Note: Finally the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs found the time, energy and personnel to translate this most important statement. They even posted it (thanks to Jonathan Jarvis for the pointer!). And if you detect irritation on my part you are correct – I am frustrated with how incompetent Russians are in anything relating to public information. Anyway,
I have bolded out what I consider to be the most important statements made by Lavrov that day. I would just like to add the following:
1) Lavrov is considered very much a “moderate” and his language has always been strictly diplomatic. So when you read Lavrov, just imagine what folks in other Russian ministries are thinking.
2) Lavrov makes no secret of his view of the USA and of his plans for the future of our planet. When you read his words, try to imagine what a US Neocon feels and thinks and you will immediately see why the US elites both hate and fear Russia.
3) Finally, Lavrov openly admits that Russia and China have forged an long-term strategic alliance (proving all the nay-sayers who predicted that China would backtstab Russian wrong). This is, I would argue, the single most important strategic development in the past decade.
4) Finally, notice the clear contempt which Lavrov has for a pseudo-Christian “West” which dares not speak in defense of persecuted Christians, denies its own roots, and does not even respect its own traditions.
Friends, what we are witnessing before our eyes is not some petty statement about the Ukraine or sanctions, it is the admission by Lavrov of a fundamental “clash of civilizations”, but not between some wholly imaginary “Christian West” and Islam, but between Christian Russia and the post-Christian West.
Russia did not want this conflict. Russia did everything in her power to prevent it. But the West left Russia no choice and Russia now openly declares her willingness to fight and prevail.
The Saker
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Remarks by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov at the XXII Assembly of the Council on Foreign and Defence Policy, Moscow, 22 November 2014
I’m happy to be at this annual Assembly of the Council on Foreign and Defence Policy (Russian abbreviation SVOP). It is always a great pleasure for me to meet people and feel the intellectual potential, which enables the Council, its leaders and representatives to respond to global developments and analyse them. Their analysis is always free from any hysteria, and its members offer well-grounded and solid arguments, taking a step back, since those caught in the midst of events can hardly adopt an unbiased perspective. We are inevitably influenced by the developments, which makes your observations, analysis, discourse and suggestions even more valuable to us.
As far as I know, this year’s Assembly will focus on prospects for accelerating domestic growth in Russia. There is no doubt that concerted efforts by our society as a whole to bring about comprehensive economic, social and spiritual development are a prerequisite for making Russia’s future sustainable. That said, by virtue of my professional duties, I have to focus on foreign policy issues, which are still relevant for the Assembly’s agenda, since in this interconnected, globalised world, isolating internal development from the outside world is impossible. Russia’s President Vladimir Putin provided a detailed analysis of the international developments at the Valdai Club meeting in Sochi, as well as in his interviews during his trip to Asia. For this reason, I won’t offer any conceptual observations, as everything has already been said. Nevertheless, I would like to share with you some considerations based on our day-to-day foreign policy efforts. It is not my intention to deliver a comprehensive or clear outlook, since at this stage all forecasts are provisional, no matter who makes them. Moreover, diplomats seek to influence developments as they unfold, not contemplate them.
Naturally, I will start with Ukraine. Long before the country was plunged into the crisis, there was a feeling in the air that Russia’s relations with the EU and with the West were about to reach their moment of truth. It was clear that we could no longer continue to put issues in our relations on the back burner and that a choice had to be made between a genuine partnership or, as the saying goes, “breaking pots.” It goes without saying that Russia opted for the former alternative, while unfortunately our Western partners settled for the latter, whether consciously or not. In fact, they went all out in Ukraine and supported extremists, thereby giving up their own principles of democratic regime change. What came out of it was an attempt to play chicken with Russia, to see who blinks first. As bullies say, they wanted to Russia to “chicken out” (I can’t find a better word for it), to force us to swallow the humiliation of Russians and native speakers of Russian in Ukraine.
Honourable Leslie Gelb, whom you know all too well, wrote that Ukraine’s Association Agreement with the EU had nothing to do with inviting Ukraine to join the EU and was aimed in the short term at preventing it from joining the Customs Union. This is what an impartial and unbiased person said. When they deliberately decided to go down the path of escalation in Ukraine, they forgot many things, and had a clear understanding of how such moves would be viewed in Russia. They forgot the advice of, say, Otto von Bismarck, who had said that disparaging the millions-strong great Russian people would be the biggest political mistake.
President Vladimir Putin said the other day that no one in history has yet managed to subjugate Russia to its influence. This is not an assessment, but a statement of fact. Yet such an attempt has been made to quench the thirst for expanding the geopolitical space under Western control, out of a mercantile fear to lose the spoils of what they across the Atlantic had persuaded themselves was the victory in the Cold War.
The plus of today’s situation is that everything has clicked into its place and the calculus behind the West’s actions has been revealed despite its professed readiness to build a security community, a common European home. To quote (singer/song-writer) Bulat Okudzhava, “The past is getting clearer and clearer.” The clarity is becoming more tangible. Today our task is not only to sort out the past (although that must be done), but most importantly, to think about the future.
Talks about Russia’s isolation do not merit serious discussion. I need hardly dwell on this before this audience. Of course, one can damage our economy, and damage is being done, but only by doing harm to those who are taking corresponding measures and, equally important, destroying the system of international economic relations, the principles on which it is based. Formerly, when sanctions were applied (I worked at the Russian mission to the UN at the time) our Western partners, when discussing the DPRK, Iran or other states, said that it was necessary to formulate the restrictions in such a way as to keep within humanitarian limits and not to cause damage to the social sphere and the economy, and to selectively target only the elite. Today everything is the other way around: Western leaders are publicly declaring that the sanctions should destroy the economy and trigger popular protests. So, as regards the conceptual approach to the use of coercive measures the West unequivocally demonstrates that it does not merely seek to change Russian policy (which in itself is illusory), but it seeks to change the regime — and practically nobody denies this.
President Vladimir Putin, speaking with journalists recently, said that today’s Western leaders have a limited planning horizon. Indeed, it is dangerous when decisions on key problems of the development of the world and humankind as a whole are taken on the basis of short electoral cycles: in the United States the cycle is two years and each time one has to think of or do something to win votes. This is the negative side of the democratic process, but we cannot afford to ignore it. We cannot accept the logic when we are told to resign, relax and take it as a given that everyone has to suffer because there are elections in the United States every two years. This is just not right. We will not resign ourselves to this because the stakes are too high in the fight against terror, the threats of the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and many bloody conflicts whose negative impact goes far beyond the framework of the corresponding states and regions. The wish to do something to gain unilateral advantages or to endear oneself to the electorate ahead of another election leads to chaos and confusion in international relations.
We hear the daily repeated mantra that Washington is aware of its own exclusiveness and its duty to bear this burden, to lead the rest of the world. Rudyard Kipling spoke about “the white man’s burden.” I hope that this is not what drives Americans. The world today is not white or black, but multi-coloured and heterogeneous. Leadership in this world can be assured not by persuading oneself of one’ exclusiveness and God-given duty to be responsible for everyone, but only by the ability and craft in forming a consensus. If the US partners committed their power to this goal, this would be priceless, and Russia would be actively helping them.
However, so far, US administrative resources still work only in the NATO framework, and then with substantial reservations, and its writ does not reach beyond the North Atlantic Alliance. One proof of this is the results of US attempts to make the world community follow its line in connection with the anti-Russian sanctions and principles. I have spoken about it more than once and we have ample proof of the fact that American ambassadors and envoys across the world seek meetings at the highest level to argue that the corresponding countries are obliged to punish Russia together with them or else face the consequences. This is done with regard to all countries, including our closest allies (this speaks volumes about the kind of analysts Washington has). An overwhelming majority of the states with which we have a continuing dialogue without any restrictions and isolation, as you see, value Russia’s independent role in the international arena. Not because they like it when somebody challenges the Americans, but because they realise that the world order will not be stable if nobody is allowed to speak his mind (although privately the overwhelming majority do express their opinion, but they do not want to do so publicly for fear of Washington’s reprisals).
Many reasonable analysts understand that there is a widening gap between the global ambitions of the US Administration and the country’s real potential. The world is changing and, as has always happened in history, at some point somebody’s influence and power reach their peak and then somebody begins to develop still faster and more effectively. One should study history and proceed from realities. The seven developing economies headed by BRICS already have a bigger GDP than the Western G7. One should proceed from the facts of life, and not from a misconceived sense of one’s own grandeur.
It has become fashionable to argue that Russia is waging a kind of “hybrid war” in Crimea and in Ukraine. It is an interesting term, but I would apply it above all to the United States and its war strategy – it is truly a hybrid war aimed not so much at defeating the enemy militarily as at changing the regimes in the states that pursue a policy Washington does not like. It is using financial and economic pressure, information attacks, using others on the perimeter of a corresponding state as proxies and of course information and ideological pressure through externally financed non-governmental organisations. Is it not a hybrid process and not what we call war? It would be interesting to discuss the concept of the hybrid war to see who is waging it and is it only about “little green men.”
Apparently the toolkit of our US partners, who have become adept at using it, is much larger.
In attempting to establish their pre-eminence at a time when new economic, financial and political power centres are emerging, the Americans provoke counteraction in keeping with Newton’s third law and contribute to the emergence of structures, mechanisms, and movements that seek alternatives to the American recipes for solving the pressing problems. I am not referring to anti-Americanism, still less about forming coalitions spearheaded against the United States, but only about the natural wish of a growing number of countries to secure their vital interests and do it the way they think right, and not what they are told “from across the pond.” Nobody is going to play anti-US games just to spite the United States. We face attempts and facts of extra-territorial use of US legislation, the kidnapping of our citizens in spite of existing treaties with Washington whereby these issues are to be resolved through law enforcement and judicial bodies.
According to its doctrine of national security, the United States has the right to use force anywhere, anytime without necessarily asking the UN Security Council for approval. A coalition against the Islamic State was formed unbeknownst to the Security Council. I asked Secretary of State John Kerry why have not they gone to the UN Security Council for this.
He told me that if they did, they would have to somehow designate the status of Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad. Of course, they had to because Syria is a sovereign state and still a member of the UN (no one excluded it from UN membership). The secretary of state said it was wrong because the United States is combating terrorism and the al-Assad regime is the most important factor that galvanises terrorists from around the world and acts as a magnet attracting them to this region in an attempt to overthrow the Syrian regime.
I believe this is perverse logic. If we are talking about precedents (the United States adheres to case law), it is worth remembering the chemical disarmament in Syria when the Assad regime was a completely legitimate partner of the United States, Russia, the OPCW and others. The Americans maintain talks with the Taliban as well. Whenever the United States has an opportunity to benefit from something, it acts quite pragmatically. I’m not sure why the ideologically-driven position took the upper hand this time and the United States chose to believe that Assad cannot be a partner. Perhaps, this is not so much an operation against the Islamic State as paving the way for toppling al-Assad under the guise of a counter-terrorist operation.
Francis Fukuyama recently wrote the book, Political Order and Political Decay, in which he argues that the efficiency of public administration in the United States is declining and the traditions of democratic governance are gradually being replaced with feudal fiefdom ruling methods. This is part of the discussion about someone who lives in a glass house and throws stones.
All of this is happening amid the mounting challenges and problems of the modern world. We are seeing a continued “tug of war” in Ukraine. Trouble is brewing on the south border of the EU. I don’t think the Middle Eastern and North African problems will go away all by themselves. The EU has formed a new commission. New foreign actors have emerged, who will face a serious fight for where to send their basic resources: either for the continuation of reckless schemes in Ukraine, Moldova, etc., within the Eastern Partnership (as advocated by an aggressive minority in the EU), or they will listen to the Southern European countries and focus on what’s happening on the other side of the Mediterranean.
This is a major issue for the EU.
So far, those who are not guided by real problems, but rather by a desire to quickly grab things from freshly turned up ground. It is deplorable. Exporting revolutions – be they democratic, communist or others – never brings any good.
State, public and civilisational structures are actually disintegrating in the MENA region. The destructive energy released in the process can scorch states that are located far beyond this region. Terrorists (including the Islamic State) are claiming a national status. Moreover, they are already beginning to create quasi-governmental bodies there that engage in the administrative work.
On this backdrop, minorities, including Christians, are banished. In Europe, these issues are deemed not politically correct. They are ashamed when we invite them to do something about it together at the OSCE. They wonder why would we focus specifically on Christians? How is that special? The OSCE has held a series of events dedicated to keeping memories about the Holocaust and its victims alive. A few years ago, the OSCE started holding events against Islamophobia. We will be offering an analysis of the processes leading to Christianophobia.
On 4-5 December, OSCE ministerial meetings will be held in Basel, where we will present this proposal. The majority of EU member states elude this topic, because they are ashamed to talk about it. Just as they were ashamed to include in what was then the EU constitution drafted by Valery Giscard d’Estaing a phrase that Europe has Christian roots.
If you don’t remember or respect your own roots and traditions, how would you respect the traditions and values of other people? This is straightforward logic. Comparing what’s happening now in the Middle East to a period of religious wars in Europe, Israeli political scientist Avineri said that the current turmoil is unlikely to end with what the West means when it says “democratic reforms.”
The Arab-Israeli conflict is dead in the water. It’s hard to play on several boards at a time. The Americans are trying to accomplish this, but it doesn’t work for them. In 2013, they took nine months to sort out the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I will not go into the reasons, they are known, but they failed at this as well. Now, they asked for more time to try to achieve some progress before the end of 2014, so that the Palestinians wouldn’t go to the UN and sign the Statute of the International Criminal Court, etc. Suddenly, it transpired that negotiations on Iran are underway. The US State Department dumped Palestine to focus on Iran.
US Secretary of State John Kerry and I agreed to talk on this subject some time soon. It’s important to understand that you can’t keep the problem of the Palestinian state deeply frozen forever. Failure to resolve it for nearly 70 years has been a major argument of those who recruit extremists in their ranks, “there’s no justice: it was promised to create two states; the Jewish one was created, but they will never create an Arab state.” Used on a hungry Arab street, these arguments sound quite plausible, and they start calling for a fight for justice using other methods.
Russian President Vladimir Putin said at the Valdai Club meeting in Sochi that we need a new version of interdependence. This was a very topical statement. The leading powers must return to the negotiating table and agree on a new framework that takes into account the basic legitimate interests of all the key parties (I can’t tell you what it should be called, but it should be based on the UN Charter), to agree on reasonable self-imposed restrictions and collective risk management in a system of international relations underpinned by democratic values. Our Western partners promote respect for the rule of law, democracy and minority opinion within countries, while failing to stand up for the same values in international affairs. This leaves Russia as a pioneer in promoting democracy, justice and rule of international law. A new world order can only be polycentric and should reflect the diversity of cultures and civilisations in today’s world.
You are aware of Russia’s commitment to ensuring indivisibility of security in international affairs and holding it in international law. I won’t elaborate on this.
I would like to support the point the SVOP has been making that Russia won’t succeed in becoming a major, successful and confident power of the 21st century without developing its eastern regions. Sergei Karaganov was among the first to conceptualise this idea, and I fully agree. Taking Russia’s relations with the Asia Pacific countries to a new level is an absolute priority. Russia worked along these lines at the Beijing APEC meeting and the G20 forum. We will continue moving in this direction in the new environment created by the upcoming launch of the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU) on 1 January 2015.
We have been treated as “subhumans.” For over a decade, Russia has been trying to establish partnership ties with NATO through CSTO. These efforts were not just about putting NATO and CSTO “in the same league.” As a matter of fact, CSTO is focused on catching drug dealers and illegal migrants around the Afghan border, and the North-Atlantic Treaty Organisation is the backbone of the international security forces, which, among other things, were tasked with fighting the terrorist threat and eliminating its financing schemes, which involve drug trafficking. We tried everything: we pleaded and then demanded real-time contact, so that once NATO detects a caravan transporting drugs and is unable to stop it, it alerts us across the border, so that this caravan could be intercepted by CSTO forces. They simply refused to talk to us. In private conversations, our NATO well-wishers (and I actually mean this in the positive way) told us that the alliance can’t view CSTO as an equal partner for ideological reasons. Until recently, we saw the same condescending and arrogant attitude with respect to the Eurasian economic integration. And that despite the fact that countries intending to join the EAEU have much more in common in terms of their economies, history and culture than many EU members. This union is not about creating barriers with anyone. We always stress how open this union is expected to be. I strongly believe that it will make a significant contribution to building a bridge between Europe and Asia Pacific.
I can’t fail to mention Russia’s comprehensive partnership with China. Important bilateral decisions have been taken, paving the way to an energy alliance between Russia and China. But there’s more to it. We can now even talk about the emerging technology alliance between the two countries. Russia’s tandem with Beijing is a crucial factor for ensuring international stability and at least some balance in international affairs, as well as ensuring the rule of international law. We will make full use of our relations with India and Vietnam, Russia’s strategic partners, as well as the ASEAN countries. We are also open to expanding cooperation with Japan, if our Japanese neighbours can look at their national interests and stop looking back at some overseas powers.
There is no doubt that the European Union is our largest collective partner. No one intends to “shoot himself in the foot” by renouncing cooperation with Europe, although it is now clear that business as usual is no longer an option. This is what our European partners are telling us, but neither do we want to operate the old way. They believed that Russia owed them something, while we want to be on an equal footing. For this reason, things will never be the same again. That said, I’m confident that we will be able to overcome this period, lessons will be learned and a new foundation for our relations will emerge.
The idea of creating a single economic and humanitarian space from Lisbon to Vladivostok can now be heard here and there and is gaining traction. Germany’s Foreign Minister, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, has said publicly (while we have been saying it for a long time) that the EU and the EAEU should engage in dialogue. The statement President Vladimir Putin made in Brussels in January 2014, when he proposed the first step by launching negotiations on a free-trade zone between the EU and the Customs Union with an eye on 2020, is no longer viewed as something exotic. All of this has already become part of diplomacy and real politics. Although this is so far only a matter of discussion, I strongly believe that we will one day achieve what is called “the integration of integrations.” This is one of the key topics we want to promote within the OSCE at the Ministerial Council in Basel. Russia is about to assume BRICS and SCO presidency. The two organisations will hold their summits in Ufa. These are very promising organisations for the new age. They are not blocks (especially BRICS), but groups where members share the same interests, representing countries from all continents that share common approaches regarding the future of the global economy, finance and politics.
Anonymous said…@ 26 November, 2014 13:51
“Every athlete keep respect to oponents who are better than themselfs. Everybody’s goal is to win over better individual or team”
Perhaps the addition of – Most athletes understand that their most dangerous opponents are themselves – will illuminate further.
As to “win” I suggest Mr. Lavrov’s frames of reference would likely be to transcend.
Westcoast said… @ 26 November, 2014 14:37
“Lavrov seems to think history will go on and work itself out. That nuclear confrontation cannot and will not come about. That it is a given that Russia will prevail.”
On which specific data do you base your contentions?
“The question of the hour is there any accomodation left in the Western ruling class mind?”
On what bases including relevance should this be the question of the hour?
@Anonymous 26 November, 2014 03:03
Not a head scratcher Look at their resources, not only GOLD mines. Also most important, level of their foreign reserves.
Actually it still is.
Yes, the BRICS beat the G7 and since your are suspicious, ask the IMF. The IMF World Economic Outlook PPP basis released first week October 2014.
You just proven my statement to be true by stating it is the BRICS + 3 countries. So, again I say that the statement is utter fabrication when someone says that BRICS GDP surpasses G7.
The new G7 = Brazil, Russia, India, China + 3 (Turkey, Indonesia, Mexico) has a combined GDP $37.8 tn compared to $34.5 for the Old G7 – Canada, France, UK, US, Japan, Germany and Italy.
As to this excitement of China’s economy surpassing US in terms of GDP Purchasing Power Parity, what is the big deal? Most likely, those tiny Gulf states with billions of oil, cheap labour, zero tax and tiny population have a greater GDP PPP than China and US combined. Does that mean they are the new super power?
Anyway this measurement means nothing in terms of the average Joe, when the disparity of wealth is so acute.
China has a debt problem, environmental problem and a elitist problem.
@Westcoast 26 November, 2014 14:37
Lavrov seems to think history will go on and work itself out. That nuclear confrontation cannot and will not come about. That it is a given that Russia will prevail.
Nothing is a given that Russia or anyone will prevail anywhere or that sanity will prevail.At any time it could all end.
True.
In my view, as allies, esp. if you belong to some African/Islamic country Russia is not a good and trustworthy partner. Iran must realise this. No S300 to Syria and not even Iran.
@Sam (AntiNWO) 26 November, 2014 16:16
As to this excitement of China’s economy surpassing US in terms of GDP Purchasing Power Parity, what is the big deal? Most likely, those tiny Gulf states with billions of oil, cheap labour, zero tax and tiny population have a greater GDP PPP than China and US combined. Does that mean they are the new super power?
*Take into account cost of living. Not just PPP.
What is strange to me is that in these otherwise brilliant speeches there is always some religious insanity included.
If Russia is the real Christian leader why are they allied with the godless Commie China and the hedonist Brazilians?
Remember the story of how WW1 almost stopped the first Christmas Eve? Then how the war pushers nixed it?
Why should the populations of whole countries have to deal with the trouble created by a very small number of individuals? The average Russian, Ukrainian, American, Brit, whatever nationality, just want to be left alone so they can live, work, raise their families, enjoy their grandchildren, and enjoy life.
Perhaps one solution to war is for its first focus, or its pre-focus, to be entirely on those superrich bankers, spoiled rotten superrich children,and armchair egghead experts?
Let those who would cause wars, be the ones to be killed, first. Then see if anyone else wants to fight. If covet for somebody else’s property or riches is the cause of war, then looking for specific individuals responsible for that covet, and correcting them or dispensing with them, ought to be what happens. Not ruining the lives of untold millions.
At the core it is also continuing battle of Slavic peoples against Khazarian satanic forces.
Excellent speech. Go Russia!
I keep insisting that the United States and Russia seem to be
shifting polarities. Russia is an
increasingly Christian nation, with a robust and growing Church, principled leadership an
entrepreneurial economy and a pro-
life, pro-family policy. You are
becoming what we were.
America, on the other hand, has
been a decreasingly Christian nation for fifty years, with
churches many of our formerly
“mainline” denominations apostatized into Liberalism.
We have unprincipled leadership,
a ruined economy that discourages individual enterprise and a pro-abortion, anti-family policy. We are becoming “Sovietized.”
Lots of us are trying to turn this around, and it looks hopeful. If we can get back to being a Christian nation, Russia and we should be natural allies.
Something to pray for, no?
Fr. James Rosselli+
St. Joseph of Arimathea Orthodox Church
ROCOR (Western Rite)
Yeah, Russia is basically getting scr#wed, and so it sends a career diplomat to sort that out. It may be aesthetically satisfying, but falls short of the challenge.
Not an expert on Russia but I have an opinion on the monetary system…
The dollar is having problems. This recent ‘strength’ is really the problem of deflation which kills any fiat system. The response of the Fed will be one that leads to hyperinflation. Sooner more than later the dollar will fail and the world will use a new system already embodied in the euro. Gold will be the reserve and the currency will function solely as a medium of exchange. The era of saving in currency is at it’s end.
Going forward no country will have the power the US has now, the ‘exorbitant privilege’ d’Estang spoke of will be history. We will be in a world of produce or die. The BRICS will be ahead until the USA can reestablish an industrial base.
I only hope this change will occur in peace as it surely can. The people of the world are willing and able to work and build wealth. If only governments can be controlled. They always seem to put their existence ahead of the good of the populace. Maybe this time, with all eyes open, we can avoid past mistakes.1823
Conflicted between the US Constitution and the Obama ideology, there is no way that the US can formalize a wise, prudent path to pursue on the global stage.
Conflicted between the US Constitution and the Obama ideology, there is no way that the US can formalize a wise, prudent path to pursue on the global stage.
Liberty Gold Mint said…@ 26 November, 2014 18:33
” “Why South Africa?”
Answer: GOLD!
Date: Sun Oct 19 1997 17:26″
Unicausality is always at best a partial explanation, phenomena being much more complex.
Another possible factor predates 1997.
It has been reliably reported that in 1993/4 and beyond South Africa had magical powers to turn black into white for a vigorous a.k.a. commission of 10% subject to amount and currency type.
Present opponents availed themselves of such consideration, and those being so considerate went onto greater things such as the LIBOR “scandal”, or so it is alleged.
Hi!, Patrons Of The Vineyard Of The Saker Et. Al.:
Stupid statement to as many of you that think so, here is my personal observation of OUR unfortunate World Events: When do we stop ignoring the intentional will of God (and I’m not trying to influence or change the views of any agnostics and atheists etc.) to fill all human nervous systems with JOY, Peace and Love through international brotherhood rather than fears, regrets, grief, confusion, chaos, dread, blowbacks, remorse and all or any of the other negative alternatives for which OUR human nervous systems were NEVER scientifically, morally or spiritually designed or designated from the beginning of OUR human creation? In the end of all this drama in human affairs for which all of US are paying the high prices of disconcertion in epic and dramatic form, can we ultimately outwit the intentional will of GOD? I think not! Please join me in praying for OUR human nervous systems to be rescued ASAP. Thank you!
RUSS SMITH, CA.
resmith1942@gmail.com
From the perspective of a 64 (soon to be 65) year old American man and military veteran…..I hardly can find words in response to this worthy article. America has been run by murderers, pathological lying frauds, and profiteers since at least the assassination of President Kennedy. I would include the years going back to World war II, but we are to believe that Roosevelt did not know about massive U.S. corporation assistance to Adolph Hitler, and that he was – despite repeated high-level warnings from around the world – taken completely by surprise by the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Wars based upon packs of lies, Jewish criminal manipulation of our money supply, the sickening erosion and outright rape of our constitutional heritage, and so on. Russia may have its big-boned oligarchs, we have our cowboy hat- and yarmulke- capped snakes. God help us. But then, why would He? Maybe because, when all is considered, he knows and has seen, that should we begin to take a stand against these things, we faced ridicule at the least, and murder if persistent. In either case, the government and their film whores would invest and reap billions through the collusively-produced films which have defiled the world.
Lavrov is wrong when he says the American federal govt has no long-term perspective. The American govt is broken, for the average American – true. But that govt functions quite well for the wealthiest 0.1%, and their corporations, both in the short-term and from a long-term perspective. The govt reacts to their needs immediately and effectively; and if it can’t get all that they want immediately, it gets what it can for now, and comes back for the rest a little later. The American federal govt is NOT broken. It functions like a finely-tuned machine. However, it is responsive to the needs of the 0.l% and some of the big corporations; not the needs of average Americans.
We average Americans have no one to blame but ourselves for this. If we don’t like the situation, we need to get off our asses and vote. The 2014 election cycle saw the lowest voter participation in history (ignoring 1942 when many voters were overseas).
America’s policy reflects the 0.1%’s views on Ukraine: they don’t care. Useful for political fodder but otherwise no obvious profit opportunities.
Lavrov’s comments fail to reflect an understanding that US policy is driven by New World Order agenda to genocide 95% of world population. I hope that he and Putin are both aware of this.
His comments on drug enforcement in Afghanistan are naive in expecting NATO to cooperate with Russian law enforcement since smuggling heroin from there to Europe is very profitable trade for NWO insiders, and necessary for maintaining the structure of onerous debt hanging over Western countries.
Man, are we getting played.
These guys are as much a part of the New World Order as anyone.
1) We do joint military exercises with the Russians in the Arctic every year.
2) Lets talk drug and arms trafficking. They all have total surveillance, so what’s stopping the world governments from stopping this? Money!
3) What about the child sex trade? No comment?
4) Lets talk history – 50,000,000 Russians and 72,000,000 Chinese citizens genocided by their own governments?
5) No comment about the satanic bankers?
6) Putin worth 40 billion? How many starving people have you fed lately? (same with chinese leadership)
7) Lets not mention Astana, Khasackstan or Zionism.
Solution – Rome? London? New York City? Washington D.C.? Tel Aviv? Am I getting close?
Lavrov brings out the philosophic human conflict between east and west: youth and old age. The sun rises in the east and it dies in the west. Mental old age destroys the beauty and creative genius of youth. Putin has a vision of integrating Eurasia and the world. What better way to guarantee peace in Europe than Russia joining NATO, defined as world security organization, while CSO would act as the more local protection against drug smugglers and terrorism. The fact that the US rejected that makes very clear that it cannot accept peace. it would deprive it of world hegemony. Characteristically, China is all for it: it wants peace and trade, well-being for all its people. The silk roads from Asia to Europe and to India and via the sea to the rest of the world: a world at peace with a goal of prosperity for all because that makes the world more interesting. The US, like a selfish lover wants it all for itself: jealousy instead of progress. Jealosy is always destructive, old at heart: the human west. The mere fact that the US tries with every means to prevent the Eurasian integration envisioned by Putin and China – rather than to join it! – makes it clear beyond any doubt who is the belligerent villain. Surely, not Russia.
THis is a nice image, but I still say this is all about the determination by the West that socialism, no matter the form, shall not pass. A cooperative, peaceful world is a fundamental socialist meme, and as with DC’s destruction of the European welfare state, it cannot be allowed to happen
Certainly, tactical ambitions seem to work,but the likes of Cecil … gamersessel.blogspot.de
When it comes to the USA, then we have to realize, that they are on the way to a full blown police state (Paul Craig Roberts, Ron Paul, MIT Scientists admitted it).
The EU has also many democracy deficits.
How can it be, that the Western partners promote democracy, when there is at least not a real democracy on there own soil ?