In a bright and also sad story,little Vanya and his mother were given Russian citizenship.President Putin signed the award giving them citizenship.So they never have to worry about returning to the site of the crime that shattered their lives.
This only seems to be an off topic post:
but think twice what this means for Russia, for Europe it is clear.
There will be a lot of Vanyas… http://truehorn.livejournal.com/42213.html
(I strongly recommend for translation,
Mr. Saker please have a look at least,
could be useful in some of your next analysis).
Interesting what Yats says about it.
Sounds like he doesn’t want to stay alive any longer, and if you consider how many fully armed zombies run around in Kiev, this could lead to a tragedy (such as Iraq scenario with daily bomb attacks on crowded places).
Excerpt: “””””First of all, I would like to express condolences to the family of Ihor Debrin, who was killed by mobs, I emphasize – by mobs – in clashes near the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
All the wounded will receive both moneyed and medical assistance: all our soldiers, all law enforcement officers, the National Guard officers and persons who have suffered as a result of a crime committed by certain political forces.
These political forces haven’t come to defend the Constitution, but to rape the Constitution and Ukraine. And, actually, they are worse than Russian gangsters and terrorists in the East. Those don’t hide that they are at war with Ukraine. However, these hiding behind the slogans of patriotism and love for Ukraine are destroying Ukrainian statehood.”””””
“I’ll take a bullet to the forehead from the snipers on Mai-
Run!!! They started shooting.., I think…” variety?
We should also not forget the fact that, back in 2013, Mrs. Nuland/Kagan already knew who would be in the Kiev saddle on a horse stampeding towards the East, come 2014.
That’s all one has to know about unca Sammy’s real take on democracy.
It would not be “funny” either way.
Many good people are trapped in Western Ukraine.
And especially in Kiev many still speak real (East-)Russian, not the funny dialect (that one is indeed funny).
“”””””Not only executors will be punished. Not only those, who used grenades, machine guns and baseball bats, but also their organizers and political customers,””””””
This all stinks like CIA’s handwriting to start the 2nd front for real. Which might mark the beginning of extremely terrible bloodshed not seen in history for 70 years :(
All the recent odd explosions inside China together – no way that this is a coincidence.
Found the following quote in ZH’s comments section:
“””””One of the most effective forms of industrial or military sabotage limits itself to damage that can never be thoroughly proven—or even proven at all—to be anything deliberate. It is like an invisible political movement; perhaps it isn’t there at all. If a bomb is wired to a car’s ignition, then obviously there is an enemy; if public building or a political headquarters is blown up, then there is a political enemy. But if an accident, or a series of accidents, occurs, if equipment merely fails to function, if it appears faulty, especially in a slow fashion, over a period of natural time, with numerous small failures and misfirings—then the victim, whether a person or a party or a country, can never marshal itself to defend itself.
— Philip K Dick”””””
I presume you (commenters and readers) are aware that Kievian’s are full on blaming Russia for this uprising.
The Grenade thrown was Russian made you know :-)))
It is not necessarily like shouting — it is also like italics, both indicating a change in inflection of voice. I personally feel lost without them, but lo!
Not all of us!! . . . . . but I’ll admit a distressingly high number.. 2B expected I guess in a country enarmoured with that smirking globalist Key. As an aside I’ve managed to get upwards of a half dozen people engaged in conversations about Novorussya / Ukraine by flying a 9th May orange & black Victory ribbon I got from the RF consulate in Canberra, on my car aerial. They have asked what “team” the colours represent & that gets the conversation going. It is hard not to shake my head in incredulity that that’s how a conversation is initiated, but in the interests of informing my fellow man I force myself to be civil ‹(•¿•)›
“””””Understandably, some people in Moscow are quite anxious because they did not get what they want.
[…]
The draft constitutional amendments do not foresee special status for particular districts of Donetsk and Luhansk regions. This, in my view, is just a cliché that certain political parties employed as election strategy, an element of the dishonest information campaign against the Constitution and against the president.
Moreover, we are crossing out a clause that allows an illusory opportunity for special status in Article 92 of the Constitution of Ukraine. This was done in order to eliminate any kind of legalistic ways to prevent the emergence of numerous fiefdoms.”””””
Now, Kiev, OSCE and all of the West always claim that there are and were no MINSK2 vilolations by Kiev’s side in Donbass on the ground, that the Separatists were shooting themselves and blah blah blah.
But what about this! Yet another time this scumbag publicly says that there won’t ever be any special status for Donbass (there are other videos where he said this directly into the cameras last spring). He probably wants to be seen by his fellow Nazis as being “outstandingly extra-Patriotic”.
Isn’t that a clear undeniable violation of M2???
What is Moscow waiting for?
Interesting user comment at ZH concerning China explosions, West’s influence in China, Russia, Putin. Maybe worth to be shared. Please extra-verify:
Joseph Gallager has posted several compelling clips with numerous links that paint a credible explanation that is not ‘rod of god’. Conclusion? Internal power struggle. First of 7 linked below. Worth a watch.
“While many conspiracy theorists think that America blasted China with some satellite or other advanced weapon, the damage at the scene reveals a mini-nuclear event, thus ruling out even the Mossad (for China is locked tight). As of Aug 23rd, the nation has experienced 3 explosions at 3 different warehouses storing chemicals; and the Tianjin event was clearly an act of terrorism, but who is responsible? the current government of Xi Jinping? His government’s reticence seemingly betrays their guilt, but in fact, former president Jiang Zemin’s faction carried out the attack. ”
I would not rule out ANYTHING that fits into the theory of Pike/Massini’s alleged WW3 letter (not proven: http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/01/10/albert-pike-to-mazzini-augus…). This kind of ‘unattributable sabotage’, if that’s what it is, would be the expected hot foreplay to WW3. Can NOT OVERLOOK the ‘PTB’ involvement in the opening up and financing of CONtemporary China from Kissinger/Nixon fwd. Think strategic pre-planned and pre-planted means of implosion, think thermite in a steel framed building that you’d want to ‘pull’ for an insurance claim and to terrorise sheople. US vs BRICS is the last thesis/antithesis>synthesis to occur before Extatic One World Citizenism under Eternal Dear Leaderness. Excellent research here:
Thanks Ann, The Unknown Putin (Neisvestny Putin) by Pravda.ru is really one of the most important videos, you are right. I know it from earlier and sometimes posted it here in the past. One has to be careful, because there are disinfo videos with similar titles.
Here is the good version:
The Unknown Putin. Part 1
Pravda (English) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCU4C6ajgBI&list=PL36lqR9B_gXeCDecMe9uk5EIkm7liQ7ci
But last night I really only re-shared the ZH user comment minutes before falling asleep.
On one hand I wanted to point to it, on the other couldn’t co-author or much verify it anymore. That’s why I said in my post _please extra verify_.
But good to see your message now.
Thanks also for your second video.
I’m aware that Putin lived and worked in GDR for some years (as KGB agent in Dresden) but I didn’t know this clip before. At 0:15 you see the first point where the border between East- and West Germany was opened on November 9th 1989 at the border crossing Bornholmer Strasse in Berlin. I grew up 1km east of this location (now live 14 km _east_ of it) And on this day I was one of the naive idiots on this bridge who celebrated the opening and were unbelievably happy like in heaven that we could visit West-Berlin (we returned after some hours, we only wanted to explore it). The shops in the West stayed open all night long, all price tags were increased (! not reduced) as a first welcome for us fools from the East!
In the following 6 weeks I crossed the border almost every single day and watched, visited, enjoyed the new freedom. At the time I could not foresee that in all the years since then I would not be in a mood anymore to cross the former border line, but that’s how it is. Of course there unfortunately is no border anymore and the shit on both sides doesn’t differ much (except that the east got completely taken over and de-industrialized).
There is no physical wall anymore.
But every statistics chart tells you the disparities at first sight:
Concerning chemical plant explosions in China, and other industrial catastrophes.
They happen.
Sadly, third world nations (which China was from the beginning of its opening up race to riches) take on old facilities shipped to them from first world nations. That’s right, whole factories are sent there.
For instance, China is shipping old power plants to Bangladesh.
Combined with ignorance, bad training, cost cutting, demand for fast turnaround, spotty maintenance and metal fatigue, these factories and plants are ideal for disaster.
Coal mines cave in there on a regular basis.
So, please spare us the loony conspiracy. It is possible that there is sabotage. It is possible that some of the havoc is stimulated by agents of covert foreign services. It is possible that the known enemies of the state and central government could blow up a chemical plant.
It is also possible that aliens from a distant planet did it.
However, the Chinese are very good at digging into these events. They are thorough. They also are surprisingly transparent. In China there are always thousands of eyes and millions of Weibo (their Twitter) practitioners to alert the government about anything amiss. They also have a cultural affinity for sticking their nose into any situation. IF there is the slightest hint or clue of a “black hand” doing these explosions, the Chinese will uncover it.
It should only be a few days and the event will be explained as to cause and culprits.
I doubt the Chinese would miss an opportunity to blame the CIA Station Chief if it was “US sabotage”.
I don’t know enough about what’s going on there, but of course the corruption scandal involves Goldman Sachs. Is there any fraud in the world that doesn’t involve them in some way.
Bankok bombing was at tourist site and six of the victims were Chinese.
The turkic terror link is already present. This is Uyghur link, most probably.
They get two for one effect. It hurts the Thai government for dealing favorably with China. And it hurts the tourism business and terrorizes Chinese (biggest tourists of the world).
This could be CIA sponsored if Uyghur. They operate out of Langley and Berlin for funding.
Let’s see what the find facts are before saying what the cause and reasons are.
But the Uyghurs are also linked in Turkey to Syria for training, and the Chinese are furious at Erdogan over this.
What makes me wonder are not the explosions alone, but their precise timings.
And again: While China still has some outdated industrial sites in use, the overwhelming majority of the country is hugely modern. And they have security persons everywhere. Each and every larger train station is secured like an international airport. You can only check-in or check-out by being controlled several times. And special agents contact you and ask you extra questions. I travelled through all of China by train, many thousand kilometers, and also visited some old industrial sites myself (to take pictures of the last few steam locomotives).
I took a huge bank loan to do this at a time when I still got a loan.
Now it is even more modern in China I would assume. And the recent explosions took place in such newly built completely modern areas, not on a rusty place. Especially: In what was intended to be China’s/BRICS’ new wallstreet district!
Also, did you see the videos of the explosions? Damn it, SomTingWrongTher …
And the extra special co-incident is the timing in contrast to developments on the Chinese stock market and then FX market (which I following on a daily basis).
If you can’t see these contradictions, this doesn’t mean that my doubts are not justified.
Chinese are doing these “dumps” to prop up the Yuan with liquidity.
The US forced the linkage of Yuan to Dollar since 2005 and now that the Dollar is so strong, the Yuan was way over-valued.That cost China trade of its exports. So, they devalued the Yuan.
Next, they had to protect the devaluation.
And dumping Treasuries is also a bit of a “message” that two can play the finance war.
China does not want to hurt US or German economies. Just sending a message.
However, the US is definitely in full spectrum mode to destroy China economically. There will be no multi-polar accommodation if the US has its way.
Of course, Russia and China resist this and have many weapons to deal with it. They have already crippled the petro dollar and severely hurt the BIS.
Just a word of caution about Zero Hedge: it’s a good source of links to things at times. But it also hucksters Gold as its primary business.
Just because some news is correct, does not mean their POV on other matters is correct.
Read discretely.
Know what websites are pitching or spinning at you.
A similar psychological effect as Pripyat/Chernobyl 1986 for the Soveit Union, which was a major milestone in its destabilization and destruction.
True: I have no proof and the situation who committed this is unclear.
But it has one effect for sure: Many Chinese a losing faith in their leadership. And who benefits from such developments?
@Larchmonter445 wrote:
> It should only be a few days and the event will be explained as to cause and culprits.
> I doubt the Chinese would miss an opportunity to blame the CIA Station Chief if it was “US sabotage”.
One could think that. But reality is different.
I also wondered and asked myself for years, why no government (except Iran’s) ever came up with 9/11.
I still don’t understand why Russia doesn’t go forward to speak out the 911 truth.
We could also wonder why Russia doesn’t publish all it knows about MH17 or MH370 and let’s say about the GermanWings crash in the Alps. But if we like it or not – that’s not what they will do.
Not sure why. Maybe they are afraid of tit-for-tat, or they are successfully blackmailing each other in balance.
But no matter what: Other than North-Korea or Iran, no government ever dares to speak out such things (with small exceptions, such as in japan 10 years ago, but rarely as official gov position).
Uncle Bob, that’s sad, but the land was there before the people, and for the past decades the people that have been attracted to Kiev and Ukraine ? Perhaps not a good example of what people can be…there will be the land, after ‘these’ people are dead and gone. Even without extermination. Just through the natural process of life and death…Russia and the Slavic race have many millennia yet to live.
Dear Guardian editors, especially the Anonymous Perpetrator of Sunday’s Guardian view on Ukraine –
You must be wondering why, after over a year of a continued propaganda campaign that has seen you defending neo-nazis, racist massacres, and the wholesale terrorising of innocent civilians, you are still largely failing to get the message across, even to your core traditional readership. I can sense a rising panic, bafflement and bewilderment in you. And it makes me want to reach out. To bridge the gulf and explain why you are so totally failing to convince anybody of anything.
Still don’t give it the oomph though.. Far better than what Pepe would say as he is more mainstream politically correct..
I was never a Guardian reader.. It is one of those supposedly on your side guys you take to a knife fight and then get knifed in the back thingy.. Makes you wonder all about snowden then.. BBC we know is a government rag.. But more and more they seem to have lost all semblance of reality and impartiality.. Since we know its government rag outlet, we can take their news with a grain of salt.. But when they are so off the rails, its not even worth the entertainment value. There are SOME independent outlets that has some semblance of reality.. But RT????? So Russia funds them to an extent.. But they are only NOT AS BAD as the rest.. For real news they are useless.. PressTV is far better in that regard even though half the stuff there seems to be about aliens as it makes no sense.. We are in the age of nonsense where even if you look hard enough it is still very hard to find anything of relevance. I suppose that is because the US wants to keep it that way. Nonsense is far better than anything based on reality. They can always attack the tin foil hatters. So much so that it is a benefit to them. The thing is, it is a benefit to them in ALL respects and aspects of life. You cant even find any real valid scientific studies these days. Most of it is nonsense.
World August 30, 11:47 UTC+3
“I congratulate Donetsk residents with their City Day. We’ll necessarily restore the towns and villages that were destroyed. Donbass is and will be Ukrainian,” Poroshenko wrote in his Facebook account
MOSCOW, August 30. /TASS/. Ukraine’s President Pyotr Poroshenko congratulated Donetsk residents with Donetsk City Day on Sunday and vowed to restore the buildings and infrastructure destroyed by the Ukrainian army’s shelling.
“I congratulate Donetsk residents with their City Day. We’ll necessarily restore the towns and villages that were destroyed. Donbass is and will be Ukrainian,” Poroshenko wrote in his Facebook account.”
One of my Russian FB friends is a moderately liberal Russian.The kind that used to admire the West as a model.She owns a company that deals in the West a lot.And constantly travels there on business.I’m mentioning her because she “used” to be the type of people that supported the West in Russia.But over the coup in Ukraine and the Western sanctions she has changed.And is now 100% pro-Russian.The West has lost most of their support among Russians.Only the foolish or corrupt (or both in one) still support them in Russia.I won’t give my friends name but I want to show what she wrote today to show how much change has come even to many formerly pro-West people in Russia.If Western actions can lose people like her.I shutter to think of the feelings of people that never liked the West to start with:
“One year ago i had account of our russian branch arrested in UK … I kept silent and calm … But this S… is really pissing off For arresting RT TV in UK i would arrest BP (20 billion) in five huge oil fields (+5 oil refineries), also block all their projects in Central Asia and Azerbaidjan (worth of hundreds of millions and even billions), Block their active work in Kazahstan and Tatarstan earning billions, Royal Dutch Shell (30 billion dollars), Brittish airways , 6-7 Chemical facttories based in Russia (10 billion dollars), 2 Steel factories shares (1 billion), Branch of helicopters production, Stop Glonass navigation help, stop selling them titan, block cooperation of Chines EADS aircraft construction which is being done on russian technologies, more than 10 banks and bunch of Investment companies earning hundreds of billions in BRICS … Even Hong Kong agreed to kick them off … they also tired … Also All Brittish airways flights to Asia should be either through Afganistan or better – North pole …. Block and burn UK embassy and deliver the most sophisticated weapons to Northern Ireland (they need freedom) also good idea to support Taliban and someone else. F…k..s now command mass murder of russians in eastern ukraine, and their command centers with hundreds of UK military to be bombed by cruise missiles, no way to run …. It is really pissing off. This is crazy crap ….. And can you answer WHO THE F..K WILL LOOSE MORE? Russians who have nothing there or UK? I am soft and normal person but this is really crazy”
I edited most of the “Mat”.The capitals come from the post.
What about those of us who are considered western as we grew up in the west. Guess first hand knowledge takes out a lot of the propaganda taught in schools. When 911 happened, it all fell away.. If they can do that to themselves, what would they do to the rest of us. And it was not reading some blogs and what not. It was just wonderment for a while, confusion and amazement and then realization.. When Iraq war started, knowing what happened before, it was all laid bare and plain to see,
Hillarious picture of protests in Kiev – link to PBS.twming.com
However, people have been injured and hurt.
I just read someone actually lost his life because of the nade explosion. The above is not meant to poke fun at that.
In a bright and also sad story,little Vanya and his mother were given Russian citizenship.President Putin signed the award giving them citizenship.So they never have to worry about returning to the site of the crime that shattered their lives.
http://xn—–6kcbca3bfdj0dc0a2ok.xn--p1ai/news/postradavshie_v_donbasse_vanja_voronov_i_ego_mama_poluchili_grazhdanstvo_rf/2015-08-30-223
This only seems to be an off topic post:
but think twice what this means for Russia, for Europe it is clear.
There will be a lot of Vanyas…
http://truehorn.livejournal.com/42213.html
(I strongly recommend for translation,
Mr. Saker please have a look at least,
could be useful in some of your next analysis).
https://www.youtube.com/user/crimeanfront/videos
Should be hot linked.
Interesting what Yats says about it.
Sounds like he doesn’t want to stay alive any longer, and if you consider how many fully armed zombies run around in Kiev, this could lead to a tragedy (such as Iraq scenario with daily bomb attacks on crowded places).
http://www.kmu.gov.ua/control/en/publish/article?art_id=248445905&cat_id=244314971
Excerpt: “””””First of all, I would like to express condolences to the family of Ihor Debrin, who was killed by mobs, I emphasize – by mobs – in clashes near the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
All the wounded will receive both moneyed and medical assistance: all our soldiers, all law enforcement officers, the National Guard officers and persons who have suffered as a result of a crime committed by certain political forces.
These political forces haven’t come to defend the Constitution, but to rape the Constitution and Ukraine. And, actually, they are worse than Russian gangsters and terrorists in the East. Those don’t hide that they are at war with Ukraine. However, these hiding behind the slogans of patriotism and love for Ukraine are destroying Ukrainian statehood.”””””
@ Martin from S.E.B,
Q; Interesting what Yats says about it.
R; Is that Yats of the,
“I’ll take a bullet to the forehead from the snipers on Mai-
Run!!! They started shooting.., I think…” variety?
We should also not forget the fact that, back in 2013, Mrs. Nuland/Kagan already knew who would be in the Kiev saddle on a horse stampeding towards the East, come 2014.
That’s all one has to know about unca Sammy’s real take on democracy.
Svoboda is protesting that theyre not winning the war fast enough or killing enough novorussians.
It would be funny if people werent getting hurt.
It would not be “funny” either way.
Many good people are trapped in Western Ukraine.
And especially in Kiev many still speak real (East-)Russian, not the funny dialect (that one is indeed funny).
Porky:
“”””””Not only executors will be punished. Not only those, who used grenades, machine guns and baseball bats, but also their organizers and political customers,””””””
http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/prezident-proviv-naradu-z-silovikami-vinni-u-sutichkah-pid-s-35892
This all stinks like CIA’s handwriting to start the 2nd front for real. Which might mark the beginning of extremely terrible bloodshed not seen in history for 70 years :(
WTF??! China Rocked By Another Massive Chemical Explosion
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-31/china-rocked-another-massive-chemical-explosion-peoples-daily-reports
(ZH links are provided without warranty, just FYI)
Its real. MSNBC has an article on the same thing.
Man, seriously sucks.
All the recent odd explosions inside China together – no way that this is a coincidence.
Found the following quote in ZH’s comments section:
“””””One of the most effective forms of industrial or military sabotage limits itself to damage that can never be thoroughly proven—or even proven at all—to be anything deliberate. It is like an invisible political movement; perhaps it isn’t there at all. If a bomb is wired to a car’s ignition, then obviously there is an enemy; if public building or a political headquarters is blown up, then there is a political enemy. But if an accident, or a series of accidents, occurs, if equipment merely fails to function, if it appears faulty, especially in a slow fashion, over a period of natural time, with numerous small failures and misfirings—then the victim, whether a person or a party or a country, can never marshal itself to defend itself.
— Philip K Dick”””””
No offense, but the truth is theres no proof it isn’t a coincidence, either.
Its a Devils Proof, man.
reposted:
@Mats on September 01, 2015 · at 12:42 am UTC
http://www.mapreport.com/subtopics/d/countries/china.html
Here are more disasters. China has a long, long history of SNAFU catastrophes.
The facts are overwhelming that in China sh*t happens.
a bit ungenerous….
lots of those ‘entries’ in your link are earthquakes and typhoons, multiple car crashes and the like.
notably ‘missing’ are the numbers of people shot dead by out of control
police, as other countries bathe in the supposedly brave and free
democracy.
I presume you (commenters and readers) are aware that Kievian’s are full on blaming Russia for this uprising.
The Grenade thrown was Russian made you know :-)))
There is only one thing in existance which is more unlimited than the universe: Human stupidity.
I nominate Ukraine as next collective candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize …
Theyre accusing a mob of the ANTI RUSSIAN FAR RIGHT, who are complaining that Poroshenko is NOT ANTI RUSSIAN ENOUGH, of being financed by Russia?
Typical lying ukies. Its not true and they know it. If Russia financed it, they would be pro-Russian or at least not anti-Russian.
Whats hard to believe is that there are people in the west gullible enough to genuinely think this is somehow engineered by ebil ebil Putin.
Massinissa, sorry, but please don’t use caps.. We can still read, without them. There’s a policy here that its like shouting….
It is not necessarily like shouting — it is also like italics, both indicating a change in inflection of voice. I personally feel lost without them, but lo!
Massinissa! Lookee here!
Not all of us!! . . . . . but I’ll admit a distressingly high number.. 2B expected I guess in a country enarmoured with that smirking globalist Key. As an aside I’ve managed to get upwards of a half dozen people engaged in conversations about Novorussya / Ukraine by flying a 9th May orange & black Victory ribbon I got from the RF consulate in Canberra, on my car aerial. They have asked what “team” the colours represent & that gets the conversation going. It is hard not to shake my head in incredulity that that’s how a conversation is initiated, but in the interests of informing my fellow man I force myself to be civil ‹(•¿•)›
Cheers
Chris in Ch-Ch
** Pornoschenko: The draft constitutional amendments do not foresee special status for particular districts of Donetsk and Luhansk regions. **
http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/zvernennya-prezidenta-shodo-golosuvannya-u-verhovnij-radi-zm-35891
“””””Understandably, some people in Moscow are quite anxious because they did not get what they want.
[…]
The draft constitutional amendments do not foresee special status for particular districts of Donetsk and Luhansk regions. This, in my view, is just a cliché that certain political parties employed as election strategy, an element of the dishonest information campaign against the Constitution and against the president.
Moreover, we are crossing out a clause that allows an illusory opportunity for special status in Article 92 of the Constitution of Ukraine. This was done in order to eliminate any kind of legalistic ways to prevent the emergence of numerous fiefdoms.”””””
Now, Kiev, OSCE and all of the West always claim that there are and were no MINSK2 vilolations by Kiev’s side in Donbass on the ground, that the Separatists were shooting themselves and blah blah blah.
But what about this! Yet another time this scumbag publicly says that there won’t ever be any special status for Donbass (there are other videos where he said this directly into the cameras last spring). He probably wants to be seen by his fellow Nazis as being “outstandingly extra-Patriotic”.
Isn’t that a clear undeniable violation of M2???
What is Moscow waiting for?
“What is Moscow waiting for” ??
Survival of our Planet I think !!!!
With them not falling onto the Anglo/Zionist bait “hook” – we “might” remain “status qua” for another decade or two ??
For Svoboda to toss out Poroshenko, That would be a better time to take action than right now, wouldn’t it?
Interesting user comment at ZH concerning China explosions, West’s influence in China, Russia, Putin. Maybe worth to be shared. Please extra-verify:
Joseph Gallager has posted several compelling clips with numerous links that paint a credible explanation that is not ‘rod of god’. Conclusion? Internal power struggle. First of 7 linked below. Worth a watch.
“While many conspiracy theorists think that America blasted China with some satellite or other advanced weapon, the damage at the scene reveals a mini-nuclear event, thus ruling out even the Mossad (for China is locked tight). As of Aug 23rd, the nation has experienced 3 explosions at 3 different warehouses storing chemicals; and the Tianjin event was clearly an act of terrorism, but who is responsible? the current government of Xi Jinping? His government’s reticence seemingly betrays their guilt, but in fact, former president Jiang Zemin’s faction carried out the attack. ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nidk3MjsLpk
Q: IS Mossad/DeepGov really ‘locked out’?
I would not rule out ANYTHING that fits into the theory of Pike/Massini’s alleged WW3 letter (not proven: http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/01/10/albert-pike-to-mazzini-augus…). This kind of ‘unattributable sabotage’, if that’s what it is, would be the expected hot foreplay to WW3. Can NOT OVERLOOK the ‘PTB’ involvement in the opening up and financing of CONtemporary China from Kissinger/Nixon fwd. Think strategic pre-planned and pre-planted means of implosion, think thermite in a steel framed building that you’d want to ‘pull’ for an insurance claim and to terrorise sheople. US vs BRICS is the last thesis/antithesis>synthesis to occur before Extatic One World Citizenism under Eternal Dear Leaderness. Excellent research here:
China and the NWO
https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-297-china-and-the-new-world-order/
How the West Re-colonized China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=30&v=WxFSvPUY_oc
Q: Is the internal Chinese power struggle the parallel to Putin wrestling control of Russia from Yeltsin/Oligarch cabal?
The Rise of Putin and The Fall of The Russian-Jewish Oligarchs (1/2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Cl8lSv9Is
The Rise of Putin and The Fall of The Russian-Jewish Oligarchs (2/2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2nNtynZAiI
How Vladimir Putin came to power (full documentary) Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpiZw1R8w-c
Vladimir Putin Full Length Documentary: The Putin System
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Rkom1RpKA
@ Martin from S.E.B.,
Still progress, but not the way it was – link to picture
Oh, and
Cultural Differences – link to independent
Martin ! you didn’t give the “Putin Russia and the West” links…there are 4 parts and it was taken down by BBC for being ‘pro-Putin’
You can find it on Watch Documentary.
And !! The best of all is “The Unknown Putin” parts one and two.
And !! Martin, you will love this one….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2i7cTeb9ag – that’s the best of all…
Thanks Ann, The Unknown Putin (Neisvestny Putin) by Pravda.ru is really one of the most important videos, you are right. I know it from earlier and sometimes posted it here in the past. One has to be careful, because there are disinfo videos with similar titles.
Here is the good version:
The Unknown Putin. Part 1
Pravda (English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCU4C6ajgBI&list=PL36lqR9B_gXeCDecMe9uk5EIkm7liQ7ci
But last night I really only re-shared the ZH user comment minutes before falling asleep.
On one hand I wanted to point to it, on the other couldn’t co-author or much verify it anymore. That’s why I said in my post _please extra verify_.
But good to see your message now.
Thanks also for your second video.
I’m aware that Putin lived and worked in GDR for some years (as KGB agent in Dresden) but I didn’t know this clip before. At 0:15 you see the first point where the border between East- and West Germany was opened on November 9th 1989 at the border crossing Bornholmer Strasse in Berlin. I grew up 1km east of this location (now live 14 km _east_ of it) And on this day I was one of the naive idiots on this bridge who celebrated the opening and were unbelievably happy like in heaven that we could visit West-Berlin (we returned after some hours, we only wanted to explore it). The shops in the West stayed open all night long, all price tags were increased (! not reduced) as a first welcome for us fools from the East!
In the following 6 weeks I crossed the border almost every single day and watched, visited, enjoyed the new freedom. At the time I could not foresee that in all the years since then I would not be in a mood anymore to cross the former border line, but that’s how it is. Of course there unfortunately is no border anymore and the shit on both sides doesn’t differ much (except that the east got completely taken over and de-industrialized).
There is no physical wall anymore.
But every statistics chart tells you the disparities at first sight:
Russia May Condemn “Annexation” Of East Germany
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-28/russia-may-condemn-annexation-east-germany
Concerning chemical plant explosions in China, and other industrial catastrophes.
They happen.
Sadly, third world nations (which China was from the beginning of its opening up race to riches) take on old facilities shipped to them from first world nations. That’s right, whole factories are sent there.
For instance, China is shipping old power plants to Bangladesh.
Combined with ignorance, bad training, cost cutting, demand for fast turnaround, spotty maintenance and metal fatigue, these factories and plants are ideal for disaster.
Coal mines cave in there on a regular basis.
So, please spare us the loony conspiracy. It is possible that there is sabotage. It is possible that some of the havoc is stimulated by agents of covert foreign services. It is possible that the known enemies of the state and central government could blow up a chemical plant.
It is also possible that aliens from a distant planet did it.
However, the Chinese are very good at digging into these events. They are thorough. They also are surprisingly transparent. In China there are always thousands of eyes and millions of Weibo (their Twitter) practitioners to alert the government about anything amiss. They also have a cultural affinity for sticking their nose into any situation. IF there is the slightest hint or clue of a “black hand” doing these explosions, the Chinese will uncover it.
It should only be a few days and the event will be explained as to cause and culprits.
I doubt the Chinese would miss an opportunity to blame the CIA Station Chief if it was “US sabotage”.
Who do you think is responsible for the Bangkok bombing and the new protest movement in Malaysia? Bersih?
I don’t know enough about what’s going on there, but of course the corruption scandal involves Goldman Sachs. Is there any fraud in the world that doesn’t involve them in some way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw9EhjyU3JU
Bankok bombing was at tourist site and six of the victims were Chinese.
The turkic terror link is already present. This is Uyghur link, most probably.
They get two for one effect. It hurts the Thai government for dealing favorably with China. And it hurts the tourism business and terrorizes Chinese (biggest tourists of the world).
This could be CIA sponsored if Uyghur. They operate out of Langley and Berlin for funding.
Let’s see what the find facts are before saying what the cause and reasons are.
But the Uyghurs are also linked in Turkey to Syria for training, and the Chinese are furious at Erdogan over this.
3rd world country?
Have you ever been to China?
You will forget old crumbling USA after having seen how modern and orderly their country is.
@Larchmonter445: Is this also a conspiracy theory then??
Or a co-incidence?
Devaluation Stunner: China Has Dumped $100 Billion In Treasurys In The Past Two Weeks
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-25/devaluation-stunner-china-has-dumped-100-billion-treasurys-past-two-weeks
What makes me wonder are not the explosions alone, but their precise timings.
And again: While China still has some outdated industrial sites in use, the overwhelming majority of the country is hugely modern. And they have security persons everywhere. Each and every larger train station is secured like an international airport. You can only check-in or check-out by being controlled several times. And special agents contact you and ask you extra questions. I travelled through all of China by train, many thousand kilometers, and also visited some old industrial sites myself (to take pictures of the last few steam locomotives).
I took a huge bank loan to do this at a time when I still got a loan.
Now it is even more modern in China I would assume. And the recent explosions took place in such newly built completely modern areas, not on a rusty place. Especially: In what was intended to be China’s/BRICS’ new wallstreet district!
Also, did you see the videos of the explosions? Damn it, SomTingWrongTher …
And the extra special co-incident is the timing in contrast to developments on the Chinese stock market and then FX market (which I following on a daily basis).
If you can’t see these contradictions, this doesn’t mean that my doubts are not justified.
Chinese are doing these “dumps” to prop up the Yuan with liquidity.
The US forced the linkage of Yuan to Dollar since 2005 and now that the Dollar is so strong, the Yuan was way over-valued.That cost China trade of its exports. So, they devalued the Yuan.
Next, they had to protect the devaluation.
And dumping Treasuries is also a bit of a “message” that two can play the finance war.
China does not want to hurt US or German economies. Just sending a message.
However, the US is definitely in full spectrum mode to destroy China economically. There will be no multi-polar accommodation if the US has its way.
Of course, Russia and China resist this and have many weapons to deal with it. They have already crippled the petro dollar and severely hurt the BIS.
Just a word of caution about Zero Hedge: it’s a good source of links to things at times. But it also hucksters Gold as its primary business.
Just because some news is correct, does not mean their POV on other matters is correct.
Read discretely.
Know what websites are pitching or spinning at you.
> Just a word of caution about Zero Hedge: it’s a good source of links to things at times.
> But it also hucksters Gold as its primary business.
On that I can agree with you.
They bring 20 good articles and then suddenly 1 really bad, as if it was written by the enemy.
Same unfortunately the case even for sites such as voltairenet.
@Larchmonter445 wrote:
>However, the Chinese are very good at digging into these events.
> They are thorough.
> They also are surprisingly transparent.
The authorities unfortunately exactly don’t appear to be handling this very transparent at all.
Here some western mouthpieces ranting about it (same as 1986):
Chinese media accuse authorities of lack of transparency after Tianjin explosions
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/11806790/Chinese-media-accuse-authorities-of-lack-of-transparency-after-Tianjin-explosions.html
And this is making many average Chinese angy towards their government:
Tianjin Blasts: Some Chinese Lose Faith In Government Amid Cover-Up Allegations
http://www.ibtimes.com/tianjin-blasts-some-chinese-lose-faith-government-amid-cover-allegations-2062848
A similar psychological effect as Pripyat/Chernobyl 1986 for the Soveit Union, which was a major milestone in its destabilization and destruction.
True: I have no proof and the situation who committed this is unclear.
But it has one effect for sure: Many Chinese a losing faith in their leadership. And who benefits from such developments?
@Larchmonter445 wrote:
> It should only be a few days and the event will be explained as to cause and culprits.
> I doubt the Chinese would miss an opportunity to blame the CIA Station Chief if it was “US sabotage”.
One could think that. But reality is different.
I also wondered and asked myself for years, why no government (except Iran’s) ever came up with 9/11.
I still don’t understand why Russia doesn’t go forward to speak out the 911 truth.
We could also wonder why Russia doesn’t publish all it knows about MH17 or MH370 and let’s say about the GermanWings crash in the Alps. But if we like it or not – that’s not what they will do.
Not sure why. Maybe they are afraid of tit-for-tat, or they are successfully blackmailing each other in balance.
But no matter what: Other than North-Korea or Iran, no government ever dares to speak out such things (with small exceptions, such as in japan 10 years ago, but rarely as official gov position).
With what’s going on in Kiev now,it might be good to post this:
“RIP Russian Kiev, the “Mother of the Russian Cities”
An ode to Kiev by a Kievan Russian who had to move to Russia after Maidan, like thousands of others…
You can lay on the couch,
Turn the Internet off,
And erase all your thoughts,
Written in so many years.
You can pack the suitcase,
Buy a ticket to Russia.
But how do you fit a temple in it
And a quiet dawn over the pine trees?
You can come to the train station,
And get into the last car,
But the sad knell of church bells
Freezes the soul like a tear.
You can stare at the window
Swallow the lump in the throat.
Only it is not in the cards
To forget your dear home.
Even though it fell so low ,
Even though it burns in hell,
Even though you can not endure
To be a stranger in your own home.
You can feel sorry for it,
You can scold it,
But among other news
You will always look for it.
You will find a new home,
Live there for many years,
But the city, which does not exist
Will remain in your heart forever.
Only the grace from its ancient caves
Shall never cease,
And will keep calling us to prayer
From the distant lands…
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/08/rip-russian-kiev-mother-of-russian.html
Uncle Bob, that’s sad, but the land was there before the people, and for the past decades the people that have been attracted to Kiev and Ukraine ? Perhaps not a good example of what people can be…there will be the land, after ‘these’ people are dead and gone. Even without extermination. Just through the natural process of life and death…Russia and the Slavic race have many millennia yet to live.
@thesaker – OT
Hi Saker,
What do you think of this, orthogonal, perspective on the role of BRICS and its opposition to the Western bloc?
Cheers,
mbotta
Dear Guardian editors, especially the Anonymous Perpetrator of Sunday’s Guardian view on Ukraine –
You must be wondering why, after over a year of a continued propaganda campaign that has seen you defending neo-nazis, racist massacres, and the wholesale terrorising of innocent civilians, you are still largely failing to get the message across, even to your core traditional readership. I can sense a rising panic, bafflement and bewilderment in you. And it makes me want to reach out. To bridge the gulf and explain why you are so totally failing to convince anybody of anything.
Read more here:Dear Guardian editors: this is why no one believes you anymore –
http://off-guardian.org/2015/08/31/dear-guardian-editors-this-is-why-no-one-believes-you-anymore/
Hmmm how shall I put it….
Expletive statement removed by mod-hs
Still don’t give it the oomph though.. Far better than what Pepe would say as he is more mainstream politically correct..
I was never a Guardian reader.. It is one of those supposedly on your side guys you take to a knife fight and then get knifed in the back thingy.. Makes you wonder all about snowden then.. BBC we know is a government rag.. But more and more they seem to have lost all semblance of reality and impartiality.. Since we know its government rag outlet, we can take their news with a grain of salt.. But when they are so off the rails, its not even worth the entertainment value. There are SOME independent outlets that has some semblance of reality.. But RT????? So Russia funds them to an extent.. But they are only NOT AS BAD as the rest.. For real news they are useless.. PressTV is far better in that regard even though half the stuff there seems to be about aliens as it makes no sense.. We are in the age of nonsense where even if you look hard enough it is still very hard to find anything of relevance. I suppose that is because the US wants to keep it that way. Nonsense is far better than anything based on reality. They can always attack the tin foil hatters. So much so that it is a benefit to them. The thing is, it is a benefit to them in ALL respects and aspects of life. You cant even find any real valid scientific studies these days. Most of it is nonsense.
America is a master of chaos
maybe they weren’t happy with this statement
Ukraine’s Poroshenko vows to rebuild Donbass
World August 30, 11:47 UTC+3
“I congratulate Donetsk residents with their City Day. We’ll necessarily restore the towns and villages that were destroyed. Donbass is and will be Ukrainian,” Poroshenko wrote in his Facebook account
MOSCOW, August 30. /TASS/. Ukraine’s President Pyotr Poroshenko congratulated Donetsk residents with Donetsk City Day on Sunday and vowed to restore the buildings and infrastructure destroyed by the Ukrainian army’s shelling.
“I congratulate Donetsk residents with their City Day. We’ll necessarily restore the towns and villages that were destroyed. Donbass is and will be Ukrainian,” Poroshenko wrote in his Facebook account.”
One of my Russian FB friends is a moderately liberal Russian.The kind that used to admire the West as a model.She owns a company that deals in the West a lot.And constantly travels there on business.I’m mentioning her because she “used” to be the type of people that supported the West in Russia.But over the coup in Ukraine and the Western sanctions she has changed.And is now 100% pro-Russian.The West has lost most of their support among Russians.Only the foolish or corrupt (or both in one) still support them in Russia.I won’t give my friends name but I want to show what she wrote today to show how much change has come even to many formerly pro-West people in Russia.If Western actions can lose people like her.I shutter to think of the feelings of people that never liked the West to start with:
“One year ago i had account of our russian branch arrested in UK … I kept silent and calm … But this S… is really pissing off For arresting RT TV in UK i would arrest BP (20 billion) in five huge oil fields (+5 oil refineries), also block all their projects in Central Asia and Azerbaidjan (worth of hundreds of millions and even billions), Block their active work in Kazahstan and Tatarstan earning billions, Royal Dutch Shell (30 billion dollars), Brittish airways , 6-7 Chemical facttories based in Russia (10 billion dollars), 2 Steel factories shares (1 billion), Branch of helicopters production, Stop Glonass navigation help, stop selling them titan, block cooperation of Chines EADS aircraft construction which is being done on russian technologies, more than 10 banks and bunch of Investment companies earning hundreds of billions in BRICS … Even Hong Kong agreed to kick them off … they also tired … Also All Brittish airways flights to Asia should be either through Afganistan or better – North pole …. Block and burn UK embassy and deliver the most sophisticated weapons to Northern Ireland (they need freedom) also good idea to support Taliban and someone else. F…k..s now command mass murder of russians in eastern ukraine, and their command centers with hundreds of UK military to be bombed by cruise missiles, no way to run …. It is really pissing off. This is crazy crap ….. And can you answer WHO THE F..K WILL LOOSE MORE? Russians who have nothing there or UK? I am soft and normal person but this is really crazy”
I edited most of the “Mat”.The capitals come from the post.
What about those of us who are considered western as we grew up in the west. Guess first hand knowledge takes out a lot of the propaganda taught in schools. When 911 happened, it all fell away.. If they can do that to themselves, what would they do to the rest of us. And it was not reading some blogs and what not. It was just wonderment for a while, confusion and amazement and then realization.. When Iraq war started, knowing what happened before, it was all laid bare and plain to see,
Russian jets in Syrian skies, Russian expeditionary force in Syria, a second Russian naval base in Syria?
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4696268,00.html
Putin says dump Dollar
Russian President Vladimir Putin has drafted a bill that aims to eliminate the US dollar and the euro from trade between CIS countries.
http://www.rt.com/business/313967-putin-says-dump-dollar/