Next to a picture of wreckage from MH17 we find this paragrpah;
“A metal fragment from the crash site of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 matches a surface-to-air BUK rocket, a Dutch broadcaster said on Thursday, supporting a theory that the plane was downed by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine.”
And then the slam-dunk, bring it home to me, Johny, evidence itself;
“The fragment was recovered by a Dutch journalist from the village of Hrabove several months ago near to where the plane was brought down last July, killing all 298 passengers and crew.”
You would expect several fragments, deeply lodged into the wreckage itself, but no, a piece found ‘near‘ the wreckage will suffice to bring true justice to… erhhhmmm… I dunno…
Hard to pick the percentages for and against. Looking at comments in the guardian from commenters I know are Australian, perhaps more than half believe there is a cover up. Those that read and comment in independent media, close to 100% believe there is a cover up.
Unfortunately, almost all the of the Australians that I’ve spoken to about Ukraine, which is many because I live in Australia, have swallowed the MSM version of events hook, line, sinker and fishing rod. Although most Australians that I speak to are not very open minded, even the more open minded individuals I have spoken to about the Ukraine war, see Russia and Putin as the devil, Kiev government as a victim and the US and allies as the hero. They completely believe that MH17 was shot down with BUK by separatists or Russian army, or just any Russian will do and they completely believe that Russian army is roaming around Ukraine with a stone age force of men and equipment, barely able to win any battles because they are all walking around drunk, having a party. They believe everything they are told to believe and everything they want to believe, but very few of them believe any factual evidence that goes against what the MSM tells them. Even a few of the smarter Australians I know, have had arguments with me over it and used total fabrication and lies straight from the headlines of FOX news, etc. as their proof that Russia is bad and the US and the allies are good.
And “several months ago” .Yet we hear of it now,sounds fishy.As I’ve said before,it’s very doubtful we will ever have the full truth.The Western reports will blame the NAF,Russia,or both.No matter what evidence disproves that.At the end the report will be inconclusive,but strongly “suggest” Novorossian and Russian “guilt”.That’s just the way it is. The “blame Russia” propaganda advantage trumps any pretense to provide justice.Russia of course will reject the findings and ask “where is the proof”.But that will do little good.The MSM has poisoned the well already.Those people supporting the West will support the report.Those supporting Russia (and those looking for truth) will join Russia in rejecting the report.
If JFK and 9/11 are anything to go by, we’re in for the long haul [aka eternity].
I like your analogy of ‘poisoning the well,’ because, although outdated,it paints a perfect picture of MSM’s cancerous mindset and the tragic consequences the concentration of more and more MSM outlets into less and less hands has on mankind as a whole [as has been mentioned and discussed by other forum members elsewhere on this site].
As you and I, and many others (probably most) on here come from the “5 eyes” countries.I hate to say it,but we are a lost cause for the foreseeable future. The rest of the world will wake up much sooner than the majority in our countries.Certainly there are more and more people that are starting to understand the truth in our countries.But the regimes in power in our lands,and their MSM hirelings still have our peoples hoodwinked.I remember a line from a movie I saw once that fits us.It was about a country controlled by a dictatorship,”the devil has the people by the throat here” the line goes.
There were reports of a witness to a BUK flare back in December and again recently. The very idea that such witnesses could be taken seriously is an insult. This is another example.
In fact I’d even take the BBC witness report of a fighter following MH17 as having zero value – a week after the downing but more importantly days after the Russian explnation of a fighter – the witness reporting something they knew someone wanted to hear.
That is not to say a Dutch report would be meaningless – that is early evidence reported with a long delay. Though i don’t hold out much hope for that. If they were going to straight out lie, they could have done that months ago.
The “cancerous” mindset is merely the belief that the US State Dept. is a reliable source, despite all experience to the contrary the press has had.
If they stop publishing US State Dept.’s morning press releases, all their rivals will have exciting headlines and they will not. Their rivals will be able to tart up their “news reports” with quotes from “highly placed government officials” and they will not. Their rivals will publish Op-Eds written by famous names and they will not.
To say nothing of their advertising increasingly reliant on want ads and the entertainment section.
And this journalist took it home and used it as an ashtray rather than turning it over to investigators or making it public (a journalist?) until now?
I see. No, wait, I don’t see.
Also I can’t figure out what “fragment . . . matches a surface-to-air BUK” means.
Nor do I understand how this supports the theory that the plane was shot down by separatists. Why does it not support equally the theory that the plane was shot down by UAF? Or one of the 37 Russian invasion forces? If — and I don’t accept expert evidence from news presenters as expert evidence — but IF there is technical support for the theory that the fragment was damaged by a BUK strike, it does not support anything except the theory that the plane was struck by a BUK. It has no evidentiary value relating to who fired that BUK.
Q: Also I can’t figure out what “fragment . . . matches a surface-to-air BUK” means. Nor do I understand how this supports the theory that the plane was shot down by separatists. Why does it not support equally the theory that the plane was shot down by UAF?
R: You want evidence and proof… from people who can fly a passport through a building, in an airplane, and have it come out on the other side… without a scratch?
Compare this to TWA 800; every last bit of the wreckage was pulled from the ocean bed and, as a gigantic jigsaw puzzle, reassembled in a giant hangar.
But WTC7 and its collapse will always be FEMA’s Achilles Heel.
“We decided to pull it…” Silverstein [later claiming to have meant firefighters] as if you toss a few sticks of dynamite into a building and be done with it.
It takes weeks to properly prepare a building to let it fall into its own footprint and the placing and detonating of explosive a true art.
But 14 years have passed since that horrible day and we are none the wiser [aka closer to the real truth].
The latest in bombs bringing down the buildings are that 30 tons of aluminum which melted and on contact with water exploded. It is true that liquid aluminum does explode with more force than TNT. But this is from a plane travelling at 500mph rams a building and would the pieces stay around to melt? or would the pieces just scatter all over the place into small pieces? The video does show liquid metal dripping down the sides of the building. But I would think that little bit would explode and scatter all the rest. Now if set up this could happen but I don’t see how it could from what happened. Also they said the fire proofing got stripped off. Naked steel would become weak at high temp. Again, I cant see how something painted on could just drop off like that. Now a single instance of it happening is possible but 2? The coincidences are too striking. Anyway you look at things, something fishy went on. A single instance is coincidence and is possible but twice takes talent. And triple with a brick building? Now there can be no coincidences.
Watching the buildings collapsing on video, the collapse started at the floors that the planes hit?
The planes hit the floors were explosives were laid?
Multi story building demolition generally requires computer timed detonations?
Lot of unanswered questions here.
For many technical reasons already presented, no BUK from anywhere was involved.
Within days at most, forensic analysis of chemical traces, metallic traces and holes in the wreckage plus autopsies proved what caused MH17 to break up, assuming the cause wasn’t already known.
Everything now is just obfuscation, delay and cover-up.
In a criminal investigation, this is known as “planted evidence”, brought to attention long after the fact. The similarity with the Israeli scams about Syrian CW usage is an example of these limited intellect herd mentality scum reusing the same propaganda scheme repeatedly. A further example that the best zionazis can get are those bum bandits who are simply incapable of creative thought beyond the most minimal of the human intellect potential. Their dominance of the “west” is not through “brilliant thinking”, that is a perverted joke, but through total dominance of the information medium and the political zeitgeist. IE: the sod who screams the loudest and prevents those who actually have relevant views and material from getting a hearing.
Gilad Atzmon explains the same M.O. [in The Saker’s interview with him].
Scare people into being afraid to open their mouths. Destroy their names, their reputations, destroy them themselves if you have to, but always have everyone walking on eggshells and right into a mindfield minefield.
South Front: sorry, I love your product and my criticisms are in the spirit of helpfulness : Per the last sentence: In correct English It is either ” “has come” or “came” …not “has came”
Teranam 13, I’m sorry. I know you belong to a very important study group, but I just can’t resist….
If you have such beneficial instructions for South Front…please by all means (and any) join them.
If you joined them, you could eventually work your way up to the ‘change department’ and we would then all get a better grip on the topics covered by South Front.
South Front: Per the last sentence. In correct English it is either “has come” or “came” but not “has came”….My intention in these comments is not to nit pick but to aid you in achieving standards of excellence. I look forward to your productions and am a long time fan.
I think the ‘voice’ does an excellent job in mastering English – surely we can overlook the grammatical errors and focus on content.
Sadly so many people in Oz would not even hear the error. Aussie schools ditched teaching grammar a few years and now we have glaring errors in every aspect of main stream communication — my pet peeves are :
‘I seen it’ (I saw it)
‘they come over to my house’ (they came over to my house)
‘he done it’ (he did it)
Re MH17 .. all quite in MSM here. Hideous amounts of Putin bashing though.
There will be mass media hysteria though on the MH17 anniversary.
All our media are concerned about is getting Indonesia to change their laws so that the two Aussie boys from the ‘Bali 9 drug mules’ won’t get executed…
Then in the next breath a scathing story about our footballers getting caught with heroin or other drugs.
Go figure.
‘Shirt front’ Abbott keeps putting his foot in his mouth with sexist, racist comments which fill the pages.
Russian Submarine Activity Surges 50% Since 2014, Admiral Claims “Not Saber-Rattling”
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/19/2015 – 15:35
With US forces moving into Poland, Russian “rapid-response” drills underway, and navy exercises in the Baltic Sea, the idea of “saber-rattling” now seems obvious. However, as NATO closes in on its borders, the Russian Navy’s commander, Admiral Chirkov, stated that the intensity of Russian submarines’ combat patrol missions has been up 50% since the beginning of 2014. As the nation celebrates “Submariner Day”, Chirkov explained, “we do not indulge in saber rattling… this is necessary and natural for guaranteed security of the state.”
A new voice, but accented, so it works. Thought, sadly, he doesn’t drip with sarcasm as the original voice does.
It’s okay. We can only hope our guy comes back.
As for the above grammatical criticism, Teranam 13, the mistakes in English usage are acceptable, because this just makes the comedic intent, the sarcasm, work.
In this instance the criticism is warranted. If you notice, the voice-over guy uses the same poor grammar in the first sentence as well. Clearly an habitual mistake that needs correcting. And if my opinion matters at all, I find the new voice much easier to understand than the other fine chap.
I keep an eye on the EUobserver https://euobserver.com/foreign/128037. The EU mob have certainly lost the plot.
The movie title “The Gods must be crazy” seems to fit.
They want to implement new sanctions no matter what happens to the Minsk agreement and even if it is not unanimously agreed on.
They want an energy union as Gazprom is a monopoly, and also to break the reliance on Russian gas, yet they rely on and by Russian gas because it is the cheapest supply.
With all due respect, they most certainly have not lost the plot. In fact, these are all just efforts to “grease the skids” for a new Qatari pipeline, built through Syria once Assad has been toppled and/or killed.
No, they are indeed following the script very closely.
You are right about the skids being greased.
There was also another article in EUobserver about the EU energy union, new laws, making Russia abide by EU energy laws that they will bring in, ect.
I suspect the object is to get Russian gas price up to the price of shipped US or Qatar gas with Euro or US companies making a big profit. Doing this then makes US gas competitive, and Europe less reliant on Russian gas. Bad for the average European but good for the few at the top.
The Qatar pipeline seems very much in doubt at the moment.
Looks like Turkey have refused Kiev’s request to have LNG tankers cross the Bosphorous to their Junta LNG terminal they want to build. That puts a spoke in the US/Kiev/EU energy plans…..
CONgress tactics are in accordance with jack lew’s recent rant about “we are being attacked & our franchise is being undermined…”
Sure sure. As Tonto was famous for saying “Who’s WE, kemosabe?”
It comes amid prickly trade negotiations between Brussels and Washington, and at a time when EU and Asian governments are frustrated that the U.S. Congress has held up a reform of voting rights in the International Monetary Fund due to give China and other emerging powers more say in global economic governance.
German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble made the announcement at a joint news conference with visiting Chinese Vice Premier Ma Kai, at which no questions were allowed. He said Germany, Europe’s biggest economy and a major trade partner of Beijing, would be a founding member of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.
This evidence means nothing. The journalist is, according to dutch Wiki:
“Op 12 augustus 2008 raakte hij gewond aan zijn been tijdens een Russisch bombardement in de Georgische stad Gori. Cameraman Stan Storimans kwam hierbij om het leven. Akkermans heeft, samen met de weduwe van Storimans en de Georgische nabestaanden van de aanval op Gori, Rusland aangeklaagd bij het Hof van de Mensenrechten in Straatsburg.” http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeroen_Akkermans
This translates to something like this: in 2008 he was wounded during a bombardment in the Georgian town Gori, where Cameraman Storimans lost his life. Akkermans, together with others, is sueing Russia at the Court of Human Rights in Strassbourg.
This evidence means nothing. The journalist is, according to dutch Wiki:
“Op 12 augustus 2008 raakte hij gewond aan zijn been tijdens een Russisch bombardement in de Georgische stad Gori. Cameraman Stan Storimans kwam hierbij om het leven. Akkermans heeft, samen met de weduwe van Storimans en de Georgische nabestaanden van de aanval op Gori, Rusland aangeklaagd bij het Hof van de Mensenrechten in Straatsburg.” http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeroen_Akkermans
This translates to something like this: in 2008 he was wounded during a bombardment in the Georgian town Gori, where Cameraman Storimans lost his life. Akkermans, together with others, is sueing Russia at the Court of Human Rights in Strassbourg.
Unfortunately, the sod survived. I’ve no sympathy for the quislings of the Jewish owned/run zionazi media any more. Let them meet their mentor, Goebbels, in person.
That is wrong attitude,.вот так. Not helpful lat all. Being war correspondent is not an easy job. Wishing death on them is just plain wrong. NOT being embedded with the army is IMO a GOOD pointer to possible neutrality.
He is not anti-Russia. The court case is an attempt to get some compensation, specifically for the cameraman’s widow.
Akkermans did the ONLY proper documentation of the MH17 debris, spending days on it, in fact discovering some of the debris locations (in forest), when others were taking 3 snaps, grabbing a sound bite and moving on. He has returned a number of times for further even more detailed work there.
Akkermans work is the ONLY way we can know what really happened.
The few unlocated vague other shots by others would make it impossible to work out even the order of the break-up, He took distance shots, then closer, then closeups, to put every piece in context. He did closeups of part numbers, so people who know the system can 100% identify the part. He didn’t go for the one large symbolic part; he did all the tiny pieces hidden in grass, too…. like the one that is PROOF the left engine was struck by shrapnel.
He has done a number of interviews with Donbass people involved with the aftermath. The interviews were neutral in tone, no demonising of the locals. In fact if anything, they were critical of the official investigation…. including how they were ignoring local witness input.
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I have no doubt he souvenired a few scraps. I do doubt he did so with the intention of proving a BUK strike; he’s smart enough to know a piece with no provenance is not enough evidence.
No, the left wing is proof that it was attacked by an airplane. The other evidence of the photos Akkermans collected also show evidence of an airplane attack, not snaprel. Of course Akkermans collected data and photos, problem is, he can’t use 99% of the data, that all points towards gunshots and air to air missile, but rather after 9 months suddenly shows a piece never shown before pointing to a BUK: http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/133434.html
So, yes he collected data thinking that would nail the Russians, something definitely is after, but then 99% of the data did not fit his mantra. Then he comes with a piece never seen before. So, no not at all convincing, on the contrary.
You have ZERO reason to accuse him of any bias, based on his photo series. They are comprehensive and detailed attempts to DOCUMENT an event. That is what good journalists are meant to do. There was nothing anti-Russian in his photography work, nor in his interviews with the Donbass “rescue” workers.
He has made the entire collection publicly available., He is not picking and choosing to twist the evidence in any way.
Just NOW something comes up that is attributed to him…. which is denied by the official investigation. So, someone else came to the conclusion from it, NOT HIM.
I repeat without Akkermans work we would NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AT ALL and “they” could tell us any BS they want and nobody could argue about it. His conscientious recording of detail preserved the scene. That cannot be dismissed because of one little scrap he supposedly kept, which he’d know is worthless as evidence anyway….. and which he did NOT hand over as “evidence”. Someone unofficial is claiming it, not the real investigators.
you don’t read, not based on his photo work, but on his attempt to 1. go to court against Russia, 2. proof he takes out of his pocket (can’t be verified it was found at the site, because he didn’t mention it in is earlier work nor photo work), and 3. neglecting evidence pointing to an airplane. Especially the latter point is very important. That is the proof that nails him as being biased. And that case showing proof that can’t be verified is very very dubious.
Would he have been objective, he would have possibly shown this as ‘evidence’, but also pointing at evidence of the wing and shot holes at the cockpit, and then stating that we have contradicting evidence. He obviously doesn’t. Simply, it means he is NOT objective.
Bellingcat, another biased site, took the photo’s of Akkermans for their work, so you would probably argue that they are doing fine work, but when I pointed the site at evidence of the wing, they didn’t like it so they just deleted the comment from their site. That’s not objective journalism, neither is Akkerman’s work.
Reporter Jeroen Akkermans has evidence that a BUK missile has shot the MH17 from the air. “Everyone wonders who has pressed the button. The launch area was out of the rebel territory. The suspects are in Russia,” says Jeroen Akkermans.
Not biased? My arse. It doesn’t get much more obvious than that. Your boy was in Russia in 1991, Chechnya in 94. Now he was in Novorussia in 2014. In Novorussia he’s neither an independent journalist, nor a war correspondent. He is a propagandist with an obvious anti-Russian bent, or more accurately, a reinforce the ZPC/NWO propaganda bent.
His past, and that he was selected to “plant evidence” about MH17 for the Israeli-Americans, makes it fairly certain your boy is no journalist at all, but a western security service agent (probably CIA/Mossad) working as a journalist, providing propaganda and espionage services as required.
The use of foreign journalists by the CIA is well known, both to author propaganda as “news” and to provide all sorts of other espionage services – such as planting/finding supporting “evidence” for their false flag war crimes. The Israeli use of journalists, through their extensive sayanim networks and their dominance of western media, is also well known. Akkermans was probably acting as a CIA/Mossad agent while in Novorussia, providing information that was used by the Israeli-American nazis against Novorussians, that was used by these fascists and their Ukrainian stooges. For example, the recent assassination attempt on Givi probably made use of info garnered from espionage from both western journalists/agents and from recruits living in the region.
My question is why you, Kat Kan, went to bat so hard for this biased, anti-Russian propagandist, and probable CIA/Mossad agent. Why was covering for him so important to you? Rhetorical questions, BTW, since I’ve known the answers for quite some time now.
Akkermans is one of the more senior, somewhat independent journalist around Dutch state TV.
Like all people in these circles, he has a rather strong anti Russia bias, most of which, he might not even be aware of himself.
His twitter account shows his opinions about several news items and observations, and gives a picture where he stands. Easy to translate with Google or Yandex.
The court case is in effect a claim for damages. That does not prove enmity towards Russia, it just shows a desire for compensation for damage. The lack of objectivity here is in those of you who are using side issues like this in an attempt to discredit someone who has, I repeat, done ALL we have available to know what DID HAPPEN/ and did it meticulously at that.
Bringing in Bellingcat is further obfuscation.That is a known PAID disinformation site. The fact that they used the same publicly available photos does nothing to discredit the person who took those photos. Stop trying to use smear tactics, try to keep to something approaching FACTS.
1: we have a story from Dutch TV channel claiming they had a fragment analysed and that was from a specific type of BUK. That analysis is in itself suspect, not least because it claims two different specific BUKs in virtually the same breath. Another claims a bit or rusty metal they never touched looks like a deformed piece of shrapnel. So the “expert analyses” are the usual BS anyway.
2: one piece has a partial cyrillic part number, but no expert has shown any BUK part with an identical numbering on it; it could be off any Russian or Ukrainian made item..
3: one or all the fragments were supposedly from Akkermans. Guess what — a photographer who had another photographer with him, and they DID NOT PHOTOGRAPH THE SCRAPS before they picked them up. Well that really tells us the context, right?
4: Dutch investigators have NOT SEEN the parts, but they are going to be given to them.
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It is not clear Akkermans collected those pieces hoping to prove it was a BUK. He didn’t photograph them, and it was back in November. More likely along the lines of “Those idiot investigators didn’t even pick up these interesting bits”…. which would go well with them not picking up human bones (found by Graham Phillips, another photographer = eye for detail).
The “investigation” story is a beat-up, proves nothing, and he’d know it. But his bosses might have insisted on an investigation once they found out he had some scrap. The way it’s written they are really reaching, absolutely no factual analysis in it. . The desperation in it actually diminishes the case for a BUK.
The Dutch Safety Board (DSB) reacted to the reports, released earlier by RTL News that the flight MH17 was downed by Buk missile.
DSB reported that “The investigation into the cause of the accident is ongoing and is focusing on many more sources than just the pieces of shrapnel.”
“It is important that it be irrefutably demonstrated that there is a relationship between any material and the aeroplane that crashed,” DSB stressed.
It seems the DSB is less trusting of your boy, Akkermans, than you are. Bummer, eh? Apparently, they don’t want to blindly sign their names to falsehoods by zionazi media and the CIA/Mossad. I don’t blame them.
Just seen on RT that Kolomoisky has locked himself in the Kiev office of an oil company (Ukrop?) where his approved man was removed. He has his thugs with him…..here we go…..
US bribe money and Americanization in these countries is a “poison chalice” to their sovereignty.Once the elite classes in a society have been infected by “Westernization” and come to look down on their own as not “good enough”.Then the society becomes endangered.And only a massive effort can correct that.The Empire knows that Westernization/Americanization is their best weapon to create a 5th column.You can see that all over Europe and Latin America.
Neocon antics are coming non-stop now these past 2 months.
Two weeks ago the United States rammed through a seemingly meaningless resolution in the UN Security Council which basically said the legitimate government in Syria that Obama is determined to oust from office had better not drop barrel bombs filled with chlorine gas on their own people or Barack will start bombing the people of that country like he did when they made up lies about Gaddafi and started a “no fly zone” over there.
UN resolution 2209 Security. Council Condemns Use of Chlorine Gas as Weapon in Syria.
Venezuela abstained, China and Russia voted for it, on condition that any use of chemical weapons is thoroughly investigated to determine the culprit.
US believes it does not matter who uses them, the Assad regime is responsible.
I think Russia and China have made a mistake here as the US may use this as authority to put together another coalition of the killing to invade Syria.
Statements
Speaking after action, RAFAEL DARÍO RAMÍREZ CARREÑO (Venezuela) said he had abstained from the vote as it prejudged the result of the ongoing investigation by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) into the use of chlorine gas in the Syrian conflict. That investigation should first be concluded in order to determine the responsibility of various actors. Syria was a victim of armed groups that fuelled hatred, intolerance and violence. Those groups also had major military capacity. OPCW information on the removal of chemical weapons was evidence that Syria had complied with resolution 2118 (2013), he said, citing the need for peaceful conflict resolution among all parties, in line with Chapter VI of United Nations Charter. He fully supported the Secretary-General’s Special Envoy in efforts to achieve lasting peace among all sectors of Syrian society. Today’s resolution opened a dangerous path to the use of force, jeopardizing dialogue that had begun in Moscow and Cairo to end the conflict peacefully.
VITALY CHURKIN (Russian Federation) said he had voted in favour of the text. At the same time, his Government was guided by the principle of unacceptability of chemical weapons use. The OPCW fact-finding mission should conduct its work based on professionalism, impartiality and solid proof. There should be strict observance of the General Assembly resolution on cooperation between the United Nations and the OPCW, which stated that, in extreme cases, the OPCW Executive Council could communicate to the Assembly and the Security Council through established procedure. The Russian Federation would strictly base its position on the fact that only the guiding bodies of OPCW could determine violations of the chemical weapons ban, as outlined in the 14 September 2013 communiqué. He did not accept the possible use of sanctions under Chapter VII without attempts to confirm use of such chemicals.
WANG MIN (China) said his country resolutely opposed the use of chemical weapons and stressed the need to maintain the primacy of the OPCW in that regard. He hoped that all relevant parties would implement resolution 2209 (2015) fully and sincerely. Any further action must be addressed and agreed upon separately, he stressed.
SAMANTHA POWER (United States) said the resolution adopted today made it crystal clear that the use of chlorine weapons was no less evil than that of chemical weapons. The OPCW mission was not mandated to apportion culpability, she said, adding that some Council members sought to equate absence of culpability with exoneration. Only the regime of Bashar al-Assad had the capabilities to deploy and use chlorine weapons and must be held accountable for its violation of international law. http://www.un.org/press/en/2015/sc11810.doc.htm
I’m not so sure its a good idea not to be there.I see a possibility (small,but possible) that the West could spring a surprise resolution on Crimea (or something else) at the SC meeting.As the USSR learned to her sorrow if you aren’t there you can’t veto harmful resolutions.That was how the UN got involved in the Korean War.The USSR wasn’t at the meeting to veto that resolution,so it passed.Russia or China,one at least, should always attend every SC meeting.
The US will investigate using chlorine and determine that it was by whoever the US is against. The UN and EU will parrot it. Months later they will be proven wrong — by then too late. That’s the pattern.
TSKHINVAL, March 19. /TASS/. Georgia’s unconstructive stance at Geneva discussions on security and stability in Transcaucasia disrupted work on a statement on commitment to non-use of force, the head of the South Ossetian delegation Murat Dzhioyev told TASS on Thursday.
MOSCOW, March 19 /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin will visit Beijing in September to take part in the celebrations of Victory in World War Two, Kremlin Administration Chief Sergey Ivanov told journalists on Thursday. http://tass.ru/en/russia/783894
Basically the junta has no interest in peace and is pretty much challenging the freedom fighters to further war which they should take advantage of and finish off the scum once and for all instead of letting the remnants of the AngloZionist imperial lackeys to regroup and rearm once again before their next attack. The freedom fighters should take it as the last chance the junta’s had and blew once again and mercilessly continues pounding their way to Kiev and the rest of Ukraine driving the enemy towards the NATO borders , and if NATO lets the fleeing enemy in , then in hot pursuit keep rolling all the way to Atlantic. Enough is enough. You’ve been treating utter scum with undue respect. Just finish the degenerates off, do the world a favor.
Ukraine crisis: EU links Russia sanctions to truce deal
“”Our common intention is very clear – to maintain the sanctions until Minsk is fully implemented,” European Council President Donald Tusk said at a news conference.”
Translation: Sanctions against Russia will remain until Kiev stops shelling eastern Ukraine. In other words, never -or until the junta runs out of ammunition.
Stirring up trouble for Russia on her Southern borders.If the US can get Armenia and Azerbaijan fighting.Besides drawing Russia’s attention there.The Turks will take Azerbaijan’s side.And that could cause trouble with the planned pipeline.And Turkish relations with Russia.
Well here is something innovative. If you are weary about bombing your own, then well at least you can still make money for your supporters and bombs what you make. That way it still all stays in the family. The ultimate in inbreeding.. I wonder if the 2 bil includes the destroyed equipment or for just the bombs and the real cost is 10 bil including the equipment. If nothing else it gives Russia ideas on how to blow the stuff up easily.. Seems the ultimate armor is not so ultimate after all..
The Pentagon has issued a statement regarding it’s ongoing air war against ISIS today, reporting 2,320 airstrikes, and claiming the direct costs of the attacks so far were $1.83 billion.
The statement attempts to focus on big “successes” in the attack, including 73 tanks destroyed, many of them US-made M1A1 tanks, and 282 Humvees, all of them US-made.
Conspicuously absent in the war, however, is any meaningful territory gained in either Syria or Iraq, despite thousands of airstrikes. The Pentagon is rather trying to change the focus to just the stuff they blew up.
Very interesting article coming from a anti-Russian source.All but 1 of the 18 comments were pro-Russian or at least not pro-Ukrainian.
The group profiled in the article are certainly a terrorist group.They need to be rooted out totally.Not a single one should escape if the NAF can prevent it.
In Ferguson — a city with a population of 21,000 — 16,000 people have outstanding arrest warrants, meaning that they are currently actively wanted by the police.
It turns out that nearly everyone in the city is wanted for something. Even internal police department communications found the number of arrest warrants to be “staggering”. By December of 2014, “over 16,000 people had outstanding arrest warrants that had been issued by the court.” The report makes clear that this refers to individual people, rather than cases, so people with many cases are not being counted multiple times.
In 2013, 32,975 offenses had associated warrants, so that there were 1.5 offenses for every city resident.
Ferguson courts appear to work as an orchestrated racket to extract money from the poor. The thousands upon thousands of warrants that are issued, according to the DOJ, are “not to protect public safety but rather to facilitate fine collection.” Residents are routinely charged with minor administrative infractions. Most of the arrest warrants stem from traffic violations, but nearly every conceivable human behavior is criminalized. An offense can be found anywhere, including citations for “Manner of Walking in Roadway,” “High Grass and Weeds,” and 14 kinds of parking violation. After Henry Davis was brutally beaten by four Ferguson officers, he found himself charged with “destruction of official property” for bleeding on their uniforms.
There are 19,492 municipal governments in America, and the chances that Ferguson happens to be the worst are extremely slim.
One of the most interesting articles I’ve seen today was posted on Fort Russ.The article itself wasn’t a great surprise.But the back story about a person in the article is very important to see.Read what the article says on Vladimir Parasyuk,and I will connect the dots:
“Deputy Vladimir Parasyuk expressed the need to give more rights to the Western regions of Ukraine for active participation of these regions in the coup of 2014.
According to the Deputy Mikhail Kobtsev, Parasyuk demanded “to divide Ukraine… yelling about the need to give special privileges to Western Ukraine for active participation on the Maidan! I heard the rhetoric of 2004 about the separation of Western and Eastern Ukraine, but only in the opposite direction! What were dying for on the Maidan!?”
Vladimir Parasyuk was born in the village of Maidan (!), Lvov region, played active role in Maidan battle units, and later became a commander of the 4th regiment of “Dnepr” battalion. He was wounded and captured by DPR, and according to Boris Filatov was taken to Russia for questioning by GRU before his release.
Parasyuk is a member of the inter-faction group “Ukrop” (Ukrainian opposittion), which includes Dmitry Yarosh, Boris Filatov, Andre Biletsky and Boris Bereza (all notorious ultra-nationalists).
In the interview to “Ukrainian Pravda” Parasyuk announced:
“I was a member of the student fraternity in Lvov, received military training in good camps of various organizations, which taught the spirit of Ukrainianism. We were taught hand-to-hand combat, shooting with airguns, with the official permission were also taught to shoot with firearms at the shooting galleries. Also I was a member of the Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists, there was a battle unit. In the camps I learned the historical truth about the events in Ukraine, about the 1920’s, about the Holodomor in Ukraine.”
In an interview he also answered the question about the affiliation with any political parties and groups:
– And you are a member of the Right sector ?
– No. Now I am not a member of any one political party, in any organization.
In fact, the Right Sector is the umbrella organization for various Ukrainian ultra-nationalist organizations. Although the current Ukrainian parliament is full of ultra-nationalists, apparently to mislead the public many of them did not officially affiliate with the Right Sector or any other infamous ultra-nationalist groups.
So here is what we have now in Kiev: the Ukrainian parliament is full of people who ran around Maidan with Molotov cocktails, then marched to the East to bomb Donbass, and are now demanding more authority for their local government in Lvov, just as Donbass did a year ago.
Who is a separatist now?”
Many may not know about this Parasyuk.He was one of the main people behind the actual coup.Just before the coup he made an inflammatory speech in front of thousands of maidan rioters.Rejecting the agreement signed by Yanukovich ,he called on the mob to seize immediate power and to kill Yanukovich unless he fled at once.He had the leaders of the opposition on the stage with him.Telling them if they didn’t side with the mob they would be finished as well.You could see fear in their faces through the TV screen.His people carried a dead body through the crowd claiming he was killed by the police and calling for bloody vengeance on Yanukovich and Berkut.The crowd went insane with fury and the rest is history.
From this article we see that he had a background,not as a regular “peaceful Democratic protester” at maidan because of Yanukovich’s corruption.But as a fanatic neo-nazi from youth.A trained radical seizing the opportunity to take advantage of the situation to seize all Ukraine for West Ukrainians and fascism.He was the “spark” for the coup.His claiming he was captured fighting and then sent to Moscow.And then just released,is a joke.Had he been captured he’d still be there,or before a firing squad.Also important from the article ,we see that coup, was a power grab “by and for” West Ukrainians to take power in the whole nation for their region.It was a purer form of treason than I’ve seen in a long time.
Here is a great article on the junta.Everyone, I figure has heard of the claimed corruption of Yanukovich. So here is a report on the “democratic reformers” of the junta that replaced him.Or as I would say “lifestyles of the rich and fascist”:
Just lost an ex PM and true Statesman in Australia. Malcolm Fraser took power in Australia’s only CIA regime change operation. Interviews and articles he has written in the last few years had great vision for Australia.
Anti US in the last few years, since it come out that the sacking of Whitlam in 75 was a CIA/US regime change/coup operation.
On current Abbot PMs saying asking to be included in US current operations in Iraq, Fraser called it a total abrogation of sovereignty.
I doubt at the time he new about US machinations in the dismissal of Whitlam in Australia in 1975.
One more proof that the West lies about the Russian army invading Ukraine.Certainly there are Russian volunteers there.All or most of them are ex-military.From a country,that almost all men served at one time or the other in the military.So they have some military training already.But the two key words there are “volunteers” and “ex-military”.
US vassal US occupied country to join AIIB? Apart from being a US vassal and US occupied and old unresolved problems from WWII era, Japan is looking at joining the China led AIIB. Seems the US is the only country not joining?
PLA rescue ship helping the passengers on USS Titanic?
I do hope you are joking. Your previous comments all seemed normal, so what happened?
The claim in that story is that the crash never happened, that it was all set up for show. OK let us look at that
* how many people, trucks, cranes etc would be needed to do it
* how many days would it take them
* how come nobody has said they saw anything like that, or took any pictures? (we’re talking three villages with at least 24,000 residents between them).
Then he relies on such “expertise” as
* straight-line breaks had to be CUT, could not be caused by explosion (??what about something coming apart at the construction joins??)
* many parts show no signs of charring therefore were not in an explosion (?? explosive decompression has no fire)
Please do NOT bother looking for the same author’s “proof” that the dead bodies were all either fake or brought in from a morgue (and/or maybe from MH370).
Truly people, don’t we have enough political propaganda to fight against? must we keep PROMOTING this level of ignorant nonsense by posting it over and over?
I said I haven’t made up my mind and that the info is controversial. That part is certainly no joke.
The linked page is of course with a wink, but I would still like to see how these photos of that guy with a paint bucket came about.
As for the logistics, you can drop it off from a plane just as well. It would certainly be technically doable. I am NOT saying that it was done, just that it is theoretically possible.
In the end, I simply do not know. What I do know is that the official info sucks, from all sides.
I am though absolutely certain it was not a ground-based rocket of any kind. I served on a rocket launcher in the army that was equipped with russian weapon systems, including BUKs. The smoke trail is miles long and visible for at least half an hour.
Take a look at the headline picture on my WordPress site: http://www.donald7063.wordpress.com
This picture clearly indicates cannon fire from both the port and starboard side of MH17. No argument.
Sorry, it does not “clearly indicate” anything of the sort. It shows a lot of holes in a piece of aircraft skin that is known to be from the left hand side under the cockpit window.
The cockpit is about 6 – 7ft (2 metres) across from one side to the other. For any of the holes to be from the right side, those bullets must have gone through that distance in a straight line.
The shot-from-inside theory is based on the outward curling of some of the metal.
Have you ever seen old cracked PAINT PEELING? all with outward curling. Did anything shoot those walls to make the paint curl?
You can plainly see that cockpit section is made up of several layers. The shrapnel hits it at high speed and high HEAT. As the fragment pierces the metal, the heat HEATS UP (surprise!) the air between the layers, causing it to expand, causing the outer layer to curl outwards.
The shot-from-inside theory is based on the outward curling of some of the metal.
Have you ever seen old cracked PAINT PEELING? all with outward curling. Did anything shoot those walls to make the paint curl?
That is a very pathetic comparison, the sort one would expect from some Fox news guest “expert” – perhaps one of those ubiquitous retired pindo generals. :D
Are you serious? Thinking that weathered paint peeling has something to do with with damage on a shot down airliner? That’s thinking? The guy is spamming rubbish.
The Destruction of Libya, the Destabilization of a Nation. ~ US-NATO Crimes against Humanity
The late Col. Muammar Khadafy, hailed as the “Great Leader” by the Libyan people during his incumbency, was murdered by Chad, Somali and Sudanese mercenaries in collusion with NATO and US invading forces on October 19, 2011. Khadafy’s Libya, two years before he was ousted and assassinated was considered as one of Africa’s greatest nations. “In 1967, Colonel Gaddafi inherited one of the poorest nations in Africa; however, by the time he was assassinated, Gaddafi had turned Libya into Africa’s wealthiest nation. Libya had the highest GDP per capita and life expectancy on the African continent. Less people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.”
USA has been scheming for over four decades to topple Khadafy because he never allowed US and the First World countries allied by US and Britain to dictate on the Libyan oil policy program nor did he allow the IMF-WB to wreck havoc in the economy of the country by not subscribing to its capitalistic financing and loan programs. Likewise, socialist Libya under the leadership of Khadafy was a great supporter of the Non-Aligned Movement which detested foreign interventionism of superpowers in the affairs of the Third World countries.
He was a zealous supporter of Nelson Mandela’s ANC, the anti-apartheid, anti-racism socialist rebels in South Africa, while US and UK had been long supporters of Johannesburg apartheid regime—up until the time in the early 80’s when US/UK realized that the South African apartheid regime was already tottering apart, hence they belatedly withdraw support to the apartheid government.
“Under Gaddafi’s rule, Libyans enjoyed not only free health-care and free education, but also free electricity and interest-free loans. Now thanks to NATO’s intervention, the health-care sector is on the verge of collapse as thousands of Filipino health workers flee the country, institutions of higher education across the East of the country are shut down, and black outs are a common occurrence in once thriving Tripoli.”
“Even the United Nations Human Rights Council praised Gaddafi for his promotion of women’s rights. When the colonel seized power in 1969, few women went to university. Today, more than half of Libya’s university students are women. One of the first laws Gaddafi passed in 1970 was an equal pay for equal work law”.
In Libya, during Khadafy’s rule, all women share the same rights as men and in fact, women are even preferred to men when it comes to access of education to State Universities and priority access of work opportunities in Libyan government corporations and institutions. In 2007, women students in the University of Tripoli, University of Sirte and University of Cyrene bypassed the population of men students. In Libya, a woman can divorce her husband, demand for equal work-equal pay scheme with that of men, and husbands are given paternity leaves so that they can help their wives (likewise given maternity leaves) in taking care of their infant during the first three months after birth
Thanks to US interventionism, Libya from a progressive secularist and relatively economically well-off socialist country in North Africa has now become a putrid piece of cake to be cruelly subdivided by extremist terrorists, unruly tribes, armed bandits and undisciplined armed extremist sects—each militias of these armed sectors are presently wrecking havoc to the entire breadth and length of Libya, continuing their looting, raping, pillage and murder of civilians. Truth is, Western interventions have produced nothing but colossal failures in present Libya, Iraq, and Syria. Lest we forget, prior to western military involvement in these three nations, they were the most modern and secular states in the Middle East and North Africa—these three socialist and Islamic countries had fully subscribed to the recognition of women’s rights and they had relatively high standards of living in both Middle East and North African regions.
The so-called “Arab Spring” and the “US War on Terror” are all about US Hegemony, US/NATO Interventionism, Middle East-Central Asian Pipelines and the Military Industrial Complex from the start to finish, and this US interventionism is NEVER about democracy, NEVER about freedom nor for “just war”! These are all done for the selfish interest of US Hegemony! And at whose expense? It is always at the expense of the lives, limbs and properties of the oppressed and exploited peoples of the Middle East and the Third World!
The clumsy PR abilities of the RF indicates their world view. They cater to their regional sphere of influence or interests and don’t think they can penetrate the English-speaking world.
RT is garbage as voice of the RF. Laughable most of the time from their studio. Field reporters are fairly good, Ruptly video is good.
Without Saker, FortRuss and sometimes Russia-Insider, they would be invisible to the Western truth-seeker.
Everything of quality requires machine translation: Col Cassad has English, but much is still left for machines. Politikus.ru would be a terrific news and opinion source, but it has no intention by design of speaking to English-speakers, readers.
The truly bi-lingual voices tend toward factional ideologues, so you have Bazov, Sleboda, and the like are marginal bearers of information.
Thus, the media,the information sphere, is conceded to the megaphone of the Hegemon and fascists and is only challenged by the Vineyard, its commenters bringing information, FortRuss and R-I and the random articles or research or stout opinions of individuals from the Resistance.
MH17
Headline; Fragment from MH17 crash site supports missile theory: Dutch TV
Next to a picture of wreckage from MH17 we find this paragrpah;
“A metal fragment from the crash site of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 matches a surface-to-air BUK rocket, a Dutch broadcaster said on Thursday, supporting a theory that the plane was downed by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine.”
And then the slam-dunk, bring it home to me, Johny, evidence itself;
“The fragment was recovered by a Dutch journalist from the village of Hrabove several months ago near to where the plane was brought down last July, killing all 298 passengers and crew.”
You would expect several fragments, deeply lodged into the wreckage itself, but no, a piece found ‘near‘ the wreckage will suffice to bring true justice to… erhhhmmm… I dunno…
Also very noticeable, it was found by a journalist, not one of the investigators?
@ Peter,
Q; it was found by a journalist…
R: Yeah, that’s true too. What’s the mood in Australia about MH17’s controversy [given the fact you lost 28 fellow countrywo/men]?
@ Daniel
Hard to pick the percentages for and against. Looking at comments in the guardian from commenters I know are Australian, perhaps more than half believe there is a cover up. Those that read and comment in independent media, close to 100% believe there is a cover up.
Unfortunately, almost all the of the Australians that I’ve spoken to about Ukraine, which is many because I live in Australia, have swallowed the MSM version of events hook, line, sinker and fishing rod. Although most Australians that I speak to are not very open minded, even the more open minded individuals I have spoken to about the Ukraine war, see Russia and Putin as the devil, Kiev government as a victim and the US and allies as the hero. They completely believe that MH17 was shot down with BUK by separatists or Russian army, or just any Russian will do and they completely believe that Russian army is roaming around Ukraine with a stone age force of men and equipment, barely able to win any battles because they are all walking around drunk, having a party. They believe everything they are told to believe and everything they want to believe, but very few of them believe any factual evidence that goes against what the MSM tells them. Even a few of the smarter Australians I know, have had arguments with me over it and used total fabrication and lies straight from the headlines of FOX news, etc. as their proof that Russia is bad and the US and the allies are good.
And “several months ago” .Yet we hear of it now,sounds fishy.As I’ve said before,it’s very doubtful we will ever have the full truth.The Western reports will blame the NAF,Russia,or both.No matter what evidence disproves that.At the end the report will be inconclusive,but strongly “suggest” Novorossian and Russian “guilt”.That’s just the way it is. The “blame Russia” propaganda advantage trumps any pretense to provide justice.Russia of course will reject the findings and ask “where is the proof”.But that will do little good.The MSM has poisoned the well already.Those people supporting the West will support the report.Those supporting Russia (and those looking for truth) will join Russia in rejecting the report.
@ UNcle Bob,
If JFK and 9/11 are anything to go by, we’re in for the long haul [aka eternity].
I like your analogy of ‘poisoning the well,’ because, although outdated,it paints a perfect picture of MSM’s cancerous mindset and the tragic consequences the concentration of more and more MSM outlets into less and less hands has on mankind as a whole [as has been mentioned and discussed by other forum members elsewhere on this site].
As you and I, and many others (probably most) on here come from the “5 eyes” countries.I hate to say it,but we are a lost cause for the foreseeable future. The rest of the world will wake up much sooner than the majority in our countries.Certainly there are more and more people that are starting to understand the truth in our countries.But the regimes in power in our lands,and their MSM hirelings still have our peoples hoodwinked.I remember a line from a movie I saw once that fits us.It was about a country controlled by a dictatorship,”the devil has the people by the throat here” the line goes.
tyes, we’re so protected from the rest of the world by the two oceans.
Late evidence means nothing.
There were reports of a witness to a BUK flare back in December and again recently. The very idea that such witnesses could be taken seriously is an insult. This is another example.
In fact I’d even take the BBC witness report of a fighter following MH17 as having zero value – a week after the downing but more importantly days after the Russian explnation of a fighter – the witness reporting something they knew someone wanted to hear.
That is not to say a Dutch report would be meaningless – that is early evidence reported with a long delay. Though i don’t hold out much hope for that. If they were going to straight out lie, they could have done that months ago.
The Dutch govt just denied the information.
@ Micheal D.,
Q; Late evidence means nothing.
R: I thought the Kiev provided info about MH17,with a time stamp 1 day early, quite significant.
The “cancerous” mindset is merely the belief that the US State Dept. is a reliable source, despite all experience to the contrary the press has had.
If they stop publishing US State Dept.’s morning press releases, all their rivals will have exciting headlines and they will not. Their rivals will be able to tart up their “news reports” with quotes from “highly placed government officials” and they will not. Their rivals will publish Op-Eds written by famous names and they will not.
To say nothing of their advertising increasingly reliant on want ads and the entertainment section.
And this journalist took it home and used it as an ashtray rather than turning it over to investigators or making it public (a journalist?) until now?
I see. No, wait, I don’t see.
Also I can’t figure out what “fragment . . . matches a surface-to-air BUK” means.
Nor do I understand how this supports the theory that the plane was shot down by separatists. Why does it not support equally the theory that the plane was shot down by UAF? Or one of the 37 Russian invasion forces? If — and I don’t accept expert evidence from news presenters as expert evidence — but IF there is technical support for the theory that the fragment was damaged by a BUK strike, it does not support anything except the theory that the plane was struck by a BUK. It has no evidentiary value relating to who fired that BUK.
@ Cassandra,
Q: Also I can’t figure out what “fragment . . . matches a surface-to-air BUK” means. Nor do I understand how this supports the theory that the plane was shot down by separatists. Why does it not support equally the theory that the plane was shot down by UAF?
R: You want evidence and proof… from people who can fly a passport through a building, in an airplane, and have it come out on the other side… without a scratch?
Oh, good to see some truthers. I have a question for you guys. Here’s the scenario:
NAF withdraw from position in Donetsk airport.
UAF, shoelaces flapping, crowd in and break out the vodka.
Walls collapse.
NAF withdraw from position in Donetsk airport.
UAF, shoelaces trailing, crowd in and break out the blow.
Walls collapse.
Is anybody getting suspicious yet?
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Or have a [WTC7 47] story building that was NOT hit by a passenger jet fall back into its own footprint. [Vineyard Moderator-DC]
@ Peter, mmiriww, Vineyard Moderator-DC,
Let’s look at it from a legal pov; ‘Ground Zero’ was 1 BIG crime scene. Tampering with crime scenes is punishable by law.
WTC Steel beams – shipped to China
More WTC Debris – shipped to China and India for ‘recycling’
Compare this to TWA 800; every last bit of the wreckage was pulled from the ocean bed and, as a gigantic jigsaw puzzle, reassembled in a giant hangar.
But WTC7 and its collapse will always be FEMA’s Achilles Heel.
“We decided to pull it…” Silverstein [later claiming to have meant firefighters] as if you toss a few sticks of dynamite into a building and be done with it.
It takes weeks to properly prepare a building to let it fall into its own footprint and the placing and detonating of explosive a true art.
But 14 years have passed since that horrible day and we are none the wiser [aka closer to the real truth].
dear Moderator : Have you read Judy Wood’s book on “Where Did the Towers Go? Its fabulous.
The latest in bombs bringing down the buildings are that 30 tons of aluminum which melted and on contact with water exploded. It is true that liquid aluminum does explode with more force than TNT. But this is from a plane travelling at 500mph rams a building and would the pieces stay around to melt? or would the pieces just scatter all over the place into small pieces? The video does show liquid metal dripping down the sides of the building. But I would think that little bit would explode and scatter all the rest. Now if set up this could happen but I don’t see how it could from what happened. Also they said the fire proofing got stripped off. Naked steel would become weak at high temp. Again, I cant see how something painted on could just drop off like that. Now a single instance of it happening is possible but 2? The coincidences are too striking. Anyway you look at things, something fishy went on. A single instance is coincidence and is possible but twice takes talent. And triple with a brick building? Now there can be no coincidences.
Watching the buildings collapsing on video, the collapse started at the floors that the planes hit?
The planes hit the floors were explosives were laid?
Multi story building demolition generally requires computer timed detonations?
Lot of unanswered questions here.
the buildings became a fountain of dust…going up….Read Judy Wood’s book, It covers so much.
For many technical reasons already presented, no BUK from anywhere was involved.
Within days at most, forensic analysis of chemical traces, metallic traces and holes in the wreckage plus autopsies proved what caused MH17 to break up, assuming the cause wasn’t already known.
Everything now is just obfuscation, delay and cover-up.
In a criminal investigation, this is known as “planted evidence”, brought to attention long after the fact. The similarity with the Israeli scams about Syrian CW usage is an example of these limited intellect herd mentality scum reusing the same propaganda scheme repeatedly. A further example that the best zionazis can get are those bum bandits who are simply incapable of creative thought beyond the most minimal of the human intellect potential. Their dominance of the “west” is not through “brilliant thinking”, that is a perverted joke, but through total dominance of the information medium and the political zeitgeist. IE: the sod who screams the loudest and prevents those who actually have relevant views and material from getting a hearing.
@ BOT TAK,
Gilad Atzmon explains the same M.O. [in The Saker’s interview with him].
Scare people into being afraid to open their mouths. Destroy their names, their reputations, destroy them themselves if you have to, but always have everyone walking on eggshells and right into a
mindfieldminefield.Too bad they lost their mojo, eh?
South Front: sorry, I love your product and my criticisms are in the spirit of helpfulness : Per the last sentence: In correct English It is either ” “has come” or “came” …not “has came”
Teranam 13, I’m sorry. I know you belong to a very important study group, but I just can’t resist….
If you have such beneficial instructions for South Front…please by all means (and any) join them.
If you joined them, you could eventually work your way up to the ‘change department’ and we would then all get a better grip on the topics covered by South Front.
Grammatically speaking I mean.
South Front: Per the last sentence. In correct English it is either “has come” or “came” but not “has came”….My intention in these comments is not to nit pick but to aid you in achieving standards of excellence. I look forward to your productions and am a long time fan.
@ teranam13,
Q; My intention in these comments is not to nit pick but to aid you in achieving standards of excellence.
R: Exactly. These are real cases of positive criticism.
I’m with you on this one.
@ teranam 13
@ Daniel Rich
I think the ‘voice’ does an excellent job in mastering English – surely we can overlook the grammatical errors and focus on content.
Sadly so many people in Oz would not even hear the error. Aussie schools ditched teaching grammar a few years and now we have glaring errors in every aspect of main stream communication — my pet peeves are :
‘I seen it’ (I saw it)
‘they come over to my house’ (they came over to my house)
‘he done it’ (he did it)
Re MH17 .. all quite in MSM here. Hideous amounts of Putin bashing though.
@ Babushka in Oz
The funniest gem I ever read was ‘a non-prophet organization’ :o)
Is nobody interested [in Australia] as to whom murdered your fellow countrywo/men?
No, the funniest by far is how he says ” focus”.
have not heard it lately, though.
Pls, don’t correct that one!
@ Daniel Rich
Nup… ‘he done it’ (Putin) – end of story!
There will be mass media hysteria though on the MH17 anniversary.
All our media are concerned about is getting Indonesia to change their laws so that the two Aussie boys from the ‘Bali 9 drug mules’ won’t get executed…
Then in the next breath a scathing story about our footballers getting caught with heroin or other drugs.
Go figure.
‘Shirt front’ Abbott keeps putting his foot in his mouth with sexist, racist comments which fill the pages.
@ Babushka in Oz,
Peter mentioned Murdoch as the architect who runs his fiefdom via his MSM imperium. Any alternatives to it out there?.
and ‘he did good’.
Russian Submarine Activity Surges 50% Since 2014, Admiral Claims “Not Saber-Rattling”
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/19/2015 – 15:35
With US forces moving into Poland, Russian “rapid-response” drills underway, and navy exercises in the Baltic Sea, the idea of “saber-rattling” now seems obvious. However, as NATO closes in on its borders, the Russian Navy’s commander, Admiral Chirkov, stated that the intensity of Russian submarines’ combat patrol missions has been up 50% since the beginning of 2014. As the nation celebrates “Submariner Day”, Chirkov explained, “we do not indulge in saber rattling… this is necessary and natural for guaranteed security of the state.”
A new voice, but accented, so it works. Thought, sadly, he doesn’t drip with sarcasm as the original voice does.
It’s okay. We can only hope our guy comes back.
As for the above grammatical criticism, Teranam 13, the mistakes in English usage are acceptable, because this just makes the comedic intent, the sarcasm, work.
In this instance the criticism is warranted. If you notice, the voice-over guy uses the same poor grammar in the first sentence as well. Clearly an habitual mistake that needs correcting. And if my opinion matters at all, I find the new voice much easier to understand than the other fine chap.
I enjoyed the original Russian guy with the heavy accent and deeply-felt sarcasm, the one everyone objected to.
I have the impression it’s the same voice, just a bit more rehearsal/ coaching.
I keep an eye on the EUobserver https://euobserver.com/foreign/128037. The EU mob have certainly lost the plot.
The movie title “The Gods must be crazy” seems to fit.
They want to implement new sanctions no matter what happens to the Minsk agreement and even if it is not unanimously agreed on.
They want an energy union as Gazprom is a monopoly, and also to break the reliance on Russian gas, yet they rely on and by Russian gas because it is the cheapest supply.
With all due respect, they most certainly have not lost the plot. In fact, these are all just efforts to “grease the skids” for a new Qatari pipeline, built through Syria once Assad has been toppled and/or killed.
No, they are indeed following the script very closely.
You are right about the skids being greased.
There was also another article in EUobserver about the EU energy union, new laws, making Russia abide by EU energy laws that they will bring in, ect.
I suspect the object is to get Russian gas price up to the price of shipped US or Qatar gas with Euro or US companies making a big profit. Doing this then makes US gas competitive, and Europe less reliant on Russian gas. Bad for the average European but good for the few at the top.
The Qatar pipeline seems very much in doubt at the moment.
Looks like Turkey have refused Kiev’s request to have LNG tankers cross the Bosphorous to their Junta LNG terminal they want to build. That puts a spoke in the US/Kiev/EU energy plans…..
http://tass.ru/en/economy/784061
Rgds,
Veritas
AAIB Bank:
http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/36166/Real-Reason-for-the-Asian-Investment-Bank–and-Western-Participation/
CONgress tactics are in accordance with jack lew’s recent rant about “we are being attacked & our franchise is being undermined…”
Sure sure. As Tonto was famous for saying “Who’s WE, kemosabe?”
It comes amid prickly trade negotiations between Brussels and Washington, and at a time when EU and Asian governments are frustrated that the U.S. Congress has held up a reform of voting rights in the International Monetary Fund due to give China and other emerging powers more say in global economic governance.
German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble made the announcement at a joint news conference with visiting Chinese Vice Premier Ma Kai, at which no questions were allowed. He said Germany, Europe’s biggest economy and a major trade partner of Beijing, would be a founding member of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/20/us-asia-aiib-idUSKBN0MG0CB20150320
It seems most countries are jumping ship. If this is correct, the US will be alone aboard the USS Titanic.
The tried to assassinate Colonel Givi, but failed:
http://glagol.su/2015/03/19/srochno-pod-donetskom-soversheno-pokushenie-na-givi/
Go Misha! When attacked, counter attack. See them run. Happens to them a lot lately.
https://vk.com/strelkov_info
I have found this to be a good source of news. Not always correct but at the same time honest.
This evidence means nothing. The journalist is, according to dutch Wiki:
“Op 12 augustus 2008 raakte hij gewond aan zijn been tijdens een Russisch bombardement in de Georgische stad Gori. Cameraman Stan Storimans kwam hierbij om het leven. Akkermans heeft, samen met de weduwe van Storimans en de Georgische nabestaanden van de aanval op Gori, Rusland aangeklaagd bij het Hof van de Mensenrechten in Straatsburg.”
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeroen_Akkermans
This translates to something like this: in 2008 he was wounded during a bombardment in the Georgian town Gori, where Cameraman Storimans lost his life. Akkermans, together with others, is sueing Russia at the Court of Human Rights in Strassbourg.
Not an objective journalist…
This evidence means nothing. The journalist is, according to dutch Wiki:
“Op 12 augustus 2008 raakte hij gewond aan zijn been tijdens een Russisch bombardement in de Georgische stad Gori. Cameraman Stan Storimans kwam hierbij om het leven. Akkermans heeft, samen met de weduwe van Storimans en de Georgische nabestaanden van de aanval op Gori, Rusland aangeklaagd bij het Hof van de Mensenrechten in Straatsburg.”
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeroen_Akkermans
This translates to something like this: in 2008 he was wounded during a bombardment in the Georgian town Gori, where Cameraman Storimans lost his life. Akkermans, together with others, is sueing Russia at the Court of Human Rights in Strassbourg.
Not an objective journalist…
Not an objective journalist…
Unfortunately, the sod survived. I’ve no sympathy for the quislings of the Jewish owned/run zionazi media any more. Let them meet their mentor, Goebbels, in person.
That is wrong attitude,.вот так. Not helpful lat all. Being war correspondent is not an easy job. Wishing death on them is just plain wrong. NOT being embedded with the army is IMO a GOOD pointer to possible neutrality.
He is not anti-Russia. The court case is an attempt to get some compensation, specifically for the cameraman’s widow.
Akkermans did the ONLY proper documentation of the MH17 debris, spending days on it, in fact discovering some of the debris locations (in forest), when others were taking 3 snaps, grabbing a sound bite and moving on. He has returned a number of times for further even more detailed work there.
Akkermans work is the ONLY way we can know what really happened.
The few unlocated vague other shots by others would make it impossible to work out even the order of the break-up, He took distance shots, then closer, then closeups, to put every piece in context. He did closeups of part numbers, so people who know the system can 100% identify the part. He didn’t go for the one large symbolic part; he did all the tiny pieces hidden in grass, too…. like the one that is PROOF the left engine was struck by shrapnel.
He has done a number of interviews with Donbass people involved with the aftermath. The interviews were neutral in tone, no demonising of the locals. In fact if anything, they were critical of the official investigation…. including how they were ignoring local witness input.
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I have no doubt he souvenired a few scraps. I do doubt he did so with the intention of proving a BUK strike; he’s smart enough to know a piece with no provenance is not enough evidence.
No, the left wing is proof that it was attacked by an airplane. The other evidence of the photos Akkermans collected also show evidence of an airplane attack, not snaprel. Of course Akkermans collected data and photos, problem is, he can’t use 99% of the data, that all points towards gunshots and air to air missile, but rather after 9 months suddenly shows a piece never shown before pointing to a BUK:
http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/133434.html
So, yes he collected data thinking that would nail the Russians, something definitely is after, but then 99% of the data did not fit his mantra. Then he comes with a piece never seen before. So, no not at all convincing, on the contrary.
You have ZERO reason to accuse him of any bias, based on his photo series. They are comprehensive and detailed attempts to DOCUMENT an event. That is what good journalists are meant to do. There was nothing anti-Russian in his photography work, nor in his interviews with the Donbass “rescue” workers.
He has made the entire collection publicly available., He is not picking and choosing to twist the evidence in any way.
Just NOW something comes up that is attributed to him…. which is denied by the official investigation. So, someone else came to the conclusion from it, NOT HIM.
I repeat without Akkermans work we would NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AT ALL and “they” could tell us any BS they want and nobody could argue about it. His conscientious recording of detail preserved the scene. That cannot be dismissed because of one little scrap he supposedly kept, which he’d know is worthless as evidence anyway….. and which he did NOT hand over as “evidence”. Someone unofficial is claiming it, not the real investigators.
you don’t read, not based on his photo work, but on his attempt to 1. go to court against Russia, 2. proof he takes out of his pocket (can’t be verified it was found at the site, because he didn’t mention it in is earlier work nor photo work), and 3. neglecting evidence pointing to an airplane. Especially the latter point is very important. That is the proof that nails him as being biased. And that case showing proof that can’t be verified is very very dubious.
Would he have been objective, he would have possibly shown this as ‘evidence’, but also pointing at evidence of the wing and shot holes at the cockpit, and then stating that we have contradicting evidence. He obviously doesn’t. Simply, it means he is NOT objective.
Bellingcat, another biased site, took the photo’s of Akkermans for their work, so you would probably argue that they are doing fine work, but when I pointed the site at evidence of the wing, they didn’t like it so they just deleted the comment from their site. That’s not objective journalism, neither is Akkerman’s work.
Kat Kan
That is wrong attitude
True if one is coming from the perspective of supporting ZPC/NWO war crimes and public manipulation. Not only is Akkermans biased:
Jeroen Akkermans vindt bewijs neerhalen MH17 – RTL LATE NIGHT
RTL Late Night
Reporter Jeroen Akkermans has evidence that a BUK missile has shot the MH17 from the air. “Everyone wonders who has pressed the button. The launch area was out of the rebel territory. The suspects are in Russia,” says Jeroen Akkermans.
Not biased? My arse. It doesn’t get much more obvious than that. Your boy was in Russia in 1991, Chechnya in 94. Now he was in Novorussia in 2014. In Novorussia he’s neither an independent journalist, nor a war correspondent. He is a propagandist with an obvious anti-Russian bent, or more accurately, a reinforce the ZPC/NWO propaganda bent.
His past, and that he was selected to “plant evidence” about MH17 for the Israeli-Americans, makes it fairly certain your boy is no journalist at all, but a western security service agent (probably CIA/Mossad) working as a journalist, providing propaganda and espionage services as required.
Don’t be Fooled by Mainstream Media Journalists, “Independent” Experts and the CIA
The use of foreign journalists by the CIA is well known, both to author propaganda as “news” and to provide all sorts of other espionage services – such as planting/finding supporting “evidence” for their false flag war crimes. The Israeli use of journalists, through their extensive sayanim networks and their dominance of western media, is also well known. Akkermans was probably acting as a CIA/Mossad agent while in Novorussia, providing information that was used by the Israeli-American nazis against Novorussians, that was used by these fascists and their Ukrainian stooges. For example, the recent assassination attempt on Givi probably made use of info garnered from espionage from both western journalists/agents and from recruits living in the region.
My question is why you, Kat Kan, went to bat so hard for this biased, anti-Russian propagandist, and probable CIA/Mossad agent. Why was covering for him so important to you? Rhetorical questions, BTW, since I’ve known the answers for quite some time now.
Akkermans is one of the more senior, somewhat independent journalist around Dutch state TV.
Like all people in these circles, he has a rather strong anti Russia bias, most of which, he might not even be aware of himself.
His twitter account shows his opinions about several news items and observations, and gives a picture where he stands. Easy to translate with Google or Yandex.
The court case is in effect a claim for damages. That does not prove enmity towards Russia, it just shows a desire for compensation for damage. The lack of objectivity here is in those of you who are using side issues like this in an attempt to discredit someone who has, I repeat, done ALL we have available to know what DID HAPPEN/ and did it meticulously at that.
Bringing in Bellingcat is further obfuscation.That is a known PAID disinformation site. The fact that they used the same publicly available photos does nothing to discredit the person who took those photos. Stop trying to use smear tactics, try to keep to something approaching FACTS.
1: we have a story from Dutch TV channel claiming they had a fragment analysed and that was from a specific type of BUK. That analysis is in itself suspect, not least because it claims two different specific BUKs in virtually the same breath. Another claims a bit or rusty metal they never touched looks like a deformed piece of shrapnel. So the “expert analyses” are the usual BS anyway.
2: one piece has a partial cyrillic part number, but no expert has shown any BUK part with an identical numbering on it; it could be off any Russian or Ukrainian made item..
3: one or all the fragments were supposedly from Akkermans. Guess what — a photographer who had another photographer with him, and they DID NOT PHOTOGRAPH THE SCRAPS before they picked them up. Well that really tells us the context, right?
4: Dutch investigators have NOT SEEN the parts, but they are going to be given to them.
5: Dutch investigators are now RETURNING TO DONETSK again, expecting to stay a week. http://www.wsj.com/articles/dutch-investigators-to-return-to-mh17-crash-site-1426848229
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It is not clear Akkermans collected those pieces hoping to prove it was a BUK. He didn’t photograph them, and it was back in November. More likely along the lines of “Those idiot investigators didn’t even pick up these interesting bits”…. which would go well with them not picking up human bones (found by Graham Phillips, another photographer = eye for detail).
The “investigation” story is a beat-up, proves nothing, and he’d know it. But his bosses might have insisted on an investigation once they found out he had some scrap. The way it’s written they are really reaching, absolutely no factual analysis in it. . The desperation in it actually diminishes the case for a BUK.
He didn’t photograph them, and it was back in November.
Of course your boy didn’t photograph them then. The CIA/Mossad only just gave him the pieces a few days ago. :D
BTW, Kat Kan, are you the same one who comments at MoA under the nick “somebody”? Your style is very similar.
Oh, some bad news:
Netherlands Deny Reports That MH17 Brought Down by Buk Missile
The Dutch Safety Board (DSB) reacted to the reports, released earlier by RTL News that the flight MH17 was downed by Buk missile.
DSB reported that “The investigation into the cause of the accident is ongoing and is focusing on many more sources than just the pieces of shrapnel.”
“It is important that it be irrefutably demonstrated that there is a relationship between any material and the aeroplane that crashed,” DSB stressed.
It seems the DSB is less trusting of your boy, Akkermans, than you are. Bummer, eh? Apparently, they don’t want to blindly sign their names to falsehoods by zionazi media and the CIA/Mossad. I don’t blame them.
Dear The Saker,
Now the Western Ukraine wants more autonomy – so are they separatists and terrorists? Shall we see if the tanks are going to roll in……
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/03/lvov-deputy-demands-more-local.html
Just seen on RT that Kolomoisky has locked himself in the Kiev office of an oil company (Ukrop?) where his approved man was removed. He has his thugs with him…..here we go…..
Rgds,
Veritas
A surprisingly candid assessment of the Ukrainian army from The Grauniad: Corrupt, cash-strapped and lacking skill: the Ukraine army Britons come to train.
Why continue to sell this zionazi rubbish the Guardian peddles?
The zionazi media will never be on our side, ever.
Another example of other countries blindly following US orders, to the detriment of their own peace:
http://fpif.org/the-u-s-military-just-plunged-philippine-politics-into-crisis/
It’s amazing how common these stupid leaders are in the world!
US bribe money and Americanization in these countries is a “poison chalice” to their sovereignty.Once the elite classes in a society have been infected by “Westernization” and come to look down on their own as not “good enough”.Then the society becomes endangered.And only a massive effort can correct that.The Empire knows that Westernization/Americanization is their best weapon to create a 5th column.You can see that all over Europe and Latin America.
Neocon antics are coming non-stop now these past 2 months.
Two weeks ago the United States rammed through a seemingly meaningless resolution in the UN Security Council which basically said the legitimate government in Syria that Obama is determined to oust from office had better not drop barrel bombs filled with chlorine gas on their own people or Barack will start bombing the people of that country like he did when they made up lies about Gaddafi and started a “no fly zone” over there.
https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/new-chlorine-gas-barrel-bomb-propaganda-video-custom-made-for-obamas-new-red-line-in-syria-kurdistan-waits-in-wings/#more-33738
UN resolution 2209 Security. Council Condemns Use of Chlorine Gas as Weapon in Syria.
Venezuela abstained, China and Russia voted for it, on condition that any use of chemical weapons is thoroughly investigated to determine the culprit.
US believes it does not matter who uses them, the Assad regime is responsible.
I think Russia and China have made a mistake here as the US may use this as authority to put together another coalition of the killing to invade Syria.
Statements
Speaking after action, RAFAEL DARÍO RAMÍREZ CARREÑO (Venezuela) said he had abstained from the vote as it prejudged the result of the ongoing investigation by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) into the use of chlorine gas in the Syrian conflict. That investigation should first be concluded in order to determine the responsibility of various actors. Syria was a victim of armed groups that fuelled hatred, intolerance and violence. Those groups also had major military capacity. OPCW information on the removal of chemical weapons was evidence that Syria had complied with resolution 2118 (2013), he said, citing the need for peaceful conflict resolution among all parties, in line with Chapter VI of United Nations Charter. He fully supported the Secretary-General’s Special Envoy in efforts to achieve lasting peace among all sectors of Syrian society. Today’s resolution opened a dangerous path to the use of force, jeopardizing dialogue that had begun in Moscow and Cairo to end the conflict peacefully.
VITALY CHURKIN (Russian Federation) said he had voted in favour of the text. At the same time, his Government was guided by the principle of unacceptability of chemical weapons use. The OPCW fact-finding mission should conduct its work based on professionalism, impartiality and solid proof. There should be strict observance of the General Assembly resolution on cooperation between the United Nations and the OPCW, which stated that, in extreme cases, the OPCW Executive Council could communicate to the Assembly and the Security Council through established procedure. The Russian Federation would strictly base its position on the fact that only the guiding bodies of OPCW could determine violations of the chemical weapons ban, as outlined in the 14 September 2013 communiqué. He did not accept the possible use of sanctions under Chapter VII without attempts to confirm use of such chemicals.
WANG MIN (China) said his country resolutely opposed the use of chemical weapons and stressed the need to maintain the primacy of the OPCW in that regard. He hoped that all relevant parties would implement resolution 2209 (2015) fully and sincerely. Any further action must be addressed and agreed upon separately, he stressed.
SAMANTHA POWER (United States) said the resolution adopted today made it crystal clear that the use of chlorine weapons was no less evil than that of chemical weapons. The OPCW mission was not mandated to apportion culpability, she said, adding that some Council members sought to equate absence of culpability with exoneration. Only the regime of Bashar al-Assad had the capabilities to deploy and use chlorine weapons and must be held accountable for its violation of international law.
http://www.un.org/press/en/2015/sc11810.doc.htm
In reagrd to UNSC “informal” Crimea meeting:
http://tass.ru/en/russia/783935
Russia, China, Venezuela and Angola will not attend. Good sign – a show of support for Russia.
Rgds,
Veritas
I’m not so sure its a good idea not to be there.I see a possibility (small,but possible) that the West could spring a surprise resolution on Crimea (or something else) at the SC meeting.As the USSR learned to her sorrow if you aren’t there you can’t veto harmful resolutions.That was how the UN got involved in the Korean War.The USSR wasn’t at the meeting to veto that resolution,so it passed.Russia or China,one at least, should always attend every SC meeting.
The US will investigate using chlorine and determine that it was by whoever the US is against. The UN and EU will parrot it. Months later they will be proven wrong — by then too late. That’s the pattern.
TSKHINVAL, March 19. /TASS/. Georgia’s unconstructive stance at Geneva discussions on security and stability in Transcaucasia disrupted work on a statement on commitment to non-use of force, the head of the South Ossetian delegation Murat Dzhioyev told TASS on Thursday.
http://tass.ru/en/world/783890
MOSCOW, March 19 /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin will visit Beijing in September to take part in the celebrations of Victory in World War Two, Kremlin Administration Chief Sergey Ivanov told journalists on Thursday.
http://tass.ru/en/russia/783894
Thank you, sayonaki_tatsu
If, like me, you can't wait until Wednesday, here's the video with English Subtitles
Crimea. Way Back Home. Episode 1 – Saving President Yanukovich
Crimea. Way Back Home. Episode 2 – Rage of the Maidan Orcs
Crimea. Way Back Home. Episode 3 – Berkut. People's Protectors
Crimea. Way Back Home. Episode 4 – Sevastopol. Defense of Crimean Parliament
Crimea. Way Back Home. Episode 5 – Crimean Tatars
Indeed, many thanks HJay!
This is very valuable! The documentary is really interesting and very well made! Thanks…
Basically the junta has no interest in peace and is pretty much challenging the freedom fighters to further war which they should take advantage of and finish off the scum once and for all instead of letting the remnants of the AngloZionist imperial lackeys to regroup and rearm once again before their next attack. The freedom fighters should take it as the last chance the junta’s had and blew once again and mercilessly continues pounding their way to Kiev and the rest of Ukraine driving the enemy towards the NATO borders , and if NATO lets the fleeing enemy in , then in hot pursuit keep rolling all the way to Atlantic. Enough is enough. You’ve been treating utter scum with undue respect. Just finish the degenerates off, do the world a favor.
From @A_J_S_B on twitter:
Pictures of Ukraine making trenches in Mariupol beaches:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAgiD7pW4AA6eb1.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAgiEKZW8AEXTR6.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAgiEU3WQAATMpt.jpg
Clowns seem to think it’s WWI. Trenches, fortification lines?
It keeps the men busy and their eyes off the oligarchs.
Ukraine crisis: EU links Russia sanctions to truce deal
“”Our common intention is very clear – to maintain the sanctions until Minsk is fully implemented,” European Council President Donald Tusk said at a news conference.”
Translation: Sanctions against Russia will remain until Kiev stops shelling eastern Ukraine. In other words, never -or until the junta runs out of ammunition.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31979244
so what are American soldiers doing in Armenia?
http://rt.com/news/242373-nagorno-karabakh-conflict-azerbaijan/
Stirring up trouble for Russia on her Southern borders.If the US can get Armenia and Azerbaijan fighting.Besides drawing Russia’s attention there.The Turks will take Azerbaijan’s side.And that could cause trouble with the planned pipeline.And Turkish relations with Russia.
Slightly off topic but here’s the latest from The Hegemon; article by Greenwald about Snowden and Germany:
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/19/us-threatened-germany-snowden-vice-chancellor-says/
One can only imagine the threats then against Germany regarding Russia.
Well here is something innovative. If you are weary about bombing your own, then well at least you can still make money for your supporters and bombs what you make. That way it still all stays in the family. The ultimate in inbreeding.. I wonder if the 2 bil includes the destroyed equipment or for just the bombs and the real cost is 10 bil including the equipment. If nothing else it gives Russia ideas on how to blow the stuff up easily.. Seems the ultimate armor is not so ultimate after all..
The Pentagon has issued a statement regarding it’s ongoing air war against ISIS today, reporting 2,320 airstrikes, and claiming the direct costs of the attacks so far were $1.83 billion.
The statement attempts to focus on big “successes” in the attack, including 73 tanks destroyed, many of them US-made M1A1 tanks, and 282 Humvees, all of them US-made.
Conspicuously absent in the war, however, is any meaningful territory gained in either Syria or Iraq, despite thousands of airstrikes. The Pentagon is rather trying to change the focus to just the stuff they blew up.
I missed this one earlier; worth a read:
The Cross and the Sword
The Making of a Christian Taliban in Ukraine
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/18/ukraine-part-3/
Very interesting article coming from a anti-Russian source.All but 1 of the 18 comments were pro-Russian or at least not pro-Ukrainian.
The group profiled in the article are certainly a terrorist group.They need to be rooted out totally.Not a single one should escape if the NAF can prevent it.
It gets more interesting here
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/03/19/4698
In Ferguson — a city with a population of 21,000 — 16,000 people have outstanding arrest warrants, meaning that they are currently actively wanted by the police.
It turns out that nearly everyone in the city is wanted for something. Even internal police department communications found the number of arrest warrants to be “staggering”. By December of 2014, “over 16,000 people had outstanding arrest warrants that had been issued by the court.” The report makes clear that this refers to individual people, rather than cases, so people with many cases are not being counted multiple times.
In 2013, 32,975 offenses had associated warrants, so that there were 1.5 offenses for every city resident.
Ferguson courts appear to work as an orchestrated racket to extract money from the poor. The thousands upon thousands of warrants that are issued, according to the DOJ, are “not to protect public safety but rather to facilitate fine collection.” Residents are routinely charged with minor administrative infractions. Most of the arrest warrants stem from traffic violations, but nearly every conceivable human behavior is criminalized. An offense can be found anywhere, including citations for “Manner of Walking in Roadway,” “High Grass and Weeds,” and 14 kinds of parking violation. After Henry Davis was brutally beaten by four Ferguson officers, he found himself charged with “destruction of official property” for bleeding on their uniforms.
There are 19,492 municipal governments in America, and the chances that Ferguson happens to be the worst are extremely slim.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-robinson/the-shocking-finding-from-the-doj-ferguson_b_6858388.html?ir=India
Anyone knows by any chance where to download in pdf “Flashpoints: The Emerging Crisis in Europe” by George Friedman?
One of the most interesting articles I’ve seen today was posted on Fort Russ.The article itself wasn’t a great surprise.But the back story about a person in the article is very important to see.Read what the article says on Vladimir Parasyuk,and I will connect the dots:
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/03/lvov-deputy-demands-more-local.html
“Deputy Vladimir Parasyuk expressed the need to give more rights to the Western regions of Ukraine for active participation of these regions in the coup of 2014.
According to the Deputy Mikhail Kobtsev, Parasyuk demanded “to divide Ukraine… yelling about the need to give special privileges to Western Ukraine for active participation on the Maidan! I heard the rhetoric of 2004 about the separation of Western and Eastern Ukraine, but only in the opposite direction! What were dying for on the Maidan!?”
Vladimir Parasyuk was born in the village of Maidan (!), Lvov region, played active role in Maidan battle units, and later became a commander of the 4th regiment of “Dnepr” battalion. He was wounded and captured by DPR, and according to Boris Filatov was taken to Russia for questioning by GRU before his release.
Parasyuk is a member of the inter-faction group “Ukrop” (Ukrainian opposittion), which includes Dmitry Yarosh, Boris Filatov, Andre Biletsky and Boris Bereza (all notorious ultra-nationalists).
In the interview to “Ukrainian Pravda” Parasyuk announced:
“I was a member of the student fraternity in Lvov, received military training in good camps of various organizations, which taught the spirit of Ukrainianism. We were taught hand-to-hand combat, shooting with airguns, with the official permission were also taught to shoot with firearms at the shooting galleries. Also I was a member of the Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists, there was a battle unit. In the camps I learned the historical truth about the events in Ukraine, about the 1920’s, about the Holodomor in Ukraine.”
In an interview he also answered the question about the affiliation with any political parties and groups:
– And you are a member of the Right sector ?
– No. Now I am not a member of any one political party, in any organization.
In fact, the Right Sector is the umbrella organization for various Ukrainian ultra-nationalist organizations. Although the current Ukrainian parliament is full of ultra-nationalists, apparently to mislead the public many of them did not officially affiliate with the Right Sector or any other infamous ultra-nationalist groups.
So here is what we have now in Kiev: the Ukrainian parliament is full of people who ran around Maidan with Molotov cocktails, then marched to the East to bomb Donbass, and are now demanding more authority for their local government in Lvov, just as Donbass did a year ago.
Who is a separatist now?”
Many may not know about this Parasyuk.He was one of the main people behind the actual coup.Just before the coup he made an inflammatory speech in front of thousands of maidan rioters.Rejecting the agreement signed by Yanukovich ,he called on the mob to seize immediate power and to kill Yanukovich unless he fled at once.He had the leaders of the opposition on the stage with him.Telling them if they didn’t side with the mob they would be finished as well.You could see fear in their faces through the TV screen.His people carried a dead body through the crowd claiming he was killed by the police and calling for bloody vengeance on Yanukovich and Berkut.The crowd went insane with fury and the rest is history.
From this article we see that he had a background,not as a regular “peaceful Democratic protester” at maidan because of Yanukovich’s corruption.But as a fanatic neo-nazi from youth.A trained radical seizing the opportunity to take advantage of the situation to seize all Ukraine for West Ukrainians and fascism.He was the “spark” for the coup.His claiming he was captured fighting and then sent to Moscow.And then just released,is a joke.Had he been captured he’d still be there,or before a firing squad.Also important from the article ,we see that coup, was a power grab “by and for” West Ukrainians to take power in the whole nation for their region.It was a purer form of treason than I’ve seen in a long time.
Here is a great article on the junta.Everyone, I figure has heard of the claimed corruption of Yanukovich. So here is a report on the “democratic reformers” of the junta that replaced him.Or as I would say “lifestyles of the rich and fascist”:
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/03/lifestyles-of-rich-and-famous-ukrainian.html
Just lost an ex PM and true Statesman in Australia. Malcolm Fraser took power in Australia’s only CIA regime change operation. Interviews and articles he has written in the last few years had great vision for Australia.
Anti US in the last few years, since it come out that the sacking of Whitlam in 75 was a CIA/US regime change/coup operation.
On current Abbot PMs saying asking to be included in US current operations in Iraq, Fraser called it a total abrogation of sovereignty.
I doubt at the time he new about US machinations in the dismissal of Whitlam in Australia in 1975.
Anyone see this? US shoots down ISIS-operated drone for the first time
patriotic missile system.. what $2 billion?
ISIS model airplane.. 20 bucks..
Russia has nothing to worry about since they don’t operate model airplanes.
Russian marines. These guys look really young. Nothing like the gruffly NAF soldiers we see.
http://englishrussia.com/2015/03/18/russian-marines-from-sputnik-regiment/#more-156676
One more proof that the West lies about the Russian army invading Ukraine.Certainly there are Russian volunteers there.All or most of them are ex-military.From a country,that almost all men served at one time or the other in the military.So they have some military training already.But the two key words there are “volunteers” and “ex-military”.
«Нас мало, но мы в тельняшках!» “We are few, but we wear Telnyashka!”
US vassal US occupied country to join AIIB? Apart from being a US vassal and US occupied and old unresolved problems from WWII era, Japan is looking at joining the China led AIIB. Seems the US is the only country not joining?
PLA rescue ship helping the passengers on USS Titanic?
Japan, Australia signal approval of China-based AIIB
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/20/us-asia-aiib-idUSKBN0MG0CB20150320
I haven’t made up my mind about MH17 yet. There is too much controversial info.
I found this particularly interesting – this guy dug out some pretty convincing pictures, claiming it was all just a show for the cameras:
http://nodisinfo.com/strewn-fake-wreckage-proven-mh17-crash-hoax/
Dunno what to think about it, but even this sounds more convincing than the obvious nonsense with the alleged BUK.
I do hope you are joking. Your previous comments all seemed normal, so what happened?
The claim in that story is that the crash never happened, that it was all set up for show. OK let us look at that
* how many people, trucks, cranes etc would be needed to do it
* how many days would it take them
* how come nobody has said they saw anything like that, or took any pictures? (we’re talking three villages with at least 24,000 residents between them).
Then he relies on such “expertise” as
* straight-line breaks had to be CUT, could not be caused by explosion (??what about something coming apart at the construction joins??)
* many parts show no signs of charring therefore were not in an explosion (?? explosive decompression has no fire)
Please do NOT bother looking for the same author’s “proof” that the dead bodies were all either fake or brought in from a morgue (and/or maybe from MH370).
Truly people, don’t we have enough political propaganda to fight against? must we keep PROMOTING this level of ignorant nonsense by posting it over and over?
I said I haven’t made up my mind and that the info is controversial. That part is certainly no joke.
The linked page is of course with a wink, but I would still like to see how these photos of that guy with a paint bucket came about.
As for the logistics, you can drop it off from a plane just as well. It would certainly be technically doable. I am NOT saying that it was done, just that it is theoretically possible.
In the end, I simply do not know. What I do know is that the official info sucks, from all sides.
I am though absolutely certain it was not a ground-based rocket of any kind. I served on a rocket launcher in the army that was equipped with russian weapon systems, including BUKs. The smoke trail is miles long and visible for at least half an hour.
Take a look at the headline picture on my WordPress site:
http://www.donald7063.wordpress.com
This picture clearly indicates cannon fire from both the port and starboard side of MH17. No argument.
There are no holes in the right side of the cockpit. I think some of the skin is peeled outwards from some projectiles hitting at a sharp angle. In saying that, the projectiles seem to strike at different angles rather than from one angle as in a single missile blast.
Picture of bullet tests at different angles. http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/evanesce_girl/8305736/88154/88154_original.jpg
RH side of cockpit. http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/530110/img.jpg
Sorry, it does not “clearly indicate” anything of the sort. It shows a lot of holes in a piece of aircraft skin that is known to be from the left hand side under the cockpit window.
The cockpit is about 6 – 7ft (2 metres) across from one side to the other. For any of the holes to be from the right side, those bullets must have gone through that distance in a straight line.
The shot-from-inside theory is based on the outward curling of some of the metal.
Have you ever seen old cracked PAINT PEELING? all with outward curling. Did anything shoot those walls to make the paint curl?
You can plainly see that cockpit section is made up of several layers. The shrapnel hits it at high speed and high HEAT. As the fragment pierces the metal, the heat HEATS UP (surprise!) the air between the layers, causing it to expand, causing the outer layer to curl outwards.
Look here for the best collection of photos. See the ones of the cockpit being lifted, showing no holes on the right hand side.
https://secure.flickr.com/photos/jeroenakkermans/sets/
Peter
Thanks, interesting.
Kat Kan
The shot-from-inside theory is based on the outward curling of some of the metal.
Have you ever seen old cracked PAINT PEELING? all with outward curling. Did anything shoot those walls to make the paint curl?
That is a very pathetic comparison, the sort one would expect from some Fox news guest “expert” – perhaps one of those ubiquitous retired pindo generals. :D
ouch….why be mean to someone who’s thinking, even if you don’t agree ?
Ann
someone who’s thinking
Are you serious? Thinking that weathered paint peeling has something to do with with damage on a shot down airliner? That’s thinking? The guy is spamming rubbish.
The Destruction of Libya, the Destabilization of a Nation. ~ US-NATO Crimes against Humanity
The late Col. Muammar Khadafy, hailed as the “Great Leader” by the Libyan people during his incumbency, was murdered by Chad, Somali and Sudanese mercenaries in collusion with NATO and US invading forces on October 19, 2011. Khadafy’s Libya, two years before he was ousted and assassinated was considered as one of Africa’s greatest nations. “In 1967, Colonel Gaddafi inherited one of the poorest nations in Africa; however, by the time he was assassinated, Gaddafi had turned Libya into Africa’s wealthiest nation. Libya had the highest GDP per capita and life expectancy on the African continent. Less people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.”
USA has been scheming for over four decades to topple Khadafy because he never allowed US and the First World countries allied by US and Britain to dictate on the Libyan oil policy program nor did he allow the IMF-WB to wreck havoc in the economy of the country by not subscribing to its capitalistic financing and loan programs. Likewise, socialist Libya under the leadership of Khadafy was a great supporter of the Non-Aligned Movement which detested foreign interventionism of superpowers in the affairs of the Third World countries.
He was a zealous supporter of Nelson Mandela’s ANC, the anti-apartheid, anti-racism socialist rebels in South Africa, while US and UK had been long supporters of Johannesburg apartheid regime—up until the time in the early 80’s when US/UK realized that the South African apartheid regime was already tottering apart, hence they belatedly withdraw support to the apartheid government.
“Under Gaddafi’s rule, Libyans enjoyed not only free health-care and free education, but also free electricity and interest-free loans. Now thanks to NATO’s intervention, the health-care sector is on the verge of collapse as thousands of Filipino health workers flee the country, institutions of higher education across the East of the country are shut down, and black outs are a common occurrence in once thriving Tripoli.”
“Even the United Nations Human Rights Council praised Gaddafi for his promotion of women’s rights. When the colonel seized power in 1969, few women went to university. Today, more than half of Libya’s university students are women. One of the first laws Gaddafi passed in 1970 was an equal pay for equal work law”.
In Libya, during Khadafy’s rule, all women share the same rights as men and in fact, women are even preferred to men when it comes to access of education to State Universities and priority access of work opportunities in Libyan government corporations and institutions. In 2007, women students in the University of Tripoli, University of Sirte and University of Cyrene bypassed the population of men students. In Libya, a woman can divorce her husband, demand for equal work-equal pay scheme with that of men, and husbands are given paternity leaves so that they can help their wives (likewise given maternity leaves) in taking care of their infant during the first three months after birth
Thanks to US interventionism, Libya from a progressive secularist and relatively economically well-off socialist country in North Africa has now become a putrid piece of cake to be cruelly subdivided by extremist terrorists, unruly tribes, armed bandits and undisciplined armed extremist sects—each militias of these armed sectors are presently wrecking havoc to the entire breadth and length of Libya, continuing their looting, raping, pillage and murder of civilians. Truth is, Western interventions have produced nothing but colossal failures in present Libya, Iraq, and Syria. Lest we forget, prior to western military involvement in these three nations, they were the most modern and secular states in the Middle East and North Africa—these three socialist and Islamic countries had fully subscribed to the recognition of women’s rights and they had relatively high standards of living in both Middle East and North African regions.
The so-called “Arab Spring” and the “US War on Terror” are all about US Hegemony, US/NATO Interventionism, Middle East-Central Asian Pipelines and the Military Industrial Complex from the start to finish, and this US interventionism is NEVER about democracy, NEVER about freedom nor for “just war”! These are all done for the selfish interest of US Hegemony! And at whose expense? It is always at the expense of the lives, limbs and properties of the oppressed and exploited peoples of the Middle East and the Third World!
https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/report-43727/
Stick that in your military pipe and blow on it.
Givi in Eng. Sub-titles on assassination attempt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuVCAHGTCQg&feature=youtu.be
Mr Saker, could you ask some of your Russian translators to translate the documentary aired last sunday?
You spoke of bad PR qualities of the Russian government once. This is another example: almost a weeks delay for a pre-recorded show!
it is being translated by others. The first 6 episodes are available, and more will be added as done.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a8_1426713567
Great work! Thanks!
The clumsy PR abilities of the RF indicates their world view. They cater to their regional sphere of influence or interests and don’t think they can penetrate the English-speaking world.
RT is garbage as voice of the RF. Laughable most of the time from their studio. Field reporters are fairly good, Ruptly video is good.
Without Saker, FortRuss and sometimes Russia-Insider, they would be invisible to the Western truth-seeker.
Everything of quality requires machine translation: Col Cassad has English, but much is still left for machines. Politikus.ru would be a terrific news and opinion source, but it has no intention by design of speaking to English-speakers, readers.
The truly bi-lingual voices tend toward factional ideologues, so you have Bazov, Sleboda, and the like are marginal bearers of information.
Thus, the media,the information sphere, is conceded to the megaphone of the Hegemon and fascists and is only challenged by the Vineyard, its commenters bringing information, FortRuss and R-I and the random articles or research or stout opinions of individuals from the Resistance.