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Regarding the bolded part, if people would not pay taxes, then how is the government going to fund certain projects or public services like healthcare?
In the old days there was a check on financial responsibility, it was called gold and was traded for debts between countries and silver was used as the consumer option of currency.
Today there are no checks or balances required by law too meet, a group monetizes debt by how much electronically printed coinage is desired in the name of convenience and the amounts only become a consideration when trading between different countries.
As long as there are plenty of countries offering cheap labor slaves to make the products sold or converted in/into dollars, the money train can continue indefinitely along with the ability of gvt to control its citizens by monetarily inflating their way out financial crisis’s.
@joey
Easy. Selling oil, gas, gold, iron or other resources found within the country, or renting out farmland to foreign entities.
This has been done throughout history by Kings and his Elites.
Where do you think money comes from in the first place ?
It is just a data entry on a bank computer created as debt out of thin air every time a bank makes a loan.
No debts = no money
But China creates the yuan free of debt, since its central bank is government owned.
This then puts the Chinese workforce to work without the need of taxation to build infrastructure without incurring debt to private banks.
This is why the US has surrounded China’s periphery with missile bases.
Oi all you fururistic ppl :) G’day!
HA :D thats a checky way to say we may, just may have ALL gold-back money, or even physical gold stright up!
WoooHooo! Can you say, ‘Freedom’ ?
Anyway, the Ukies situation is getting hotter and somewhat out of control (which surprises me abit)
and appear we may, just may indeed have a REAL, hopefully limited war
I still think the paymaster wont pay for this war. Its too expensive for them. (but then there too many idiots)
Yet damn they do and damn they dont – thats the hole they have been diggin for themselves for decades
King dollar and the Euro is really troubling the market and many private funds are blowing up
and they are all inter-connected
So the time that ALL US-EU banks blow up together is… (when?)
So maybe we postpone our little imagination project of how/what you would like to see in the new multi-polar world
and give our full attention and prayers to the Ukies, for now
and if its really unfortunate – there may not be a Ukies on the earth map by year end
If you have something really special you MUST share,
pls feel free
and thank you for sharing :)
I cant resist I MUST say – my position on Covid19
ppl its real, I believe, ppl die thats your proof ( personally go w the mask (to avoid stupid fines) but totally reject the vaxx)
but I question die from what? covid19? emmmm… ?
this is where I, as a bloody good deconstructionist, go all the way back to the source – ‘what is a virus’ to begin with?
Again, not saying covid is fake or whatever but what actually kills those ppl, is it really virus? and specifically covid19 virus? hmmmmmmm…
And if, there is no such thing as ‘virus’ that is IF, IF again IF virus dont exist as they indoctrinate us to believe, or these entities they call, as ‘virus’ dont actually do what as the text book tell us as The Holy Truth,
then dear open minded friends, where is the virus in the covid19 they have elicit emergency laws to lock us down and god know what else they will do more to us. (Kiss your human right goodbye)
Is this a loyalty test as to who are the seperatist? Woooo dangerous thought there :p
okie I’ll stop here… but our science – medical, biology, geology, astronomy etc,
seem to somehow took the GIANT leap of faith from theory to ‘this is the truth man and we are forcing it on you for your own good’
something like that…
Thus I want to see what you like to see happen in the new multipolar world – the (more) perfect world as you want to see (or want to see your children and grandchildren in it or when you next reincarnate back on earth)
but lets turn our attention to the Ukies and the world in trumoil…
Believe me! Go buy some more cat food and go hide in your basement
If you dont have a basement, go hide inside your car remember to roll up the windows and put on a mask – you are safe and invincible there :)
be well be safe
I’m convinced that with Fiat money, taxes are just to keep the illusion of money somewhat real…as governments could simply print it and pay for public services….why would people even want to go to work? Taxes is why… Without it the scam falls apart.
The Chinese government does not just hand out fiat money willy nilly to all and sundry. It uses it to put its population to work.
Fifty years ago China had a largely agrarian economy, where everyone wore blue boiler suits and rode to work on bicycles. Since then China has used its debt free money supply to pay for the education of its workforce with emphasis on science, technology, engineering and mathematics in order to provide schools, universities, highways, hydro electric dams, coal fired power stations, nuclear power, medical research, high speed rail in order to build up its infrastructure and drastically reduce poverty.
Exports to the US provided the foreign exchange to purchase energy supplies in order to power its industry, and now China is the world’s largest creditor nation with the US the largest debtor. Taxation is used to reduce inequality to some degree and to control the rate of inflation of the domestic yuan currency by deleting a proportion back out of existence as necessary.
The CIA funds it’s projects growing poppies in Afghanistan
From a Russian Telegram Channel: ( machine translated)
“The sequence of events and their ANNOUNCEMENT leads to one point
1. The first is the closure of 3 opposition channels in Ukraine (the information perimeter inside the country is closed)
2. Biden’s statement – “Putin is the killer”
3. Unleashing a campaign in the international media that Russians have no Soul
4. Calling Zelensky to Qatar to receive instructions and a plan of provocation from the CIA and hold a conversation with Biden (to avoid leaking and recording tapes – for the Russian Federation)
5. Coordination of this provocation with MI6, with Boris Johnson – telephone conversation
6. Involvement of Turkey in a military provocation in Donbass, to make Turkey an enemy of the Russian Federation
7. Coordination with Merkel and Macron
8. Statement by Ukraine – at all levels about an imminent Russian attack on Ukraine – from President Zelensky to blogger and SBU officer Gordon and nationalists
9. Constant provocations – killings by the Ukrainian side of civilians by snipers and drones, including a 5-year-old child
10. Putin’s conversation with Merkel and Macron without Zelensky
11. Statements of the US State Department on the escalation of Russia in the Donbass and the movement of troops along the border
12. Biden’s statement about Russia’s guilt in cyber attacks, influencing the US elections and paying the Taliban for the murder of the American military in Afghanistan
13. Statement by Ukraine on withdrawal from the Minsk agreements and postponement of the meetings of contact groups to Poland
14. Zelensky’s trip to the front line with Donbass on the day of the memory of the Holocaust. Was in an inadequate state, which indicates the level of stress and pressure from the Western partners. Demonstrative hanging of fascist flags in the trenches on the day of arrival
5. Announcement of an investigation by British journalists from Bellingcat about the Wagnerian case and their involvement in the downing of Boeing. The date is shifting all the time – closer to the provocation
16. Unleashing a campaign in the international media on May 9 – as a parade of a country worse than Nazi Germany
17. Special provocation of the authorities of Russia and Donbass to aggressive rhetoric, which is then used as an argument for “Russian murderers who do not have a Soul.”
18. Constant arrivals of US military aircraft with secret cargo to the airports of Kiev and Lvov. The last – on April 4 in Lviv (this plane took off from the Moron de la Frontera airbase, Spain. This base is strategic for the delivery of military supplies to the Middle East and Africa)
19. Synchronizing actions with the unwinding of internal instability in the Russian Federation through Navalny, a “sacred sacrifice” in prison is also possible.
The date of the provocation can be tied to
1. Putin’s message to the Federal Assembly – April 21
2. Putin’s addresses to the peoples of the world – April 22
3. Victory Parade in Moscow on May 9
The provocation itself (should be the same level as the downing of Boeing) undermining social facilities – power plants, hydroelectric power plants, US bacteriological stations in Ukraine, or large social facilities – schools, kindergartens, churches for Easter, social facilities. The provocation should take place on BOTH sides – the detonation should be almost instantaneous on the territories of the DPR + LPR and on the territory of Ukraine.
Counteraction to Provocation is a COUNTER DISCLOSURE OF OTHER’S PLANS (this is a turn in the flow of events) and OWN COUNTERACTION (the formation of one’s own events, and not a simple reaction to them)”
My digital microscope turned up today. For £10 it is absolutely amazing. The instructions aren’t that great, but after half an hour or so I did get it to work.
So I first photographed a bit of still life to get the hang of it, and then I pointed at my pint of homebrew, topped off with John Smiths, and focused on the bubbles ..it was like looking at an alien planet, like the moon or mars, except it was alive…the bubbles were slowly changing.
Then I heard the news and went outside, and borrowed my daughter’s posh camera, to photograph “Our” Queen Bee in Flight (I was amazed I got it – they sell honey round here). I have never got a honey bee in flight before – but she keeps coming round (my wife ie really good with flowers) I do a bit too.
I am going to get addicted to this natural live close-up stuff. Never really done it before except when snorkelling and diving.
It’s Our Planet Earth. Don’t let these Psychos in Control Kill us All.
Fight Back. No Masks. No Vaccinations.
We have only got one life (so far as I know)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Q19qDDtCT4o&feature=youtu.be
My wife and I and our Children and Grandchildren have not been vaccinated.
I love them, and I am doing my best to prevent it.
Tony
My favorite Serbs speaking astrology , 3/2/2021: ( he is not smoking after hospitalization for double pneumonia !!!)
To cut to the quick: check in at 27:00-30:30. Danger of Big war outside USA in the spring. And a nuclear incident this year like Chernoble,Fukishima, or 1962 nuke crisis… ( that prediction comes earlier in the forecast)…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4ukkrXPltA
He sees Harris and Biden as somehow healing? Sorry…big miss on that one—these two are lethally incompetent on all levels.
you should message him in the comments and tell him about Saker’s . Its amazing how many people gratefully read the articles of Saker’s during high-pressure moments.
I just watched two must-watch videos by Dr. Peter McCullough—a medical big shot in the Texas university system.
Both video are about the effective treatment of Covid-19, and the massive failure of the American medical system to provide treatment.
The first video is Dr. McCullough’s testimony to the Texas Senate Committee on Heath and Human Serivces. The second is a detailed discussion of actual medications and protocols.
Here is what i wrote to my own small email list:
“Dr. Peter McCullough testifies before the Texas Senate Healthcare Committee”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHi3lX3oGM
This is absolutely shocking.
McCullough is in no way an “alternative” doctor. He is very high up in the medical research profession, as he lays out in the first minutes of the video. Texas’s university system is one of the premier university systems in the country.
And McCullough is himself shocked. For example, when he made his first venture into social media at the behest of his daughter in order to publish and publicize some basic treatment protocols last May, Google’s MDs (snark) “canceled” him! Un-effing-believable. Except that it is all to believable in the alternative-reality covid-world we have been living in for almost a year.
When you have watched and absorbed that video, here is another in which Dr. McCullough does a detailed presentation of the actual treatment protocols of covid-19 and the three aspects of the disease that must—and can—be treated EARLY. He also discusses and explains the results of studies that have been undertaken of effective treatments such a hydroxychloriquine. Also, however, that none of these studies were actually completed properly because of the WARP Speed emphasis on finding a vaccine for healthy people instead of actually treating those who were sick. A massive failure of American medicine. Per Dr. McC, up to 85% of those who died of covid-19 could have been saved with early outpatient intervention by informed MDs. He attributes “long haul” syndrome to weeks of suffering symptoms with no treatment.
“Pathophysiologic Basis and Clinical Rationale for Early Ambulatory Treatment of COVID-19”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL1Tna3oXzE
++++++++++++
PS. Per Dr. McC the vaccines are pointless, especially for those in good health under 50. We are now at 80% herd immunity. But sick people need to be treated—and they can be treated. Once you have had covid-19 you are completely immune forever. Those are his words, and he repeats this more than once.
Thank God someone established is finally cutting through the BS with clear medical explanations.
Hi Katherine,
I did post this video some weeks ago – and I’ve seen quite a few posts saying they’re bored / stop speaking about covid. But , people are being needlessly left to die ! I’ve posted many other doctors and scientists with similar messages – the Vit D Ivermectin has been known for a long time – it’s just being deliberately supressed so the vaccine bonanza can continue. How is that not murder ?
In the video I posted above under White Whales poem, there is a world map ( at around 50 minutes in ) showing that countries with the most draconian rules in place for masks and lockdowns have a 30 times greater problem then the countries without. The expert interviewed also describes Vit D as an ” immune system enabler “.
In the UK media, I’ve seen this very photogenic doctor repeatedly. He’s good looking, has a nice little trimmed beard and he boldly stated that all that could be done for covid patients was a ventilator – and sometimes steroids help a bit. He went on to advocate vaccines and to describe anyone who resisted the vaccine as ” people who think they’re being injected with 5g – hahaha…”. Also, contrary to the inserts of the vaccine manufacturers themselves and the government guidelines, he declared there was no question of any effect on fertility or pregnant women – that was all just conspiracy theory.
I am continually shocked by this stuff..
Hi, sandinED
Glad to hear that you posted the same videos.
I didn’t see them. That is because I rarely come to the Saker Cafe because too often there are just endless poetic rants, etc.
I understand (I guess) why the Saker has banned all covid comments to the Cafe.
However, I also think that for this reason a lot of people might be missing important info
I have seen varoius videos by various docs, etc., but none impressed me as much as Dr. McC’s testimony before the Texas Senate Health and Human Services Committee. Partly because of the setting, and partly because of McC himself and the cogency of the info that he imparts. Quit simply, he has the institutional chops to be taken seriously by the Texas HCC.
He also, by implication, destroys the vaccine mania for those under 50 or 60. He makes utter logical sense. he is not pushing one particular medication but goes over the actual medical approach to treatment: that covid19 is a serious disease that must be treated EARLY to prevent more serious symptoms, and there are three aspects of the disase to treat. At the same time he emphasizes that this is 90% SOP for respiratory diseases.
I myself have formed my opinion regarding vaccination. I am not getting any mRNA shot that I don’t need. But Dr. McC’s presentations really brought home to me that my position is utterly credible. If anyone questions it I will refer them to Dr. McC. IMO he is unimpeachable, and this is very important in today’s paranoid and propagandacized “cancel” atmosphere.
He also take a sly dig at (I am quite sure) Fauci. Stating that “only one doctor” is being quoted in the MSM regarding covid-19, and this one has never treated a covid patient. Touche!!
In a war zone you don’t turn down some extra materiel. Especially when it is higher quality than anything else you’ve got. Not just in terms of “pure” content, but in terms of credibility with a general public. I would love to see a debate set up between McC and Fauci concenring C10 treatment priorities. That would get some pretty high ratings! It is beyond reprehensible that Weasel Fauci appears to have suppressed not only actual info regarding treatment of C19 but the *very idea* that the disease is treatable and must be treated EARLY to prevent hospitalizations. Not just an order to quarantine, and the primary care physician states: I don’t do covid. Wait until you are really sick, then go to the hospital.
Per McC, the aim and 85% successful goal of early treatment has been: Prevent hospitalization and prevent death. You can’t get much clearer than that.
It is such an indictment of our medical profession, and their total abrogation of the Hippocratic Oath.
And McC calls them out on it. He deserves a Nobel Prize. IMHO.
Katherine
Katherine,
well I can only agree with all you’ve written. The video I posted in the last cafe by dr. Ryan Cole is also very compelling in the same way ( in case you didn’t see it. ) He too is horrified that doctors are throwing their hands in the air and refusing to treat patients dismissing them with ” I don’t treat covid “. it’s beyond belief. He’s also very insistent on Vit D. Imagine – the use of Vit D has been deliberately denigrated – even described on the BBC as dangerous misinformation.
( I know I have to stop posting – I’ve said all this before – I just can’t get past the idea that people are being denied treatment / deliberately and needlessly left to die. )
We’re constantly advise to listen to the science / the experts. I always look for / refer to relevantly qualified people. Compare that to the covid prime movers :
Bill Gates – no qualification of any kind, but money,
WHO’s Tedros, ( he who must be obeyed ) – not a medical doctor / has no medical degree though he has studied immunology.
Neil Ferguson who came up with the modelling leading to lockdowns – a degree in physics, also has no qualification in computer modelling.
Drosten ( who came up with the covid PCR test which was not peer reviewed ) claims to have a doctorate – but it can’t be found.
UK’s Health minister Matt Hancock – no relevant qualification – he is a banker ( yes with a b ).
I appreciate all your posts Katherine :-)
Pathetic and funny at the same time:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-04-09/cnn-catches-russians-red-handed-hiding-secret-arctic-bases
Hi,
Interesting how this unrepentant war criminal is asking neocon narcissists in Wokeland to accept a multipolar reality rather than continue dangerously with a unipolar zero sum mindset, which is denialism of the empire’s last legs infested with gangrene.
I very much doubt that they will listen if their owners, the moneylenders, refuse to accept it. The neocons are after all just attack dogs who take their owners’ death march orders as absolute gospel.
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Kissinger warns Washington to accept new global system or face a pre-WWI geopolitical situation
http://infobrics.org/post/33101/
With the White House continually provoking tensions against Russia and China, the doyen of American foreign policy, Henry Kissinger, dramatically warned Washington last week to either agree to a new international system or continue pushing tensions that are leading to a situation similar to the eve of World War One.
In a Chatham House webinar with former British Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt last Thursday, 97-year-old Kissinger called on the U.S. to create a balance with existing global forces, adding “if you imagine that the world commits itself to an endless competition based on the dominance of whoever is superior at the moment, then a breakdown of the order is inevitable. And the consequences of a breakdown would be catastrophic.”
The veteran diplomat urged the U.S. to understand that not every issue has “final solutions” and warned “if we don’t get to an understanding with China on that point, then we will be in a pre-World War One-type situation in which there are perennial conflicts that get solved on an immediate basis but one of them gets out of control at some point.”
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Accepting realities isn’t just a problem with career warmongers and their owners. As I have commented on the Saker’s open thread #8, there are still those who, whilst claiming to independently report, still make assumptions based on the empire’s think tanks’ biased hubris in underestimating Russian and Chinese military and economic clout.
|Ode to a toad|
So long, ole Phil,
Gone now is the toxic dill.
We wonder still
If Lady Di, he did kill??
He and his ilk,
The common people they milk.
And for all the wealth
Stolen from the Commonwealth
He shied away from any goodwill
Hoping as a reincarnated virus, he could make us all ill.
If he’d gone sooner, we’d have thought he was covid
So now we must fear, he’ll plaque us as something far more horrid.
Old Phil,
Yer gone now, you pail of pig’s swill.
Gone now, and we quiz,
How long left for musty old Queen Liz?
As a “Royal” he did toil,
Now he’s shuffled off his mortal coil.
In truth, just a Greek chancer,
We saw him live high above us, as a parasitic cancer.
Gaff after gaff,
He was ever so naff.
How we enjoy having the last laff.
Can Charles atone,
Should he take the Throne
Or will he continue to just throw us a bone?
Of William and Kate
What is their fate?
Do we really need Royalty?
No. So why do we hesitate?
Over in LA
Markle and Harry,
With The Family they do parry.
We expect soon will come the day
When Ginger regrets the bimbo he did marry.
So long Phil, to the underworld you embark
When some say, will this be the last Monarch.
I say, I hope so, as I don’t give a farque.
Lol!!!
I’m waiting for Andrew Windsor and his “ex” wife Sarah to announce they actually remarried years ago. !!
~Do germs exist~|
It’s a dilemma with a twist
If germs are real or merely mist.
I know nothing, so I resist.
I avoid debate, while others persist.
But I do have story, I will insist.
Decades ago I worked with a bunch
And a room we shared to have our lunch.
Now one day things came to a crunch
Just as I was about to enjoy a munch
With thoughtless discourtesy
Ms “get out of my way, I’m ever so busy”
Lurched past me in quite a tizzy.
This presumptuous, bumptious “workmate”
Clumsily upended my plate
Splat. On the floor it went
But being a polite, accommodating gent
To an outburst I did not relent.
Keeping my cool,
“Ten second rule”!
Thinking the laws of biology I could fool
Now in an hour or two
My tummy was tight
With growing alarm I knew
Something’s not right
And all thru the night
I cursed my plight
As bowels worked overtime to rid the blight
As my body continued to contort and twist
I dearly wished to acquaint my colleague with my fist
I did not care I might appear on a court list.
Now do germs exist?, I cannot be sure
But food should not be eaten once it’s been on the floor.
Because something went through me, right to the core.
Now some in the family think I’m a bore,
To hell with 10-second rule, that’s new my law.
Hahaaaa …. the 10-second rule is not applicable in a lunchroom where there may be invisible unfriendlies to you. It’s applicable in your own kitchen, where it is mostly already friendlies, to you. I only use it when the dropped particle is going into the pot, and where some heat will be applied to it – but then again, we’re in the tropics and not everyone is disciplined, and perhaps someone else already applied that 10-second rule before me.
Funny funny poem. You poetry pundits are greatly amazing!
A day at home,
Atop the porcelain throne
Family indifferent as I moan.
Boss was sure I was being slack
Fragile, I ventured back
Too poor to risk the sack.
On inspection
I could see why the infection.
Underfoot was so much grime
The company did deserve a fine.
Thereafter for lunch I went out
Enjoyed some air and a walk about.
Sorry for your inconvenience but your poems are seriously funny, and do you know, my family always ignore the moans, (global family also), real good doctors and healers are extremely hard to find, (look for a pin in a haystack, same as the all-time, dreaded particle). Fine the company for all you’re worth.
White Whale,
what’s come over you – have you been infused with some special elixir that makes you both funny and erudite ? If so can I have some ? Your posts just get better and better !
On a more serious note, I thought you might be interested in this video :
https://thefatemperor.com/ep110-the-origin-of-the-species-and-of-our-viral-issue/
You were talking before about the furin cleavage sites – this microbiologist / geneticist has tried very hard to come up with a natural explanation – he can’t – it had to be lab insertions. His fellow experts agree but are unwilling to say so publicly. I’m posting in case you missed it, ( I posted it first about a month ago ).
It can be understood at 1.5 speed. If you’re pushed for time start about 2/3 s in and you’ll get the main conclusions.
Thanks Whale – your poem cheered me up :-)
SandinEd.
Guess I missed it. Thanks for reposting. Will watch.
There are many *many* people from top 1% virologists to mugs like me who *know*.
Like with JFK and 9/11 the *official* stories are far more improbable than the cui bono?/Ockhams razor explanation.
To control the narrative they overreached by banning people’s farcebook and twit. That got people annoyed.
Slowly the truth is revealed. Whether it is too late, I fear so.
Vax passports are the end of liberty.
I think they might have overplayed their hand with the mortality of this first round of vacs.
People in Oz no longer want AstraZeneca.
But of course Phizer* is equally diabolical.
*too lazy to look for spelling
Cheers mate
WW
A good summary from Scott Ritter on the JPCOA.
The United States rejoining the Iran nuclear deal is a good thing, right? Well, not necessarily
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/520641-jcpoa-biden-iran-nuclear-deal/
And Iran’s response to the negotiations.
Outcome of Vienna talks on anti-Iran sanctions: ‘Almost nothing’
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2021/04/10/649144/Iran-JCPOA-Vienna-Araqchi
We’re looking at the Ukraine mainly, and I was glad to see Ritter’s summary. My crystal ball – they’ll carry on yammering and nothing will change, excepting, Iran will continue to build itself as it pleases.
Here is a good read from Paul Robinson, freshly uploaded at RT:
Russians’ lack of sympathy for Navalny may be partly down to constant lies about the country from West’s media & political classes
https://www.rt.com/russia/520556-navalny-sympathy-media-lies/
I had a good laugh at this:
“This followed a rather less scientific survey conducted by the Prague-based Current Time News (operated by the US government-run RFE/RL) which sent a journalist to the town of Pokrov, where Navalny is imprisoned, and asked locals what they thought of him. Answers included statements that “I hope he croaks” and “enemies of the people should be shot.””
Paul’s Irrusianality blog is in my bookmarks list alongside the Saker’s and Andrei Martyanov’s.
OK, so incredibly boring, I know.
But, back to terrain theory and this post :
/moveable-feast-cafe-2021-04-06/#comment-925150
“They are simply saying that, using the methods of science itself, science has NOT PROVEN that any infectious agent causes disease. Please read that again, if it doesn’t make sense to you.”
Because I have to move from this boring point, I’ll be short in terms of who does not agree with you.
Well, we have many countries of course, but something interesting has come to light, tying up with some information that I’ve reported here, older information, March last year, that China would not hand over any live virus to Russia, as they said that it would be contrary to the international laws on exchange of biological weapons.
So, let’s get ourselves out of this stuck pretend scientific knot once and for all. Here are some quite serious and scary people that do not agree with you.
I quote from the latest Pepe Escobar, where he quotes triple yoda, Nikolai Patrushev : “Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation – is Triple Yoda. ”
And you know what Triple Yoda has to say? This:
“On US bio-labs: “I suggest that you pay attention to the fact that numbers of biological laboratories under US control are growing by leaps and bounds across the world. And – by a strange coincidence – mainly at the Russian and Chinese borders … Of course, we and our Chinese partners have questions. We are told that there are peaceful sanitary and epidemiological stations near our borders, but for some reason they are more reminiscent of Fort Detrick in Maryland, where Americans have been working in the field of military biology for decades. By the way, it is necessary to pay attention to the fact that outbreaks of diseases uncharacteristic of these regions are recorded in the adjacent areas.”
All nicely in clear and pragmatic terms, but devastating. More information is sure to appear, and we are not done with the Covid era. There are clearly more ‘secrets to be revealed’.
So, besides many countries, the militaries of the world *disagree* as all of them are in various ways involved in military biology. Some of them are making “infectious agents that cause disease” to beat the band and some of them are testing the concoctions on the nearby populace. I would guess some of them are testing on cockroaches and mice and perhaps bigger animals.
This false premise that infectious agents as per science are not proven to cause disease (and therefore as per science Covid does not exist as we saw boringly in the last +year), must not be repeated without the necessary caveats. You are misleading people into accepting a laissez-faire approach to their own health in order to prove a cockamamy scientific principle and you are blinded by the science. (Welcome to climate change, where the science is always right eh! )
(Sorry, if I’ve now killed the ‘proverbial tooth fairy’ but enough is enough – If that is what science says, science is wrong and misguided! as a sweet poem here in this Cafe tells a story. I wonder why they disinfect continuously in hospitals?)
Since you clearly have no idea what I am talking about, I refuse to have anything more to do with this discussion. It’s hopeless trying to have a discussion with a closed mind who actually just doesn’t understand the idea of what constitutes Scientific proof, nor of what the Host – Parasite relationship is.
This aggressive response – maybe I’m wrong, but it seems to me that no matter what I write or offer for discussion I get attacked – to an idea open for rational friendly discussion is typical, and brings me to my last comment here, at least on this topic, although frankly I cant see myself writing anything much here again – it is typical of what has been for hundreds of years, the dominant Paradigm of the Franco-Saxon “Civilisation” – if such it can be called.
All civilisations have a dominant Paradigm. The early ones of small communities were the correct one, the one in line with all known Universal Laws, and shown to be so stable they lasted for thousands of years, – and it’s the one Russia is living by and trying to teach the world – that of mutual aid to mutual advantage – that of equality of people and of community co-operation.
The Oriental nations of the Pacific Orient had a dominant one of “flow with nature”, of observing the world and ALL that is in it, including that not seen, and learning to co-operate and live in tune with it. This also led to very long term stable civilisations, as did those who took it with them, those who migrated, to the Western Continent, and lived as “Indians”. That there were aberrations in places and times is acknowledged, I am talking of what was dominant.
The Franco-Germanic English Civilisation had one of everything being separate from everything else, with adversarial action of “invade and dominate, and destroy” the only way to see the world and survive. Just examine it’s history from 445 and the invasion of Cymru – for the sole reason of stealing land being made productive by others.
This is still the Dominant Paradigm and it “infects” {! pun intended } everything.
This is easily seen for those who will take the trouble. From its actions to acquire land, to steal wealth, to it’s economic method of Predatory Capitalism – which actually is not true Capitalism, but rests on the idea “screw everyone, lie, cheat, deceive, and winner takes all”, to it’s social constructs; it’s hierarchies, it’s social behaviours, and just about ALL of its institutions, especially of “learning” – of acquiring the bits of paper needed to gain power and money, and clearly to it’s Power structure via it’s Political systems to it’s Bureaucratic system, to finally, it’s medical model – the same Paradigm has ruled.
From the Palaces of London, the City of London, to Congress and Wall St., from military bases, to secret societies, to international interaction of every kind;, from the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge to Harvard; from The Great Hospitals of London to those of Washington – always the same Dominant Paradigm has ruled – if but very covertly.
It says “everything is separate from everything else – there is no contact”. It says “thus everything needs to and wants to invade, destroy, gain, steal, in order to eat”. It says “this is nature, it is just how everything is, and the winner has to be ruthless, deadly and take everything”.
Show me one system not predicated on this paradigm.
Modern Medicine was born out of war. There was no concept of health care before Nightingale went to Crimea {where the Dominant Paradigm was again in Force, in an attempt to invade and own and steal from the Russian Empire}, and started to implement scientific models which were based on strengthening the body in order to resist infection and death long before antibiotics were thought of, i.e. she was seeing to the “terrain”.
She insisted on daily baths, spaced beds, tidiness, order, clean wards and sheets, daily dressing changes, good food, peace and quiet. These had not ever been done before – care of the wounded was atrocious, filth, mess, hunger, disorder abounded and death from infection was very high.
And her success rate was stunning, such that it gave rise to what we have now – but with some changes. As it came out of war to a war-minded and driven people, it began to absorb the Dominant Paradigm. The discovery of bacteria in wounds was interpreted as an invasion. The need to destroy the invader was a logical conclusion. Finding antibiotics [means anti-life] was the means,; heavens, does anyone here realise they used to be called “The Magic Bullet”?? they were looking for “The Magic Bullet” as a means to kill observed bacteria – and Penicillin was it.
And because it did destroy the bacteria under consideration, all was well. And it was grabbed by another institution under the Dominant Paradigm of “all is war, invasion, one against everything”, known now as “Big Pharma”
No-one has ever challenged this. Until now, when the Western world has dropping life spans from diseases we have no idea about, nor any idea how to treat, because we accepted that there was only one way to do it.
The complexity of the Host – Parasite relationship is only just beginning to be investigated. If you can just instantly “get sick” because you ingested some Salmonella, why you, and many do ingest it but dont get sick? What exactly goes wrong.?
And why is it that if you count up all the billions of cells that make up a human body, the majority are bacterial – and they dont make us sick. But people can get an infection with NO external input – if their body goes totally out of whack and unbalance, and often no-one knows how that bacteria got there, or start to overgrow.
I’d like to give an example. I am currently engaged in helping a gentleman who turned up at a friends house, very sick. He had had a sudden severe gut ailment, with diarrhoea – we would say “a gut infection”, although the gut is 90% bacteria all the time”. He was developing a very swollen painful foot indicative of bacteria in the cells. I took his Blood sugar – it was to my horror over 500mgm/dl. Any diabetics reading this will blanch. He admitted to being diabetic, but never bothered to counter it, just lived a very adventurous life, travelling, volunteering, eating spasmodically and poorly. Long story short, of course with a body so unbalanced, his gut bacteria went out of whack – they didn’t like that much sugar or hyper acidity. They broke the gut cell lining and got into the blood stream. He got septicaemia, and the bugs lodged in his foot cells.
He is now being treated as Western Medicine does. My point is – clearly, it wasn’t Just the bacteria, was it? It wasn’t an “invasion” was it? He had a body – called by some “the terrain ” – severely out of balance. And it was that which caused the issue. Had he maintained his body in balance, it would never have happened. Host – Parasite relationship.
We need bacteria. There are experiments where lab mice were delivered by Cesarean, in a sterile environment of course, and then lived 100% bacteria free, food, gut, everything. They developed failure to thrive at a very early age, and died. If we dont have bacteria, we die. Period.
So – they aren’t the enemy, are they? But is this saying “don’t worry, you can eat anything, do anything and your body will just heal?”. No, clearly only someone determined not to understand would interpret it that way, would actually do that.
I will add – we have a civilisation which thinks its very existence is threatened by a bombing war. It isn’t actually. It’s highly unlikely. But we of course, do think that – because “WAR” is the only terminology we can think in, Because it is, still, very much, the Dominant Paradigm. As an editor I used to write for, wrote himself “America is in love with War”, and that goes for all Anglo Saxons.
What is threatening to the entire civilisation is something people mostly just cannot grasp and refuse to try because the Cognitive Dissonance hurts too much’; and that is our self inflicted health damage. We can see this all the time: the explosive rates of growth of illness – very very few people these days die of old age, they die of sickness: heart disease, lung disease, cancers of all kinds, diabetes, mental illness, dementia’s — all, every one, passed off as being “due to old age” when they are in truth, due to disease, which I use in its original form “dis – ease” i.e lack of ease or balance.
Also, increasingly – I have been monitoring this for the past 15 yrs – the decline in male fertility, now giving rise to predictions that it will not be too many years before couples will all need some form of IVF to reproduce.
These are signs of civilisation in decay, dying, and dying because the Dominant Paradigm was exerting force in all areas, finance, politics, national control but worse, in education and health science.
Clearly much of it needs challenging. And those who are joining voices to say “we see evidence that the Germ Theory of Disease is wrong” are right and courageous to do so.
But it takes a mind willing to be open to understand them. As for the rest, it’s just the same old paradigm again – attack, misinterpret, claim things were meant which never were, and destroy the Brave new Voice.
Notice something about the current “measures” supposed designed to “control a virus’ having never been once proven to do anything of the kind? Look at modern fighters geared for war. Do they not cover their faces with masks? Do they not keep a disciplined distance from each other. Oh and where we once greeted both strangers and friends with a open hand, indicative of friendship, openness, trust, — now we are told to push fist to fist, which for decades has been a symbol of truculence, aggression and the plan to fight!!
Dominant Paradigm — separateness, no affects / effects between entities, invasion with aggression, war, attack, destroy, winner takes all.
And if the West doesn’t recognise and change this fast, it’s going to be dead and gone soon. Not from bombs, but because it sickened itself to death.
I repeat, there are specified methods for producing a “proof” of a claim, which are part of the entire “Scientific Method” and are followed thousands of times around the world in various experiments. No reputable scientific magazine would publish a paper without them. Yet in many cases Medicine and Medico-biologic science have been making claims with NO Such proofs, and being accepted – this is a fact. To write this off as rubbish is to display ignorance of the basis of Science, and to make ones statements merely unsupported opinion.
I would add, in the previous Cafe in a post, the statement, in quote marks, was attributed to me “you ‘re only a Farmer, what would you know”.
This is a smear and distortion – I deny it, I never said anything of the kind, nor did I ever imply it by anything I did say. I said – over a few comments – words to the affect that as a Farmer is knowledgeable, much more than I, in his area of expertise, so also he is likely to have a lesser expertise in an area he has never studied or worked than one who had. I would have thought this was common knowledge.
As to stating what qualifications one has, this is common practice also. I have yet to see someone introduced or their works, published without a quick top line giving credentials.
Would you cross a bridge in a storm which had built by a homesteading writer, or the one next to it built by civil engineer who has already built 3 good ones”?? Telling ones credentials is merely honesty – and has nothing to do with anything else.
That’s it from me folks.
Thank you Pamela.
Re one thing mentioned, Loss of male fertility, a quick read about chenicals. The damage is already done
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/04/08/humans-will-require-assisted-reproduction-mechanical-wombs.aspx
dth
I have a very clear understanding of what you are talking about. I just don’t accept it as given. I could shrug my shoulders and say .. eh, if the student did not learn, the teacher did not teach. Excepting that I think the era of student and teacher is over for those that have learned to read and write, and to reason.
We’ve just finished our design discussion for our new book. We start with light, in terms of Let There Be Light and the equivalencies in the Chinese and Indian healing philosophies, both physical and metaphysical i.e, the esoteric bodies. And then we go through the effects and indeed the quickening of light (both physical and metaphysical), on the human and *all* its known processes – as well as the esoteric bodies.
And then we go to diagnostics and how one can use this in your own hands.
For example, one methodology only and there are others : Bioluminescence in terms of visible light emission in the organs of living organisms – a powerful methodology of imaging enabling the study of ongoing biological processes in vivo. Low cost, non-invasive, and a real-time analysis of not only disease processes but the life giving healing processes in living human beings, with myriads of research. It started with butterflies, as they are exceedingly bioleminescent How to find the traumas and the surrounding processes in terms of other possible cause. (I have come to give you life, and life more abundantly – the principles resonate! And they resonate no matter your specific belief set or none).
That is the difference between a technician, i.e., lab scientist, and a healer.
Slowly science is catching up to the people that do the real work because we used to do this with other methodologies – a little hit and miss. We do have people that can in fact ‘see’ this, and to throw this non-scientific thing out, is quite unintelligent. I have my own method to measure this but glad that science is catching up.
In other words, one method of diagnostic that takes the whole into consideration – the whole terrain. That is the complete internal and external milieu, or the old word, terrain. There is absolutely terrain and it is huuuuuuge!.
Then we go to water – in terms of God split the land and the waters and the equivalents in Indian and Chinese medical philosophies and the equivalencies in the physical human. Rinse and repeat with a whole bunch of similar and now added processes. There are laws for those that have their physicality on this earth.
You throw a lot of detail here, but if you take a few minutes and listen to those around you, you might find that they know much of what you are grasping for – instead of accusing everyone that they are stupid and cannot possibly understand the hallowed halls of *effing science*. Yes, we do understand that – we also understand that if we work together, we get further. Remember that stupid local that had fresh eucaluptus in the cab that you took and you tore a strip off him or something? You surely told us how stupid and backward he was and again I disagreed and told you what eucalyptus actually does.
We are resonant beings. It is decidedly unscientific but I’m glad the scientists are catching up and giving us better tools as we ask for them. That is their job, the tail does not wag the dog.
Again – mis-remembering and distorted understanding. “Remember that stupid local that had fresh eucaluptus in the cab that you took and you tore a strip off him or something? You surely told us how stupid and backward he was and again I disagreed and told you what eucalyptus actually does.”
I never said he was stupid. If I said anything it would be “uninformed.” I never, ever “tear a strip” off anyone for their belief. I might inform, and I always do it conversationally and in a friendly manner. In that case I simply said to him that I doubted such a small amount as it was would be very effective against a virus, and was he taking the VitC and Vit D and Zinc they were selling.
You know, I think, You seem to have distilled an image of me as an unbelievable rude, obnoxious person going around being incredible insulting to all and sundry.
Please allow me to inform you that I had a very old fashioned up-bringing. A Welsh one, moreover. One rooted back in the 1880’s. There is no way either my parents, my extended family, I or my brother would ever have been allowed to behave so, even had we wanted to, which we didn’t. It’s just not who we are. This Dominant Paradigm of aggression and attack belongs to the Franco – Germanic Saxons. We Celts dont have it. Friendly courtesy is the order of the day.
Perhaps if you “twist the Kaleidoscope” a little, you’ll get a different picture, and see things a little differently.
I try to be helpful. It goes with years in nursing care.
I implied a degree of venality in those selling a few twigs of eucalyptus leaves is all.
And I didn’t need you to explain anything to me amarynth. You forget, I spent the most productive, informative years of my life in the land of the Eucalyptus. No home cabinet, certainly not mine, was/is without it’s Eucalyptus oil, for topical application, for inhalation, nor it’s Ti-Tree oil for the same reason.
But this is a concentrate, prepared for medical use. That is a VERY different thing to a few twigs hanging in a car!!!! It’s called Bio-availability, and load application!!! And measured dose and other such despised “scientific” notions.
However, I have to go now. Apple juice to make, capsicums to roast, BBQ sauce to bottle. And many other things to attend to. You know how it is.
Pamela, I’ll quote just one piece:
“And I didn’t need you to explain anything to me amarynth. You forget, I spent the most productive, informative years of my life in the land of the Eucalyptus. No home cabinet, certainly not mine, was/is without it’s Eucalyptus oil, for topical application, for inhalation, nor it’s Ti-Tree oil for the same reason.”
I’m going to take just a very small slice of all of these happenings. It looks petty, but it is a confirmation of many things for me.
Just for the record, Tea Tree Oil (not Ti tree oil) is not a product of eucalyptus, no matter where you spend productive time. Not even in dreams. And yes, I did explain it to you – and others explained to you where Tea Tree Oil comes from. I also explained the anti-viral properties of Eucalyptus. And you knew hardly an iota about those two oils. So, I would ask you to verify your own comments here and have the mildness of spirit to say .. I did not know about this then, but now I have an idea. But feel free to go and verify instead of standing so firm in what did not happen. You can be very wrong too as I can.
I have it here, I’m sitting looking at it but I do not want to embarrass anyone.
Then, I’d be grateful if you take it that I don’t need to explain anything to you and just simply ignore that. I’m getting tired of getting my own words repeated back. But that is cool, yet if it is repeated back incorrectly, and insistently, that becomes a problem, especially coupled with mocking of others.
“Just for the record, Tea Tree Oil (not Ti tree oil)”
https://www.mygreenaustralia.com/ti-tree-oil-or-tea-tree-if-you-prefer/
The ti-tree plant is not related to the Bushells and other type of cuppa plant which is Camellia sinensis (aka Thea sinensis). This is the one they pick leaves from and turn them into black, green, oolong and white tea.
“Tea Tree Oil (not Ti tree oil)”
Nor is it the one they make the green, leafy hula skirts out of in Honolulu: Ti (plant), Cordyline fruticosa, in the family Laxmanniaceae, formerly treated in the family Agavaceae.
The one we are talking about is Melaleuca alternifolia from which tea tree oil is obtained, in the family Myrtaceae.
The oil is obtained through distilling every part of the plant – leaves and branches – which are pruned all year round, and you can actually take a ti-tree tour in some of the farms in the north of New South Wales and there are ‘cellar door’ sales.
Note that the chemical makeup is: Terpinene-4-01 (up to 30%), cineol, pinene, terpinenes, cymene, sesquiterpenes, sespuiterpene alcohols. If you are allergic to any of these things, don’t use it.
It gives us not just the oil that has become so famous and versatile as European man has caught up with the Australian aborigines and discovered what they did with it, but also Captain Cook brewed its dried leaves into a cuppa. It is a pungent and astringent brew but a great pick me up, and good when you have a cold. The Aborigines of Australia use ti tree leaves chewing them straight off the bush to alleviate headaches, boiling the leaves and sticks into a tea and using it as a lotion, inhaling the powerful smell to clear the head and so on. Ti tree oil contains a natural astringent (Terpinen-4-ol) and that is just one of over ninety compounds found in it. As a natural astringent, ti tree oil has been found useful in treating a number of common health problems, almost exclusively regarding skin and cosmetic problems.
It is on my list of potions you should not be without in your house. Its properties are also being investigated in the treatment of HIV Aids but, apart from therapeutic aromatic and topical applications, it has not been subjected to any scientific testing to my knowledge.”
“It is not a Eucalypt. “
I never said it was. I simply said it was in my medicine cabinet along with Eucalyptus oil.
“coupled with mocking of others.”
I have NEVER EVER, mocked others amarynth. It is not in my nature.
You’re saying this shows only that this is how you have chose to interpret my words. You do not speak to my intent. I have a rooted dislike of ALL confrontation. I just wont engage in it – but I do get caught up trying to defend myself when I feel under attack.
Which, I have to say, has been a great deal recently – but only from you. No other person in this cafe does this.
And it seems not to matter what I talk of. I produce figures published by RossStat, the Russian Government Stats publication outfit, and you attack them and the site as invalid, then go get other stats from unknown blogsite.!!
I offer people talking of a new Paradigm arising, refuting the Germ Theory of Disease – and this gets attacked. It seems it doesn’t matter what it is I bring up, you want to attack me for it.
I got called ” The Queen of Supercilious’ by yourself, picked up by another who used to visit this site, purely because I followed the standard practice all over the world of “telling people where you are coming from” by giving any relevant qualifications and experience you may have, to validate your opinion. This is common practice in the culture in which I have been used to writing.
Further down, you mis quote me again, making it seem I was saying that the “Covid-19” – the presence of which as used by the Powers the would enslave us I have doubted – was “the old persons friend”.
The truth is, it was not Covid to which I was referring – but pneumonia. I made that clear at the time. And this is a fact – a truth. In hospital wards and nursing homes across in Australia, which I have worked in but you have, I think, not so much as stepped in, it is so known. They use it because it causes so many of the – not only aged, but very very sick – to die quite quickly and painlessly. They mean it in a kindly fashion believe me.
But – I referred in another comment to the very old fashioned up-bringing I had. One of the stern rules of that was “never, ever, take a private spat into a public arena. Other people have no part of it, and they have their own issues, their own spats, tensions, worries. They dont need yours shoved in their faces. Private spats between people must kept there – private.”
It has become clear to me that this seems to have devolved to that. And – in the anxiety of trying to defend myself, i let myself be dragged in. For this, I do apologise to all other readers here – it was not my intent.
But now that I have woken up to it – I will not engage in this further. According to my lights and upbringing it would be a severe breach of good manners, and good upbringing and very much in discord with the feelings of others.
Please people, do not think, given I will not respond further, that it is because I am accepting a “guilty as charged” stance. I just choose not to engage in this anymore, out of what I believe to be good manners.
I stand by all I have said at all times here and elsewhere. That I have always spoken my own truth as I see it, from years of experience, wide reading, and training. And that truth is being echoed by many others with much greater experience and qualifications than I will ever have. I have always spoken from my mind, using it as it is, which always devolves to logic, evidence, demonstrated facts, giving their substantiation. I have never claimed infallibility – far from it. I have, as we all must, spoken from my own culture, my own known world. In forums such as this – this can be misinterpreted by those of other cultures who do not clearly understand the nuances of other ways of speaking and seeing the world. However, I, like all of us, can have no control over how others
choose to interpret our words especially in light of their own experiences and cultures.
We hope for tolerance. All too often, it is not there. In such cases, nearly all communication breaks down and becomes pointless.
And – with a repeat of my apologies for the transgression of allowing so personal a matter to be aired on a public forum, I will leave this — for good.
I am simply asking you to check your words, using the least offensive example. That is all. I am not attacking you, but as I said, I personally will not take mocking any longer. I am not posting the long list of examples as that will give me no joy.
All I am asking, is check your own words. Usually when I do this, the list of complaints that I have, is building up and I cannot bear any more. I don’t do this happily, and I don’t do this for no reason whatsoever. I’m trying to do this mildly.
That is all.
Bravo, and I say this wholeheartedly. You Pamela are a great philosopher! I love reading your every word, it brings a lot of enlightenment. Every time I come to The Cafe it is hopes of learning from insight of the many voices that contribute but most especially yours. Your words are poetic even when not intended to be so, you are a rare gem.
Please continue with you contributions. Many of us here have few places where it is possible to receive what you have to share.
Thanks Rae
You said…”This is a smear and distortion – I deny it, I never said anything of the kind, nor did I ever imply it by anything I did say.”
This is neither a smear nor a distortion.
Perhaps I should know, after all, the comment was directed at me. It beggars belief that anyone could claim that the comment could be interpreted in any other way.
Col
Please close this personal conversation down – site rules also apply in the cafe. Mod.
Thank you, thank you Pamela. Way back in the day, when I was a beginning microbiology student, we learned about “the disease process”. A bacterium does not cause disease just because it is present. Conditions have to be very specific. We swabbed each others throats, and plated it out so we learned to identify staph and strep bacterial colonies. But we were not sick. There is a place for sterile technique like operating rooms say. But rarely in ordinary life. Wiping down every surface, constant hand washing etc. drives me crazy.
Theodora, it is not that I disagree, but you are not taking different conditions, neither climate into account. We live in the tropics and if I work with meat of fish on my kitchen counter, I do scrub them afterward – lest I create those ‘very specific conditions’, which happens with regular frequency here. It is also necessary to actually teach basic cleanliness and sanitary handling of food. Where we are, people are generally poor and frequently uneducated. Different circumstances from an average household in more developed countries.
Also, if I need to buy veggies, we buy from the local market mainly from local small producers. People are not generally intent on hygiene (they don’t have portapotties in the fields) and I have to put anything that we eat raw, any salad, any fresh tomato cut or anything raw, quickly through a surface disinfectant. We have types of those here, generally available in the supermarkets, but I just use a small few drops of colloidal silver. People that do not do that, get anything from Salmonella, Listeria, or E. coli, Norovirus out of hotel kitchens or some form of hepatitis. Vacationers, people on holiday are generally warned everywhere not to drink local water out of the tap, for example.
It does not drive me crazy – I’m not a neat freak or a cleanliness nazi at all, but we need basic hygiene. Circumstances are different in the world.
Of course conditions vary depending on locale. Good hygiene, public health and sanitation are responsible for extending longevity more than has medical intervention. Even a known pathogen, though, is not an equal opportunity attacker. The condition of the attacked is a part of the equation.
As a quick late comment to your refutation of my defence of Leslie and Parker and Dr. Kaufman, et al, you offer, “I quote from the latest Pepe Escobar,”
If there is one person I have zero interest in the opinion of it is the above named, on anything, let alone anything to do with Biological Science. !!! I am not at any point here addressing politics, nor what politicians of any persuasion are doing.
All I and others I have provided links to, are doing, is talking the facts, behaviours and Theory of Science. Period. Something Mr. E knows nothing of, I suspect.
Quick question: Why haven’t scientists used the differential centrifuge fraction that contain “the virus” or for that matter any “virus” and demonstrate that it causes pathology, when it is certainly technologically feasible?
We have seen electron micrographs of viruses; we have watched Hollywood thrillers like Contagion; we have inherited the dark linguistic legacy of the sign ‘virus’ which predates modern public health …
chimmy, of course – but of the 1,000’s now available in pubmed, with a plethora of different methodologies, or the imaging that you can find at a search, (electron microscope scans of Covid-19 or something like that) none of the whole world’s work is acceptable here. See, every scientist in the world is wrong, and every lab jocky, and everyone that can scan with an electron microscope .. they are wrong whether they are from the North Pole or the South Pole – no matter .. they are all wrong – every single sodding one of them.
Even the comments of Nikolai Patrushev, Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, which we would accept probably knows a thing or two about possibly unfriendly Biolabs on their borders, and the creation of biological weapons, are not acceptable – because – yes, you guessed it, he is not a scientist, (but all the scientists are wrong)… hahaaaa, I’m now beginning to laugh at this absurdity.
I’ve sat here with absolute amazement (when I ask if Peskov is lying, if Mishustin is lying) and had to look at a casual rubbishing of those two – as – they ‘probably just accept what is given to them because, you’ve guessed it, they are not scientists and oh, the poor dears, they just don’t know. (But all of the scientists are wrong). Even the Kremlin and Russian Governmental physicians are just wrong in diagnosing their own people. There is only one person on this whole earth that understands this thing. And that has become too much for me to swallow – especially with continual casual rubbishing in an area where I am quite fair in knowledge and practice.
And yes, I am done with casual insults from these quarters of how clearly ‘uneducated’ everyone else is and how we ‘just don’t understand’. This time, I fight. It’s been more than a year and I guess yesterday’s mocking was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me.
We all know we have mod rules here. And unfortunately, they are sometimes inadvertently counter-productive in situations such as these. So, if someone comes back to challenge the absurdity, that person is usually moderated because it is so absurd, that people struggle to keep their language clean or struggle to spend the time to make an argument and just call out the BS. And then, if someone like I actually do it, we get screeds and screeds of other stuff thrown in, walls of text, completely obscurantist, too much to bother to respond to – and the absurdities continue. This time I fight for principle because I have too many angry ones in my inbox again. There is also another sneaky method to rubbish and insult putting unneccesary pressure on site resources, but I cannot detail that, on account of not giving anyone any ideas.
I get a little giddy if I read stuff like this:
“This virus has come as a breath of air and relief, I would suggest, to many countries.
As a disease, it’s nothing.
As a means of Governments using violence to prevent incursion by foreign backed “refugees” being accepted by the population at large, it’s a God send.!! ”
I am not kidding. And another one, I remember but don’t have the reference: We call this the old person’s helper (or savior or something like that).
Science by all appearances could be transparent but isn’t, so people aren’t entirely wrong as seeing it as a probable scam.
Today I was actually thinking about all the international bodies and and how they are old wineskins in a constantly renewing and changing world and how tenuous their authority is — maybe this is a more productive question, unfortunately all I have on this is a vague impression.
And then there are biolabs throughout the word. There is a Richard Lugar Center, I believe, in the Republic of Georgia (Does having one’s name attached to something like that make one a great person or a pile of excrement?) Is this meant to project the narrative of Man’s mastery over Nature? I wonder if not theater and fear are part of the reason for their existence that and siphoning money from national treasuries. Anthrax, as a weapon I can get my mind around, but what I see mainly is a spell of fear — the anthropological/psychic dimension of the whole thing : clean and unclean which also is a weaponization.
My thoughts are disorganized, I apologize. Peace and Love to all
My thoughts are disorganized, I apologize.
Heaven help us us when the get into order…
For some strange reason, I get your thoughts – disorganized or not. You’re looking for the other dimensions .. and we should do that imv. Clean and unclean? Good thoughts. I can let the mind wander around that one for sure.
On the international bodies, I take my cue from the Russians. We need to have them for coordination (no man is an island), but they are exceedingly ‘unclean’ and must be re-organized.
A quick story – I was talking to an American that still believed the world was as he thought it was – a few years ago when the Ebola scare was the fashion. I let him know there was a weaponized US bio lab in West Africa, whichever country it was where the supposed Ebola outbreak happened (dirty ‘unclean’ locals eating bush meat was the excuse). He said he did not believe me, and could I give him a link to their website so he could confirm – I was actually momentarily jealous of his ignorant innocence.
The secret is to meaningfully join other dimensions with science in crystal clear, reasoned ways that honour both and leave the reader free because they have been imbued with logic. Logos = the Word.
We will do our best to do right that :-). But it is a tall order.
I miss the age of logic, now that the age of unbridled emotionality seems to be the order of the day. But I guess, we have to learn that language, to be able to be understood.
hello, the heart is not separate from Logic, the Logos, the Word, and for that reason, the connect between the spiritual dimension and science has authenticity, and is marvellously demonstrated on here. even if not appreciated, that is no problem, or when someone may be struggling. but still does it, we can learn, it’s practice , , to be free, to be heart centred, to have inner sovereignty, , to be able to practice living thinking. bye bye, and thank you.
weighing in on Amarynth’s comment and adding my “kitchen sink”
Yes, and the plausible deniability factor is : “oops, there was a mishap of a nasty “thing-ee” escape!” These labs should be regulated by international treaty and limited in number.
What viral deniers need to know is that these “thing-ies” which are being concocted are what I call “trans-natural” substances alien to this biosphere yet their diabolical effectiveness is based on using biological principles and processes. They are not viruses anymore. We need to go beyond the either/or narratives of terrain versus agent theory of disease as there is a much, much more sophisticated and deadly game afoot.
And Covid-19 was just a “dry-run” so to speak. Hopefully I am wrong on this but what usually happens is that in some aspects of a discussion I am “right” for the moment and then as more is revealed, I am “wrong” for that next moment. But that is all head stuff which becomes stultifying after awhile and especially after endless repetition and verbal hammering.
I am dealing with “the Trance” here in my neighborhood. Only about 20% of us are refuseniks when it comes to taking this gene therapy bioweapon jab. “The Trance” is impervious to reason and since it is fixed in fear it is immovable. A Greater force than what I can muster in the angry prophet role will have to be the mover and shaker of the group consciousness here in the belly of the Beast.
More will be revealed.
Meanwhile, I have become somewhat of a dreaded, truth-teller fulcrum of sorts here. Yesterday the fiery pre-Tribulation Christian stomped up to me and brought up the subject of whether those of us ( and she had a much longer list than I) who are Pfizer-refusniks will be excluded from using the Club House facilities when it opens. I told her that my position in the social club was for us not to take any part in the enforcement of State sponsored or owner required policing of the residents. period. Looks as if pre-rapture for her might involve a bit of shunning? I will just avoid using the club house completely since getting involved in divide and conquer operations is not my game and I will resign as secretary if necessary. A bigger game is afoot on the State and National level but the City and County level still offers some wiggle room for creative solutions at least at this time.
I may have to move to a state with all of the following: 1. Law that reaffirms the 2nd amendment 2. a law that is clear on the requirements for establishing citizenship for voting 3. a law affirming that places of worship are as “essential” as big retail/food outlets. Yep.. God and Guns and unalienable rights.
There is no disagreement here and yes, I hope you are wrong too! Keep in mind as an outlier in the general discussion. I have no proof or even evidence of what I am saying, excepting an understanding of how and when stuff grows and the weather and climate. We may see things during this climatic change, that we don’t know of now.
Hi Amarynth,
Both theories are familiar to me> I also have read Rene Quinton. and others. But my point is different. The exciting medical science actually a necroscience of dead and disease sees only our material envelope. We are Sapiens, human animals. Indeed no animal has been more beastly then “man” Our higher notions and visions of god and Spirit are chimeras produced by the brain’s god spot , or are vain imaginations morbid concoctions produced by a deranged brain. Are we nothing but the result of physical matter regulated by glands, steered by genes and directed by a dubious CEO which is the brain? Study the gene etc. to the ultimate limit and you will still not find me or you or anybody there and what we really are.
A question, can an organism spread out of controle all over if there is not a fertile ground on which it can thrive? Then what in this pandemic case is this fertile ground? Well that would go against the narrative. There is some mention about collapsed immunity systems and some-even less- about what to do to upgrade it and restore it to its full potential. But the indoctrination by the omnipresent and omnipotent covid god triumphs. Me thinks we have above our physical frame a life force, a vital entity that activates the frame, we have a mind that can direct or be submitted to the vital life force we have a consciousness which acts in the life force as instinct and on the mind as subconscious hints It makes us take this road instead of that one and the consciousness acts on the mind and its own plane. And if we have a subconscious range maybe we have a super conscious range as well and above that we are a spirit which can direct the mind and life. (Nicola Tesla says we are a body of light.) If we are pure matter then we are fully subjected to pure matter. But are we really only flesh and bones?. Whatever, each one has his opinions. But I think it is about time that we at least start respecting our body, give it the healthy condition by calling in the life force to make it strong and subtle by discipline and exercise like yoga or whatever, by breathing exercises in the fresh morning air. By giving it healthy food in a balanced matter, water. By using the mind to create a positive attitude and character of confidence and ban fear and the negative forces that try to cripple us far away from us, a healthy body with a healthy mind is as old as the hills. And give a bit more attention to the Spirit by opening our mind and heart to the intuitions and guidance of the Spirit or a guide on this path. It is now the moment in which one can understand that a essential change of consciousness is a must. Besides looking at the present situation; Russia and China are surrounded by bio-war labs and these will spread their poisons year after year and will there be lock downs at infinity and for ever and ever new pills and vaccines every year? Oh sure there will be endless discussions and science will claim it is like this and and another angle will say it is like that etc.
This: right here! is valid and you state it well: “The exciting medical science actually a necroscience of dead and disease sees only our material envelope.”
You sound somewhat like Teilhard de Chardin – who for whatever reason, I like as well although there are of course questions like always. We talk easily about ‘change of consciousness’. I wonder if we really know what that requires? I see change of knowledge base, change of stance, change of those things based in our physical world. Today we eat crappy food, tomorrow we are more knowledgeable and fix our food. Change of consciousness is not so easy for me – I keep thinking that it would be an amazing thing if this can actually be accomplished in the physical and I truly have doubts that it can. If we are proponents of an afterlife of any kind, and perhaps a return to the physical, my mind takes me to that place, and that is where the lasting consciousness changes may happen. Don’t know Bernie, these are big things and little things that you are writing about. I feel equipped sometimes on the little things but feel sure that the big things need more miracles.
Just musings Bernie.
Yes it maybe just words but a change of perceptions that you can agree on as you say change of stance. I used to be a sort of student leader but not much on the political level although that was also there. But in braws and heavy parties and drinking feats and things i don’t like to mention. Then one day – well night – during a wild party, half drunk I climbed on to something and then from above I saw this group of boys and girls haven great fun dancing wildly. etc and it came to me that this is 100% fake there is in all this nothing real people here were just puppets moved by the force of alcohol and a wild movement. I came down went away never drank smoked or did anything anymore of this sorts. I felt relieved as if i have dropped a heavy weight……My live took a different turn.
Nice story! I think I was too stupid (and probably still am too stupid) to recognize those moments, in the moment. It took a bit longer for me (we were talking about embracing an inner slug here and I laughed). I had to write a piece for The Saker and the baby site about me, and this is what I came up with – you’ll recognize my ‘moments’.
https://saker.community/2018/05/04/humorous-treatment-of-amarynths-hats/
About changes of consciousness, no, we do not say it is easy to talk about, it is hard, that is why it is resisted, and fought against. Those who say it is easy lie, and have plenty of words about all manner of things.
The material world is born from the spiritual world, the two are connected, joined, but will separate without the change of consciousness, the physical will predominate more and more, as we see all around us today if we stay open,- it’s hard – but barbarism will be, is, the result of the lack of connection. It is up to us, why else do we write poems on here, and try to present the broad perspective, on all subjects, again and again and again….
The miracle is in the tiniest thing, one blade of grass. No blade that ever was, that ever will be, is the same. No snowflake can be replicated. All life is a total miracle, but this engenders fear, and that is why it is not properly faced, why delusion manifests.
If you are not fighting against, then work with, do not ban subjects or people.
No one wants to say, you are bad, I am good, that is the problem of spiritual battles. Biden bad Putin good. (Trump terrifically terrible, Putin perfectly pure). But it happens all the time, personal delusion. No one is perfect,
And those who say they are not afraid are the ones who are, and to admit to fear, that is honest, they overcome fear for others sake, and are truly objective The sun of truth shines when humility, honesty, prevail.
This Café is not a club, it is place for sovereignty of ideas, respect for all, how hard is that, like climbing the highest mountain, but not so hard as realizing ones own folly.
OK, new Café !!!
I’m a little pangolin, see my snazzy snout
I forage around the grasslands; ants, watch out!
I’m mostly cute n cuddly, but my feet can be a bit muddly,
Especially when the rain makes the ground soft n puddly
My own business I prefer to mind
I wish no harm to humankind.
But some mad scientist took my genes and put them in a vat
Then said I’d done something incomprehensible with a Yunnan bat.
Oh woe is me,
I’m unfairly charged with covid complicity
So unfair, when I only extend everyone gracious felicity
Pangolin
Mandolin
Grievous sin
It ‘‘t’wasn’t me, nor any of my kin.
‘‘Twas Bill and his mates,
They’re the reprobates
Their global scenario clearly states
Eugenics is fine, no need for debates.
Now already they’ve moved on from this lie
To future good health a vaccine they tie
And as vaccine becomes a matter of jab and die
Hasn’t anyone seen that movie, The Fly?
A whale afraid of becoming a fly
The world has gone mad, the angels cry
Oh Dimitar Dimitar what have you done
My minds running overtime, and everything’s a pun
I kinda think I should stop, but I’m having great fun
Writing about days long ago when I suffered the runs.
Oh Dimitar Dimitar I missed you last caf; I sat at the bar,
Now I’m ordering crepes, waiting your arrival, so we can spar.
We’re done by the beach, it’s really not far
I am sure you can walk here, no need for a car.
Oh Dimitar Dimitar what have you done
What if this poetry fest has only just begun
I fear the overworked mod will reach for a gun
Dear friend, you do not want to know where I am, and what I am tasked with, but I do have this humble offering, ( w. apologies to the person turned off by “endless poetic rants…”, I stand guilty ). I will catch up a little later, when I have a little time to spend with your stuff, cheers, D.
The Songbird
Late at night
The songbird sings.
You listen and you strain
Your ears to hear,
That song so far,
That song so near;
Late at night when
The songbird sings.
Early in the mornin’
The songbird flies.
You wonder when it wakes
And when it lies.
You wonder why it weeps,
And why it cries,
Early in the mornin’
When the songbird flies.
In the middle of the day
With the songbird fled,
You’ve heaved, you’ve hewn
You’ve toiled, you’ve bled.
You’ve survived the monsoon
You’ve buried the dead,
In the middle of the day,
With the songbird fled.
Early in the evenin’
The songbird appears.
You put away doubts.
You put away fears.
You put away sorrows
You put away tears,
Early in the evenin’
When the songbird appears.
Deep in the night
When the songbird sings,
You’re wide awake
As its song begins.
You listen and you follow
To the temple within…
Deep in the night
When the songbird sings.
LOL. “g, ( w. apologies to the person turned off by “endless poetic rants…”, I stand guilty ). ”
I wouldn’t worry Dimitar. You know that saying about “you can’t please everybody so — gotta please yourself”
Some wont like them – many do. You have many fans here just for your “poetic rants” :-
So – no apologies, and please dont stop.
Of course, Pamela. To be fair, ‘endless poetic rants’ could mean anything, so I’m probably in agreement w. that person. However, the right to poetry, yes, we have a tradition here in this here Caf…
Yes, poetic rants come in all shapes and sizes, poems likewise, but they are universal to a greater degree as they can reach people, even prose can of course, but poems are a level higher. Everyone has riffs arguments disagreements and more. (By ‘higher level’ I mean the huge effort and human capacity to rise above materialism, the banality, the tyranny death squads, and be human, even the travail of personal circumstances, otherwise what holds back the 21st tide of barbarism ?)
Thank you so much Dimitar and White Whale, I’m a pangolin too, stick around !!!
well, he rides on
up ahead of the pack,
he ain’t no grey
and he aint no black
his name is whitey
and he takes up the slack
when dimitar’s busy
and ioan’s out back
theres poets in the air
poets on the beat,
poets in the sea
and poets on the street
for every poem
a reason and rhyme
for every poet
a season and time
when people grow old
and finally die,
gone all they said
in the wink of an eye
but the words of the poets
will always remain
to drive away
the wind and the rain…
well, he rides on
up ahead of the pack
he ain’t no grey
and he ain’t no black
he’s got the fever
and he won’t look back,
now dimitar’s busy
and ioan’s out back
piercingly poignant dear Dimitar 💎
Infected indeed
Dimitar planted the seed
With time on my hands, I followed his lead
All protests to stop, the whale fails to heed.
Care not that stanzas raw and unedited, makes some eyes bleed.
In poetry’s power Dimmie is a believer,
Surrendering to both cadence and fever
Knowing a random thought anywhere can work as a lever.
Then he crafts away like a diligent beaver
Choosing an avatar, a leviathan of old,
I surely now can dare to be bold
Why care what they say, I am soon to be old
And I’ve never been one to do what I’m told.
With Dimitar’s coaching a bit of fun can be had
And those who don’t like it, they can stay mad.
For his wise words as counsel, I am sure glad.
And I fancy this poetry gig is more than a fad.
Laughter …Now in addition to my inner slug to hug….I have, thanks to our mad poet’s society, a born again pangolin to set howlin’ and adding to the aggrieved Laotion louse who might just migrate to a kangaroo’s pouch.
Kathleen, our beloved serious, not-poet, has been around for a long time so…eh, to each his/her own.
Anything to cultivate the heart center….and thank you White Whale for your versatilely/versimility
Well thanks for the kind words.
And thanks for this specific word: versimility
It is a new one for me, and having looked it up, most gracious of you to share it.
versimility.
I like it.😊
Ok, since we’re on this poetry thing, and you’ve showed up, WW, here’s an exercise for ya… take that last poem, or any poem, and pick a single line, your favourite line. In the poem above for me that would be, “I’ve never been one to do what I’m told…” and make this the refrain of your poem, so you have it appear each verse. It’s a good exercise as it helps streamline our poems down, and gets rid of a little bit of fill. Every poem should have some left over lines, you don’t need everything in there, so the lesson is the law of economy, really. Keeping things focused and simple.
>> I’ve never been one to do what I’m told!
Well, since this is not a *directive*!, but a helpful, coaching *suggestion*!
I’ll give it a try😉
Ok. It’s done.
I’ve called it
Meditation on obedience
Dedicated to Dimitar
As this cafe is getting a bit congested/ bit of cacophony!
Hopefully I will swim past at the right time to catch opening of new cafe.
Catch you my friend
Report from Anoxia>
I have no idea what the “regulations” call for in our neck o woods so far as masks and so forth. The stores are crowded. Some people wear masks, most don’t. Pretty much most people ignore the “rules” – and it seems they have decided to ignore the so-called “pandemic”.
Some people take the “vaccine” (whatever it is).
People have noticed that the death rate is about normal….
The motorcycle clubs are active with “group rides”…
The bars are open.
The cops pay no attention, and they don’t wear masks either.
“Biden” has become a popular term, as in “do a Biden” meaning do something characteristic of an idiot or a fool.
Bumperstickers and signs for Trumpie remain, while Biden stickers with a commie hammer n sickle are seen.
The matter is fast becoming a nasty joke.
Nobody is going to turn in their gun. Nobody. (I may be the only fella hereabouts what does not keep a gun, age, poor eyesight…and an absolute unwillingness to shoot anything that’s alive…gave ’em away long ago)
Some people might want to get a cheap (30$ 2 meter “handi-talkie) so as to listen to hams and cops… It’s fun, and a learning thing too. Of course you can probably get licensed to transmit…if you study and take the tests. One hears a lot. And it’s not really fake-able… ie what you overhear is largely sincere.
For myself, I rather expect Trumpie to be restored to office before the year’s over…especially if the Empire is seen to be massively defeated in Ukraine. You know, like Mao said…power. Bidenz got no power, consent failed to materialize from the coup/fraud.
Ukraine is broadcasting that it is backing down on its threats of war.
https://www.moonofalabama.org
Who knows what to read into this?
I am sure that there is a story (stories) behind this but I don’t know what they may be.
Personal take? The Banderistas of Ukraine, possible with CIA backing, thought they could force an issue, by presenting the backers with a fait accompli i.e. if we start a firing situation they will have to come to the party.
The US and EU and NATO have said “forget it. We are not sending you anything. You think we want a war with Russia – and be sent home with our tail between our legs”. ?
So the Banderistas decided they had to curtail it in as face saving way as they could.
I think the ONLY way there will be a war is if the fanatical narcissist ideologues of America get the power to make it happen. I suspect, so far, they haven’t. – got that power; and however insane, or weak, or stupid the rest are, they are terrified to death of a war with Russia. So – lets hope the insane ideologues dont get their hands on the levers of power and influence to do it.
Pamela,
This is my gut feel. One (or both) of two things happened.
One, friends of Zelensky told him that other former friends of the United States did not fare so well after their usefulness ended. e.g. Saddam Hussain, Manual Noriega, etc.
Two, Putin let it be known that if there was a war he was going to re-patriate all Russian speaking areas along the Black Sea all the way to Transnistria. Ukraine would end up being virtually landlocked. The Russians would be able to install even more anti-ship batteries all long the coast of the Black Sea.
NATO then told Zelensky, “you know that war we were talking about, well, let’s put that on ice for a while.”
And the beat goes on: Busy week for Merkel et al coming up!
https://news.antiwar.com/2021/04/10/us-secretaries-of-defense-and-state-headed-to-nato-headquarters-over-ukraine-crisis/
Actually does not mention meeting Merkel…(.or Macron) so it must be about NS2 …going to bypass her(them.)…or just leave her to the attentions of the new special NS USA Envoy. Sounds like a full on attack on German politicians. With a final meeting with raging Russophobic Ben Wallace(UK will do anything to be the USA poodle) to do the final set up.
https://anti-empire.com/americas-1980s-japanese-lesson-for-todays-china/
That a jealous Reagan imposed tariffs on Japanese goods (and even gleefully destroyed some) during the 1980s is no secret. But one comment
has left me wondering: How did products like Nintendo’s NES (a.k.a. Family Computer or “Famicom”) or Namco’s Pac-Man become as popular as they were during the 1980s to the point where they are still remembered to this very day? Was their success not affected by Reagan’s tariffs? (I’ve tried to look it up on DuckDuckGo and have yet to find a good answer.)
Russia, and history as long as we have known it tells us of it’s battles is now dead locked with the west in a contemporary military impasse.. But looking back to the beginning, and I read this here, the Celtic influence inspired Russia (- inspire means breathe into), and from the far West to the East in forgotten ages..
The hatred and Slavic demonization came later,
A thought worth entertaining, clear the slate, wipe the black/white-board for a moment, breathe out ….
Celtic themes have surfaced at the Café, and in connection to Mother Russia, a country held as the Feminine principle, long time worshipped as such, way before Jesus was born, and rose from the cross, which was witnessed also by the way by His Mother Mary.
Today feminism is a moveable concept, but on a deeper level men have qualities typically feminine and vice versa, a fact that struggles to be realized.
A Gaelic verse from the Islands of Scotland, and conveyed orally through the centuries.
A mother’s Consecration :
Be the great God between they two shoulders
To protect thee in they going and thy coming,
be the son of Virgin Mary near thine heart,
And be the perfect Spirit upon thee pouring —
Oh, the perfect Spirit upon thee pouring!
The Gaels are not and never have been Celts.
The indications from Historical evidence suggests the opposite – that the Celts may have hailed from Siberia, as there are a people there with a similar name “kets” pronounced “k-ye-t”s.
Julius Cesear Campaign notes from France talks of meeting with “a wandering people from the East, who call themselves Celts {or C-ye-lts”}.
And an archaeological dig found a grave from the south of Russia, Khakassia, has a mans’ belt buckle with the identical dragon on it that is on our flag.
We have no idea where our dragon came from, as we have had him “forever” — and historically, there is no record of ANY dragon lore in the area it was found.
Also we have an increased % of the so-call “Asian Allele” the blood group B, as it is common in the Orient – 45% but rare – 5% among AngloSaxons.
We also seem to have a natural affinity to Russia and things Russian. Donbass, for example, was established by a Welshman; there was a case of a Welsh reporter bringing much truth to the West from Russia decades back – he died in Mongolia in a botched prisoner exchange. Many of us have gone there and have reported that ” I felt instantly at home the first time I set foot there”. We cannot explain this.
So I would say, it’s more we came from the East – and maybe Siberia – than any other.
Thank you for your interesting thoughts to my comment ! This was based upon an article linked in the Café in relation to ancient Celtic origins, and how these spread from Ireland to Russia.
May the Celts, the Gaelic people, the Russians of all time, all readers, hear each other. Amen.
Changes of consciousness, that was the point of my comment, and yours as well, I’m sure, but truth and freedom veers towards a central position, and seeks to avoid polarity, dissent of ideas, and dare I type these letters, e g o
My brief attempt to create a moment of a change of consciousness rested on the Realty of Life, of Thinking, in the hope that such a moment engenders the butterfly effect, the wish, the hope to affect the chance, however small, of de-escalation of the USA at loggerheads with Russia.
I cannot think of anything more vital, more urgent . It can only work through tolerance, breathing, so thank you.
This article explains the ‘Bohemian’ nature of the Celtic people
Best wishes
https://www.irishorigenes.com/content/origin-irish-and-scottish-gaels-revealed-their-dna
Sorry . Did not put in the link above
Thanks Anomalous,
that was really interesting. It reminded me too of the Julius Caesar books on the civil war and the Gallic war. You wouldn’t think books written 2000 years ago by a general would be that great – but to my surprise – I couldn’t put them down.
Very glad to have that info-link on the Gaelic people, fascinating.
Here is the link to my first comment above, re Celtic origins in Ireland, through Europe to Russia :
http://ascadministrator.blogspot.com/2014/09/skythianos-past-present-and-future.html?m=1
Yes, I posted that link in a previous café because I found it of interest. I have not studied Rudolf Steiner’s works in any depth but I have a lot of respect for him. He had such a high mind that what he said was worth considering.
On the subject of linage for me what is most important is my spiritual lineage but it is a matter of respect to know and acknowledge ones ancestors.
The Celtic people of Scotland and Ireland seem to have arrived en masse in the time of Julius Caesar but they had with them their own druids. The druids on the islands did not take part in warfare and certainly would not have been killed by the incoming people. The spiritual line of the pre-existing spiritual masters on the islands would have been preserved.
Thank you, yes, I searched in the Cafe chronicles and found again, very glad you posted as it had struck me at once as being important.
Also, from the Gallic link above, the DNA test results speak of the river Rhine, and the Mosel (sp?) tributary, there were two streams of Celticism, Sea and river fairing were their means of travel and communication,
Many links, many perspectives help create a picture
I would really like to share this “find” – I feel sure many will find it deeply interesting. I certainly did:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74F22bjBmqE
Vitamin D, Deep sleep & Gut Bacteria w/ Dr. Stasha Gominak
Dr. Stasha Gominak, a deeply intelligent woman of extensive reading, knowledge and experience, talking of her work in neurophysical health, and the wide pathways it has taken her – or rather, her questioning, open mind has taken her, in her work to help those with health issue expressed in severe sleep and related disorders.
As we know, sleep disorder is another of the major issues facing the developed world these days. She traces from history and that disaster called the Industrial Revolution, which took people indoors all day, losing exposure to sunlight, thus increasing Vit D deficiency, but also how this affects the micro-biome, the vast teaming “civilisation” of bacteria in our gut, and it’s essential work for us. How it’s normally these biologic entities which make VitD for themselves, but which feeds us, and now how it affects the Vit B complex and the essential balance needed here; the way these Vitamins affect the brain stem, why we need sleep and sleep paralysis, and how this is part of our natural self healing mechanisms.
It is long, and without a background in biology some may find it a bit complex, but she is an excellent speaker and teacher, and it can be stopped at intervals for absorption.
The other thing I loved about it, was seeing a mind at work. Dr. Gominak talks us through what she imagines, and sees when trying to solve a problem. I was amused at her imagination of “someone in there had to remember to stop this pump, and manipulate these wires…”. It reminded me of Einstein, saying he came to one of his insights by “I imagined I was riding a beam of light, and saw the Universe as it would look from that”.
She questions, draws analogies, sees logical progressions. And she is totally honest – as such always are. It’s the fake ersatz scientists who use weasel words to cover up what they dont know, and never admit to an error. Dr. Gominak does confess to an error, of Vit B dosage – but she tells what she learned from her error. She also demonstrates very clearly what is meant by “proof” and tells where she doesn’t have it.
She states one idea of a causation she has and adds “That’s my hypothesis, and I think I’m right, but have no proof of it”. She means she has not – yet – been able to set up the experiments with their null hypotheses and controls, to supply the evidence that her hypothesis is correct to others, so that they can test it. This is what the Scientific Method s all about – and what is lacking in so many other areas. And it is honest.
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So – please do give it a try – I think you’d need normal speed to take it all in. I will be making my notes from it. But without that much effort, I believe her support for reversion to normality of life, i.e. get out in the sun, exercise, fast intermittently, watch your diet, but get a lab test for your VitD and B levels, and use the best supplement to bring them up to speed, and monitor your sleep quality and it’s effectiveness, plus your breathing, to ensure good health is an essential one for us all.,
Additionally, however, the saddest thing to me was her discovery of the 4 essential microbial species we acquire during normal delivery birth from Mother – and how essential these are {one of them makes an enzyme without which we cannot even fully digest Mothers milk !!} and how so many young women on bad fast food diets dont have it, so that babies aren’t getting the bugs they need, but instead are being injected with “vaccines” and other poisons.
I swear to God, future Historians will be designating this the Age of the Utterly Stupid!!
So – I hope many find in interesting, useful, or even inspiring.
This is VERY GOOD listening!
and yes, one needs a biology/medical background, to get the fuller picture
but its VERY GOOD even for those who do not understand the big words – do listen if you have time
We are completely self-healing….
1:10:50
I am shock to hear only 10% of western population sleep well, that means 90% are on some sort of sleeping pills (Big Pharma loves you to death) or being torture by insomnia endlessly
which makes me think more on vit D, deep REM sleep and gut bacteria
Dr. Stasha Gominak says she has sleep disorder herself and she is taking medication
so what she shares here makes it even more compelling, as a doc and as private person figuring things out
she is humble in acknowledging where her knowledge gap are and what is still yet to be put through solid experiments
It is my belief that our body is a piece of miracle mechine
and we can literally live forever, or at least a much longer and less to no aging/sickness,
given the right conditions
in the deep mountains in the east its common to find ppl into their hunderds and still chopping woods and carrying water like they are at their prime age!
they obviously have no sleeping problems :)
I give this my top recommandation!
Thanks for the hard work, Pam :)
I reply to one of the poster here earlier today
and it got bin by the mods
HA :D I ask the poster to buy me ice-cream (10 times) if I answer her question correctly (silly me)
but more important – I was sharing with this poster on the below…
When paradigm shifts, everything goes back to zero.
Let that sink in.
If I can pick on the mod who bin my silly post, did so because he/she ran certain paradigm and according to Saker’s policy here (another paradigm), the post did not pass the test. RESPECT mod!
and my point is, your doc also run certain paradigm. The heatlh system in your country also run certain paradigm and all this and there affects your life profoundly.
So again, what we know and were told about sleep/vit D/covid19, are based on western paradigm.
Find out how the east sleeps better w/out sleeping pills? maybe?
Meaning go actively command a paradigm shift in your own life, go back to zero and find out how the others in other parts of the world are sleeping, taking vit D (from the sun or synthetic) and whats the deal with covid19 and vitD…
You deserve much more than what the currect western paradigm is running your life.
One has to be open minded and be willing to go back to zero… and be brave!
Do make time to listen to this Utube – esp if you (or your family friends) have sleep problems.
I learn alot from Dr. Stasha Gominak. I think I will re-listen to it again.
It is that good in shifting (medical) paradigms…
there are new research new ways of thinking new multipolar world forcing its way through… every micro second
shift your paradigm that was forced upon you and dont serve you no good no more
be brave :)
be well be safe
Thanks for this Pam;
at first it had subtitles (need em) but they went away.
Noticed she is based in Tyler Texas!(not far away)
best
dth
Thanks Pamela,
very interesting – I’ll look out for more from this woman – loved her attitude.
Me too. She has a site of her own, and gives the detailed doses for the vitamins, plus some other things.
WHO, Bill Gates, Swiss Medic, vaccines and criminal immunity? Very strange legal issues in Switzerland with a Dr. Reiner Fullmich Public / Private partnerships and how the private sector is taking over. Very egregious activity? Change definition of immunity etc etc.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/audition-with-dr-reiner-fullmich-for-international-lawsuit-nuremberg/
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/audition-with-dr-reiner-fullmich-for-international-lawsuit-nuremberg-ii/
I’ve posted a couple comments in the Open Threads about the current Warfighter exercise in Texas, which includes French and British troops.
/should-russia-repeat-the-08-08-08-war-in-the-donbass-open-thread-8/#comment-925225
As a Canadian, I suggested that perhaps the British and French should not be trusted. On American soil. How many exercises do the Canadians hold – on Canadian-American soil – that include the British and the French? (Some of us had to negotiate for our independence with these people.)
Anyway.
I wondered what Lopez-Obrador thought about these trans-Atlantic visitors in his neighbourhood. I don’t speak Spanish, but I found this very cool video pinned on the Twitter account for Mexico’s ministry of defence, Secretaría de la Defensa Nacional.
https://twitter.com/SEDENAmx/status/1380522751258193920
En el estado de #Sonora, #México, los soldados del #EjéMx refrendan su lealtad al país en la ceremonia del juramento de la Etnia #Yaqui.
And, just for fun, I looked at the Twitter account for the UK Defence Attaché for Mexico and Guatamala. (Yes, that role exists.)
https://twitter.com/ukdainmexico
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nps.gov%2Fcagr%2Flearn%2Fkidsyouth%2Fimages%2FDesert-sonora285-wnpa_3.jpg%3Fmaxwidth%3D650%26autorotate%3Dfalse&f=1&nofb=1
regarding Anonymous, 11:05— hopefully this will pull up a map of the geographical reach of the Sonoran desert in the Mexican state of Sonora which is where this super patriotic video is filmed. It is very obviously addressed to the neighbor from the north.
All part of the globalists scheme to use all against all to break up the nation state…. In 2021 first start with destruction of the American working class, then on to Ukraine.
How Nordic people do the laundry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBkOOYbPrAo&ab_channel=JonnaJinton
The Nordic Morning Routine – Ice bath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyuRRWC5GY8
Did you know that ice can sing? – Ice sounds – Singing ice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chxn2szgEAg
Kent
Kent, my dear .. that laundry and that ice bath hurts my soul .. indeed, it hurts my bones .. it puts me in pain, just watching it. My heart would stop, right there. I only lived in that climate for one year – and people had to rescue me because I have not the first idea of how to survive.
I guess .. I’m a tropical bird, and others probably ice queens.
A discussion on Assange’s plight 2 years on :
https://consortiumnews.com/2021/04/10/watch-cn-live-two-years-after-arrest-lawmakers-for-assange/
Includes a quote from Sir Alan Duncan’s diary boasting about how he got Assange removed from the embassy. This lovely man was involved in buying London council property under the right to buy scheme which sold off hugely valuable property at a fraction of its value. This millionaire ex oil trader also brokered deals for friends in post NATO destroyed Libya. He was part of the government ( oversees development minister or something ) that bombed Libya’s water infrastructure – a war crime..
God. It says so much about that Ruling Clique, and everything that is wrong with the place to day, doesn’t it?
I hate the idea of violence, death dealt out deliberately, but sometimes, when I read things like this, I feel that maybe, after all, the French Revolutionists and Cuban ones had the right idea.
At least they got rid of all of them in Cuba – and look how it’s flourishing.
Yes, it’s difficult when you’re dealing with people that have no limits at all – hard not to eventually arrive at the guillotine. How do you change anything when all law can be suspended, truth tellers are jailed, recalcitrant leaders are removed or killed and all rights can be removed by fiat. I don’t know
Cuba, managing to maintain a first rate health service, has been a US designated enemy- with all that implies, for 60 years now. Will that ever change. ? Not any time soon.
So, I went to work yesterday and extracted most of the Covid discussion that happened here from basically end February last year, to around beginning of July, when the conversation changed. I wanted an anchor in history in terms of those signs of the times and also review how my own thoughts changed or not.
So, in a bit of separate database I tried to get an overview of ethos expressed, of fear expressed, of uncertainties (there were many), as well as positivity expressed. It was a lot of reading and I’m still reeling with a bit of a tense belly.
It blew my head off, blew my mind and blew my socks off! It was one hell of a time. I saw tremendous and even extreme kindnesses expressed – juxtaposed with extreme mocking. I saw myself staying factual best I could generally to no avail excepting from those that have a principled approach. I saw people (sorry for the word, I have no other) cackling their own superiority, and I saw others trying to gently moderate and ameliorate this. I saw true love expressed, the kind of all-accepting love that I am deficient in, and I saw what I can only describe as hatred, and harsh intolerance for any different approach or thought. Generally the trolls were not even recognized. I saw ioan (rest his soul) giving some warnings as to the tone of the conversation, only to be patted on the head and ignored or even attempts to argue his warnings. It was an extreme time –
“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.”
So, what did I learn? Yes, I got my ‘anchor in history’ OK, I think. I learned a few things but I expect periods of despair for myself in the next few days. Here goes:
I’ve always said that if you want to know hegemony, study the Julian Assange history and court history. Everything is there. You will know the enemy.
– Taking all this information in, I learned that us, ourselves, are our own biggest enemy. Without losing a beat, attack mode one to the other was on – and this for daring to say something. And for sure most of the extremes of those must have been moderated. People left in droves. Stances were taken so harshly that the deep love expressed in the process almost became an also ran and a source of emotional energy to continue along zealous paths in some cases, and not appreciated as perhaps a stop and think.
– I’ve also learned not to do this in one day, or perhaps it was fine to do it in one day, because the tenseness in the belly, the indigestion, may be over quickly (grins).
– A big ‘learn’ for me, is that I don’t say thank-you, or express appreciation half enough.
CAF says to clean your life from those that suck energy and stay with the positive and productive. Make moves if need be! I have a much better sense of why she says that. Taking in that timeslice yet again, like with Julian Assange, the enemy becomes really clear. First “he may just be us”. It does not feel positive. I’ve always had a firm stance that those that flock together are a wild strain, and somehow or other – humans are creative, intelligent, productive and we and our environment meld in some magical form–large parts of which we do not have understanding of … yet!.
We can overcome all things if we work intelligently and cleverly from a principled position, we are willing to stick our own hubris in the dustbin, we work much on ourselves first before others, and what I’m into doing now, is just the right thing for me .. a deepening of the approach to the health of the whole organism–no cut burn and poison necrotic mehodology– if it can be avoided– asking for much guidance from the designers, as we go along. I am uncertain about the CAF ‘division’ – its never been my way – its always been there is a reason for those that cross my path. Some noodling on that is necessary but it seems to be a division between the willing and the unwilling at some level? The reach toward life, instead of the fall into some kind of death?.
So that is where I am on this Monday – war still in the air – tensions blowing up or kept at a simmer everywhere, but we will chop wood and carry water before, and after, enlightenment. The kitchen floor will not stand up to the 10-second rule :-) so some scrubbing is in order in my neck of the woods – a scrubbing meditation.
scrubbing meditation? Ha :D
I’d just do OBE (Out of Body Experience) instead… see you all losers! Ha :D
I hear you dear truly
you can ask me any question you like or an exchange of any ideas
You are a good friend in this Cafe (and more to me, this reincarnation)
It is as I said to Babuška before…
when you are ready, Only when you are ready…
God with us becomes God in us
and then you become even More ready than that…
God in us becomes God is us
Rumi said so :)
There is really nothing else but chopping woods and carry water…
One with Nature. God is us. Not-thing-ness.
We dont have consciousness. We are little individually packed consciousness being light up in the larger unlimited boundless Consciousness – a tiny little dot in a ever living breathing evolving perfect picture
(I believe its a picture not a movie – what do you think?)
my question to anyone who wants to really really really live/breath –
“Why did you come to earth this time?”
(and in human form, not in animal form, not as spirit entities but human form. Why?)
…meaning how can this little tiny dot known what is the larger perfect picture (aka god is us)?
the little tiny dot will have to somehow jump out of the larger picture and move far far far away enough to ‘see’, right?
OBE? or scrubbing meditation?
HA :D
we have just come to a full circle, dear :p
hope you enjoy the little thought-trip :)
peace to you and your dear ones amarynth
rest well w plenty of good REM sleep :)
all ears – ‘talk’ any time :)
be well be safe dear
Sweet you are today.! But, 10 icecreams, dunno if that is a good deal :-)
You know I always bet for an icecream, because I don’t eat icecream – I sometimes wish I did because it is funny not to eat icecream. But at the end of the bet, if someone owes me, I can say with honor they don’t need to pay, or if I owe, I’m not giving away the farm with just an icecream. And it is a friendly bet.
REM, we do those things but from a vastly different perspective. I want to go and do some writing now – on that, and on using Tea Tree Oil both topical and internally. I just want to play and not work – be on strike! I never had time to burn during lockdown, because we kept The Saker site up. howl! where is my lockdown time off! I’m going to unionize lol.
No No No Madam
10 ice cream its very cheap its bargain for you
I already give you discount – you special only for you
we in asia – here hyperinflation so its good deal for you – only 10 ice cream
we no printer to make fake money we honest ppl here
you buy you buy – only last for today
Ha :D
dear seriously what the covid19 saga really hammer in me is –
I finally accept there really just ‘chopping wood and carrying water’…
family/friend said to me I better go get the jab or they worry they might be infected by me
I said they dont even know if there is a virus nor they know what is a virus to begin with
they look at me with their greatly fear magnified eyes (almost wanna cry)
I just said okie then I will move out (aka end of family/friend ties)
There is nothing else…
be well be safe
That’s my favourite quote out of all of literature, and by the time I’ve read the next line :
“…. we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, …” I am always reduced to tears. For me these are the very best opening lines ever written – at least that I know of.
Are you a glutton for punishment ? You must have had to plough through an awful lot of my repetitive moaning – that can’t be good for your health ! I’m sorry you had to go through that ( though you did choose to inflict it on yourself :-) ). All I can say in my defence is that it was well intentioned repetitive moaning.
All self-inflicted for sure :-) – madness, I tell you! And would you know it, this was even before the “repetitive moaning” started in earnest lol. I just wanted to wrap my head around those beginning months. I joked or ranted at one stage that I had reached ‘peak scientist’. That was about the time that The Saker made the rules because everybody and their dog was immediately a scientist. Crazy.
But a good outcome .. the 10-second rule is active again on that kitchen floor – but no enlightenment (grins).
It must be getting clear that I’m taking this day off!
People left in droves.
I am not one to
“Announce then flounce”.
But I swam by far less frequently.
I’d post something I ^thought^ people posting here *might* find of interest.
It’s hard to know if a link has been followed up, but almost all posts prompted no comment.
I lurked more, less contribution.
There were people I learned to scroll by very quickly.
Some names I miss, others not so much.
… of times.
…And time and *tide* wait for no man. Or Whale.
White Whale, one has to learn to grin and bear it, stiff upper lip old chap!
The best is when people leave and reincarnate again rather quickly, more flounce ! (My word… what have we here.- think lateral, it’s good for your health and well being, “she who must be obeyed” doesn’t get it – J Mortimer – what an appropriate name to link to lol))
It needs to be said, I was absolutely shocked to the core to see the recent attacks on Amarynth. I also must acknowledge the tremendous amount of work she has done for The Saker and the seemingly inexhaustible grace she has shown through this thoroughly unpleasant ordeal.
And so now some good news…just for a change…
On the subject of Covid-19, I was informed by my Ozone practitioner just today of a likely groundswell in recognition that this technology will be a major breakthrough in both prevention and treatment of Covid-19. Even more promising, this appears to be the case regardless of the stage the illness has progressed to.
I have only found two links [and include quotes from them as a brief summary] on this subject so far… but I will post more as they come to hand…my practitioner has promised he will forward them to me so that I can share them on this forum.
This has been a pet theory of mine since the beginning of the Covid outbreak but I was never able to find any references to it other than a few purely anecdotal observations. However, it was filed away and left merely as just another old farmer’s hunch. Obviously, I was delighted to finally find something with a bit of scientific substance.
…so the links to date…
#1
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7752030/
“Conclusions…
Ozone therapy could be a potential resource to modulate the patient immune response against SARS-CoV-2, contributing to contain the cellular oxidative stress of COVID-19 pneumonia and breaking the vicious cycle of cytokine storm observed in severe forms of the disease. Ozone therapy may also be a useful complementary treatment to be considered in patients suffering from early stage COVID-19 pneumonia, to prevent the progression to life-threatening disease.”
…and…
#2
2021 jan 2 :198207
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7585733/
“Abstract…
The main objective of this narrative review is to describe the available evidence on the possible antiviral activity of ozone in patients with COVID-19 and its therapeutic applicability through hospital protocols. Amongst different possible therapies for SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia, ozone therapy seems to have an immunological role because of the modulation of cytokines and interferons, including the induction of gamma interferon. Some data suggest the possible role of ozone therapy in SARS, either as a monotherapy or, more realistically, as an adjunct to standard treatment regimens; therefore, there is increasing interest in the role of ozone therapy in COVID-19 treatment
The PubMed and Scopus databases and the Italian Scientific Society of Oxygen Ozone Therapy website were used to identify articles focused on ozone therapy. The search was limited to articles published from January 2011 to July 2020. Of 280 articles found on ozone therapy, 13 were selected and narratively reviewed. Ozone exerts antiviral activity through the inhibition of viral replication and direct inactivation of viruses. Ozone is an antiviral drug enhancer and is not an alternative to antiviral drugs. Combined treatment with involving ozone and antivirals demonstrated a reduction in inflammation and lung damage. The routes of ozone administration are direct intravenous, major autohaemotherapy and extravascular blood oxygenation-ozonation.
Systemic ozone therapy seems useful in controlling inflammation, stimulating immunity and as antiviral activity and providing protection from acute coronary syndromes and ischaemia reperfusion damage, thus suggesting a new methodology of immune therapy. Systemic ozone therapy in combination with antivirals in COVID-19-positive patients may be justified, helpful and synergic.
Conclusion…
Systemic ozone therapy has several positive effects, such as control of inflammation, stimulation of immunity, low antiviral activity and protection from acute coronary syndromes and ischaemia reperfusion damage. This therapy could be a new method of immune therapy, so its use in combination with other antiviral drugs in COVID-19-positive patients may be justified, helpful and synergic. Ozone therapy carries no known adverse or toxic effects when performed properly. DIV is the easier route of administration, and its use has been hypothesized in the treatment of several pulmonary diseases, including theoretically SARS-CoV-2 infections.”
…unquote…
There are still however massive hurdles to seeing this technology deployed on a wide scale… as, in the case of Ivermectin…Big Pharma and TPTB will put tremendous resources into trying to bury this too.
In this case, it is not a cheap off-patent drug…indeed it is not even a drug at all… it’s a fricken gas that is abundance literally right under our noses! For crying out loud, with moderate investment, it can be harvested out of thin air…what’s not to like…’what a gas’…scuse the old cliche!
Cheers and regards from down under
Col
The Knutty Prophecies
And staying on the theme of Amarynth being put through the wringer for 12 long months and having to deal with a torrent of what The Saker himself calls…[idiotic “there is no pandemic” nonsense]… I thought it might be somewhat timely to reflect on just one example of the sort of lunacy that this group has persisted in promoting.
Does anyone remember the below prophecy…I certainly do and I’m sure Amarynth does too…some might care to reflect on the anniversary and even employ a wee bit of hindsight…especially those that were so wildly enthusiastic about what Witttkowski had to say.
And absolutely no surprises whatsoever that it was arch-Trump presstitute Ingraham who gleefully trotted this one out.
…I quote from the link below…
“Respiratory disease epidemics, and this is just one of those, they come and last about two weeks, they peak, they go for about two weeks,”
“So in a large country it lasts a bit longer, and in a smaller country, a bit shorter. So after three, four, or five weeks, we have immunity and we don’t have to think about it anymore.”
And what were some of the gushing responses in the comments section…how about……and I quote directly from the string dated April 05 2020…so it’s now actually past the anniversary…
“an excellent link here with Professor Wittkowski, who’se forgotten more about Epidemiology than any of us will ever know. Thankyou for that.”
“It’s a relief that, even in a small way, some of the science of epidemiology is beginning to be heard. More will be as time passes, as the old saying has it “Truth is the daughter, not of Authority, but of time.”
“Here’s hoping experts like this Professor and others we have seen being interviewed , are quickly listened to and their advise acted on asap.”
…end quotes…
This is black comedy at its most absurd and tragic level. Indeed if his advice had been acted on “asap” as the above commenter recommended, the upshot would have been a death toll in the US of, at the very least, 2-3 times what it currently stands at now.
And this is the sort of idiotic nonsense that Amarynth has had to contend with for more than a year now. Many simply couldn’t stomach it any longer and simply up and left. But Amarynth works there as The Saker assistant!
…and now the link…warning…brace yourself you will need considerable intestinal fortitude not to throw up listening to Ingraham fawning over what is, in essence, endorsing exactly what Trump wanted to do at the time.
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/05/fox-news-guest-says-respiratory-disease-epidemics-just-go-away-in-five-weeks/
So…case rested…Amarynth absolutely deserves a fricken medal!
And how ironic is that comment…indeed…”Truth is the daughter, not of Authority, but of time.” But perhaps not in the way the commenter expected!
Watcher at the time bravely stuck his neck out from the parapets…and was rewarded with this…
“why on earth are you persisting in saying this is a disease of limited lethality
Because, unlike yourself I know what I’m talking about.”
….end quote… the rest of this insulting reply had to be moderated out!
So there we have it… some major egg on face…at least from where I’m looking anyway … from upside down under
Col
PS…Also quoted from the link…
“Previously, he had been described by some news outlets as a “professor,” but Rockefeller University released a statement last month, as Wittkowski was first getting news attention for his contrarian views, that Wittkowski has never been a professor at Rockefeller University. The university also distanced itself from Wittkowski bizarre opinions on the pandemic.
“The opinions that have been expressed by Knut Wittkowski, discouraging social distancing in order to hasten the development of herd immunity to the novel coronavirus, do not represent the views of The Rockefeller University, its leadership, or its faculty,” the University said in a statement posted online on April 13.
“Wittkowski was previously employed by Rockefeller as a biostatistician. He has never held the title of professor at Rockefeller,” the statement continued.
Wittkowski’s older predictions about the pandemic haven’t aged very well. One interview he gave in early April predicted that the entire epidemic would be over in “four weeks” and roughly 10,000 Americans might die from covid-19, essentially putting it in line with a bad flu season in those four weeks. The current death toll in the U.S. is over 90,000 and rising.”
…end quote…
You can say that again re Knutty’s predictions not lasting well…at the moment he is out by a whopping 600%!
So even his own University virtually disowned him. And yet the hoax-hoaxers wailed and blubbered that he was the “Good Doctor” being victimized muzzled for telling the truth!
For crying out loud this reckless lunatic was shut down simply because he was a complete menace to humanity. If his advice had been acted on “asap” as one comment recommended, he would have caused literally millions of extra deaths on a global basis!
Dr from down under calls the dr he doesn’t agree with a nutty, but brings straw man arguments. As far as I can tell his suggestion was never taken so how can it be concluded he was wrong. Rockefeller anything doesn’t garner much credibility when you look at anything to do with that family.
Catherine Austin Fitts mentioned a similar killing unseasonal cold as reported to her from a berry and fruit farmer in N. Carolina, USA. She thinks it is “weather warfare” and it is true that Bill Gates does like to dabble in projects to change weather, so perhaps the sun cycle is getting a human boost.?
https://electroverse.net/early-season-snow-blasts-australia-worst-frosts-in-decades-ravage-europe-as-snow-and-record-cold-hits-uk/?utm_source=mailpoet&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=the-last-newsletter-total-posts-from-our-blog_1
@teranam13
Excuse me but Australia is a bit atypical. Australia has some of the most extreme variations between drought and flood from year to year very unpredictable.
Notwithstanding any local “weather warfare”, as a universal basic the weather is said to behave as the weather wants to behave, and not after what some scientific majority votes says it should behave.
I can believe in some military spreading something over an area (agent orange or similar), but when someone starts to claim they can control the weather and decide the 4 seasons Im out.
But Austin Fitts is a very Intelligent woman. Always worth to listen too.
Tomsen.
Agree 10,000%.
Nearly made a reply something like yours, but obeyed the inner voice that said “get off the damn internet”.
So took the dog for a walk and a swim (him not me) in the river, and he’s happy.
And, with glorious sunshine, temps high 20c, I got a huge dose of vitD, which will come in handy as we head to in to winter.
That’s right, Australia is heading into winter, so a “cold snap” in mid April should hardly be headline news.
The cold is affecting the far south and alpine areas.
Cradle Mountain in Tassie can get snow fall on Christmas Day, which is unseasonal, and does excite headlines. Especially as hikers are invariably caught out and need a rescue.
Because who takes a jacket when hiking in alpine areas mid summer. Well Aussies don’t.
Christmas/New Year 2019 the entire continent was a ball of flames – as we’d had years of a really severe drought.
That summer Nov-Feb I endured 4 days (not consecutive) at 46-47- then 48c. I can remember extreme days from childhood, but having so many extreme days in one season… was an outlier.
It was Hell.
About April my locality had a minor flood, because that’s how droughts end.
And this year we had a mostly mild summer, and very wet. Which lead to this more severe March flood, along with flooding in localities along the entire eastern seaboard.
I don’t attribute *any* of this to climate change, as every one of these weather events appears in the 200+ European settlement records, and the oral traditions of the indigenous original owners adds further evidence that Australia does not have 4 neat regular and predictable seasons.
And as I have returned to live in my childhood locality, I can recall floods larger than the one we just had.
I can remember horrendous bushfire seasons, I can absolutely remember scalding hot days, and I can remember “cold snaps”, like The Day it Snowed. (sleet really, and gone by 11am) and I can remember a day 20 years ago when it was -7c overnight.
And that *was* headline news.
A bit of snow in Tassie in April is not weather manipulation. IMHO.
My grandmother recalled how there was snow in England in June, she may have remembered so well because it occurred at the time she got married. Heavenly confetti, 50 years of happy marriage, happy grand daughter, ‘she’s right mate”. Frost in UK mid April, shock horror!
Some updates from the Intel Air & Sea Twitter account @air_intel, all posted in the last hour —
RAF
Voyager
ZZ334 RRR2758
Inbound to Romania with personnel / equipment in preparation for the RAF taking over NATO Air Policing duties from the Spanish Air Force.
USAF
RC-135W
62-4139 HORN41
Heading over the Gulf of Mexico
(Then to Columbia)
25 PLA aircraft entered Taiwan’s southwest ADIZ today
2x Y-8 ASW
1x KJ-500 AEW&C
4x J-10
14x J-16
4x H-6K
A few Tweets, featuring the wit of Geore Allison from UK Defence Journal (which I enjoy tremendously), on issues pertaining to the Ukraine situation:
https://twitter.com/UKDefJournal/status/1381554893081735176
https://twitter.com/UKDefJournal/status/1381572335866679296
https://twitter.com/UKDefJournal/status/1381605013319979012
https://twitter.com/UKDefJournal/status/1381628225198100480
I see that George Allison removed the second and third tweet from the series I posted above. I debated about whether I should respect his wishes, to delete these Tweets, or whether I should post what they said (as I can recall.)
Since he lives in one of the epicentre’s of the free world — touting the value of freedom of speech — (London?), he must set an example by carefully watching everything he says. I live in an odd, backwards Anglo-Franco centre, and so I can spout off more freely.
And I thought if some ”Ministry of Truth” official is going to serve him with a citation for what these series of Tweets by him suiggests, I might as well post what he Tweeted so others can know what caused the (purely hypothetical at this stage) kafuffle.
And a reminder, he is British. Irony, people, okay??
Tweet 2 was in reply to a Tweet about Russia having no intention of invading Ukraine. He replies something like, “then what are they doing, organizing tours of cathedrals?”
Tweet 3 was in reply to a comment about Northern Ireland, to which he replies something like, ”I am noticing a lot of whataboutery lately. when asked about Ukraine, the response is what about Northern Ireland. Basically that.” (I’m not saying it right!! Anyway, that’s the idea of the thing anyway.)
Cheers, George Allison. (And to The Saker, the mods, and those visiting the café.)
Lateral, clever, funny from the UK defence Journal -thanks !
The report warns however that failure to deal with current economic and political challenges could lead to a “splintering of the United Kingdom” and leave it “struggling to maintain its global power”.
“If the Ukraine are about to launch a war, why are they showing people around cathedrals”
Business sentiment in Canada near record
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/video/business-sentiment-in-canada-near-record~2179541
(as in record high levels, not the opposite as one might speculate about.)
Surprising news, that.
Always believe 100% in MSM. They could never ever paint the world pink to the public could they?
This is by far the most important news from the USA but it won’t be reported. Black people trashing their communities again and again will win the day, right? Also, the “Right-of-center” tag put on these veterans is meaningless in the current political climate although it does give an emotionality zing which is, after all the language of the realm these day. Using the word “populist” or” pro-working class” would be more relevant.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/how-state-legislators-are-working-reign-empire
This is a positive move, and within my own expectation that the States will start doing their own thing – sometimes under existing law, and sometimes because they can and sometimes with a finagle.
Two cameo stories.
9/11 was my call to leave the US for the warmongering. Business, household, life, sold up – I was not going to contribute to the war fever by my presence or by my taxes or by my productivity. About 2 weeks after 9/11, I was cooking breakfast and a young friend of my children came running in excited to the rafters – we’re going to fall in to Afghanistan, he was exulted! Said he – boots and all – we’re gonna get ’em! I think I dropped my egg flipper or something but my stomach fell a few stories to the floor for sure. In astonishment and shock I asked him .. What do you know about Afghanistan? No amount of gentle reasonable discussion would dissipate the blood thirsty excitement fever. So, here we are – how many years later?. The times? the poets were quiet, everyone was quiet – for some ice cold moment there, that I cannot tell you now how long it lasted in what we call time.
During the month after 9/11 we had a planned outside music concert in the town – local thing, local musicians. The organizers decided to continue anyways, but in a muted form, and not cancel. As we were walking up to the grassy park area to put down picnic blanket to sit on, just ahead of us walked a typical family – mom, dad, 2 boys – in the range, 6 to 9. Those two boys were dressed in perfect miniature army mufti – or whatever it is called. Toy guns (those were still toys at the time, it has changed now), boots, uniforms, patches, head gear .. the whole thing – as if they themselves were the utter perfection of soldiers, but in miniature. Those boys broke my heart as vision at that moment telescoped them into the future!
That time remains for me as a series of connected cameos and those two experiences, with others of course, live with me always, and remain in my ears and eyes.
As anyone who has read my posts knows, I like to post reports from Russia that friends post on FB. I think you know more about a country from what people that live there say than reports from outside. Among my many Russian friends I have one,a woman,that owns a company that does business in the EU and US. She doesn’t particularly like Putin,but supports most of his policies.And over the last year or so has been very critical of the West and the attacks on Russia.She posted this today and I thought it was interesting:
” Russian Judicial system humanization reform led to certain results. Russia has 3 times less legal articles with imprisonment than in UK and 5 times less than in US judicial system. While total number of jailed persons dropped to historical minimum around 100 000 keeping in mind 140 million population. Total number of crimes dropped heavily… while I always leave mobile and laptop in my car in Moscow and we are not afraid of any crime or robbery.”
@Uncle Bob
Yeah its really amazing what Putin did during his terms in all areas. One could suspect a heavenly helpful hand.
https://cairnsnews.org/2021/04/09/bill-gates-and-who-go-into-partnership-with-queensland-labor-party-to-supply-needle-less-vaccines-for-covid-rounds-twothree-four/
I wrote here some weeks ago that I thought somehow Qld was playing ‘the game’ differently from other regions.
Now I’m wondering if the above ‘news’ is the real reason, as this is the first I’ve heard about this deal.
How many Queenslanders are aware of this?
What I wait for this week is listening, less words from those who like to spill many, and more humour and poems.
The father of current Qld Premier is Henry Palaszczuk
continuing from the previous article:
“Henry Palaszczuk , a former Queensland Labor Party Primary Industries Minister, is now Chairman of Singapore-registered and China-tied Gene Technology Alliance Foundation GTA基金会
Cairns News published a story about the Premier’s father and his involvement in gene technology on March 9:
GTA Blockchain reports: On September 22, 2019 the GTA Gene Data Storage and Application Summit was grandly opened in Chaohu city of Anhui province. The event brought together celebrities, Nobel scientists, experts and scholars in the field of gene technology and data storage, sparking heated discussions on application of genetic big data and AI, gene data encryption and storage, human health and other relevant issues.
The participators got together to envision the prospects of genetic technology and unveil the mysteries of life. Mr. Henry Palaszczuk (Henry Baileqi), chairman of the GTA Foundation, made a speech on “Genetic Data Storage Leads the Change of Era”, in which he mentioned by leveraging the unique blockchain incentive mechanism, GTA encourages more individuals to participate in gene sequencing and storage.
The Pfizer and AstraZeneca so-called mRNA vaccines have been labeled as gene therapy by prominent epidemiologists as they do not fall into the US Centre for Disease Control’s definition of a vaccine.
The Labor Party Government refused to answer a query from Cairns News if the Premier’s father indeed was collecting DNA samples for his group from the State’s Covid testing laboratories.
Bill Gates has strategically positioned himself within Australia to provide vaccine patches for the predicted annual booster jab that the southern hemisphere and the remainder of the world will need for many years to come.
Here is the real story that will never be told by main stream media about this sinister vax delivery system happening in Brisbane under the noses of the one million inhabitants of the south east corner of the Sunshine State, the majority of whom voted for this despicable mob of full term abortionists.
Luciferase, or the Human Implantable Qantum Dot Microneedle Vaccination Delivery System could be defined as the ‘Mark of the Beast’ heralding the End Times. Gates is a eugenicist desperately trying to reduce the world’s population to 500 million and now it seems so are his new partners in crime who will profit handsomely from this Luciferian venture. Where are the idiots who voted for this communist Labor Party?
I have a different wavelenght on this covid from most here and the world –
other than the so-normalised crime against humanity,
the transfer of wealth, the ‘rescue’ for the banksters/cbs of the world/country, more uncheck control over entire earth population via emergency laws, thus turning every police officer in every country into nazis officer asking for papers (for your own good and its the new law), then the vaxx (you know the deal) and breaking up family friends by invoking fear of unknown (not to mention changing their physiology and their health condition), etc
is to ultimately collect gene… from the passive and subdue population
It was strange to me, earlier on, china had a fit on wanting in to produce the vaxx too, and force the west to give them the stamp to their copy right – is it not wierd that we have so many vaxx by all these different country? when the normal situation is that they only give us ONE choice? jab or die? multipolar world magic shining through?
hmmmm… looking back at WW, some would say alot of ‘personal data’ has been collected and many of the wounded were used as experiment white mice in alot of trails – UNchecked again… oh its for their own good we tried to save them… that theme again… they are trying so hard to ‘save’ us now…
Okie the rabbit holes goes very deep
but this is the Saker’s Cafe – pls be respectful of others who believe differently from us, the seperatist
we ask questions they dont want or cant answer does not mean we are right and they are wrong
there is no right or wrong, just right for who and wrong for who
This, I invite you to practice, that is love your enemy, give them the full human rights they wont or cant give you… while protecting yourself as much as possible
Leave the place or the person if it really comes to that…
Learn from the chinese ppl who live under western/foreign invation force for decades (and had to bow to their absurd new law for the yellow ppl and treat them as dogs)
we dont fight back every time…
sometimes its better to live another day, in peace and for survival…
Karma spins and one day we will be free… all of us, the seperatist and the narratives-believers
Just think what will you or what do you want to leave behind? (Same question to those who did all this emergency law action to us)
I am taking the more buddhist/taoist view – all will eventually comes back to perfect harmony
and this body this life is but one of many countless reincarnation/human story I experience while on earth
there is always another round…
If you are taking the belief of One Life only, decide if you want to make peace or make your mark
at the end of the day, perhaps this is one test for humanity – how to treat our enemy
thanks for the post Babuška
guess I wont be going back to land down under for another decade… too much trouble
be well be safe
It’s good to be with you again ?
It’s been a long time…
Thank You for your thoughtful, wise reply
I think this video from Mexico’s Defence Minister says some important things, but I don’t speak Spanish.
https://twitter.com/SEDENAmx/status/1381951456421539840
Participación del Gral. Srio. Def. Nal. en la #ConferenciaDePrensa matutina, 13 de abril de 2021.
Time: 4 min 14 secs
He is just outlining the routes where it is possible to be vaccinated.
Ah, so that’s what the talk of routes was about… thank you. I also think we should keep an eye on this media outlet, La Prensa Latina. (They covered the Xi-Merkel phone call.)
Another scoop!! — (all caps) Memphis in May 2021 (end of all caps): ”The World Championship Barbeque Cooking Contest” Tickets are On Sale
https://www.laprensalatina.com/memphis-in-may-2021-the-world-championship-barbecue-cooking-contest-tickets-are-on-sale/
Here’s another interesting perspective from them (and then I’ll stop, promise.)
Apr.12, 2021 – Yaku, the invisible candidate making his mark on Ecuador’s politics
https://www.laprensalatina.com/yaku-the-invisible-candidate-making-his-mark-on-ecuadors-politics/