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Apparently we’re not going to take it anymore!
Rock on.
Happy days in the Antipodes.
Fantastic news just in for Planet Earth!!!
It seems that a viable end-game strategy to beat Covid-19 is here…in fact, the main ingredient has been right under our noses for decades…forget about the fact that it was never invented to treat Covid or any other virus…it doesn’t matter…it’s a moot point… because IT WORKS!!!
We can now confidently and permanently all throw away any idea of ever being vaccinated by some thoroughly dodgy synthetic mRNA product that could permanently alter our DNA and have god knows how many other serious side effects.
The best news is that the central ingredient of this new treatment/prevention protocol is a readily available off-patent [read affordable] animal parasite treatment that is decades old and has a very highly proven degree of safety.
https://www.peakprosperity.com/censored-most-recent-covid-video-banned-by-youtube/
Chris Martenson…[yes that is the very same CM that was absolutely rubbished by our most vocal ‘it’s all just a harmless hoax’ exponent]… has been talking about this product for months now. But now the data is in. There is no more excuse not to be using this…indeed if your health provider is not offering you this treatment as an option then it should very soon be tantamount to medical malpractice.
I have summarised what I see are the main point timeline but I strongly urge each and every one of you to watch the whole presentation…this is HUGE!!!
3:15 Meta-analysis of mortality outcomes reported from clinical trials in Covid-19 hospitalized patients…90% benefit in hospitalized patients
4:48 90% or better blockage in prophylaxis trials
5:36 Prevention of the horrible “long haul’ effects that an estimated 10% of cases suffer
5:50 A stunning comparison of case count decreases in Brazilian cities with and without Ivermectin distribution campaigns for August cases compared to June and July
7:30 Spectacular case counts and deaths reductions in Paraguay after Ivomectin distribution
8:40 Long-haulers [long-covid] in approximately 10% of cases…bear in mind that if in the US there are now on roughly 9 million cases, this translates to 900,000 wounded people…more than from WW2!…people who for months still have severe symptoms…in this small trial 87.9% of patients had a resolution of symptoms after just two treatments of Ivermectin
12.27 The graphic result in these studies has a 1 in 2 million chance that this result is just due to chance…the % figure is the random effects meta-analysis result…
Early treatment 91%
Late treatment 60%
Pre-exposure prophylaxis 98%
Post exposure prophylaxis 87%
All studies 75%
17:52 Back in July in Tuxtla, a state in Mexico, conducted a campaign with a house to house visit of medics whose purpose was to find positive Covid cases and provide drug kits that included Ivermectin, Indomethacin, Azithromycin, Paracetamol, Oseltamivir, and Calcium. Treatment was for seven days. These results were spectacular too!
20:00 In Romania several randomized controlled trials have concluded that Ivomectin is effective and saves lives at any stage of the disease. Treatment in the hospital reduces mortality by a factor of 3-6
22:00 Summary of what Ivermectin can do…
It works as pre-exposure prophylaxis
It works as post-exposure prophylaxis
It treats early stage Covid
It treats late stage Covid
It improves the lives of Covid long-haulers
It probably prevents long-hailers in the first place
It probably prevents/limits other damage for mild cases
It probably prevents/limits other damage for severe cases
22:40 MATH+ PROTOCOL
PROPHYLAXIS PROTOCOLS
Ivermectin…Prophylaxis for high-risk individuals…0.2mg/kg…one dose on day1and day3, then take one dose every 4 weeks…Post Covid-19 exposure prophylaxis…0.2mg/kg…one dose day 1 and day 3
Vitamin D3 1000-3000 IU/day…or up to even 4000- 5000 IU/day
Vitamin C 1000mg twice a day
Quercetin 250 mg/day
Zinc 50 mg/day
Melatonin 6 mg before bedtime[causes drowsiness]
Selenium 200 ug/day
B Complex vitamins
EARLY OUTPATIENT PROTOCOL
Ivomectin 0.2 mg/kg…1 dose on day 1 and day 3
Vitamin D3 4000 IU/day
Vitamin C 2000 IU 2-3 times daily
Quercetin 250 mg twice a day
Zinc 100 mg/day
Melatonin 10 mg before bedtime
Aspirin 325 mg/day [unless contraindicated]
Selenium 200ug/day
B Complex vitamins
This is the best news I have heard in a very long time…especially after hearing the death toll in the US yesterday from Covid was higher than 9/11…even when it is a complete hoax…just imagine the carnage if the virus actually existed!
These protocols, if word gets out and they are widely adopted, could have this virus beaten in no time at all. Bring it on!!!
YCHMTSU
Col
Too late.
BigPharma has already been paid huge sums for their various jabs.
GP Practices in England (6800 of in England) will, conditionally, get £12.50/Jab (only if they do 975/week https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/covid-19/gp-practices/covid-19-vaccination-programme
Don’t expect any Vaccine Damage Payment though (up to £120K in UK https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment) as SARS-CoV-2 will never be added to the eligibility list https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment/eligibility.
The scamdemic is proceeding exactly as forecast in Event 201 https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/scenario.html
Really glad that you published this Col! Thanks.
We’re still content with our non-pharma protocol, but this is the one I would follow if I was going to choose pharma created stuff.
Comments for Prophylaxis Protocols:
The Vit D should be scaled to body weight. We’ve had that in the Cafe over time.
The Vit C should be scaled up and taken in liposomal form.
The B Complex is not strictly necessary if one eats meat, eggs, nuts and seeds, certain types of beans, fish and so on. (good quality, not the lab made junk). It is very necessary if one does not eat meat as is Nutritional Yeast.
This is the first time that I see Melatonin added to a protocol. I guess for the winter season that cannot do any harm. But again, if you take the sun in its pure form (grins), like sun on the body, that is not strictly necessary, but oooh, does it make you sleep sweet.
I’ll go and draw this all together again over in the community in a few days, but only after another set of research to be done.
For this set of research, I am looking for the following. Perhaps Pamela and other Russian watchers can help here. This needs to be formal information.
Type(s) of Russian vaccine(s)
History and achievements of vaccine lab(s)
Published data on vaccine(s)
Trials: where? How many?
Contraindications? Safety? Efficiency?
Customers, potential or otherwise?
Significant dates, past and future for release, deliveries?
Potential/planned quantities?
So, I am not going to tell you what this is for (grins), but you will see it.
Let’s understand something.
In terms of pharmaceutical knowledge, the Russians are closest with their ‘spike protein’ vaccine.
mRNA ‘Vaccines’ are dangerous beyond understanding & will lead to disasters in the population. mRNA is a vital component of all cell reproduction & we simply do not have either the knowledge or the precision. We would need to understand much about the human body which we simply do not understand today. I’m not going to become a guinea pig for Big Pharma. Trump’s ‘Warp Speed’ is an attack on the human population and what is happening now in the UK with the pics of the oldies being injected is a grave sin against humanity in my view.
Scientists from the Gamaleya Center have been working on adenoviral vector-based vaccines since the 1980s, and now lead the world in developing these types of vaccines.
Another adenoviral vector-based vaccine against Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) is in the advanced stages of clinical trials. Many other COVID-19 vaccine candidates also do use adenoviral vectors, but none uses the two-vector platform developed by the Gamaleya Center.
Using adenovirus vectors, scientists at the Gamaleya Center successfully created, and were issued the Russian Federation Ministry of Healthcare certificate of registration for, a vaccine against the Ebola fever that incorporates adenovirus vectors.
Below [in linked post], you will find the links to the white papers and scientific publications that validate the N.F. Gamaleya Center’s vaccines against the Ebola fever and Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS).
https://sputnikvaccine.com/about-vaccine/human-adenoviral-vaccines/
Second interim analysis of clinical trial data showed a 91.4% efficacy for the Sputnik V vaccine on day 28 after the first dose; vaccine efficacy is over 95% 42 days after the first dose
The efficacy of the Sputnik V vaccine is 91.4%, based on the second interim analysis of data obtained 28 days after administering the first dose (7 days after the second dose).
• – Calculation was based on the analysis of data on volunteers (n = 18,794) who received both the first and second doses of the Sputnik V vaccine or placebo at the second control point (39 confirmed cases as of November 23, 2020) in accordance with the clinical trial protocol.
• – Preliminary data from volunteers obtained 42 days after the first dose (corresponds with 21 days after the second dose) indicates an efficacy of the vaccine above 95%.
• – The interim research data will be published by the Gamaleya Center team in one of the leading international peer-reviewed medical journals. Following the completion of Phase III clinical trials of the Sputnik V vaccine, Gamaleya Center will provide access to the full clinical trial report.
• – Currently, 40,000 volunteers are taking part in the Phase III double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled clinical post-registration study of the Sputnik V vaccine in Russia, of whom more than 22,000 volunteers were vaccinated with the first dose and more than 19,000 volunteers with the first and second doses.
• – There were no unexpected adverse events during the trials. Monitoring of the participants is ongoing.
• – The Sputnik V vaccine is based on a well-studied human adenoviral vector platform that has proven safe and effective with no long-term side effects in more than 250 clinical trials globally conducted during the past two decades – while the history of the use of human adenoviruses in vaccine development began in 1953. More than 100,000 people have received approved and registered drugs based on human adenoviral vectors.
• – The uniqueness of the Russian vaccine lies in the use of two different human adenoviral vectors which allows for a stronger and longer-term immune response as compared to the vaccines using one and the same vector for two doses.
https://sputnikvaccine.com/newsroom/pressreleases/second-interim-analysis-of-clinical-trial-data-showed-a-91-4-efficacy-for-the-sputnik-v-vaccine-on-d/
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This is just a sample from Sputnik V vaccine website. On their website there is a lot of links to patents and scientific publications. I’ve heard for three Russian vaccines, but don’t remember the names of the other two and don’t know if they the same type.
https://www.rosbalt.ru/russia/2020/12/04/1876304.html
“4 December 2020, 11:10
Only a third of Russians are ready to be vaccinated against the new coronavirus in the near future if there was such an opportunity, and the majority – 70% – would not get vaccinated. The attitude of Russians to vaccinations against covid was found out by the SuperJob portal.
According to the survey, only 9% of Russians are definitely ready to get vaccinated, slightly more (13%) among people aged 45 and older. Rather, 21% of respondents are inclined towards vaccination, among young people under 24, there are slightly more of them – 23%.
It turned out that men more than women want to be vaccinated – 37% and 21%.
Among 70% of those who do not want to be vaccinated, 42% definitely do not consider it appropriate, and 28% admitted that most likely they would not be vaccinated. At the same time, the most skeptical about vaccinations are respondents aged 35-44 (74%). It also turned out that women are more skeptical than men about the idea of vaccination – 79% and 63%.
The poll was conducted on December 2-3 among 1.6 thousand respondents aged 18 and over.”
I’ve been reading in this area too, and can confirm everything you have reported regarding one of the Russian vaccines, the one made by Gamaleya Centre.
All however, follow a tried and very respectable pathway – they use the genes derived from the identified exosome/adenovirus-SARS which they think, one way or another, code for the particle spikes.
It is these spikes which an Antibody, if one is formed [ not always the case] recognise and attach to when destroying the particle.
The SARS parts they use have been around for a long time, have been used in other vaccines, i.e. Ebola, and have no side effects.
Two points of interest from this. One is that it is worlds away in technique from the very dodgy whatever it is the Western Big Pharma mob are trotting out, and it is totally transparent. It used NO mRNA at all.
The other is they dont claim to be using any part of the so-called “Covid-19” “virus”. If you want to know “why not”, it’s because no such virus has ever been isolated, and the mRNA sequences thought to be part of it was largely put together by guess work of a computer modelling program!!!
This not only throws a degree of support for the theory that no such virus exists, it also proves that Russia is taking care of her people, rather than try to frighten them to death in order to make big bucks.
In summary Pamela, there is no virus but Russia have a vaccine to fight it anyway.
Fair dinkum.
Precisely… and now because of the covidiocy of so many and of course the extraordinarily irresponsible behavior of their ‘leader’, the US is now staring down the barrel of sustained horror show with literally weeks of 3000+ deaths a day being virtually inevitable…and just think… all from a virus that doesn’t exist!
Can you imagine what the carnage would be if this wasn’t a harmless hoax and Covid-19 was actually real? [sarc].
YCHMTSU
Col
LOL. Yep. Things you can do with modern science eh? Oh, and words. Get the wording right and you can cure anything.
Interesting reading, Liam Scheff showed how “polio” was cured – it’s parameters for diagnoses were changed, i.e. how long symptoms were present etc;. then it got renamed [because they couldn’t find a causative agent], to things like “transient floppy limb” etc.* By the time they had finished renaming it – there was no “polio” – but kids in some areas still get similar symptoms!!
Go figure, as they say.
* details off the top of my head, I may not have remembered correctly – but the basic principle is exactly right.
Col,
yes it is good news, but dare I say it, I posted about this drug as effective treatment several weeks ago – details were in the link from Paul Craig Roberts I included in my reply to you a few days ago. From it :
“………Here is the summary of the results obtained:
Hydroxychloroquine, moderate forms: 74% improvement, 4 deaths
Ivermectin, moderate forms: 99% improvement, 0 deaths
Hydroxychloroquine, severe forms: 50% improvement, 20 deaths
Ivermectin, severe forms: 94% improvement, 2 deaths …. ”
It also included a link to the Egyptian randomised trials report from 14th November. I’m glad we agree on this one :-)
Here’s hoping that this will be promoted as a way back to normal living instead of never ending dodgy vaccines and forced hibernations. Did you see reports today ( after the roll out in the UK ) that there were 6 deaths during the Pfizer trials. These deaths have been declared to be from natural causes – though no post mortems were carried out. Also, Bell’s Palsy ( facial paralysis – a temporary condition – but lasting for months ). A bit late to tell people after they’ve been jabbed. What happened to informed consent ?
And now, new warnings issued today – after first day’s use in UK – of serious allergic reactions ( which were predicted and predictable due to the presence of PEG to which an estimated 70% of people develop antibodies and many go on to develop allergic reactions – which can be life threatening ).
Hopefully, this is the light at the end of the tunnel. I agree it would be tantamount to medical malpractice to deny this protocol in favour of unproven vaccines – or no treatment at all. So this information / your post should be spread as far and wide as possible.
Thanks Col.
sandinED, you recently said:
“The PCR test – thoroughly discredited – continues to produce headline grabbing numbers”
If you have no particular reason to think that covid-19 is a significant health concern you must, for giving your thanks to Col, imagine it is something that is of some health concern.
What do you base that belief in?
Of course it is “of some health concern”
THAT is NOT the issue, Anonymouse!
If it were of NO health concern at all, then clearly it could not be weaponized by the Deep State/Empire as their # 1 means of social and political control and END GAME…..which is to kill you and billions of others like you/us ….off….one way or the other.
HOWEVER: the “other” is definitely NOT Covid itself.
So, I wouldn’t make the error of Absolutism and Absurd Oversimplification………….of considering The Thingee In Itself as unconnected to much of any other consideration….such as their determination to get rid of Donald Trump.
THAT is gross incompetency and playing right into their hands: Herr Klaus, alle ist klar!
If Col dispels their weapon of FEAR with discovery of someone else’s discovery (PCR…Russians ??? I don’t know the details….) of a therapeutic or SAFE vaccine….then with this optimism of this moment, on this flank, he has joined the cause of humanity against the oligarchy that deployed this Stupid Thingee.
Whether it is “natural” and they deployed it opportunistically (which I doubt) or Man-Made and they deployed it deliberately (which I strongly suspect) is of secondary importance. As is it’s ultimate lethality in itself…or lack thereof.
What is known, with no doubt whatsoever is that It IS their Current Great Lubricant for Klaus’s Great Technocratic Reset of Oligarchic Control Over the Life and Freedom…………of everyone but themselves.
And them’s the facts, ma’am.
If the engine in that machine seizes up and blows gaskets…….because Their Fear-based Engine Lubricant is Eliminated……they will be right back to the drawing boards.
So it is always necessary to understand that and be 1….2…3 steps ahead. But so far as I can tell in a few minutes..I have to devote in a short break………..the course of this discussion is getting better.
Cheers!
Of course it is “of some health concern”
You mean like any of the 65% of the regularly undiagnosed Influenza Like Illnesses (ILI)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/veterinary-science-and-veterinary-medicine/influenza-like-illness
?
Why do you think DJT needs to pump Pfizer as a cure for one of those via his Operation Warp Speed (just being rolled out to countless millions with god only knows what impact)?
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Anonymous from 11.35am,
I do acknowledge I keep posting on this subject – and probably repeating myself. I intend to stop but then find something else that’s interesting and I think I should share it. I know it must be getting boring – but still I can’t promise to stop – if I find something new or significant – sorry :-)
Anonymous,
the deaths have been shown to be in the elderly or people with one or more co morbidities. It doesn’t seem to be much of a risk to the rest of us – who may well get it but recover with little or even no symptoms. That’s my understanding. Would these people have died anyway ? Maybe. Even the common cold can be fatal to an elderly / immune compromised person. We will see what year on year excess death figures show when this is all over
But it seems there are at risk groups and it is for them that presently, the whole world is being shut down. Hopefully, this treatment is made available and there can be a return to normal life. There are now quite a lot of medical professionals speaking against the lockdowns, the PCR tests, the vaccines. I’m hoping this can be a face saving way for the lockdown pushers to step back from their strategy after having doubled down on it.
Myself, I use the recommended preventives, Vit C, D, zinc, and I give those to my elderly mother too, and fish oil. But, these are just my decisions based on my reading over the years. I don’t think it is a significant concern for most people. See Stanford report linked in my reply to Earth Rattler. But I’m just reading and trying to understand – I have no training in this subject. I’ve been posting some links / reports and my own thinking on the subject, for what it’s worth
Chris Martenson’s Peak Prosperity Site is a great site.
Thanks for bringing this information to this site.
No problem Mike…it was simply my duty to share this…the sad part is that if CM had been listened to from March onwards, and not completely rubbished by pretentious know-alls, then 100’s of thousands of lives could have been saved.
If for instance, the US MR had been equal to the average world rate the maths is both simple and tragically revealing…
330 million [US population] x 204 [world average Mortality Rate] = 67,320
Actual death toll to date is 299,000 in the US
This is a truly astonishing difference of 231,680
Sadly a figure of approximately 67,000 is actually very realistic and achievable since there are dozens of countries that have done far better than this too…especially given that the US had plenty of lead-in time to formulate some effective strategies.
Of course, this was never going to happen because of astonishingly brazen denial of reality, a constant litany of lies, and a shockingly irresponsible example that tRump set for his country right from day one.
It was subsequently very alarming for me to witness these same farcical mantras being parroted on this site.
I still maintain that these Covidiots owe the Saker community a huge and unconditional apology for helping to spread this highly dangerous misinformation.
Fat chance
Col
where do Kiwi Fruits come from-asking for me-because I am sick to what is left of my back teeth of nonsense from the lot of youse.
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I am not a doctor, but would like to add some thoughts to the vaccine information stream based on practical experience and prior knowledge
The production and concept behind vaccines is control of disease, prevention of disease, and elimination of a disease, presumably.
What a vaccine won’t do is cure the disease or the patient. What it will do is suppress it. This means prevention of illness and prevention of cure.
Cure derives from care, the word refers also to a remedy and significantly, to a spiritual change of the person when becoming well, returning to health again. Is there any point in this, is it secondary or the last thought in everyone’s mind, what’s the point of life and what’s wrong with dying ?
What does “sick person” suggest to you, the reader, what kind of reaction?
Added to this is another fact to add to the current Covid 19 vaccination information/controversy maelstrom : the repelling of the disease, its suppression, engenders more virulent outbreaks of disease, stronger vaccines to combat greater resistance. A never ending war for health, targeting the elimination of disease, prevention of death, and prevention/denial of spiritual growth or individual change.
That may sound a bit radical, but the harsh, factual truth is we’re standing at a radical health junction !
Becoming ill and recovering may be a prerequisite for truly appreciating and treasuring health, and life.
Earth Rattler,
we would do well to remember that living any kind of life at all involves risk. If we attempt to eliminate risk we will not be able to cross the street, to drive a car or have contact with other human beings. We do not live forever. If we recognise these ( obvious ) facts then we can live our lives. If we don’t, we can’t. The present covid hysteria is a denial of these facts.
A recent Stanford study concluded the following :
” ….People <65 years old have very small risks of COVID-19 death even in the hotbeds of the pandemic and deaths for people <65 years without underlying predisposing conditions are remarkably uncommon. Strategies focusing specifically on protecting high-risk elderly individuals should be considered in managing the pandemic.
The study concludes that for adults of working age the risk of dying of coronavirus is equivalent to the risk of a car accident on a daily commute…..". https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935120307854
Nobody would comply if they were told, " you cannot commute to work it's too dangerous. " Yet here we are. If people had been informed of the above study instead of the constant fear inducing campaigns, the lockdowns / vaccines / control would not have been possible – and all the collateral damage would have been avoided.
So, the present impositions have little grounding in logic. A targeted response – yes – as recommended above. But strict measures should be entirely voluntary. Being alive involves making choices and decisions and dealing with the consequences – and hopefully learning / growing along the way. Sometimes your choices lead to poor health / obesity / and early death – but they remain your choices to make.
Old people have had all their rights removed, have been imprisoned in care homes, denied visits and will now be vaccinated – relatives being informed that they will only be allowed to visit after everyone has been vaccinated. ( I would include a video but it has been removed.) If we respected old people at all, they would have the choice to stay in a very strict regime, move to a less restrictive home, or move in with relatives. It is their right to weigh the risks and make their choice.
It cannot be news to anyone that old people die. For example, every year old people die for want of warmth in the winter because they can't afford to pay for it. Yet we're asked to believe the extreme restrictions are imposed by TPTB because they love us !
Accepting life means accepting risk and accepting death too. If we live in such fear – " a never ending war for health " as you say, then life and health, in all its forms, will pass us by.
sandinED
All you write is so true. Yes, risk is good ! The demands of health and safety rules and regulations,, risk assessment procedures also, as well as increased vaccination pressures in the last 20 years, these have considerably increased peoples fear levels and lack of trust, at the work place, in education, all over.
I wanted to clarify the health concepts behind vaccines, how they work, the longer term implications of more virulent diseases, the risk of greater non responses to medication, and then to look at what health and illness mean for the life of the individual, in a general way.
One could gives loads of examples. Examples also of those with a an understanding, courage, and interesting stories in relation to disease and dying, and those of their carer’s and friends and family.
I don’t personally feel one can separate all these fundamental questions in relation to the vaccine. We have to connect medicine and healing in a new way, broaden our understanding of what suffering means, as well as health and wellbeing. I will maybe give an example.
Perpetual war for peace, and now for health, we repress the meaning of life, mask it, deny it with data.
Earth Rattler,
our own immune systems are apparently good for nothing. How then, have we survived as a species this far ? Nutrition is ignored as a factor while processed food has become the norm. But it’s not just physical health that’s ruined. If we have a problem we’re persuaded to take anti depressants – don’t get to the root of it – take a pill. The medicalisation of everything, without considering human needs.
With all the advances in medicine and the increase in use of vaccines, we haven’t gotten healthier, we’re obese and growing fatter by the day, we suffer more from allergies, autism has exploded, autoimmune diseases are on the rise and I believe life expectancy has reduced. What’s it all for ?
I say reject the medicalisation of everything – find health in good food, fresh air, exercise, family, friends, be kind – and resist the ” new normal. ”
You ask big questions. I look forward to your next post.
All the best to you,
Sand.
@sandra,
life expectancy up until a few hundred years ago was half of today. The average, ‘privilaged’ person, eating a realitivly healthy diet today lives twice as long………although bits and pieces fall off requiring repair, removal or replacement. Once we get bionics, the skys the limit…………save for oxidization and rust……….requiring repair, removal or replacement………..:)
Cheers, M
Sean,
of course yes we do live a lot longer than in previous centuries ( although the rich always lived longer lives ), probably due to improved cleanliness, sewage systems / clean water. What I was thinking of is reports on obesity and diabetes / poor nutrition etc. leading to this generation being the first unlikely to live as long as their parents. I’ve read quite a few articles on this in recent years. Here’s one example :
https://medium.com/@davidludwigmd/declining-life-expectancy-according-to-new-cdc-data-d137ae07d1bb
None of my bits are falling off so far I’m glad to report – although my brain does go on strike sometimes :-)
Sand
Sand, questions are often the most important feature of conversation though I don’t plan on framing things as a question consciously, but the subject itself, the individual and the social environment, they often benefit
I came on here and have read though the many comments, and intended to follow on with a life story anecdote, about a child I knew, however, it will keep.
My keyboard is on switch off mode due to incursions of base control, lower vibration energy, I’m sure the tone will be restored again by you and other patient, saint like individuals made of stronger, tougher stuff.
Earth Rattler,
my comment was not a criticism, – if any thing it was an acknowledgement that I hadn’t been able to answer very well.. I agree with you, questions are vital – how else would anyone ever learn anything ?
I do look forward to your next post,
Sand
Did you know Sand, that TB was already well and truly defeated BEFORE they invented the vaccine??
Again, good building methods, getting rid of disease ridden hovels with cracked floorboards contain the filth of millennia; fresh air, clean water, better food for the poor, all played their part. Oh- and i forgot – isolation and treatment for the sick only!! :-)
Pamela,
I’ve also heard it said that Polio was already on the way out before vaccinations that are credited with its defeat – do you have any thoughts on that ?
As to your view that engineers have improved health – as an engineer I am delighted :-) – but really I’m not surprised, thinking of sewage disposal and clean water for a start. More generally, engineers have to understand things – if they didn’t, there would be chaos and catastrophe everywhere – bridges. buildings. planes, ships, modern appliances all function because engineers have understood – engineers have to understand or disaster will ensue.
It’s a good habit, no matter the subject, I always want to understand, ( obviously it can’t always be in depth ) and if something doesn’t make sense, and I can’t get answers to explain, I will not accept. If something doesn’t make sense there is a vanishingly small chance that it will be true.
Thanks for you interesting info Pamela.
Sandy – you might be interested in this.
A few years back now, while still lecturing in medico/biological sciences, I researched for a lecture I wanted to give on epidemiology and causes of death, life spans, from about the 1700’s to today.
Interestingly, the major causes of death were related to infections, both from the accidents while farm working, as most people did a lot of outdoor work – even the middle class doctors and vicars!! Also, of course, child birth, and childhood infections. That these were in the main due to the circumstances of extreme poverty was shown in the figures. That they improved, not with vaccines but with improved civil engineering, water and sewerage especially was also clearly demonstrated. In fact, we owe much more for our improved life spans to engineers, not academic “medicos”!! Engineers are also people who have never sought to have power over us, interestingly.
However, the stats by “class” ie. status and income were curious. In fact, as my students said, on my question “who do you think lived the longest and healthiest”? – the expected answer was, the aristocrats, the very wealthy. In fact, it wasn’t. They had life-spans not much better than many middle class tradesmen, and businessmen. The longest life spans were country squires, the country doctor, vicar, in fact, the people Jane Austen wrote about in her first three novels. I’d say that, once again, it supports the contention that [a] country life, with its fresh food, air and water and [b] small town, village life, with its community support and activities and mutual aid, are the optimum for human life.
The Aristocrats travelled the world, “Empire Built”, got foreign tropical diseases, got up to idiot acts, like duelling, and played politics as they fought for privilege and court favour, in other words a life of risk and stress, clearly not conducive to a good and long life :-) Yet it’s that so many today are living and wondering why they have diseases.
After all, after we have spent the last few decades berating America for its unhealthy ersatz – “food”, couch potato lifestyle leading to it having the most unhealthy people on the planet – why are we now blaming Trump et al, for the greater number of deaths?. If – given the many reports of fraudulent reporting we have, there are in fact a greater number.
We also noted soemthing else – the very low number of suicides. Of course, because of the very nasty habit of the church in refusing to bury a suicide in consecrated ground, which for many of those days meant a past life in some sort of hell, this was enough reason to often cover up suicides as accidents. Still, the number even if doubled, was way down the table. Today it’s up in some places to 5th or less!! Which also speaks volumes I would suggest.
Interesting topic, I agree. Thanks for referring to it.
AI will not fundamentally change anything. It will help some it will enslave most just like TV did or cell phs do Human beings are what they are. Only a fundamental change of consciousness can help us move forward to a luminous future
amarynth,
I am vegetarian I don’t even eat eggs except if someone offers me a piece of cake. I have done and still do physical work now a little less. I meet and interact with lot of people never followed the covid instructions. i am 72 and feel fine Wish you all the same
bernie,
as a fellow vegetarian, I’m interested to know, do you take a b complex supplement as Amarynth advises ? I do take several bs but just within a multivitamin. I wonder if perhaps I should, ( I’ll be asking Amarynth – though I fear I’m becoming a pest asking her so many questions ). I’d be interested in your thinking on this as you remain well and active – which is nice to hear.
OK, the body does manufacture some B12. But we then pre-suppose that we have a very healthy body, all pieces work perfectly, and then the body may manufacture sufficiently. But we all know that it is not all perfect, our food is denatured generally and things are not peachy keen with our nutrition – we’re not all drinking full cream non-pasteurized milk for example and our methods of food prep have given way to what is not sane any longer in order to save time.
So we have to be supportive of what we know to be natural physical processes as well.
So, for that short reason, B12 and some nutritional yeast (which is an inoculated thing and not even truly fermented). Much B12 can be gained from fermented foods done correctly if one does not want to supplement. Supplementation has also its problems as these are not usually made from higher energetic food sources but from cheap ingredients.
Then B12 deficiency is not easy to just diagnose. One has to sometimes insist on this measurement in a blood test. Doctors are not good nutritionists and nutritionists follow the government guidelines. That old BS Triangle yes that has everything turned upside down and is utter BS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_pyramid_(nutrition)#/media/File:USDA_Food_Pyramid.gif
It sometimes is something as simple as cold fingertips that gives a B12 deficiency away. And sometimes it is hidden behind sufficient folic acid for example and that actually masks a B12 deficiency. The results of B12 deficiency are also not so easy. We often have parents that start to forget things – and that may be a B12 deficiency. For me it is a margin of safety for vegetarians although, in a spiritual sense, I think nobody should be eating animals. I just do not think as a species we are spiritually ‘there’. So, this is all very individual. We’re not machines. B12 deficiency also sometimes show in irrationality and anger – see, not so easy if a nutritional deficiency manifests emotionally. I think we are all irrational and angry currently :-)
I just checked my favorite text book on this, and B12 deficiency tends to first show itself emotionally and then in terms of cognition.
So many people in the spiritual sense of this consider the body just not important – it’s just with us while we are on this earth, or it is the meat-sack and we are spiritual beings – you’ve all heard this. I am not of this persuasion. The creator has given us everything we need to be creative spirits and if we are physically not peaking, then the spiritual aspect may also suffer. This is clear once one looks a little at the eastern practices and auric fields and so on. I’m for the piece that says our body is a temple (but then let’s not be so holy that we are no earthly good fer heaven’s sakes!). And that is also why I abhor the story of ‘its just the old people, or those with co-morbidities’, with the underlying message – those are not important. Anyone ever heard of someone who came to give us Life, and Life everlastingly (balanced of course and not so directly sola Scriptura).
We are in a tizzy about a Great Reset, and about full spectrum medical dominance, but first the solutions are in our own hands. OK, I’m off the soapbox now.
The Galactic Federation interviews Earth for membership :-)
https://twitter.com/vinn_ayy/status/1336178629450018817
Amarynth,
actually yes I do take B12 in spray form – not just because I’m vegetarian, but also because I know it’s a very common deficiency as we age – even starting as early as in our 20s. I’ll look into the nutritional yeast. Thanks.
When I have said it’s mainly old people / people with co morbidities I don’t mean it in a dismissive way, but with the idea that measures / protection / help should be targeted to them. I heard an awful account today of how anyone from the age of 60 admitted to hospital is being given a do-not-resuscitate notice ! And I’m absolutely horrified at how old people are being treated in care homes.
Anyway, I promise not to ask you any more questions ……… for a while :-)
Thanks again Amarynth.
No, you’ve never been dismissive in my memory. Never ever. I did not even want to imply that! Not in the least. And great and deep apologies if it came across that way.
We’ve seen a lot of that though.
Amarynth
You said…”And that is also why I abhor the story of ‘its just the old people, or those with co-morbidities’, with the underlying message – those are not important.”
I absolutely echo your thoughts! It is utterly farcical and downright criminally misleading to trivialize the Covid-19 mortality rates using co-morbidities as a basis, especially in regard to anyone 55 and over.
In the US 85.6% people over 65 have 1+ chronic conditions,
56% have 2+ chronic conditions, and 23% have 3+ chronic conditions.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/health_policy/adult_chronic_conditions.htm
Here in NZ, I cannot think of a single person that I know over 65 that doesn’t have at least one chronic health condition.
And yet “it’s a harmless hoax brigade” would still have us believe that Covid-19 has not caused a single death anywhere in the world on the premise that there are always co-morbidities and/or that viruses don’t exist…!
Talk about cherry-picking… in the same breath, they want to attribute every death from the flu as being caused by that virus. Even more outlandish is their claims that viruses don’t exist when it suits their argument and vice versa…astonishing!!
YCHMTSU!
Col
“So many people in the spiritual sense of this consider the body just not important – it’s just with us while we are on this earth, or it is the meat-sack and we are spiritual beings – you’ve all heard this. I am not of this persuasion. The creator has given us everything we need to be creative spirits and if we are physically not peaking, then the spiritual aspect may also suffer. This is clear once one looks a little at the eastern practices and auric fields and so on. I’m for the piece that says our body is a temple (but then let’s not be so holy that we are no earthly good fer heaven’s sakes!)”
Dear amarynth,
You are very patient, very knowledgeable, and very wise. I can tell that you are a good person.
Among the countless schools of Hindu philosophy, there are two that are of particular interest to me. They are Advaita Vedanta and Dvaita Vedanta.
The term ‘dvaita’ is derived from the same root as divide. And advaita is ‘no-divide’.
In their own terminology, the followers of Advaita believe that everything is Brahman, and that all duality is just incorrect interpretation on our part, a result of ignorance, it is ‘maya’. (from the same root as magic, maya is the world we see around us, it is “appearance”, or ‘surat’ as per Rumi, it is illusion; and in Persian a ‘magus’ is someone who can produce illusion or destroy it.)
The Advaitists believe that atman (the self, the true self, not any image or interpretation of the self) and Brahman (the ultimate reality; the spirit) are the same. Whereas, the Dvaitists believe that Vishnu (God; the supreme soul) and jivatman (individual souls; literally the breathing atman; the living self) are two independent and distinct realities.
These two philosophies are both correct, even though they are outright contradictory on the surface.
The first thing I want to clarify is that the physical/spiritual distinction is a false dichotomy. There is no physical world vs spiritual world, or physical body vs spiritual body/soul.
As you say, taking care of one’s health and keeping one’s body in tip top shape is absolutely vital. There is no denying that. And anyone who trashes their body, even in pursuit of a “spiritual” goal, is not heading in the right direction, in my opinion.
Again, it is not about physical vs spiritual. It is about expanding the scope of our perception.
What we perceive as our physical bodies, is not all there is to us. There is more, infinitely more. We are not meant to trade one for the other, but rather to enlarge and expand our awareness until we can perceive our true potential, our true selves: what the Hindus call atman.
When one reaches the true self, one will realize that indeed atman and Brahman are the same, as the Advaitists claim. Our true self, our true being is the spirit, the abstract underlying essence of all that exists.
Thousands of years ago, the Aryan magi discovered a very simple, but monumentally important truth. This is the fact that what our senses tell us is out there, and what is really out there, are two different things. Somehow, we are under a kind of spell, which the ancient Indian Aryans called maya.
Our problem is that we have been indoctrinated to believe that what we see is absolutely and exactly what is out there, for one, and also that there is nothing else out there except what our senses tell us. This is clearly idiotic, and yet no one questions it.
Our physical body is like an antenna, and at present it is only perceiving (from Latin percipere, to receive or take in) a certain chunk of what is out there. There is so much more that we are capable of perceiving with our physical senses, but have been conditioned not to. Like a TV with the child lock on, we are barred from viewing many channels.
And then there is all that we are capable of perceiving, not with our physical equipment, but with other parts of our total being, which we cannot access in our present state.
You mentioned the Creator. The Creator did not create us in our present state. Our present state is the result of thousands of years of conditioning and very serious and major modifications. The Creator created us like every other animal.
Have you seen wild dogs in the mountains? Where I live, the nights are -8 degrees now. The wild dogs sleep outside, in the freezing cold, under the rain or snow. We get nights of -20 degrees here. The birds and dogs and hares and wolves and all the other wildlife barely seem to notice the cold, or the 40+ degree summer heat of Iran for that matter. That is how strong their bodies are, like all animals.
One of the major modifications that has been made to us, among others, is that we have been weakened a hundredfold. I wonder if you have ever watched “Grass: a nation’s battle for life”?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grass_(1925_film)
Please watch it, it is magnificent. The Bakhtiari tribe’s demonstrations of physical prowess in the documentary defy the imagination. Even the women and children.
That was a hundred years ago. If we go back thousands of years, our ancestors were still stronger, and also capable of perceiving much more than we do today.
I realize that understanding all of this is not the simplest task. For myself, it has taken 16 years of consistent effort, since I was 16 years old, to be able to verify all these truths, so that I can elucidate these ideas today.
My recommendation is, if you are a Christian or if you follow a set-in-stone dogma like Christianity, to please study some other religious doctrines. More or less all ancient religions are the same, even if they seem on the surface to be contradictory. But they have all been edited and falsified. The only way to discover the truth is a comparative analysis of as many of them as possible.
Christianity alone is useless, even though it contains all the truths, all the right ideas, and all the right practices necessary to reconnect to the spirit, which is all that anyone really needs. Once a person reconnects to the spirit, nothing more is needed. The spirit bestows knowledge, illuminates the path, provides laughter and joy on the path, and always makes sure one does not go astray.
If you want to truly understand Christianity, you need to start from the beginning of that lineage, which is Zoroastrianism, and then move West and East of Iran, where you will find the Occidental and Oriental species of religious thought. Get to know Judaism, and Islam, Greco-Roman and Germanic mythology, and Indian traditions like Buddhism and Jainism. Familiarize yourself with the Upanishads and the Bhagavad Gita, the Vedas and the Mahabharata, and then move on to ancient China.
Then, study Sumerian and Akkadian ideas which predate all the ones listed above. And finally, when you feel like you understand what our ancestors in the old world were thinking, go find a good shaman in South America and take their magical yage brew, the ayahuasca, and let the shamans show you their tradition, which is ancient beyond belief, and truly magical.
Unfortunately, the Amazonian indigenous communities who know and practice the old ways will all be gone in the near future. Their way of life is being systematically destroyed. And they are not capable of adapting their ways to ours: our culture does not accept co-existence, only total domination.
I am not here for any kind of gain, and I am not here to lead anyone astray. I value truth above all else, like my ancestors and predecessors, the Zoroastrians, who are also being systematically targeted like the Amazonians.
My only aim is to elucidate the truths about the spirit, and I am doing this for the spirit, and under the auspices of the spirit. I am merely doing for others what was once done for me; which is to provide a minimal chance.
I want to stress again, all one needs is the spirit. Returning to the spirit is like returning home, after being homeless out in the cold for a lifetime, which is where we are, which is why in our confusion and desperation we construct buildings to house us and be our home.
If you, or anyone else is interested, I will explain the Vishnu-jivatman model as well, which is the next piece of vital and indispensable knowledge in the puzzle.
Cheers
Sure Jamshyd. But I won’t be taking part in such a conversation here. There is a very simple reason for that and it is that our host here is a Traditionalists Orthodox Christian (and he is also my boss :-) So, I refrain from any serious religious discussion as I do not want to even inadvertently offend.
Also, the cafe structure does not lend itself to a deep conversation of this nature, because it disappears in a day or two .. out of sight, out of mind.
Just one structural comment on Advaita Vedanta and Dvaita Vedanta.
There is actually three parts – Vedanta just means the end of the Vedas. So structurally I would look at all three. You explain it well but some force moderates and ameliorates the opposites.
Advaita Vedanta which is the base and first template
Dvaita is the second or middle template
And the uppermost template is Sankhya Vedanta.
That short description does not do anything justice because first, if we pick up quickly, we see the three .. and then we’re into triune concepts and then we are into going back a little in the complete Sanatana Dharma, Vedas and Upanishads and the trinitarian concepts there and now we have not even breathed. This is a lifelong study really and I flap around like a tadpole or a foolish fortune teller only. Nobody can say they teach ‘truth’ because one can only teach what you understand and sometimes there is a welcome and inspired intuitive blast-off.
And I guess all of this old wisdom has been seriously and truly infiltrated over time, so, a good teacher or at least a guide is a necessity – someone who understands the musical and mathematical structure of Sanscrit at least.
To anyone attempting this study, those would be necessary in my view of this thing.
A second comment and that is the one on ayahuasca. So, this may make people kneejerk. I’ve never been keen on the entheogens or the plant teachers for a reason. There is a very masculine sense around the ayahuascan ‘storming of the pearly gates of wisdom’ (dare I say ‘flagpoles upright’! to make the point :-). This is just my sense and what rattles around in my head and has done so now for years, is that the spiritual path of women is still very hidden. That is not our way. We have a different way. One day I will have time to dive into this :-)
“There is actually three parts – Vedanta just means the end of the Vedas. So structurally I would look at all three. You explain it well but some force moderates and ameliorates the opposites.”
Vedanta is one of the major Hindu schools of thought, it means “of the Vedas.” The school of Vedanta is based on the philosophy of the Upanishads.
“Advaita Vedanta which is the base and first template
Dvaita is the second or middle template
And the uppermost template is Sankhya Vedanta.”
There is no Sankhya Vedanta, as far as I know, amarynth. Sankhya and Vedanta are two different schools of thought. And the Purusha-Prakrti (consciousness-matter) duality in Samkhya is similar to the dualistic model of Dvaita, but it is not exactly the same.
Samkhya is the theoretical basis of yoga. I have never tried yoga, but I have friends who swear by it. So, while I don’t necessarily agree with the Purusha-Prakrti dichotomy, I will refrain from labelling it invalid, because in practice people get results from yoga.
In the most ancient Indian myths, like the tale of the battle of Indra and Vritra the serpent (Greek Typhon, Norse Jörmungandr), Indra drinks Soma before battle. Later on, the myths were edited and Indra was said to do yoga before battle. Different means to the same end: achieving a state of heightened awareness.
Soma, ayahuasca, kykeon, etc, are not means of “storming the pearly gates of wisdom” as you say. They are tools that can show us our true potential, which we then have to work towards in our normal state. But they are not for everyone, and if your instincts are against them, you should not take them under any circumstances.
“Nobody can say they teach ‘truth’ because one can only teach what you understand and sometimes there is an intuitive blast-off.”
I am afraid I have to disagree with your agnostic stance here. Every art and science has its own truths. The science and art of attaining freedom, which is what we practice, is no different. The truths are not there for intellectual debate, they are a step by step instruction manual on how to liberate yourself, and their worth can only be gauged as, for example, the worth of a blade is gauged by a warrior. But I can see that it all bypasses you at the moment.
As I said, it takes years of consistent effort just to be able to understand the simplest concepts here. And putting them into practice takes a lifetime.
I will not pursue the subject any further. But I do hope nonetheless that one day you will understand what I have been talking about. I daresay, amarynth, that you are one of the most intelligent people here, but unfortunately, I can see that you don’t quite understand me. But that’s on me, for not being able to adequately convey the message.
Take care!
There certainly is. The western English spelling of Samkhya is incorrect – again from Sanscrit speakers, it should be Sankhya and certainly Vedanta. Presented as different schools of thought in English, the correct Sanscrit again is ‘templates’. Take a look. https://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/vivekananda/volume_2/practical_vedanta_and_other_lectures/sankhya_and_vedanta.htm
Jamshyd, you discuss what you want. I will just not go into this discussion here in any depth and have explained my reasons for that. I will certainly read what you have to say.
“Plato begins by having Socrates ask Glaucon to imagine a cave where people have been imprisoned from childhood, but not from birth. These prisoners are chained so that their legs and necks are fixed, forcing them to gaze at the wall in front of them and not to look around at the cave, each other, or themselves (514a–b). Behind the prisoners is a fire, and between the fire and the prisoners is a raised walkway with a low wall, behind which people walk carrying objects or puppets “of men and other living things” (514b).The people walk behind the wall so their bodies do not cast shadows for the prisoners to see, but the objects they carry do (“just as puppet showmen have screens in front of them at which they work their puppets” (514a)). The prisoners cannot see any of what is happening behind them, they are only able to see the shadows cast upon the cave wall in front of them. The sounds of the people talking echo off the walls, and the prisoners believe these sounds come from the shadows (514c).
Socrates suggests that the shadows are reality for the prisoners because they have never seen anything else; they do not realize that what they see are shadows of objects in front of a fire, much less that these objects are inspired by real things outside the cave which they do not see (514b–515a).
The fire, or human made light, and the puppets, used to make shadows, are done by the artists. Plato, however, indicates that the fire is also the political doctrine that is taught in a nation state. The artists use light and shadows to teach the dominant doctrines of a time and place.
Also, few humans will ever escape the cave. This is not some easy task, and only a true philosopher, with decades of preparation, would be able to leave the cave, up the steep incline. Most humans will live at the bottom of the cave, and a small few will be the major artists that project the shadows with the use of human-made light.
Plato then supposes that one prisoner is freed. This prisoner would look around and see the fire. The light would hurt his eyes and make it difficult for him to see the objects casting the shadows. If he were told that what he is seeing is real instead of the other version of reality he sees on the wall, he would not believe it. In his pain, Plato continues, the freed prisoner would turn away and run back to what he is accustomed to (that is, the shadows of the carried objects). He writes “… it would hurt his eyes, and he would escape by turning away to the things which he was able to look at, and these he would believe to be clearer than what was being shown to him.”
Plato continues: “Suppose… that someone should drag him… by force, up the rough ascent, the steep way up, and never stop until he could drag him out into the light of the sun.” The prisoner would be angry and in pain, and this would only worsen when the radiant light of the sun overwhelms his eyes and blinds him.
“Slowly, his eyes adjust to the light of the sun. First he can see only shadows. Gradually he can see the reflections of people and things in water and then later see the people and things themselves. Eventually, he is able to look at the stars and moon at night until finally he can look upon the sun itself (516a).”Only after he can look straight at the sun “is he able to reason about it” and what it is (516b).
Plato continues, saying that the freed prisoner would think that the world outside the cave was superior to the world he experienced in the cave and attempt to share this with the prisoners remaining in the cave attempting to bring them onto the journey he had just endured; “he would bless himself for the change, and pity [the other prisoners]” and would want to bring his fellow cave dwellers out of the cave and into the sunlight (516c).
The returning prisoner, whose eyes have become accustomed to the sunlight, would be blind when he re-enters the cave, just as he was when he was first exposed to the sun (516e). The prisoners, according to Plato, would infer from the returning man’s blindness that the journey out of the cave had harmed him and that they should not undertake a similar journey. Plato concludes that the prisoners, if they were able, would therefore reach out and kill anyone who attempted to drag them out of the cave (517a)”
Plato was an initiate of the Eleusinian Mysteries, as were Aristotle and Alexander of Macedon. The Eleusinian Mysteries were very secretive, and they were around for 2000 years, until Theodosius I shut them down by decree.
What Plato describes above is the essence of the Eleusinian Mysteries, albeit without revealing anything concrete. Revealing the Mysteries was punishable by death.
Marcus Aurelius and Julian the apostate, two of the wisest Roman emperors by all accounts, and perhaps two of the wisest men to have ever walked the earth, were also affiliated with the Mysteries. Marcus Aurelius rebuilt the temple of Demeter after it was sacked by the crude Iranian Sarmatians. And Julian was the last emperor to be initiated into the Mysteries.
The Eleusinian Mysteries were a brand of what I have labelled the art and science of attaining liberation, liberation from Plato’s cave.
Dear Amarynth,
What you say is true.No doubt about that. It is true that older people who do not eat fermented foods need to look into this Vit B issue. I take Vit C when needed and sometimes Vit E when the body gets hot and headache-like from being too long in the hot tropical sun. Babushka in Oz is right in what she has put up on vegemite. Of course I am privileged to have wholesome organic food, grains vegges and fruits. The conditions where I live are similar to Babushka in Oz which is also an advantage.
re Vitamin B
That is why us Aussies love our vegemite (concentrated yeast extract) – its packed full of Thiamine B1 (for brain function), Riboflavin B2 (support nervous system) , Niacin B3 (for energy release), and folate B9 (helps fight fatigue). It all there on the jar label.
(bet you won’t get such a grand list of ingredients on the vaccine label).
… plus we love our sunshine for Vit D and love our citrus for Vit C.
Aaah, now you want to start the Vegemite / Marmite debate (grins).
Marmite all the way for me, but we do not get it where I am, so I can just dream about a piece of hot buttered toast with (not too much) smear of marmite on it. Nothing else, no tomatoes, no walnuts (can you believe it), no lettuce that goes limp on the hot toast. Just hot toast, butter, and marmite! Yum ..
https://www.foodlovers.co.nz/features/foodlovers-blog/marmite-vs-vegemite.html
(Could never abide the meat version of this .. Bovril – I would get irritated with that stuff).
All This Talk of Vegies Rule!
Here’s my 2 cents as a meat eater. My mother was qualified upto a nurse and always educated my sisters and brothers how important meat was to balanced diet…. a portion of liver gives enough Iron supply for 3 months and females suffer particular with anemic due to low iron! Protein comes from fatty meat like nothing else supplying all the vitimins we need.
The Creator our Father specifically states for us to cull hoofed animals for food in the holy bible mentioned a few times. My biological father a pure meat eater, had a frightening strength and agility and was a foreman for a scaffolding firm. But hey everyone to there own as Sir Cliff Richard was strickky vegetarian, very healthy but not strong, and he never looked if he ever aged even in his 60s but he was not only Goyim but a true Christian so had to be destroyed by the Jew who branded him a pedophile and raided his home to make false allegations and thus he became a wretch…. poor lovely man that brought much happiness to our lives as my mother loved his concerts when in Glasgow.
sandinED
no I do not take b complex. but you can try fermented foods as there are for instance in traditional Indian cuisine. I will come back to you later
to sandin ED
try this maybe you will find answers there
https://sharan-india.org/people/dr-nandita-shah/
forgot to put the link
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier …
https://soap2day.cc/movie_aTo3Njk5Ow.html
Magnum Opus Credo
Jimi, Blue, and God
49. End (almost )
Here I end my strange
Little jimi, god, tale.
Brilliant artist, psychonaut extraordinaire,
He had the scent of the most high god
On and about him and
That was his undoing.
He was “locked out” by those
Who “kept the view”
And died alone.
I’m sorry I didn’t do more for him
When he was alive on earth.
For the nations, the watchers,
Those who “keep the view”
These verses will never be
Anymore than “the peyote poetry”
Of a “meandering mind.”
For those blessed with
“Purity of heart, chastity of soul,
And freedom of spirit” here
Is a stairway to worlds above.
Now please excuse me the
Maid of heaven wants to
Take me to a movie!
50. Epilogue
July 16, 1972
“Message to America
Woe unto you who have
Disbelieved in the oneness
Of the lord your god. You besmirched
My name . I came unto you and
You received me not. I will make of
Canada a great nation which will
Illumine the four corners,
The globe of this earth.
All praise to my lord the all-glorious.!”
The words are bad enough
But it was delivered to mrs. Bahai
In Toronto at 12:00 noon
Having been written with a red pen
Picked up in the centre’s
Shipping department: the sun overhead
Seemingly filled with blood,
Coursing through me and
Onto the paper.
PRETTY LURID! Is an understatement.
I felt like a little bird
In a mean boy’s hand.
That message always needled me
Especially when I realized last summer
It was given forty two years to the day
Prior to MH17 being shot down
Over the Ukraine. I wonder who
God thinks is ultimately responsible?
Do you think it’s a good omen?
Time to change the subject?
Are we ready for a new paradigm
As they say?
51. Gog Magog
Goodbye Gog and Magog!
The sun overhead is blood red!
Let me envelop you in an embrace
Before I let you go! I remember
And fulfill my promises, every one.
I said you would have your time
And you did.
You had your heaven!
Will you even be left with
Memories for your solace?
52. Hafiz
Hey, hey, hey!
Where is Hafiz now that
We’ve dashed the chess board and pieces
In a rage. Can he dish
Me out some patience?
(He’s not still thinking
About that old dog, is he? Wink, wink.)
53. Raging Heart
Yeah, you get me Hafiz.
You know my raging heart,
How hard it is to always be gentle.
You don’t laugh at my wrong notes
And I just call them blue.
54. Letter from the Room Full of Mirrors
It’s been forty seven years today
That you bathed your eye
“Above the same old tired skies”
And after walking in the forest
A couple of hours ago
I have to say: “Gasp! It IS physical!” (Too)
Ethel the Queenie is awesome
But the jury is still out on Terra Mama
And THEM.
Sail on!
FINI
Brother Blue Iconoclast
Brings this to mind; Kaki King and ETHEL – “Great Round Burn”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wDDTaKHj1I
Thank you for sharing your Opus, Last True Believer.
game of hide and seek
without beginning or end;
the one in many
Thank you Dimitar. It was “a season in hell”‘ to write. I’m going to post one more, much, much shorter. Thank you for the poem in the last cafe.
Were it not a “season in hell”, it’s doubtful it would’ve resonated the way it does. Best, D.
American doctors fight the big Pharma hype: Use of high dose Vit D discussed also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8SXOBy-4w&feature=emb_logo
https://drsircus.com/general/vitamin-d-ivermectin-better-solutions-to-covid-than-vaccines/
teranam13
Priceless find…. thank you!
France is in total lockdown until February. No one allowed out of their houses accept to buy essentials – from where / Someone I know flew back to UK today and told me this, he couldn’t find anything to eat, not even a mangy croissant. Fasten your seat belts world.
“access to the secret of being” (Jung)
let’s have a short break off from the covid- front for some reflections about eternity and the constellation of this week. Sun is in late autumn, and what is the autumn (on the northern hemisphere) yielding, if not Libra-, Scorpio- and Sagittarius-intensities : balance of mind, loyalty to the species and conciliating intuition.
Think a moment about the miracle of ‘normal’ health of the nano-universe living person.The archetypal actors in us are unfathomable old and experienced, knowing no insolvable problems for the being following their trails, they are genius of repair. A worm on a nano-level is immensely more that the best computer – as it is a potential of self-repairing and adaption, like no tool, made by us, is; they are old and experienced living ‘clouds of meaning’, ‘breathing’ parallel to the configuration of the heavenly year, Gods spark in the heart ruling the living clusters of archetypes, ruling programs of programs of programs, in quiet order, we fruits of their seeds. Nowhere if not in us we find the “secret of being”
The reflections on the current 50. week start with two humble giants, Wolfgang Pauli and Carl Jung
http://astromundanediary.blogspot.com/2020/12/50-week-in-mirror-of-psyche-in-matter.html
The astromundane diary provides the mine: spirit reflected by matter. The mining is up to you.
I’m glad you like Carl Jung. He makes most sense to me in his comments and essay in the Book of Change (I Ching) translated by Wilhelm (is that the one? Yelllow cloth cover).
I don’t have much of a brain, think more with my heart, i am in agreement with his idea of synchronicity. I worked in acute psychiatry for ten years in a large tertiary urban care centre. I also like a few other shrinks but my “old timers” causes me to forget them at present.
and this is the moment of posting my message above:
https://www.astro.com/h/pl_e.htm
The encounter of the unconscious
sorry, the chart changed. I didn’t hit the right button.
https://youtu.be/VZK6e3f8w3g
A son tenderly narrates his painful and poignant family story; above all he honours his mother’s resilience as they journey through abandonments, rejections, war, dispossession and more
how our world turns
A couple of classics for all of us in our of need:
Andrea Bocelli
(You will never walk alone)
https://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=YPYZK7NX
(Bocelli, Amazing Grace)
It is pretty tough for me to get thru Amazing Grace when emotionally performed as Bocelli does without breaking down!
Link to walk alone did not come thru:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLZtT1ogViA&list=RD60euxXvw5aA&index=10
I note the new article by Ramin on the Texas Lawsuit….using the lower vibration “secession” noun.
Unfortunate??
Dunno!.
Gotta read the whole article for context. Maybe he ends on a higher vibration “upbeat” optimistic note?? I’ll see when I get to that…………
Meantime MY vibration……………… which I modestly describe as “eclectically ironic & perpetually optimistic”:
/after-trump-the-flood/#comment-882798
which goes into the breaking news of the TEXAS suit against 4 Voter Disenfranchising states.
Which 17 other states have now joined.
So what is the most appropriate song???…… for This Supremely
(headed directly to the Supreme Court because ONLY the highest court in the land has jurisdiction when one (or many) state(s) sue 4 others that violated the constitution by thier judiciary and secretaries of state altering election laws……….instead of their state legislators…..)
Ironic Moment in History Where The SOUTH Has Risen Again……THIS Time to SAVE the Union???
This one, you 4 out of line seceding- from the US Constitution Delinquent Democrat Rat Bastard States:
The Eyes of Texas Are Upon YOU!
The eyes of Texas are upon you
All the live long days
The eyes of Texas are upon you
And you cannot get away
Do not think you can escape them
From night till early in the morn
The eyes of Texas are upon you
Till Gabriel blows his horn!
Hook’em horns! Then lock’em up……….
https://youtu.be/hAmiVntsLjk
It’s in this video of 3 songs and various clips from 1956 movie GIANT with James Dean, Elizabeth Taylor & Rock Hudson.
1 This, Then, Is Texas
2. The Eyes of Texas
3. The Yellow Rose of Texas
Saw it when I was 6 or 7 years old…..outdoor screen under the stars………. eastern Saudi Arabia.
There’s some Black Gold & Texas Tea in them parts too!
The Donald, waving his MAGA hat, to all in front and to the side:
“roll up rollup, get your event 201 – great reset Pfizer messenger RNA vaccine over here”
Adelson then pulls a string to turn him 180. Donald winks and, under his breath, whispers:
“billionaires exempt, digital ID not required”
Bro,
James Dean. August 08′ I was driving from Lancaster/Palmdale to SLO (San Luis Obispo) and my Skunk Works son pointed out the remote intersection where Dean was killed in his sportscar.
Dean grew up in Fairmont Indiana about 60 miles from where I’m sitting and his grave and Gallery is there.
I get/got around but……EASTERN SAUDI ARABIA!!!!!!!!???????
Hound
Israel not happy with “any” criticism as they go about their work of murder, violence, and destruction:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-summons-russian-ambassador-after-blistering-criticism-attacks-iran-syria
‘If you want to know who rules over you, learn who you cant criticize’ – often wrongly attributed to Voltaire
Regards
A well known Pharmaceutical ex-insider whistle blower well known across US and Canada, who publicly published 10 points to demonstrate that if she was found dead, she had been murdered’; that she never had had depression, she would never leave her beloved son, and had the best home protection possible, was today found dead at home by her 9 yr old son.
This is a lecture she gave one year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17UViszySSA
Sadly, she appeared to be a little unaware of modern methods of killing. They dont need to be able to get into your home anymore. There are poisons which dont activate for a few hours or days – and it can be slipped to you anyplace outside your home.
The lecture is horrifying, but true – those of us who study this field do know what she was talking about, and that it has been substantiated for some time.
RIP to a very brave, honourable lady, who tried to save people.
Anyone out there still want to take vaccines??
A former sales VP for a pharmaceutical company tells 60 Minutes he bribed doctors to prescribe fentanyl drugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1jLVP156_E
Today’s “News from Russia” – news that really is “fit to print” we have the happy tidings that:
“ Russia is no longer a colony of the West:
Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a package of laws that provide additional guarantees for the supremacy of the Russian Constitution and the priority of its operation on the territory of the country.
Recall that the package contains 5 initiatives with amendments to more than a hundred laws, including 6 codes: Civil, Family, Criminal procedure, Arbitration procedure, Civil procedure and the code of administrative procedure. Putin signed 4 of the Federal law. Amendments to the Family code have now passed the first reading in the state Duma.”
The second largest crop in the history of Russia. Ukrainian failure
he grain harvest in 2020 in Russia will exceed 131 million tons in net weight.
According to operational data of the agribusiness management bodies of the subjects of the Russian Federation, as of December 8, 2020, cereals and leguminous crops were threshed from an area of 46.4 million hectares or 99.0% of the harvesting area, 138.1 million tons of grain were threshed with a yield of 29.8 C/ha.
I felt that the next was interesting enough to include in toto. It’s shows more strengthening of Russian top line forces along the Russia – Baltic NATO line in response to US-NATO aggressive moves against the Russian Border.
The new division in Kaliningrad is our response to the strengthening of NATO in the Baltic States
“The Polish foreign Ministry recently stated that if the United States decides not to reduce its military contingent in Germany, it will be received with glee by the Polish people.
“A broader American presence in Europe strengthens our sense of security,” the Polish foreign Ministry said.
At the same time, the Ministry stressed that the refusal to withdraw troops from Germany will not at all mean a refusal to strengthen the American group in Poland itself, especially since just a month ago the field Directorate of the Fifth army corps of the US Army was deployed here, to which all the American land units available in Europe are subordinate. {my edit this sentence}.
In addition to everything else, it should be noted that in December 2020, according to the plans of Atlantic Resolve, the United States began an operation to transfer units of the 1st armored brigade from the 1st cavalry division stationed on the mainland of the United States to Poland. The brigade arriving in Europe includes a jet division of MLRS M-270 launchers capable of firing tactical missiles at a range of 300 km.
In their own way, the Lithuanian patriots feel a love for everything American, and they are happy to welcome the 2nd tank battalion of the 8th armored cavalry regiment, which is being relocated to the Baltic States from Germany. The battalion is armed with M1A2 Abrams tanks — the main battle tank of the US army and marine corps.
We should also recall the series of military exercises that the United States and other NATO countries conducted in close proximity to the Russian and Belarusian borders throughout 2020. And now, we’ve done a little extra work. The Russian military Department said that a new motorized rifle division will be formed as part of the Kaliningrad defense region — as a response to the strengthening of the NATO military group in this operational area.
There is nothing surprising in this decision — it was a timely and symmetrical response to the actions of our Western “partners”, who have been busy for a long time trying to create the maximum possible points of military tension in all possible directions. And Kaliningrad is a pain in the throat for NATO — because of its favorable strategic location, which opens up the possibility of controlling a significant part of the territory of NATO member countries that demonstrate their hostility towards Russia.
So, a new division. I dare to assume that the new division will become the “Phoenix” of the previously existing 1st guards Proletarian Moscow-Minsk order of Lenin, twice red banner, orders of Suvorov and Kutuzov motorized rifle division, which had glorious combat traditions and a worthy military path.
The base for the formation of the new formation, obviously, will be the 7th separate motor rifle regiment (which became the 1st guards division in 2008 after a series of reorganizations), as well as the newly formed 11th separate tank regiment and 46th separate reconnaissance battalion, the formation of which was previously announced by the Ministry of defense.
It is obvious that the new unit will become part of the 11th army corps, which is operationally subordinate to the Baltic fleet’s Coastal forces. Unknown, whether the division is located in the Kaliningrad region separate motorized rifle brigade, but even without her, apparently, the connection can be formed in a relatively short space of time — as experience shows, the formation of new divisions in the South-West direction, from the date of the first Declaration of intent to form a connection to the Ghost division in operational readiness, he passed two or three years.
The creation of the division in the first place. it should be considered as the readiness of the leadership of the Russian Federation to respond promptly and adequately to the challenges constantly generated by Western “partners”, supported by the bellicose rhetoric of a number of Western politicians who are not tired of making Russia an”evil Empire”.
In General, “agreed”. Now, live with a new division, if you “Iskander”, “Bastion” and S-400 was not enough.
Dear Pamela
As always, I’m grateful for your ‘news’ reports from Mother Russia
As another demonstration of synchronicity, I post here a short video on Konigsberg
https://youtu.be/rE4tOgQUSlw
which is now the Kaliningrad you mention here.
Further up thread I posted a moving family history which commenced in Konigsberg and ended with survival and dispossession. The young man who produced and narrated the film became just another of the dispossessed that is most of us.
Certainly moi, and the people from war torn Europe that I grew up with in the Bonegilla and Scheyville Holding Camp Australia of the 1950’s.
I was moved to tears watching that film, for many personal and idiosyncratic reasons, especially the fact that Konigsberg was so similar to the Dutch port cities of my early childhood post war Holland.
The further synchronicity involves the beautiful post from Babushka in Oz, who wrote a similar story in the previous Café, on how she has written down everything of her husband’s family story- same themes as above. Babushka then added a Russian video which again moved me to tears.
At that time I thought that subsequent generations of Babushka’s family would/should cherish the family history, as our world is changing so rapidly, again, that the collected narratives become pure treasure.
Once I post this I’ll go back to retrieve Other Babushka’s post to paste back here, to demonstrate Synchronicity.
All these seemingly disparate actions and posts are in actual fact, from Spirit :-)
Babushka in Oz on December 06, 2020 · at 11:07 pm EST/EDT
Hi Pamela
I too have had conversations with Germans in Oz who say similar things.
My husband and his family, lived under Stalin and then Hitler, then in displaced person camps under British occupation of post war Germany, and in Oz. Lots of stories to be told, which I have written down!
Don’t know if you have seen this video from 2014… When German Wolf and Russian Bear get together – the world will turn over.
“Russian and German people have lots in common. They are similar in their spirit, their values, their views of life. Unfortunately in the past they’ve been divided and forced into confrontation. They’ve been set apart and made enemy. Fortunately with the beginning of a new era the two great nations have a chance to unite and change the world for the better. The global awakening helps people to realise that the humanity has one common enemies – The Dark Directors, who organise all the wars and revolutions in the world, but always stay behind the scene. Strizhak calls them “nomads”, the ones who “proliferated around the world as a malignant tumor metastases”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl8RGLTMosc
~~~~~~~
A further PS
As New Australians ( until well into my adulthood as a woman married to an Australian Army officer, I had to annually register in accordance with the Alien Act 🤪) we were vigorously programmed to honour the English Queen and to absorb/become the epitome of all British ‘proprieties’. So of course as kids growing up on this massive isolated continent, I had nil idea of the Allied ( British) bombings of places like Dresden and Konigsberg.
I grew up with “White” Russian kids, Latvians, Greeks, Lithuanians, Finnish, Estonian, Polish, Yugoslavian et al, all of whose parents had been picked from the European refugee camps by Australian Labour Ministers, to provide the necessary slave labour force to build Australia.
Here we stand
Dear Babuška… I understand you on so many levels.
I was 7 years old when two new children (Jurgen and Rosemarie) with ‘funny accents’ arrived at my small country two teacher school of 26 pupils. The bossy older girls never included Rosemarie in our games. One day I found her sobbing, hiding in my secret spot behind the privet hedge. My baby sister has just died, so we sat together and both cried. It became our secret spot.
“In this world everything attracts something.
Those of the Fire attract those of the Fire;
Those of the Light attract those of the Light” — Rumi
Take care – there goes the timer – my Christmas cake about to come of the oven. (It smalls divine – sorry to tease everyone).
Thank You for sharing your precious memories, Babushka: so life-forming for all of us, even today, who take into our hearts the suffering of others, to be transformed into healing
Thank You also for the music below: inspiring!
Enjoy your Christmas cake with your loved ones and keep fighting the good fight.
The world is coming full circle with Konigsberg/Kaliningrad again ‘in the news’. I’m praying for unity between the Bear and the Wolf.
Apologies if I don’t always get back to reply as I get really busy then it’s a new Café /new beginnings
Blessings of peace and strength to You and all Café’ istas
Dear Babuska, and Babushka in Oz,
Thank you both for your posts – and for that lovely video of the hope of German and Russian reconciliation and growing closeness.
I didn’t respond before Babuska, not, believe me, because I didn’t notice, or plan to, but the opposite. Your words and those from Babushka in Oz sent me careering down a path of ideas, of visions and concepts. My head gets too full of these sometimes, like a room a teenager has left – messy beyond belief :-) {Probably no wonder I like my external environment to be very tidy and organised. :-) }
The little video reminded me of an interview in the 2 part documentary about President Putin with a top official German man, reminiscing about his Fathers recollections as a POW in Russia, and how decently he was treated, and his comment “we have to remember, we have both hurt each other very very much”. Also, talking of synchronicities, the video talked of a belief, that when Russia and Germany come together, the world will change – and I think of how desperately the Dark Powers are trying to stop that; using Merkel and her ilk to drive a wedge between them, trying to stop the Gas Pipe at all costs – maybe they too have heard this prediction.
It sent me off thinking, of the major mistake nearly everyone makes when it comes to the issue of other nations, peoples. It’s something called “silo-isation”. Making a silo. Like the massive wheat silo’s which characterise so much of Australian country landscapes, huge identical towering structures standing side by side – but with no intercommunication. Inside each one, billions of wheat grains each one identical to the others.
And we tend to think of peoples like this. The “silo” of Germany, and all Germans are like this that or the other, all the same. The “silo” of France, of Russia, of America.
But we aren’t grains, and we aren’t all like, because we aren’t separate. Floating through every silo is a universal energy of varying frequencies, and the people of nations belong to one of them. The lowest frequency being psychopaths, the sociopaths, the “normals” who have chosen self satisfaction at the expense of every value and virtue as the frequencies increase, increasing in range and expression, until the few very high frequency people of insight, true liberality, intelligence and integrity. How a nation is, at any given time, is seen by which frequency is in control, is ruling and effecting the rest of society – and in the Dark States, these are the lowest frequencies. But they aren’t all the people, there are other frequencies there too.
I was especially touched by your descriptions of being an immigrant child, and one often rejected. I’ve always felt deeply for the children especially of immigrants, and very much so if they have memories of where they know they came from. I think it’s why, in England and across Europe, it’s the children of immigrants who form gangs and criminals, and get into troubles. I think it must be so hard to have to struggle for your sense of identity. The parents are OK, they formed their identity in the land they grew up in and left, and keep it even though living in a foreign land– but the children must often feel they dont belong anywhere. Their birth country is no longer something familiar, and they dont feel at home there; the adoptive nation has a history, a culture, a mind set they dont identify with.
I remember sitting around a camp fire on a caving trip, and a German friend, also a child immigrant, saying to me “I came here [Aus] when I was 6 yrs old, to discover I was personally responsible for the deaths of 6 million Jews”.
I used to sit on my front porch in Townsville on hot tropical nights, gazing at the stars, thinking these things, and how I felt I didn’t belong anywhere, too long away from Britain, and never belonging in Aus, and the words of a Neil Diamond song came to mind;
” Well, Im New York City born and raised
But nowadays, Im lost between two shores
LAs fine, but it aint home
New Yorks home but it aint mine no more”.
I wonder if that’s how you felt sometimes. It’s one thing I admire you both for so much – that you had those struggles as children, with a childs very limited ability to reason and understand, yet you still fought through to be good adults who know who you are. It’s a struggle to get there, I know.
And I know how you never forget it. It gets that you are OK living with it, but it’s always there.
And the Kaliningrad synchronicity – it sounds like a title of a spy novel doesn’t it? :-) — yes, I dont know about you, but these days they are coming in thick and fast. Not always clearly understandable – only sometimes seen clearly after the event – but so many. Hardly a day goes by any more when I’m not seeing the time with its hour and 22, 33, 44, 55, minutes, many times a day even. And I have no idea why :-)
I feel I have to work to refine the “silo” metaphor and waves of mixed energies. I think we all need to work on that one.
Goodnight. Stay well.
Pamela… thank you… your silo metaphor is a gem.
Times are busy and much to prepare.
The cafe sparks so many ideas and hope to share.
No matter where we are we are connected by the same blue sky.
And down under is azure blue with soft clouds today.
Stay well.
Not too long ago I argued with someone who somehow believed that Stalin was “too soft” on Germany post-WWII and that he was wrong to oppose Churchill’s idea of a divided Germany.
Some of us here OTOH have maintained that the Anglosphere Allies initially supported Hitler for his efforts to destroy Russia. Similar stories have been written of the pre-WWI British Empire doing all it could to prevent comity between Germany and Russia, not unlike what you describe concerning Nord Stream II. The US and UK also had their own plans to attack the Soviet Union. Assuming that Stalin was aware of all this, it’s no wonder that he opposed the Morgenthau Plan and favored an independent, neutral and reunited Germany that would remain Russia-friendly, to the dismay of the US and UK.
Cases in point:
and this anecdote from Babuška
Slavoj Žižek’s philosophical thought here is perhaps required reading.
Zizek: There will be no return to normality after Covid. We are entering a post-human era & will have to invent a new way of life
“Agamben’s obvious conclusion is that, by rendering the face invisible, the protective mask renders invisible the invisible abyss itself which is echoed by a human face. Really?
There is a clear Freudian answer to this claim: Freud knew well why, in an analytical session – when it gets serious, i.e. after the so-called preliminary encounters – the patient and the analyst are not confronting each other face to face. The face is at its most basic a lie, the ultimate mask, and the analyst only accedes to the abyss of the Other by NOT seeing its face.
Accepting the challenge of post-humanity is our only hope. Instead of dreaming about a ‘return to (old) normality’ we should engage in a difficult and painful process of constructing a new normality. This construction is not a medical or economic problem, it is a profoundly political one: we are compelled to invent a new form of our entire social life.”
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/508940-normality-covid-pandemic-return/
Like most philosophers, Zizek has spent too long atop an ivory tower I feel.
There will no “post human” future. How can you have a future of humans which is “post – human”? It’s a contradiction in terms.
A future will come, no matter what. It will depend on the “what”, of course, but also a variety of multiple other factors. But as they always have, people will work to live, to help each other, to survive and still laugh and love.
Whatever evolves, it will come naturally and from the people. And we can have no way of knowing for sure what it will be.
It really depends on one main factor – will people be left alone to let the natural feedback loops of environment and reality work their way? Or if some entity or other seeks to control them, will people find a way to fight back?
My money’s on the latter because, again, you cant survive and live and love in a controlled environment. Whether they fight back by literally rebelling or just melting away into a different way of life – one way or another a human future will evolve.
After all, it’s been doing it for millennia upon millennia – why would it stop now ? :-)
Here is my ‘funny for this day’ for you Pamela (grins?
https://saker.community/2020/12/10/humanity-2020/
Lol – thanks amarynth – that did make me laugh.
“If only” eh??
Thanks, Pamela.
Here’s an interesting take on the “philosopher” from Sir Roger Scruton, “Clown Prince of the Revolution” – https://www.city-journal.org/html/clown-prince-revolution-14632.html
My favoured part: “If he had stayed in Slovenia, and if Slovenia had stayed Communist, Žižek would not have been the nuisance he has since become. Indeed, the release of Žižek into the world of Western scholarship could almost suffice to make one regret the collapse of Communism in Eastern Europe.”
OT, the RT congratulates itself: https://www.rt.com/russia/509153-rt-15-anniversary-congratulations/
@ Evodius
Apropos of that last link you provided, the RT self-congratulations: do these include congratulations for the abundance of soft-core pornography & bizarrest tabloid “sensations” that Margarita Simonyan keeps “treating” RT readership ad-nauseam with?
Here is an interesting development. There is a criminal investigation going on involving Hunter Biden and his dealings with China and his finances.
Now here’s the interesting part. It is actually being reported in the corporate media. I guess – now that they believe that they have Trump effectively beaten – they are setting up the takedown of Biden, so that Harris can be installed as President.
Harris is one of the Clinton gangs favorites (Read: Neoliberal and Neoconservative).
Mike, even Kamala doesn’t believe that “they have Trump beaten”.
If she did believe that, she would resign her US Senate seat. She has not done so to my knowledge. So watch to see if she ever does so. I don’t think she ever will, and I think that her present senate term will be her last ……….when Californians among many others finally are able to ACT (vote) in the upcoming elections where the theft of their vote………… en masse…………will no longer be happening.
Meanwhile 21 states with close to half the country’s population are suing 4 states with 8% of the population.
I have not heard the response of those 4 states yet, which was due to be submitted to the Supreme Court nearly 3 hours ago.
What’s even more interesting is that Donald Trump is able to join that lawsuit as a candidate…not as US president….and has done so….tweeting “This is the Big One”.
And furthermore…the Kill Shot….the most devastating evidence of all….has not been shown yet.
So..there’s no “effective beating” whatsoever. Only a fading perception of such in people snowed by the BS MSM Bullhorn and a lot of corrupt people in both parties who have been conditioned to become slaves to evil.
Meanwhile, it seems Tore will be part of the team working on Arizona……and a few days ago she gives a little hint that 2 indictments to do with The Steal are sealed and ready to go:
https://youtu.be/wFuZzuIwAx0?t=8864
Which comes before Hunter being seriously hunted. Which won’t help Kamala’s career one bit. Like many, many others…..all of this will END her career…………. sooner rather than later.
Cheers!
The ball is in the electoral colleges court next, they serve the citizens, they do not have to obey them.
If they choose to not vote for any reason(s), it would suggest they are wanting to wait for the next big vote to decide the senate race, and how to proceed after seeing the results.
This could still go right down to the wire.
Bro,
Maybe you are right. I don’t know. The country has become so corrupt that I have serious doubts that the courts will oppose the powers who actually run America.
On the other hand, the people in the Supreme Court are not stupid. Half of the country’s population is saying “no.” That might actually give the Supreme Court some reason to think it over.
It makes no difference either way. Harris is a typical spoiled-chlid-clueless-autocrat. If she wins, she will continue the policy of crushing average Americans to benefit the few. Eventually the situation will “blow up” in the faces of the oligarchy. The oligarchs are just too isolated by privilege to see what is coming.
On the other hand, if the Supreme Court shows some spine, it may be fatal to propaganda platforms like the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN and so on.
All those organizations have trumpeted over and over that “there is nothing to Trump’s claims of fraud whatsoever.” If, Supreme Court says the opposite, it might be the final blow to those so-called “news organizations.” Just how can they continue to claim to be “news organizations” when they never seem to get the “news” even remotely correct.
That is significant.
Once, the autocrats lose the “narrative game,” what do they have left but brute force? And using brute force against half the population is the beginning of the end.
Either way, we are headed towards the end game.
One small point.
The system has been this way forever.
Current events plus the net has exposed the power structure for all to see if they wish.
I offer no solutions to the situation. I live the life of a hermit and am satisfied.
And strangely enough, one mans (or country’s) ending, is another ones beginning. So lets reexamine China.
We are paying (the consumers of Chinese goods) to ramp up the robotics machine over there, each and everyday more bots are making more things freeing up the citizen to something else like say teach.
So with a billion Chinese and soon a half a billion bots making and packing and sending stuff, you’re looking at a soon to be formidable opponent, if one was looking for one.
Personally I would start gettin on their good side at some point in time, or there’s just no telling how big a machine can a machine make, if given enough time comes into play.
The ultimate quintessential woodchuck.
Rossiya, standing tall against the great reset https://xn--80aesfpebagmfblc0a.xn--p1ai/news/20201210-2006.html
At the end of the week, all regions will begin a large-scale vaccination of the population against the new coronavirus infection, Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Tatyana Golikova said at a briefing on Thursday.
“I would like to remind once again that in accordance with the instructions of the President of the country, at the end of this week, all regions will begin large-scale vaccination of the population against the new coronavirus infection. The receipt of the vaccine into civilian circulation and the replenishment of stocks of medical organizations is carried out as the quality control of the vaccine passes. Along with “Sputnik V” this week, 7.8 thousand doses of the “EpiVacCorona” vaccine of the State Scientific Center “Vector” will go into civil circulation, ”she said.
Golikova said that in the period from December to the end of February 2021, about 6.9 million doses of the Sputnik V vaccine will go into civilian circulation. The volume of vaccines received by the Vector Center during this period is now being estimated, the Deputy Prime Minister added.
Also, according to Golikova, the categories of the population were identified, which are subject to vaccination in the first place. “At the same time, the regions of the country, taking into account the epidemiological situation, have the right to change the priorities that are determined at the federal level, based on the vaccination coverage that develops in a specific situation in a specific region,” the Deputy Prime Minister noted.
Golikova also gave some advice to those who will be vaccinated. So, alcohol consumption should be limited. “I would urge you to listen very carefully to the official information that we give and the essence of which was not a ban, I emphasize, not a ban, but a restriction on the use of alcohol and drugs that affect and suppress the immune system,” Golikova said.
At the same time, she noted that one should refrain from drinking alcohol for three days before and after vaccination against coronavirus in order to form immunity. “I would recommend our citizens, who voluntarily make a decision on vaccination, for at least three days before vaccination and for three days after vaccination to refrain from drinking alcohol,” Golikova said.
In conclusion, the Deputy Prime Minister asked the Russians to limit the celebration of the New Year to a close circle of people, as well as to limit travel to regions and countries with a high incidence of coronavirus.
“Dear friends, the New Year is coming soon, our favorite holiday, we are preparing for it, but please take care of yourself and your loved ones, limit the celebration to a close circle, observe the mask regime in public places, limit travel to those regions and countries where the level The incidence of COVID is at a very high level, ”she said.
According to her, in this case, together with the started vaccination of the population, we will defeat “this terrible disease.”
Source: https: //stopcoronavirus.rf/
Excellent article on New Eastern Outlook by F. William Engdahl, regarding the breaking of a massive Covid scandal in Germany.
https://journal-neo.org/2020/12/10/coronavirus-scandal-breaking-in-merkel-s-germany-2/
The leading paragraph reads “The widely-praised German model of the Angela Merkel regime to deal with the COVID-19 pandemic is now engulfed in a series of potentially devastating scandals going to the very heart of the testing and medical advice being used to declare draconian economic shutdowns and next, de facto mandatory vaccinations. The scandals involve a professor at the heart of Merkel’s corona advisory group. The implications go far beyond German borders to the very WHO itself and their global recommendations.”
Well worth a read.
To roughly paraphrase a well known poem “I have much to write, and many miles to go, before I sleep”.
However, maybe it’s time to slow down at the end of the day so I offer this marvellous young Cymraeg {Welsh } boy treble – enjoy a few minutes of bliss
https://yandex.ru/video/preview/?text=Cai%20Thomas%20singer&path=wizard&parent-reqid=1607644831970201-1807406436959737371200163-production-app-host-man-web-yp-1&wiz_type=v4thumbs&filmId=13982198730785608720
This is remarkable indeed. Engdahl’s penetrating analyses are always well researched and documented. Thank you Pamela.
Pamela,
how about this, nobody has ever checked if test kits are fit for purpose, self-declaration by the manufacturer is all that’s required :
“….There are literally 100s of CE marked Covid RT-PCR tests available on the EU market.
Such tests require a self-declaration process undertaken by the manufacturer with no review of performance data by any EU Government Body or Notified Body and that MHRA does not approve such products….”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/rt-pcr-kits-vaccines-unlicensed-mhra/5731837
MHRA being the Medical and Healthcare Regulatory Authority – don’t bother to certify. It’s apparently not deemed important enough. It’s not as if this is the first time these tests have been shown to be unreliable. See ‘ the Epidemic that never was ‘ from Dartmouth in 2007 reported here by the New York Times :
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/health/22whoop.html
Not to mention how many doctors and scientist have come forward and debunked them. How about this, Matt Hancock ( the health minister who fakes tears of joy on TV at the vaccine ) had a neighbour who ran a pub – he now supplies covid test kits – and no he has no experience in medical supplies whatsoever – his kits will be going through ‘ a self-declaration process ‘.
Oh and this same PCR test is being used in vaccine testing.. So a test that is not fit to identify the virus in the first place, is then used to assess the efficacy of the vaccines, ( whose contents are a secret ). Well I’m sure that’s all fine.
Pamela – am I missing something ? Or is this as shocking as it looks to me ?
Say it ain’t so, Joe please
Say it ain’t so
That’s not what I want to hear Joe and I’ve got a right to know
Say it ain’t so,
They told us that our hero has played his trump card
He doesn’t know how to go on
We’re clinging to his charm and determined smile
But the good old days are gone
The image and the empire may be falling apart
The money has gotten scarce
One man’s word held the country together
But the truth is getting fierce
Say it ain’t so, Joe please
Say it ain’t so
We pinned our hopes on you Joe and they’re ruining our show
(Ooo Babies)
Don’t you think we’re gonna get burned
(Ooo Babies)
Don’t you think we’re gonna get burned
We’re gonna get turned
We’re gonna get learned
Cause we’re gonna get turned
We’re gonna get burned
We’re gonna get learned
Yes, we’re gonna get burned
We’re gonna get turned
We’re gonna get learned
Yes, we’re gonna get turned
We’re gonna get learned
Say it ain’t so, Joe please
Say it ain’t so
That’s not what I want to hear Joe and I’ve got a right to know
Say it ain’t so, Joe please
Say it ain’t so
I’m sure they’re telling us lies Joe please tell us it ain’t so
They told us that our are hero has played his trump card
He doesn’t know how to go on
We’re clinging to his charm and determined smile
But the good old days are gone
Say it ain’t so, Joe please
Say it ain’t so
We pinned our hopes on you Joe and they’re ruining our show
The image and the empire may be falling apart
The money had gotten scarce
One man’s word held the country together
But the truth is getting fierce
Say it ain’t so, Joe please
Say it ain’t so
That’s not what I want to hear Joe and I’ve got a right to know
Say it ain’t so, Joe please
Say it ain’t so
I’m sure they’re telling us lies Joe please tell us it ain’t so
Oooooo
That’s not what I want to hear Joe and I’ve got a right to know
Roger Daltrey 1977 cover Murray Head
https://youtu.be/9bVGTVrQd6M
In the same mindset
My favourite song at the moment – an oldie from 1984 but even more so today
We’re not gonna take it (with lyrics)
by Twisted Sister.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ0ftoiIQxU
No Sandy – you’re not missing a thing. You’re just suffering from the “I can’t believe this is what it clearly seems to be” shock, common to the honest mind perceiving the depths of perfidy of some minds; of the intelligent mind perceiving the utter stupidy of others. And the horror of trying to accept as true, the existence of those who carry that most vitriolic of combinations – both; what I call the “malign stupid”!!
The blatancy of it all is shocking me too. We’ve known for a long time about the degrees of combined stupidity and corruption – after all, didn’t the brilliant TV series “Yes Minister” and “Yes, Prime Minister” way back when, show it up in all it’s malign stupidity.
But at least there seemed to be a perceived need to keep fooling the “masses”; to retain some respect;, to have us think well of them. Now – they clearly dont give a damn what we see of them or what we think. They have the MSM in their back pocket obeying their every dictate; they have the police onside as violence by police to demonstrators in countries across the Empire + vassals has shown, now it’s a case of “Do as we order, or else”.
The example you give is truly appalling – but sadly as long as the “5% different” are choosing silence, the 90% passive are going to accept just about anything – and this, I fear, is what has dawned on the Predators of the Ruling Class currently running the show.
It’s a bad look out.
Pamela,
The fact that there was a phantom epidemic caused by the PCR test in 2007 – which was acknowledged as such – suggests to me that it was recognised, then deployed as we see today. Some hope in the form of the lawsuit in Germany. See from the following article / video, the ‘ Panic Paper ‘ :
“…..the sole reason the PCR test is used, and used in an incorrect way, is to create enough fear that no one will question the pandemic measures being put into place and simply do as they’re told. He goes on to review the so-called “Panic Paper,”23,24 written by the German Department of the Interior.
This classified paper, which was leaked to the press, reveals there was an intentional plan at the level of the German government to drive people into a panic.
One of the strategies laid out in the paper was to guilt children into compliance, to make them feel responsible “for the tortured death of their parents and grandparents if they do not follow the anti-corona regulations.” According to Fuellmich, what we have is a staged PCR test pandemic. It’s not a lethal virus pandemic, “and I can prove this in court,” he says……”
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/12/05/coronavirus-lawsuit.aspx
I wish Reiner Fuellmich every success – he estimates that there will be similar actions in 50 other countries – he’s a brave man.
That link is fantastic Sandy – thank you very much.
I suspect that Dr. Fuellmich is honest and truthful – and that he has the expertise and strength to carry it through. What worries me is – I have no illusions about the utter ruthlessness of the enemy, as I’m sure none of us here do. I hope to God he is protected.
This article exposes the lockdowns as cruel and unusual punishment. From it :
“….In reality, the vast majority of people who end up with a positive test will not develop symptoms and aren’t infectious. Needless to say, if you’re not infectious, you pose no health risk to anyone, and being placed under what amounts to house arrest is nothing but cruel and unusual punishment for no reason whatsoever.
Positive Test Rates Have No Bearing on Mortality Rates….”
– but hey are good for stoking fear / justifying lockdowns / selling vaccines.
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/12/04/do-asymptomatic-people-spread-coronavirus.aspx
Pascal Sacre explained all this months ago, ( he was fired for his efforts ) but this article does include some updated data.
Hmm… Does Mr. Putin still hope to be accepted in the exclusive Western Club?…
Russian Navy ships will participate in exercises with NATO for the first time in 10 years
https://rns.online/industry/Korabli-VMF-Rossii-pouchastvuyut-v-ucheniyah-s-NaTO-vpervie-za-10-let–2020-12-10/
“For the first time in 10 years, Russian ships of the country’s Navy will take part in joint exercises with NATO countries AMAN-2021, TASS reports with reference to the press service of the Russian black sea fleet.
“In Sevastopol, a planning conference on the participation of the Russian Navy forces in the international exercise AMAN-2021, which will be held in the waters of the Pakistani port of Karachi, took place online,” the report says.
Representatives of more than 30 countries will participate in the exercise, about 10 of them will use their ship’s personnel, while others will simply send official observers. In addition to the Russian and Pakistani ships, the US Navy, the Royal Navy of great Britain, the Chinese Navy, the Maritime self-defense forces of Japan, the Navy of Turkey, the Philippines, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, and the Royal Malaysian Navy will participate in them.
It is noted that the ships of the Russian Navy will conduct joint exercises with the Navy of the North Atlantic Alliance 10 years after the completion of the previous exercise Bold monarch-2011, which took place off the coast of Spain.
The Russian fleet will be represented by the forces of the black sea fleet, including a frigate, a patrol ship, a rescue tug vessel, a marine infantry unit, a mine-clearing unit and a sea-based helicopter.”
President Putin’s first request to join NATO was to demonstrate the real nature of the beast.
By declining, NATO revealed that US-NATO’s strategy in dealing with Russia hasnt changed since US diplomat and historian George Keenan’s famous 1964 ‘long telegram’ advocating the containment of Russia (which in more recent times morphed into a containment of China, see https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Geographic_Boundaries_of_the_First_and_Second_Island_Chains.png/800px-Geographic_Boundaries_of_the_First_and_Second_Island_Chains.png )
@ T
Lemme understand this: To show to others that a notorious criminal gang is bad, one tries to join the gang, and when one is refused – voila! the proof!
Gee, how haven’t I seen this before………….
There will be 30 countries there. You guys never heard of a concept such as the Olympics?
Don’t fall for the header out of the west. The Naval News simply reports:
“Russian Black Sea Fleet to participate in AMAN-2021 naval exercise in Pakistan”
“Russian Navy’s Black Sea Fleet will participate in the AMAN-2021 military exercise, which will take place in February 2021 in Pakistani waters, together with Navies of 30 other countries, including NATO ones, the fleet press service announced on 10th December.”
https://navalnews.net/russian-black-sea-fleet-to-participate-in-aman-2021-naval-exercise-in-pakistan/
Altho the article is overtly political (as the duopoly is really an ongoing psy-op on the American people) Im posting simply as an FYI:
A neurotoxic insecticide, Chlorpyrifos, is banned in the EU. The EPA just agreed to keep it legal here in the US
https://www.salon.com/2020/12/08/chlorpyrifos-neurotoxic-pesticide-remains-legal-in-us-epa-trump/
To be forewarned is to be forarmed
Pfizer, BioNTech vaccine docs exposed in EU regulator hack
“Law360 (December 9, 2020, 2:14 PM EST) — Regulatory documents related to a COVID-19 vaccine candidate produced by Pfizer and BioNTech were “unlawfully accessed” during a cyberattack at the European Union’s top authority for approving medicines, the companies said Wednesday.”
https://www.law360.com/consumerprotection/articles/1336232/pfizer-biontech-vaccine-docs-exposed-in-eu-regulator-hack
Some cafe’istas may find this interesting:
A 7-Part Series Explores How Exposure to Toxins Damages Health and Human Development
Webinars feature presentations by top environmental health scientists and experts (incl embedded vid)
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/7-part-series-how-exposure-toxins-damages-health-human-development/
Regards
Interesting fact: A vote of 17 – 4 with 1 abstention suggests the efficacy of this vax is a matter of opinion
“A Covid-19 vaccine to be deployed in the U.S. as soon as this weekend won the expected backing of a group of government advisers on Thursday. A Food and Drug Administration panel voted 17 to 4, with one abstention, that the benefits of a vaccine developed by German-based BioNTech and U.S.-based Pfizer outweigh any risks. The FDA doesn’t have to follow such recommendations, though it often does.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-10/fda-advisers-scrutinize-pfizer-s-covid-shot-for-clearance-vote
See this in context w/ my earlier post on the FDA’s vote on the Pfizer-BioNTech vax:
‘Sausage Making at FDA: How Human Cancer Cells Got Into Vaccines’ – by RFK Jr
“In a 2012 meeting, the FDA voted to allow the use of human fetal cells and adult human tumor cells in vaccines, despite acknowledging the many risks, including that vaccine recipients might later develop cancer.”
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-cancer-cells-in-vaccines
The Aussie govt just cancelled research into our home grown vaccine because some of the guinea pigs (human trial) recipients have tested false positive to HIV.
So we will have to have Phifser or Moderna!!!
Looks like a PR exercise to tells us “look how careful we are… so careful and concerned for your health…”
See how they groom us to accept this bs.
Babushka in Oz … I thought likewise …
Unexpected side effect? Australia scraps Covid-19 vaccine development after trials lead to false positives for HIV …
https://www.rt.com/news/509312-australia-coronavirus-vaccine-hiv-test/
My concern is, are we going to be made an offer we cannot refuse ?
Interesting in a UK care home I know of today…virtually all the staff refused to the priority offer of vaccinations….had to fill in a form to accept or refuse and say why not. They just do not trust it….think they are being used to prove it.
However news tonight UK Oxford group is to examine combining theirs with the Russian one! What an admission….and an embaressment to UK politicians and media who have denigrated and refused to acknowledge the Russian one.
Dispatch from the bowels of the techno-fascist Beast:
Governor of California has put most of the State on total lockdown. No gatherings of any kind in any number inside or outside. Masks at all times–everywhere. Our social club meeting did not discuss the most recent edict from the County health department but the President did post it up on the window of the closed and shuttered clubhouse.
So I trotted up to check it out. There was posted a very involved flow chart in a print size mostly unreadable for senior citizens. It had a definition of “isolation” and “quarantine” but no elucidation on how one knew one had “thingie-induced” infection requiring you to go to the” isolation” part of the flow chart because the powers that be want everyone to think that if they have a positive PCR test they are automatically “infected” thus requiring “isolation”.
It was the most bizarre piece of medical misinformation that one could imagine. At one point it required you to repeat the test on day 5, 9 and 12 . So who is going to pay for all these expensive tests? Remember, this is greed and fraud-driven America. Oh, and a negative test, it darkly suggested, doesn’t mean you don’t have to
re-test.
Curiosity got the best of me since a man who tested positive around the end of November rang my doorbell to tell me that his wife had been hospitalized with shortness of breath after getting positive test results and so he would not be able to help me fetch the community Christmas tree as he had promised.
Now, the guidelines said that if you spoke with someone more than 15 minutes ( sure, I always time my casual conversations which my smart phone may or may not be secretly recording) and if they were not 6 ft distanced (this man is slightly deaf but , of course, I measure my distance from everyone all the time these days so I am certain he was closer than 6 ft) and if they had a positive “thingie” measurement, then one is socially obligated to self quarantine for 24 days. IF. ( yes, I started to giggle a bit hysterically at this point) you refuse to take any PCR tests. Now if obtaining a negative test means nothing why would anybody even bother to play that rigged game in the first place?
The truly frightening aspect of all this is that these bozos have State Power!!!
Dominion systems are connectable to the internet for refined “adjustments”. I don’t think Dominion has a very bright future ahead of it post Nov 3, 2020…..do you, once Trump is inaugurated a second time???
An immutable public ledger technology (blockchain) …………which came into the ken of millions with the arrival of Bitcoin a decade + ago ….. can powerfully disincentivize fraud in falsification of ALL kinds of data….besides just votes. But secure unhackable election voting would certainly be an improvement, would it not???
So it is quite curious that dave salmond and Alabama and others are as snide as they are about the “peer to peer electronic cash system” (Bitcoin) needed to maintain and run and make payments on such an honesty incentivizing public ledger technology.
Or maybe they didn’t realize that there is any connection??
I assure you, there is.
However amarynth first and I second have labored occasionally to even set out some of the basic vocabulary necessary to talk about that “space” and its relationship to the more discussed topics here….with extremely modest success..or even rare feedback of any kind.
Relax! This subject won’t bite.
But I suppose that It is either too hard too grasp or simply too alien, evidently, to most persons here……. to even stimulate a childlike natural curiosity in them, like it did in my experience.
In the last 3-4 years since I read amarynth’s article The Internet of Money I quickly became familiar with her view of it ………….and about 18 months later ….I became convinced that the vision of the inventor was orders of magnitude greater than her view of it which, though it had SOME appeal initially for me, that appeal sort of wore off as being “unneeded” or not critically needed………..compared to new ideas on the subject that I soon discovered…..which unfortunately seemed to upset her…and she openly wished to discourage…if not outright censor that which differed from her “preferences” in that realm.
Why?? Because the inventor of Bitcoin HAD to step away from the project for several years of it to be distributed…instead of ruled over by him…or any one person or group…which would have doomed it to never, ever being globally or even massively adopted for use by others….and others took public positions of “leadership” dealing with this new invention and she formed bonds of fellowship with quite a few of them??
Possibly! And understandably…….
There’s an article on Medium.com called the Paradox Of the Centralized Starting Point..which I will search for again (I read it many months ago) but right now, I just found find a new iteration of those same initial themes in an article dated yesterday.
At risk of setting off those who find this subject somehow naughty or dirty….(That’s THEIR problem, the poor blokes!)…… the title is:
Bitcoin: Satoshi Nakamoto Naked
https://sirtoshi.medium.com/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-naked-3dd28013bd7e
The first sentence:
“Who is (the man behind the mask) the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto? To reveal who he is we must first uncover what has been done.”
And there’s the rub, ladies and gentlemen:
Because after the mysterious pseudonymed individual “left” (stopped posting on Reddit and offering guidance, explanations, etc thereby cutting off further interaction with “the community” for an extended period of a few years…..he was subsequently “outed” 4 years or so later by Wired Magazine….before he was ready to surface…..so he denied everything….THEN! Said he wasn’t Satoshi.
All that changed in November 2018 when Craig Stephen Wright proclaimed himself to be Satoshi Nakamoto….and to be “back” to rescue his invention from changes in the protocol by people that did not understand or agree with HIS design.
These abrupt but understandable contradictions promptly alienated those that had taken an early interest in his design….especially those that now had VERY big egos as a result of getting in so early and getting so wealthy by doing so.
Meanwhile, I decided he makes tons more sense than they do.
While amarynth decided he is “crazy” and was she was for a time prone to “flipping out” and calling for censorship of any narrative contradicting the ones she likes in regard to that controversial individual.
A great many other in “the space” shared that reaction with her, and one of the most vocal was an Englishman who dubbed the Aussie Craig Wright “Faketoshi” and “a fraud”.
The twits on Twitter agreed with that assessment. However agreement, even amongst untold thousands of people is not necessarily reality. “Proof of Social Media” in other words…… gossip….is no proof at all.
What is much closer to proof ………..is a court verdict.
But Wright could not sue everyone calling him a fraud …and calling him “Faketoshi”…so he picked out only a few…..and one is the Englishman Peter McCormick….. unrelenting since late 2018 in his public disdain for Mr Wright. Peter is a public promoter of the perversion of the original Bitcoin…and its “ticker symbol” BTC…which all but a few persons in the space ……..consider to be “Bitcoin” because it has the High Price for the moment although it…………..doesn’t….can’t really …DO anything that the Original Bitcoin was created to do!.
Another post will show that to be the case: 3-7 transactions per second capability may get you $19,000 per BTC today because of general belief……but that pathetic performance….with ridiculously high fees will never get you to use as “peer to peer electronic cash”. NEVER.
The Mighty Bitcoin………….became Mickey Mouse…but quite high-priced BTC……………..while what Wright set about rescuing, restoring the original protocol to at about 1% the dollar or euro or pound price of BTC .currently ………Bitcoin Satoshi Vision has demonstrated its capacity to perform with transaction fees 1/10,000th to 1/30,000 as much as BTC, and “scale” massively.
However, beliefs are not easy things to change, so Wright persisted in his libel suit against Peter McCormack.
The Court date was set for May 2021…..but Peter McCormack’s lawyers sought out Wright’s lawyers and asked for a pre-trial settlement, very recently….while Wright asked for and got an expedited Trial Date!
My purpose is not to give amarynth a terrible time on this subject …but since we have some agreements on some things…..nuclear energy….space exploration…..climate change being the transparent “scientific” hoax that it is…..to offer an olive branch…just in case it is even possible to acknowledge that an inventor of something……. may know more about that invention than any other human being.
Because it just may be that the court verdict validating the admissible proof will come in as little as two months, now……and Peter is evidently ALREADY convinced that Wright is Satoshi, as emotionally and financially painful as it is for him to admit to such a thing….after 2 straight years of calling him “Liar, Fraud, Faketoshi.”:
https://coingeek.com/peter-mccormack-confirms-craig-wright-provided-crazy-amount-of-evidence-he-is-satoshi-as-trial-date-set/
Peter McCormack confirms Craig Wright provided ‘crazy’ amount of evidence he is Satoshi as trial date set
BUSINESS 8 DECEMBER 2020
Jordan Atkins
The U.K. High Court set a trial date for the Wright v McCormack libel case. The trial will begin on February 16, 2021.
The trial was originally scheduled for May 4, 2021, but the Court had accepted a request by Wright’s lawyers to expedite the trial.
While this trial is set to run for two days, Wright’s lawyers are expected to revive an application for summary judgment that was rejected two weeks ago due to a paperwork error. Granting that application would have ultimately ended the suit with Wright the victorious party, but the parties may now correct the error and try again on February 16, meaning we may not see the case go to trial at all.
This would be a shame, because Peter McCormack confirmed on Twitter that Wright submitted a ‘crazy’ amount of evidence that he is indeed Satoshi Nakamoto:
That much could be inferred by Tether’s sudden withdrawal of support for McCormack after discovery had concluded in the case, but seeing this tweet from McCormack reinforces that the trial would have been a great opportunity for this evidence to be brought into the open. This is apparently not in the interests of either Tether or McCormack, who now seem ready to be done with calling Wright a liar.
CoinGeek will be covering the February trial as it happens.
END of Article.
My own view is that Wright (the owner at any given time of at least a million of each of the claimants to the Bitcoin Brand……BTC….BCH….and BSV plus a major force in “mining” for a dozen years…….and thus one of the thousand wealthiest persons alive……. ) doesn’t need the money from ruining McCormack financially or reputationally …..but does want the court to certify to the world who he, in fact, is.
So all that “crazy” overload of evidence that made Peter’s backers and Peter “fold” like an umbrella…..may yet be seen in court in ten weeks time…..or less…without any settlement that hides the evidence from the world…or any summary judgment that cuts its presentation in court…..too short.
Should that happen…..the author of that Medium article…..pseudonym Sir Toshi…the Brash Brit as I have called him…forecasts some rather dynamic…or one might say “violent” or “volcanic” upheavals coming at us very fast…just ahead in 2021 …. in what some call Crypto (Wright is rigorous with his terms …says Bitcoin….aka Bitcoin Satoshi Vision is NOT a cryptocurrency…because its code is not encrypted) or simply “Bitcoin”.
Furthermore he will assert (AND: I’ll give any trustworthy, sincere volunteer a few dollars worth of Satoshi’s to access his videos on Streamanity….@ 20 cents an hour to view through the Moneybutton App) that Nakamoto’s invention WILL have a role in a Human Reset of the scores or hundreds of trillions of dollars worth of unpayable fiat denominated debt piled up on humanity’s head…..and in Heading Off Klaus’s “Post Human” Covid Reset NAZI Abomination.
Nothing to snicker over, guys!
LOL
Bro93, you are not to advertise or promote BSV or any other cryptocurrency or any cryptocurrency which you call ‘not cryptocurrency’ on The Saker Blog. It is the long-standing policy and has nothing to do with censorship.
You are also not to advertise or promote Moneybutton or any other such 20cents per hour product or other products on the blog. It is a long-standing policy.
It is also not my policy but is The Saker’s policy. So be somewhat careful on accusations of censorship.
Even if you feel an evangelical fervor to promote these products, I believe The Saker will not allow you, so it is better to just stop these things and be a little respectful.
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There is too much convoluted more evangelical detail in this post to even bother. Bro even knows what I think. Hahaaaa ….
Oh the grapevine. I’ve heard tell that some do not believe me.
Well here is the promotion:
https://twitter.com/SirToshiTV/status/1337466158371528705
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and that is the end of the tweet that is copyable – there is more, not copyable.
And here is the previous p(b)romotion
Only an Android or I-Phone is required…….. anyone else……Paul…..Sandy …..Tommy A …..anyone one that’s just dying to refute and prove me wrong on this AND Trump………. (like my crypto-buddy I answer here…even HER!!!!) ………..with a smart phone (needed for two FREE programs to install and then receive a small amount of the “digital money” with which to access content that is NOT free…that requires 20 cents worth…per approximate hour of Content Known Only To The Inner Elites………..can take me up on my offer!
Do it now everyone – for .20 per hour you too can have content known only to the inner elites. Just install these little free programs on your phone. (Obviously, I am not serious with this sentence). The video presenter is of the shock jock style if you know that term. He derides everything other development in the cryptocurrency space and pays copious attention to the ‘savior’, i.e., Craig Wright.
So, what is the two pieces of software? A BSV wallet and a Moneybutton connector. And here is the content:
https://streamanity.com/video/qAFBSetvuYIm
And here is a challenge. Go through Bro’s tweet and find me anything that is *not* BSV – anything that gives you a clear understanding (and believe me, it is difficult now because complexity has increased by orders of magnitude) of the overall say 10 cryptocurrencies (the real ones, not the wrappers or the stablecoins) measured on coinmarketcap not because I like it, but because it is easy to view and understand. https://coinmarketcap.com/
So, for education and it fits with the banking discussion that is hanging out there, I have two pieces for cryptocurrencies which I will post in the next days. The one is answers to the divisibility by 8 and the reasons for that, and the other is a critical review of the 4 (yes, we now have 4) proof of work (POW) Bitcoins against the properties of hard money which has been discussed – you got to be able to trade with it i.e, pay and be paid, you got to be able to save it, i.e., a store of value and the idea of a unit of account.
We will also look at what a good crypto is … internet money that is open, borderless, neutral, censorship-resistant, immutable and permissionless…
Somewhere in there, I will detail the magic – what is the magic of this. I would really again recommend Andreas M. Antonopoulos. Here is one – interview from Peter McCormack with Andreas and really good. Forward to about 3:40 to skip the promotional stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpcZ1DvCAf8
Andreas is really knowledgable and enjoyable as a speaker.
He talks about money as ‘the giant surveillance system’ and enabling of corrupt criminal activity through money flows.
Hi Bro,
After earnestly reading your post, I feel like I just got off of a merry-go-round, (as I often do). I honestly cannot figure out what you were trying to say. I think you do have a lot to share on the crypto subject, but I wish it was stated in a bit more plain speak.
K
He is running an infomercial promotion kinterra, for the BSV (Bitcoin Satoshi Vision) blockchain with Moneybutton a payment software.
So, he tries to hide this promotion by pretending this paid for information is so important that we can’t possibly ‘censor’ it. Bro knows not to promote his chain here.
So, you too can have more information than the elites, if you just install these two pieces of software on your phone, pay .20cents per hour and you too can be as elite.
It’s just a blockchain, one of thousands but one of the four main POW chains. POW is for proof of work, in other words a coin that is mined. Others have a different philosophy, POS, or proof of stake.
The Craig Wright stuff is just promotion because Wright thinks he is Satoshi Nakamoto and of course the God of Crypto and all the crypto in the world belongs to him. Very Trump like.
Take a look at Wright. This is called the fraud timeline. https://seekingsatoshi.weebly.com/
Stuff in this world is highly documented.
Thing is, nobody cares. The Bitcoin White Paper is still the guiding document and if Wright wrote it, I am the wife of Napoleon or possibly Einstein himself. Some of us were actually around.
I’ll do an update on the POW chains and Ethereum. Lots of things have happened in the last two months.
I am in the camp of the reservist, non specialist opinion hoard due to lack of the kind of expert knowledge that amarynth and Bro have.
I do have a basic idea on the way it operates and has unfolded, and it is of great interest. This is from independent, international viewing sources. Bro’s post was informational as far as I could tell, I am pretty sharp on people who want to sell me or convince me of their superior products.
The brief development and history of electronic, or digital currency, has to be important, that much is clear to me, there is too much at stake for it to be buried.
kinterra, I believe you that you earnestly read the posts, I guess people write how they like or want to,
Merry go round, why get on, they’re awful, carefully read the main points and conduct your own research based on the many links provided, try to go for the essentials and the big picture all at the same time. Just a thought,
Tuppence (in my wallet)
I recon there’s going to be a ripper opportunity for some gun little entrepreneurs to sell bespoke paper bags with eye holes. All those poor muppets who develop facial paralysis and other disfigurements from their toxic little poke of hope are going to need somewhere to hide. You could push them alongside the o’so useful face masks with a hole in the front that lets you have a smoke without removing it.
China’s new suspension bridge integrating high-speed road and railway has been put into operation in the country’s eastern province of Jiangsu, state news agency Xinhua reports.
The Wufengshan Yangtze River Bridge has reportedly broken the world record for the fastest running speed of 250kph. The road-rail suspension bridge is 6.4km in length with a main span of 1,092 meters.
https://www.rt.com/business/509313-china-suspension-bridge-record/
… Saker (bird) Hospital in Dubai …
https://youtu.be/zUu8K3e9oEg?t=776
(timed video)
… not Dubai, but Abu Dharbi … here is more …
… Abu Dhabi Falcon Hospital …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry1748zSOzg
There sure are indicators that The Great Reset is beginning to be not so great and actually unraveling.
Andrei Martyanov’s last piece is just a joy.
” Matt Purple Begins To Suspect Something.
Matt Purple of The American Conservative concludes that:
Our Elites Couldn’t ‘Reset’ a Wall Outlet, Let Alone the Global Economy ”
Here is an I told you so and with joy because it is beginning to unravel. I said right in the beginning that The Great Reset was a Western Fumble (or words to that effect) and is not Global. People got angry with me. Russia is now ignoring the EU mainly, and China is ignoring everyone by the looks of things excepting to sling sanctions back where they came from. Iran is sailing across the seas to Venezuela in support of their oil trade. Venezuela has just had a good and clean election and is begging the US to please demote Guaidó and send them some real opposition because their opposition is failing lol. We see the process of multilateralism and multipolarity in our world continue.
Watch, this Great Reset is now beginning to show itself as just an empty bag. “Those are all acts of desperation by modern Western “elites”, who are not ready to face history …..”
http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2020/12/matt-purple-begins-to-suspect-something.html
There is now a real risk of secession in the United States at least from Texas. There is support. My family is adamant and they are truly risk-averse. We may even see competing inaugurations.
Trump? Oh Boy, he still thinks of himself as owning the world. After ‘giving’ Jerusalem and the West Bank to the Zionists (and we have not seen the end of this yet), he now gives the disputed Western Sahara region to Morocco – if they normalize relations with Israel. It is just so wrong to buy influence with what you do not have. It is not his to give and trade Israeli influence with. There will be a continuance of strongman bands of war here. It’s an invitation for the mercenaries to move in.
I wonder what the next fumble is going to be? For us, we gotto keep our eyes on our own ball. Good and nourishing food, grow it, or make an agreement with a farm for a direct farm to household food. Look after your own income and if you trade or transact, do it in cash or in currency free from the state, and keep healthy with feet on the ground and heads in the heavens. Love those that are around to love.
Thinking I’m seeing very early signs of either unraveling or new normal of this phase of the chaos period. But it looks like a little respite. (Don’t know if it is just the Christmas spirit that I have). What comes after is anyone’s guess, but I think the more stable we can be now, the more emotional grit and moxie and resilience we can gather, the more ready we can be for more challenges or changes. It is time to say no to the overlords and transparently stand for what is good. The humans may have an outside chance here.
Still fumbling the Trump ball, eh?
It’s alright. You might recover and understand the game soon enough, from a higher perspective. I’m pulling for a great many people amongst family and friends and far away acquaintances to make the breakthrough in discernment and comprehension…….on a number of related things.
“Related? How could that be?”
It’s a very fun puzzle that Red Pilled Sister adds a few pieces to….which were under the table, on the floor, or still in the box….the whole time!
Have Fun Puzzle Solvers!
She writes:
So Trump filed a massive lawsuit against officials of Fulton County Georgia… nothing esoteric.. plain ole fashioned election fraud… apparently filed it Friday, it was rejected due to filing technicalities which his attorneys cleaned up and refiled… entire lawsuit linked within the article..
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/read-trumps-massive-georgia-lawsuit-highlights-include-66247-underage-voters-2560-felons/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Not a lawsuit but an update on the Newsom recall petition.. they already have half the signatures needed, and have until March 17, 2021.. with a call out for up to $1Million in donations, let’s see who steps up.. Newsom is a danger to us all..
https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Recall-Gavin-Newsom-signature-report-COVID-new-20-15788341.php
Texas lawsuit with SCOTUS:
Guaranteeing that SCOTUS will hear the lawsuit, Twenty Three states & territories file AGAINST: DC, CA, CO, CT, DE, Guam, HI, IL, ME, MD, MA, MN, NV, NJ, NM, NY, NC, OR, RI, VT, VA, US Virgin Islands, and WA
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163379/20201210144443769_Texas%20v.%20Pennsylvania%20-%20Motion%20and%20Br.%20of%20Amici%20DC%20et%20al.pdf
15 GA Senators and 12 GA Representatives filed an Amicus Brief today FOR the Texas lawsuit in which Georgia is a plaintiff..
https://twitter.com/SenWilliamLigon/status/1337190117681876994
106 GOP members of the US House of Representatives filed an Amicus Brief FOR the texas lawsuit:
included below..
Pennsylvania State House of Representatves (GOP Speaker and Majority Leader)join with Amicus Brief FOR the Texas lawsuit in which Pennsylvania is a plaintiff…
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-pennsylvanias-house-representatives-joins-texas-suit-pennsylvania-wisconsin-michigan-georgia/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
AND Separately:
Subject: New Memes i.e., NOT ‘official’
https://twitter.com/NoClutchTruth/status/1337265022695772160
ME: It might help to think outside of one’s favorite “box”. Try it!
(you might like it)
Nostradamus 93
…you said…
“Still fumbling the Trump ball, eh?
It’s alright. You might recover and understand the game soon enough, from a higher perspective.”
…unquote…
Your arrogance would be laughable if it wasn’t so utterly tedious and repetitive.
At the same time, I really have to admire Amarynth’s amazing patience in dealing with insulting infantile crap like this. The lady is a legend!
YCHMTSU
Col
Nostradamus 93
Perhaps CJ can walk you ever so slowly through this…
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/12/09/who-the-resistance-was-actually-resisting-these-last-four-years/
…quote…
“The #Resistance spun itself as a revolutionary movement against the insidious forces of darkness threatening the United States of America. What it delivered was support for Trump’s world-threatening cold war escalations against Russia, the mass delusion that America’s problems can be fought from within the establishment, progressives impotently chasing their tails for four years, and a presidency that is going to be just as much of a murderous oligarchic rim job as was delivered by Trump administration.
The engineers of the “Resistance” did not want to eliminate Trumpian depravity, they just wanted to be the ones driving it. And now they are. If you fed into this nonsense in any way over the last four years, this is your reward.”
Cheers
Col
Guam -Bro-you is really out of the box here -you must be ETOPS.
Please stop defending your now antiquated opinion that the world is going to become multipolar and somewhat just.
Maybe you live at the periphery where you escaped for now, and you are still spared of the ongoing tide of new universal capitalism reset.
In spite of all the proofs we have since the beginning of this cursed year of 2020.
To make it clear, till recently I believed in this story of multi polar world, I was thrilled by the new Silk road story, and I have followed very carefully. No more.
You are wrong on so many counts, since April, when Allen was writing as I was also about Great reset, you were condescending, making fun of us, like: ‘OHHH, just to believe that there are some secret persons directing our world’. You minimized the real danger and the enlightenment of this it on this site
Well, there are developments all over the world to beat you to your opinion which is lagging behind the reality.
I think that you offended many contributors on this site, especially from the East.
Your understanding is limited, and you threatened to ‘doxx’ some Anonimous contributors while you claim that you are just a regular contributor. ( Ukraine and their site relieving the contacts of the opposing persons, some were killed comes to my memory).
If this gets published, I will be truly surprised…
If not, it is time to leave this site, as it is becoming a lie.
Thank you
… movie … “Snowpiercer” …
Set in 2031, the entire world is frozen except for those aboard the Snowpiercer.
For 17 years, the world’s survivors are on a train hurtling around the globe creating their own economy and class system.
Led by Curtis, a group of lower-class citizens living in squalor at the back of the train are determined to get to the front of the train and spread the wealth around. Each section of the train holds new surprises for the group who have to battle their way through. A revolution is underway.
https://soap2day.cc/movie_aTo0NjU2Ow.html
Belly of the Beast Bulletin:
Ah, so the “accidents” and the “suicides” begin at the edge of the cookie and working inward:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13429512/brandy-vaughan-anti-vaccination-dead/
Infowars is not populating today on my computer or does so and then crashes so Deep State is very worried about the efficacy of so-called “alternate” news sites. Almost all free discussion of substantive issues are directly blocked on the sites controlled by the techno-fascists.
Scott Ritter and Prof Morandi were most excellent today on Crosstalk.
in uk RT says what it is allowed to say especially when there is nothing to say.Simples.
The US Supreme Court in its dereliction of duty to the nation refuses to hear the Texas lawsuit.
Here is the techno-fascist’s next play… burn, baby, burn. And they could care less.
https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2020/12/11/portland-police-aware-of-weapons-stockpile-in-expanding-autonomous-zone/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_campaign=20201211
In the matter of citizens, the Supreme Court had ruled they have no standing. (The People have no standing!)
In the matter of States, the Supreme Court has ruled they have no standing.
That leaves Corporations. You know they have standing. Because that’s where the money comes from.
This is the Supreme Court Chief Justice Warren Burger (thankfully, now dead and buried) wanted. A lower than Supreme Court for the little people, the serfs, the scum. The real Supreme Court for Corporations, the immortal persons (by way of a Supreme Court decision).
We have a completely rewritten Constitution. Fascism rules. A Shadow Government, A Deep State, and Corporations corrupting the officials.
First they couped Trump. Now they have couped the People.
There is nothing left. Joe and the Liberal Cult will shred the Bill of Rights.
It is going to get bloody in America.
This is a good test of the delegate system, if the delegates choose to be partisan and vote simply for party lines, this will prove that a level of insanity has been reached that not only cant be competed with, it also cant be reasoned with either.
And as such, punitive measures should be taken once the mechanism to do so opens up.
Austrian lawmaker tests cola for Covid and claims POSITIVE result returned shows testing is ‘worthless’
https://www.rt.com/news/509377-austria-mp-test-cola-covid-positive/
Covid-19 vaccine advice is for national regulators to judge, WHO says, after UK cautions allergy sufferers to avoid jab
https://www.rt.com/news/509390-covid-who-vaccine-allergy/
… movie … “Arctic” …
A man stranded in the Arctic after an airplane crash must decide whether to remain in the relative safety of his makeshift camp or to embark on a deadly trek through the unknown in hopes of making it out alive.
https://soap2day.cc/movie_aTo1Nzc0Ow.html
Every six months or so, I do an overview. Here it is for 2021 – staying away from technical stuff.
If you want to learn about cryptos, I again recommend Andreas Antonopoulos who is arguably the best teacher on principles and on how to deal with this thing. He is a technical developer with a talent for making this stuff understandable and also is honest, a fun presenter, and his integrity has been demonstrated over years.
On his channel, you will find some series for beginners and those are usually very good.
https://www.youtube.com/user/aantonop
So, what is the situation today? First a little history around this concept:
“Bitcoin isn’t a weapon of war. Governments are waging a constant war against their subjects, enslaving them and stealing the fruits of their labor. Bitcoin is a tool to end that war by neutralizing the weapons of the state altogether.”
Hence we say Bitcoin is internet money that is open, borderless, neutral, censorship-resistant, immutable, and permissionless. All of these words have specific meanings but that is enough for now.
So, let me define what I mean by Bitcoin. First was Bitcoin, a currency created on a blockchain by POW (proof of work, ie., a mined currency). This method of creating currency was written up in the Bitcoin White Paper as a peer to peer electronic cash. https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
Then BTC fell to the borg through a business called Blockstream.
In 2017 we split the chain into Bitcoin (BTC) and Bitcoin Cash (BCH). This was an extremely hostile split with loads of malice, ill-will, animosity, threats to life and so on. The leader of this split to the BCH chain was Amaury Séchet – a French dude. Before and around the chain split, there were alternative implementations of the core protocol/software, Bitcoin Unlimited I remember – a few more. Then this fellow Craig Wright appeared on the BCH scene and besides saying that he was the founder of Bitcoin he wanted to rule the roost and beat the drum. Well, he was not around at chain split and nobody was going to accept that and the then community expectorated him, and he led a particularly nasty chain split into a business called nChain, with a gambling billionaire backing him, from BCH into BSV (the real Bitcoin as it is advertised).
So, now we had 3 Bitcoins. After the two basically malicious chain splits, BCH ended up with every malcontent in the community (be careful of sedition, treason and revolution – these people do not settle down afterwards), and the lead implementation, BitcoinABC with Amaury Séchet said .. to hell with this – everything, every little change is a revolution. And we have just had another chain split from BCH into what is temporarily called BCHA. They are busy branding the chain now to permanent names.
This is a relatively non-political wikipedia writeup: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_Cash
So, now we have 4 bitcoins, BTC, BCH, BSV and temporary name BCHA, all still basically functioning on the principles of Satoshi’s white paper.
This market is huge and there is enough money for this. The problems are generally around governance, i.e., who makes the decisions, whether technical or any other parts of the business of running a chain. So, you can imagine, who makes the decisions during a revolution? And the last 10 years was revolutionary.
Here is where we stand now.
Nobody makes decisions – Bitcoin (BTC) – changed from a peer to peer electronic cash (1st property of hard money) system to a store of value (2nd property of hard money). So, there you hear ‘hodl, hodl’, ‘to the moon’ and ‘number goes up’. The idea is to buy some and store it for some magical point in the future. They decided that nobody makes decisions, so they are not developing their chain. It stays as is. From the old days, I have some of BTC and for investment purposes it is still good, but do not try to trade with it .. slow and expensive. If you have some, I would hodl for pure investment and buy only expensive stuff like a house or a car with it. Lots of ‘leaders’ or ‘non-leaders here, most notably Adam Back, who worked with Satoshi in the early days and came up with an early type of electronic cash – called hashcash.
A group of self-annointed makes decisons – Bitcoin Cash (BCH). So Bitcoin Cash moved into the peer to peer electronic cash niche but this group remained in a revolutionary mode. They are still the biggest in peer to peer electronic cash having developed a small city using BCH and working to get merchants to accept this currency. I have some, but will slowly move out of it because of no trust in the Bolshevikish group management style. We call them Bitsheviks now. They will probably split chain again, because of loosy goosy management and their leader is not known. I don’t believe software can be handled this way.
Craig Wright only makes decisions – Bitcoin Satoshi Vision or BSV. They are oh so slowly losing marketcap now but there are some very nice additional shiny software stuff being developed here – all very IP driven. Open Source software is apparently not in their future. In reality they are trying to sell IP because BSV believes all Bitcoin ever belongs to them. Court cases abound, with not many being won. I had some BSV, but with no trust in one man decisionmaking, I sold that. Don’t really try to buy and sell on this chain, as there are very few merchants that accept it and also very few exchanges where BSV trades.
The new chain, BitcoinABC or BCHA. Now we come to a balance again that feels like the original sense of Bitcoin. Very young, the price still under 20 dollars, this chain survived a hostile mining attack in the first two weeks. It’s settling out now. The principle here is that to be peer to peer electronic cash, as well as a store of value, as well eventually a unit of account, we need professional technical management and professional decisionmaking. This group is using POW as laid out in the white paper, but they are appointing a governing board on a Proof of Stake principle. i.e., the miners and the ones with real skin in the game leads the chain together with professional technical management. So, needless to say, I’m spending some Christmas money on a few of these for longer term investment. Yeah, yeah, I fought this war too!
So, this is how we got to 4 Bitcoins.
The last one that needs to be mentioned here, is Ethereum, with my favorite extra-terrestrial young leader, Vitalik Buterin, who introduced Mr.Putin to cryptos. So Vitalik wanted to build a chain on top of the original BTC, but they were highly snobbish and he built it as a separate entity. Ethereum is not electronic cash so much for trading, but more for trading cryptos themselves. I bought my first Ethereum at 30 dollars (actually just exchanged it for a bit of Bitcoin) and it is now 500 dollars and much of it I bought and sold through the years to buy and sell others or if I needed a bit of extra cash. There is now more Ethereum transacting on the other Bitcoin chains than Bitcoin itself. They have moved in the last few months from a POW chain to a POS chain. This one may be the one on top of the trading boards and the first POS coin to displace the original Bitcoin. You can check it out on coinmarketcap. https://coinmarketcap.com/
More to come on the top 10 on the trading boards.
One more thing. What disappointed me most over the past 10 years, is that the borg could interfere to the extent that the first Bitcoin business was smacked. This was a dark web business that sold everything. The fellow who built it, Ross Ulbricht or “Dread Pirate Roberts” is in jail and his sentence is 2 lifetimes + 40 years, for building a trading website like eBay where they bought and sold everything including drugs. It was a sting operation and the Fed that led the sting is also now in jail because they stole the Bitcoin after arresting Ross Ulbricht.
Bitcoin business changed from there onwards. I am not a trader, so I don’t like the trading focus in cryptos. I would rather see peer to peer electronic cash for the world outside of state control, a store of value, and a unit of account coin. We’re starting again with BCHA but we will punch a hole through the bankster state collusion. Expecting this chain split we techs in our household updated old tech skills and will be developing some stuff for this chain.
This is not investment advice in the least, but currently, I have BTC, BCH, ETH, and BCHA. This was all from the first piggy bank money that I put into BTC when it was a hobby. I am not a trader, but BTC is easy to trade if the pattern continues (A real trader will probably have a heart attack at this laissez-faire approach). It has these long swings where the whale traders pump it up, and then let it fall. If one is patient and careful, then one can make some extra on those long swings. BCH I will move out of and more into BCHA as the fundamentals are right. Ethereum I have basically to use for these other transactions and because Vitalik is my most favorite young ET (not really an ET but he looks like one :-).
I saw something in the Chinese crypto press just days ago that made me sit up and take notice.
Their expectation is that tech will take over money.
And this is also then my answer to a question that came up in the discussion on banks and currency. I don’t think we can go back to the old days where reliable and solid banking existed. We have to do it for ourselves now – one way or the other. The cryptos is my way, but there are others, like banking hours, like lets systems, bartering systems and so on.
On cryptos, the power is that if a minimum viable number of people in your culture understand the concept of Bitcoin at a level where they can reconstitute a network, your society can never be enslaved.
Amarynth,
very helpful for a bitcoin ignoramus like me. I’ve been aware of it from the start – but couldn’t overcome my inertia to do anything about it – no one to blame but myself.
Thanks