Let’s pick a random 12 year old child, they can be male or female or gender fluid or anything else, it does not matter, all that matters is they are 12 years old.
Now pick a random 40 year old “adult”.
Now pick three scenarios
1/ teaching them (practical lessons) to drive
2/ teaching them (practical lessons) about sex
3/ teaching them (practical lessons) about electricity
Before I dig any further, this is prompted by a not too distant guy who has just been charged with child endangerment and who is no longer allowed to be in charge of his own kids, seems this fool, upon learning that his 12 year old was getting lessons in school, in theory only on a computer screen, how to wire a mains plug and what wire colour codes were and so on, decided that since he was an electrician he’d take the kid along to work one saturday, some dweb sees a kid in his shop, reports him, and the rest is history…
So anyway, apart from the guy above who has basically established that it is illegal to give a 12 year old practical lessons about electricity, I think we can pretty much take it as read that giving a 12 year old practical lessons about sex or driving will pretty much end up the same way, very badly, for the adult involved.
The “child” of course doesn’t get a say, and isn’t “punished” either, but their life is turned upside down, but that isn’t punishment… no sir.
My first question is why doesn’t the child get a say?
I am not asking you what the law is, I am asking you to make a case that justifies 99.9% of all possible applications, and if you cannot make that case, why should it be law? And if it is law and you cannot make that case, perhaps the law is there for another reason entirely than the stated one… “Homeland security” “Net neutrality” etc etc.
For example I can tell you that I learned to drive at 12, on the roads, in a 4×4, it didn’t harm me any, in fact it did me a lot of good, not waiting until my hormones were raging at an all time high before being handed some keys means I never really got the urge to go as fast as possible everywhere.
Similarly 12 year old’s are fucking, not all of them, but by the time they get to legal age >95% of them are fucking, but they are all doing it in the motoring equivalent of un-policed back roads in 50 buck wrecks with no brakes or lights or steering or safety or training or anything, because it’s illegal, and if you’re an adult it’s illegal to do anything other than show them pictures in a book about how to drive those sexual vehicles.
And we know from the example above that the electrician by trade who thought it would be a good idea to take his 12 year old kid into his shop on a saturday and correct some of the shit he was taught wrong was soundly punished for it… I can to this day remember being 5 years old and picking up a pair of side cutters and grabbing a bit of electrical wire (monkey see, monkey do) like daddy, only to have a very in you face daddy asking me what the fuck you think you are doing boy?
The lesson of the day was me saying it was OK, and him saying how do you know boy, and me saying I just did, and him teaching me the lesson, you do not know what is in a wire, the only way you can ever know what is in a wire is if you can see ALL of the wire AND both ends of the wire and all of it is loose and not tied to anything or attached to anything or connected to anything or near anything, so same as look left, look right, look left, look right and if the road is still clear you can cross, it was look at the wire before you touch it, every time he brought home a piece of wire for me to play with with my side cutters and so on.
It took about 3 more years before some of that lesson made sense, I could see both ends of a wire that was inductively coupled with another wire, but I could not see that all of the wire was free and loose, hello high tension magneto.
BTW the electrician, surprised him as much as it surprised me to learn it was illegal (child endangerment apparently) to give his kid practical lessons in his trade as electrician, after all, the kid had a PC and an arduino… so he basically confessed to his guilt and sealed his own conviction upon first questioning by the po-po.
All of which brings us neatly to the “how the fuck can you think like that?” and it doesn’t really matter what the subject is, trump is god, hitlary is god, brexit, bremain, the subject doesn’t matter, what matters is thought processes that appear alien.
Thought processes that appear alien aren’t a problem, though processes that appear alien within brains within bodies that carry power and authority over you are a big problem.
The electrician is not a free man, he is property with no rights and no freedoms, and the same goes for his 12 year old kid, whoever reported him might thing they “won” that round, but they didn’t, they are property with no rights and freedoms too.
Me not being able to teach a 12 year old practical lessons about sex or driving or firearms may be seen as a good thing by many / most / all, and indeed it it BE a good thing, but that is not the point, the point is neither I nor the 12 year old are free to make our own choices.
If either I or the 12 year old make choices that do not adhere to the rules, then we are told it is for our own good, or our judgement is subject to outside influence, or our judgement is corrupt, or our judgement is just plain wrong, either way the one thing I and the 12 year old have in common is that our judgement is not relevant, our choices are not worth anything, we are both property with neither rights nor freedoms.
The “how the fuck can you think like that” people don’t have any rights or freedoms either, they just seem to like it that way, so I guess the thinking is a rationalization of that.
Thankfully for the safety of the state I’m not allowed any where near my own boys, so I can’t be teaching the little shits anything about how to drive or how to wire mains electricity or anything else, but I had a contact this week from someone who wanted some help with their kid, I don’t actually know the age of the kid but I’m guessing about 12, and the parental units are those “how the fuck can you think like that types”
So long and short is they actually like about 5 streets down from a relative so it was no big deal for me to pop by one evening after school and have a chat, wherupon I’m invited up to the kids bedroom (fnaar fnaar) and what I see there fills me with horror.
The kid has a home built open frame arduino cnc thing with a dvd style 600 mW laser diode for burning paper and wood and shit, and an old not working properly k40 style co2 laser which are sold as being 40 watts jobs but are at best 20 watts when new and fresh.
So we have a Class 4 blinding by frying the back of the eye near visible light diode laser rated around 0.6 watts, and a k40 with no interlocks and bits missing from the housing, a pond pump in a bucket of water and probably fatal 50% of the time you touch it 22 kV DC power supply and Class 4 blinding by frying the lens and cornea IR light laser, in this fucking kids bedroom.
2 sets of safety goggles, none.
safety procedures for 22 kV DC, none.
Oh yes, the 6 gang extension lead powering everything is squeezed between said bucket of water and the wall.
the millennial (eg no proper schooling so know sweet fuck all of maths / physics / chemistry etc) parental units are mainly worried that junior doesn’t burn the house down or get seized by the feds for some DMCA / copyright violation in case he makes a ferrari in his bedroom.
I’m in a real quandary here, one the one hand what the kid needs is a whack upside the head and some basic safety lessons, then go experiment and learn but do so safely.
On the other hand he is a kid born to millennial asshole parents, I should be telling them to turn off the mains at the breaker, and take everything in his bedroom and throw it in the bin, before even considering turning the mains to the house back on again.
On the other hand I was asked / contacted in the first place because I am a professional, and this can come back to haunt me many ways.
I ruminate on the fact that all of us are property and slaves with no freedom and no choices… and the sooner the kid learns that the better.
I tell the kid he is doing seriously illegal and dangerous shit, unless he wants the feds to ruin his life he better start getting clue #1 about laser safety and working with EHT and so on, and not ever tell any of his mates at school about mr fusion in the bedroom.
I tell the parents the kid is doing seriously illegal and dangerous shit, unless they want the feds to ruin their lives and declare them unfit parents next time they try to buy some big ass fries their kid better start getting clue #1 about laser safety and working with EHT, and do not tell and of their mates about their kid having mr fusion in his bedroom.
I also privately told the kid he has a choice, he can give it all up and be mr dumb, or he can carry on and learn, but if he wants to learn he will have to be self taught because noone else will, and what he needs to learn first and foremost is laser safety and working with EHT voltages, and they are actually pretty interesting subjects in their own right, so get your ass down to the public library and get all the technical books you can.
Teaching the kid myself would be illegal.
Just because I know I am an owned slave with no rights doesn’t mean I have any obligation to perpetuating the system.
Speaking as someone who learned many things, including how to drive on the roads at 12, (and by the way the reason I did not get practical sex lessons at 12 was because I did not ask or consent to any, so fuck you with your straw man argument that any law protected me there…) I have to say that I am eternally grateful that at the time and place of my childhood, the boot of slavery and oppression was much less weighty than it is today.
And by the way, in my day we never had the insane levels of exposure to poisoned chalice temptation that kids do today.
I learned to drive at 12 around about the time the computer chip first came out, “Pong” was years away in the future, now kids race around in GTAV and everything else immune to everything including physics and consequences, but games which are none the less in many ways simulators, and they finally get their hands on some keys at 16 or 17 and they learn to pass their test, but never to drive or control the vehicle.
And yes, the exact same thing is true of sex, 11 year old with unlimited access to pornhub and sexting each other are not protected any by it being illegal for them to fuck and doubly illegal for anyone over 16 to teach them to fuck.
Rules are imposed on slaves to keep them in line, not because those rules are for their wellbeing.
Getting VD in military service back in the day was treated as damaging state property, the serviceman and his ability to fight, fuck you and your personal suffering, you lost efficacy as a tool, as property, and the one who infected you was not punished.
“How the fuck can you think like that” is just another tool to increase the effective authority of other slaves who impose rules on still other slaves, nobody ever questions the rules.
Name me one country where anyone of any age can make any choices about their own life and what they do, and are free to suffer any and all the consequences of those choices, both good and bad as they may be.
Spare me the capitalist slave mentality that welfare is an example of this evil, while studiously ignoring taxation imposed by force as the other side of the same blade.
Up country three white kids burned to death in their own home due to some sort of gang turf war, why do they matter more than thalidomide kids, or ritalin kids, or deadbeat absent dad and single skank ho mommy kids, or sexting pornhub kids, or kids destined to a life of servitude as drones, or kids barred from education sufficient to play with lasers in their bedrooms.
How can I honestly mourn for the lost innocence of slave children? By definition they were property from birth, they had no innocence, born in chains, died in chains, never knowing freedom.. I can mourn that, and then someone comes along and says to me, how the fuck can you think like that.