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Past time for the “gloves” to come off.Anyone in their right mind should be able to see that the junta will not stop these attacks until they are “stopped”.
re: sitrep and the world . With the Ufa gatherings coming up the hegemon is going up the wall with irritation. and now add Greece. Here is a song about that from 1930’s USA called “some rob you with a six shot ; some rob you with a pen”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgG5iewt8xA#t=47
In the current hollywood movie “Spy” they let the ukrainian transvestite Verka Serduchka appear on stage to perform his 2007 hit “I want to sing … Russia Goodbye”.
The refrain is than interrupted by a fullscreen explosion a second before he can say “Russia Goodbye”.
The song in original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNr7Tln6B7g&feature=youtu.be&t=1m33s
He should have sung “Testicles, Goodbye”. Could have landed him (her? It?) a lot more royalties in Hollyweird than just one movie would bring. Its agent needs to think more about the bottom line.
I managed to watch four seconds.
Oh. My. God.
A tribute to the Greek people: words from a famous Woodie Guthrie song:
Come gather round me children, a story I will tell
Of Pretty Boy Floyd, an outlaw, Oklahoma knew him well
Was in the town of Shawnee on a Saturday afternoon
His wife beside him in the wagon as into town they rode
A deputy sheriff approached them in a manner rather rude
Using vulgar words of language and his wife she overheard
Well, Pretty Boy grabbed a long chain, and the deputy grabbed a gun
And in the fight that followed, he laid that deputy down
Then he took to the trees and rivers to lead a life of shame
Every crime in Oklahoma was added to his name
Yes he took to the trees and timbers on the Canada river shore
And the outlaw found a welcome at many a farmer’s door
Yes, there’s many a starving farmer, the same story told
How the outlaw paid their mortgage and saved their little home
Others tell about the stranger who came to beg a meal
And underneath the napkin left a thousand dollar bill
It was in Oklahoma City, it was on a Christmas day
Came a whole carload of groceries and a letter that did say
Well, you say that I’m an outlaw, and you say that I’m a thief
Here’s a Christmas dinner for the families on relief
Well, as through the world I’ve rambled, I’ve seen lots of funny
men
Some rob you with a sixgun, some with a fountain pen
As through this world you ramble, as through this world you roam
You’ll never see an outlaw drive a family from its home
I saw this new article on Ft Russ today.It is a stark reminder of who we are fighting against.And of the way they conduct themselves.As someone said the other day “We are not like them”:
“#BeerForLimbs: American instructors treat limbless Ukrainian vets as props for war training”
So this video is about as messed up as it gets – US instructors, sent to Ukraine to train Ukrainian army to kill its own citizens in East Ukraine, are training soldiers to evacuate the wounded using limbless veterans of the civil war in the East.
“Putin’s troll factory” keeps accusing the Ukrainian government of being fascist. This reeks of it – Nazi’s didn’t mind using humans as guinea pigs in their twisted experiments.
This video is proof of how the US instructors and the government in Kiev treats people it sent to die in Donbass. These people, who are praised as “heroes” are thrown into dirt and mud – something any normal army uses mannequins for. And that proves one thing clearly – for his government and the Americans like John McCain, Hillary Clinton, Victoria Nuland, U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham and others backing it, this disabled, limbless Ukrainian soldier, now has the same value as a piece of lifeless plastic.
I showed this video to Алексей Журавко , my Facebook friend, who was Ukraine’s ombudsman for the disabled 2013-2014. He was shocked and appalled. Not only does this treatment go against everything the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities of 2006 stands for, it goes against the Geneva Conventions – a civilized army would not treat POW’s the way Ukrainian government and American instructors treat this man – a Ukrainian!!
What kind of future awaits Ukraine if even the people who gave up almost everything for Kiev’s bloody civil war are treated this way? Петро Порошенко calls the armed coup in Kiev in 2014 “Revolution of dignity”. Throwing a limbless veteran (who is most likely suffering from post-traumatic disorder) into simulated combat, reminding him of the most tragic day of his life is what is considered “dignity” in modern day Ukraine…
The worst part (you don’t see it in this video, but it was in another I can’t currently find), was when the American instructor tells the veteran that he (the American) will buy him a beer for his troubles.
Americans love to come up with catchy-sounding programs – “Cash for Clunkers”, “Oil for Food”, I suggest we call America’s support of the warmongering government in Kiev “Beer for Limbs” from now on – #beerforlimbs
Dear friends, this can not stand! I ask my American lawyer friends to help me and Oleksiy Zhuravko draft a formal request to the U.S. Army , Barack Obama, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, U.S. Military on Facebook, Military.com, International Association for Disabled Sailing (IFDS), Disability.gov, Invisible Disabilities Association, Disabled Veterans’ LIFE Memorial , etc, to explain if using disabled war veterans as mannequins is common practice in US Army training.
I ask any doctors out there to analyse what such subhuman treatment might do to the psyche of a man who lost his limbs in war.
I ask all decent lawyers, journalists, politicians, humanitarians and diplomats like Congressman Ron Paul Rand Paul, Dana Rohrabacher, Earl Blumenauer, Sergey Gladysh ,Tatyana Igorevna, Ilya Lisunov, Evgeny Agoshkov, МИД России and others to help file formal complaints to the United Nations Human Rights
the United Nations Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities and others.
I ask my friends who served in the US Armed Forces – Michael Gonen, Janis Butkevics, John Mooney, Chris Yeazel, Joshua David and others to please tell me if treating disabled PTSD veterans like this is common practice for American soldiers?
You can think whatever you want of Putin, Crimea, Ukraine or anything else for this matter. But if you have a shred of human decency, you will be appalled by this video. This is apolitical. This is a matter of morals and ethics. Please help me write the letters and complaints, and please help spread the word of this – no human being, especially one who suffered such loss, should be treated this way!
Shame on these American instructors! Shame on Ukrainian Army!
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/07/hobeerfo-limbs-american-instructors.html
@Uncle Bob1
This incredibly horrendous story remind me all of the books written about the Nazi camps in Europe during the WWII. Even animal would never treat somebody like that. I hope that the all world will have a chance to see this inhuman treatment and stand up against this primitive bastards
The saddest and most horrible thing is, they probably did it for a lousy 50 hryvinia or so, now worth about $1.20, just enough to buy one meal, because there are no pensions, no disability, no free artificial limbs, no nothing, and they can’t “prove” they were in the war so they don’t even get the pay they were promised.
@ KAT KAN,
I’d be the last person to stand up for anything closely related to fascism. However, based upon personal experiences, it’s understandable for the military to train soldiers in how to deal with wounded comrades. The news we see and read is sanitized, so most people have no clue what horrendous wounds look like, let alone how to deal with them.
No matter where they’re told, there are always 2 side to a story.
U B 1, I watched the whole video and I don’t get: 1) Why allow someone to film this? It is a devastating flank against US intervention into Ukraine, if proven. Is it proven? Stupid not to use manniquens for training but beyond insane to use limbless vets who groan in pain whenever they are moved. 2) How to get over the disbelief that they could be so stupid and the other side (DPR) did not so this for propaganda purposes? I didn’t catch any English voices on the audio, and Ukrainian or Russian voices can be either side. 3. How to prove where this was filmed and come to a reasonable conclusion about WHY it was filmed? Makes no sense to film it or allow someone to film it and get it into the “wrong” hands.
Q; How to prove where this was filmed and come to a reasonable conclusion about WHY it was filmed?
R; First we gotta get it out of the anonymous atmosphere… and take it from there…
The location is called Kill House. It is on the “National Guard” training ground at the Yavorovsky landfill in the Lviv region, where 173rd Airborne Brigade is training the death squads. The building is roofless so everyone can see what’s going on and how to do it. It also has standalone doors (for breaking down) and various corridors and stairways to practice house to house fighting, visible in other videos floating around.
They (Right Sector) are making and releasing these videos themselves, thinking they’re being smart and it’s good PR to show they’re getting their money’s worth. Or someone’s money.
An earlier video was accompanied by a trainer complaining they need more work on rescuing wounded colleagues, as they usually do not pick up their wounded so have no idea how to do it. (True they are more used to being hit by artillery while stationary, not by bullets on the move).
In the earliest scenes the guy entering the frame at the left is in the US desert camouflage with a loose shirt(?) over a biggish belly.
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Decades ago I did a rescue course; the final exam scene was a collapsed school (unspecified cause). Real kids were placed under “collapsed” desks and debris, their injuries (which we had to triage on the spot) being very gory photos of real injuries printed on transparencies and taped to them. I said to one kid “stop laughing, under the tomato ketchup half your face is blown off” so they all started groaning quite realistically. Then quite genuinely, when we tossed them over a balcony on stretchers attached to thin ropes. Ahhh the good old days…. Came in handy a few times over the years.
Many US military are dumb.
There are quiet few video and photo materials they have produced themselves, which in hinside turned out to be disastrous for US military image.
Remember Abu Ghraib photos? http://tracesofreality.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/abughraib.jpg
Remember Afghan videos? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7PHOa8eBrU
@Kat Kan and Uncle Bob1
Couldn’t the wounded veteran have simply chosen to help his countrymen better prepare for the trials of modern warfare? They’re about to be baptized in the fury, blood and misery of war, being sensitive about appearances is the least of their concerns. Why is it necessary to assume the worst- he did it for a handout, or he’s being abused against his will. Who else besides the military will need and care for the disabled vets? Lots of combat vets even in the USA gladly volunteer to help in the preparation of the next generation of warriors, especially in the case of the most grievously wounded ones. It gives them a sense of purpose and sustains their faith in the cause for which they were maimed. They feel more at home amongst warriors than the pretended sympathy of “normal” civilians. Being offended by this demonstration speaks more to the sensitivities of propagandists and third party onlookers than the veterans and soldiers involved. Just a different perspective.
I’m not a friend of the Alex Jones program at all, but this was the article on his site.
Saker is probably right, we have to hope that this will never happen in the future
http://www.prisonplanet.com/us-preparing-coup-to-prevent-greece-from-falling-under-russian-influence.html
Meantime according to NAF sources, while generally trench warfare continues at the front, the Kiev regime recently started to use “occupy” no-man’s-land tactics, trying to take pieces of territory between positions of the combatants, even if it has no tactical value.
This probably explains higher Ukrainian personnel casualties like in the report from from militiaman with the callsign “Owl”.
Short “numeric” summary of the situation on the fronts of the LNR or more precisely what I know about this situation…
For today ( July 7) 47 attacks(by Ukrainian side) on all fronts, we answered 17 times, 2 times from AGS.
NAF casualties: 37-“300”, no machinery destroyed today but up to two dozen units damaged!
UAF casyalties: 4-“200”, 29-“300”, minus 2 APCS and IFVs, as well as an anti aircraft system.
http://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_65896
A filmed report just in from NewsFront shows an extensive interconnected UAF trench system clearly intended for an offensive. They say Right Sector are evident.
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=2&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&u=http://news-front.info/2015/07/08/pozicii-vsu-vozle-poselka-zolotoe-v-lnr-tyazheluyu-texniku-okkupanty-i-ne-dumali-otvodit/&usg=ALkJrhhFFdbmSdteELZFPagkEnDtQT705Q