A follow-up to my Open Letter | The Vineyard of the Saker

Dear friends,

First, the words “thank you” don’t even begin to cover the gratitude I feel for the outpouring of support from all of you. You have apparently also drowned out the haters who have suddenly turned very shy :-)

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Kind regards to all and, again, thanks a lot for your kindness and support.

The Saker

KatKan on January 11, 2015 · at 4:55 am EST/EDT

The big cost in LNG is transport, not production cost. It has to be shipped, it’s about an 18 day trip to Europe, they can go a bit faster bit that starts to double the fuel costs for the ship, so its a tradeoff between fuel and crew costs. There is only one export terminal in the US (in Texas) and will take 3 or 4 years to build more. There are from memory about 15 import terminals in Europe, but each country needs its own supply (the pipes are not on a grid).

It takes a fleet of 34 – 36 ships just to have ONE ship arrive at ONE terminal every day. I have no idea how much an LNG ship costs but they don’t come free; you can’t reuse oil tankers, because you need pressure tanks to keep the gas liquified.
So ship export of LNG is not too profitable at ANY oil prices. Current gas prices (from Russia) are half of what LNG would currently cost in Europe, and people are already crying it is too costly.

Gas fracking costs are not level. They have high starting costs, to set up the well. But they have huge volumes for the first 2 or 3 years. At the old normal price this is easily enough to recover the full cost of the equipment and some profit. Then production drops off, but gas keeps dribbling out for years more, at virtually zero cost to produce. So having hundreds of old fracked wells, where the gear is paid for, is good business even at low gas prices. It is also enough to service your loans on another new well, until that starts to produce.

BUT if the price is too low, the new well won’t ever pay for itself, so you’re just throwing money from the (profitable) old wells into the new one for nothing. So with the price down, existing fracked wells will keep producing, but a diminishing amount. Nobody will invest in new wells, because they can’t afford the loans to build them with.

This means the deliberate low prices are not bankrupting existing frackers, but it stops them from starting any new wells. In other words it kills fracking as a future industry. New starts are not needed for profit, but for long-term viability. And of course nobody will build pipelines to carry a diminishing product. Huge deposits like Alaska or Russia’s Siberian ones will produce,cheaply, for decades.

There is a similar cost curve with oil wells. Old deep deposits cost billions to get at, especially offshore ones, but they may flow well for 60 years or more. Fracked ones are cheap to start but run dry under 10 years.

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вот так on January 11, 2015 · at 1:26 am EST/EDT

Some things never change:

Нетаньяху призвал евреев Франции переехать в Израиль Yandex Netanyahu has called on French Jews to move to Israel

“The state of Israel is not just a place where you turn in prayer. The state of Israel is your home… All Jews wishing to immigrate to Israel, will find here a warm welcome. We will help you to adapt in our country, which is also your country,” Netanyahu said, referring to the Jews of France and other European countries, reports RIA “Novosti”.

He promised that in the coming days specialized interdepartmental Committee will meet to develop additional measures in support of immigration from France and other European countries, suffering, according to Netanyahu, “the terrible anti-Semitism”. On Sunday, the Prime Minister will represent Israel at public events…”

What sort of human being would abandon family and friends to go to the pariah capital of the world? Rhetorical question. Israel exists as a manifestation of Judeao-supremacism and is a parasite magnet. The country is based upon the sort of failure of humanity incorporated into white-supremacism, nazism/fascism or any of the other master-slave hierarchical exploitative systems human rejects have devised over the years.
Ashur Bunny Pal on January 11, 2015 · at 1:32 am EST/EDT

If you kick over a hornets’ nest or yell “fire” in a crowded theater, expect negative consequences. That is basically what Saker’s Charlie rant was trying to convey. Not all free speech is protected, actually. Protected free speech is political speech, but what does anyone really gain by mocking the Prophet, really. Cui bono is the question. Saker predicted this outcome, just sayin.’
Penelope on January 11, 2015 · at 1:40 am EST/EDT

“The implications of yet another case of Western-radicalized terrorists, first exported to fight NATO’s proxy war in Syria, then imported and well-known to Western intelligence agencies, being able to carry out a highly organized, well-executed attack, is that the . This mirrors almost verbatim the type of operations NATO intelligence carried out during the Cold War with similar networks of radicalized militants used both as foreign mercenaries and domestic provocateurs. Toward the end of the Cold War, one of these militant groups was literally Al Qaeda – a proxy mercenary front armed, funded, and employed by the West to this very day.

As with any engineered by a government for the purpose of manipulating public perception and pushing through otherwise unjustifiable policy both foreign and domestic, a series of canards are erected to distract the public from the true nature of the attack.”

Article also covers Australian incident
First appeared: http://journal-neo.org/2015/01/08/paris-shooters-just-returned-from-nato-s-proxy-war-in-syria/
NEO, New Eastern Outlook, is the site of the Russian Academy of Sciences in Moscow. Author Tony Cartalucci

For debunking of the video see http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/
There are actually cue lines for where the car & actors should be positioned, one of which is added half way through, indicating a retake. This is a thorough debunking if you go thru the several pages of it.
вот так on January 11, 2015 · at 1:59 am EST/EDT

Американский СПГ – провальный рекламный трюк Yandex American LNG failed publicity stunt

Synopsis: My take on this is that America is still a net importer of natural gas. The economics behind selling American gas abroad depends on the difference between the local [American] selling price and the buying price in Europe and Japan. Right now the gas derived from fracking is priced too low to make local production profitable. New starts (an absolute necessity in this energy “slash and burn” scheme) are well below average and the fracking scam depends on new starts to remain profitable. To make the fracking scam profitable would require a price raise for American gas. Such a price raise would raise the costs of exporting American LNG beyond the profitability margin for such export operations to be rationally feasible. I write rationally feasible because most ZPC/NWO economies have long since abandoned rationality as a basis for their “economics”. It’s all about who BS’s the most now and who owns the BS’ers, basically the Jewish mafia criminal syndicate mentality made a requirement for advancement in all walks of life.
- KatKan on January 11, 2015 · at 4:55 am EST/EDT
  
  The big cost in LNG is transport, not production cost. It has to be shipped, it’s about an 18 day trip to Europe, they can go a bit faster bit that starts to double the fuel costs for the ship, so its a tradeoff between fuel and crew costs. There is only one export terminal in the US (in Texas) and will take 3 or 4 years to build more. There are from memory about 15 import terminals in Europe, but each country needs its own supply (the pipes are not on a grid).
  
  It takes a fleet of 34 – 36 ships just to have ONE ship arrive at ONE terminal every day. I have no idea how much an LNG ship costs but they don’t come free; you can’t reuse oil tankers, because you need pressure tanks to keep the gas liquified.
  So ship export of LNG is not too profitable at ANY oil prices. Current gas prices (from Russia) are half of what LNG would currently cost in Europe, and people are already crying it is too costly.
  
  Gas fracking costs are not level. They have high starting costs, to set up the well. But they have huge volumes for the first 2 or 3 years. At the old normal price this is easily enough to recover the full cost of the equipment and some profit. Then production drops off, but gas keeps dribbling out for years more, at virtually zero cost to produce. So having hundreds of old fracked wells, where the gear is paid for, is good business even at low gas prices. It is also enough to service your loans on another new well, until that starts to produce.
  
  BUT if the price is too low, the new well won’t ever pay for itself, so you’re just throwing money from the (profitable) old wells into the new one for nothing. So with the price down, existing fracked wells will keep producing, but a diminishing amount. Nobody will invest in new wells, because they can’t afford the loans to build them with.
  
  This means the deliberate low prices are not bankrupting existing frackers, but it stops them from starting any new wells. In other words it kills fracking as a future industry. New starts are not needed for profit, but for long-term viability. And of course nobody will build pipelines to carry a diminishing product. Huge deposits like Alaska or Russia’s Siberian ones will produce,cheaply, for decades.
  
  There is a similar cost curve with oil wells. Old deep deposits cost billions to get at, especially offshore ones, but they may flow well for 60 years or more. Fracked ones are cheap to start but run dry under 10 years.
- Penelope on January 11, 2015 · at 7:50 am EST/EDT
  
  Yeah, you’re right, Bot Tak, they’re still importing gas, but less than before fracking. They pushed a bill thru Congress to make the taxpayers pay for their LNG terminal–a cost of THEIR doing business, but of course we have to pay for it. The LNG process robs the gas of about 10% of its energy output, so that’s a consideration for the buyer. US actual import of oil & gas are readily available online. Wm Engdahl says fracking is a bubble, a hoax– that they spent more on oil fracking in 2013 than they got back in product– and that was before the price fall.
TEP on January 11, 2015 · at 2:14 am EST/EDT

I am suspicious when politicians and media are so quickly in Synch (eg MH17), and this report (regarding serious doubts on the official version of the Hebdo incident) from the reliable SCG News is pretty convincing ….

http://stormcloudsgathering.com/charlie-hebdo-shootings-censored-video
Penelope on January 11, 2015 · at 4:12 am EST/EDT

ELSI, You find the best sites. Thanks. I especially liked the cartoon cuestionatelotodo.
- elsi on January 11, 2015 · at 1:38 pm EST/EDT
  
  You welcome, Penelope. These are blogs that I read regularly, although, as with everything, I do not always share the view. This blog, cuestionatelotodo and blogdelviejotopo, for example, I would say they are Marxists. As the two are very, very critical with Podemos, movement of Pablo Iglesias and Juan Carlos Monedero and is about to win elections in Spain, whom they accuse of having divided the left and having dynamited the rise that was taking IU (traditional left). I appreciate and admire Pablo and Juan Carlos, whom I follow still long for their gatherings, previously only available on the web and local televison (neighborhood). I participated briefly in the early Podemos in the area where I live and left there scalded, then, at least in the beginning (now I do not see the same faces) was there a strange hodgepodge, but that coincided almost all defending, curiously!, NATO or demonizing Assad. I had several discussions about it and, encouraged by the downright disrespectful attitude of two or three person, I concluded that this was not really my site. However, Pablo and Juan Carlos are always very critical of this, so I came to the conclusion that, at least in my area, the movement was literally hijacked by the Trotskyist sector. I think (I have not followed the evolution)that has been some debugging (purge?).
  
  Are you Spanish? For some of yours comments, it seems to me that you was.
  - Penelope on January 11, 2015 · at 8:36 pm EST/EDT
    
    No, Elsi, vivo en California pero pase bastante rato en Mejico. Me encanta la cultura. No se nada del Marxismo que a ti te interesa. Lo que me importa a mi es defender el mundo de los criminales de los EEUU.
    
    Here, too, there is no sane political party or candidate. I am concerned that there will be an attack of Syria at the end of February, and I see the exposure of the Charlie incident as a false flag as the means to stop it.
Uncle Bob on January 11, 2015 · at 6:17 am EST/EDT

I’m beginning to wonder now if Israel is seriously involved in this attack.Today Netanyahu publicly called on Jews in France and all Europe to “return home to Israel”.Saying a tide of anti-Semitism was sweeping Europe and they need to take cover in Israel.A few days ago the Israeli Press announced a study that said this year Arabs would outnumber Jews in Israel and occupied Palestine.Europe, except for the US has the biggest non-Israeli Jewish population (in particular France).For Israel to replenish their population to outnumber Arabs there, they need those Jews to immigrate.In the late 1940’s and early 1950’s Zionist agents were caught placing bombs in Jewish quarters in Arab States (Iraq and Egypt in particular).To frighten Jews into fleeing to Israel.It worked and almost all Arab Jews fled to Israel, Building up Israels Jewish population by 100%.Either Israel is just taking advantage of the terrorist attacks on Jews lately.Or considering their past behavior,they may be behind those attacks.
- AlienTech on January 11, 2015 · at 11:01 am EST/EDT
  
  Ever since they voted with the Palestinians I was only thinking it was a matter of time..
  
  That rag so for free speech, they had just sacked and prosecuted one of their staff for satirizing Israel..
  
  Guess that second UN vote is now delayed for at least 5 years. And France got the message, if not I am sure they will be reminded no matter the time.
Anonymous on January 11, 2015 · at 7:58 am EST/EDT

Saker or moderator
Could you delete this message in the new blog

PS: IMPORTANT!! PLEASE POST YOUR COMMENTS ON THE NEW BLOG AND NOT HERE!!! HERE ARE THE LINKS:

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I will spend most of the day tomorrow dealing with the fallout of the current crisis, but if I have the time, God willing, I will also post a substantiative analysis and commentary about the most recent developments of what is now clearly a “French September 11th”.

Kind regards to all and, again, thanks a lot for your kindness and support.

The Saker

PS: IMPORTANT!! PLEASE POST YOUR COMMENTS ON THE NEW BLOG AND NOT HERE!!! HERE ARE THE LINKS:

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- Vineyard Moderator on January 11, 2015 · at 4:59 pm EST/EDT
  
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Anonymous on January 11, 2015 · at 9:15 am EST/EDT

unrelated to this post we have elections in Croatia and recent results reminded me about Stalin’s quotes:

“It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”

and also about “hacking democracy” movie (avaliable on youtube).

well in Croatia there is a joke about man turning up to election and afterward he sat down. someone asks him why he sat. he replies my father is coming. someone tells him to go home and wait for his father, he replies: my father while being dead for 10 years never misses elections so I am waiting here to meet him.

joke aside there is a contradiction between number of voter as per 2011 census and voter turning at elections:

for example in a town of Mali Losinj there are 8116 people (minors included) and 7935 voters:
https://archive.today/GhC4A
https://archive.today/8tfQp

in town of Varazdin there are 46.946 people (minors included) and 39.822 voters:
https://archive.today/1SNeN
https://archive.today/bgKk2

well, to conclude, comrade Stalin was right some 80 years ago… only thing he did not have in mind were pre-election pools so I would like to upgrade his statement: pople believe anything they see on TV and pools are the only way to convince people about “fair” elections…
Dutch on January 11, 2015 · at 12:32 pm EST/EDT

My comments regarding to the upcoming march in Paris today:

https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/01/11/european-ethnomasochism/

Kind regards,
Dutch
Anonymous on January 11, 2015 · at 1:11 pm EST/EDT

Dear The Saker,

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Assange-on-Charlie-Hebdo-A-Conspicuous-Failure-20150110-0016.html

Some interesting points raised by Julian Assange. Glad he shut down that awful Max Hastings.

Rgds,

Veritas
Fedor Slava on January 11, 2015 · at 1:24 pm EST/EDT

Bon sang, mais il se passe quoi avec le Saker Francophone ?
Trop proche du centre de gravité de l’onde émotionnelle pour éviter la “contamination” ?
Rédaction trop “parisienne” ?

Oui, “tristesse”… c’est la première foi que j’ouvre la page du Saker France, et que je ressens… non en fait ce n’est pas de la tristesse ! Ca fait pitié et ça me fou en rogne !

Ce n’est pas une “Une” de “Saker”… c’est une “prise de pouvoir” (on ferme les commentaires en plus bien sûr !)… du “sytème”… sous couvert de “bien pensance” !

Ho !
F* NATO on January 11, 2015 · at 2:07 pm EST/EDT

Below propaganda from a NATO country

Putin’s Russia. Do traces of KGB, FSB and GRU lead to Islamic State?

http://en.delfi.lt/central-eastern-europe/putins-russia-do-traces-of-kgb-fsb-and-gru-lead-to-islamic-state.d?id=66856642#dreload1420926565207
Joseph Johns on January 11, 2015 · at 4:09 pm EST/EDT

Your blog is outstanding. Please keep up the good work. I just wanted to let you know that the “Je Suis Charlie” demonstration in Paris this morning (Sunday, January 11) pre-empted a scheduled program on the BBC: “Russia’s Imperialist Warriors” on Russian volunteers fighting in Ukraine. I hope to catch this piece of slanderous trash when it is shown later.
- UKUSA on January 11, 2015 · at 6:11 pm EST/EDT
  
  When in question Russia is, BBC trolls, spreads propaganda and hatred against Russia.
vérité2015 on January 11, 2015 · at 4:09 pm EST/EDT

Angela Merkel is more and more assuming a role of dominatrix with respect to Russia. After hosting Yatsenyuk, the “let’s-cleanse-the subhumans” prime minister of Ukraine who, on that occasion, vowed to save Germany and Ukraine from a repeat of “Russian aggression” from 1945, Merkel is now openly trying to dictate to Putin and Moscow Russia’s actions (or the lack of actions) in Ukraine. She declared that the four-party meeting in Astana over Ukraine will not happen unless Russia properly behaves and makes some decisive concession (carrying out its “obligations” which Moscow took upon itself under the Minsk Deal). This demand–to deliver on the would-be capitulation in Minsk–has thus become now an explicit and open demand without further ado by this new dominatrix of Europe. That Russia offer the people of Donbass and antifascist fighters on a platter to the Nazi junta and Merkel’s new Germany is now an apparently non-negotiable demand and the EU/West’s negotiating position for tomorrow’s meeting of the foreign ministers of Russia, Ukraine, Germany and France, which will apparently determine if the Astana meeting due on January 15 will be held. Merkel is trying to make it clear that the West and she too is willing to negotiate only Russia’s defeat and surrender.

In this regard, Merkel had no problem inviting and embracing Yatsenyuk, who is actually one of the junta’s key decision-makers responsible for the Odessa massacre, in which over 100 people were burned alive and hacked and beaten to death by Ukrainian Nazi paramilitary battalions with the assistance of the junta’s security.

http://news.yahoo.com/no-ukraine-summit-without-progress-peace-plan-merkel-231757614.html
- Anonymous on January 11, 2015 · at 9:27 pm EST/EDT
  
  intresting that again die linke (leader Sahra Wagenknect’) party is saying
  Deputy Chair of the Die Linke faction of the Bundestag, Wolfgang Gehrcke, made an official announcement criticizing official German policies toward Ukraine.
  
  Gehrcke’s words were cited by SputnikNews.de: “There is not a single reason to call Yatsenyuk an ally of Germany or a guarantor of peace. Pronouncements to that effect by President Gauck and Chancellor Merkel are inappropriate and incorrect.”
  
  In Gehrcke’s words, Yatsenyuk is a warmonger who works in close collaboration with right-wing extremists.
  
  “He wants the West to take a russophobic course and conduct its foreign policy correspondingly. Given his close relations with the United States, we have to ask ourselves this question: is the goal of his visit to worsen US-EU relations? Yatsenyuk is a puppet of Ukrainian oligarchs,” added Gehrcke.
  The Bundestag deputy also posed the question why the president and chancellor did not even attempt to propose an alternative political approach to Yatsenyuk.
  
  “Anyone who wants the Minsk agreement fulfilled must ensure the withdrawal of Ukrainian forces from the east of the country. The fulfillment of this agreement also implies allowing and providing humanitarian aid to Lugansk and Donetsk. Anyone who is emphasizing the importance of Ukraine’s membership in NATO and wants to rearm the Ukrainian army with US help is not thinking of peace but rather of a new East-West confrontation. And this is exactly what neither Germany nor the EU need!” – concluded Gehrcke.
  German politics could get intresting
Five Imperial Eyes on January 11, 2015 · at 4:23 pm EST/EDT

Here is the historical paradox. Winston Churchill made an apt remark calling Poland the «Greedy Hyena of Europe».

http://orientalreview.org/2014/08/28/poland-and-ukraine-history-of-break-downs/
Once Nazi, today Natoist on January 11, 2015 · at 4:45 pm EST/EDT

Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk has amazed the world with his knowledge of history: in his interview with the German TV channel ARD, the politician said that “all of us still clearly remember the Soviet invasion into Ukraine and Germany,” referring to the Second World War.
MOSCOW, January 9 (Sputnik) – Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk has demonstrated his knowledge of history to the world.

On Thursday, while on an official visit to Berlin, the bespectacled young politician was interviewed live by the German TV channel ARD, where he claimed that the USSR had kicked off the Second World War by invading Germany.

“All of us still clearly remember the Soviet invasion of Ukraine and Germany,” he said. “We need to avoid it.”

“Nobody has the right to rewrite the results of the Second World War,” he added. “Russia’s President Putin is trying to do exactly this.”

Anglo-Zionist media are mute, why?
Joat on January 11, 2015 · at 5:37 pm EST/EDT

Having just checked the latest headlines.

The spectacle of a quite ‘spontaneous’ unarranged outpouring of grief and solidarity,world leaders deeply commited to fighting terrorism, unless of course their nation created the terrorists in the first place.

Gordon Duff explains: the stage setting is not in Paris.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/01/gordon-duff-paris-false-flag-attack-not-even-filmed-in-paris-beyond-a-joke-3089502.html.

World leaders linked arm in arm…aren’t they sweet?,don’t you love their integrity??………………………………………
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30765824.

In the words of Steve Goodman, “City of New Orleans”, 1970

Good morning America,how are you?

cheers.
Penelope on January 11, 2015 · at 6:04 pm EST/EDT

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1420632668 Pleaase notice that when the shooters leave the car there is one cueline for the car. When they return to it, a SECOND cueline has appeared at right angles, indicating a retake of part of the filming. Also notice that there are TWO prepositioned cameras, one for car, one for bloodless “kill”.

We have a chance to awaken many people with this material http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/
This info is expolosive that even InformationClearingHouse doesn’t allow my posts containing jimstonefreelance to appear, while allowing everything else I post. If you have the ability, COPY the video.
- Vineyard Moderator on January 11, 2015 · at 6:29 pm EST/EDT
  
  Why are you always referring to that website when you reply to a comment? It’s almost like the comment is made to reference that website. I don’t know it and can’t verify it but it’s almost in all of your comments that I have come across so far. I could make a banner for it and spare you the trouble of mentioning it in almost all of your comments. Would that help? :-)
  - Joat on January 11, 2015 · at 7:16 pm EST/EDT
    
    InformationClearingHouse and the other websites Penelope mentioned are all well known on the blogosphere amongst the hundred or so I cover every week
    
    Who needs a smart arse?
    - Vineyard Moderator on January 11, 2015 · at 7:21 pm EST/EDT
      
      CNN, is well-known also. Is it therefore reliable?
      - Joat on January 11, 2015 · at 7:31 pm EST/EDT
        
        Read the content of the websites over a year period then come back.
        
        cheers.
        
        Vineyard Moderator on January 11, 2015 · at 7:42 pm EST/EDT
        
        I don’t find the time. Too many comments to moderate
        ;-)
        
        Ann on January 12, 2015 · at 5:16 am EST/EDT
        
        Hi Gevorg, Its going to be a thankless job for you sometimes. My support to you and Saker….Stay strong and let if fall off your back, like water off a duck….
- Jonathan Jarvis on January 11, 2015 · at 10:29 pm EST/EDT
  
  re claims “scenes are not in Paris”;
  
  from “kuailapele contributing to veterans today
  “And also understand that we’re all human, and we do make mistakes.]
  
  All right… I received a FB comment from Carola, that the location shown in this video indeed IS in Paris. “62 Boulevard Richard Lenoir”.
  
  I Google mapped the location, and compared it to the video. You may view two of the snips above.
  
  The Google map location looks identical, even down to the:
  
  1. structures present
  2. trees locations
  3. dark square in the sidewalk.
  
  Difference is the larger dark slate structure in foreground has graffiti on it.”
  Again I say-who on this site was there, was a witness, spoke face to face to witnesses…………that is the only way to be 100% sure of what happened.
- KatKan on January 12, 2015 · at 6:37 am EST/EDT
  
  Guys. try to keep off the crazier conspiracy sites, please. For your own good.
  
  They attack everything that happens with “it is just a movie”. Event with 10 or 20 or 40 victims are all fake, according to them. And they back it up with “scientific” evidence as AK-47 ammunition “contains steel rods”.
  
  Whose side are they really on?
  
  * if you can easily see they are talking nonsense, then you will believe the IMAGES ARE TRUE, so it confirms your belief that the atrocity happened. This plays into the hands of the government because it makes you accept whatever they do in response.
  
  * if you believe them that it was just a fake, just a movie, then you have to believe
  the government is trying to fool you, because government is against YOU.
  
  These sites turn everything into conspiracies, but it is all about THEM. They do not see what is happening in the world, because they consider most of it to be “fake movies”. Their only worry is their government is about to attack THEM, and they make a nice profit on selling expensive “survival” gear. Some even offer franchises, a share in the profits for spreading their ideas and sales brochures.
Erika on January 11, 2015 · at 6:06 pm EST/EDT

According to Charlie Hebdo Journalist, one of the attackers had BLUE EYES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3oBd2vxHz0
Anonymous on January 11, 2015 · at 7:04 pm EST/EDT

In November 1970, following the death of General de Gaulle, Charlie published a cover with the headline: “Tragic prom in Colombey [de Gaulle’s city of origin], one dead”, which resulted in it being banned by the Ministry of Interior.
if that’s not enough, read about how Charlie fired Maurice Sinet for alleged anti-semitism.
juliania on January 11, 2015 · at 7:18 pm EST/EDT

Thanks to the moderator for the helpful text emphasis links. I find it easiest to use the paragraph one after I have finished a comment. I can go back and click and paste that into my spacings having done italics and bold as I go along.

Once Nazi, today Natoist said:

MOSCOW, January 10. /TASS/. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov will lead Russia’s delegation to Paris at a major “republican march” due to take place on Sunday in memory of the victims of recent terrorist attacks in the French capital, the Russian Foreign Ministry said on Saturday.
Just double standards.

I would submit that no, this is not double standards but rather an effort to keep the attention on a unified non-war attitude towards unethical, illegal, immoral, violent behavior which civilized communities do not indulge in, whether it be moslem, christian, jewish or none of the above. And perhaps Saker’s emphasis on the stupid behavior of the satirists really hurt French feelings at a time when they were emotionally pouring out in opposition to such behavior. His stance is commendable, but it might help to make an apology to them.

Both Hamas and Hezbollah have emphasized the point that these attacks are more damaging to the Moslem faith than is the publication being attacked. Bravo to them. Something good, as I said before, may come from a re-appraisal of how these violent acts are responded to. We need that.

I will mention here that I was also very upset by the atrocious photograph of the beheading. I am trying to dispel that from my mind. I would hope that those for whom Saker’s message concerning the problems of controversial publications hit an open wound would return and express their feelings in a constructive way. I apologize if anything I said rubbed salt into the wound. We are sorry to lose your input. I’m still not Charlie, but I understand those who felt it important to say they were. In their place I might have as well.
- NotSoFast on January 11, 2015 · at 10:26 pm EST/EDT
  
  ” And perhaps Saker’s emphasis on the stupid behavior of the satirists really hurt French feelings at a time when they were emotionally pouring out in opposition to such behavior. ”
  
  This is my impression too – two neighbouring nations that I believe I understand somewhat are France and Germany (I’ve family in both) and I feel the French are always very sensitive to their freedom of expression and freedom of thought. In addition they are very proud of their literary tradition (and this includes satire) so I think the Saker’s honest but emotional rant in that very special situation broke some china there :-) But everybody has his emotional subjects and posting on the Vineyard is not always easy: as one poster put it recently (quoting from memory): “Posting on this site is somewhat like progressing on a jungle trail with many patches of unexpected traps” – I liked that.
  
  Cheers
- Veritas on January 12, 2015 · at 12:42 am EST/EDT
  
  I have to bring one of your points up. I don’t think Saker has anything to apologise for at all. Not a thing. Maybe he is due the apologies – don’t you think?
  
  Seeing Poroshenko at the front of the “heads of state” walk and visible in many pictures just smacks of so much hypocrisy, it is frankly unacceptable. How about the 4000 plus killed in Donbass – no one is walking in unity for them – are they? Killing innocent people is not right – is it? Are those people terrorists?
  
  Who holds the rights to freedom of speech? – is it acceptable only for some?
  
  They are still bombing Donbass just killed a father, five year old son and blew off the legs and arm of his brother who survived and may not live – his face full of shrapnel. You won’t like the pictures. This is happenig at the same time…..it is the sheer and utter hypocrisy. The man who allowed this to happen in Donbass is marching at the front of unity march! Where was the march for Chechnya last month? The Russian journalists in Ukraine – who were just trying to report the truth not ridicule; dehumanise and insult? I could go on and on and on….If some don’t wish to understand the full point of Saker’s article and use it to attack him or abandon him – then they don’t belong here and maybe never did. You can disagree make your arguement and move on but the way some have behaved leaves a lot of question marks about them.
  
  When London had the 7/7 bombings (another inside job) – where was the march for unity then? They choose what they deem to be right for their agendas and time it to suit.
  
  Veritas
  - Penelope on January 12, 2015 · at 4:33 am EST/EDT
    
    Veritas, you make excellent points, thank you. It’s so discordant to think of Poroshenko marching for freedom of speech while he has deprived so many of the freedom to breathe. This whole spectacle w its demonstration of how easy it is to manipulate people has left me feeling sick.
  - Ann on January 12, 2015 · at 5:21 am EST/EDT
    
    Hi Veritas…I always like your comments. I don’t think Saker has anything to apologize for. That was not a real beheading anyway…I thought it was out of the magazine…Charlie….and if it was a real beheading there would be so much blood, and there was none. It was a photographic trick.
bindeadawhile on January 11, 2015 · at 8:46 pm EST/EDT

I would like to ask the people who don’t believe in any religion, today’s religion is sports, so what do you say to the people having arguments and fights with regards to eg. soccer teams etc?

People will kill for a soccer team, ask any liverfool supporter. (just kidding only used it as an example, there’s many more galatasary etc etc).

So where does that leave the holier than thou atheists? For soccer people will die, why shouldn’t people do the same for their religion?

And if anyone wants to talk terror we can go back centuries to the inquisition. So its pointless to point fingers. jews opened the borders by talking over countries and their laws.

A man brings in rabbits into your house and they out breed you, do you blame the rabbits? They take up all your resources and then you blame the rabbits. But your friendly le happy merchant jew that mesmerized you with his funny money and shiny objects he bought you with, made your daughters and wives whores for all to see naked. And you thank him profusely and kiss his boots.

But the rabbit problem is still there and now you feeling uncomfortable because le happy merchant thought you about equality liberty and fraternity.

Who do you blame? Le rabbit? or Le happy merchant.

Oooh I can hear everyone screaming ‘he wants to lampshade le happy merchant’

The jew is you problem.

As they said on 9/11, ‘the Palestinian is your problem’ to the dumb american goy police.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Rik Negus on January 11, 2015 · at 9:20 pm EST/EDT

Saker

I have always said that when everyone runs to one side of the boat, you will find me on the other side breathing the clean air, so here I am standing in solidarity with you Saker, your words and your community. I am in full agreement with your initial post on the Charlie saga.

I have found myself avoiding reading about it on the myriad of sources on the net because I already know the script, we have been there too many times before. Herd the sheeple together, fill them with fear and then identify the enemy and their attention will be diverted while the fortress is looted. As I watch the 3 millilon on the news “marching for unity” in Paris and elsewhere I feel as if I am on the outside looking in. Am I missing something?

Freedom comes with responsibility, free speech does not give me the right to degrade, devalue or humiliate another person or his belief system, if I was to write and publish those things that Charlie did, in the name of satire and humour, in Canada I would be charged with a hate crime and yet our Prime Minister along with others are shouting out about the attack on free speech. If I am not mistaken if I was to publish something negative or hateful in the same vein towards the Zionist regime of Israel, I can be charged in Canada as being a terrorist.

On the day of the senseless killings in Paris or on any day, how many innocent unnamed lives are lost in the world as a direct result of the actions of the Empire (France included), is it not interesting how some lives are valued much more than others, obviously the French ones were not the usual collateral damage we are so accustomed to.

When we walk to the edge of all the light we have and step off into the darkness of the unknown, we will either find something solid to stand on or we will be taught how to fly.

Saker you are not alone soaring in the deep blue sky of truth, we are with you.

I am Donbas, Syria, Iraq, Libya ………………

Rik Negus
Penelope on January 11, 2015 · at 9:30 pm EST/EDT

They are going for war. Look at the headlines.

France: Terrorist Sleeper Cells Activated over the last 24 hours, say Paris police.

(Britain) SAS Rushes In To Guard Our Streets As El Qaeda Warns You Are Next

(Britain) Al Qaeda Plotting Massacre in Britain — MI5

Germany: Newspaper that Reprinted Cartoons Set On Fire

Germany: Der Spiegel reports Syria Is Building Secret Nuclear Weapons, Aided by Hezbollah, N. Korea & Iran (How convenient)

(US) Terror Sleeper Cells Are In the US– Dianne Feinstein

US has scheduled a global security meeting for itself and allies Feb 18. War on Syria meeting?

Merkel wants to be the new chief of UN. I don’t want to hear again how France & Germany are being forced to go along w US. They are co-conspirators. And they are planning war right now. And RT continues to repeat their Charlie lies and their ISIS lies for them.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/wmd-redux-germanys-der-spiegel-claims-syria-is-attempting-to-build-nuclear-weapons/5424020
juliania on January 11, 2015 · at 11:18 pm EST/EDT

Sorry about that ongoing ‘bold’ – pretty sure I only bolded “stupid” in my post on the previous page – but somehow the minus got left off the post. Again, apologies.
the pug on January 12, 2015 · at 2:01 am EST/EDT

Only 33.2 %of Ukrainians want to continue the war with Donbass, and most of those 33.2% live in the west of the country.
http://zn.ua/UKRAINE/tret-ukraincev-vystupaet-za-prodolzhenie-ato-na-vostoke-162788_.html
Anonymous on January 12, 2015 · at 2:26 am EST/EDT

War is openly on again in East Ukraine, as Uke Army ends ceasefire, attacks.
Anonymous on January 12, 2015 · at 5:48 am EST/EDT

I love the comments on this site because they are a rich source of pithy comments that I often post a tweets.
- UKUSA on January 12, 2015 · at 9:44 am EST/EDT
  
  I love to comment here because there is no Anglo-Zionist-Nato censure ………..
krollchem on January 16, 2015 · at 3:20 am EST/EDT

I am sad to see that the French and Serbian Saker webmasters pulled the plug on their Saker sites due to their lack of understanding about what they see as an “Islamic issue”.

First, Islam is not a monolithic religion, as there are many versions, of which most of them object to the Saudi extreme version as do many Jews who object to Zionism;

Second, I am disappointed with the ignorance of history among the Serbian webmaster as they failed to recognize that the roots of the Balkan wars was due to the “Masters of the Universe” choosing to definlandize Yugoslavia via chaos (See Pepe Escobar) with the various ethnic groups blaming each other and killing each other roughly in proportion to their populations. This plan entailed suddenly calling in bank loans Yugoslavia causing economic collapse and hyperinflation, sanctions and finally military intervention to ensure the plundering of the constituent states;

Third, the French Saker webmaster fails to see the Islamic population as a problem which has been thrust upon the “French” people. Such a viewpoint fails to recognize French colonial history, corporate and thus French society support for cheap labor, and the many North Africans who fought, and in many cases died, in WWII against NAZI style fascism. I will admit that cultural difference makes it extremely hard for Muslim people to fit into French society as my wife’s family in Franch and Belgium will attest to as female relatives had bad experiences in relationships with Muslim men.

Almost all people blame the person rather than the system that caused the problem to occur! System thinking is difficult to master…