They appear to be SU-25 ground attack jets that Ukraine has used for some time against eastern Ukraine. They can carry multiple unguided rockets, bombs, missiles and auto-cannon.
That’s all I can help wth.
Earliest version I can find went up on June 19 this year.
Melitopol is the military airport in Zaporzhye where some of the SU’s shot down last year came from. Also supposedly one shot down over Debaltsevo during the cauldron, that nothing more was ever said about.
This seems to be only two jets and just practicing manoeuvring. Not surprising, they’ve not been up for at least 6 months, so need the practice. Probably no more than 4 of these left in airworthy condition, and they have 2 or up to 4 MIGs also recently renovated (announced a while back but not seen flying that I know of).
What this needs to translate to, quick smart, is a “Don’t you even think of it” signal from Russia.
We know the puppet masters like aerial work, but it’s rather hard to pass off as not breaking a ceasefire.
I get the definite sense that there is a bit of a discord within the American administration over how to proceed with Ukraine and Iraq/Syria , with the pentagon being the arm of government behind the push for a war in Europe and elsewhere for that matter. There have been too many times when the uncle Tom in the white house has made statements only for the statements to be directly contradicted by the pentagon and you think , who is running the show here ?
The answer to that lies in the money trail. Just follow the money.
From the International Business Times :
$14 Million An Hour: War Costs Top $1.6 Trillion Since 9/11, Say Congressional Researchers.
American taxpayers have shelled out roughly $1.6 trillion on war spending since 9/11, according to a new report from Congress’ nonpartisan research arm. That’s roughly $337 million a day — or nearly a quarter million dollars a minute — every single day for 13 years.
The $1.6 trillion estimate, which comes to $14 million per hour since 9/11, from the Congressional Research Service is up roughly half a trillion dollars from its 2010 estimate, which found that the post-9/11 military operations are second only to World War II in terms of financial cost.
In its report, which was released earlier this month, CRS finds that the 92 percent of the war-related expenditures since 9/11 have flowed into the Pentagon. Just 6 percent has been spent on foreign assistance and diplomacy, and 1 percent on medical services for veterans”.
92% of war expenditures since 9/11 have flowed into the pentagon says a lot, especially considering the fact that $8.5 trillion of taxpayers money has been awarded to the pentagon since 1996 none of which has ever being audited, not one cent.
The neo con crazies in the pentagon are the ones playing nuclear brinksmanship with Russia and are the ones pushing for war. These people see it as the only option left to them for covering their own backsides. The only question left is will they succeed ?
The rest of the above article can be read through the link below :
According to local residents in Zaporozhye an unknown sniper fired on the Ukrainian checkpoint.
Some of the Ukrainian security forces have been killed and wounded.
According to reports, the incident occurred in the Gulyai-pole region of the Zaporozhye area. At the moment, the Ukrainian security forces are conducting search operations, trying to track down the shooter.
Also recently there were reports that in Zaporozhye unknown sniper shot three national guardsmen in Berdyansk. The representatives of the militia of Donbass said that the sniper has nothing to do with their sabotage and reconnaissance groups. http://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_64059
Good,hopefully there will be many more attacks.I know from friends in Zaporozhye Oblast that there are many unhappy with the junta and fascists.They are afraid to act,and hope the NAF will come to help them.The fascist terror in that Oblast is strong and many are terrified of it.
Major General Alexander Kolomiyets, former aide to Ukraine’s Defense Minister, has defected to DPR. He becomes the fourth major defection in the past week.
Hopefully this is only the start.If enough of the military “bigwigs” start defecting to the “Federalist side”.It could lead to major problems for the junta.And the start of denazification for Ukraine.
A long written interview with Givi in English:
http://rusvesna.su/english/1434856700
Ukrainian monsters from Tornado battalion, in their own ugly words:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo7t27D0xXU
Can’t translate title, so don’t know what’s happening..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAJhl_CL7e4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
but it *looks* like fighter jets are now in the mix. The vid only went up by hour ago so I don’t think it’s historical.
But whose are they?
Anyone?
They appear to be SU-25 ground attack jets that Ukraine has used for some time against eastern Ukraine. They can carry multiple unguided rockets, bombs, missiles and auto-cannon.
That’s all I can help wth.
Yandex translates to
Zaporozhye su 25 over the Melitopol news June 21, 2015
according google translate….
“Zaporizhia region Su 25 over Melitopol News June 21, 2015”
ibrahim
Earliest version I can find went up on June 19 this year.
Melitopol is the military airport in Zaporzhye where some of the SU’s shot down last year came from. Also supposedly one shot down over Debaltsevo during the cauldron, that nothing more was ever said about.
This seems to be only two jets and just practicing manoeuvring. Not surprising, they’ve not been up for at least 6 months, so need the practice. Probably no more than 4 of these left in airworthy condition, and they have 2 or up to 4 MIGs also recently renovated (announced a while back but not seen flying that I know of).
What this needs to translate to, quick smart, is a “Don’t you even think of it” signal from Russia.
We know the puppet masters like aerial work, but it’s rather hard to pass off as not breaking a ceasefire.
I get the definite sense that there is a bit of a discord within the American administration over how to proceed with Ukraine and Iraq/Syria , with the pentagon being the arm of government behind the push for a war in Europe and elsewhere for that matter. There have been too many times when the uncle Tom in the white house has made statements only for the statements to be directly contradicted by the pentagon and you think , who is running the show here ?
The answer to that lies in the money trail. Just follow the money.
From the International Business Times :
$14 Million An Hour: War Costs Top $1.6 Trillion Since 9/11, Say Congressional Researchers.
American taxpayers have shelled out roughly $1.6 trillion on war spending since 9/11, according to a new report from Congress’ nonpartisan research arm. That’s roughly $337 million a day — or nearly a quarter million dollars a minute — every single day for 13 years.
The $1.6 trillion estimate, which comes to $14 million per hour since 9/11, from the Congressional Research Service is up roughly half a trillion dollars from its 2010 estimate, which found that the post-9/11 military operations are second only to World War II in terms of financial cost.
In its report, which was released earlier this month, CRS finds that the 92 percent of the war-related expenditures since 9/11 have flowed into the Pentagon. Just 6 percent has been spent on foreign assistance and diplomacy, and 1 percent on medical services for veterans”.
92% of war expenditures since 9/11 have flowed into the pentagon says a lot, especially considering the fact that $8.5 trillion of taxpayers money has been awarded to the pentagon since 1996 none of which has ever being audited, not one cent.
The neo con crazies in the pentagon are the ones playing nuclear brinksmanship with Russia and are the ones pushing for war. These people see it as the only option left to them for covering their own backsides. The only question left is will they succeed ?
The rest of the above article can be read through the link below :
http://www.ibtimes.com/14-million-hour-war-costs-top-16-trillion-911-say-congressional-researchers-1764816
According to local residents in Zaporozhye an unknown sniper fired on the Ukrainian checkpoint.
Some of the Ukrainian security forces have been killed and wounded.
According to reports, the incident occurred in the Gulyai-pole region of the Zaporozhye area. At the moment, the Ukrainian security forces are conducting search operations, trying to track down the shooter.
Also recently there were reports that in Zaporozhye unknown sniper shot three national guardsmen in Berdyansk. The representatives of the militia of Donbass said that the sniper has nothing to do with their sabotage and reconnaissance groups.
http://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_64059
Good,hopefully there will be many more attacks.I know from friends in Zaporozhye Oblast that there are many unhappy with the junta and fascists.They are afraid to act,and hope the NAF will come to help them.The fascist terror in that Oblast is strong and many are terrified of it.
high level defector to DPR
Major General Alexander Kolomiyets, former aide to Ukraine’s Defense Minister, has defected to DPR. He becomes the fourth major defection in the past week.
https://www.facebook.com/TruthfromUkraine/photos/a.1462094710680543.1073741828.1452285018328179/1664108057145873/?type=1
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2247623.html
Hopefully this is only the start.If enough of the military “bigwigs” start defecting to the “Federalist side”.It could lead to major problems for the junta.And the start of denazification for Ukraine.