SouthFront, next Ukie report, please include the situation and order of battle on the ground. There have been many violations, death and destruction again caused by Ukie criminal actions transgressing Minsk 2.
How do things look around the whole perimeter? And maybe some words on the fact that many Ukie “civilians” are returning to Donbass and could be agents of disruption, sabotage, assassination and espionage against the Republics.
What will happened with Donbass? Minsk has been postponed now until 2016 to give it a chance, but Kiev has not finished a single point on the minsk agreement, even the blockade against the Donbass civilians are still on, is the postponement a desperate act by Russia and EU that wants to avoid war, but USA controls Ukraine and refuses to allow them to perform any part of the Minsk agreement, thus making a war in Europe between at minimum Russia nad Ukraine unavoidable or does Russia have some sort of masterful plan?
The way it seems to me now is that, EU and Russia wants peace, they want status que, they want to return to as it was before, and the Minsk agreement is the only way.. But USA controls Kiev and wont allow Kiev to perform the Minsk agreement.
And soon another president will be elected in USA, most likely an absolute lunatic, infact I think all of them execpt Trump has openly stated they will bomb Russian bases in Syria, shoot down Russan planes, and supply Ukraine with the most advanced weapons.
At the risk of being repetitious, after Minsk II has had its current terminus ad quem, sometime in Feb. 2016, when it’s provisions are now supposed to have been fulfilled, a formal Russian protectorate over the Donbass, like that of France over Tunisia and Morocco at one time, would freeze the situation for all concerned. Russia thereby would guarantee the DNR and LNR against outside attack, including immediate retaliation against artillery and air attacks, then deploy a brigade or so of contract troops, which can be used outside country, to the polygon between Rostov-Na-Danu and Taganrog near the border, maybe from the airborne division nearby at Novorossisk, The Ukraine, its puppet master, and the vassals thereof, would no doubt yowl mightily. But the situation would be frozen, without any overt violation of international law (which the West dispenses itself from anyway) as a casus belli. An open border and free trade between the Donbass and Russia should make it economically viable, effectively a de facto annexation.
I have seen thesaker argue that Kiev will get the borders back, if it carried out the Minsk agreement, but if it didn’t the opposite would happen and Russia would be legally allowed to maintian control over the borders. How this would differ from the current situation I am not certain.
” a formal Russian protectorate over the Donbass, like that of France over Tunisia and Morocco at one time, would freeze the situation for all concerned. Russia thereby would guarantee the DNR and LNR against outside attack,”
-What is your source for this? I have heard similar theories before, the problem with them is that, that is exactly what USA would want. Because that would force Russia to officialy defend Donbass if it was attacked, which would activate all sorts of international rules and allow for increased sanctions on Russia. But if Russia did not guarantee Donbass security, as the situation is now, Russia can still protect Donbass, covertly, but without getting into trouble with international law.
” But the situation would be frozen, without any overt violation of international law ”
-Except when Ukraine attacked Donbass and Russia defend Donbass and thus invaded a sovereign defenceless democracy according to USA.
If Russia did as you said, the situation would be the same as with Georgia, and we all know what Georgia under the control of USA did.
“An open border and free trade between the Donbass and Russia should make it economically viable, effectively a de facto annexation.”
-That does not seem to be working out so far, and would Russia pay pensions in Donbass? Else a lot of people in Donbass would starve.
The problem is that the sliver of Novorossia that is free is too small.Only by freeing at a “minimum” all the occupied Oblasts could the region be viable.And of course freeing all Novorossia would be the middle ground.With freeing all Ukraine the best and maximum solution.Unlike many other,I believe it is possible to free all Ukraine without actual Russian troops.I believe that Ukrainian forces supplied by Russia (and Russian volunteers) could do the job.It would be hard,but with each victory.And each freeing of territory,you would see more and more Ukrainians leaving the “dark side” and joining the liberating army.Until we would see Ukrainians in Kiev overthrow the junta and ask for peace.That is the scenario used a thousand times in situations like this.It worked in those situations and it will work (if tried) in this one.The NAF has now been built,and could function as the core of a liberating army.What is needed is a political leadership to be created.And for Russia to recognize that leadership as the “legal” government of Ukraine.Which they would then be able to openly arm.Certainly NATO would scream to high heaven about it.But then other than also arm the junta forces,that is all they would do.Russia would need to tell them that if NATO doesn’t intervene neither will Russian troops.But that if NATO does attempt an intervention Russian troops will prevent that.No matter what we hear,I don’t believe that NATO would send troops knowing that would mean WW3.As long as Russia didn’t send troops,NATO would be able to say “well,its a battle between Ukrainians”,as an excuse for their public.They would continue and increase the sanctions on Russia certainly.But does anyone really think they are going to remove them.The West has no reason to do that.And I doubt they will.So their is nothing really lost there.While the freeing of Ukraine gives Russia (with Crimea) security on her Western borders from NATO bases.Gives Russia and a pro-Russian government control of the entire North coast of the Black Sea.Defeats the threat of a fascist maidan in Russia being plotted and aided by the junta.Free’s 40 million “Russians” from fascist terror.Allows Ukraine with its resources ,farm land,educated population,minerals, to join the EEU.Rremember Ukraine was during the USSR one of the industrial powerhouses in the country.The plants may be closed down in many cases.But the technical “know how” is still there.Its just not put to any productive use.It was also a breadbasket of the USSR.The farmland is still there to be put to use,to cut the need for food imports from anywhere outside the “Rus lands”.If a total WW3 is avoided,then this war will be fought on a country by country field.And losing a country of geographical importance like Ukraine to the empire is not a good idea.The future benefits of a pro-Russian Ukraine (to me) outweigh anything else.And if we are doomed to a WW3,having a hostile pro-NATO Ukraine is a serious geographical problem.
This report leaves me cold, starting with the steely cold machine man striking a match in the cover picture. A once proud country, although corrupt, is reduced to ashes and pretense. The Empire’s work is done there and has moved on to the next stage of its campaign.
Through infiltrators called refugees Europe is being softened up for the kill similar to the fate of Ukraine. The boa constrictor can already smell Russia.
This site is dedicated to help Russia and so am I.
Russia is preparing for the end game and so am I.
It was Russia’s effete, supercilious, hollowed out high-class traitors that gave the Communists their Trojan horse opportunity in days past. I see no reason why this condition does not still exist.
I think Putin and his comrades in arms know the score. Outnumbered ten to one, they know they cannot over-react and mess up now. In the meantime they dissemble in order to make the enemy mistake their manners for complicity.
I know only what I read here and there. I put the pieces together as best I can. Like the Russian peasants I watch with interest, take my pensions, watch the news, hope for the best and prepare for the worst, while the best of the children work assiduously to save their country.
In desperate times, I turn to literature of previous and similar periods that express what I cannot.
“Good now, sit down, and tell me, he that knows,
Why this same strict and most observant watch
So mightily toils the subject of the land,
And why such daily cast of brazen cannon,
And foreign mart for implements of war;
Why such impress of shipwrights, whose sore task
Does not divide the Sunday from the week;
What may be toward, that this sweaty haste
Doth make the night joint-labourer with the day:
Who is’t that can inform me?”
“And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars:
See that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass,
But the end is not yet.”
I don’t put much stock in prayers but I cannot be persuaded that a virtuous life has no effect on the world’s circumstances. With a pack of vices on my back, I soldier on, not with rifle and boots but with peace and love in my roots.
Someone said Those Syrian snipers being women were a PR stunt.. That might be but even the Iranian army has women although they are only the reserve forces. The women are used due to their shooting abilities and Ofcourse they are protected by men. This is not a sunni trait so you wont find any women in the Pakistani forces but there are a lot of them in the indian army and police force. They worked in the Libyan army as well and they smacked some Saudi secret service agents.. Not sure about Iraq but I know they had women in everything except any fighting units. So women in the army is not just a western trait.. How about all those women in the soviet army?
So this picture is also a fake? 5 years ago I might agree.. But not now.. Syria or Iran are not some GCC country. A lot of women in the US army get raped.. Well guess what, so do a lot of guys! So high profile news about women’s rights are not the entre picture on how a country treats its women. Why do Iranian jews not move to Israel? Israel has been trying to get them to move for decades. And why did most indian jews move to Israel? They were the upper class and had money yet they moved. And the same with jews from many other countries.. They did not move because they were oppressed in many cases. And they sure would not stay if they were oppressed.
The only reason not to use women in some units is because of the logistics problems of needing special needs.. Which means more care about the wellbeing of the soldier.. etc.. Its not usually worth the extra effort.. But that does not mean there are no women in some units where such facilities are available.. We also never see women pilots, ship captains, train drivers etc.. But they also exist.. The west is not so progressive after all..
Whenever I see reports on the decline of Ukrainian industry (especially the defense industry) I’m reminded and saddened,thinking of how great that industry was when Ukraine was united with Russia in the USSR.And also that much/most of it is/was located in the Novorossian regions of Ukraine.Think how more prosperous and important Kharkov would be today if traitors hadn’t destroyed the union.And how a year ago,they and the West,destroyed Ukraine herself.
But come on – industry or jobs or living under a roof was never part of the package. So let’s not complain about the innocent lovely West who risked their lives trying to rescue us well-heartedly and without anyyyyyy interest. It’s alllllllllll the fault of the communists and the Bolsheviks and the Soviet Union and Putin and Lenin and comrade Stalin and what not. Damn, the Ukrainians who tick like that probably need a new pill at this point (give them 5 minutes to relax!).
Ok, everybody back, then let’s continue: Reference: I’m not joking, in 1990 West-Germany did in fact promise us “blossoming sceneries”.
And in fact we got them, only not in the expected manner. In only a few months the entire industry of former East-Germany got closed down and literally destroyed overnight. Now the West had a new market to sell their “goods” (bads?!) and at the same time could get rid of its cheaper but nevertheless often world-class competitors.
I told all this those zombies near Kiev, Zhitomir, Ternopol, Iwano-Frankowsk, Lwow since 2008. Nobody believed me. Their only explanation: I’m a KGB agent. Oh well – what a compliment ;)
911 Verdict: Well and good. The ‘Judeo-Christian’ Pindos setting themselves ablaze for good measure amounts to poetic justice at its very finest as far as I am concerned. I take exactly the same view by the way regarding the Exceptionals’ quite impressive shooting sprees; most notably in the schoolyards. As long as the Pindos blow each others’ heads off in ever increasing numbers at ever lower ages, I’m kind of pleased.
The actual strictly forbidden truth about 911 is the instant rejoice it evoked in all the “non-exceptional” peoples of the world.
Oh sure, Nussiminen, satanic NWO elites sacrifice 3000 innocent Americans and that gets your rocks off?? And more fools should join your circle jerk to empower more false flag sacrifices of innocents? Or was everyone in the twin towers on its final day “guilty”, in your book?
Query: The leaders of Russia and China “rejoiced” to see that their strategic opponents are that evil and may take this global struggle to species extinction of the human race? ABSURD!
Please get a grip on your hatreds and prejudices before they generate even worse nonsense.
Is there a difference between the “rejoicing” that you approve of re: 911 and jihadis, Brits, neocons or Ukies celebrating the deaths of the Russian tourists in the Sinai? I see no difference.
While I can agree with Nussiminen that many many of our fellow western zombysheeples are guilty due to their stupidity and through their inaction and at least passive support I cannot feel any joy if 3000 arbitrary citizens are being murdered. Especially since thouse who would have deserved it (because of their attitude, job role etc.) did not go to work on that day in the first place …
Those who died were lower class people, not even necessarily US-Americans. It also includes tourists and all sorts of poor service personnell for example.
This deadth spiral of Chaos management will sooner or later expand to Europe and affect my own relatives.
I see little fun in it.
Ofcourse the Israeli’s knew about it. If you were folling it at the time they said they tried to warn about some attacks but were told everything was under control. Maybe some Israeli’s were also involved but I don’t think the Israeli government itself had anything to do with it. The evidence was so overwhelming that they decided to document it and trace all the players and they had quite a large intelligence gathering operation going on. They were all captured and shipped back to Israel.. But Israel did warn all the jews to leave dangerous areas..
I don’t see how someone knowing about an event would make them responsible for it. I am sure the use the info to get something out of it, In that sense Israel is out there to leech money or goods.. But to say a country so weak would do anything to attack their own hope in the world.. I dont know the entire story of liberty but looking at it, I think that was another false flag and someone wanted Israel to attack the ship to use as an excuse for some gain.. But it did not work… Now most countries do use minor false flag events.. But very few use them in such a way as to use it for global domination and imperialistic gains and has become an art form.. Any other country and we can implicate someone else a lot more than what we can do here without knowing anything of the inner working of what happened.. You know just because they mow the lawn every few years don’t mean they steal organs from their friends.. Remember, even criminals have friends.. They don’t attack their friends without orders and an ironclad guarantee that they wont be held responsible.. Especially if that friend you are attacking can smash you like an ant and give you sugar to grow fat every year.
Instead of all this we should be focusing on why cheney told the airforce to stand down…. Why the CIA placed bets on airlines and the like.. Israel does have pull but they are not even in the 5 eyes.. Why aren’t they in it if they were so powerful.. Even new Zealand is in it..
That’s where we differ I think.I believe the Israelis were up to their eyeballs in the 9/11 plot. I have no concrete evidence of that.But their history and circumstantial evidence makes me believe that.The Israeli intelligence services are masters at using groups (and have been since before the State Of Israel came into being) for their purposes.A couple of examples,they used bombs and disinformation throughout the MENA to get Jews to immigrate to Israel.They had long time agents highly placed in Egypt,Syria,and Iraq (probably others I don’t know about) for years,feeding them information.And giving out misinformation to those governments.In the 1980’s they co-opted groups of Islamic fundamentalists in Palestinian territories to form Hamas as a counter to the secular PLO.They hoped to use them to destroy the PLO and break Palestinian unity.That backfired on them as Hamas became their most hated enemy in Palestine.But it worked for them also in breaking Palestinian unity.And turning many Palestinians away from secularism.During the 1950’s the US intelligence services was so concerned about them that there was an unwritten rule that no Jewish-Americans were allowed to work on the ME case desks.They knew that Israel used Jewish-Americans and other Zionists in their operations (they deny it ,but history shows that’s a lie),and didn’t know if they could trust them not to give Israel the information.That changed later,and the Pollard spy case shows that they were right to worry about that.But considering the history of the kind of operations Israel runs.I can easily see them hearing about a group of amateur plotters wanting to attack the US.And them getting involved in the plot helping them out .Anything and everything that can make Americans anti-Arab (Muslim) and pro-Israeli is good for Israel.So the plot of 9/11 was a bonanza for them.They would have needed people in the US government to help as well (I believe).And since an attack served both the US governments interests,as well as Israels.I can believe they worked together.With probably the US taking the lead inside the US.And the Israelis taking the lead outside the US.It wouldn’t have been hard to guide the plot to where they wanted it to go.With co-operation from some US elements.And willing dupes among Arab jihadis.It would be a slam-dunk for an intelligence service with Israels skills to carry off.That attack gave Israel the US on a platter.And gave the US government what they wanted to dominate the MENA and create a “security state” in the US.Without the public even seriously questioning it.
“Is there a difference between the ‘rejoicing’ that you approve of re: 911 and jihadis, Brits, neocons or Ukies celebrating the deaths of the Russian tourists in the Sinai?”
Yes, and at several different levels too.The rejoicing that I approve of — and feel myself — was that of the global 99% expressing their total hatred of Western imperialism, despite the latter’s promotion of the wondrous joys of faggotry and colour revolutions (alongside corporate fascist tyranny 24/7). The fate of the Russian airliner, by contrast, was welcomed first and foremost by butthurt Westerrn supremacists duly accompanied by the, ahem, very cute running dogs of Empire elsewhere. Comparing their reactionary rage and hysteria to the global 99% isn’t even appropriate in the more specific case of the rent-a-jihadi head-choppers suffering Russian airstrikes in Syria. The airliner passengers had zero connection to the Russian Government and Military whereas the 911 attacks targeted the WTO and, yes, the Pentagon (with the attempted strike against the White House failing).
Better believe me: The moral stature of the Ukros, the Pindos, and the ISIS head-choppers wouldn’t improve the slightest even if Russia dropped off the face of the Earth and 911 never happened. If a gargantuan intellectual such as George Bush sanctioned the attacks on his own flag-waving underlings, it would be ironically appropriate.
Nussiminen, you and I are agreed on many details of the rot of the Empire and its residents. But why use such things as a reason to rejoice a false flag event used to justify the wars of aggression BY the Empire? You can’t make that make sense to me. But lots of feelings make little sense.
You’ve outlined how you feel. I question your judgment of how very much of humanity feels. Very few of the 99% shared your joy on 911. Far more were correctly suspicious of a false flag, and realized that that kind of sick stunt would not be good for any normal human being anywhere.
But apparently you “felt” that it was good for you, because of how it made you “feel” and that trumps what would be good for the rest of humanity, which is to escape this insane Empire driven spiral towards ever greater degrees of mass death. Such feelings as you expressed should be questioned, and not shared, IMHO.
911 — Answers regarding the point in rejoicing and gloating:
1) Doing so breaks the social cohesion of the fascist West outright. The unison, cowardly boohooing of the Western Left about the “monstrous” attacks was precisely the go-ahead which the warmongering 1% was counting on. Another total triumph of imperialist, chauvinist reaction just as in Europe, August 1914.
2) If the Pindo government and Deep State did mastermind the whole thing, then the correct thing to point out is that it was a complete utter waste of precious time, money, and planning efforts. Back in 2001, Westerners in general and Pindos in particular would have zero complaints about all-out imperialist rampage for no apparent reason. Their self-entitlement philosophy doesn’t need any “Pindo martyrs” at home to yearn for wanton destruction, rape, and genocide abroad.
3) What’s absolutely clear is that condemning the attacks today as being atrocious is totally misplaced. You cannot, however much you’d like to, bless Uncle Satan. He works in vile and heinous ways.
Nussiminen, if anyone is “blessing Uncle Satan” it would be he who cheers Uncle Satan’s 911 atrocity then OR now, and instead deems it “good”, like Netanyahoo did. “Good for Israel”.
The “social cohesion” worth breaking up is the stupid gullibility in accepting the absurd official story. Your gloating does nothing to break that up. You seem instead to egg it on.
And again, I find your justifications for gloating simply perverse. Not quite as perverse as 911 itself, because they are not nearly as important or as harmful by 8 or 10 orders or so of magnitude, minimally. Removed – you have made your point – no need to attack the commenter any further.Mod TR.
Sunday, November 8, 2015 1:57 PM
Russia’s Next Target Libya and Yemen ‘to Protect Russian interests’: Putin
Russia Russia’s Next Target Libya and Yemen ’to protect Russian interests’: Putin Vladimir Putin has issued his strongest warning yet of fresh military interventions in the Middle East, with lawless Libya and war-torn Yemen in the Kremlin’s crosshairs. The Russian president said his priority was to protect citizens living abroad, regardless of where they were.
That could include action to safeguard Russians living in the North African state of Libya, which has been ravaged by violent ISIS terrorists since the fall of dictator Colonel Gaddafi.
Speaking at the fifth World Congress of Compatriots in Moscow, Mr Putin said: “People who are not in Russia due to various reasons should be firmly sure: we will always protect your interests.
“Moreover, in difficult and crisis situations, such as in Libya, Syria or Yemen.”
I don’t see his words meaning what some thought they meant.He was talking first,about actual RF citizens.And though to me “Russians” means Russians.Under legal terms the ethnic Russians of Ukraine aren’t “Russians”,and certainly not RF citizens.And yes,Crimea is a different story.Its strategic position and history make it different.I believe Putin meant he would protect RF citizens in other countries.As in “help them get out”,sent a plane or Spetsnaz to help them.Not that he intended to move large forces to intervene in those countries.The Syrian help is another of those “different stories”.Russia has a long history from the USSR being involved with Syria.Its important to Russia (and her allies) because of its location.And as a “symbol” of what is wrong with US color revolutions.And he came to help Syria only after getting the Syrians to formally request that help.So I wouldn’t put any faith in thinking Russia was going to get involved in any other countries (at least not before the Syrian and Ukrainian situations are settled).
Well the Saudi;s were threatening to shoot down a RF plane and with RF in them.. So I am sure what he meant was he wont sit idly by while others threaten RF citizens. A day later the RF plane was allowed to depart.. I hate it that we never hear the reason WHY something like this happen. With the US it would all be front page news with carter foaming at the mouth about US citizens being put in danger would receive a nuke.. We saw quite a few turns here without hearing anything about it. In fact we don’t hear anything about turkey being under Russian sanctions.. Seems Iran is also not helping them get around it. The more erdo raises his throne, the tighter the noose around his neck. Makes me think erdo has not learnt from porkey..
“General Sir Nicholas Houghton, the chief of the defence staff, criticised the UK policy of restricting RAF air strikes to neighbouring Iraq.”
this ‘soldier’ should not even be talking about political matters.
The US ‘coallition’ is illegal and the ‘bwitish’ parliament has already voted against involvement in Syria.
To those outside the UK…..please understand ‘Great Britain’ is not and never has been a democracy.
The recent election: …..74% of the electorate did not vote for this government………on voting day Camoron and crew received 35.9%, the other parties 64.1%………gerrymander…called “first past the post”.
Not many who died in 1914-1918 even had the right to vote,in the II world war, an 18 year old could be conscripted but could not vote.
SouthFront, next Ukie report, please include the situation and order of battle on the ground. There have been many violations, death and destruction again caused by Ukie criminal actions transgressing Minsk 2.
How do things look around the whole perimeter? And maybe some words on the fact that many Ukie “civilians” are returning to Donbass and could be agents of disruption, sabotage, assassination and espionage against the Republics.
Your satirical reports a good. Thank you.
http://southfront.org/04-11-2015-military-report-of-novorossia/
http://southfront.org/03-11-2015-military-report-of-novorossia/
What will happened with Donbass? Minsk has been postponed now until 2016 to give it a chance, but Kiev has not finished a single point on the minsk agreement, even the blockade against the Donbass civilians are still on, is the postponement a desperate act by Russia and EU that wants to avoid war, but USA controls Ukraine and refuses to allow them to perform any part of the Minsk agreement, thus making a war in Europe between at minimum Russia nad Ukraine unavoidable or does Russia have some sort of masterful plan?
The way it seems to me now is that, EU and Russia wants peace, they want status que, they want to return to as it was before, and the Minsk agreement is the only way.. But USA controls Kiev and wont allow Kiev to perform the Minsk agreement.
And soon another president will be elected in USA, most likely an absolute lunatic, infact I think all of them execpt Trump has openly stated they will bomb Russian bases in Syria, shoot down Russan planes, and supply Ukraine with the most advanced weapons.
At the risk of being repetitious, after Minsk II has had its current terminus ad quem, sometime in Feb. 2016, when it’s provisions are now supposed to have been fulfilled, a formal Russian protectorate over the Donbass, like that of France over Tunisia and Morocco at one time, would freeze the situation for all concerned. Russia thereby would guarantee the DNR and LNR against outside attack, including immediate retaliation against artillery and air attacks, then deploy a brigade or so of contract troops, which can be used outside country, to the polygon between Rostov-Na-Danu and Taganrog near the border, maybe from the airborne division nearby at Novorossisk, The Ukraine, its puppet master, and the vassals thereof, would no doubt yowl mightily. But the situation would be frozen, without any overt violation of international law (which the West dispenses itself from anyway) as a casus belli. An open border and free trade between the Donbass and Russia should make it economically viable, effectively a de facto annexation.
I have seen thesaker argue that Kiev will get the borders back, if it carried out the Minsk agreement, but if it didn’t the opposite would happen and Russia would be legally allowed to maintian control over the borders. How this would differ from the current situation I am not certain.
” a formal Russian protectorate over the Donbass, like that of France over Tunisia and Morocco at one time, would freeze the situation for all concerned. Russia thereby would guarantee the DNR and LNR against outside attack,”
-What is your source for this? I have heard similar theories before, the problem with them is that, that is exactly what USA would want. Because that would force Russia to officialy defend Donbass if it was attacked, which would activate all sorts of international rules and allow for increased sanctions on Russia. But if Russia did not guarantee Donbass security, as the situation is now, Russia can still protect Donbass, covertly, but without getting into trouble with international law.
” But the situation would be frozen, without any overt violation of international law ”
-Except when Ukraine attacked Donbass and Russia defend Donbass and thus invaded a sovereign defenceless democracy according to USA.
If Russia did as you said, the situation would be the same as with Georgia, and we all know what Georgia under the control of USA did.
“An open border and free trade between the Donbass and Russia should make it economically viable, effectively a de facto annexation.”
-That does not seem to be working out so far, and would Russia pay pensions in Donbass? Else a lot of people in Donbass would starve.
The problem is that the sliver of Novorossia that is free is too small.Only by freeing at a “minimum” all the occupied Oblasts could the region be viable.And of course freeing all Novorossia would be the middle ground.With freeing all Ukraine the best and maximum solution.Unlike many other,I believe it is possible to free all Ukraine without actual Russian troops.I believe that Ukrainian forces supplied by Russia (and Russian volunteers) could do the job.It would be hard,but with each victory.And each freeing of territory,you would see more and more Ukrainians leaving the “dark side” and joining the liberating army.Until we would see Ukrainians in Kiev overthrow the junta and ask for peace.That is the scenario used a thousand times in situations like this.It worked in those situations and it will work (if tried) in this one.The NAF has now been built,and could function as the core of a liberating army.What is needed is a political leadership to be created.And for Russia to recognize that leadership as the “legal” government of Ukraine.Which they would then be able to openly arm.Certainly NATO would scream to high heaven about it.But then other than also arm the junta forces,that is all they would do.Russia would need to tell them that if NATO doesn’t intervene neither will Russian troops.But that if NATO does attempt an intervention Russian troops will prevent that.No matter what we hear,I don’t believe that NATO would send troops knowing that would mean WW3.As long as Russia didn’t send troops,NATO would be able to say “well,its a battle between Ukrainians”,as an excuse for their public.They would continue and increase the sanctions on Russia certainly.But does anyone really think they are going to remove them.The West has no reason to do that.And I doubt they will.So their is nothing really lost there.While the freeing of Ukraine gives Russia (with Crimea) security on her Western borders from NATO bases.Gives Russia and a pro-Russian government control of the entire North coast of the Black Sea.Defeats the threat of a fascist maidan in Russia being plotted and aided by the junta.Free’s 40 million “Russians” from fascist terror.Allows Ukraine with its resources ,farm land,educated population,minerals, to join the EEU.Rremember Ukraine was during the USSR one of the industrial powerhouses in the country.The plants may be closed down in many cases.But the technical “know how” is still there.Its just not put to any productive use.It was also a breadbasket of the USSR.The farmland is still there to be put to use,to cut the need for food imports from anywhere outside the “Rus lands”.If a total WW3 is avoided,then this war will be fought on a country by country field.And losing a country of geographical importance like Ukraine to the empire is not a good idea.The future benefits of a pro-Russian Ukraine (to me) outweigh anything else.And if we are doomed to a WW3,having a hostile pro-NATO Ukraine is a serious geographical problem.
This report leaves me cold, starting with the steely cold machine man striking a match in the cover picture. A once proud country, although corrupt, is reduced to ashes and pretense. The Empire’s work is done there and has moved on to the next stage of its campaign.
Through infiltrators called refugees Europe is being softened up for the kill similar to the fate of Ukraine. The boa constrictor can already smell Russia.
This site is dedicated to help Russia and so am I.
Russia is preparing for the end game and so am I.
It was Russia’s effete, supercilious, hollowed out high-class traitors that gave the Communists their Trojan horse opportunity in days past. I see no reason why this condition does not still exist.
I think Putin and his comrades in arms know the score. Outnumbered ten to one, they know they cannot over-react and mess up now. In the meantime they dissemble in order to make the enemy mistake their manners for complicity.
I know only what I read here and there. I put the pieces together as best I can. Like the Russian peasants I watch with interest, take my pensions, watch the news, hope for the best and prepare for the worst, while the best of the children work assiduously to save their country.
In desperate times, I turn to literature of previous and similar periods that express what I cannot.
“Good now, sit down, and tell me, he that knows,
Why this same strict and most observant watch
So mightily toils the subject of the land,
And why such daily cast of brazen cannon,
And foreign mart for implements of war;
Why such impress of shipwrights, whose sore task
Does not divide the Sunday from the week;
What may be toward, that this sweaty haste
Doth make the night joint-labourer with the day:
Who is’t that can inform me?”
“And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars:
See that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass,
But the end is not yet.”
I don’t put much stock in prayers but I cannot be persuaded that a virtuous life has no effect on the world’s circumstances. With a pack of vices on my back, I soldier on, not with rifle and boots but with peace and love in my roots.
Someone said Those Syrian snipers being women were a PR stunt.. That might be but even the Iranian army has women although they are only the reserve forces. The women are used due to their shooting abilities and Ofcourse they are protected by men. This is not a sunni trait so you wont find any women in the Pakistani forces but there are a lot of them in the indian army and police force. They worked in the Libyan army as well and they smacked some Saudi secret service agents.. Not sure about Iraq but I know they had women in everything except any fighting units. So women in the army is not just a western trait.. How about all those women in the soviet army?
So this picture is also a fake? 5 years ago I might agree.. But not now.. Syria or Iran are not some GCC country. A lot of women in the US army get raped.. Well guess what, so do a lot of guys! So high profile news about women’s rights are not the entre picture on how a country treats its women. Why do Iranian jews not move to Israel? Israel has been trying to get them to move for decades. And why did most indian jews move to Israel? They were the upper class and had money yet they moved. And the same with jews from many other countries.. They did not move because they were oppressed in many cases. And they sure would not stay if they were oppressed.
The only reason not to use women in some units is because of the logistics problems of needing special needs.. Which means more care about the wellbeing of the soldier.. etc.. Its not usually worth the extra effort.. But that does not mean there are no women in some units where such facilities are available.. We also never see women pilots, ship captains, train drivers etc.. But they also exist.. The west is not so progressive after all..
http://syrianperspective.com/2015/11/saudi-arabian-terrorist-monkeys-bashed-by-syrian-army-safsaafa-liberated-from-saudi-rat-stench-saa-foils-huge-attempt-by-jf-to-reach-sooraan-a-day-of-glory.html
Whenever I see reports on the decline of Ukrainian industry (especially the defense industry) I’m reminded and saddened,thinking of how great that industry was when Ukraine was united with Russia in the USSR.And also that much/most of it is/was located in the Novorossian regions of Ukraine.Think how more prosperous and important Kharkov would be today if traitors hadn’t destroyed the union.And how a year ago,they and the West,destroyed Ukraine herself.
Sigh, agreed.
Well – the WEST did in fact give us (EASTener’s/same here in GDR) what they promised us: Blossoming sceneries/landscapes: https://www.google.de/search?q=blossom+landscapes&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CCMQsARqFQoTCPHXwuP1_sgCFYOJLAod7BIHoA
Ok ok, in fact it looks more like this: https://cbcministry.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fallow-ground.jpg
But come on – industry or jobs or living under a roof was never part of the package. So let’s not complain about the innocent lovely West who risked their lives trying to rescue us well-heartedly and without anyyyyyy interest. It’s alllllllllll the fault of the communists and the Bolsheviks and the Soviet Union and Putin and Lenin and comrade Stalin and what not. Damn, the Ukrainians who tick like that probably need a new pill at this point (give them 5 minutes to relax!).
Ok, everybody back, then let’s continue: Reference: I’m not joking, in 1990 West-Germany did in fact promise us “blossoming sceneries”.
And in fact we got them, only not in the expected manner. In only a few months the entire industry of former East-Germany got closed down and literally destroyed overnight. Now the West had a new market to sell their “goods” (bads?!) and at the same time could get rid of its cheaper but nevertheless often world-class competitors.
Here back to 1990: https://www.google.de/search?q=helmut+kohl+bluehende+landschaften+1990&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIv7qbyPf-yAIVCWQsCh2lYwuP&biw=1280&bih=921
You hardly find products manufactured in the former GDR. Until this day there is no industry in the East: Long term unemployment in Germany in 2011:
https://demographicleipzig.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/arbeitslosenquote_2011.jpg
I told all this those zombies near Kiev, Zhitomir, Ternopol, Iwano-Frankowsk, Lwow since 2008. Nobody believed me. Their only explanation: I’m a KGB agent. Oh well – what a compliment ;)
Found this interesting video from February (save a copy before it disappears) :
Woah! Did Putin’s Threat Of 9/11 False Flag Proof Just WIN Him Ukraine? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTmF6yrDIJw
September 2013 aired on RT: Russia Today Declares 9/11 Was An Inside Job! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ugCIjzHptA
Wow, didn’t know that Russia told the TRUTH already on official channels.
911 Verdict: Well and good. The ‘Judeo-Christian’ Pindos setting themselves ablaze for good measure amounts to poetic justice at its very finest as far as I am concerned. I take exactly the same view by the way regarding the Exceptionals’ quite impressive shooting sprees; most notably in the schoolyards. As long as the Pindos blow each others’ heads off in ever increasing numbers at ever lower ages, I’m kind of pleased.
The actual strictly forbidden truth about 911 is the instant rejoice it evoked in all the “non-exceptional” peoples of the world.
Oh sure, Nussiminen, satanic NWO elites sacrifice 3000 innocent Americans and that gets your rocks off?? And more fools should join your circle jerk to empower more false flag sacrifices of innocents? Or was everyone in the twin towers on its final day “guilty”, in your book?
Query: The leaders of Russia and China “rejoiced” to see that their strategic opponents are that evil and may take this global struggle to species extinction of the human race? ABSURD!
Please get a grip on your hatreds and prejudices before they generate even worse nonsense.
Is there a difference between the “rejoicing” that you approve of re: 911 and jihadis, Brits, neocons or Ukies celebrating the deaths of the Russian tourists in the Sinai? I see no difference.
Such unhinged hatred only SERVES the Empire.
Thank you, @anonymous.
I had the same thoughts.
The only ones that I saw “rejoicing” were – apart from some (fake?) idiot fascist muslim Extremsists – _these_ friends here:
The Five Dancing Israelis – 9/11/2001 – Our Purpose Was To Document The Event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStJ5BgadPs
While I can agree with Nussiminen that many many of our fellow western zombysheeples are guilty due to their stupidity and through their inaction and at least passive support I cannot feel any joy if 3000 arbitrary citizens are being murdered. Especially since thouse who would have deserved it (because of their attitude, job role etc.) did not go to work on that day in the first place …
Those who died were lower class people, not even necessarily US-Americans. It also includes tourists and all sorts of poor service personnell for example.
This deadth spiral of Chaos management will sooner or later expand to Europe and affect my own relatives.
I see little fun in it.
Ofcourse the Israeli’s knew about it. If you were folling it at the time they said they tried to warn about some attacks but were told everything was under control. Maybe some Israeli’s were also involved but I don’t think the Israeli government itself had anything to do with it. The evidence was so overwhelming that they decided to document it and trace all the players and they had quite a large intelligence gathering operation going on. They were all captured and shipped back to Israel.. But Israel did warn all the jews to leave dangerous areas..
I don’t see how someone knowing about an event would make them responsible for it. I am sure the use the info to get something out of it, In that sense Israel is out there to leech money or goods.. But to say a country so weak would do anything to attack their own hope in the world.. I dont know the entire story of liberty but looking at it, I think that was another false flag and someone wanted Israel to attack the ship to use as an excuse for some gain.. But it did not work… Now most countries do use minor false flag events.. But very few use them in such a way as to use it for global domination and imperialistic gains and has become an art form.. Any other country and we can implicate someone else a lot more than what we can do here without knowing anything of the inner working of what happened.. You know just because they mow the lawn every few years don’t mean they steal organs from their friends.. Remember, even criminals have friends.. They don’t attack their friends without orders and an ironclad guarantee that they wont be held responsible.. Especially if that friend you are attacking can smash you like an ant and give you sugar to grow fat every year.
Instead of all this we should be focusing on why cheney told the airforce to stand down…. Why the CIA placed bets on airlines and the like.. Israel does have pull but they are not even in the 5 eyes.. Why aren’t they in it if they were so powerful.. Even new Zealand is in it..
That’s where we differ I think.I believe the Israelis were up to their eyeballs in the 9/11 plot. I have no concrete evidence of that.But their history and circumstantial evidence makes me believe that.The Israeli intelligence services are masters at using groups (and have been since before the State Of Israel came into being) for their purposes.A couple of examples,they used bombs and disinformation throughout the MENA to get Jews to immigrate to Israel.They had long time agents highly placed in Egypt,Syria,and Iraq (probably others I don’t know about) for years,feeding them information.And giving out misinformation to those governments.In the 1980’s they co-opted groups of Islamic fundamentalists in Palestinian territories to form Hamas as a counter to the secular PLO.They hoped to use them to destroy the PLO and break Palestinian unity.That backfired on them as Hamas became their most hated enemy in Palestine.But it worked for them also in breaking Palestinian unity.And turning many Palestinians away from secularism.During the 1950’s the US intelligence services was so concerned about them that there was an unwritten rule that no Jewish-Americans were allowed to work on the ME case desks.They knew that Israel used Jewish-Americans and other Zionists in their operations (they deny it ,but history shows that’s a lie),and didn’t know if they could trust them not to give Israel the information.That changed later,and the Pollard spy case shows that they were right to worry about that.But considering the history of the kind of operations Israel runs.I can easily see them hearing about a group of amateur plotters wanting to attack the US.And them getting involved in the plot helping them out .Anything and everything that can make Americans anti-Arab (Muslim) and pro-Israeli is good for Israel.So the plot of 9/11 was a bonanza for them.They would have needed people in the US government to help as well (I believe).And since an attack served both the US governments interests,as well as Israels.I can believe they worked together.With probably the US taking the lead inside the US.And the Israelis taking the lead outside the US.It wouldn’t have been hard to guide the plot to where they wanted it to go.With co-operation from some US elements.And willing dupes among Arab jihadis.It would be a slam-dunk for an intelligence service with Israels skills to carry off.That attack gave Israel the US on a platter.And gave the US government what they wanted to dominate the MENA and create a “security state” in the US.Without the public even seriously questioning it.
“Is there a difference between the ‘rejoicing’ that you approve of re: 911 and jihadis, Brits, neocons or Ukies celebrating the deaths of the Russian tourists in the Sinai?”
Yes, and at several different levels too.The rejoicing that I approve of — and feel myself — was that of the global 99% expressing their total hatred of Western imperialism, despite the latter’s promotion of the wondrous joys of faggotry and colour revolutions (alongside corporate fascist tyranny 24/7). The fate of the Russian airliner, by contrast, was welcomed first and foremost by butthurt Westerrn supremacists duly accompanied by the, ahem, very cute running dogs of Empire elsewhere. Comparing their reactionary rage and hysteria to the global 99% isn’t even appropriate in the more specific case of the rent-a-jihadi head-choppers suffering Russian airstrikes in Syria. The airliner passengers had zero connection to the Russian Government and Military whereas the 911 attacks targeted the WTO and, yes, the Pentagon (with the attempted strike against the White House failing).
Better believe me: The moral stature of the Ukros, the Pindos, and the ISIS head-choppers wouldn’t improve the slightest even if Russia dropped off the face of the Earth and 911 never happened. If a gargantuan intellectual such as George Bush sanctioned the attacks on his own flag-waving underlings, it would be ironically appropriate.
Ok ok, fully agreed.
Nussiminen, you and I are agreed on many details of the rot of the Empire and its residents. But why use such things as a reason to rejoice a false flag event used to justify the wars of aggression BY the Empire? You can’t make that make sense to me. But lots of feelings make little sense.
You’ve outlined how you feel. I question your judgment of how very much of humanity feels. Very few of the 99% shared your joy on 911. Far more were correctly suspicious of a false flag, and realized that that kind of sick stunt would not be good for any normal human being anywhere.
But apparently you “felt” that it was good for you, because of how it made you “feel” and that trumps what would be good for the rest of humanity, which is to escape this insane Empire driven spiral towards ever greater degrees of mass death. Such feelings as you expressed should be questioned, and not shared, IMHO.
911 — Answers regarding the point in rejoicing and gloating:
1) Doing so breaks the social cohesion of the fascist West outright. The unison, cowardly boohooing of the Western Left about the “monstrous” attacks was precisely the go-ahead which the warmongering 1% was counting on. Another total triumph of imperialist, chauvinist reaction just as in Europe, August 1914.
2) If the Pindo government and Deep State did mastermind the whole thing, then the correct thing to point out is that it was a complete utter waste of precious time, money, and planning efforts. Back in 2001, Westerners in general and Pindos in particular would have zero complaints about all-out imperialist rampage for no apparent reason. Their self-entitlement philosophy doesn’t need any “Pindo martyrs” at home to yearn for wanton destruction, rape, and genocide abroad.
3) What’s absolutely clear is that condemning the attacks today as being atrocious is totally misplaced. You cannot, however much you’d like to, bless Uncle Satan. He works in vile and heinous ways.
Nussiminen, if anyone is “blessing Uncle Satan” it would be he who cheers Uncle Satan’s 911 atrocity then OR now, and instead deems it “good”, like Netanyahoo did. “Good for Israel”.
The “social cohesion” worth breaking up is the stupid gullibility in accepting the absurd official story. Your gloating does nothing to break that up. You seem instead to egg it on.
And again, I find your justifications for gloating simply perverse. Not quite as perverse as 911 itself, because they are not nearly as important or as harmful by 8 or 10 orders or so of magnitude, minimally.
Removed – you have made your point – no need to attack the commenter any further.Mod TR.
Hi South Front, very good video about the defense industry of Kiev…with funny additions..
OT…I found this interesting video of ex-CIA agent giving talks on how to overcome the spy system
https://youtu.be/WLr8ZvgURg0?list=PLl454lB46JcJNYitrG_2cITnzEiZW9KH_
No Ukraine?
Sunday, November 8, 2015 1:57 PM
Russia’s Next Target Libya and Yemen ‘to Protect Russian interests’: Putin
Russia Russia’s Next Target Libya and Yemen ’to protect Russian interests’: Putin Vladimir Putin has issued his strongest warning yet of fresh military interventions in the Middle East, with lawless Libya and war-torn Yemen in the Kremlin’s crosshairs. The Russian president said his priority was to protect citizens living abroad, regardless of where they were.
That could include action to safeguard Russians living in the North African state of Libya, which has been ravaged by violent ISIS terrorists since the fall of dictator Colonel Gaddafi.
Speaking at the fifth World Congress of Compatriots in Moscow, Mr Putin said: “People who are not in Russia due to various reasons should be firmly sure: we will always protect your interests.
“Moreover, in difficult and crisis situations, such as in Libya, Syria or Yemen.”
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1757343
I don’t see his words meaning what some thought they meant.He was talking first,about actual RF citizens.And though to me “Russians” means Russians.Under legal terms the ethnic Russians of Ukraine aren’t “Russians”,and certainly not RF citizens.And yes,Crimea is a different story.Its strategic position and history make it different.I believe Putin meant he would protect RF citizens in other countries.As in “help them get out”,sent a plane or Spetsnaz to help them.Not that he intended to move large forces to intervene in those countries.The Syrian help is another of those “different stories”.Russia has a long history from the USSR being involved with Syria.Its important to Russia (and her allies) because of its location.And as a “symbol” of what is wrong with US color revolutions.And he came to help Syria only after getting the Syrians to formally request that help.So I wouldn’t put any faith in thinking Russia was going to get involved in any other countries (at least not before the Syrian and Ukrainian situations are settled).
Well the Saudi;s were threatening to shoot down a RF plane and with RF in them.. So I am sure what he meant was he wont sit idly by while others threaten RF citizens. A day later the RF plane was allowed to depart.. I hate it that we never hear the reason WHY something like this happen. With the US it would all be front page news with carter foaming at the mouth about US citizens being put in danger would receive a nuke.. We saw quite a few turns here without hearing anything about it. In fact we don’t hear anything about turkey being under Russian sanctions.. Seems Iran is also not helping them get around it. The more erdo raises his throne, the tighter the noose around his neck. Makes me think erdo has not learnt from porkey..
Today in the UK it is ‘Remembrance Sunday’,commemorating the fallen in the I and II world wars,also later conflicts.
In the forefront laying wreaths,will be the selfsame psycopathic types that created both major disasters……..all the power structure will be there.
In the continuing saga of Syria.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34759339
“General Sir Nicholas Houghton, the chief of the defence staff, criticised the UK policy of restricting RAF air strikes to neighbouring Iraq.”
this ‘soldier’ should not even be talking about political matters.
The US ‘coallition’ is illegal and the ‘bwitish’ parliament has already voted against involvement in Syria.
To those outside the UK…..please understand ‘Great Britain’ is not and never has been a democracy.
The recent election: …..74% of the electorate did not vote for this government………on voting day Camoron and crew received 35.9%, the other parties 64.1%………gerrymander…called “first past the post”.
Not many who died in 1914-1918 even had the right to vote,in the II world war, an 18 year old could be conscripted but could not vote.
check Wikipedia:: Universal Suffrage in the UK.