashes of the Signs of Our Times…and getting ready to dial up Dave…….pared down timewise…… for a family member who MAY be coming around to some sort of wakefulness……after Voting Bush League 4 Goddamned Times In A Row………..ignoring my warnings from 1988 on……until maybe ….MAYBE (???) this year.
Never say “never”.
If you like, use it on your toughest cases.
Because……..It’s Now Or Never! (song break)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTZ66l8aRlY Elvis – It’s Now Or Never (O Sole Mio….for Frank)
After 32 years of foreplay……History Can No Longer Wait……or tolerate any more petting, fretting and forgetting to get down…… to getting on…… with what has to be done!
NOW
Nice talkshow quite frankly. Thanks.
I watch and listen to Frank every night. I go full screen mostly as the comments can be silly and distracting. Although, you will occasionally see my name and comments when appropriate.
Frank is well read for a young man and has great flow and the needed diplomacy for handling guests and call-in alike.
I’m sorry if I hurt someone’s feelings but this song is still part of my beloved musical collections, among many others :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GztxvlQglSc yellow rose of texas
We need to remember the songs ioan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg2DcZjG7fw
…and never forget, as we are our ancestors. Blessings to you both.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrQ7U6dwOEs
A grand old tune from a cornerstone of the former Republic…
J4T,
I don’t remember the source right now but I recall reading that in 1688 William Of Orange crossed the Channel with a force funded by the House of Rothschild and took the throne without much resistance. In 1694 they chartered the Bank of England. In June of 17′ I and my wife were in Amsterdam and toured the Windmills as we started up the Rhine. A guide spoke of William of Orange embarking from that area. I didn’t realize that it was another century before the Rothschilds took control of the BOE.
Steve
Slaves were a necessary evil in the south before electricity. There is work down here that no northerner could do w/o getting heat exhaustion. And some slaves were able to bear the heat from deep ancestry.
I personally know Germans, Finnish, Swedish, British folks who at the time, in Col. Gaddafi’s time working for German Oil Co. Wintershall. They were technicians in the Sahara Desert. Perhaps The Hotest Desert In The World !!.
There are no bounds when it comes to White Man’s greed, that’s for sure. Just ask billions of the world’s people who unlucky to have something they crave-want.
But hey, those days are coming to a quick end, thanks to the Chinese.
Good days coming ahead.
North African slave trade. White Europeans and later European and American settlers engaged said Arabs for captives.
I really wouldn’t really call it an Islamic Slave trade. In fact, when North African Arab Muslims conquered Iberia ( Portugal, Spain ) and a bit of southern France, never engaged in any form of slavery. Goths raiding from the north did, frequently.
About 850 years of Islamic rule in Iberia turned it into the culturally, scientific, philosophical, law and order center of the world.
As a matter of fact, the Caliph Abdul Rahman had a Prime Minister who was Jewish, and his voyages to the Kingdom of Khazaria. In fact, the Prime Minister was very excited at first hearingaboutthe Khazars, and the fact there was a ‘ Jewish ‘ Kingdom. But upon his journeys there, was highly disappointed in their sheer, naked brutality with their Slavic neighbors, among other people’s, like the Bulghars, etc.
The Prime Minister wrote of a savage people of ritual human sacrifice, phallus and many other idol worship, terrible hygiene practices, constant raiding of their neighbors. In essence, despite Islamic armies sent by the other, and principle Caliph, in Damascus, who was engaged in a long running conflict with the war mongering, blood lusting Khazars.
Not until the Muslim Mongol Golden Herd led by Khan Benke came smashing through and sweeping the Khazaria Kingdom to the wind.
Only then did the Eastern Orthodox Slavs mainly, see peace. As the Khan allowed the Slav Princes to rule over their people’s. These Princes were known as the Muscovites. Hence, Moscow was most likely named after them.
The Muslim Mongol Golden Horde, once they embrassed Islam enmass, never acted like an occupation force, nor took slaves. The had transformed into benevolent folks.
Prophet Muhammad, among the many righteous acts he committed, was to buy slaves at the slave market and then release them very soon after, when it was safe. In fact, one could say that the majority of early Muslims were freed slave, who were told they could just up and leave, that they owed no obligation whatsoever. But they stayed, and we’re ultimately some of the famous and blessed freed slaves, the African black man. Bilal. He was the first Muslim in history to recite The Call of Prayer out loud, from atop a Mosque. And Bilal would go on to be one ofthe Prophets closest companions.
Salaam.
One can of course see things differently according from where one stands. It is hardly deniable that there is a system of slavery embedded in the very religious scriptures, law, practices and customs of Islam, a totallity of which were also collected and written, laws streamlined thereto, after the prophet’s death, quickly becoming a religion of the sheikhs lead by caliphs that gathered the benefits thereof, and thereafter establishing expanding caliphates by means of conquest by military followed by the very religious laws which established slavery by conquest only adverted by becoming a muslim. Muslim means bowing down to Islam for the people thus conquered. The law also then teach that it is impossible to revert from this bowing down to Islam. So it is a very clever system of slavery by design. And on the other hand from the stand of rulers and occupiers, it is a perfect system. Then one can see it from a stand of perfect religion, so that all that is justified for the perfect religion. Then there will arise the question of what is the perfect religion, and from who was it taught.
It was very interesting to hear about the historic visit to Khazaria. That was very much what I imagined the Khazarians to be. Jews that were taught by the Rabbis of Mesopotamia. The prophet Muhammed was also taught by Rabbis as one can see in the Ibn Ishaq, Biography of prophet Modammed which was written while everything was still clear and available, about 100 years following the prophet’s death. Rabbis were all well versed in the scriptures of the Book and the Babylonian Talmud. So it was all transmitted to prophet Muhammed orally and scriptually. The same system as the jewish persist in Islam. I personally can see that a system of the Sanhedrin (Sharia government) of law and government is the perfected system of the rulers, creating this perfect system is of course ideal only from ideas of government and supremacy they inherit for themselves. Other people remain inferior. As having inferior rights. High taxes. No say in affairs. Free people. The perfect system indeed. “They are non-believers. They are dogs”. (quote, the Quran). The Quran is a collection of scriptures, one must consider everything, not only pick cherries.
bored muslim. I will try to answer some of your views which appear in blockquotes from your post.
” comparatively little attention has been given to the prolific slave trade that was carried out by pirates, or corsairs, along the Barbary coast (as it was called by Europeans at the time), in what is now Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya, beginning around 1600 AD.
Anyone travelling in the Mediterranean at the time faced the real prospect of being captured by the Corsairs and taken to Barbary Coast cities and being sold as slaves.
However, not content with attacking ships and sailors, the corsairs also sometimes raided coastal settlements in Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, England, Ireland, and even as far away as the Netherlands and Iceland. They landed on unguarded beaches, and crept up on villages in the dark to capture their victims. Almost all the inhabitants of the village of Baltimore, in Ireland, were taken in this way in 1631. As a result of this threat, numerous coastal towns in the Mediterranean were almost completely abandoned by their inhabitants until the 19 th century. ” https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-africa/white-slaves-barbary-002171
In reality that is 300 years of intense slave trade.
Some historians estimate that between A.D. 650 and 1900, 10 million to 20 million people were enslaved by Arab slave traders. Others believe over 20 million enslaved Africans alone had been delivered through the trans-Saharan route alone to the Islamic world. Dr. John Alembellah Azumah estimates in his 2001 book “The Legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa” that over 80 million more Black people died over that route.
https://atlantablackstar.com/2014/06/02/10-facts-about-the-arab-enslavement-of-black-people-not-taught-in-schools/
The legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa. There are many pages to that article, read them all.
The role of Islam in the trans-Atlantic slavetrade: https://www.raymondibrahim.com/2020/02/10/exposed-islams-role-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade/
The islamic Ottoman slave trade. https://zulama.blogspot.com/2017/11/slavery-in-ottoman-empire-female-slave.html
Jewish ownership of white slaves in the Ottoman Empire.
https://archive.org/details/JewishOwnershipOfSlavicWhiteSlavesInTheOttomanEmpire
The legality of slavery in Islam, together with the example of the Prophet Muhammad, who himself bought, sold, captured, and owned slaves, may explain why slavery persisted until the 19th century in many places (and later still in some countries). The impetus for the abolition of slavery came largely from colonial powers, although some Muslim thinkers argued strongly for abolition.
Slaves came from many places
Unlike the Atlantic slave traders, Muslims enslaved people from many cultures as well as Africa. Other sources included the Balkans, Central Asia and Mediterranean Europe.
The Golden Horde slave trade.
An immense number of slaves flowed from the Crimea, the Balkans and the steppes of West Asia to Islamic markets. BD Davis laments that the ‘‘Tartars and other Black Sea peoples had sold millions of Ukrainians, Georgians, Circassians, Greeks, Armenians, Bulgarians, Slavs and Turks,’’ which received little notice.875 Crimean Tatars enslaved and sold some 1,750,000 Ukrainians, Poles and Russian between 1468 and 1694. 876 According to another estimate, between 1450 and 1700, the Crimean Tatars exported some 10,000 slaves, including some Circassians, annually—that is, some 2,500,000 slaves in all, to the Ottoman Empire.877 The Tatar slave-raiding Khans returned with 18,000 slaves from Poland (1463), 100,000 from Lvov (1498), 60,000 from South Russia (1515), 50,000–100,000 from Galicia (1516), during the ‘harvesting of the steppe.’ Numbers from Moscow (1521), 800,000 were taken and from Valynia (1676), 400,000 were taken. 800,000 from Moscow (1521), 200,000 from South Russia (1555), 100,000 from Moscow (1571), 50,000 from Poland (1612), 60,000 from South Russia (1646), 100,000 from Poland (1648), 300,000 from Ukraine (1654), 400,000 from Valynia (1676) and thousands from Poland (1694). Besides these major catches, they made countless more Jihad raids during the same period, which yielded a few to tens of thousands of slaves.878 These figures of enslavement must be considered in the context that the population of the Tatar Khanate was only about 400,000 at the time. (1463-1694) while sources are incomplete, conservative tabulation of the slave raids against the Eastern European population indicate that at least 7 Million European people-men, women, children were enslaved by Muslims.
Iran’s government continue to support Syria by signing a new agreement for expanding in all fields military cooperations between Iran and Syria, military equipment wise by strengthening Syria’s Air Defences .
U.S.A. has been operating in Syria illegally without any agreements with the government and by occupying territories in Syria, and are unwelcomed by people in the whole region.
Turkey has been late in fulfilling its obligations on withdrawing terrorist forces and are also illegally occupying territories in Syria.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iran-vows-to-strengthen-syrias-air-defenses-in-new-military-cooperation-deal/
ISIL group infiltraded Gaza and working for Israeli intelligence, according to reports in Arab press “al Akhbar”.
https://en.farsnews.ir/newstext.aspx?nn=13990418000634
It is well known that IISL was created by US military (Camp Bucca) by CIA, and is working for Israel in the military insurgence of Syria developed by USA as an international political coup d’etat by military forces such as al Qaeda and the newly formed ISIL that are still occupying territories in the occupied Golan Heights among other huge occupation and terrorist activities in Syria and Iraq that is a direct support of illegal expansion of Israel .
My friend. ISIS, at least the top echelon, are Mossad- CIA- Mi6.
The radical Arabs that went to the Caucasus, I.e., Chechnya, were the same thing, they went and cost Russia two costly conflicts. Same folks, with the same ideology and weapons logistics, were starting nefarious campaign of diabolical mass terrorism in China, even Beijing was hit a few times. But the Chinese saw what happened in Russia and Iraq-Syria, so they took a different approach, rounded up the big Wahhabi infestation they found they had, and put these terrorists in re-education camps, the ones the western – Jewish MSM say are ‘ Concentration Camps ‘.
This type of fake news is to imply that the opposite is always true scenario. When Mossad leak this, they automatically have plausible deniability.
The media is mostly fake, the governments are fake, everyone ignores the crimes of their favorite gangs while condemning the other gangs in the harshest terms. I was reading some anti-China news the other day: article after article about the evils of China. Other news sources will go on and on about the evils of the US. They are both right about the generalities, even if they get the details wrong. The question is, will one understand politics better by reading no propaganda (in other words no news), or by reading diverse propaganda? The propaganda will manipulate and deceive you even if you read it from diverse sources; yet without reading news you may be more influenced by the delusions and prejudices of people around you. Anyway, with the current pandemic and lockdowns it is highly impractical to stay away from news. You can’t not have an opinion about the pandemic, and all sources of information about it are mixed up with partisan propaganda. It is increasingly hard to avoid getting sucked into the vortex of delusional confusion afflicting roughly everyone.
Is seeking clarity in contemporary politics similar to looking for water in the middle of the Sahara? Everyone seems to believe what they want. Whatever party, government or political system you want to endorse or condemn, just Yandex it and there is abundant proof that your hunch is right. Is this a wisdom behind the advice of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, when he advised that when there is no longer a leader for the Muslims we should “stay away from all the sects/groups, even if you have to bite the root of a tree”? Politics based on machine-augmented mass confusion is less reliable and less spiritually useful than old-fashioned human-to-human politics, yet one can’t really “stay out of politics” no matter how repulsive the atmosphere of confusion, malice and dishonesty becomes. The politics comes to you and stomps all over you: wear this, learn this, use this, think this, say this!
The Truth needs to be sought in the Heart, not in the digitized, algorithm-afflicted strife of unenlightened victims of propaganda, yet how loudly the victims wail and scream!
“The Truth needs to be sought in the Heart, not in the digitized, algorithm-afflicted strife of unenlightened victims of propaganda'”
The above phrase reminds me of how anti-christ tries to create out of us mere bodies without souls. I.e without an immaterial reality. Simply, robots incapable of independent and creative thought. (Jasads). Hence to counter that effort, one needs to be in a vibrational energy/frequency in tune with the divine where divine truth can penetrate teh heart.
“When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul; – Proverbs 2:10
“My heavens and my earths are too small to contain Me, but the heart of My faithful servant can contain Me. – Hadith Qudusi.
Your first quote reminded me immediately of the speech given by John Nash at his Nobel Prize acceptance ceremony in the movie “A Beautiful Mind” [ incidentally, I dont tink he ever said this; but the scriptwriter who did had a point]:
” I’ve always believed in numbers, in equations, in logic and reason.But after a lifetime of such pursuits: I ask – What truly is logic? Who decides reason? My quest has taken me to the physical, the metaphysical, the delusional, and back. I have made the most important discovery of my career – the most important discovery of my life. It is only in the mysterious equations of love that any logic or reasons can be found”
I’m not the all the way with that – our current world and it’s technology, some of it’s medicine, it’s abilities, have come from logic and reason. But it’s because we are held in the power grip of those with no heart nor any understanding of it’s vast essential power, that we have the sad world we do have.
But it doesn’t have to be this way.
As our technology derived from reason goes ahead in leaps and bounds, we have a bigger job – to awaken the understanding which was once common knowledge – of the heart;, it’s power, it’s understanding and it’s essential presence in every individual life, and every nation.
No. There are absolute truths that can easily be proven. You don’t just believe in what you want to believe.
Communism is btter than Capitalism, and there were no homeless and beggars under communism. Those are hard core pure facts, 100% provable, since I grew up under communism and we didn’t have any beggars. Cuba has nO starving children, even UN admits that.
Capitalism is evil and it only works via exploitation of somebody or/and something. That is a proven fact. Capitalism has killed billions of people around the planet. Capitalism eventually WILL fail as it is currently collapsing in West/USA.
Undeniable facts.
Christianity is made up religion, with a book that has been written and re-written many times, the original meaning has been lost. Christianity has been used by the West to control people for over 2000 years and used widely around the world to suppress and control people. Christianity is pure evil. Fact. And so on.
You have to also look back at history.
Who has been genocidal to other people, and who has not, .
Rabbinical Khazarian Talmudic owned world MSM, or China Daily, Xinxhua, for example.
Jerusalem Post maybe ?
Uppaluri Gopala Krishnamurti’s quote comes to mind: “He claimed that the demand for enlightenment was the only thing standing in the way of enlightenment itself, if enlightenment existed at all. ”
It’s his 102. birthday today (died 2007. ) His quote perfectly tells the essence of Cancer. A wise astrologer said: ‘Cancer is the abundance before order.’ With Cancer rising, Moon in Cancer, he is a pure embodiment of the first Summer- sign = as threefold Cancer, being pure ‘water’, and living it’s livelihood, is an inner course of events with a child’s heart beyond time.
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Krishnamurti,_U.G.
Instead of following informations about public villains too constantly and intellectually only, the Cancer in us is our openness for moods, for feelings, ready in everyday’s routine for sparks of living heart and it’s blossoms among the leaves, in which the fruits of life are sleeping.
A great opposition is coming – Jupiter/Pluto to Sun and back in common resonance. What does it mean? Gods of chance and waiver in the highest heaven and soul of the individual in intense resonance.
And Mars does it this week with Mercury. World and Soul in intensified resonance. The Zodiac
asks for creative outcomes, hence ‘weeks of ‘conception’.
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.com/2020/07/embodiment-and-conception.html
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.com/2020/07/embodiment-and-conception.html
mundanomaniac. Hi.
I remember a post in the cafe at the beginning of 2020, when an astologer (you?) said that 2020 would be all changes and chaos. Also mentioned w.se it to help them make decisions, and that each ancient culture has its own “school of astrology”.
I’d like to hear more about this if you would be so kind. Thank you
Beautiful photos of the comet at Lake Balaton – 2020/07/08
The NEOWISE comet was photographed from the south coast by Rafael Schmall, a renowned astro- photographer. The images taken at dawn on July 8 show both the mountains of the north coast and
the special celestial phenomenon.
It even appears in the morning sky for a few days, but from mid-July, the comet NEOWISE can already
be seen in the evening sky. Comet C / 2020 F3 (NEOWISE) was discovered on March 27 this year, but
it was only visible in the southern hemisphere at the time. Then, on July 4, it also appeared in the early
morning sky in Hungary, above the northeastern horizon.
https://likebalaton.hu/telepules/abrahamhegy/galeria/neowise-ustokos-a-balaton-felett-schmall-rafael-asztrofotos-158201/
I won’t say anything…the link…https://www.businessinsider.com.au/face-masks-effective-in-protecting-against-coronavirus-2020-6?r=US&IR=T…says it all…I will remain suitably meek and mild and try hard not to alert the haughty ‘its just a hoax brigade’.
Just a quote this time… why on earth would a farmer have anything original and of consequence to contribute anyway. Well, apart that is maybe just from a position of plain old garden variety common-sense!
…and the quote…
“A recent analysis of coronavirus outbreaks in 42 countries found that countries where mask-wearing was common, like China and Japan, saw more modest outbreaks compared with nations that weren’t accustomed to the practice.
“We believe broader mask use is key to control the pandemic,” the researchers wrote.
A model from the University of Washington predicted that the US could prevent about 33,000 coronavirus deaths by October if 95% of the population wore face masks in public.”
This information shouldn’t be remarkable. We know respiratory droplets are the primary method by which people pass the coronavirus to others. A mask that covers our noses and mouths blocks those particles.
“It does have some protection for the wearer,” Dr. Ramzi Asfour, an infectious-disease physician in the San Francisco Bay Area, told Business Insider. “If you think about somebody sneezing on you, there’s a lot of these droplets that come out. Well, a lot of those droplets are big, and they will easily be stopped by the mask.”
Indeed, Indian researchers recently determined that a simple cloth mask “substantially decreases” the spread of virus particles when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
According to their study, infectious droplets traveled about three times farther (up to 16 feet) when a person wasn’t wearing a mask, compared with just 5 feet when particles leaked out the sides of a face mask.
An April study in the journal Nature also showed that surgical masks reduced the transmission of multiple human coronaviruses (not including this new one, SARS-CoV-2) through both respiratory droplets and aerosol particles.
Contradictory guidelines sowed confusion among Americans…
It’s understandable that people are confused about whether masks help, since all this evidence wasn’t available at the start of the year. Unfortunately, that’s when public-health officials had to make quick calls about whether people should be required to wear masks in public. Authorities also had to stockpile enough personal protective equipment for healthcare workers, which meant masks were in short supply.
At the start of the pandemic, the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention did not recommend the use of face masks for the general public. Other public-health experts, including those cited by Business Insider in February, also advised that the practice was unnecessary outside China.
The recommendations were delivered at a time when the risk of infection in the US seemed low. Now the country has the worst outbreak, with more than 2.4 million cases and 122,000 deaths.
In February, scientists also hadn’t learned about asymptomatic or presymptomatic cases, which are now understood to make up about 35% of coronavirus infections.”
…unquote…
Hope I haven’t caused another big stir in this delightful cafe. But I do nevertheless fear that there are a few regular customers [2 in particular] that just flat out won’t want to hear any of the above.
Apologies if I have Mods
Col
“We believe broader mask use is key to control the pandemic,” the researchers wrote.
Nothing but opinion from those that think they can foil nature. It is really a show of arrogance like someone saying we want to save the planet.
All past years we let corona viruses run it’s course. People died but it passed. Now these people want to fight the corona virus by mandating everyone wear face masks and social distancing only to find out fighting it’s natural course only slows it down.
Really what does testing positive tell us? What does being infected mean? Does testing positive mean people are infected and can transmit the virus by coughing?
Notice testing positive is called a case which no doubt has a case number. So now we know by getting tested we consummate a contract with the State and in administrative law we fall under the terms of the contract. Uniform Commercial Code, UCC. And what people don’t know when they get tested is what the terms of the contract is. Like perhaps having to be injected by a vaccine when one is ready to be tested on the public?
Are we being lied to by omission vs commission? Is the covid-19 really a flu virus?
“Are we being lied to by omission vs commission? Is the covid-19 really a flu virus? ”
Both and Hugely. The lies are spreading. But a lot of it is Synecdoche – a literary device analogous to inductive reasoning, whereby certain select pieces of the entire picture are presented as if they give the whole picture with other essential aspects left out, in order to have maximum effect on the readers emotions / prejudices in order to manipulate their perceptions.
It works well on the mass “hive mind” which follows the mainstream media religiously, believing it’s every word, using outlets and publications like Business Insider, [owned by the German publishing house Axel Springer which, as Udolfe Ulfkotte informed us, is owned by the CIA] .
It’s been a huge tool of the “mind benders”, the descendants of Edward Bernays and the CIA director [Casey} who said “we will know our job is done when everything Americans believe is a lie” [or similar words].
And we can see by their words and actions how well it works on the manipulable. .
The mind benders are doing a pretty good job in Russia.
@Thunderbird
” only to find out fighting it’s natural course only slows it down.”, what we also are finding out is the rather unsurprising fact that governments very much like to rule like dictators.
For a time no masks are necessary, then out from some new constellations masks are necessary (although the ‘Pandemic’ is very near background noise level (low relative numbers of positives to tested -> false postive increase exponentially, we are currently around 0.8% (very, very low)) and to keep the postives up (no one can know whether they are infected as is portrayed everywhere at this time) they steadily increase the daily testing rate. From a scientific standpoint it’s totally silly, from a political standpoint it ensures dictatorial powers.
So I really don’t need a crystal ball to predict that the Corona-virus (foremost the political strain) will haunt us up to the point where the new mode of governance is a given and the emergency-laws (and it’s issueing mode) being made permanent – of course !!
The biggest scam ever undertaken on the public on a global scale and almost nobody can see it, in fact they see that they cannot see, because it cannot be what cannot be ?
I don’t mind hearing it, at all, my South Seas friend!
It is a perfect example of improper ranking of the perceptions and “facts” and endless statistical nonsense regarding this “thingee”.
And the overriding fact of the matter…..from the timing, the confusion with regard to minor details like masks, and especially the criminality of a handful of Democratic governors consigning elderly cases to confinement in nursing homes with other of the most vulnerable among the population (in New York, for example, while hospital ships provided by Trump were unused for such infectious people) is that we have too many clear examples of the use of this thing as a Political Weapon of Fear …..to fall into the trap of uncritically and blindly aiding and abetting the EMPIRE fear mongers…while being virtually uninterested….. in fact indifferent to fitting this rather clear Covid Flank picture into the broader context of current world events……with too many other related flanks for any competent observer to ignore.
Without which your seeming one and only fixation……. makes no sense.
So that’s why some…”2 in particular” …are not that keen about cowering in your Covid Fox Hole with you….pinned down by the globalist health mafia enemy of humanity…..wearing face panties, breathing their own carbon dioxide…..and are more interested in ranging about in oxygen rich reconnaissance patrols, getting a more accurate view of the terrain of the battlefield.
That’s all.
Cheers!
“So that’s why some…”2 in particular” …are not that keen about cowering in your Covid Fox Hole with you….pinned down by the globalist health mafia enemy of humanity…..wearing face panties, breathing their own carbon dioxide…..and are more interested in ranging about in oxygen rich reconnaissance patrols, getting a more accurate view of the terrain of the battlefield.”
Hear hear. Well said. It’s especially true when you live at 8,400 ft – already the air is reduced in 02 compared to sea level, and to reduce it further by wearing an infective stiffle rag is even more insane.
It is, however, a mark of a certain mind/personality type that they cannot learn;, cannot see errors, cannot accept a mistake. They seek out that which will strengthen their chosen prejudice. It’s very like trying to force a man who is colour blind understand what the colours red and green actually are. He is genetically incapable of seeing anything but grey.
The Russians have this word which I cannot remember – Saker introduced me to it – which means “agreement incapable”, as in, a person who is, literally, incapable of agreement, – due to their mindset and personality I guess, or maybe sometimes just an intelligence impairment as in a Downs Syndrome person. They just cannot be reasoned enough to make a rational agreement, for whatever reason.
I think this is such a person – to try to reason, to ask for a rational acceptance of a difference of opinion – to stop sniping and mocking – all in vain. He just keeps on with his troll – like bleating.
Best to just enjoy the beautiful sunshine of a lovely mountain day, cool breeze, flowers bursting out, and having just enjoyed a wonderful walk under flowering hibiscus, eucalypts, ti-trees, beside a rushing gurgling mountain stream, with my Samoyed dog.
Neither us wearing masks Lol. :-)
Col, in one of previous cafes you asked clarification about cloth mask effectiveness. I replied but it seems answer was lost among 143 posts. Here it is again, with kind permission by Mod (typos corrected):
“Col, thanks for a good question. This should be discussed exactly in this inquisitive and rational manner. As for farmers, they are the smartest of us humans. Probably due to generational honing by household independence within small communities. My late father in law was a farmer, and I have never ever seen a man with more common sense and wisdom. Where I live, my hiring preference was always the farm boys and girls. So that is that.
Back to N95. What it simply means is the guarantee mask will stop 95 % of particles of diameter defined by its filter size. Therefore protection from viral particles ultimately depends on filter size. Most common N95 filter size is 0.3 microns.
https://www.honeywell.com/en-us/newsroom/news/2020/03/n95-masks-explained
Problem is the size of the virus. Covid19 virus is 120nm diameter, so 0.12 microns. Much smaller than common 0.3 micron N95 mask. Means for the true protection we need extremely good and well fitted cartridge respirator PPE, or for front lines, full face shield closed and positive air supply system.
Now you can understand why wearing a simple cloth mask is futile for protection, but is somewhat useful gesture if wearer is sick. In polite societies like in Far East, for decades now, one will always wear a mask in public if there is a hint of respiratory illness, even for common cold.
These days everything is distorted by playing on our emotions, and not on our common sense. It is possible to have behaviour and opinion on simple PPE without being woke or a tool. Middle road. Farmers common sense.
Observe people in public and the use the cloth masks. If mask is not over the nose and mouth it is mostly plain ridiculous.
There is matter of oxygen level drop under the mask which can become serious health issue. You dont want to breathe air mixture below 16 % O2. That is the reason I always avoided N95 in favour of cartridge respirators. Better air flow and fit.
Lets not think about single occupant vehicle drivers wearing a mask. Plumb dangerous for no reason at all.
Hope this was sufficient explanation why healthy people may chose not to wear masks in open public spaces without being branded as imbeciles. No hard feelings at all.
Cheers Col.”
On can plainly see you have a firm position on this matter, backed by data of your choice. But I am kindly asking you to allow for different views, as it may lead to constructive debate after which we can all change or update our opinions on this matter. Please note I avoided using term “belief” as it precludes any discussion.
Respect.
Katamaranic
With respect…please note that I have never advocated wide-spread mandates on compulsory mask-wearing.
I do advocate social responsibility including mask-wearing which in some circumstances would undoubtedly dramatically curtail the spread of this virus and an official mandate only in extremely risky circumstances.
It is painfully obvious from my reading that the countries that have faired well in the fight against Covid-19 have the following common denominators…
#1 Respected leaders that set a good example and are decisive and inspirational
#2 Early extensive testing to minimize spread and monitor progress and strategy
#3 Endorse the use of masks early and even sometimes for extended periods when appropriate
#4 Practice social distancing to varying degrees appropriate to the circumstances both
nationally and regionally
#5 Health authorities that are honest enough to quickly gain the confidence of the population and don’t
constantly lie to and confuse the public
I have an interesting question for you…in regard to US, UK, and Brazil which have performed so appallingly in regard to Covid-19, how many of them can tick more than one of these boxes. One, in particular, would score a great big fat resounding zero!
The countries around the world that have the spread under control invariably score four if not five out of five on this list and Mask wearing has been a very powerful component. In NZ’s case, I would say we have scored not a perfect 5 but perhaps a 4.5. Our mortality rate per million population remains at a mere 4. This is, touch wood, with zero community spread for a few weeks now.
NZ’s MR is…
164 times less than the UK
100 times less than the US
81 times less than Brazil
I also note in this link…
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200612172200.htm
..quote…
“Renyi Zhang, Texas A&M Distinguished Professor of Atmospheric Sciences and the Harold J. Haynes Chair in the College of Geosciences, and colleagues from the University of Texas, the University of California-San Diego and the California Institute of Technology have had their work published in the current issue of PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences).”
…further quote…The team examined the chances of COVID-19 infection and how the virus is easily passed from person to person. From trends and mitigation procedures in China, Italy and New York City, the researchers found that using a face mask reduced the number of infections by more than 78,000 in Italy from April 6-May 9 and by over 66,000 in New York City from April 17-May 9.
“Our results clearly show that airborne transmission via respiratory aerosols represents the dominant route for the spread of COVID-19,” Zhang said. “By analysing the pandemic trends without face-covering using the statistical method and by projecting the trend, we calculated that over 66,000 infections were prevented by using a face mask in little over a month in New York City. We conclude that wearing a face mask in public corresponds to the most effective means to prevent inter-human transmission.
“This inexpensive practice, in conjunction with social distancing and other procedures, is the most likely opportunity to stop the COVID-19 pandemic. Our work also highlights that sound science is essential in decision-making for the current and future public health pandemics.”
…and…
“Our study establishes very clearly that using a face mask is not only useful to prevent infected coughing droplets from reaching uninfected persons, but is also crucial for these uninfected persons to avoid breathing the minute atmospheric particles (aerosols) that infected people emit when talking and that can remain in the atmosphere tens of minutes and can travel tens of feet,” Molina said.”
…end of quote…
Coming back to the word ‘respect’ that you end your comment with…what I see clearly around the globe are the tragic consequences of not respecting this virus. I am not in this discussion for ego…I am here to challenge the mantra that CV-19 is a harmless hoax which can be ignored with minimal consequences. I know just how dangerous that lack of strategy and respect is. The evidence is out there and it is very ugly…it will kill people by the tens of thousands.
Regards from the south seas
Col
Col, thanks for further discussion. I completely agree with your end statement, where it is obvious that SARS Cov-2 is not a harmless hoax. I do propose that harmful part is worth examining.
I like your list of countries with appalling record with Covid-19. I would add Italy, Spain and Serbia, and there are many more. Yes, all of these have abysmal leadership and correspondingly atrocious answer to SARS Cov-2 epidemic. One must ask if it is by design, then follow the data wherever it may fall, even if data confronts one’s starting premises, and then the answer is mostly yes, government responses to epidemic are harmful to citizens, by design.
For starters, correlation is not causation. Re: cloth and surgical masks and transmission vectors, you provided an opinion based on modeling. I have read it, thank you Sir. I do think its modeling conclusions are overreaching.
Here is another opinion, based on data, published on July 8th, 2020:
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/maskerade-covid-1984-evidence-free-compulsory-masking/
…quote…
…W.H. Kellogg, M.D., infectious diseases expert and then-executive officer of the California State Board of Health, made this rueful, brutally honest 1920 observation on the failure of masking to contain rampant influenza spread during the devastating 1918 influenza pandemic:
The masks, contrary to expectation, were worn cheerfully and universally, and also, contrary to expectation of what should follow under such circumstances, no effect on the epidemic curve was to be seen. Something was plainly wrong with our hypotheses…
…The current much less lethal coronavirus COVID-19 epidemic (i.e., 100-1,000X lower death rate than the 1918 pandemic flu) is clearly waning. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is poised to declare its epidemic phase over after 10 consecutive weeks of declining COVID-19 mortality, which has markedly reduced the virus’ U.S. weekly death toll. Despite these hard, objective outcome data, recent bipartisan, coercive admonitions for compulsory masking have been pronounced by Democratic Party presidential candidate Joe Biden, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), and Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.
Today’s hectoring rhetoric and accompanying national, state, or local mandates notwithstanding, 100 years after Dr. Kellogg’s frank lament, there is still no controlled evidence that supports masking, especially in non-health-care settings, to attenuate the epidemic spread of respiratory viruses, including COVID-19…
…Ten randomized, controlled trials reporting estimates of face mask effectiveness in lowering rates of laboratory-confirmed influenza within the community, published between 2008 and 2016, were analyzed and pooled, applying a rigorous, standardized methodology (Link provided below). One study evaluated mask usage by Hajj pilgrims to Mecca, two university-setting studies assessed the efficacy of face masks for prevention of confirmed influenza among student campus residents over five months of surveillance, and seven household studies examined the impact of masking infected persons only (one), household contacts of infected persons only (one), or both groups (five). None of these studies, individually, or their aggregated, pooled analysis, which enhanced the overall “statistical power” to detect smaller effects, demonstrated a significant benefit of masking for the reduction of confirmed influenza infection (also see tabulation). The authors further concluded with a caution that using face masks improperly might “increase the risk for (viral) transmission.”…
…From CDC, Volume 26, Number 5—May 2020
Policy Review – Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures:
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article :
Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.
We did not consider the use of respirators in the community. Respirators are tight-fitting masks that can protect the wearer from fine particles (37) and should provide better protection against influenza virus exposures when properly worn because of higher filtration efficiency. However, respirators, such as N95 and P2 masks, work best when they are fit-tested, and these masks will be in limited supply during the next pandemic. These specialist devices should be reserved for use in healthcare settings or in special subpopulations such as immunocompromised persons in the community, first responders, and those performing other critical community functions, as supplies permit.
In lower-income settings, it is more likely that reusable cloth masks will be used rather than disposable medical masks because of cost and availability (38). There are still few uncertainties in the practice of face mask use, such as who should wear the mask and how long it should be used for. In theory, transmission should be reduced the most if both infected members and other contacts wear masks, but compliance in uninfected close contacts could be a problem (12,34). Proper use of face masks is essential because improper use might increase the risk for transmission (39). Thus, education on the proper use and disposal of used face masks, including hand hygiene, is also needed….
…Further quote … Washington state’s June 24 government-mandated public masking edict for the alleged prevention of COVID-19 infections was immediately challenged in a court with statewide jurisdiction. Although the plaintiffs failed to cite the May 2020 meta-analysis discussed above, they did refer to an April 2020 “New England Journal of Medicine” (NEJM) commentary on masking to support their claim of “scant evidence” that mask-wearing “does anything to reduce transmission of COVID-19.” Indeed, the NEJM citation provided was extracted in the legal filing, verbatim:
We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to COVID-19 as face-to-face contact within six feet with a patient with symptomatic COVID-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching COVID-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic…
…And final quote…Dr. D.A. Henderson (1928-2016) was an indefatigable, iconic public health steward who spearheaded the successful global campaign to eradicate a genuine plague, variola virus: smallpox. Henderson’s salient observations from a 2006 review provide a cogent rebuttal to the prevailing totalitarian imposition of irrational lockdowns and masking edicts to ostensibly “combat” COVID-19.
There are no historical observations or scientific studies that support the confinement by quarantine of groups of possibly infected people for extended periods in order to slow the spread of influenza. …
It is difficult to identify circumstances in the past half-century when large-scale quarantine has been effectively used in the control of any disease. The negative consequences of large-scale quarantine are so extreme (forced confinement of sick people with the well; complete restriction of movement of large populations; difficulty in getting critical supplies, medicines, and food to people inside the quarantine zone) that this mitigation measure should be eliminated from serious consideration. …
Home quarantine also raises ethical questions. …
In Asia during the SARS period [a coronavirus like COVID-19, which caused localized Asian outbreaks during 2002-2003], many people in the affected communities wore surgical masks when in public. But studies have shown that the ordinary surgical mask does little to prevent inhalation of small droplets bearing influenza virus. The pores in the mask become blocked by moisture from breathing, and the air stream simply diverts around the mask. There are few data available to support the efficacy of N95 or surgical masks outside a healthcare setting. N95 masks need to be fit-tested to be efficacious and are uncomfortable to wear for more than an hour or two.
Henderson concluded with this sober warning:
The problems in implementing such measures are formidable, and secondary effects of absenteeism and community disruption as well as possible adverse consequences, such as loss of public trust in government and stigmatization of quarantined people and groups, are likely to be considerable. …
Experience has shown that communities faced with epidemics or other adverse events respond best and with the least anxiety when the normal social functioning of the community is least disrupted. Strong political and public health leadership to provide reassurance and to ensure that needed medical care services are provided are critical elements. If either is seen to be less than optimal, a manageable epidemic could move toward catastrophe…
…end quote.
Dear Col, great Dr. D.A. Henderson called for “strong political and public health leadership” in this time of plague, same as you did. So do we all.
My personal opinion – so far – is that harm from (under certain circumstances) deadly SARS Cov-2 is deliberately exacerbated by agents pushing the Agenda, scope of which still to be determined. This Agenda is nothing short of murderous and criminal. For example, knowing that critical patient group are elderly people over 80 years of age, NY Governor Cuomo ordered sick elderly people to be returned and confined to old age homes, where there are no hopes for quality care, and quick viral spread is but guaranteed. Another example is prohibiting use of a cheap, safe and efficient medication, hydrochloroquine (HCQ), together with Azythromycine (general spectre antibiotic and antizootic) and Zync (Dr. Raoult and Dr. Zelensky protocols). This medication is used in all countries with stellar record of fighting SARS Cov-2. How many lives are lost by denying HCQ? Third example is patently wrong, I would state deliberately so, ventilator protocol. For months elderly patients in Italy, Spain, UK and US were practically offed by High flow / Atmospheric air mixture protocol, applied to patients with mineralized, crumbly lung tissue with only 20-30 percent of alveolic capacity to accept O2, instead of Low flow / High Oxygen protocol (enriched 20-40 percent O2 in air mixture), where air pressure is not damaging lung tissue, and high oxygen content helps with body oxygenation. Please note that all of the above examples are reported by doctors and nurses in front line hospitals.
We can go on to lock-downs, ie mandatory mass house arrests of population instead of strict sick patient isolation, like in China, Singapore and other successful societies. Constant bombardment with fear porn from Agenda owned mass media on every level. Application of brain washing techniques by mass media (please do look this up). All of it designed to makes us sick and – if you wish – crazy.
In the meantime, what happened under the cover of epidemic? One of the largest mass wealth distributions ever. Theft of everything in our society which was not nailed down. Trillions of capital flowed up, never to be seen again. Society fractured to bits, its matrix atomized, fragments fighting with each other. And damage is still coming, with cold autumn and hungry winter ahead of us.
Respect and warm regards,
Katamaranac
The Covid Controversies
Thanks guys, for the respectful conversation. My words here are strong and yes, they may not fall on fertile ground.
This is how I see it, and how I see that the whole space has been weaponised. And many inadvertent soldiers are fighting a war that they do not understand. There is no understanding that the chaos and the different beliefs are very deliberately given to the masses to .. what else, keep ’em busy to fight. Does nobody see the divide and conquer tactics that they themselves are using?
– Wear a mask/Don’t wear a mask – fight one another
– The virus is dangerous/not dangerous – fight one another
– There is/isn’t a virus – fight one another
– The numbers are wrong/correct – fight one another
– Kill the old people/don’t kill the old people – fight one another.
– My expert is better than yours – fight one another.
And so we go.
Time ago, I said that the alt media is complicit. You are being recruited into a war domain of words and walk into that fighting proudly and at the end of the day you will be left penniless, weary and of no account. Because this is what happens if you enter into a war and you don’t understand the sides.
So, a few statements:
– For every expert that says A, I can bring another one that says B. (Geez, I can bring three more!)
– For every western expert that you bring, I can bring you an eastern expert that says a different thing.
– The chaos is the message – we cannot afford to let ourselves walk into that chaos and again become hapless victims of divide and conquer and even enthusiastically play the game ourselves. We need to bridge differences and not any longer use cheap words to insult one another.
– Every set of statistics that ignore the Chinese experience, is questionable, I do not care how sweet the expert is that produces the statistics. The statistics are mostly deliberately obscured, because chaos is the message. Right from the beginning, when I saw the US administration pooh poohing this thing, I said .. aha, Trump is going to try and work this thing by numbers as he understands numbers and exactly what one can do with them. And how many here are falling for it.
– You are forgetting the hard co-mingling of the Covid narrative with the deep wish of the West to fight China. Covid narrative (whichever the origin, whatever you believe about anything), has more China Cold War inside than what I’ve ever seen but what I do see, is the soldiers recruited right here and mindlessly repeating war mantra. Bear in mind the western powers thought in some Cassandra-ish way, the virus/no virus will remain in China – think of that a moment. Think of when Kashoggi was killed and when the Chinese made the alarm – same day given a little bit of time difference.
– The creeping technocracy, the desperate search for an expert to tell us things that we can sort out over the garden fence is inculcating even more than the climate debacle, the scientist as neo-god-king.
The Covid narrative (despite facts or alt media wet dreams) has become a driving aspect of a geopolitical cold war. Why do you think the western bunch is so keen on not masking up? Because the east is masking up. It was a deliberately seeded meme. Those are the lines being drawn and they are being drawn just this starkly and this clearly. Why do you fall for this in your own thinking? Why do you think such a relatively unimportant thing has reached this kind of crescendo? I can write you a coherent mask strategy which every mother will understand in about 15 minutes (and no, children should not wear masks in general and no, you should not wear a mask when you go running in the morning) and that would be not insulting anyone else with words like mouth panties and accusing everyone with a different thought as a MSM shill, while you shill as hard as you can.
Everyone that so earnestly wants to teach the other one what is right or wrong, or how the other one should comport themselves, does not clearly know how the west has spun this narrative – and there is more than one narrative circulating – and China is real good at spinning as well. You are unwittingly lending your voice to a force that seemingly is not yet visible, but fast becoming so.
We are looking at the first world wide roll-out of a biological weapon (real or not and despite what Russia says – they, as well as China is treating this as a biological weapon. Perhaps a test – I do not know what is in their minds).
Because people are stuck in their own belief, (well I can almost say at this time stuck on stupid), you have all closed the fertile discussion space and exchanged that for your fight. May I express my condolences because you have no idea how you are being used as a political and warmaking pawn filling up the chattersphere – no matter which side of the controversy you are on. We have to as a world community learn to overcome these controversies and speak in one voice about gaining our own power.
We’ve not seen the end of biological warfare. We should be discussing and learning, despite differences. Unfortunately, you’ve made the mask controversy the overarching fight. And your fight is ugly and demeaning, shortsigted and deeply into divide and conquer for an egotistical feel-good.
We are seeing right at the moment Covid Made Wars – in Serbia and West vs China and internally, inside of countries to divide their own masses. We are dealing with some kind of human extermination .. perhaps not planned this way, but the PTB understood the profit potential first and very quickly. And here, people fight and insult about masks.
No, this is not a rant – it is an analysis. It is one of the greatest disappointments in my life that the peeps immediately divided themselves into different sheep camps. I thought, I really thought, this time we can speak in one voice, sit together and say .. OK, is this all you got? You wanna kill us? Well, watch us, we ‘aint gonna die. You want to isolate us in house arrest? Watch us, we will not break and we will not allow those around us to break. It is a deep disappointment for me that we could not come together, work some ways (and these are easy – virus or no virus) and make the ptb powerless. We had this opportunity. The only thing we needed to do, was to live – and afford that to our neighbor and our direct sphere of influence. We tumbled and crumbled and let ourselves be lead by the nose by choosing to fight the fiddly bits, instead of to unite the important issues.
” For every expert that says A, I can bring another one that says B. (Geez, I can bring three more!)
– For every western expert that you bring, I can bring you an eastern expert that says a different thing.”
Yes, this is true. It’s true partly because this is how science when it’s being conducted as it should be – these days all too rarely – is made by combined discussion, disagreement, and thrashing out to arrive at a truth. Partly, any way.
But for some – and it’s how I look at it – it’s not so much a case of “one “expert” against another”. It’s where do you go when you are having a narrative shoved down your throat from a group of people you have evry reason to be highly distrustful of, i.e. Politicians, Corporate Kings and Mainstream media, Deep State shadows, all shown to have an agenda to push, a controlled pathway they want to force us all down.
I see it this way. On the one hand we have a Government trying to tell us that a couple of airliners were commandeered by a group of half trained thugs, flown across US airspace without any detection from one of the best protection systems in the world, flown with great accuracy into two buildings built specifically to withstand such a thing, [which then exploded] and defied all the laws of physics to circle in ground level air pressure and crash into a low building without a leaving a trace. On the other hand [supposedly and all time favourite saying of LIbra’s :-) ] we have experts of high provenance.
So, should I accept this dominant MS narrative , or when a large group of Architects, Engineers, specialists in all fields, bomb disposal experts ALL get up with solid, scientific and mathematical evidence to prove this impossible —- do I accept them? Who would you accept?? Those who lied the world into Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia et al
It’s the same with the JFK murder – a story with more holes than a kilogram of Swiss cheese – or the testimony of ballistics experts??
The story of the Skripals, pere et fille, and their vanishing into thin air without a trace, supposedly because the dastardly Kremlin wanted to infuriate the English – or the experts who highlight all the Swiss cheese holes and impossibilities?.
You see, for me, this is just another example of a play card we’ve seen so often in recent decades. False Flags, lies, idiotic narratives to serve an agenda against us on the one hand, or scientific, hard, factual, contradictory evidence produced by poeple of provenance and experience on the other???
Sorry, but to me that’s a no-brainer.
But I agree, calling people names because that of their choice of action is indeed not helpful and does fulfill an agenda of “lets you andhim fight” . And it must be resisted, I agree again.
Queen’s Secret Letters Linked with Gough Whitlam’s Sacking to be Made Public After Legal Wrangling
https://sputniknews.com/world/202007091079837427-queens-secret-letters-linked-with-gough-whitlams-sacking-to-be-made-public-after-legal-wrangling/
(we were going to buy back the farm)
This doctor is being investigated for comments he made on Covid 19. Will he be disciplined or lose his right to practice ? Pease watch.
https://youtu.be/TK7P6IbARzo
There was a TV series back in the 50s-60s that Rod Serling hosted. Before each episode he would say; “You are now entering The Twilight Zone”. As “normal” humans look around at what is taking place in our daily lives, I do believe we have entered ‘The Twilight Zone”.
The good doctor is right. If he can be anonymously accused of spreading “disinformation”, or for that matter, politically incorrect speech and thoughts…..anyone can, and lose everything, including their life. This is sick.
Thank you for that link – it adds to the many from practising doctors and nurses from “the front line” all saying the same thing – that bad though this is for the very infirm high risk cohort; t in terms of societies and nations as a whole, it’s nothing compared the diseases currently rampaging through us, heart disease, cancer, etc, and is within bounds of other similar diseases we have bene living with for thousands of years.
Which has us asking “why are “they” doing this? What do “they” have to gain? Where are “they” taking us, and what, in Gods name, is coming down the pipe next?
My respects to an honest, hard working doctor, of guts and integrity, who is speaking out because he sees the lie, and is still caring for his patients. Good to know there are still some among us.
@sandinED
Science is now securely finally back where it started in the realms of fiction, education eradicated, devastated beyond repair – the surrogates passed out by mute machines, ‘back office’ soon to be outsourced to the lowest bidder, mud people somewhere, somehow.
herd readied for tight shaving, fed back into processing machine, optimized for return.
Scene-shot some years in the not so distant future: A bus overtakes a cattle transport, both sides look at each other with the same dumb eyes which seem to ask something long forgotten all in complete sameness. Everywhere is here, here is everywhere.
Europe uncensored (2020-07-08) – NEWS TV
Special edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3ONPSOMlVs
Aleksandar Vucic, President of the Republic of Serbia, Janez Jansa, President of the Republic of
Slovenia, Francois-Xavier Bellamy, MEP, philosopher and Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary,
spoke at the “Europe without censorship” web conference.
English speaking, Hungarian subtitles (English subtitles are also available: click on the subtitle symbol)
Cafe Dweller review on Starikov’s Rouble Nationalization – the Way to Russia’s Freedom
Time call .. Last Round I would need your reviews more or less by next week Tuesday/Wednesday. That gives me enough time to get the combined review document ready for The Saker’s approval and posting on the blog around the weekend following.
Note, The Saker will give final approval or not .. so, write beautifully :-)
Also it is a combined review, (but individual), so keep it short and pithy, so that we don’t bore people with a wall of text. Here and there a quote of course if you like. Remember I suggested either a chapter by chapter review, or take it in 3 sections .. chapters 1 to 5 – chapter 6, which looks to me like a kind of a breakaway going to the fascinating info on Mussolini, then the next set of chapters with all the stories and the establishment of Central Banking (US, France) around chapter 7, then the final chapter which is a passionate call for sovereignty vis a vis Central Banking in Russia. But do what makes sense to you.
Keep it tight, about 500 to 800 words per review? A few notes, we all know book reviews but if you’ve never written one ..
Why did you like or not like this book? Why should a reader read it?
What did you find exceptional?
What did you find not acceptable (data or information or so on)
Why are you (or not) recommending this book
Is the overall thesis, which is really Russia’s sovereignty, strong or not strong ..
Again, these are suggestions – generally follow your own bliss.
Please put on your review how you want your name published and give a header for your review. Mine will be something like: The Book on Economics told in Stories – something like that.
I have an introduction with the meta data .. when was it published, by who and so on .. but what I cannot find, is the English translation. Who actually did it, and when did that become available – there is still bits and pieces of metadata that I don’t feel I have sufficiently factually. Is the manuscript that we all downloaded actually available for free download? And then I have a few links to similar writings, say Glazyev and here and there a link to things that will by difficult for Westerners. Not too much, just a few explanatory comments of things that made me scratch my head.
So, I’ve been searching for other reviews in English but cannot find so far – I’ll search a little deeper to make sure of that. We may be scooping here lol, and if so, it will go far and wide.
Dear amarynth,
Maybe this helps re. the book translator: Aleksandra Platt. Editor: Oliver Bevan.
( info from Starikov’s blog 2012)
https://nstarikov.ru/rouble-nationalization-the-way-to-russias-freedom-20803
azra
Ah, sorry, found the publisher for the english edition:
ISBN978-5-459-01703-8© English translation Piter Publishing House, LLC, 2013© Design of English edition, Piter Publishing House, LLC, 2013
Pg. 2 on the PDF:
http://lit.md/files/nstarikov/rouble_nationalization-the_way_to_russia%27s_freedom.pdf
Kind regards
Thanks Azra .. Now I need to smack myself on the head … of course, look in the book lol.
Now the difficult question .. where did we get that manuscript from and is it ‘legal’ to give the download link – more formally on the blog, not so informally as here in the Cafe? We don’t want some publisher getting their knickies in a knot and suing us you know.
Dear amarynth,
No, you do not need to smack yourself in the head, it is a job of a librarian and you are not it, though you are ( lovingly and knowledgeably ) many ‘things’… ( I read your other articles on plants etc., not just politics, you are a fascinating lady)…
The source was gifted to me few years ago from a local forum ‘elder’ here in my smallish Balkan colony before they had me shut for life and banned from the forum as I was exposing the war in Yugoslavia as anything but the ‘liberation’ war for the ‘freedom’ of Croatia. My claim was that Croatia was a traitor of a sort, like ISIL, and thus similar to Syrian situation…
Anyway, I got banned for life as I spat verbally on the many parliament creatures here ( some of them are the war criminals and have never been punished nor they will ever be for their crimes and massive murders.
Not surprising as they serve the installed order of the things as colonial ‘littlelittlemycroscopic’ masters). They have risen from the cloaca/sewer of the humanity in ex country of Yuga( endearment term for Yugoslavia among the locals ), uneducated ugly servants, cruel killers some of them…But they have served the agenda of destroying Yugoslavia and they are thus properly rewarded here and now. Never punished.
It is the long story. Oh, just their ugly faces, I can not stand to watch them…Primitives in the Armani suits, I wish them plague…
Thus, the link to the Starikov came to me from the internet as a present somewhere few years ago.
I have sent you a blog of Nikolai Starikov, there are the contacts on the bottom of the page, his twitter, email, FB.
Maybe the best way to resolve this legal question would be to directly ask Nikolai Starikov if we can have this PDF published at Saker.
I am sure Starikov will like what you are doing in the Vineyard… Why not invite him to join?
The truth is always simple, and he speaks good English, I have watched some interviews with him.
Kind regards, and I like how you have called me ‘asra’ in the first mailings, that is how my lovely Spanish room mate used to call me when we lived together in Egypt in nineties… Lovely times…
Thank you for everything you do, dear Amarynth
Thanks for the kind words Azra. Just a paragraph about growing things that I penned down some time ago.
https://saker.community/2019/06/12/is-growing-ones-own-food-inherently-political/
Read Chapter seven this am. Much I already knew and was refreshed. Things could and have gotten interesting for Trump for his visible and not so visible moves on the monetary issue. Killing Presidents and Ministers/Royalty is SOP for the money magicians. The heart and brain of the “Swamp”, Blob, Vampire Squid, whatever name you call it, is the global banking cartel. Who emits the “money” rules.
OK, my review is written and put away for 2 more edits — just under 800 words and needs a bit of tightening up here and there, exchanging a word here and there for a better one, changing a sentence to flow better .. which is my normal style. I write it, and then I fix it. :-) I cannot ‘write it right’ the first time.
So, any other feedback out there?
Netflix finally upset me with ongoing emails and their eternal wish to provide a real life experience for me. I was told I should start using my account … er! … What account ?
On their chat site I questioned “my account” and did so with colourful language, otherwise I would copy and paste the transcript. After checking I was told I had a “non-completed account”.
Netflix learned my life is full, very busy and I am severely Anti-American when it comes to pressured sales techniques and Netflix should forget about me completely like I do not exist.
I suspect Netflix staff cannot understand someone like me refusing an improved American lifestyle.
I being a cheapskate and never paying for what I can get for free, feel so disappointed that I can not send you cafe dwellers the complete link of my favorite movie of all times.
Managed to see it at least 10 times, on TV, on the tube, but not finding the free link anymore…
Le Grand Bleu ( The Big Blue), Luc Besson is the movie about the secrets and longing for the freedom and the unknown…
For all, and especially for the poet Ioan, at least I can send the intro scenes, so beautiful.
Time to buy the CD, shame on me….
For all and especially for Ioan : get better dear friend from the cafe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGa6SbK1HcY
@ Serbian girl, we the normal people here ( Croatia) are on your side as we understand the situation, it is a similar situation in this little colony but local people are not so brave – more like serf-like, unfortunately…
Take care and stay well, ‘cuvaj se, draga SD’.
Good night
… a free movie … looks good …
The Big Blue | [ShebaFilms] …
https://vimeo.com/78255743
Thank you azra, very kind of you thinking on us here in the cafe and also thanks Paul for being here. I’m so proud of you guys and gals, you show so much love and strength, so much compassion and good will, so much spiritual value and freedom of thinking combined with the need of sharing your knowledge in the name of brotherhood and hope in a better world !
As once Dennis used to say, I love you all !
… some good news … for Russians …
Anti-vaxxers rejoice! Any future coronavirus vaccine will be VOLUNTARY, says Russian health minister
https://www.rt.com/russia/494250-coronavirus-vaccine-voluntary-russia/
According to the health ministry, vaccinations in Russia can only be given with a citizen’s expressed consent.
What is happening in Serbia really? I don’t trust any site but this for analysis. In the greater psych op of the anti thing-ee terror response, why riots in Serbia at this moment in time?
I’m no expert, but my personal “pick” at this moment in time, with the information we have, is that it is because Vucic is moving Serbia to be closer to Russia.
His recent attendance at the 75th Memorial to the Patriotic War, and his moves to extend ties with Putin and Russia will have the Globalist Cabal up in arms and trying to say “just remember what we did to you last time you defied us. We can get to you, any time, any place. This is your warning”.
Well, at leats know the SoB’s can’t bomb the place to bits anymore.
That should read “at least we know”. Apologies for poor proof reading there :-)
No. It might actually be the opposite. The protests are massive, not organized by any political party, many opposition leaders were attacked when they tried to join the protests. Vucic is a Western puppet and he owes the Americans his coming to power. From sufficiently reliable sources, Vucic has had a very unpleasant meeting with Lavrov recently in which Lavrov told him Russia won’t allow history in the region to be falsified. Speaks volumes. The regime-controlled media are now openly accusing Russia (sic) to be behind the protests. Vucic called the protests ‘fascist’ and accused foreign intelligence services. Today, the US embassy implicitly backed the Vucic regime. All this is happening while new Kosovo talks are being held, though the June 28th negotiations in Washington have failed. Vucic has promised the West to get it over and done with Kosovo and legalizing Western policy in the region. Vucic is not moving Serbian closer to Russia. He had refused to give diplomatic status to Russian humanitarian center in Nis and he had signed the IPAP treaty with NATO.
Thanks for the correction – I was taking my impression only from the meetings with Putin I have seen reported and his presence at the Patriotic War Memorial.
In that case – I’m not arguing with you, you probably know better than I – but given your analysis of the situation in Serbia, can you suggest what provoked the protests then? And I agree – they are huge!!
Is this really over the Kosovo issue and the US backing? And not about the proposed Covid lockdown? Are Serbs angry about that – and if so why did he get elected over the clearly US backed puppet the US put in before him.
Like Teranum, I’m finding it a confusing situation :-)
It’s certainly very confusing for now. I wouldn’t say it’s overly about Kosovo, the spark that ignited the process was Vucic’s public humiliation of everyone via his erratic, insulting, and frankly, schizophrenic, public addresses. The govt. mishandled the corona crisis. First they ended the lockdown to stage elections, revoked all measures virtually overnight, and likely falsified and suppressed the data about number of people infected and those who died. After they won their election (no opposition party anymore in the parliament, not even de jure) they changed the tune, began releasing true data about no. of deaths and Vucic threatened a new lockdown in Belgrade. His team of ‘medical experts’ keeps giving contradictory, imbecilic, and frankly, ridiculous statements about the virus. His own party officials partied and celebrated election win without masks while govt officials keep lecturing citizens how irresponsible they are and that they are basically cattle. Then police brutality came and many people who weren’t violent were beat up.
You guys have wrong information.
People of Serbia simply had enough of A. Vuqiqi (Albanian spelling for Vučić), a sociopath and habitual liar, a criminal who sold everything worth selling in Serbia, whose own brother had Interpol warrant after him (until mysteriously revoked), an anglo-zionist stooge who demeaned Serbian national character, history and morality, whose main advisor is blood soaked Tony Blair.
Latest demonstrations were spontaneous, disorganized, largely social media driven. Vuqiqi was ready and his special police units and paid football club hooligans easily infiltrated demonstrators, and provoked forceful and violent crowd dispersal using CS gas, batons and rubber bullets.
People were on the streets two nights in a row, and today are gathering again, with one difference. Majority of demonstrators announced it will be a sitting protest, to clearly demarcate infiltrators from citizens.
There are no meaningful opposition parties in Serbia, pretty much all are corrupted and compromised. For a change, there is a talk of forming National Salvation Government, by experts and not political parties.
And there is the matter of Kosovo and Metohija, heart of Serbian territory still occupied by NATO and ruled by criminal warlords, and traitorous past behaviour of Vučić in regard to internal and international status of KiM.
Serbia may be in for a bloody summer.
Thanks for some more information. We dont get much information direct from small nations like Serbia – so it’s valuable to hear another perspective.
Also – I had no idea of the background of the man, nor of his behaviour in Serbia. Poor Yugoslavia, poor Serbia. Their territory wanted by Global Cabal criminals, Clinton a psychopath just directs innocent civilians bombed, and still today they live under that sick cloud and around that massive US centre for domination and destruction.
Where ever those SoB’s go, they leave such clearly recognisable footprints and spoor. Death, destruction, misery and despair. The marks of the Beast.
I confirm the information from Mairon and Katamaranac.
The people were protesting peacefully and suddenly hooligans showed up. Then the police crackdown violently.
For latest news
Twitter:
#belgradeprotests
#ćaleovojezatebe
#dadthisisforyou
Thanks for the twitter tags… How does the Serbian army stand in all this? I remember that the Ukie army’s top brass had their salaries paid by the USA…
Serbian army is not a factor. Unlike Ukraine, which inherited a large post-Soviet army, as well as a lot of Soviet era weaponry, Serbian army is under 30,000 strong, badly equipped and a shadow of its former self. All of Serbia’s institutions have collapsed, though the army was systematically destroyed since 2000.
Teranam,
Yesterday in Serbia, 63rd Airborne Brigade of Serbian Army refused a direct order to deploy against peaceful demonstrators in the city of Niš, issued by Serbian minister of defense, A. Vulin.
After signing the IPAP treaty with NATO in January 2015, where Serbia literally abrogated its military and territorial independence, President Vuqiqi cleansed its armed forces from any officer with suspected ties or sympathies for Russia, or documented objections against NATO membership. Hundreds of high level officers were removed or forced to resign.
Serbia used to be one of the major European arms manufacturers, in some cases world leading products: long range NORA howitzers, small arms, field mortars, superior T-80 tanks. Most of it is dismantled under NATO auspices. Serbian soldiers, all of them professional, are on minimum wage. Disarmed and humiliated by their new masters who bombed their motherland back to pre-industrial age in 1999. Fully encircled by mortal enemies, from Wahhabis in Bosnia and Serbia’s southern regions of Presevo, Bujanovac, Medvedja and Kosovo, NATO in Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary. Don’t forget Croatia, where Serbs were last ethnically cleansed in August 1995, when more than 150.000 Serbs left their generational homes.
Yet, Serbian Army may yet to prove it is capable of rising from the ashes, to become guarantor of peace during the Interim Expert Government, after inevitable abdication of A. Vučić.
I don’t know how much this contributed to a revolt and protests, but Serbia will start with a mandatory vaccination against flu, which will include children. If I understand correctly, corresponding laws were passed already four or five years ago and now is a good opportunity for the government to put those laws in use. Vucic announced that they will vaccinate against a flu all medical workers, the army, people who work at the counters, children between 3 and 12 years old and all chronically ill people. The aim is, according to Vucic, to prevent a collision of a flu and a coronavirus.
Consider the victory to the two Russians….Petr Aven and Mikhail Fridman affiliated with Moscow’s Alfa Bank in British court that I brought up yesterday…
/moveable-feast-cafe-2020-07-05/#comment-829384
.each being awarded a judgment of !8,000 British Pounds against Russiagate dirty trickster Christopher Steele……. just yesterday………….. in the context of today’s LPAC Lead:
https://larouchepac.com/20200709/smash-coup-against-trump-save-presidency-and-nation
and particularly THIS NEW US—Russian—-AND British potentiality:
“In the midst of this great crisis and this great opportunity, on Tuesday, June 30, Britain’s Tory Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, in a speech entitled “Build, Build, Build,” announced what he called a “New Deal” of infrastructure-building, science, education, healthcare and reindustrialization for Britain. His second-in-command, Michael Gove, made it clear that the Johnson government would model its policies on those of Franklin Roosevelt, along with current U.S. science-driver programs such as ARPA and DARPA. All this may seem to be a great surprise coming from the party of Margaret Thatcher in the metropolis of the still-surviving British empire, but Lyndon LaRouche had understood that the unexpected British “Brexit” vote in 2016 to quit the European Union, which produced the Johnson government, was of a piece with the unexpected election victory of Donald Trump later that year. While we can’t predict what will happen in Britain, we can say with certainty that the Johnson government’s express commitment to FDR’s American system, can immediately be used to inspire the American people and President Trump to do what must be done immediately here, provided we fight for exactly that.
Neither the Johnson proposal nor our proposal will gain the necessary speed or durability now, following the shutdown of the world’s economies, unless there is an agreement on fixed exchange rates, ensuring long term investment in high intensity capital goods and productive jobs at decent wages throughout the world’s economies. LaRouche called for a New Bretton Woods, initiated by Russia, China, India, and the United States, the four economies with the economic strength to strip the City of London and Wall Street of their most potent weapon, manipulation of currencies and terms of trade for short term financial advantage. Johnson’s proposal means that the P5 summit proposed by President Putin could start the road to LaRouche’s Bretton Woods.”
In my view, it is in this context that the Nice English Lady’s proposal to review Starikov’s Rouble Nationalization: The Way To Russia’s Freedom
http://lit.md/files/nstarikov/rouble_nationalization-the_way_to_russia's_freedom.pdf
is most timely. in terms of involving the minds of the governed in comprehending and influencing the minds and actions of their national leaders…..including but not limited to Valdimir Putin, Donald Trump …AND Boris Johnson.
And in that context, the second course by my student of Hamilton, will be served up next.
Not “everything is possible”. But a great deal is possible today, and even much more will become possible tomorrow that could scarcely be hoped for….. or even imagined one year, one month..OR .even one week ago.
Well if we want to launch a truly terrible and raunchy pun/meme war,..check out this . And her last name is Klit…
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fired-ukraine-minister-dons-bikini-launch-new-party-fight-corruption-pants-wearing-idiots?utm_campaign=&utm_content=ZeroHedge%3A+The+Durden+Dispatch&utm_medium=email&utm_source=zh_newsletter
I, for one, should refuse to follow up on such an obvious cl-t-bait news article but her articles of clothing and her
minister of interior positioning was just too much of a temptation.
i want to share two proverbs which though local to my native country which is in Africa, yet still can be understood by every human. The first proverb goes like this” Somalis (and all humans) tell lies, but do not proverb it” which means all of their proverbs (and all human proverbs) are pure truth. The second proverb states ” Truth never catches up with a runaway lie” the reason i remembered these proverbs is because a watched a video by Jimmy Dore displaying Dr Fauci saying live what amounts to that he lied about the mask and its effectiveness in prevention of this covid19 thing. i tried to tell an optician i know who never takes it off that Fauci himself has admitted that he lied about the mask and the optician retorted back immediately that a voice was put over Fauci’s. He didn’t even ask to see the video. He stuck to the lie he had been given….. and my truth couldn’t catch up with it…… anyways here is the video link….. please watch it you’re going to enjoy it even if you still insist on wearing the mask.
https://youtu.be/Cq8iQ65p9B0
Excellent link. Thank you for that – yet another piece of proof that no-one who is forcing “wear a mask” really believes in it.
After all – no-one in the BLM riots is being forced to wear a mask, even if some choose to. No-one in the riots is being attacked for breaking their pointless “barrier social distancing”.
Everything Jimmy Dore says is accurate and verifiable.
And if they themselves know full well the utter futility – in fact the damage caused – wearing a normal mask for hours – it begs the question, does it not? Why??
Why, exactly, are they trying to force this on all of us. ???
Seems its being picked up at the beaches, bars and pools, and then spread by air conditioning. Oh the revenge of the creature feature comforts.
Modelling and prediction led to the unprecedented lockdowns. There has been a lot of contradictory information and rules which simply make no sense. Modelling is guesswork. Enough data wasn’t available so assumptions were made to produce these models. Now more data is available and has to be honestly analysed. The following article tries to do this. I think it’s worth reading.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/politics-influences-covid-19/5718129
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The problem with computer models – which first surfaced, if I remember rightly, in the Climate Change hoax – is that with them it’s a case of GIGO or what you put in, directly gets you what comes out. Thus you can, of course, put in what you want in order to get out what you’re looking for.
In fact, I read on one report on RT showing that the first computer model of the one used to shut down the world was proposed by a 14 yr schoolgirl for a school assignment !!!! Neil Fergusson even got beaten to this.
A nice report just turned jup in my email, complete with graphs.
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/horowitz-cdc-confirms-remarkably-low-coronavirus-death-rate-where-media?utm_campaign=Daily%20Newsletter%3A%20Horowitz%3A%20The%20CDC%20Confirms%20Remarkably%20Low%20Coronavirus%20Death%20Rate.%20Where%20is%20the%20Media%3F%20%28Uq5dzc%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJ3ZWxzaGdpcmxAeWFuZGV4LmNvbSIsICJrbF9jb21wYW55X2lkIjogIksydlhBeSJ9
Thanks for the link. Interesting report which should be getting a lot of attention. It won’t get any. I do like Greenmedinfo.
As you say – information that will be carefully buried by all MSM sites around the world – showing again how useless as a source of anything but disinformation they are.
I, too, have long taken Greenmedinfo, and got a lot of useful information from them. Sayer Ji has worked hard to bring good alternative information to the public especially on matters of health and related fields. I’ve always found them trustworthy.
Here again, it’s a case of “its what you can’t see that is doing the most damage” :
https://journal-neo.org/2020/07/10/cyberwarfare-britain-s-latest-choice-to-wage-war-blitzkrieg-style/
The bad news about the warfare going on in our midst and nary a murmer from the guys in charge. Vladimir Platov is an excellent writer and source of good information too – and unlike the only virus to come with it’s own PR team, this one is really scary.
https://www.axios.com/supreme-court-trump-tax-returns-ruling-33e74608-2261-4fbd-9100-f2e085af60b5.html
Supremes ruled 7-2 that trump’s financial records can be made available to NY investigators. Trump not thrilled.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-trump-decision
Trump’s possibly for resigning in return for a get out jail free card is looking as more of a possibility.
That Golden Boy
I spy with
my little eye,
A fire burning
in the sky!
Could it be that
Heaven above,
Is sending a sign,
is sending its love?
Could it be
that what I see,
Is meant for you,
is meant for me?
A fire bold
of purest gold;
Cupid’s dart
straight to my heart!
It must be this,
the Source of Bliss –
Has planned a coup
and sent me you!
I sing to Heaven
and earth my joy;
And thank the Lord
for that golden boy!
He’s come from Heaven,
that child of mine,
And with his love
My heart entwined!
He’s come to earth,
he’s heard my call,
And with his love
My heart enthralled!
That’s quite a song, a lullaby of Mary for Jesus, the divine coup of grace and truth for all people in evolution,
echoed across the world by men and women for their child, if its a girl baby, how so, then it is the mother to be of all goodness, the Divine Sophia !
I think Quite Frankly would like this, he is going to be a father in September, I will send it, and with others I have and love, and any tune can accompany the words, or paart of them any mum or dad on earth, can croon and rock their beautiful child.
…the divine coup of grace and truth for all people in evolution, echoed across the world by men and women
for their first child…” Thank you, anon, that’s exactly it. When love fills us to the point where everything else is gone, or relevated to secondary status. But its not confined to parents, it can be experienced in other ways as well, when we’re overcome with love and lifted to a state of grace through loving.
Mr. Rocco Galati filed 183 criminal and constitutional charges against the Ontario gov and Canadian gov.
Press conference at the office of Mr. Rocco Galati who represents the plaintiff VACCINE CHOICE CANADA
The complainants are suing the following defendants:
Justin, TRUDEAU, PM of Canada
Dr. Theresa TAM, Chief Doctor of Canada
Doug Ford, PM of Ontario
Christine ELLIOT, Minister of Health for Ontario
Dr. David WILLIAMS, Chief Physician for Ontario
The Attorney General of Canada;
The Attorney General for Ontario;
Her Majesty the Queen;
CBC / Radio Canada
https://www.facebook.com/104731914538977/videos/930764570720417/UzpfSTEwMDAyODgwMDczNjI3MTozODE5NTU3MTk0NDExMTY/?__tn__=%2CdlC-R&eid=ARC3ZhLxOJV_l_iLC7e8vzAZdv2rIFVnyqFytWD8HkzTH1AEIvF45sF5m7sLy2zv_BBmlo7oMGqT0XUC&hc_ref=ARQlzGSzNM065dbe3l54qmrKRKh8famigR0idkTb379zjcZMrqdSmOfYn8RW9Ml8Obs
Similar moves have been suppressed in Quebec but the fight is still ongoing.
yet another grave Putin mistake concerning Ukraine and Donbass:
Putin’s point man on Ukraine says unrecognized Donetsk & Lugansk republics will NOT join Russia
https://www.rt.com/russia/494267-lugansk-donetsk-not-join-russia/
By Jonny Tickle
“The idea of the two Donbass republics joining Russia has not been discussed, according to Dmitry Kozak, the deputy head of the presidential administration, focused on the relationship with Ukraine.
Donbass is home to two self-proclaimed states, the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) and the Lugansk People’s Republic (LPR). The two Ukrainian regions announced their independence following the Euromaidan coup in 2014. The two republics remain unrecognized, and Russia considers them to be Ukrainian territory.
Kozak’s comments came after Alexander Borodai, the former prime minister of the DPR, announced that the entry of Donbass into Russia was imminent. Borodai explained that the two republics are already “de facto” parts of Russia, but will soon be “de jure.”
In response, the Russian official explained that Borodai’s statements were not true, and the notion of integrating Donbass into Russia wasn’t even a topic of conversation.
“This is the sole opinion of the authors of these statements. At the state level, questions on this topic have never been discussed. We have not lost hope for a peaceful political settlement of the conflict. We are vitally interested in this,” Kozak said in an interview with news agency TASS.
On Monday, Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters he was unaware that the DPR and LPR could possibly become a part of Russia. Peskov however, noted that many people in the two self-proclaimed republics had been given a Russian passport.
The decision to provide them with Russian citizenship was made solely for humanitarian reasons, after these people had been abandoned by their own government and were put at risk of being killed,” he explained.”
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Is Putin scared much more more sanctions will be heaped on Russia? Is that why?
This is a very bad move by Putin, and he is once again appearing weak and trying to please USA?West. This is a major mistake, since the West/USA cannot be pleased. Dont tell me he is plying 5D chess, the conflict in Ukraine cannot stay frozen forever, Russia will totally lose when Ukraine eventually joins NATO as it is their aim. Putin should NOT have lost Ukraine AT ALL, this was the biggest mistake of his presidency.
Putin’s move, in regards to Donetsk & Lugansk, was 100% correct. Russia was not in a proper financial shape to feed, and rebuild these two regions. Germany is still paying for its reunification, and its economy is not under constant attack from every imaginable side.
Putin does not play 3 D chess. He does judo and mongoose like he will circle the cobra for years until he moves for the kill. Donbass is doing what it needs to do in the bigger picture and it is doing it well. I think one should look at how the Poles are planning to play Judas in this game, rather than re-hash over Putin and Donbass.
And afraid of sanctions ? Please look at what is happening in Looneylandia before you do more hand wringing causing me to worry about your mental stability. ( ok. moderators, I know, I know)
Yes, the conflict can stay frozen for a long time…never say never and never say forever.
My first hasty answer to Hoyeru was rightfully trashed by the moderators. ( grrrr. mars and sun in Aries…fight, fight, fight. !!!) Let us bathe in the waters of poetic expression such as it is.
Putin Projection
He doesn’t see it my way
hurl insults, taunts.
vent my dismay
Give it up.. we’re grown ups here!!
We’ve been here for years
witnessed the murders,
the sacrifice,
the tears.
Heroic Donbass
front lines they
hold fast
we honor their
courage, their will to
outlast
It’s a bigger war!
wisdom’s required
to understand,
hold ’til the last
So take a chill pill
look to your neighborhood
do the work there
to be understood.
Leave Russia
to Putin…
Donbass will survive
both emerge whole
and actually thrive.
No fear, my dear
keep on coming here
for folly to wisdom
all together, we’ll steer.
sorry,,,,the flow gets so strong ( Dimitar will understand). read that last line…
” from folly to wisdom,
all together we’ll steer.”
Hoyeru,perhaps you are new here, though I seem to recollect your name, but the gist of your comment has been presented on here many times in the past, and refuted basically as a lack of understanding of Putin’s skill and political resolve in dealing with crisis.
Saker at one time linked video’s by the Ukrainian historian, Buzimov ? I think he was killed along with other great hero’s maybe 2014-15, I don’t remember, but he was excellent and perhaps these are still available online.
I’m afraid Google search will not yield much joy, it would be great to have these posted again before all history is erased…. Books one can still find, but one must be interested and sincere enough to read them !
Maybe things are “known” but not spoken about(publicly)…..maybe a kind of ” independance” like Ossetia and neighbour….maybe waiting for an attack by Ukr to then protect them under humanitarian grounds thus proving the failure of Minsk …Normandy Four and the bonhomie projection of USA and Nato falsehoods…maybe wearing down The Ukraine to the point of absurdity which its own politics seems determined to do….
Maybe….maybe…..
A new virus which causes pneumonia and which has a higher mortality rate than COVID is breaking out in Kazakhstan
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3092563/chinese-embassy-warns-deadly-unknown-pneumonia-kazakhstan
Maybe there are just a set of environmental factors, some of which are nonnegotiable like 5G and we have these ‘viruses’ which function as an explanation/excuse not to mention a marketing ploy for Big Pharma/Big Research/Big Finance/Big Media/Big Grabbler.
Lilly, our sweet loveable and not real friend is back, but somehow her heart isn’t into it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXL93-2it-c
Steve and others, there is a lively debate, NOT on Hamilton’s work but on Miranda’s (who is on the wrong side of history…the Fake Left Side)….who wrote the musical…..”Hamilton”…and is NOT Alexander’s fault! LOL.
As such that article is merely an avoidance of the meat and potatoes of the matter, IMHO.
My comment there:
/hamilton-movie-central-banker-worship-proof-the-us-has-no-left/#comment-829845
By the way, I also read G Edward Griffith’s The Creature From Jekyll Island….and was slightly amused by how he got the 1913 Conspiracy details correct……but blundered seriously….in fact fumbled the ball on Hamilton THE principal framer of the US Constitution …who did by far the lion’s share of the work and organizing for the final product, The United States Constitution…that most anti-Hamilton dupes (if they are STILL patriots…) worship!
Justice often comes not in this world…but in the next one!
Though my friend was too busy to respond to anything about musicals and operas….I will collect all comments (yours especially…John 4 Truth’s) and maybe he’ll step up to the plate later……..before I attempt to get some of this into Starikov.
Anyway, onward and upward!
(I’m SO sure this Middle Course of Three will trigger many foreign America haters and domestic self-loathers that I can barely contain my anticipation! LOL)
Second Course, Hamilton Feast:
“Hamilton understood there was no way to isolate the United States from the world of finance AND become the “continental power” and “beacon of hope” for humanity that he and many of the founders envisioned for us. Without Hamilton’s system of political economy (meaning economics consistent with the tenets of the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution) he knew that the United States would remain the tobacco, peanut and cotton-picking backwater that Great Britain set us up to be, subject to reconquest at any time.
As for Mr. Starikov’s reference to Andrew Jackson and his battle against the bankers, it is the same old regurgitated and misinformed “know-nothing” prejudice espoused by Jefferson from the beginning. Admittedly Jackson, like Jefferson, is an interesting guy. A war hero and patriot, no doubt, but essentially woefully misinformed on modern political economy. All people are limited. Even good people. Jackson has his place in our history but not where Mr. Starikov thinks. Were it entirely up to Andrew Jackson and his fellow travelers on this subject, we’d be no more influential in world affairs than Canada, Australia or New Zealand today. Arguably these crown properties have benefited significantly from our independence in terms of relative autonomy. In short, attributing the attempted assassination of Jackson on the spurious idea that he was going to veto the renewal of the Bank of the US is plain wrong.
Mr. Starikov should consider, which he almost acknowledges in his confusion, that EVERY person of significance that was aligned with the Hamiltonian vision of finance and economy (i.e. the Federalist, Whig, Republican tradition) has been assassinated, starting with Hamilton himself, followed by Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, FDR and Kennedy. [I’d put FDR in the Lincoln tradition and Kennedy in the FDR tradition. FDR is a much more complicated personality in the overall scheme of things, but that is another subject].
The general distrust of the “moneyed interests” is basically the ultimate con-game played by the oligarchy. The fact is without a properly regulated system of finance, credit and speculation, there is no economy, at least not one worth more than a Russian salt mine. If you don’t believe me just ask the last author of the USSR’s 5-year Gosplan.
How credit is directed however is key to genuine economic growth. But that doesn’t mean directed as in central control of money by some public bureaucrat (commissar) but rather through laws, regulations, taxation and incentives to insure it lays the foundation for robust commerce, industry, technology and agriculture. The role of republican government is to simply foster a “harmony of interests” between the general population (human labor) and industry, agriculture and technology (capital).
Hence a well-regulated credit of a nation either increases the value of its currency by fostering a vibrant industry, agriculture, technology and commerce (infrastructure) or it’ll be devalued by the extent of its role in speculative activity in lieu of the former key sectors.
Keep in mind, however that speculation should never be eliminated from economic systems, as it is a necessary function to maintain equilibrium. Speculation in finance and the economy is akin to carrion in nature. Speculators are the scavengers of an ever-expanding system of genuine economic growth. Speculation brings the system (and its various sub systems) back to equilibrium by the “invisible hand” of self-interest (profit motive) if it is operating within the boundaries of genuine, wealth creating asset classes as stated above. Without such boundaries, speculation takes on cannibalistic characteristics. Smith’s invisible hand is real – the only issue is whether it’s picking your pocket or providing a fair value of exchange for some consideration. Hamilton understood this principle well as he was beyond the knee-jerk ideological handicaps of his Democratic-Republican opponents.
There is no argument that human nature is naturally inclined to seek pleasure (profit) and avoid pain (loss). To deny our biological wiring is utopian folly. This is the foundation of market-based economics going back several millennia. But there is no magic here. It is simply the way humans have operated commercially since the beginning of time. Adam Smith was no genius pointing this out. Our Founding Fathers, Hamilton most emphatically, were less interested in merely celebrating man’s base instincts, as Smith and his handler David Hume did, but rather to tap man’s best attributes (creativity) with a system of freedom while accepting man’s baser instincts (self-interest) to harness the greatest possible good. That captures the essence of the American System.
Hence a well-regulated currency and system of finance, combined with incentives and penalties (bounties, tariffs & taxation) combined with the general goal of fostering industrial, agricultural and population growth in a decentralized system of free commerce among our “united but separate” states, was the crux of the Hamiltonian economic system. ”
The Third Course will conclude the Hamilton Feast ………in the Moveable Feast Cafe.
No food fights please.
No, no food fights, swallow the unendurable pain and be silent.
Your choice, if you have nothing to say.
But lively argument is more conducive to discovery……….as every individual perspective is limited….and NO individual’s perspective is complete…………or The Last Word.
No pain, no gain! LOL
I am beginning to think that the conception of framers, are a new concept invented by the Democrat’s and as such represent their falsity, to set up falsely = to frame. Yes, in that concept Hamilton is a framer.
Otherwise he is not. Hamilton was an agent of the Rothschild’s in England, and as such a traitor so he framed the contitution in his way. The Rothschild’s obviously needed the USA more than anybody, the people could easily have preferred to have independence by a superiour model, their own states. Rothschild was interested in the land itself, they had bought large sways of America and needed the security of a Untied States government. Further Rothschild wanted the new land America for development, finance, businesses, banking, corporations, and so on, for his own enrichment in all those fields using agents in the land to do his biddings.
The Hamilton plan for a national government was indeed tailored to such a purpose. The president was to sit for life, so were the senators, an easily corruptable system for such conspirators, a system highly developed in Enlgand.
Previous comment may have been a bit harsh on your “truth”….John. So it may never appear.
So I will leave it with this, for now, from comment on Ramin’s “Musical Review”….Missing the Forest for the Leftist Trees article:
“………. though Alexander Hamilton was no doubt less privileged than 95% of us here…possibly including the author.??….(raised by a mother abandoned by his father….a mother who died while he was in his mid-teens on either Nevis or St Kitts)……. Hamilton did not choose as his “winning formula” the posturing as a victim…..of anything……… but rose meteorically to become the indispensable aide to General George Washington!
And yet people take Jefferson’s side!
Ridiculous! You don’t think Washington knew something 230+ years ago….. YOU still don’t know????”
George Washington was a mason, but it is possible that he was only a 3rd degree mason (master mason) . It is then possible that he accepted Alexander Hamilton as his aide since Hamilton was a high ranking mason that he was supposed to support. Other sources have claimed that George Washington were among the 32nd or 33rd degree masons of the founding fathers. In any case, they would support each other. They may have different parts in the work they were doing of course, and such work as the independence were also the work for the people of America that George Washington did. It is also clear however, that Rothschild of England wanted this work done, and of course a corruptable system of government as a constitution.
It is clear however, that Alexander Hamilton worked for the interests of the Rothschild syndicate, and that he probably was in their most secret club, the illuminati. Illuminati today is including stars of Hollywood, the music industry and so on, and this is hiding their more secretive operations or they simply have achieved their goals so they are just in hiding.
The original strategy of Adam Weishaupt who was financed by Rothschild who also is a member of the historic Bavarrian Illuminati:
How did Russia begin? is a historic account on Russia which I found on Youtube. Khan history is a very interesting account of history focusing on the Khanates history such as Djengis Khan and also the lesser known Timur dynasties (islamic, central asian) and also cover the islamic caliphates and Ottoman (islamic Turkey) .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P58tMgZ4v0A
I can contribute to the history of Rus a little because of a little known fact. Old Uppsala from where the chosen rulers of Russia had come, where not named Old Uppsala at the time. It was Aros. So the princes where “arossians” so to speak which came to be russians most of which is attributed to language differences and simplications. You can simply imagine the question:
Where are you from?”
answer: “Aros”.
question: ” ah? Rus?
answer: interpreted as “a (yes) Rus”
In any case it was simplified as Rus.
On RT I found an interesting statement by Lavrov. He explained that the us is destroying any nuclear arms regulation in order to regain global dominance. Lavrov said the us wants to win a nuclear war.
Many of us already knew what the us wants to do. But now it s official.
What Lavrov said:
“I agree that the nuclear risks have increased substantially in the recent past,” Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told an audience at the high-profile Primakov Readings forum on Friday.
The reasons for that are “obvious,” the minister clarified. “The US wants to regain global dominance and achieve victory in what they call a great power competition.”
Lavrov said Washington refuses the notion of “strategic stability” and calls it “strategic rivalry” instead. “They want to win,” he added.
We are particularly worried about the US’ biennial refusal to reaffirm a fundamental principle: the premise that there can be no winners in a nuclear war, and, therefore, it should never be unleashed.
The US/NATO empire entered the strategy of a first strike nuclear war by use of low-yield tactical nuclear weapons on the battlefields launched from forward US/NATO bases at their enemies borders, and in the case of UK from a will to start a nuclear war pre-emptively by first strikes.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-nuclear-weapons-first-strike-michael-fallon-general-election-jeremy-corbyn-trident-a7698621.html
https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/1801797/4-things-to-know-about-the-us-nuclear-deterrence-strategy/
The meaning of the term ‘tactical nuclear weapon’ is rather hazy to me. In fact, the first association I get is a bomb that says ‘sorry for the inconvenience’ before it explodes.
What it boiles down to is ‘nucleair primacy’, as promoted since 2006 in US/NATO surroundings – to be able (at least they think so) – to give such a first strike to a nuclear power, that its capabilities to strike back are nilled. Or will result in just a few miilion deaths that neocons don’t care about. Neocons drool about that. However, from a military point of view it’s delusional. If I remember correctly The Saker has written about it some time ago.
And it’s supported by Theresa May, a useless, powerless and childless politician from a country where they don’t even know at what side of the road they should drive.
They don’t realize what they put at stake. Just for even more money for the happy few.
Cheers, Rob
I see it as a nuclear threat by the anglo-american empire toghether. UK has now issued a first strike nuclear war ideology. But remember that they are in an alliance with USA called NATO. So NATO has an active first strike nuclear war ideology. So there is no way of underestimating that move by british Theresa May, a true servant of the Rothschild Syndicate and their organisations, a Rothschild Banker herself. So in terms of NATO ideology they may now strike with nuclear weapons and USA will complete the attack with low-yield tactical nuclear weapons. Russia will no doubt be able to retaliate releasing the full US attack with their nuclear arsenal. In this way they will be able to “win’ the war in their assesment after placing all these tactical nuclear weapons close to Russia’s borders. Which is of course the plan for the apocalyptic depopulation of the planet in case other means have failed – the Rothschild syndicate organisations, Rockefeller’s Club of Rome/Madrid Limits to growth, and UN Sustainable Development Plans. They are planning ahead. Russia of course have countered these plans by developing more advanced weapons.
The nature of the national socialist Chinese communist party.
The dicatorship of China, the insistence of compliance with their word trough Gloabl Times and CCTV as a total voice about China and its policies that they demand you must comply with as a the press. The opression and silence of critics, lifetime prison for opposition is common. Kidnapping of Swedish citizen Gui Minhai a publisher from Hong Kong that lived in Sweden is put behind bars indefinately. The dictatorship extend its arms to Sweden in daily affairs calling ministers to comply with their dictate. The latest affair concerns a kidnapping of a swedish/ex. Hong Kong chinese publisher Gui Minhai that was critical of their regime and silencing of his daughter in Sweden calling for his release.
Now China has put pressure on Sweden to quit the former Swedish ambassador to China from the charges of working on behalf of the Chinese communist party endangering Swedish national security.
Chinese spies representing the Chinese communist party was using former Swedish ambassador to China to silence Angela Gui, a swedish citizen, daughter of the Hong Kong chinese publisher Gui Minhai who was a Swedish citizen that had published critical articles about the Chinese communist party while living in Hong Kong. While on holiday in Thailand Chinese communist party agents kidnapped Gui Minhai and brought him to China where he is now imprisoned for life for publishing critisism of the Chinese communist party
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https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/just-nu-domen-faller-mot-anna-lindstedt/
https://www.expressen.se/dinapengar/anna-lindstedts-tarar-kinahaveriet-pa-ud/
(translate.google.com)
Well, most of us are only too aware of the control of CIA-Deep State of the Thai armed forces, interior police etc.–ever since Vietnam war when they assassinated Kennedy and started their world wide campaign for planetary dominance. ( or as Lavrov so aptly pointed out) domination.
Element of the CCP are only too willing to strike deals with these forces, too. Double games abound.
Russia Observe
© Patrick Armstrong Analysis, Canada Russia Observer
https://patrickarmstrong.ca/2020/07/09/russian-federation-sitrep-9-july-2020/
RUSSIA AND COVID
Latest numbers: total cases 707K; total deaths 10843; tests per 1 million 151K. Russia has done 22 million tests (third after China and USA); among countries with populations over 10M it’s second in tests per million and of those over 100M first. RT reports a survey finding that most Russian physicians are sceptical of the official numbers. Its counting rule is strict; a looser rule would create bigger numbers: I don’t take any numbers very seriously. (Vide chaotic UK counting.)
CONSTITUTION
Passed comfortably. The ads I saw varied between happy families and – the one projected on the US Embassy facade – in 1993 we were yours and now we’re ours. Sums up the main changes. As to the term reset many argue that it is designed to kill any succession in-fighting (or foreign fiddling): even if Putin quits after this term, he can still come back. I still see it as a cheap trick.
ESPIONAGE
Ivan Safronov
https://www.stalkerzone.org/selling-your-own-motherland-the-case-of-ivan-safronov/
was arrested on Tuesday and charged with espionage. The claim is that he passed information on weapons sales to the Middle East and Africa to Czech intelligence which then overing space and defence and had been hired by RosKosmos in May.The authorities say they had been watching him for several years (from which we can deduce that the information passed on was probably false – the Russians are very very good at this).
Meanwhile it has been officially denied that an exchange is been considered for Whelan (which, I guess, means that it either is or isn’t).
MH17 TRIAL
Hops along to its pre-ordained conclusion: “‘The relevant records relate to the years 1986 and 1987,’ the judge claimed. ‘In that light, the court does not see how interviewing this witness [Konashenkov] can contribute to the question of where a specific missile mentioned in that record is located‘”. So we’re not going to look at the provenance of the conveniently discovered missile bits; wouldn’t suit the guilty verdict. A farce.
DEJA POO.
Let’s make up a story that 1) keeps the Russia enemy theme going 2) can be used to harm Trump 3) will stymie negotiations to get out of Afghanistan and 4) fool the simple-minded. Should run for a week or two and then we’ll come up with something else. Meanwhile, in the real world, survivors or families are suing US companies that paid protection money to Taliban.
ICEBREAKERS
Russia starts an even bigger one. Russia dominates the icebreaker business.
WADA YA KNOW.
Der Spiegel dares to question the US/Canadian Russia mass doping story.
MORE SANCTIONS
The UK has just revealed new sanctions against Russians (and others). Moscow says it will retaliate.
AMERICA-HYSTERICA
Every time I think the insanity has reached the top, somebody shoves it up another notch, the “Lincoln Project” with this absurdity. But then that is surpassed by some Democrat politician: “Wakes up every morning, goes to be every night trying to figure out how to destroy American democracy.” And these people are spectacularly ignorant: Russia is bulging with new infrastructure; even the Moscow Times reports it. Americans get in a tizzy over their enemy du jour but when they kill him (Qaddafi, Hussein) or jail him (Milosevic) they calm down. How much more frenzied can they get?
NEW NWO
Interesting poll about COVID: about half the Europeans polled thought the EU had been irrelevant; 60% said they thought less of the US than before. The pollster concluded that “Europeans have lost faith in the United States in its power and competence to lead the world”.
BIO-LABORATORY
In Tbilisi. What’s the story? Russian Foreign Ministry expresses concern. Russian disinformation. Perfectly OK says Washington. Sinister purposes say other Americans. Even creepier says investigative reporter. I don’t know, but if the purposes are benign, why can’t they be done at home? Fauci-funded gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan?? USAF admits to collecting Russian genetic material?? Some serious questions here, I think. Certainly one could understand Moscow and Beijing taking a mistrustful view.
EUROPEANS ARE REVOLTING
Nordstream advances. Washington contemplates sanctions, Berlin, committed to it, bites back. Merkel says Europe has to prepare for a future in which USA not a world power. Schroeder says the sanctions would mark the “definite termination of the Transatlantic partnership“. Copenhagen gives approval for the final bits. An important defiance of Washington’s diktat.
U.S.A. Police MESS
https://www.stalkerzone.org/on-the-loose-in-russia-a-police-officer-who-escaped-from-the-us-about-what-is-currently-happening/
On the Loose – in Russia: A Police Officer Who Escaped From the US About What Is Currently Happening
Former American police officer Dougan became an outcast at home when he started to denounce the US law enforcement system.
His name is John Mark Dougan.
He was a police deputy in South Florida. As Dougan explains, he joined law enforcement when he got bored with office work: he graduated from the police academy and was hired by the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Department, where he served for 6 years.
But at some point he decided to go against the system – according to him, everything started spinning when he told the management that there were facts of abuse of authority by the police – beating of innocent people (including, by the way, blacks), fabricated criminal cases in which illegal arrests were made, and so on.
However, everything turned out exactly the opposite: at first, the police department tried to hide the problem, and when Dougan pressed for a thorough investigation, he was put under pressure.
And that’s when the rebellious cop decided to lift the lid: he created a website where under the nickname “The Bad Wolf” and started to push for the truth, publishing stories that were sent to him by current and former police officers from all over the country, about violations of the law – who plants drugs, falsifies cases, in general – commits official crimes, and how.
The project was a real bomb. But its creator himself was outlawed. And they started hunting for him…
Журналистская Правда
https://jpgazeta.ru/
USE YOUR TRANSLATION TOOLS
On a world without the Broken States of America
I was planning to write on the topic “A Future World in Which America Will Not Be Dominant,” but then I came across an article in Bloomberg, where Americans express their delusional vision of the future.
https://jpgazeta.ru/aleksandr-rodzhers-o-mire-bez-raskolotyh-shtatov-ameriki/
Their article itself is frankly stupid and boring, full of contradictions such as “Russia is not a great country, but bends NATO and the USA” or “Liberal democracy is in crisis, but Putin threatens our wonderful ideal democracy.”
However, she still encouraged me to express my thoughts in text form. There must be at least some use for the Americans…
A black day for being hired by Khodorkovsky and his presumptuous officials !!!
https://jpgazeta.ru/aleksandr-rodzhers-o-mire-bez-raskolotyh-shtatov-ameriki/
oday, a number of searches and detentions have taken place throughout Russia. The attention of law enforcement agencies today was focused both on “opposition politicians and journalists” (read – the organizers of the riots), as well as on some fined officials.
Early in the morning, the Investigative Committee raided members of the Open Russia organization, which was recognized as undesirable in Russia.
Searches were conducted… Olga Gorelik, coordinator of the organization, Tatyana Usmanova, coordinator of Open Russia, as well as Sergey Prostakov, chief editor of MBH Media. Both Open Russia and MBH Media are the projects of runaway oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who has long been working to destabilize the situation in Russia.
Khodorkovsky was lucky some countries would have terminated him as a traitor. This is like buying seats in the US congress for North Korea. The West did little reporting on these aspects.
This is long and from a stock investing board or What We Do In The Shadows.
Monday, December 29, 2003 9:24:15 PM
Another problem connected to YUKOS—the issue of buying seats in the Duma—has been noticeably less discussed. YUKOS is accused of not limiting its lobbying to “one-time” deals, but generously “sponsoring” various parties to cobble together its own Duma “faction.” Other oligarchs do similar things, but not on the same scale as YUKOS. Even if the numerical estimates of big business’ penetration of parliament are highly exaggerated, something serious needs to be done immediately. We believe that this should be done systematically, by adopting laws that severely limit both large contributions to party coffers from both major corporations and individual lobbyists.
http://www.gateway2russia.com/st/art_164082.php
This is how generously they were sponsoring.
The Russian president and the former secret police members who now dominate his staff struck at Khodorkovsky when it became clear that the billionaire was preparing to spend $100 million to win a large bloc of seats in Duma elections next month and eventually to run for the presidency himself. Putin’s idea of democracy seems to be holding elections
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/147219_hoagland7.html
Exxon Mobil originally meant to buy a controlling interest in Yukos, only later did they back down to 40%.
Therefore the merger in its original intent would have given Exxon Mobil, a foreign entity, seats in Duma.
The sovereignty of Russia was being challenged albeit in a small way but nevertheless a precedent Putin could not ignore. The laws should be changed. Khodorkovsky was plotting against his own country.
Kremlin Playing Oil Game For Keeps
Monday, Dec. 29, 2003. Page 1
By Catherine Belton
Staff Writer
Eric Draper / bloomberg
Bush discussing developments in the Middle East with Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah on March 30, after America invaded Iraq.
News of the July arrest of Yukos co-founder Platon Lebedev was greeted with disbelief and excitement in Saudi Arabia, a kingdom increasingly nervous about losing its market-maker status in the global oil industry to long-time rival Russia.
According to a source close to OPEC in Riyadh at the time, the Saudi royal family moved within days of the arrest to capitalize on the apparent sea change in Kremlin policy, approving the first official visit to Moscow by a crown prince in 71 years.
“The arrest was seen as confirmation that the Russian government was building a policy independent from the United States,” the source said. “Before then, they feared Moscow was boosting oil output at Washington’s bidding. They saw a window of opportunity to engage Russia in longer-term co-operation. They saw a sign that Russian government was moving to slow down production growth,” he said.
“That level of dialogue would not occur if the Arabs did not see Russia as being independent from America.”
Indeed, through the legal onslaught against Yukos, in particular the jailing of Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Russia’s richest man and its most influential pro-American voice, President Vladimir Putin has clearly defined the new rules of the game. In doing so, Putin is not only increasing the power of the state domestically, he is also repositioning the state geopolitically.
As the rest of the nation’s oligarchs quake and rush to toe the Kremlin line, the wheels have been set in motion for a shift toward greater state control of business, particularly over the commanding heights of the economy, the peak of which is the oil sector.
Putin, it seems clear, is intent on restoring Russia’s clout on the world stage, and a key plank in this new plan appears to be nourishing the defense sector with energy revenues, setting the stage for a tectonic shift in the political and economic landscape.
It’s All About ‘Values’
The most common explanation for why the Kremlin chose to go after Khodorkovsky and not the other tycoons is politics, that he was funding opposition parties and trying to buy a stable of loyal lawmakers.
But no less irritating to those in power is Khodorkovsky’s pursuit of what is essentially an independent foreign policy, including pushing for privately owned pipelines to ramp up exports and quench U.S. thirst for a non-Saudi supplier. He has also cultivated and endeared himself to some of the most influential policymakers, politicians and businessmen in the West.
Although the official Washington line is that America is worried about what Khodorkovsky’s arrest means for democracy in Russia, the question of what it means for oil prices and supplies is not far behind.
U.S. President George W. Bush called Putin twice this month to raise concerns about where Russia is headed, according to a senior State Department official. On Dec. 1, Bush called to express concerns about whether the rule of law was being used selectively. Then, after pro-Western, pro-market parties collapsed in the Dec. 7 State Duma elections and were replaced with nationalist factions that ran on an anti-oligarch platform, he called again.
“We want to develop a strong and positive relationship with Russia. That’s going to be easier for us to do if Russia is moving down a democratic path,” the U.S. official said.
“There is concern about this after the [Organization for Security and
Cooperation in Europe’s] findings on the election. There is a concern that it
did not meet the standards it could have.”
The OSCE issued a scathing report criticizing the parliamentary vote because of what it said was the unfair use of administrative resources and the media monopoly given to pro-Kremlin and nationalist parties.
“If we have a divergence on values issues that could impose some limitations on [the U.S. Russia partnership],” the official said. “We are trying to engage and have a dialogue on values issues so that the gap does not increase.”
The Khodorkovsky case is also a major concern, the official added.
“We’re still trying to understand what the Khodorkovsky case means: whether it is just about Khodorkovsky or the first step in a broader effort to gain a greater hold on economic players … such as the energy sector,” the official said. “It’s not clear enough yet to make a judgement.”
“The hope is that this plays out in a way that is not a threat to developing a market economy. This is the kind of environment that would be most attractive to foreign investors. [Foreign investment] is going to increase Russia’s ability to export [oil].”
The concern is that a group of Kremlin hawks called the siloviki, former KGB men who are not known for their love of America or the free market, could seek to use the Khodorkovsky case to increase their leverage over the economy and over policy.
“There is a group within the Kremlin that is looking towards perhaps greater influence for the federal government [over the economy]. How far that goes and how far that influences their view towards the U.S. remains to be seen,” the official said.
Playing Chicken
As the investigations into Khodorkovsky and Yukos grind on, so do the chances that the fallout could unravel the fragile market economy and threaten Russia’s ties with the West.
The fear is that longer Khodorkovsky sits in jail, the greater the chances the situation might spin out of Putin’s control, giving the siloviki greater power to confiscate assets.
“A game of chicken is going on between Putin and Khodorkovsky,” said Chris Weafer, chief strategist at Alfa Bank. “The longer this goes on, the bigger the risk that Putin will lose control of the situation. The longer it goes on the more chance something will happen — asset seizures — that will ruin the investment case.”
In recent weeks, the pressure has mounted.
A team of some 300 investigators has arrived in Moscow from the regions where Yukos is active to help with the investigations. And, in what appears to be an attempt to push Khodorkovsky into making a deal, Tax Ministry reports have been leaked claiming the company owes $5 billion in back taxes. Also hanging over his head, many observers say, is the possibility that prosecutors will pursue a conspiracy to murder charge in addition to the tax evasion and fraud charges. A mayor in Nefteyugansk, where Yukos has one of its main production units, was shot dead in 1998 just days after he complained to the Kremlin that Yukos was not paying its taxes. Khodorkovsky denies any involvement.
With each passing day, analysts say, the danger rises that the state will try to take back the assets Khodorkovsky won in controversial privatization auctions nearly a decade ago, raising the specter of a rollback of market reforms.
Some $9 billion worth of Yukos shares already have been sequestered by prosecutors as “collateral” for Khodorkovsky’s alleged crimes.
“It seems like Khodorkovsky is trying to goad Putin into taking even stronger action,” Alfa’s Weafer said. “It seems like he’s sitting in jail, saying go ahead destroy my company, but you’ll take everything else down with you.”
Putin’s recent behavior adds credence to this view. On Tuesday, the same day as a Moscow court extended Khodorkovsky’s stay in jail another three months, a visibly tense Putin indicated for the first time that the Yukos affair might not be an isolated case and threatened action against other oligarchs that gained their wealth in fraudulent privatizations if they did not toe the line.
Prior to those remarks, Putin had repeatedly stressed — in public and in private meetings with Western bankers — that the attack on Yukos and its parent company Group Menatep was is an isolated attempt to impose law and order and does not pose a threat to market reform.
Indeed, analysts say, there appears to be a personal animosity between Putin and Khodorkovsky that started long ago and has grown more intense in the last year.
Pipelines and War
Early this year, as the government began to block Khodorkovsky’s efforts to build Russia’s first privately-owned pipeline, the oil tycoon began to publicly lash out at the Kremlin for what he claimed were its intention to impose bureaucratic “Saudi-Arabian-style” rule.
Then, on March 20, a day after America went to war against Iraq, he publicly sided with the Americans, saying the campaign would be beneficial to Russia’s economy. More galling to the Kremlin, he also criticized the government’s opposition to the war, saying that aligning with France and Germany was “not in our interests.”
Backing the war was one thing, but attempting to build private pipelines was a far more serious matter and appears to be one of the main causes of Khodorkovsky’s troubles. It was certainly a policy that was essential for a U.S. drive to mold Russia as an alternative supplier of crude, one free from the restrictions other major suppliers in the increasingly unstable Arab world imposed to control prices. It was a policy, however, that was a direct threat to one of the state’s few remaining levers of control over the nation’s oil billionaires, and was seen as a direct threat to state sovereignty.
“Building privately owned pipelines was clearly an important issue for the U.S.,” said Julia Nanay, senior energy analyst at the Washington-based Petroleum Finance Corporation. “It is important for the U.S. to have certainty with respect to pipeline access, and for them to gain upstream access. Without private pipelines the Russian government is free to decide how much oil gets to the market,” she said.
“State ownership of the network gives the government OPEC-style control over exports.”
Looking Pretty
When Putin came to power in 2000, Khodorkovsky was just beginning to make himself look good. Despite running roughshod over the interests of minority shareholders, attempting to lock them out of shareholder meetings and allegedly whisking company profits to offshore zones, a top-dollar makeover of both himself and his company quickly made him the poster boy for how U.S. capitalists wanted to see Russian capitalism develop.
His image adorned the front pages of most of the West’s business glossies. A special edition of Business Week even pictured him alongside U.S. National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice in an article about global leaders of the future.
“Khodorkovsky in particular was seen as having turned a corner,” said Michael McFaul, an expert on Russian politics and its relations with the United States at Stanford University. “He was seen as a pioneer in pushing for transparency and for pro-Western values.”
Sending a pioneering tanker of Russian crude to Texas ahead of the first U.S.-Russian Energy Summit may have caused some consternation in the Kremlin, but it won him plaudits and meters of column space in the Western press. His tale of personal redemption was so convincing that United Financial Group CEO Charles Ryan and other investment bankers were calling for the “Yukosization” of the nation. Khodorkovsky became so popular, and seemingly invincible, that he began to contemplate political power and pushed for the creation of a parliamentary republic.
There seemed to be no slowing the man down. Yukos surpassed LUKoil as Russia’s top producer at the beginning of the year, and a few months later announced that it was buying smaller rival Sibneft. That takeover, derailed last month at the last minute, would have created Russia’s first oil supermajor and turned Khodorkovsky into a truly major global player.
On top of it all, Khodorkovsky was preparing to sell a large stake of Yukos — with or without Sibneft — to a U.S. oil giant, reportedly either ExxonMobil or ChevronTexaco.
Washington was in love.
A Seat at the Table
In no time, Khodorkovsky had gone from robber baron to just plain baron, gaining access to the most powerful and influential people in Washington, including Bush’s wife, father and vice president.
In June, just days before Lebedev’s arrest, he rubbed shoulders with Vice President Dick Cheney while attending the American Enterprise Institute’s World Forum, a conference for the world’s business and political elite run by former U.S. President Gerald Ford. At the Beaver Creek, Colorado, powwow, he attended an exclusive dinner for 15 people, one of which was Cheney, according to a source close to Khodorkovsky. He was the only Russian invited.
Earlier in the year, Khodorkovsky attended a lavish reception organized by Laura Bush at the Library of Congress and ate dinner at the same table as Condoleeza Rice. Again, he was the only Russian invited.
Although Khodorkovsky had no private meeting with these people, according to the source, it was widely reported that he did meet one-on-one with Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham less than two weeks after Lebedev’s arrest.
Greasing the Wheels
The oil baron actively sought to join the exclusive club of global shakers and movers. In 2000, as he began his corporate clean-up drive, he turned to Lord Jacob Rothschild, a key member of the influential banking dynasty that for centuries has been seen as the maker or breaker of governments around the world.
According to several sources close to the matter, Rothschild agreed to introduce him as a “debutante” to the world’s ruling elite of financiers and politicians. By December 2001, Rothschild and Khodorkovsky had launched the Open Russia Foundation, a philanthropic organization aimed at promoting ties between Russia and the West. Other heavy hitters moved on board too — U.S. foreign policy guru Henry Kissinger and former U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union Arthur Hartman joined the foundation’s board of trustees.
It’s not clear how deep Khodorkovsky’s ties with Rothschild go. Russian media widely speculated that Rothschild was in line to take over the reins of Group Menatep, the holding company for the assets of core Yukos shareholders, as the last link in an emergency chain of command — reports that Menatep, after months of refusing to comment, eventually denied. A spokesman for Rothschild said the lord had no business relationship with Khodorkovsky.
However, there are signs of financial links between the two.
According to its own web site, Menatep made commitments to invest in excess of $150 million with a number of global investment funds, including Global Asset Management, an influential investment fund founded by Rothschild in the early 1970s. The report did not specify how much exactly went to Global Asset Management.
Bush and the Pentagon
Menatep courted other powerful funds with its oil billions too, investing over $300 million in the Pentagon-linked Carlyle Group, according to a source close to Carlyle.
That’s no small change for a fund that manages some $17 billion in assets, and it’s more than Chukotka Governor and Sibneft oil tycoon Roman Abramovich paid for the Chelsea soccer club, a move that was also seen as a PR bid to shore up ties with the Western establishment.
Certainly, investing that sort of money with the Carlyle Group, a defense industry insider that boasts former U.S. Secretary of State James Baker, ex-British Prime Minister John Major and, until recently, former U.S. President George Bush among its advisers, opens doors, the source said.
“[Gaining access to the Carlyle Group] means you’re with people who are sitting at the nexus of policymaking and money-making, people with their feet firmly planted in both worlds in Washington,” said the source close to Carlyle. “It means you can talk to a very small group of people and make sure your issues are heard. You can build up very meaningful relations on a personal level that go beyond business.”
Just over a month before Khodorkovsky was arrested, George Bush senior paid a visit to Russia in his capacity as a Carlyle advisor, stopping first in St. Petersburg before jetting off to Sochi to meet with Putin, who was vacationing with his family. On his way back home, he and Khodorkovsky attended a very select dinner in Moscow organized by Carlyle. The Moscow financial world was abuzz with unconfirmed reports that Bush had come to help negotiate the sale of a stake in Yukos to Exxon or Chevron.
It’s not clear what the older Bush talked about with Putin. Many investors dismiss the rumors of his possible bidding for Exxon or Chevron as overblown and unlikely for a man of Bush’s stature. Soon after Khodorkovsky was arrested, however, Carlyle called off plans to launch, together with oil-to-telcoms giant Alfa Group, its first private equity fund in Russia. Bush quit the group shortly thereafter. Carlyle spokeswoman Katherine Elmore-Jones said the 79-year-old former president had decided to retire.
Elmore-Jones could not confirm or deny the reported $300 million Menatep investment in Carlyle. She said she could not reveal how much investors had placed with the group, and pointed instead to a press release posted on the Menatep web site that said it had invested up to $50 million in various Carlyle funds in 2002.
It’s not clear, either, who was courting whom in this game. Khodorkovsky needed Western movers and shakers to help him launder his image and sell off his company for one of the handsomest profits in world history. But the West, too, stood to gain from the relationship by promoting an increasingly powerful oil baron who was promising to help give them access to Russian reserves and was lobbying for key projects while becoming a powerful statesman in his own right.
Either way, he had become a key figure for the West.
“Khodorkovsky was the face of Russian oil for the United States,” said Nanay of the Petroleum Finance Corporation. “In terms of the message he relayed when he came to Washington and his strategies for private pipelines and for a sale to a U.S. oil major, what he was doing was clearly in U.S. interests,” she said. “But now, after his arrest, this seems to be unraveling.”
Editor’s note: This is the first of two stories
http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2003/12/29/001.html
“Whoever is a Serb and of Serb birth,
And of Serb blood and heritage,
And comes not to the Battle of Kosovo,
May he never have the progeny his heart desires,
Neither son nor daughter!
May nothing grow that his hand sows,
Neither dark wine nor white wheat!
And let him be cursed from all ages to all ages!”
– Tsar Lazar curses those who are not taking up arms at the Battle of Kosovo.
Lazar of Serbia 1373–1389 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prince_Lazar_(Ravanica_Monastery).jpg
I’m not of the conspiracy type of people. But still, on the brink of the weekend, some funny thoughts crossed my mind.
There is a lot of speculation on the internet about developments around Ghislaine Maxwell, from nailing the Clintons, accusing Trump, being Arkancided, suicide by hanging using toilet paper to dying suddenly from Covfefe-19.
But let’s realize this. She is affiliated (at least I think so) to the Mossad, having at least tons of knowledge and I guess quite some disgraceful videos of powerful people (*they* would have been naive not to have done that, just as the then KGB had some nice videos of Yassir Arafat fooling around with young Rumanian boys). Such intel is valuable to some, and dangerous to others.
What do we think? That the Mossad and others will just sit idly by, muttering ‘oh my dear’, and let her talk?
Which boils down to my main thought: Has she been arrested at all? Did somebody seen any witness reports, any photos or videos of her? I just read stories and statements.
Could it be that she won’t leave her virtual cell ‘for her own safety’, yeah right, (in the meantime sipping a cocktail at the beach in Tel Aviv, sometimes complaining about the loud music of her spooky neighbour Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, or whatever this bloke calles himself now), just statements are being read, and this is just a freak show?
Did anybody sane actually see the bodies of Osama bin Laden or Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, and live to tell about it in a convincing way (that is, not in the way that Obama did at any State of the Union, read aloud a letter grabbed from his pocket in times of e-mail, from ‘an American citizen’, written by a WH Staff member)?
Maybe I’m dead wrong, I’d be the first to admit it when it appears so.
But the thought keeps tickling my mind, that maybe we are looking at a carefully staged theatre.
Cheers, Rob
She has had plenty of time to arrange matters in her life….presumably for some degree of survival……
In fact, it’s exactly The Skripal Saga all over again.
I commend The Duran – and I’ve been very critical of them recently, but one must give fair due – for resurrecting some discussion of this issue following a good article by Eric Zuesse. {Mr. Zuesse is proposing that the Skripals are in fact now dead}.
But cast our minds back to the very beginning – what did we ever have but statements made by Mrs. “Highly Likely is good evidence” May, then P.M. of the highly discredited UK Government.
No-one ever saw this pair “unconscious on park seat”. It was only reported they had been so seen, but the interested crowd of onlookers which always – and I do mean always gathers anywhere in England around any incident of a morbidly odd nature, have never been identified and trotted out over and over to repeat their observation.
We dont know they were “poisoned” by a “nerve gas”. We have even Alt-Med repeating this ad nauseum as if it were an established fact, giving meat to the Nazi propaganda instruction that if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth.
All we know, for a fact, is that they existed – daughter Yulia visited Papa Sergei; they left his house; and disappeared. Apart from a weird, scripted, brief video featuring Yulia and a coded fast phone call she managed to make to her cousin, they have not been seen or heard of since.
EVERYTHING else about them is Government statement, or those controlled by Government, or working for the Government, more accurately MI5 and MI6.
Once “they” have a play sheet that “they” are happy works for them, “they” repeat it over and over. It’s a known, demonstrated, characteristic of psychopaths!
So I’d say you have a good point, and I’m there with you – it does indeed, just like “The Skripal Saga” look like carefully staged theatre.
It is part one of a test Pam.-If we believe this nonsense maybe we will grant some credence to the rest of the upcoming designer bollockry.
Yes, certainly we get that impression – a testing of how far a boundary can be pushed.
It’s like that dumb “vagina hats” thing they did. Somehow demonstrating how they can control people by getting a crowd of very silly ladies to wear knitted bonnets supposedly representative of female genitalia and then prance down the street wearing them.
I wonder if they bet among themselves, how much further they could go, as in “I bet, here, listen, I bet I can get most of the world to walk about the streets wearing a face mask. Ahahahah. Yep”.
What worries me most though, is how they can do the opposite too. Just make something disappear. Skripals? Who are they? Never hear of them.
Assange? Who? apart from the Alt-Med – some of it – the world has forgotten a massive travesty of justice and attack on Freedom of Press.
Once you control media, you control people. Who needs power to make laws, when you have power to influence minds??
People used to disappear in Balkan countries, some Oriental ones, certainly Chile under Pinochet. We never thought it would happen to us, did we?
But it is. It is.
That is an amazing thought, Rob, are you a detective in your spare time ? Seriously, it’s the first time i heard that, perhaps we suffer Covid meltdown lockdown mental sleep…
I had already come to the conclusion that her arrest was staged, a preplanned section of a bigger operation of some kind. Right from the start after arrest she was dubbed in UK headlines as ‘ the former socialite turned whatever’ her role played down in other words.
She has requested bail $5m (£4m) because of ‘the risk of contracting coronavirus in jail,’ her lawyers have argued. ‘The British socialite was arrested on 2 July and is accused of assisting convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse of minors.’ (BBC News)
I’m not a detective, in my scarce spare time I’d rather like to dash through nature on my mountainbike ;-)
Maybe this is part of a deal, forged by parties involved.
In a world where bullets appear to make curves of 90 degrees in flight in a car, buildings collapse without being hit by an airplane, WMD are undisputedly true, Yulia Skripal ‘disappears’ while having a job, a house, and a boyfriend in Russia – people believe everything when solemny announced on a screen, just from the classification ‘official’ and/or ‘highly likely’. Scary, though.
Cheers, Rob
Lament for Constantinople: Ο Θεός ήλθοσαν έθνη/ O Lord the heathen are come (again it seems!!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGvMXgIr6js&list=PL4R0RQw-MPauf_EjMeHTKu_ug_MZQ0uTO&index=4&t=0s
Erdogan will most likely destroy Hagia Sophia.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/hagia-sophia-ottomans-are-back-orthodox/
This is hard to digest, i have never seen HS. Yet i feel the anger rising and my blood boiling.
Disclamer: i do not intend to jurt anyone’s religious feelings
The turks are saying that Justinian sold hagia Sophia to mehmet. They are showing some document in turkish written in roman script (ataturk era) and persian script (mehmet era) which probably states that justinian sold the cathedral to mehmet. Since i cannot read turkish, i dont know what are the contents of the document.
I have a two questions for the orthodox Christians,
1. can a cathedral be sold?
2. Did Justinian really sell the cathedral to mehmet and what do the orthodox sources say about it?
Mega Diesel Engines – How To Build A 13,600 HP Engine | Full Documentary …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlUWLCRZvLM
AMISTADES PELIGROSAS – me quedare solo ( AUDIO EN HQ) …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK4EdMeeQl8
Daniil Kvyat explained why he did not kneel as a sign of the fight against racism before the start
of the race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3HtgXjDE0k
Acts of vandalism as a sign of solidarity with blacks, as well as knee worship. The manifestations
of support for the Black Lives Matter movement are increasingly reaching the point of absurdity.
But there are those who believe that all this is too much.
You can change the video’s subtitles to English
Ευανθία Ρεμπούτσικα – Η ομπρέλα του Βοσπόρου by iuakoya …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On_CQMJvOTs
The very good journalist Elijah J. Magnier is posting today about Srebrenica. He is very strong on so many other subjects, but I am surprised that he doesn’t seem to have all the facts about what happened there.
@ejmalrai
8,372 people were exterminated by the ‘Butcher of Srebrenica’ Ratko Mladic in July 1995 and yet he still without a final verdict.
… crazy movie time …
When Pigs Have Wings …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfctWGQqtLw
I caught fleeting notice here in the waning July 8th Cafe of only days for each reviewer of Rouble Nationalization……. to compose their thoughts on N. Starikov’s 2013 book…and submit them in a few days.
That will be a scramble, but if necessary I will be content to read what others have to say…… or just attempt a rush job…and try to get in under the wire. I thought we were only about 10 days into a 20 day timetable, allowing time for a second read through………but no matter!
I also noted ioan was well enough to link Yellow Rose of Texas! I wish him good enough health to participate in the Rouble Reviewing!
His post reminded me of The Good Old Days of the Cafe………..where he was the Poetic Mainstay.
Back then, in anticipation of the End of Kissinger’s Petro-Dollar and FED Fakery turned to thuggish evil…especially …. since August 15th, 1971, I sought to introduce the highly relevant subject of Hamilton (no Ramin…..not the Musical….lol) slowly …….by providing some insight into the formation of his intellect and morality and life’s work…………. which was purposefully cut short be a Clear Agent of Empire (Burr) and therafter poisoned by Fake News of the last 2 plus centuries and all kinds of out of context fallacies of composition and slander.
I tried to do that through excerpts taken from the major poetic works of ALexander Pope…. keys to Hamilton’s early education and character formation:
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/articles/69379/an-essay-on-criticism
and
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44899/an-essay-on-man-epistle-i
Progress on the pathway to that destination, however, was more than a little delayed…..er….. “retarded” by our Dionesyan Denizen of Dylan….and the “Communal Sex” Attraction(??)/Distraction.
All of that Cafe History may not be immutably recorded on The Blockchain yet…but I assure newer Cafe patrons: It is ALL in the Vineyard Archives. LOL.
Meanwhile, Quite Frankly, my purpose is not to tick off Frank or John4 Red Shield Is the Only Explanation for Anything…………but to LINK Stalin’s Dilemma with that SAME SHIELD and how JOE was forced by reality, global warfare and very real Empire Intent to Dismember Russia and USSR ………………….to play with, dance with that Same Deviltry…through his “telephone” to London…..Maxim Litvinov.
My actual purpose in raising one of the toughest issues of American History for Americans (Like Frank, John…and MOST others, both past and present!) to grasp (and ditto for foreigners) is outlined in this comment earlier this Saturday morning:
/americas-sicilian-expedition/#comment-830387
History not dry econometrics is the main substance of Rouble Nationalization: The Way to Russia’s Freedom
And there is a direct correlation between Washington’s Dilemma as first president of a Union of bankrupt, heavily indebted “states” that were just recently Colonies of the Crown….and Joseph Stalin’s reluctant, but necessary “time buying” use of undeniable London (Rothschild!) Agent…..Maxim Litvinov.
Or Putin’s careful maneuvering around the constraints imposed by the Russian Central Bank today…or Trump’s optimistically reported putting of the FED under the authority of the US Treasury……and basically running the FED aground…right before and around Nov 3 2020……onto the rocks of balance sheet insolvency and some sort of Audit…and repudiation (??) of the People’s Debt to It???
I don’t know how that’s gonna work…or not work.
All I know is that George Washington was immeasurably more fortunate to have Alexander Hamilton as his CHOSEN first Secretary of the Treasury….than Stalin was to be stuck with Litvinov……or Trump to have Mnuchin! LOL. And American and Russia ….and China as well have very much to learn form each other in current history……….on a foundation of better understanding Past History……in an particular Hamilton’s work…which made the 13th bankrupt states….not only quickly credit worthy………but laid the foundation for a rapid physical economy success …not a bubble success of The United States in the earliest decades of the nineteenth century, even after his murder by Burr.
No Brag, just FACT.
The conclusion of my friend’s little essay, with the last paragraph of the second part…repeated for continuity:
“Hence a well-regulated currency and system of finance, combined with incentives and penalties (bounties, tariffs & taxation) combined with the general goal of fostering industrial, agricultural and population growth in a decentralized system of free commerce among our “united but separate” states, was the crux of the Hamiltonian economic system.
And in monetary policy specifically, the regulation of the medium of exchange must be held to the highest standard of integrity and value. That is no small matter to achieve but it is the subject of Hamilton’s prodigious body of economic works, which very few have ever fully studied. Anything less than what Hamilton envisioned (a “school of economic thought” that was essentially buried alive at birth) is simply a variant of the oligarchical system. There is nothing in between and the oligarchical system will continue to foster economic bubbles that will continue to burst, leading to further consolidation of their power and control over society until they have restored what they at least had prior to 1776. That is the short history of world finance.
Luckily for the United States whenever our bubbles have burst, often because our gullibility has allowed oligarchical meddling in our affairs, the pieces were always picked up and reorganized along some variant of the Hamiltonian system. His spirit is in our DNA. The First Bank of the US, The Second Bank of the US, The Greenback System and even the gold backed Federal Reserve System, are all weak versions of the Hamiltonian vision. Even the Fed, the weakest version of them all, added significant value, despite providing oligarchical interests a strong foothold in shaping our monetary policy. It seems however that during crises political necessity and the strength of our underlying constitutional system, national identity and character has provided sufficient overriding force to keep us moving forward despite imperfect representations of Hamilton’s vision. We simply lost Hamilton too early – his life tragically cut short by scandal, the murder of his son and ultimately his own surrender to being slaughtered. Alexander Hamilton left us before he could consolidate his political power and ascendancy and fully refine his contribution as the world historical figure he was.
It is the Hamiltonian system of political economy that created the greatest agro-industrial nation and the largest accumulation of “middle class” wealth the world has ever seen. The very idea that an individual “commoner” could own property, build wealth and have a valuable relationship with a local viable banking system was unthinkable in 1776.
Yet today nearly 6 Billion people on this planet lack such privilege and potential. Is it any surprise they clamor for our shores?
(ME: Today, many ….e.g. Ilhan Omar??? may hold their noses and hate what we’re becoming or even were in better times…..but as provocative as this sentence is….Is it STILL not true of her and many like her?? YES! Because our becoming over the last century “a cock-boat in the wake of a British Man o’ War”….as the Hamiltonian John Quincy Adams……6th US President…8th Secretary of State …and First US Ambassador to Russia advised us never to become…DID happen!
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/russian-us-relationship-goes-way-back-john-quincy-adams-180960600/ )
my Hamiltonian Pal continues:
The most misunderstood and maligned of our Founding Fathers, more than 2 centuries after his death, left us with an imperfect system but a system good enough to fulfill much of the vision our Founders had for OUR nation. But it may not last. Since 1944 we have witnessed the murder of FDR, who promised Churchill he would dismantle the British Empire after WWII, the assassination of JFK, who threatened the very same interests, the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. who reminded us of the meaning of the Declaration of Independence and the debilitation and incapacitation of Ronald Reagan, who broke up the British surrogate Soviet Union and threatened to terminate MAD and the paradigm of endless wars, in cooperation with a new Russia.
We now face an unabashed 3-year frontal assault on a sitting President with the wholesale destruction of his economic recovery by a pandemic hoax. Why? Because of his unequivocal commitment to restoring Reagan’s strategic paradigm in cooperation with Russia in conjunction with the implementation of Hamiltonian trade measures which, combined, represent an existential threat to the oligarchical, globalist world order.
All Americans, Democrats and Republicans alike, need to get that that is the core of the economic battle we have been waging these past 231 years. Economics and the concept of value is truly non-partisan, but it hasn’t been treated as such since our founding. And until people fully grasp that gold and silver are as much “money” and a “store of value” as wampum and rare sea shells, they will remain ignorant of the basic precepts of modern political economy as defined by Alexander Hamilton.
Such ignorance will insure that WE THE PEOPLE become the useful fools of the “moneyed interests” we so distrust.
That is not the future Hamilton and our Founders envisioned for these United States.
Happy Independence Day. July 4, 2020 ”
END
Irony…….One of the Seven Forms of Ambiguity
Speaking of Founders peering into the future……I doubt that the following hesitation is what they envisioned, either:
THE WAYFARER By Stephen Crane
The Wayfarer,
Perceiving the pathway to truth,
Was struck with astonishment.
It was thickly grown with weeds.
“Ha,” he said, “I see that no one has passed here in a long time.”
Later he saw that each weed
Was a singular knife.
“Well,” he mumbled at last,
“Doubtless there are other roads.”
A very contemporary experience of truth…
There’s no truth without the lie, zoals geen goed kan bestaan zonder kwaad
John Wright – All the answers https://youtu.be/V2zE8hsFxR8
Stunning Synchronicity This Day.
I honestly had no idea, Quite Frankly!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkPlPMGOnZs
This Day In 1804
3,063 views•Streamed live 2 hours ago
And on more than one level………….among 3-4 main topics Frank touches on in under 20 minutes….
Wayfair trending BIG on Twitter
It first came on my radar just a couple hours ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_FfqGhrmK8
Wayfair, Amazon, Walmart, Etsy Caught Trafficking Missing Children
36,045 views•Jul 11, 2020
Ghyslaine singing like a bird????
I don’t know about Amazon, Walmart and Etsy yet…………HOWEVER ……Wayfair is mighty suspicious:
Cheap looking cabinets for $9,999 and up. Early discoverers of this weirdness using Yandex search plug in the Wayfair sku #’s of the various “one of a kind” items………….and up pop photos online of missing children whose first names Wayfair uses to name each cabinet or ridiculously overpriced throw pillow…..
Wayfair claims a “glitch” in their pricing system.
Nothing to see here, folks!
One meme early on in second link was to my liking:
Shows the Ark and dark skies…..Captioned: “Noah Was A Conspiracy Theorist”
Then a puddle with a large drop of water hitting it, and the caption, “Then it began to rain.” LOL
Now for some Canadian content…
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/video/canada-could-have-done-a-lot-of-other-things-with-300-billion-that-s-now-gone-former-finance-minister~1993126
Here’s another interview by Former Deputy PM, John Manley. (These interviews do seem to come in clusters.) Manley was also Finance Minister at one point, and it’s in that capacity that he’s asked to comment on a recent fiscal update for Canada. (spoiler alert: big deficit :-)
Two observations from me:
1) He throws a little love to the peasants! (maybe he’s thinking of running for office again.) By suggesting that a life of working 3 part-time jobs and subsisting on oatmeal, peanut butter, and whatever the dollar store is clearing out, is perhaps not as satisfying as having some free time and a little spending money. (that’s my read – this from the former head of the Business Council of Canada. Maybe he’ll get some phone calls about that.)
2) He mentions sacrifices that will have to be made as a consequence of pandemic spending. Like “high-speed Internet” – could that include 5G rollout? — and “high-speed rail”. I’d like to suggest canceling the proposed one from Vancouver to Seattle and Portland, please.
Sometimes… when the House Arrest gets to be a little too much, I’ll remember that there’s always Otaba E.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HtvH34CmZY
Russia’s capitulating to Covid pressure is paying off for the west, how the zio-zeitgeist-nazi’s rub their hands in glee.
Over 727,00 cases, what cases, cases of madness, cases of flu, cases of death by any other means ?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jul/12/coronavirus-live-news-australia-vaccine-human-trials-to-start-trump-wears-mask-in-public
Watch the politics here .. this is a political issue. Watch how many full on Trumpers that yesterday just screamed that masks are everything that is bad and the absolute sign of control, now start meekly wearing their masks. Watch for the imminent event of MAGA masks all of a sudden appearing.
Trump’s even mask has the presidential seal on: http://www.chinadailyglobal.com/a/202007/12/WS5f0aa008a310834817258ce3.html
(I wonder if it was embroidered in Mexico?)
(Yes, this is a chinese link .. but I like the chinese media – they have beautiful photography – check this wonderful smile – http://www.chinadailyglobal.com/a/202007/07/WS5f03bc31a310834817257938.html).
Not me.
Master Troller, that DJT.
But i’m not bitin’.
If I have to wear the stupid thing to get in the store….I will….but below my nose…so I can breathe.
Stupid 19.
This Sunday’s Seed Crackers
The Chia seeds are sticky and gelatinous, and they make the glue that stick the crackers together. These are somewhat fiddly to make, but worth while and is one of those things that once you’ve made them once or twice, you remember how. No flour, no sugar, no eggs.
You can exchange the seeds for others – smaller seeds – but do not let go of the Chia seeds. They make these crackers work. This mix of seeds also makes a nice colorful cracker.
You need a preheated oven on the cooler side .. 170C (340F) because you don’t really bake these crackers but it is more of a drying them and also getting them a little browned up to look pretty.
You also need some parchment paper to line flat cookie sheets. It is too hard to get these out of the cookie sheets without parchment paper. Do not butter the pans or cookie sheets as one would do with cookies – these have to dry/bake on a clean surface. Get some parchment paper and save yourself a lot of hassle.
So, 2 cookie sheets lined with parchment paper. I’ve tried aluminum foil but could not get them out. I don’t know if parchment paper is expensive these days as I bought a baker’s roll some time ago and still have a bunch.
So, to the seeds:
1 cup sunflower seeds
3/4 cup pumpkin seeds (roasted is nice)
1/2 cup chia seeds (the absolute must have ingredient)
1/2 cup sesame seeds, (black or white or mixed .. does not matter)
1/4 cup flaxseed or also called linseed
1 Tsp salt
1 1/2 cups water
Put all the seeds in the water, mix up a bit, and the chia will become gluish and stick everything together – let stand not much longer than 15 minutes or so while you add the flavor bits that you can mix and match.
A small spoonful of dried herbs, or grated onion and/or garlic, or chili flakes, or your favorite herbal seasoning. If you use anything with salt, reduce the tablespoon salt in the cracker mix. Mix in to the gelatinous seed mix. I divide this in two and make two flavors.
Then stick this sticky mix down into the cookie sheets and onto the parchment paper with your hands. You want to get it thin – as thin as 3 to 4mm. Too thin and they become fragile, too thick and they will not dry out. Patch it up in places and work it until it is in, the chia seeds will do the sticking together job.
In the oven for 1 hour. They must be crisp at that time, and lightly golden brown. Otherwise slice, turn over and put back in the oven for another 5 or 10 minutes.
Take them out of the oven and if you want nice squares, I take a pizza cutter or sharp knife to them and cut them the shape that I want. Squares work best. Or let it cool and break into more or less cracker sized more rustic pieces. Do not taste when they are hot .. the seeds take a while to cool and you will burn your tongue because the seed oils become really hot.
Store in the fridge for about a week in a container with lid – no more, specifically if you have fresh garlic or onion in there. Eat with any cracker topping – a bowl of hummus, or with a slice of cheese or a bowl of tomato slices, or egg salad, as a cracker with soup, or with avocado – anything you feel like.
We are currently still in the traditional Russian time of St John the Baptist that reaches back over centuries, his famous words more relevant today than ever. For those unafraid to stand up for truth in the wasteland of now:
I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness….” John 1.23
Hi Johanna,
Can you please explain what you mean by the statement:
“We are currently still in the traditional Russian time of St John the Baptist that reaches back over centuries”?
Thanks in advance.
Tyson
St John’s day, June 24th, and its crucial, spiritual meaning for or some weeks afterwards, and the St John’s day festival celebrated in Russia, predating the Orthodox church ? I don’t know, but recorded in legends and also early 20c art and music, that all have relevance for now and into the future.
I also meant John the Baptist as a loner, and forerunner of truth. I hope that is a bit clearer.
Haha, oh yes, the Feast Day!
Different calendars.
Thanks Johanna.
Some music…
I hit upon this, I didn’t realize that they are still performing: Duran Duran.
In my school time, I hit the road daily on my race bike, with live music of them on my headphone, also while it has ideal cycling rhythm.
And they are still alive and kicking (you wouldn’t say that singer Simon le Bon is already a granddad): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpJ7hI8ZxU0
Cheers, Rob
For young lives lost at the apex of paedophile, global economic tyranny.
Laudate Dominum, Barbara Hendricks
https://youtu.be/9S43CKjIGVg
Sublime. Heavenly.
Gratias a tibi!