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25.05.2015 Crisis News

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  1. Anonymous on May 26, 2015  ·  at 2:26 pm EST/EDT

    Sitrep comments 5/26: This editorial is a very circumspect way of commenting on recent events in
    Donbass:

    http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/novorossiya-dead/ri7409

    yes, it died with the assassination ( mysterious, oh so mysterious) of Mozgovoi. It is Bad for your health to criticize Minsk II even as the other side heedlessly violates it raining shells of death around you.

    • blue on May 26, 2015  ·  at 3:55 pm EST/EDT

      Mozgovoi’s assassination is not significant in this. The people in Novorossia will not live under Kiev’s rule, and Kiev is not near reforming, becoming competent, or running a proper nation, and won’t be until the fangs of the US and EU are removed. This is from the people themselves, after having endured so many atrocities and so much oppression, not from a few leaders who sprung from those people, and with the support of many people in Russia.

      Russia is playing it low key and strategically but understands this. A united, federalized Ukraine can emerge only after much change and reform in the various oblasts in the western parts. Most likely is gradual shifts of parts of Ukraine towards the eastern block until little is left of the bankrupt and desolated west, for a simple reason: people will refuse to live as subhumans. If external forces force a putative unified Ukraine which fails to meet the needs of people then an ongoing resistance movement will just go underground.

  2. Anonymous on May 26, 2015  ·  at 2:34 pm EST/EDT

    Sitrep: Notice that Motorola keeps his mouth shut and his head down. I don’t think he will be targeted soon by some roving mysterious assassination squad—at least one can hope not. The companions of Mozgovoi looked upset and scared in their press converence and were very reassuring in their statements that they were in the fight loyally following orders. ( just don’t say anything bad about Minsk II). Minsk II? a paper joke but a high level political maneuver–maybe necessary as part of an over all strategy of
    ” hold your fire until you see the whites of their eyes”. who knows?

  3. Anonymous on May 26, 2015  ·  at 2:50 pm EST/EDT

    Sitrep: This is why the screws are on in the Donbass for political and social order and conformity:

    http://russia-insider.com/en/nato-begins-anti-russian-air-drill-arctic/ri7410

    And in a sad way, it is totally understandable because it is not the right time for anything other. There is perspective in the study of military history especially the US Civil war. Robert E. Lee needed Jeb Stuart, a charismatic, brilliant but erratic cavalry officer to bring him timely intelligence so that he could gain the field for the battle of Gettburg, but Stuart was unfocussed that day and was basically off fooling around and so began the series of defeats over the next few days. Wars are not won by depending on those types especially if the margin of error is very thin. When Stonewall Jackson died (by friendly fire–no lies about heroic death for this man), Lee was heard to say, “I have lost my right arm”.

  4. teranam13 on May 26, 2015  ·  at 3:35 pm EST/EDT

    re: Mozgovoi. Here is a commentary from FortRus that breaks my heart

    http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/05/stalinists-vs-trotskyists-or-mozgovoy.html

    • blue on May 26, 2015  ·  at 4:07 pm EST/EDT

      Russia may be at a center of much of current events but it is not driving them — it was swept up in them: the mechanizations of the empire, globalization, and world wide fascist attacks, opposed by vast numbers of people and many countries over the world. This is not a ‘local’ struggle but a shift in paradigms and death throes of capitalism, imperialism, and the philosophy of exploitation of the environment. People everywhere want their ‘place in the sun’.

    • Kat Kan on May 26, 2015  ·  at 4:54 pm EST/EDT

      If it’s any consolation to you, I disagree with that assessment.

      Mozgovoi railed against Minsk (and the previous ceasefires) because they had utterly failed to stop the firing.

      Numerous minor skirmishes, a few coal-vendor Cossacks killed etc didn’t attract media attention. And could be passed off as “policing against criminals” actions. But when the immensely popular and well known Batman was killed, by LPR prosecutors, it was world news and looked VERY bad for LPR. 2000 people attended his funeral; I didn’t know there were as many cars left working in Lugansk as what were in the cortege.

      Plotnitski was called to Moscow. He was allowed to return. I am certain the conditions included “do not destablise” and “don’t get bad publicity”. There currently is nobody suitable to replace him, and doing so would also destablise LPR and weaken both republics’ bargaining positions — maybe embolden Kiev to strike while they are weak and busy with squabbling.

      Kiev is the only one to benefit from removing an excellent commander and making it look like his own leaders did it. (To this end the group that took credit has been discredited by Kiev, and indeed their presence seems a lot stronger on the internet than on the ground).

      What nonsense Right Sector can’t do an ambush? even without the NATO training they just got. Of course they can. It was a dead simple ambush, in an area very easy to get into (among the hundreds of workers and market vendors crossing in every day). Easy to “hide” in plain sight as they are locals like the locals are (look the same, speak the same, maybe live/d in that area). Nothing sticks out about them if they keep their tattoos covered. They do know how to set mines, plant bombs and shoot kalashnikovs. …it’s what they do every day.

      Mozgovoi did push his luck a bit with wanting to do his own Victory Day parade, but he DID cancel it when told to. It is partly LPRs fault that they didn’t organise a serious parade like DPR did, with EVERY unit represented, then he could have gone to that.

      Criticising Minsk would have been a PR disaster ONLY on the day they announced what they’d agreed to. And on that occasion Mozgovoi gave an excellent statement about unity, justice for all good people in ALL Ukraine, get rid of oligarchs everywhere, but nothing about territorial expansion, nothing about independence, nothing about the leaders betraying anyone. And it didn’t look like he was reading it at gunpoint.

      Nobody but Kiev benefits from the turmoil this murder has caused.

  5. вот так on May 26, 2015  ·  at 8:17 pm EST/EDT

    Excellent report.

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