According to the first link above, the Ukropians, along with their “democratic” overlords are planning a false flag event that will serve as an excuse for NATO “peacekeepers” to be brought into the Donbass and try to defeat the NAF.
According to the second link, the Ukropians (along with their western masters, of course) are preparing for another major offensive, this time with advanced western weaponry and some small units well trained by US military instructors.
What does The Saker and followers of this blog make of all this?
R; If the grandiose US victories in Nam, Afghanistan and Iraq are anything to go by, I’d say the Kiev Killer Kommandos have as much chance to survive the upcoming onslaught as a snowball being shot through hell and back has…
The Ukies will be well-trained, well-equiped corpses when their offensive meets Russian counter-offensive equipment and militia unleashed.
NATO strategies can’t be effective without air cover. They will have no air cover.
Training has been short. There have been no exercises of consequence displaying the fruits of the training. Showing Ukies how things work does not mean the new equipment will work. And any embedded NATO instructors and leaders will be just as dead as the Ukies next to them.
GRADS don’t discriminate. The offensive will burn and incinerate. All that new armor and targeting electronics will get shredded. Any Russian general commanding the counter-offensive must be drooling over the array of targets up close with no hope of going deeper than 10 kilometers or running away much farther. Fuel and condition of the vehicles is apparently, according to Col Cassad and other knowledgeable experts, a big problem. The separation of tanks from fuel is a big issue.
We are on the “eve” of one of NATO’s great self-administered ass-kickings. It is a shame that the world can’t watch it live on streaming video.
Russia’s force structure in the neighborhood assures that if for some reason the Ukies have a good day one, by nightfall, polite green men will turn the battles.
In no way will the militia be harmed. They will have casualties, but there is no chance Russia will not provide whatever it takes to destroy the Ukie offensive.
And it will be more unmerciful than the Southern Boiler was. Look up those photos again. Utter destruction of men and machines. 2015’s version will be ten times worse, NATO, US and all.
Whoever thinks Putin spoke about threats to Crimea and did not mean that as a warning to the West just does not get it.
He will apply an unrestrained lesson to the enemy.
I hope you are right about him,we’ll see.But one thing I do firmly believe.If the Donbass is lost by Russia I wouldn’t take any odds on the current Russian government lasting till the elections in 2018.If the 5th column in Russia doesn’t get them in a coup.The patriotic forces there will (I’d be hoping for the patriots).The disgrace of kneeling to her enemies would be the end of any Russian government.Hopefully the current government fully understands that.And we don’t have another Nicholas II moment coming.
Putin is still playing for a unified Ukraine and has only undertaken to “match” NATO escalation. What I take as a sign of my own expectations is the 100% failure in the past few months to land the Tochka U missiles that have been launched. I think the ability of the NAF to pluck them out of the air with such consistency is a new capability. (Guardian angels?)
There will be no well-trained Ukrainian troops. You can’t take hopelessly incompetent men, who, according to their instructors, didn’t know how to carry a wounded man or breach a door, and teach them much in six weeks, especially if you don’t speak their language, they were drafted at gunpoint and are hoping for an early chance to surrender, and they resent the hell out of your superior attitude. There’s not much for an untrained man to do in this fight — it’s an artillery war, and you can’t make an artillery gunner from scratch in the few days left after these poor souls either pick up the basics of how to clean their rifles and waterproof their boots or haven’t learned but got a “social promotion” to the “advanced” classes. In fact, six weeks isn’t long enough to get them fit, judging from the look of them, and the extra laps around the track they need takes time away from learning.
Most of the NAF had some basic training but those who didn’t learned in the field because they respected the people they were fighting beside who had more experience, and the veterans for their part were willing to spare them the necessary time and attention even though that carries some risks.
Spetznaz forces (behind enemy lines guys) aren’t fully trained for years.
I basically agree with you.But we shouldn’t let hubris affect us too.Some of the Russian experts on our side have said there are some good Ukie units.They aren’t all trash fighters.And its very possible that some of their artillery could get manned by Western fighters.So while I want to feel totally confident,I also don’t want to get overconfident.
Here’s the transcript of the report from their site:
The military situation in LPR became tenser last night. Kiev artillery in Stannica Luganskaya intensified shelligns at positions of LPR Armed Forces. A firefight between pro-Kiev militants and servicemen of LPR military was observed at the monument of Prince Igor.
The capital of LPR came under Ukrainian artillery fire. Novorossian air defense reportedly shot down a Tochka U rocket over the city.
In the sector of Orehovo, 3 pro-Kiev militants were blown up on own trip wire. The suburbs of the most part of Kiev-controlled settlements are a mined zone.
In the settlement of Zolotoe Kiev forces didn’t allow OSCE mission to enter their positions.
Meanwhile, Kiev military pulled 8 battle tanks and over a battalion of infantry to Avdeevka. Also, 4 units of MLRS Grad and a battery of howitzers are established there. These will strengthen seriously Kiev artillery power aimed on the capital of DPR.
Moreover, pro-Kiev militants have been exercising fire from the directions of Krasnogorovka, Nevelskoe. There are causalities among locals in the Staromihailovka settlement.
A military truck knocked down and killed an old woman in the Kiev-controlled settlement of Sartana in the sector of Mariupol.
Saker,
Itar tass is reporting today that the Normandy meeting in Berlin did not end with any result: Porky has scheduled the meeting of the ukrie duma on the 31 of August to decide on the federalization. It probably will end with a NO of the deputies, and immediately after the attack on Donbass.
Porky needs the cover of “a democratic decision” before the beginning of the war. NATO airborne exercise is definitely a way to take out attention from the real problem.
http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/source-poroshenko-is-planning-operation.html
http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/is-donbass-on-verge-of-new-offensive.html
According to the first link above, the Ukropians, along with their “democratic” overlords are planning a false flag event that will serve as an excuse for NATO “peacekeepers” to be brought into the Donbass and try to defeat the NAF.
According to the second link, the Ukropians (along with their western masters, of course) are preparing for another major offensive, this time with advanced western weaponry and some small units well trained by US military instructors.
What does The Saker and followers of this blog make of all this?
@ Stavros H,
Q; … well trained by US military instructors.
R; If the grandiose US victories in Nam, Afghanistan and Iraq are anything to go by, I’d say the Kiev Killer Kommandos have as much chance to survive the upcoming onslaught as a snowball being shot through hell and back has…
The Ukies will be well-trained, well-equiped corpses when their offensive meets Russian counter-offensive equipment and militia unleashed.
NATO strategies can’t be effective without air cover. They will have no air cover.
Training has been short. There have been no exercises of consequence displaying the fruits of the training. Showing Ukies how things work does not mean the new equipment will work. And any embedded NATO instructors and leaders will be just as dead as the Ukies next to them.
GRADS don’t discriminate. The offensive will burn and incinerate. All that new armor and targeting electronics will get shredded. Any Russian general commanding the counter-offensive must be drooling over the array of targets up close with no hope of going deeper than 10 kilometers or running away much farther. Fuel and condition of the vehicles is apparently, according to Col Cassad and other knowledgeable experts, a big problem. The separation of tanks from fuel is a big issue.
We are on the “eve” of one of NATO’s great self-administered ass-kickings. It is a shame that the world can’t watch it live on streaming video.
Russia’s force structure in the neighborhood assures that if for some reason the Ukies have a good day one, by nightfall, polite green men will turn the battles.
In no way will the militia be harmed. They will have casualties, but there is no chance Russia will not provide whatever it takes to destroy the Ukie offensive.
And it will be more unmerciful than the Southern Boiler was. Look up those photos again. Utter destruction of men and machines. 2015’s version will be ten times worse, NATO, US and all.
Whoever thinks Putin spoke about threats to Crimea and did not mean that as a warning to the West just does not get it.
He will apply an unrestrained lesson to the enemy.
I hope you are right about him,we’ll see.But one thing I do firmly believe.If the Donbass is lost by Russia I wouldn’t take any odds on the current Russian government lasting till the elections in 2018.If the 5th column in Russia doesn’t get them in a coup.The patriotic forces there will (I’d be hoping for the patriots).The disgrace of kneeling to her enemies would be the end of any Russian government.Hopefully the current government fully understands that.And we don’t have another Nicholas II moment coming.
Putin is still playing for a unified Ukraine and has only undertaken to “match” NATO escalation. What I take as a sign of my own expectations is the 100% failure in the past few months to land the Tochka U missiles that have been launched. I think the ability of the NAF to pluck them out of the air with such consistency is a new capability. (Guardian angels?)
Cassandra, you don’t know what is in Putin’s mind…I doubt he’s doing what you say…he knows the real deal…knows alot better than we do…
There will be no well-trained Ukrainian troops. You can’t take hopelessly incompetent men, who, according to their instructors, didn’t know how to carry a wounded man or breach a door, and teach them much in six weeks, especially if you don’t speak their language, they were drafted at gunpoint and are hoping for an early chance to surrender, and they resent the hell out of your superior attitude. There’s not much for an untrained man to do in this fight — it’s an artillery war, and you can’t make an artillery gunner from scratch in the few days left after these poor souls either pick up the basics of how to clean their rifles and waterproof their boots or haven’t learned but got a “social promotion” to the “advanced” classes. In fact, six weeks isn’t long enough to get them fit, judging from the look of them, and the extra laps around the track they need takes time away from learning.
Most of the NAF had some basic training but those who didn’t learned in the field because they respected the people they were fighting beside who had more experience, and the veterans for their part were willing to spare them the necessary time and attention even though that carries some risks.
Spetznaz forces (behind enemy lines guys) aren’t fully trained for years.
I basically agree with you.But we shouldn’t let hubris affect us too.Some of the Russian experts on our side have said there are some good Ukie units.They aren’t all trash fighters.And its very possible that some of their artillery could get manned by Western fighters.So while I want to feel totally confident,I also don’t want to get overconfident.
Here’s the transcript of the report from their site:
The military situation in LPR became tenser last night. Kiev artillery in Stannica Luganskaya intensified shelligns at positions of LPR Armed Forces. A firefight between pro-Kiev militants and servicemen of LPR military was observed at the monument of Prince Igor.
The capital of LPR came under Ukrainian artillery fire. Novorossian air defense reportedly shot down a Tochka U rocket over the city.
In the sector of Orehovo, 3 pro-Kiev militants were blown up on own trip wire. The suburbs of the most part of Kiev-controlled settlements are a mined zone.
In the settlement of Zolotoe Kiev forces didn’t allow OSCE mission to enter their positions.
Meanwhile, Kiev military pulled 8 battle tanks and over a battalion of infantry to Avdeevka. Also, 4 units of MLRS Grad and a battery of howitzers are established there. These will strengthen seriously Kiev artillery power aimed on the capital of DPR.
Moreover, pro-Kiev militants have been exercising fire from the directions of Krasnogorovka, Nevelskoe. There are causalities among locals in the Staromihailovka settlement.
A military truck knocked down and killed an old woman in the Kiev-controlled settlement of Sartana in the sector of Mariupol.
@ the ~ 0,34 mark of this clip, the narrator mentions a “…..{???}…….. rocket” having been downed by the Russian Air Defense…
What are the ramifications of this [if true] and what are the ‘Russian Air Defense’ exactly [and where are they located – Russia, Donbass or both]?
Listen again. He says Novorossian Air Defense.
Saker,
Itar tass is reporting today that the Normandy meeting in Berlin did not end with any result: Porky has scheduled the meeting of the ukrie duma on the 31 of August to decide on the federalization. It probably will end with a NO of the deputies, and immediately after the attack on Donbass.
Porky needs the cover of “a democratic decision” before the beginning of the war. NATO airborne exercise is definitely a way to take out attention from the real problem.