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Aahh!! Why not Saker analyze of the Ukrainian elections, why no fortruss analyze, why no Cassad analyze, why the silence?! All I read about it was from western sources, and they all seem to say it went well for the pro-Russian side, and caused increased fractionating among pro-USA forces.. And if they said that, then it must have went really really well for the pro-Russian forces.. Yet no analyze to confirm from any pro-Russian source..
The parties have websites.
That is not what I want, I want an overall analyze. Besides information from the parties websites would be useless, it would mostly consist of propaganda glorifying the party in question.
I fail to see why pro-Russian sites are so indifferent towards the election. Sure it wasn’t the parliamentary elections or presidential elections but it still was quite telling about where the country was heading. And what the Ukrainian people really think.
Condolences, Prayers and Respect to those poor innocent civilians: adults and children that died in the Metro Airlines crash in the Sinai peninsula.
25 Children along with 199 adults all innocents with broken hearted families.
i feel like having been shattered into dust and when i first heard about it had silent sad tears
this time using such language and images as this would (unlike last time) not only be justified, but mandatory:
http://www.tanais.info/world/munk.jpg
Martin…’i feel like having been shattered into dust and when i first heard about it had silent sad tears’
Ditto… your comment says so much.
BTW… the vineyard wasn’t been the same during your absence. I hope you have taken the break to recharge yourself with positive energy. (I did put out a ‘where are you’ message).
Cheers
Thank you, Babushka in Oz :)
Must try to return more frequently.
Now that finally nobody bugs me with “Shalom dearest brother” 20 times per post nothing speaks categorically against this (other than lack of time).
Cheers!
BTW: How many are aware of these events half a year ago in Yemen and have any convincing explanation?
Confirmed – Israeli – Saudi Arabia Tactical Nuclear Strike on Yemen (Neutron Bomb)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu8GDJzyKx4
Hi Martin ! That is certainly a nuclear bomb..if you ask me….so, what exactly is the bad thing about this nuclear bomb anyway ? There was an explosion and then it hit the location where the video was being filmed…but is that cloud full of deadly radiation ? Or is it the impact ?
Hi Ann, that’s the exact question. Not every explosion with a mushroom cloud must necessarily be a caused by a nuke. Without Geiger counter it’s only guessing.
But I think that this one must be one.
And unlike in China we don’t have 700 tons of highly toxic explosive chemicals stored here.
From observation it looks like first a trigger explosivle detonates, a few seconds later the whole thing, another few seconds later the shockwave arrives.
Would be interested if the cameraman is still okay :(
The strange thing with the Yemen war is, that it’s virtually non-existing according to western MSM.
Of course – Like in DonBass. Why should they bring coverage of their own genocides …
One day they may suddenly “report” about it and take videos from the archives (with false dates) : On the day when they say Putin did this, together with Assad and from the cloud Lenin and Stalin.
well, that downed Russian flight is certainly at the wrong place at the wrong time…Putin may be in trouble about this…what a damn tragedy.
This entire story stinks to the roof. Was it Israel or Saudi Arabia or the CIA via ISIS or the CIA directly? Moscow insists it was a normal accident. While Israhell’s mouthpiece DEBKA was the first to blame ISIS. An Airbus doesn’t fall out of the sky on a sunny day. Not like this, with a crash site indicating vertical impact and dead bodies spread over 3 kilometers.
BTW, on a secondary note, compare the impact zone to that alleged one of Shanksville (or the Pentagon) :
https://www.google.de/search?q=shanksville&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CDcQsARqFQoTCJfaxN257sgCFYLzcgodEqkGeg&biw=1280&bih=885
In all these 9/11 cases there were no Titanium engines, no wings and no nothing.
Except of course for a fresh bag of mint condition passports …
Sinai full of MB Egypt been fighting them since Arab Spring. Russia will get to the bottom of it-this is not Putin’s fault no matter if it was accident or terrorists.
RR
I wonder for how long Putin will continue trying to ignore all such provocations (as in Donbass or the terror attacks during Sochi).
That explains maybe why the Kremlin so far spoke of an “accident”.
Another factor: Would the Kremlin have behaved like Kiev/Washington after MH17, everybody could blame yet another time Putin for having shot his own jet as a falseflag/fake pretext, like Donbass who are allegedly shelling themselves and all such nonsense
You know how multi-facetted such sensitive tragic catastrophies are.
One way or another – multiply this with Soros’ migrants invasion and we are probably already in WW3 for years, if you look back. The danger that it gets unstoppably out of control is getting worse by the day.
I don’t know who might soon be more in trouble.
At the end probably all of us.
The West would committ such crimes anyway. With Russia’s Syria policy and without.
I remind you of all those countries who ever thought being friends with Sam brings long-term rewards, such as Romania (1989), Yugoslavia (1991-today), Iraq(1981-2003-today) etc …
Martin, where have you been ? I thought you might have gone to Donbass…how’s life over there in the East of the West ? Still as many migrants ? did you see Teranam 13’s comment ? Here:
The mass wave of manipulated human migrants-refugees-desperate people was totally shocking. It was almost like an ant wave not a human trek or like lemmings rushing to the sea or like the zombie images in current horror movies. It didn’t feel like the sorrowful unwilling columns of Spanish Jews trekking across Spain to seek (a temporary) refuge in Portugal holding fond memories of home. This was an historical first—75% demographic of young men, well dressed and prepared mostly clutching the cell phones from which they were mobilized and directed and heading for the golden streets of the Swedish welfare state. It is a cynical assessment because it was cynically organized. It was the first flash mob organized on a global scale . And more will follow. We must be wise and as ruthless in our thinking as those who come up with such evil scams yet not let them harden our hearts or darken our souls.
Syrian Kurds need to be very careful these days… Those who lie and betray are coming to them like Greeks bearing gifts with big smiles and with secret plans for ” a night of long knives.” when least expected.
As the world once again didn’t go under in September, I’m enhacing my programming skills in order to get a job Russia :)
This doesn’t leave any time.
Several thousand pages of code as pdf.
But from time to time I’ reading the news a bit.
Thanks for the info about the migration.
Yes, I know.
You can see that I continued posting some links on fb and tw:
https://www.facebook.com/OpenSXCE/
https://twitter.com/opensxce
You know, this Salaam freak really urged me away from this blog for some time.
I myself thought for many years that muslims are our friends because they hate zionism. But Islam in itself is like cancer. Unfortunately you don’t understand German. Otherwise I could send you tons of pointers in an instant (written by a German who once fell into this trap and converted to Islam, also having studied it at a German University [Ph.D.], then he learner arabic and read the Quaran and saw what it really is).
Martin, I do speak German and I would highly appreciate any pointers in the direction you mentioned (i.e., the guy who learned about the nature of Islam).
Hi, as posted yesterday a few lines below here it is:
Udo Ulfkotte beschreibt die WAHRHEIT hinter PEgIdA – Ist das die Islamisierung des OKZIDENT? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laK83WTh0J4
Ann, also you see my typos (damn, once again).
I’m really exhausted and no longer can afford to spend so much time here, talking about politics.
My eyes are tired.
But I’m glad that you missed me.
I will continue to say “Hello” from time to time.
All the Best to you, Saker, Scott, SF, Elsi, Uncle Bob, (as much as this is possible after such tragic events)!
%m
Ann…maybe you are in trouble… you comment on wrong site.
I was looking in detail at this attack and did not find any evidence for a tactical (small) nuke. The explosion was way too slow and there were no signs of a gamma and neutron burst so typical for a nuclear detonation. However, I am not sure if it was a new type of weapon. It would be very interesting to know what kind and amount of ammunition contributed to the explosion.
My analysis can be found on my blog (in German):
http://blogs.epfl.ch/marcel.leutenegger/2015-06-28
Hey Martin!
Good to see you back.
Re the Yemen explosion – saw it ages ago. The claim it was a nuclear explosion too. That was countered by a claim that the explosion was of an ammunition dump. Would it have produced the same result? That can only be answered by technical experts.
Re the aircrash: know what you mean. I i
can’t get that picture of that ten-month old baby girl out of my head. Its been there all day.
I refuse to speculate – its adding salt to wounds.
Hey eimar,
tnx for your msg. Yes, I don’t know.
But here the latest links for today:
Russia Destroys Greater Israel Dream
http://www.4thmedia.org/2015/10/russia-destroys-the-greater-israel-dream/
Congresswoman Tells the Truth About Syria on CNN (Video)
http://www.4thmedia.org/2015/11/congresswoman-tells-the-truth-about-syria-on-cnn-video/
Russian Plane “Broke Apart In The Air,” Officials Say As Investigators Frantically Search For “Clues”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-01/russian-plane-broke-apart-air-officials-say-investigators-frantically-search-clues
Ban Ki-Moon Condemns The American Stand On Syria, Endorses Putin’s
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-01/ban-ki-moon-condemns-american-stand-syria-endorses-putins
Putin’s Approval Rating Reaches A New High
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-01/putins-approval-rating-reaches-new-high
There is also an abundance of sometimes highly interesting user comments.
The Kremlin must be fully aware that this was USrahell speaking.
But if Moscow wants to prevent an immediate full-scale escalation, maybe the “accident” card will be continued to be insisted on by all sides. For now …
Not sure when Russia will use the 9/11 trump. Nobody of us outsiders knows anything. It is all speculation. The only thing that appears to be clear is that it is highly unlikely that it was an accident, a failing hydro cable causing the machine to break apart in mid-air on a sunny day.
I also wondered why every news agency is reporting that it happened after the 23rd(!) minute.
See the unbelievable vaporization:
(also in the video)
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2458797.html
Actually, this looks like that direct energy stuff Judy Woods talks about…the 9/11 buildings were vaporized too….just clouds of cement dust everywhere…
Looks so far worth sharing: The Real Truth Behind Russian Flight KGL9268 Crash In Egypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKsuWJCkAY
There is no “truth” in this video.
There is speculation only.
There will be no WW3 (imho).
The rich guys (Russian included) continue to play games.
Hi South Front ! Thanks for the interesting video about military equipment in Ukraine.
by the way…if someone from Europe or America or South America wanted to volunteer for the Donbass Army, how would they do it ? Do you have a web-link ?
Thanks…
Ann
+1
It is unbelievable what huge quantity of professional perfect work SouthFront’s volunteers are contributing.
THANK YOU!
I’ve seen sites on VK talking about how to volunteer.And also, I’d think they could talk to Russell on FB about how to do that.I believe too,on some of the Youtube videos at the end of them there is info on volunteering.
Uncle Bob…Russell at fb ? Could you give link please ?
This information is neither secret nor is it “illegal”. It can easily be found at Strelkov´s or Interbrigada´s sites on the net. And on VK. There you can also find how to send money for humanitarian aid and other aid too.
OH well that’s good. I wouldn’t make any big announcements if I were on my way however.
I would be planning a vacation.
Cheers,
RR
Here you go:https://www.facebook.com/russell.b.bentley?fref=ts
thanks, I passed it on to someone…great..wish I could go there..but I have good excuse….
I think people could get in trouble for providing that kind of information-NATO Ukraine would call you a terrorist and Russia a volunteer.
Cheers,
RR
There is lots of interesting information on different topics on http://strelkov-info.ru/
Maybe worth a try… ;-)
There are recruiting offices in Rostov.
Or you can just go to Donetsk and walk in.
Approaching anyone you do not know officially represents the army is dangerous.
We can suggest to contact
https://www.facebook.com/russell.b.bentley
He could give actual answer.
Kind regards,
SouthFront: Analysis & Intelligence Team
Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:29
Syrian Forces, Allies Winning Battle against Militants near Kuweires Airbase in Aleppo
Syrian Forces, Allies Winning Battle against Militants near Kuweires Airbase in Aleppo
TEHRAN (FNA)- The Syrian Army, popular forces and Hezbollah fighters, backed up by Russian fighter bombers, are advancing against the ISIL terrorists in the surrounding areas of the Kuweires Airbase, military sources announced on Saturday.
The sources said that the Syrian soldiers, the National Defense Forces (NDF) and Lebanese Hezbollah fighters have seized back dozens of buildings in the town of Sheikh Ahmad after taking full control over the Southern and Central regions of the town.
In the meantime, the ISIL positions in Sheikh Ahmad and around the Kuweires airbase have been bombed by the Russian jets, which have resulted in heavy death toll of the terrorists.
The sources further added that the government forces are not very far from the airbase and are soon to end the over two-year-long siege on Kuweires.
On Wednesday, the army and NDF continued their operations against ISIL militants’ positions in Deir Hafer plains East of Aleppo to lay the ground for the complete removal of the over two-year long siege on Kuweires airbase.
The ISIL strongholds near the town of Sheikh Ahmad and near the strategic airbase of Kuweires were stormed by the Syrian army troops and the NDF fighters.
The sources said that the army is trying hard to hit the militant defense line in surroundings of Kuweires airbase to end its siege by the terrorist groups.
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940809000438
Islam often gets mis-translated as “religion of peace”.
But what kind of peace they have in mind could be seen in all areas that they brought under their control. Such as Serbia for almost half a millenium. Or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
Watch this in German (sadly not even auto-subs) : Udo Ulfkotte beschreibt die WAHRHEIT hinter PEgIdA – Ist das die Islamisierung des OKZIDENT? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laK83WTh0J4
well, I watched it for a minute…didn’t understand it sadly, but the museam where he was standing was beautiful and totally German…
By the way, I’m just finishing a book called “The Last Days of Lord Byron” and in it is of course quite a bit about Goethe…who loved Lord Byron…
Its a super book. All about Greece actually because after about the age 35 Lord Byron became obsessed with Greek Freedom..from the Turks, and he went there and gave the Greek legitimate government so much money and help against the occupation of the Turks, and then he died there of an illness…I think it must have been a brain tumor…
Its by General Parry…..and can be purchased as a re-print for $13. “The Last Days of Lord Byron”
Sigh, Greece, yes.
Greece directly and indirectly Cyprus is another such example.
See you later.
30 mins per night .. ok?
Here 7am, must continue this chapter and then I need to stand up in 4(!) hours, damn, cu later
Bye Martin
Martin, regarding your reference to the Armenian Genocide, the motivation of the Young Turks government had nothing to do with Islam. In fact Muslims saved Armenians from perishing as manifested from this letter sent by the Sunni Sherif of Mecca to all Muslims.
Decree issued in 1917 by the Sharif of Mecca for the Protection of Armenians
“What is requested of you is to protect and to take good care of everyone from the Jacobite Armenian community living in your territories and frontiers and among your tribes; to help them in all of their affairs and defend them as you would defend yourselves, your properties and children, and provide everything they might need whether they are settled or moving from place to place”
http://www.armenian-genocide.org/Affirmation.4/current_category.1/affirmation_detail.html
“The Catholicos of the Armenian Apostolic Church of Cilicia says the presence of the Armenian people was an obstacle to the ideological plans of the Young Turks. This is why the genocide was planned. Those who bring the clash between Islam and Christianity into the current controversy over the Armenian genocide, distort the reality”
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/aram-i-40372/
“Representatives of Armenian communities across Europe and the Middle East sent a letter to the UN asking for a resolution to ban the term ‘Islamic’ State, or ISIL, since the terror organization does not represent Islam.”
http://www.armenianlife.com/2015/10/08/armenians-ask-un-to-take-the-islam-out-of-is-isis-isil/
Perhaps the writings of Tacy Atkinson, an American Christian missionary, would help you understand who was behind the Armenian Genocide
“The German, the Turk and the Devil Made a Triple Alliance”
http://www.amazon.com/German-Turk-Devil-Triple-Alliance/dp/1903656001
Armenians understand the true nature of Islam, it is a religion of mercy and peace. Therefore we are thankful to our Muslim brothers and sisters who offered our great grand parents a safe refuge in the scorching desert of Syria.
Salaam
I was here only to check what is new. Now I find out Mohammed is back.
And of course – it had nothing to do with “peaceful merciful Islam”. No no. That’s probably the reason, why only Christians were massackered – had nothing to do with Islam. Not a thing. Like with ISIS and all your other “acts of happiness”.
Martin, these are not the words of Mohammad, but they are the words of the Armenian Catholicos on the 100th year commemoration of the Armenian Genocide. Catholicos Aram I is the highest authority within the ranks of the Armenian church. Please read again his words, and re-consider your conclusions on this subject matter.
“What happened against the Armenians, the genocide, was not because the Armenians were Christians. This was part of the pan-Turkish ideology and politics and plans of the Young Turks. And the Armenians were a major obstacle in terms of realising their pan-Turkish policy. They wanted to bring all these nations and countries of common Turkish ethnicity and culture together, under one pan-Turkish umbrella. And the Armenian persons were an obstacle. So they organised this crime, this genocide, because of that. Religion was NOT a factor.”
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/inquiries-and-interviews/detail/articolo/aram-i-40372/
Muslims, Christians and people of other confessions always lived peacefully in the Middle East. If there were conflicts between communities, they were the fault of politicians and national leaders.”
Fighters engaging in a bloody war need to be called terrorists, never Muslims…
likewise, US troops engaged in Middle East wars cannot be called Christian…
Fighters in a bloody war are soldiers, not terrorists. “Terrorist” is being used as a “feel bad” word to smear soldiers on the side you want to lose.
By definition, terrorists do not fight wars. Terrorism is seeking political change by preying on the civilian population in the hopes that it will be frightened and demoralized into changing the government.
The thinking is the same as the US sanctions “logic.” We will freeze the bank accounts of the Russian oligarchs so they will get rid of Putin to appease us.
“Terrorism is seeking political change by preying on the civilian population in the hopes that it will be frightened and demoralized into changing the government.”
So what would you call the IRA (Irish Republican Army) campaign in Northern Ireland during the 1970’s/80’s&90’s to shoot/bomb the British establishment and “Unionist” majority” (who forced the division of Ireland n the 1920’s against the overwhelming majority of citizens in the whole island of Ireland) out of Ireland.
Were the IRA “terrorists” or were they an army?
This IRA guy (Bobby Sands) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Sands felt he was not a “terrorist” so strongly that he starved himself to death.
Please do not be so dogmatic*** in your assertions.
***please refrain from unnecessary unkindness to other commenters – modaa
Two intriguing perspectives on what Obama is up to by sending in 50 SOF soldiers into Syria.
First is an interview with retired US Air Force Lieutenant Col Karen Kwiatkowski.
‘Calculated to put American troops in danger’: Why US wants escalation in Syria
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/320271-syria-us-troops-deployment/
The 2nd is an article by by Finian Cunningham
US Special Forces deployed as ‘human shields’ to salvage terror assets in Syria
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/320356-syria-us-troops-shields/
@ Steve
Very perceptive articles. The bottom line: the Russians hardly have option left, but to call the bluff and totally ignore this – and bomb the crap out of jihadists, with US “commandos” embedded or not.
The marines sure beat a path out of Lebanon in 1983 didn’t they.
Your right.
RR
@ Johan
I agree, and if we read between the lines of this report, then that is exactly what Russia is saying they will be doing. For what else can they do? I agree.
Russia says no country can use military force in Syria without government approval
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/30/us-mideast-crisis-russia-warning-idUSKCN0SO0U120151030
And also if this other report proves to be true, will reinforce that view in my mind. Russia is serious, and the Americans better take notice.
Russian elite units in Zabadani, Homs, Hama and Aleppo
http://fortruss.blogspot.co.nz/2015/10/russian-elite-units-in-zabadani-homs.html
Lavrov said the same thing…I wish I could find the quote he was unusually stern-however typically blunt.
RR
@RR
Is this what you were looking for?
However, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov criticised the Washington’s decision saying it had been taken “unilaterally and without any reference to the Syrian leadership.”
“I am convinced that neither the United States nor Russia of course want any kind of slide into a so-called proxy war. But to me it is obvious that this situation makes the task of co-operation between the militaries even more relevant,” Lavrov added.
The Syrian government labeled it an “intervention and act of aggression.
Combine these two statements together (probably calibrated deliberately to reinforce the message) and it sends an unambiguous message in ‘diplomatese’ to “back off!”
http://beta.trtworld.com/mea/russia-warns-of-middle-east-proxy-war-10367
http://www.hngn.com/articles/145920/20151101/syria-conflict-risks-proxy-war-between-russia-u-s-foreign.htm
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/10/31/435730/Russia-Foreign-Minister-Lavrov-proxy-war-US
Johan,
Exactly. Those who aid and abet terrorism – ‘moderate’ or otherwise – can expect to meet the same fate.
There is no popular mandate for US presence in Syria anyway, so I doubt Obama or the war-hawks could use American deaths as an effective pretext for escalation.
Should we laugh or should we cry? The ‘human shield’ idea is so beyond sane, one can only shudder in utter disbelief.
Is this the best ‘The ‘Exceptional Nation’ can come up with? Are our Western heroes that desperate? The whole parasite-elite completely out of their minds? Unbelievable!
Are these ‘human shields’ soldiers going to wear special pink dresses, holding placards with the hashtags like #SaveOurTerrorists, #Don’tShootMe, #GiveMeAttentionGiveMeSomeLove ?
Even a child can see that this is never going to work.
“… ‘human shields’ soldiers going to wear special pink dresses, holding placards with …”
The stress being on “pink” ;-) (rhymes with “the home of the gays” in The US National Anthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amFRTRMBk1A )
Borat, that poor horse going backwards and falling down…that was not a planned event..that girl could have been crushed…she would not do that on purpose…
Reminds me of the time I went to a meeting in a UK Baptist church and proclaimed that the USSR had been the only recent egalitarian society.
The reception to that statement made me feel like Daniel in the Lion’s den (if that yarn is true)
I hadn’t, at that time, figured out that the USSR was no more egalitarian than any other society.
Coming to think about it – maybe if the USSR had of got a bunch of Lion’s and fed them all the Christians then things could have worked out better…hmm.
OT: some Halloween humour.
Halloween Fail: Israeli Air Force Pumpkin Features Image of Russian Jet
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151101/1029427818/israeli-halloween-greeting-fail.html#ixzz3qFUWJDqz
US Special Forces deployed as ‘human shields’ to salvage terror assets in Syria
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/320356-syria-us-troops-shields/
Kill ’em with no mercy.
Were they the first to use nuclear weapons against Japan in WWII ? without any remorse whatsoever? How about the Indians?
“”Put back your sword again,” said Jesus, “for all who draw the sword shall perish by the sword.”
http://biblehub.com/matthew/26-52.htm
Russia is opting a nuclear strike on ISIS; The Kremilin is awaiting concent from its allies
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9b9_1446307867#ZdC8GwlJdvuYKhB7.99
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9b9_1446307867#5POPE5iKt3tV7Ajr.99
Let’s see who will survive a nuclear war…Good luck with your NWO, the philosophy shoved into your skull by your magos.
RE: anon 3:36 and the comment about Russia using nukes against isis. Next time don’t forget the winking smilie after, otherwise people could get the wrong idea and think you are being serious.
ok (i’m not the same anon though).
Well, why not just use a shed load of thermobarics…wait…wait…have they not already been doing that…or failing that, why not just use precision weapons, take them out one by one and let the “Russian” people start eating gruel again.
“watch how funding and arms dry up fast.” – are you joking? this is the reason why guys like Raytheon exist.
Russia is now using KAB1500 bombs, which even the US does not use. Seems IS is hiding in trenches. Russia has some big bombs, they don’t need any nuclear weapons. The FOAB Is like a 7000kg fuel air explosive that kills anything in a radius of like 2 km.. They have 5 ton earth penetrators that can take out bunkers like 200 feet under ground. Except for a very few nuclear bunkers and silos there is nothing on earth that can not be destroyed by weapons in regular inventory. They can level every town IS is holding with a couple of fuel air explosives and thermo barbaric missile batteries.
What is stopping the Syrian government or the Russian government is, using such weapons on a civilian population trapped would cause missions in casualties.. Like the many millions killed by the US occupation of Iraq. I doubt Assad would allow Russia to indiscriminatingly bomb civilian areas. He don’t have support of 80% of Syrians for no reason. Even the rebels and terrorists send their families to government held areas to be safe. While the US was holding women and children of anyone from insurgent areas in holding pens in Iraq.
Nothing like what the US would do is applicable here.. Putin will do what needs to be done, all terrorist supporters will be very afraid, watch how funding and arms dry up fast. There will be a massive escalation and eradication of IS in a few months. Preparation is foremost what Putin does. I fully expect turkey to dismantle their IS infrastructure and secret service. Most likely Russia will provide a list of Turkish agents to be liquidated to Turkish intelligence if they don’t comply..
Its important to remember while Russia (and Donbass) mourns the lost of victims of the crash in Egypt (including babies).There are some in Ukraine gloating with glee.And saying they are happy ,and there should have been more.Including a Ukrainian working for FFE. Hopefully Russia doesn’t forget that for the future.
To balance out the fascist gloating Ukrainians happy over the plane crash.Here is a report from Kharkov on the feelings of the decent Ukrainians (from Novorossia I might add):
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Kharkov is grieving.
Kharkov. 1.11.2015. The Consulate of the Russian Federation.
We were in the morning. Real flowers… Burning Candle… Soft toys…
It’s all the grief of the present of kharkov and present the ukrainians. People, сопереживающих misfortunes of others, and not радующихся deaths of peaceful, no innocent people. Surprised me a note in one of the bouquets ” from all the normal people in this crazy country. Mourn.” Hard…
The Russians, the family… These изрыгающие poison ghouls – it’s not the whole Ukraine. There were few of them, very little. Just a hysterical joy stubborn not hide in the pages of the social networks and their людоедских пабликов. There’s nothing we can do about it. God judge this нелюдям…
But today we are lit the candles in front of the consulate general and, in the church. It’s made millions of people throughout the world. Millions of people have been praying for. Millions of people are mourning.
Got a call from the kherson. They lit a candle in memory of the window, out with sorrow for the Russians who lost their lives on the street is dangerous. Think of it! It’s the scariest thing now in Ukraine. The fear that you would be beaten or killed, “Запакуют” in автозак or taken to the SBS.
But people come to the embassies and consulates to pay tribute to the memory of the victims of the terrible tragedy, to support the Russians at this difficult time. Each and every one of us wrote words of support to the families of the victims and the brotherly Russian people in the book, provided by the employee of the consulate. Every found the right words…
Let the earth will rest in peace who lost their lives in this terrible disaster. Let the relatives and close friends will find the strength to survive the death. May the Lord giveth and the kingdom of heaven all departed…
I just read on Sputnik that the Russian Airbus plane broke up im mid air. My sincerest condolences to the nearest and kin of the deceased. What a horrible world we have made for ourselves.
Sad to say it is begining to look more and more like foul play. For the plane to practically fall vertically to the ground while it broke up in mid air doesnt seem to me like it may be down to a mechanical failure, this points more to some sort of massive structural failure caused by some external agent.
But if this does turn out to be the case whoever carried out this monstrous crime and those that facilitated it have just made a fatal error of judgement. They have irreversibly crossed a line and sown the wind, and shall reap the whirlwind.
That particular plane was involved in a major “tail-strike” accident in 2001 and sustained major damage which was repaired. It’s quite conceivable that the tail opened up in flight causing the crash. It isn’t the first Airbus where such a repair has failed years later. No need for conspiracy theories, just wait for the Russians to release the black box data. Then watch Airbus squirm.
Who says the controllers of the mainstream media are the ‘enemies’ of Putin? Even as the plane was being blown out of the air, EVERY major news outlet carried the OFFICIAL story of how the pilot had radioed warnings about ‘mechanical’ problems earlier in the flight, and how air traffic control had diverted the flight path.
Meanwhile, two videos taken by people using phones with a cheap telephoto accessory, clearly showing a massive explosion on board the plane, where being removed from the Internet as fast as they were being uploaded. Official state trolls from GCHQ and the NSA blitzed forums like ‘Reddit’ and ‘Twitter’ with ‘proof’ that the videos were ‘fake’- yet not once has anyone proven these videos were taken at an early date of a different incident.
Let’s face it- everything points to a timed explosive smuggled in amongst the stored luggage. And the massive nature of the explosion points to special-ops experience of Britain, France, Israel or France. This doesn’t mean what happened was ‘official’- simply that someone with direct SAS or SEAL training, and access to first world bomb technology, used the kit to attack this plane. The USA, UK, Saudi Arabia and Israel has given so much modern weaponry and training to so many disgusting psychopaths, it was only a matter of time that some of these psychos went fully ‘rogue’.
Now we see how anything can be covered up (but after 9/11, a cover-up like this one is child’s play). A ‘mysterious’ lack of interest in the subject will be found in outlets you and I would assume would want to seek the truth.
If Putin admits the truth, then the people of Russia automatically know the West is to blame- for they provided everything the terrorists needed to carry out this atrocity. Russian public pressure would be a boot on Putin’s neck, and no leader likes that. However, if Putin pulls off a 9/11 style cover-up, he can leverage the incident behind the scenes to ‘hurt’ the Americans and Saudis. I’m sorry, but the game of geopolitical chess is that dirty.
Quickly bringing America’s illegal actions in entering Syria with their military against the wishes of the Syrian government before the UN would also be a sound measure ahead of potential confrontations with US forces operating uninvited in Syria.
ISIS original claim was they caused the destruction of the plane. they did not state they had shot it down.
The video of a twin engine plane exploding in mid air is constantly being removed from youtube and constantly uploaded again whereas other old videos put on youtube with title – russian plane crash are not taken down. MH17 a number of different videos were put up claiming to be MH17 and were not pulled down.
A bomb on board would indicate intelligence agencies were involved, so apparently ISIS started to claim it was shot down with MANPADS?
Not much to go on in the way of pictures, but the full length burnt wing laying on the ground with no sign of fire on the ground from at least 10 tons of fuel which is approx what would be required for the trip to Russia is strange.
A bomb close to the center tank blowing it open and rupturing the inner ends of the wing tanks? The fuel would be dumped from the center tank instantly, fuel pouring from the inner ends of the wing tanks feeding a fire until the wing tanks are drained, perhaps only a minute or two?
This scenario would match the video of a plane exploding then smoke pouring from what appears to be the area of the center tank.
The fuselage from the wings back to the tail section appears to be missing, but there may be pics available that I haven’t seen.
The tail ? No signs of fire on the tail section?
RT video from the air. Clearly shows the burnt out wing, structure still complete, no landing gear, no engines, no fire on the ground and everything behind the wing missing. The video shows what seems to be a trail of burnt debris back to the broken off unburnt tail ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV_2KF4KUrk
A high altitude pic of the crash site here showing outlying debris that seems to be scattered a fair distance out but all around the main wing forward fuselage section. no sign of the tail piece in this pic.
http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/russian-jet-broke-up-in-mid-air-too-earl?articleId=USKCN0SQ1H120151101&slideId=1091513056
Soon, in February, there will be two years since the Nazis grabbed the power in Kiev. In the meantime, there have been daily predictions of their imminent demise … then predictions of their financial default that would bring about their gradual demise … then there were all those idiotic Minsk “agreements” … and – and – nothing happened. Even their economic problems seem to have somehow disappeared (IMF just announced a change of rules to accommodate the Nazis)… All that is left is strained cheer-leading and sour humor of the predictors (and … more predictions…). Novorussian uprising is frozen solid, nothing bright on the horizon there. Syria does give (to us spectators and to Putin) temporary relief, but it doesn’t affect the “Ukraine” problem in the least. That one stubbornly refuses to go away.
> That one stubbornly refuses to go away.
Reminder: Just as DNR/LNR do, too.
They are still there. And what can the West do about it under Minsk2?
That’s the answer already.
True! But remember the DPR/LPR is only the tip of the iceberg.They are like Transnista compared to Moldova.Freeing all Novorossia or even better all of Ukraine is one thing.Keeping “life-support” on a sliver of the area is quite another.The hundreds of thousands of refugee’s can’t return with the fascist junta in power.Crimea can’t be safe.And the threat of major war is eternal in the region the way it is now.All the while fascism embeds itself among Ukrainians.In no way has this been a victory for our side.We haven’t lost everything.But that is all we can say about it,so far.
Fully agreed. I don’t deny that. Timing is everything.
No reasonable person believes the weekly “Russia invaded Ukraine” propaganda anymore. This would be different, had Russia indeed “invaded Ukraine”. I know and you know that such things are not even possible, because how can you invade an area that historically belongs to you!
I hate separatists. Because separatists are not in Donbas or PMR or Ossetia. Those are UNIONISTS. The only true separatists I see are in Kiev, Chisniau and Tiblissi.
But back to smart military strategies: Novorossiya can still return home when WW3 is raging (not only in the ME, where it is already doing so for years), which appears to be what the West wants and needs to rescue the USD.
Had Russia “annexed” Novorussia, history books would blame Russia for having started WW3.
America needs to engulf Europe into flames and ash. Everytime they succeeded with this, they got stronger, richer and more influential. Western European “politians” appear to appreciate whatever plans Uncle Sam has for us. See Soros’ migration freak show.
Maybe its purpose is not only to weaken Europe and spread Chaos, but in addition to start a second islamist front against Russia from the Western direction. At least in the longer run. Because the demographics show that Europe will be a muslim caliphate in less than 30 years.
Russia Destroys Greater Israel Dream
http://www.4thmedia.org/2015/10/russia-destroys-the-greater-israel-dream/
Congresswoman Tells the Truth About Syria on CNN (Video)
http://www.4thmedia.org/2015/11/congresswoman-tells-the-truth-about-syria-on-cnn-video/
Russian Plane “Broke Apart In The Air,” Officials Say As Investigators Frantically Search For “Clues”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-01/russian-plane-broke-apart-air-officials-say-investigators-frantically-search-clues
Ban Ki-Moon Condemns The American Stand On Syria, Endorses Putin’s
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-01/ban-ki-moon-condemns-american-stand-syria-endorses-putins
Putin’s Approval Rating Reaches A New High
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-01/putins-approval-rating-reaches-new-high
There was another airline that broke apart like that, I think it was air asia where they reinforced the broken seam in the rear with 3 rivets instead of 4 so at high altitude the structural integrity was weakened and the pressurization drop caused a massive decompression and caused the tail section to detach. Maybe it was a Taiwan airlines.. The problems come from people who don’t know what they are doing and think if they weld 2 joints together and its air tight, it will stay that way not knowing air differential and stress problems that come into play at different altitudes and situations. No matter what, I amongst others don’t think Russia will outright and blame anyone no matter what the cause.. But the situation itself needs an action. There is only one action that gets the expected reaction. Anything else would make it appear that Russia is weak and without the stamina needed to take on global terrorism. That would make the bully escalate the situation exponentially as now the ball is in their court. Any weakness or hesitation here would be taken advantage off.. Look how fast the special forces going to direct the moderate head chopping and liver eating rebels turned into a non-combatant role with the Kurds who are not rebels anyway and they wont take part in any military action.. Maybe they are there as cooks..
Japan Airlines Flight 123. Incorrect repair to an internal pressure bulk head after a tail-strike caused the explosive decompression and the vertical stabiliser to blow off
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123
American Airlines Flight 587. Vertical stabiliser broke off. Not related to repair.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587
I believe there was another incident where a damaged composite vertical stabiliser was repaired with rivets rather than correct composite repair.
On all these it is only the vertical stabiliser that has broken off, not the complete tail.
Russian Plane Disintegrated Due To “Mechanical Impact” Airline Claims, Hinting At Bomb Explosion
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-02/russian-plane-disintegrated-due-mechanical-impact-airline-claims-hinting-bomb-explos
And calculate under probability theory that such event, if it had been an “accident”, happens with such a scary timing and location between Egypt, Isarahell and SauDieArabische.
I don’t say that I don’t believe in accidents. There are in fact accidents: Planned ones.