Sounds like OSCE is doing a bang up job. They should kick this sham org out of the Donbass and invite in Polite Green Men. I’m sure that would end the shelling.
In fact, there should be an NGO called Polite Green Men. It could solve the Turkey-Syria border problem, and a few other hot spots really quick.
Looks like the US has put even more sanctions on Russia – and it isn’t because of the veto on MH17 ;( (also today several non EU Eu countries also agreed to sanction Russia) :
Sorry to say, “they never learn” because they suffer no negative consequences on such actions so far. I don’t know what Russia should do, but so long as such actions do not lead to negative consequences, it’ll just be “more of the same”.
The other Yukos seizures were very quietly dropped after a couple of weeks. The French know that there really are negative consequences for this – they are generalized throughout the world, and will be reflected in commercial dealings, arms purchases, trust in French diplomacy and courts, and the like. And that silly EU court with its phony grounds for jurisdiction is getting increasingly discredited. Maybe one day it comes to a showdown, over the right cause and in the right glare of publicity. Russia chooses when.
Personally I have no argument with that – I don’t wish for Russia’s actions to become too transparent. I have no fear that she will allow a genuine harm to go unpunished. Much of her energy is quite sensibly devoted to moving the caravan on, while the dogs exhaust theirs with barking.
I know what Russia should do.But as long as they fear to get tough they won’t do it.When a new government comes to power that will change.But by then the need won’t be to get “tough”,it will be to get “cruel”,a big difference.But by then needed.
There is no fear about “getting tough”, strategy requires thinking things out ahead of time and choosing one’s battles. Not letting the enemy determine one’s moves, the zionazis/nazis have been running these provocations in order to funnel Russia into THEIR strategy. There is no reason for Russia to play along with this zionazi/nazi horseshit, they got better things to do than be psychologically handled toys of the ZPC/NWO.
We want to believe that I know.Hopefully it is true.We shall see in the fullness of time.If it is not true.Then the response when it comes will be stern.And sadly ,with little or no mercy involved.
Ukraine trying to prosecute Russian officials for prosecuting a murderess the Ukies want freed.
“There is nothing unusual in the actions of Ukraine’s Prosecutor General’s Office. They are a reflection of the authorities of a country that is going down the drain,” Markin said in a comment on Ukraine’s Prosecutor General’s Office decision to prosecute seven members of the Russian Investigative Committee and the Russian court for violations in handling the case of Nadezhda Savchenko, the former Ukraine army officer who is currently pending trial in Russia’s southern Rostov region.”
The article goes on:
“When helpless peaceful civilians are burnt alive in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa, when embassies are being stormed and journalists and clergymen killed and when calls to murder and incitement of inter-ethnic hatred are being encouraged in the eyes of the whole world, and all this goes with impunity – then there is nothing to be surprised at,” Markin went on to say.
“Instead of investigating all the mayhem which has been under way in Ukraine, they have raised a person /Nadezhda Savchenko/ responsible for the death of Russian nationals to the rank of hero,” the Russian Investigative Committee’s spokesperson said.
“All this is the result of the atmosphere of hatred and Russophobia, which the ‘revolution of dignity’ has brought with it. They are the well-deserved followers of Stepan Bandera!” Markin stressed.
Someone please bring this Ukrainian tragicomedy to a close. Please end this travesty in Kiev.
It is a disgrace to all humanity and civilization that Ukraine and the junta leading it is allowed to exist. End it as a country/nation, as a putsch junta government, as a criminal conspiracy, as a corrupt gang of murderers and thieves. Just end it.
From time to time the world has to suffer Idi Amins, Robert Mugabes and the like. But this is the 21st Century and we deserve to rid ourselves of such a fecal heap as Glorious Ukraine.
.. and of the 34 Aid convoys that have reached the Donbass over the past year [gifts from Russia] western MSM has mentioned the first 2 and fallen silent. As far as I know, it has only been the Russian Red Cross that has taken notice of the dire situation in both republics. The rest… well…
I wonder if this is reported in France? Doubtful,with that government being a US stooge its unlikely the French MSM would dare report Ukrainian threats against their people:
“Bombard the French Embassy! Crimea visit of French MPs draws anti-France rant on Kiev TV.”
Kiev political analyst suggests firing on the French Embassy with mortars and grenade launchers.
That’s the suggestion of Ukrainian political analyst Oleg Soskin after the visit of French parliamentarians to the Crimea.
“Today, in Ukraine, there are thousands of Frenchmen. If they all want to make trouble for themselves, please let them try again to come to Crimea. If it interests them so much, our guys could set mortars or grenade launchers at the French Embassy. People could lose patience and seize that embassy, as they may have a hard time tolerating the insolence they just committed, daring such a thing.
“It’s just spitting on the soul of all Ukrainians. It’s as if the Islamic State occupied France’s Champagne District and began to produce French champagne with the Mujahedeen,” said the analyst on TV channel Dozhd.
Theoretically, anyone acting on the suggestion of the political analyst would face scant consequence: Given the peculiarities of Ukrainian proceedings, the charge for firing a grenade launcher in downtown Kiev comes under the heading of “hooliganism.”
Now the Ukies are going to get a vote in the General Assembly of the UN for the Tribunal.
It will take two-thirds vote to support the farce.
How many small nations will be lining their pockets with US dollars to vote for this?
The Dance Macabre of the MH-17 goes on.
A nation murdering priests and nuns and journalists, torturing and raping and selling human organs has the standing to request a Tribunal to hang the downing of the airliner on the innocent.
Hopefully they will fail.But if they do manage to succeed.As the poor Palestinians have found out countless times a General Assembly vote is non-binding.Only a UNSC vote counts.
Will the Greek Left Unite to Oppose Austerity?
Dr. Panagiotis Sotiris, member of Antarsya, talks to Dimitri Lascaris about Syriza’s failure to implement its anti-austerity program and the political options that are now available to the left in Greece – July 27, 2015
[…]
Varoufakis Sued for Alleged Treason While Syriza’s Left Platform Is Accused of Conspiracy
Dimitri Lascaris reports on the charges against Varoufakis and critiques the media for engaging in a smear campaign that accuses the former energy minister Lafazanis and the leaders of the Left Platform of being covert plotters – July 29, 2015
[…]
To sue the Finance minister for treason for try to access tax base records and plan a parallel currency in case of crisis of banks closing is absurd, of course.
When force won’t do at the time, the fascists use farce.
It looks like Varoufakis and Tsipras discovered the same thing that I discovered when I served in the US government. The financial accounting and payment systems are controlled by corporations who do not take their orders from government officials. The government pays the corporations but they do not control them.
No info-sovereignty, means NO sovereignty.
Varoufakis was ready to start parallel banking system by hacking Greek tax department
The reasons Greece may not have an exit plan ready to go – if only for negotiation purposes – are becoming clearer.
This secrecy is fairly standard operating procedure for corporations and fascists, who work on controlling governments. You see it in pharmaceutical companies which don’t release test data to regulatory agencies too.
So the Ukies let drones fly over Donetsk? Why not let some Pantsir systems to wipe them out?
Let’s not panic, those drones are a replacement for manned aircraft, which Novorussians have shown the orcs to be near suicidal. BTW, “So the Ukies let drones fly over Donetsk?”, interesting pov terminology there.
A comment from a Russian on the MH17 vote in the UN.And on the feelings mounting in Russia on Ukraine I saw on FB:
“Watched as representatives of the country in which the army killed more than 6,000 civilians, 70 children, the country in which dozens of dissidents being driven into the building and burned like insects – in righteous anger require Tribunal for the aircraft which they themselves had brought down. I listen to their pathetic rotten in the UN building, broadcast to foreign media reports, I look at the sad Being “strong determination to condemn the barbaric crime” e & ala … There children were killed! Yes, it’s damn-it, the greatest tragedy in the history of mankind! Downed Boeing. Russia will not leave the answer! Tribunal !!! The entire civilized world of the Tribunal!
At such moments, I realize that a matter of honor for Russia should not become “a peaceful solution to Ukrainian domestic conflict” and the complete destruction of this criminal state. And the tribunal. For thousands killed, repressed, for children, women, for people with disabilities. For Odessa Khatyn.
What is the basis of the ideology of Russian World? Justice. If the greatest evil go unpunished if the blood of thousands of people remain nevinnoubiennyh Russian neotmschёnnoy, and if it is a small state, the hyena will be able to continue their bloody teeth grin from behind the high gentleman in an expensive suit – that all this worthless Russian “spirituality” and “Russian world”.
“Donbass Russia owes nothing.” Yes, and it is not necessary. You do not think about the Donbass, and its national dignity. The matter had long been in the Donbass. And that – whether it will be able to make the state respect not only of enemies, not only allies, but also their own compatriots, which, according to the country, are part of the so-called “Russian World”.
Making respect themselves can only state that does not allow itself to humiliate.
Do not allow to kill their fellow citizens.”
Czech MEP Jaromír Štětina, has invited Andriy Bliletskyk, member of the Ukrainian Azov battalion, to speak in the European Parliament. Bliletskyk is also a Ukrainian deputy.
Neo-Nazi members of the battalion have “tremendous military forces”, the Czech deputy said. Azov battalion´s exit from the Ukraine war “would obstruct efforts to end the conflict in Donbass”, according to Štětina.
Azov battalion consists of about 300 members, including many from European countries, who go as volunteer soldiers.
Spaniards in the Azov battalion
One of the comrades arrested by the Spanish police last March for participate in Ukraine´s anti-fascist groups, said that in the Azov battalion took part several Spaniards, in statements to the Russian media Sputnik.
As Hector Arroyo, a young who have taken part in anti-fascist militia, has denounced “Spaniards who took part in the Azov battalion have not been arrested, the Spanish government has to protect the Kiev authorities, sending military supplies.”
Kiev generals have Facebook problem:
http://fortruss.blogspot.com.au/2015/07/ukraines-general-staff-bans-facebook-to.html
Sounds like OSCE is doing a bang up job. They should kick this sham org out of the Donbass and invite in Polite Green Men. I’m sure that would end the shelling.
In fact, there should be an NGO called Polite Green Men. It could solve the Turkey-Syria border problem, and a few other hot spots really quick.
Looks like the US has put even more sanctions on Russia – and it isn’t because of the veto on MH17 ;( (also today several non EU Eu countries also agreed to sanction Russia) :
http://www.rt.com/business/311201-us-expands-russia-sanctions/
Also the French have seized a Russian state owned building in Paris due to Yukos – will they never learn?:
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150730/1025219482.html
Sorry to say, “they never learn” because they suffer no negative consequences on such actions so far. I don’t know what Russia should do, but so long as such actions do not lead to negative consequences, it’ll just be “more of the same”.
The other Yukos seizures were very quietly dropped after a couple of weeks. The French know that there really are negative consequences for this – they are generalized throughout the world, and will be reflected in commercial dealings, arms purchases, trust in French diplomacy and courts, and the like. And that silly EU court with its phony grounds for jurisdiction is getting increasingly discredited. Maybe one day it comes to a showdown, over the right cause and in the right glare of publicity. Russia chooses when.
Personally I have no argument with that – I don’t wish for Russia’s actions to become too transparent. I have no fear that she will allow a genuine harm to go unpunished. Much of her energy is quite sensibly devoted to moving the caravan on, while the dogs exhaust theirs with barking.
I know what Russia should do.But as long as they fear to get tough they won’t do it.When a new government comes to power that will change.But by then the need won’t be to get “tough”,it will be to get “cruel”,a big difference.But by then needed.
There is no fear about “getting tough”, strategy requires thinking things out ahead of time and choosing one’s battles. Not letting the enemy determine one’s moves, the zionazis/nazis have been running these provocations in order to funnel Russia into THEIR strategy. There is no reason for Russia to play along with this zionazi/nazi horseshit, they got better things to do than be psychologically handled toys of the ZPC/NWO.
great comment BT
We want to believe that I know.Hopefully it is true.We shall see in the fullness of time.If it is not true.Then the response when it comes will be stern.And sadly ,with little or no mercy involved.
Ukraine trying to prosecute Russian officials for prosecuting a murderess the Ukies want freed.
“There is nothing unusual in the actions of Ukraine’s Prosecutor General’s Office. They are a reflection of the authorities of a country that is going down the drain,” Markin said in a comment on Ukraine’s Prosecutor General’s Office decision to prosecute seven members of the Russian Investigative Committee and the Russian court for violations in handling the case of Nadezhda Savchenko, the former Ukraine army officer who is currently pending trial in Russia’s southern Rostov region.”
The article goes on:
“When helpless peaceful civilians are burnt alive in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa, when embassies are being stormed and journalists and clergymen killed and when calls to murder and incitement of inter-ethnic hatred are being encouraged in the eyes of the whole world, and all this goes with impunity – then there is nothing to be surprised at,” Markin went on to say.
“Instead of investigating all the mayhem which has been under way in Ukraine, they have raised a person /Nadezhda Savchenko/ responsible for the death of Russian nationals to the rank of hero,” the Russian Investigative Committee’s spokesperson said.
“All this is the result of the atmosphere of hatred and Russophobia, which the ‘revolution of dignity’ has brought with it. They are the well-deserved followers of Stepan Bandera!” Markin stressed.
http://tass.ru/en/world/811746
Someone please bring this Ukrainian tragicomedy to a close. Please end this travesty in Kiev.
It is a disgrace to all humanity and civilization that Ukraine and the junta leading it is allowed to exist. End it as a country/nation, as a putsch junta government, as a criminal conspiracy, as a corrupt gang of murderers and thieves. Just end it.
From time to time the world has to suffer Idi Amins, Robert Mugabes and the like. But this is the 21st Century and we deserve to rid ourselves of such a fecal heap as Glorious Ukraine.
.. and of the 34 Aid convoys that have reached the Donbass over the past year [gifts from Russia] western MSM has mentioned the first 2 and fallen silent. As far as I know, it has only been the Russian Red Cross that has taken notice of the dire situation in both republics. The rest… well…
I wonder if this is reported in France? Doubtful,with that government being a US stooge its unlikely the French MSM would dare report Ukrainian threats against their people:
“Bombard the French Embassy! Crimea visit of French MPs draws anti-France rant on Kiev TV.”
Kiev political analyst suggests firing on the French Embassy with mortars and grenade launchers.
That’s the suggestion of Ukrainian political analyst Oleg Soskin after the visit of French parliamentarians to the Crimea.
“Today, in Ukraine, there are thousands of Frenchmen. If they all want to make trouble for themselves, please let them try again to come to Crimea. If it interests them so much, our guys could set mortars or grenade launchers at the French Embassy. People could lose patience and seize that embassy, as they may have a hard time tolerating the insolence they just committed, daring such a thing.
“It’s just spitting on the soul of all Ukrainians. It’s as if the Islamic State occupied France’s Champagne District and began to produce French champagne with the Mujahedeen,” said the analyst on TV channel Dozhd.
Theoretically, anyone acting on the suggestion of the political analyst would face scant consequence: Given the peculiarities of Ukrainian proceedings, the charge for firing a grenade launcher in downtown Kiev comes under the heading of “hooliganism.”
As reported RusNekst earlier, during a recent visit to the Crimea, French Senate deputies reported that the situation on the peninsula is radically different from what the European media have been saying.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/07/bombard-french-embassy-crimea-visit-of.html
Now the Ukies are going to get a vote in the General Assembly of the UN for the Tribunal.
It will take two-thirds vote to support the farce.
How many small nations will be lining their pockets with US dollars to vote for this?
The Dance Macabre of the MH-17 goes on.
A nation murdering priests and nuns and journalists, torturing and raping and selling human organs has the standing to request a Tribunal to hang the downing of the airliner on the innocent.
Makes me puke!
Hopefully they will fail.But if they do manage to succeed.As the poor Palestinians have found out countless times a General Assembly vote is non-binding.Only a UNSC vote counts.
OT — although Ukraine is spoken of a little in the report, regarding it’s impact on Greek exports.
Several new reports about Greece here.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14344
Will the Greek Left Unite to Oppose Austerity?
Dr. Panagiotis Sotiris, member of Antarsya, talks to Dimitri Lascaris about Syriza’s failure to implement its anti-austerity program and the political options that are now available to the left in Greece – July 27, 2015
[…]
Also
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14366
Varoufakis Sued for Alleged Treason While Syriza’s Left Platform Is Accused of Conspiracy
Dimitri Lascaris reports on the charges against Varoufakis and critiques the media for engaging in a smear campaign that accuses the former energy minister Lafazanis and the leaders of the Left Platform of being covert plotters – July 29, 2015
[…]
To sue the Finance minister for treason for try to access tax base records and plan a parallel currency in case of crisis of banks closing is absurd, of course.
When force won’t do at the time, the fascists use farce.
Blue, did you see this ?
By Catherine Austin Fitts
It looks like Varoufakis and Tsipras discovered the same thing that I discovered when I served in the US government. The financial accounting and payment systems are controlled by corporations who do not take their orders from government officials. The government pays the corporations but they do not control them.
No info-sovereignty, means NO sovereignty.
Varoufakis was ready to start parallel banking system by hacking Greek tax department
The reasons Greece may not have an exit plan ready to go – if only for negotiation purposes – are becoming clearer.
I saw part and a reference to it somewhere.
This secrecy is fairly standard operating procedure for corporations and fascists, who work on controlling governments. You see it in pharmaceutical companies which don’t release test data to regulatory agencies too.
So the Ukies let drones fly over Donetsk? Why not let some Pantsir systems to wipe them out?
Let’s not panic, those drones are a replacement for manned aircraft, which Novorussians have shown the orcs to be near suicidal. BTW, “So the Ukies let drones fly over Donetsk?”, interesting pov terminology there.
A comment from a Russian on the MH17 vote in the UN.And on the feelings mounting in Russia on Ukraine I saw on FB:
“Watched as representatives of the country in which the army killed more than 6,000 civilians, 70 children, the country in which dozens of dissidents being driven into the building and burned like insects – in righteous anger require Tribunal for the aircraft which they themselves had brought down. I listen to their pathetic rotten in the UN building, broadcast to foreign media reports, I look at the sad Being “strong determination to condemn the barbaric crime” e & ala … There children were killed! Yes, it’s damn-it, the greatest tragedy in the history of mankind! Downed Boeing. Russia will not leave the answer! Tribunal !!! The entire civilized world of the Tribunal!
At such moments, I realize that a matter of honor for Russia should not become “a peaceful solution to Ukrainian domestic conflict” and the complete destruction of this criminal state. And the tribunal. For thousands killed, repressed, for children, women, for people with disabilities. For Odessa Khatyn.
What is the basis of the ideology of Russian World? Justice. If the greatest evil go unpunished if the blood of thousands of people remain nevinnoubiennyh Russian neotmschёnnoy, and if it is a small state, the hyena will be able to continue their bloody teeth grin from behind the high gentleman in an expensive suit – that all this worthless Russian “spirituality” and “Russian world”.
“Donbass Russia owes nothing.” Yes, and it is not necessary. You do not think about the Donbass, and its national dignity. The matter had long been in the Donbass. And that – whether it will be able to make the state respect not only of enemies, not only allies, but also their own compatriots, which, according to the country, are part of the so-called “Russian World”.
Making respect themselves can only state that does not allow itself to humiliate.
Do not allow to kill their fellow citizens.”
Meanwhile…….at the height of impudence:
“Ukriainian neonazi invited to European Parliament”
http://euskalherria-donbas.org/2015/07/31/neonazi-ukraniar-bat-europar-parlamentuan-gonbidatuta/
Czech MEP Jaromír Štětina, has invited Andriy Bliletskyk, member of the Ukrainian Azov battalion, to speak in the European Parliament. Bliletskyk is also a Ukrainian deputy.
Neo-Nazi members of the battalion have “tremendous military forces”, the Czech deputy said. Azov battalion´s exit from the Ukraine war “would obstruct efforts to end the conflict in Donbass”, according to Štětina.
Azov battalion consists of about 300 members, including many from European countries, who go as volunteer soldiers.
Spaniards in the Azov battalion
One of the comrades arrested by the Spanish police last March for participate in Ukraine´s anti-fascist groups, said that in the Azov battalion took part several Spaniards, in statements to the Russian media Sputnik.
As Hector Arroyo, a young who have taken part in anti-fascist militia, has denounced “Spaniards who took part in the Azov battalion have not been arrested, the Spanish government has to protect the Kiev authorities, sending military supplies.”