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It’s Greek to me!
Not sure where to place this. But as this is under “Crisis News,” it appeared appropriate. Important history is being made (as we communicate) in the birthplace of Democracy, and land of Leonidas and his 300.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33265923
And, in Tuesday’s “Wall Street Journal,” a decent informational Headline article, “Hopes for Deal Rise On Greek Proposal.”
Don’t let the WSJ Headline throw you, there is no hope for a ‘Deal.’ between Greeks and the Eurozone Financial Oligarchs. The WSJ article, however, offers (a rarity), much useful information on the conundrum facing the World Banking System, that of how to draw Blood from Stone? After they milk (as we say) loot the peoples of a given nation, how do the Oligarchs expect to draw wealth that is no longer there. Greece is dry.
That is the conundrum. Greek Prime Minister Tsipras, so-called Leftist Militant, has nothing left to “sell-out.” Greece is dry. Yes, our Saker got it right the first time, when he wrote his famous analysis of the Syriza and its leaders.
Has anyone noticed that Tsipras resembles the so called leader of British Labor, the imperialist, Blair? He physically resembles a younger Blair. Unlike Blair, Tsipras, and the rest of the Greek Left and Right, have nothing left to sell.
The financial crisis facing Greece and Europe is so serious, that Tsipras is attempting to corral (like an American cowboy), the President of Russia, into rescuing, not only the Greek government and Greek economy, but the entire Zionist American European banking system. All they need is for Russia to loan, -with no reliable guarantees of repayment- the hundreds of $Billions needed to prevent Greece from defaulting and dragging down the imperialist monetary system in a domino effect.
What could the imperialists offer to Russia in return? Do they expect a blind Russian leadership, simply, cravenly, to hope to please the Rothschilds Rockefellers, Duponts, and other ruling Power Elite? Maybe the Zionists will promise not to Nuke Russia. Maybe they will allow Tsipras to mouth powerless and almost meaningless phrases of sympathy for Russia.
So far, the Russians have not fallen into this trap.
As for the Greek people, The Greek people must show the courage of Leonidas, and take the advice of Jefferson, and tell the Oligarchs to f— (I am only writing this much of the word, as it was once removed from an earlier missive) their IOUs. The rising Greek generation must be given a clean bill of health by the departing Greek generation.
As for the BBC article, only the Headline is worth reading.
In Conclusion: At the same time, the imperialist Bankers have allowed their puppets in Kiev to default on their debts. The American taxpayers pay for the war, as they pay for so many wars, and other nation’s Walls, and Land Thievery. However, there are only so many occasions the Oligarchs of the New World Order can repeat this financial farce. If Greece follows the Kiev Junta – in default, the combined default may be calamitous. Keynes understood, that if nations do not create wealth, or control colonies that have not yet been effectively looted, the loan and debt game becomes an end game.
As the piss hits the fan, What will we learn, and, what will “We the People” do?
The VISION is useful.
For the Democratic Republics!
For the Greek Democratic Republic! Free of debt. Free of fear. Free of the metal collar.
IMAGINE
Russia loaning hundreds of billions of dollars to Greece!! There was never any chance of that happening. Russia has neither the funds – nor inclination – to do that.
What it would be nice – and productive – to see would be Russia & China loaning Greece a bridging loan of a few billion to get Greece through the next couple of months.
What would be the conditions on that loan? That Greece do a full default to at least the ECB/EU (big payments in July & August due). There was never any prospect of any loan to Greece to pay off prior loans! That would be beyond stupid.
Are you for real?
It’s the complete opposite. Tsipras is one of Soros’s boys. He’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Alexander wrote a dead on article about that today:
Putin and Lavrov in talks with Tsipras in St. Petersburg
The great British historian AJP Taylor once said in my presence that Western politicians tend to think of Russia as a tap they can turn on and off whenever they like.
By that he meant that Western politicians expect Russia’s help when they need it, but never feel under any obligation to give anything back in return.
Taylor was speaking about the diplomacy that led to the Second World War. However it is starting to look as if the same is true of Greece’s Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras.
Tsipras was elected on a contradictory promise of ending austerity and keeping Greece in the eurozone.
He seems to have trusted in his own powers of persuasion — and the economic logic of his case — to achieve this remarkable feat. I am told by people in Greece who are in a position to know that he had — and has — no Plan B.
Tsipras’s faith in his success seems to have been based on a belief that European demands for austerity were a bluff and that Greece is too important to the euro project and in geopolitical terms for its expulsion from the eurozone to be considered.
This presumably is what lies behind the extraordinary game Tsipras has been playing with Moscow.
In January, immediately following his election, in a move that caused anxious buzzing in European capitals and which must have provoked interest in Moscow, Tsipras met with the Russian ambassador before any others.
His government then made known its concerns about the way in which the extension of EU sanctions against Russian individuals and companies was railroaded through later that month.
He then announced he was going to go to Moscow to meet Putin, and he duly did so in March.
As I have discussed previously (see “Grexit Looks Inevitable. But Greece Will Need Moscow’s Help”, Russia Insider, 27th April 2015) this visit led to expectations of financial deals and of a major gas pipeline agreement. Gazprom’s chief Alexei Miller went to Athens in April to negotiate it.
In the event nothing happened. Though I am told a deal that came with a $5 billion prepayment was ready for signature on 23rd April 2015, it went unsigned and Miller left Athens empty handed.
Here I should say that the gas pipeline offer the Russians made to Tsipras in April was intended to help Greece. It was not part of an elaborate play by the Russians in pursuit of some great gas pipeline strategy. As this is a complex point, I will discuss it in more detail in another article.
The Russians must have been annoyed to be stood up in this way, but characteristically they said nothing.
What followed must have annoyed them even more.
At the time of his trip to Moscow in March Tsipras led everyone to think he would attend the 9th May Victory Parade in Moscow.
This would have been an important symbolic act. Tsipras would have broken with the rest of the EU, which was boycotting the event.
Such a step would have been very popular in Greece. Attitudes to Russia in Greece are very positive. Most Greeks think of Russia as the fellow Orthodox country that liberated Greece from the Ottomans. Most Greeks — unlike many Europeans and Americans — are also fully aware of Russia’s immense contribution to the defeat of fascism in the Second World War.
Last but not least, many Greeks have family connections with Russia. Many were born there or have lived there. Those Greeks with such connections to Russia tend to view Russia very positively.
Without any clear explanation Tsipras then reversed himself and failed to go – something that provoked much more public criticism of him in Greece than it did in Russia.
Over the last 7 days the same pattern has repeated itself.
On Thursday Tsipras went to the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum – making him the only Western leader to do so.
There he met Putin again.
This time a gas deal of sorts was signed. The details however are vague and it looks less generous than the deal the Russians offered in March and April. It did not come with the offer of a $5 billion pre-payment that came with the offer made in April.
Meanwhile, at the same time as Tsipras was flying to St. Petersburg, Tsipras’s representative in Brussels was agreeing to an extension of EU sanctions against Russia (see “EU Extends Sanctions Against Russia”, Russia Insider, 18th June 2015 ). Tsipras himself tamely agreed to this at the European Council meeting on Monday.
At the same European Council meeting Tsipras capitulated in principle to all the demands the Europeans and the IMF made of him. Reversing what he promised at the time of his election, he agreed to an extension of austerity in return for more bailout money.
He has since found, in the classic scenario of someone being blackmailed, that his concessions were not enough, and have simply led to the blackmailer raising his demands.
The result is that not surprisingly Tsipras now looks like someone who has cut deals with the Russians he is not going to be able to honour (see “A New Problem for Athens: How to ‘Unpivot’ From Russia After Capitulating to the EU”, Russia Insider, 24th June 2015).
The Russians had almost certainly figured that out for themselves before Tsipras went to St. Petersburg, which is why the deal they offered Tsipras in St. Petersburg was less generous than the one they offered him in April.
This is poor diplomacy by any standard.
If Tsipras’s policy is to play the Russians and the Europeans off against each other, then it is a bad policy.
It has not panicked the Europeans into making concessions. It has made them angry, causing them to increase their demands even more.
As for the Russians, they must be getting increasingly fed up with someone who repeatedly takes them to the Church door – and then at the last moment runs away.
If Tsipras was not prepared to see through his moves to Moscow, then he should not have made them.
He would have been better off in that case going to Washington instead of Moscow. There is also much sympathy for Greece in Washington, and the U.S., unlike Russia, can put actual pressure on the IMF and EU to cut Greece some slack.
Instead, by making moves to Moscow that he repeatedly fails to see through, Tsipras has lost possible friends in Europe and the U.S., while putting Greece’s traditionally friendly relations with Russia in jeopardy.
Anyone who knows Russia knows the friendly feelings Russians have for Greece.
If a Grexit happens — which is very possible despite Tsipras’s latest concessions — Greece will need Russia’s help (see again “Grexit Looks Inevitable. But Greece Will Need Moscow’s Help”, Russia Insider, 27th April 2015).
Hopefully what frankly looks like a manipulative policy will not have soured Russian attitudes by then.
Thank You for this
absolutely beautiful analysis.
Could not agree more.
Ditto
Mr. ‘Anonymous’
Is who for real?
Can an “anonymous” be real?
“Its the complete opposite”
Opposite of what?
Some of your sentences are in error.
One example: “The result is that not surprisingly Tsipras now looks like someone who has cut deals with the Russians he is not going to be able to honour.”
One more time you are wrong. The one option Greeks, Iranians, Ukrainians, Chinese, even Americans, have is to honor agreements with the Russian government. Russia’s governments have an excellent record for honoring their agreements. They offered Yanukovich an excellent financial package deal. Russia can help the Greek people; but, the Greek people must help themselves, first.
Tsipras could honor a deal with non-imperialist Russia, and, or, China. He would lose his chance to be nominated for a Nobel Prize, but he would be kindly treated by history. If he is not careful, he will receive a nomination for the Quisling prize.
Mr Anonymous continues:
“At the same European Council meeting Tsipras capitulated in principle to all the demands the Europeans and the IMF made of him. Reversing what he promised at the time of his election, he agreed to an extension of austerity in return for more bailout money.”
Yes, “Tsipras capitulated in principle.” However, Greece has no more principle – $$ to to give to the imperialist IMF Bankers. Therefore Tsipras cannot please the EU Oligarchs, no matter how hard he crawls. Tsipras can no more capitulate in fact, than Poroshenko can. They have both given all their people have. As individuals, they have groveled to their masters. Poroshenko started groveling at an earlier date and the Ukrainian people are also paying with their lives.
Mr. anonymous continues:
“He would have been better off in that case going to Washington instead of Moscow. There is also much sympathy for Greece in Washington, and the U.S., unlike Russia, can put actual pressure on the IMF and EU to cut Greece some slack.”
Say what! “much more sympathy for Greece in Washington,” ??? Are you for real?
The American Oligarchs have no sympathy for anything other than their Bank Accounts. They had no sympathy for the Greek people when they installed the fascist Colonels Regime on them in 1967. The American Oligarchs have not changed their mode of behavior since, only worsened. The Americans have occupied Europe, and are now garrisoning it with Abrams tanks and Nuclear capable missiles.
All must obey!
There is need for discussion, but insults are counterproductive. If Taylor spoke in your presence, and you recall his words, then you are old enough to identify yourself.
For the Democratic Republics!
IMAGINE
31 Russian aid convoys… and not a single peep out of MSM’s gagged mouth.
Canada does not have right weapons to help Ukraine, defence minister reveals
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/kenney-says-canada-doesnt-have-the-right-weapons-to-give-ukraines-army/article25116785/
Jason Kenney is about as duplicitous a politican as is known but he’s smarter than his boss, Herr Harper, ROBC. In that respect I liken Kenney to Hermann Goering or Goebbels.
Anyone but the Harper regime on October 19, 2015
(Royal Order of the Broom Closet)
completely OT
http://rt.com/shows/in-the-now-summary/269764-putin-pharrell-rappers/
at 9:14
OMG OMG OMG
well, its great that the Saudis are being attacked on their own land…its even funny.
ISIL your day will come. We all feel the same towards you.
Syria: an important article from a master newsman, Robert Fisk. Hated by all Establishments. A treasure of exactitude and storytelling craftsmanship. A real old school journalist.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syrian-civil-war-damascus-clings-to-normal-life-amid-the-chaos-of-conflict-10318367.html
He will take you inside the society fighting for its life. Not much spin or ideology or coverup. He lays bare what it is to live or try to live in Syria today.
here’s an interesting headline ;
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-demonstrates-its-first-microwave-gun-that-can-disable-drones-and-missiles-from-up-to-six-miles-away-at-army2015-10323243.html
Dear The Saker,
Another “Islamist” attack in France:
http://rt.com/news/269896-islamist-attack-french-factory/
Rgds,
Veritas
Slightly off topic. But if anyone could help me understand why Putin is AGAIN delaying S300 deliveries to Iran, I’d greatly appreciate it. I’m not a big, Bilderburg/NWO conspiracist. Why does it seem Putin always sides with his enemies at the last minute concerning this issue? This is one I cannot figure out. Thanks.
Iran is co-ruled by the brits ever since the so-called revolution in late 70’s. It was MI-6 that brought mullahs into power and ever since, they are not much more than the “bad cop” role for the western cameras. In other words, Iranian government is not trustworthy at all.
Second point, the regime there is indeed interested in obliterating Israel and advertises it all the time in their media. Hundreds of original iranian articles available online to confirm that, just from the last decade alone.
Third, they support the well-known british terrorist outlet “Muslim Brotherhood”, for whatever reason. They strongly supported the Morsi takeover in Egypt, despite that he even wanted to send his army to fight (supposedly an Iranian ally) Assad’s Syria.
Thanks. Your first point is very interesting.
Who and where says the S300 is again being delayed?
Last I saw, about a week ago, and you may google it for yourself, there was an issue about a court case — Iran suing Russia for non-delivery (from the original cancellation years ago). This had to be withdrawn, and that happened last week.
On the technical side was the issue that the S300 of the original contract are no longer being made, and it would take time and money to reopen the production line just for this one order. So an agreement was reached that Russia would supply ANTSEY systems instead, which is an advanced upgraded version of the S300. These are in current manufacture, so delivery will be starting before the end of the year (which was the original time frame mentioned when the delivery was revived last month).
So, no extra delays. Just problems ironed out, to allow it to go ahead within the planned time frame, providing a better unit. If I were Iran I’d be quite happy with this.
NATO assists Moldova even though it is not a member……….Yesterday in Brussels, June 24, representatives of the Ministry of Defence of the Republic of Moldova and NATO adopted a package of documents, which include strengthening the defensive capabilities of the Republic of Moldova.
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said on this occasion that this package will help Moldova to strengthen the security and defense of its borders “of the potential threat from Russia.”
Also yesterday, at the headquarters of NATO’s Defence Minister Viorel Moldovan Cibotaru participated in the meeting of Defense Ministers of the bloc, although Moldova is not a member of the organization.
We remind you that the Republic of Moldova joined the program “Partnership for Peace” in 1994. The goal of accession has been to continually improve its own armed forces, as well as prepare an annual personnel and officers of the National Army.
http://www.anna-news.info/node/37355
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Deputies of the Kharkiv city council refused to consider the question of the recognition of Russia as “an aggressor”.
June 24 MP Dmitry Marinin during the session said that “insisting that the agenda included a question on the support of the Verkhovna Rada, and on the recognition of Russia as the aggressor.”
However, the mayor Gennady Kernes urged to vote for the already established agenda and refused Marinin.
Alla Alexander, First Secretary of the Kharkiv Regional Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine: “If any country is called an aggressor, then after that, and it is logical to declare a state of war with this country. How can you recognize the aggressor country and not to take any further decisions? So yes, I think that the deputies of the city council, sane people, they are well aware that this is just a PR move of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. They are the “game” is, of course, in inverted commas game decided not to play, and took absolutely correct and reasonable position ”
http://www.anna-news.info/node/37350
but this has got them into trouble before..
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As the executive director of the European Business Association (EBA) Anna Derevianko, during a meeting with Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk and members of the Cabinet, structural reforms in Ukraine will not occur.
“Appreciable improvement has not occurred, the reform as such is not happening, deep structural reforms in Georgia and Central Europe, there is no” – she said.
Derevyanko pointed to the absence of an effective fight against corruption and systemic changes in the quality of public administration, promote meager salaries of government officials of corruption, outdated regulations of the Cabinet of Ministers and insufficient powers to solve business problems, cumbersome approval procedure documents, contraband and “gray” imports, and so on. ”
http://www.anna-news.info/node/37349
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Given the current level of oil prices, Russia can not provide the former discount on gas Ukraine.
The President believes that the price of gas for Ukraine should be at the level of other countries.
http://www.anna-news.info/node?page=2
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Swiss journalists shocked outrage at the borders of Ukraine Donbass. Swiss journalists become unwitting witnesses of what has become the south-east of Ukraine. After the adoption of the decision of the Kiev authorities to strengthen border controls and introduce an economic blockade on the region’s roads in the DNI and LC were numerous PPC, and with them – corruption, smuggling and excesses committed by Ukrainian terroristami.
http://www.anna-news.info/node?page=1
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Alexis Miroshnichenko, former employee of the Foreign Intelligence Service of Ukraine, who went to the people of Donbass, gave new information.
http://www.anna-news.info/node/37402
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Border Service of Ukraine has banned the deputy of the Parliament of Flanders Frank Kreylmanu entry into the country for three years. Kreylman together with other human rights activists had planned to visit the arrested journalists in Odessa.
According to the newspaper “Izvestia”, similar to the entry was forbidden and Georgian defender Mamuka Zanduleki. The activists arrived to Odessa with the aim to inspect the conditions of detention of the arrested journalists and Helena Artem Buzilov Glischinskoy-Romanova.
http://www.anna-news.info/node/37424
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OSCE observers registered movement of heavy military equipment of Ukrainian Armed Forces nearby Mariupol
Donetsk, June 25, the Donetsk News Agency
Members of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission in Ukraine registered the movement of three 120-mm howitzers near the disengagement line in the Kiev-controlled territory of Donbass, claims the Mission’s recent report…
25th June 2015, city Kharkov, occupied Kharkov republic
New level of terror by Kiev junta was reached. Kiev junta fascists during this evening shooting toward passenger buses on 3 different streets, are casualites.
The first incident occurred at five o’clock in the evening on the street of Chkalov. was shooting from Jeep toward city minibus №241. According to preliminary information, were wounded man and a woman by glass shards
truth ukraine facebook
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Donetsk, June 25, the Donetsk News Agency
Fighting between the Armed Forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic and Ukrainian forces occurred last night in the area of Maryinka, told Head of the DPR Aleksandr Zakharchenko the journalists.
“Last night fighting was underway in the area of Maryinka”, — Head of the Republic said.
and
Donetsk, June 26, the Donetsk News Agency
Donbass is on the verge of hostilities resumption, – such is the opinion expressed by Speaker of the DPR People’s Council Andrey Purgin.
“The situation right now is very complicated, it is heating up. Heavy artillery is being used; residential areas of Donetsk, Gorlovka and Yenakiyevo have been shelled. The military situation is aggravating, and we are balancing on the verge of full-scale hostilities resumption”, — he remarked.
novorossiya today
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Yerevan police identified a Ukrainian provocateur at the rally in the capital of Armenia
on: June 25, 2015
Yerevan police detained a provocateur in Bagramyan avenue – a woman of Ukrainian citizenship, reported the executive head of Armenian police Unan Pogosyan.
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“Scott Rickard: Well, it’s public information. You have the folks at the National Endowment for Democracy who have been doing this since the unfortunate overthrow of your grandfather [Eduard Shevardnadze, former president of Georgia – Ed.]. The Rose Revolution – there were, at least, thousand NGOs operating in Georgia at the time, in the early 2000s, that were very responsible for the opposition movements that happened in Georgia. This has been the ‘color revolutions’ that started pretty much alongside of George Soros and all of the other folks that have been involved along the way. It’s something that has become sort of status quo with American manipulation of foreign governments. It’s not something that comes as a surprise to me.”
ex security agent in interview with Sophie Shevarnaze
http://rt.com/shows/sophieco/ukraine-revolution-usa-support-246/
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MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The establishment of an international tribunal on last year’s downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 in eastern Ukraine would be untimely and counterproductive, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov said Friday.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20150626/1023880707.html#ixzz3eAS9GVYa
wait until end of investigation he says
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“Jenkins will lead a US interagency delegation to Kiev, Ukraine, June 25–26, to discuss the G7 Global Partnership Against the Spread of Weapons and Materials of Mass Destruction (Global Partnership) efforts in biosecurity, biosafety and nuclear and radiological security in Ukraine,” the release read on Thursday.
The State Department noted the engagement with Ukrainian officials will be led by Germany, and will include Global Partnership members Canada and The Netherlands.
http://en.voicesevas.ru/news/6115-senior-us-official-to-address-weapons-of-mass-destruction-issue-in-kiev.html
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KIEV, June 24. /TASS/. Ukraine’s parliamentary faction Opposition Bloc on Wednesday expressed support for efforts of Russian, German, French and Ukrainian foreign ministers to achieve full implementation of ceasefire agreements reached in February and called on Kiev authorities to start carrying out its obligations under the deal signed in the Belarusian capital of Minsk.
“We have no choice — either Ukraine puts an end to war or war will put an end to Ukraine,” the Opposition Bloc said in a statement.
“Leaders of ‘the war coalition’ will be held accountable — to the extent of facing trial at the Hague tribunal — for sustaining the blockade of the Donbas region and stalling on the Minsk deal, which brings Ukraine new human losses every day,” the statement said.”
http://en.voicesevas.ru/news/6102-ukraine-opposition-wants-hague-tribunal-for-those-guilty-of-blockade-in-east.html
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Ukrainian burned Crimea resident alive for St. George ribbon in the suburbs of Moscow….
The US Embassy in Kiev spilled with blood.
Ukrainians brought blood and meat symbolizing the millions of victims of various countries where the United States have invaded under the bloody sauce of democracy.
http://en.voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/6111-the-war-in-novorossia-online-06252015-chronicle.html
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MOSCOW, June 26. /TASS/. Donbas is on the brink of resuming military actions, the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republics (DPR) people’s council speaker Andrey Purgin said on Friday.
“The situation today is very complicated, it is deteriorating, heavy weaponry is used, residential areas in Donetsk, Gorlovka and Yenakiyevo were shelled. The military situation is on the rise, and we are balancing on the brink of full-scae military actions,” the Donestk News Agency quoted Purgin as saying.
Purgin said he hopes that interference of Western countries will not escalate tensions even further. “I hope that they will not interfere. It is clear that the United States interfere in all conflicts in the world, but I hope that other countries will try not to interfere into this conflict on the side of one of its participants,” the speaker noted.
http://tass.ru/en/world/804165
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IEV, June 25. /TASS/. The adoption of a new Ukrainian constitution in conditions of Donbas blockade entails its illegitimacy and continuation of war, Ukraine’s Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary, merited legal expert of the country Alexander Chaly said Thursday.
“When we are building the ‘Wall of Yatsenyuk’ in the east and want to adopt a legitimate constitution, a question arises for what Ukraine we are adopting it. It can’t be legitimate when people in the east can’t take part in its development,” Chaly said at a press conference in Kiev.
http://tass.ru/en/world/804020
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MOSCOW, June 26. /TASS/. The leader of Russia’s parliamentary lower house said on Friday that the European Union’s decision to extend economic sanctions against Russia represented a direct violation of a United Nations Security Council resolution.
Speaking at an Open Tribune session at the State Duma, Speaker Sergey Naryshkin said that European Union governments were “sabotaging” Ukraine peace agreements reached in the Belarusian capital Minsk in February, which “have in fact become part of one of the UN Security Council resolutions
http://tass.ru/en/russia/804161
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CHISINAU, June 15. /TASS/. Current tensions in Moldova’s economy and society may erupt into mass protests and destabilization of the situation, the leader of the oppositionist Communist Party, former President Vladimir Voronin said on Thursday at a meeting with heads of diplomatic legations in Chisinau,
http://tass.ru/en/world/804057
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MOSCOW, June 25. /TASS/. The Russian Government extended counter-sanctions against EU countries, the US, Canada, Australia and Norway through August 5, 2016, according to the government resolution.
http://tass.ru/en/russia/803978
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