By Batiushka for the Saker Blog
Make no mistake about it: The tragic war that is currently taking place on Ukrainian battlefields is not between the Russian Federation and the Ukraine, but between the Russian Federation and the US-controlled NATO. The latter, also called ‘the collective West’, promotes an aggressive ideology of organised violence, a politically- economically- and militarily-enforced doctrine euphemistically known as ‘Globalism’. This means hegemony by the Western world, which arrogantly calls itself ‘the international community’, over the whole planet. NATO is losing that war, which uses NATO-trained Ukrainians as its proxy cannon fodder, in three spheres, political, economic and military.
Firstly, politically, the West has finally understood that it cannot execute regime change in Moscow. Its pipedream of replacing the highly popular President Putin with is CIA stooge Navalny is not going to happen. As for the West’s puppet-president in Kiev, he is only a creature of Washington and its oligarchs. A professional actor, he is unable to speak for himself, but is a spokesman for the NATO which he loves.
Secondly, economically, the West faces serious resistance to the 6,000 sanctions it has imposed on Russia and Russians. Those sanctions have backfired. In the West, we can testify to this every time we buy fuel or food. The combination of high inflation (10% +) and even higher energy prices, caused almost solely by these illegal anti-Russian sanctions, are threatening the collapse of Western economies, much more than threatening Russia or China. As a result of this reverse effect of sanctions against Russia, the rouble is at a three-year high, standing at about 64 to the US dollar and rising, though immediately after the sanctions it had briefly gone down to 150 to the dollar.
After strenuously denying that they would do it, already most countries in Europe (at least 17 for now), including Germany and Italy, have agreed to open accounts with Gazprombank, as Russia advised them to do and to pay for oil and gas in roubles. And this number is growing by the week. The problems will be even greater with food shortages, as the world food chain is highly integrated and the agricultural production of Russia and the Ukraine (now controlled by Russia) is at least 40% of the world’s grain production. Just days ago it was announced that Russia expects record grain production this year (130 million tonnes). Russia may yet demand payment in roubles for all this as well.
The sanctions against Russia have divided Europe and are threatening to divide NATO. President Erdogan of Turkey, a NATO member, has announced that he would veto the entry to NATO of Finland and Sweden into NATO. At the same time, Russia has announced that it will cut off Finland’s natural gas supply. Swedish leaders are re-thinking their entry to NATO.
Thirdly, militarily, it is clear that the Ukraine, with huge numbers of desertions and surrenders, has no chance of winning the war against Russia. Most of its military equipment has already been wiped out and newly-delivered and often antiquated Western equipment will make little difference, even if it is not destroyed by Russian missiles as soon as it reaches the Ukraine. The conflict could now be over within weeks, rather than months. The US ‘Defense Secretary’ (= Minister for Offense), Lloyd Austin, has desperately called the Russian Defence Minister Sergey Shoigu to beg for a ceasefire. Would you agree to a ceasefire when in less than three months and with only 10% of your military forces you have already occupied an area greater than England inside the Ukraine, an area that produces 75% of Ukrainian GDP?
The panic of financial disaster in the West has begun to set in. As a result, the French President Macron has told President Zelensky (that is, told Washington) to give up part of Ukraine’s sovereignty and at last start serious negotiations with Russia. Macron is also trying to free French mercenaries from Azovstal in Mariupol, but the problem is much bigger than this, as the whole of Europe is facing economic meltdown. And the Italian Prime Minister, Mario Draghi, has asked President Biden to contact President Putin and ‘give peace a chance’. Note that Mario Draghi is a former president of the European Central Bank and a Goldman Sachs puppet – just as Macron is a Rothschild puppet.
There have always been empires and invasions throughout history. However, they have always been local and not been justified as the only possible global ideology, a ‘New World Order’, to be imposed by violence all over the planet. After the NATO war is over, lost by ‘the collective West’, NATO Centralism, the ideology of a ‘Unipolar World’, controlled from Washington, must end. However, Centralism must also come to an end everywhere else, like that under Soviet-period Moscow (1).
However, Nationalism must also come to an end. Here we should remember that the very word ‘Nazism’ comes from the German words for ‘National Socialism’. (Nationalism entails hatred for others, whereas Patriotism means the ability not only to love your own country, but also love the countries of others, not hate their countries). And the Ukraine has a history of Nazism, stretching back over eighty years. Moreover, today’s leading Kiev soldiery are Nazi nationalists and represent the tribalism so typical of Western Europe, responsible in the twentieth century for two huge wars which it spread worldwide. The Nazi Ukrainian cries of ‘Glory to the Ukraine’ and their slogan of ‘Ukraine above Everything’ are slogans of Nazism.
Let us move to a world that is multipolar and multicentric, which has unity in diversity and diversity in unity. If we do not move towards this, we will probably be lost. For a multipolar, multicivilisational and multicultural world, the world of seven billion human beings already, is the only civilized world, the only true international community.
Note:
1. Here anti-Semites will tell you that the Centralism of Soviet-period Moscow was founded by the Bolsheviks, of whom over 80% were Jews. Firstly, it should be pointed out that they were atheist Jews, internationalists like Bronstein/Trotsky, who supported the ‘Third International’. In other words, they were political Zionists (not religious Zionists, indeed, they were anti-religious). And let us recall that a huge number of Jews were and are anti-Zionists and a huge number of Zionists were and are not at all Jews. This is why the Saker rightly uses the term ‘Anglo-Zionism’ for these unipolar centralisers.
‘This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is perhaps, the end of the beginning’ Winnie Poo Poo Churchill.
The war with NATO is a never-ending war. However, you can subdue it to Al Qaeda proportions, hit and run guerrilla warfare.
This infers way too much, and imbues words with meanings that they do not have.
The word Patriotism may have some meaning in American English, but would seldom be used in British English.
According to your entomology, the SNP (Scottish Nationalist Party) is synonymous with the Scottish Nazi Party? Hmm!
or even better, Sanct Nikla’s Party, indeed the SNP are the current Nazi Party at large, what planet/reality are you on/in???.
we’re to leave the dysfunctional UK, and join EU and NATO as “free” nation?? whit?
Go Russia, I really hope you smash this cabal… but I am not sure I really believe anything anymore… other than impending demise
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During the Cold War there was some distinction between nationalism and patriotism.
The word ”patriotism” is derived from the greek words ”πατρίς”= ”fatherland or, if you wish, motherland” and ”πατριώτης”=”patriot”, meaning ”the love for your country, for your people, for your nation’s freedom and independence”.
Τhe UBER ALLES nationalism was also called ”Chauvinism”, in greek ”σωβινισμός”-”sovinismos” , from the French soldier Nicolas Chauvin.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chauvinism
We used the word ”σωβινισμός”-”sovinismos” in the cases, where there was militarisation, but no nazi ideology.
In the nazi/far right cases we used the word ”εθνι-κι-σμός”- (ethni-ki-smos) -”nationalism’, which is derived from the word ”εθνικός” – (ethnikos) – ”national, of the nation”.
That’s why this word has a very bad meaning and the patriotic/antiglobalist politicians are afraid to speak in this way, in order not to be called as such.
There is also another distinction, the one between ”nationism” and ”nationalism” :
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nationism
In greek the word for ”nationism” is ”εθνισμός” (ethnismos) from the word ”έθνος” (nation), meaning ”the love to exist as a nation/state and not as a part of an empire without national identity”.
But this word, in greek ONLY, has the same meaning with the english words ”nationalism/patriotism”, which is the opposite of globalism.
Because of this by the globalists purposeful confusion, many writers use the expression ”economic/ industrial nationalism”, in order to show that it is the opposite of the Financial Globalisation/Globalism.
It is really very difficult to discern nowadays in Greece the difference of the meanings of these words, because of the worsening of the Education, result of the for decades creeping little by little globalist destruction of the greek language.
But the same is happening all over the western world, isn’t it ?
ps – Please, dear friend, let me change ”entomology” (about έντομα/inscects) to ”etymology”…with a very friendly and wide smile!
Wikipedia: – [nationalism] It has also been used to legitimize racial, ethnic, and religious divisions, suppress or attack minorities, and undermine human rights and democratic traditions.[9] Radical nationalism combined with racial hatred was a key factor in the Holocaust perpetrated by Nazi Germany.[19]
i.e. fake history is used to define concepts
@KappaDeltaPsi.
Many thanks for a concise exposition of strictly accurate Greek etymology for some loosely inaccurate European terms. As an English speaker (though ‘patristically’ if not ‘patriotically’ Greek) I must say that I agree totally with these definitions. And so, I think, would a couple of other readers (above).
The Greeks have a word for it.
Exactly. It’s not what the scientific etymology of the word is, (which should define the use of this word), but WHO first and HOW and WHY used this same word, giving to it and forcing on us an entirely different and odious meaning. It has happened many times before. That’s why very many greek words have more than one meaning. And that’s why the people, who know, added explanative words to ”nationalism”, to circumvent the impasse of the by the globalists confusion.
Yes. That’s the problem. We are being sucked into a maelstrom of lies about lies about lies; we can either make a quantum leap into forgiveness and brotherhood or go down.
Yes i was wondering if we were the insects in that.
In Spanish both words have exactly the meaning that author gives to them:
A patriot is a person who loves his country.
A nationalist is a person who hate other countries and promote the vision that his own country / region is better. In Gerald nationalism is a typical pattern of New or artificial states that need to affirm fheir own superiority to convince the people that being in that country is better
It has happen in old states but it’s much seldom than in new states or regions. It is also typically promoted by foreign powers
You could also say that nationalism is an ideology whereas patriotism is a characteristic of a person.
This is why I see labels and terms as part of the greater language trap, and an unnecessary academic exercise that starts pointless arguments and destruction of friendships.
End of the day, keep it simple. Live one’s life without causing trouble for other people and mind one’s own business.
I agree. The Nazis in any case were anything but socialists, and Hitler wiped out the “left” wing of the party (that is, those who still had some semblance of concern for workers’ rights) in the Night Of The Long Knives. Nor were they nationalists, because Nazi ideology was racialist, not confined to or embracing all members of the nation state.
Nice sentiments, but it must be said : It’s the Economy, Stupid! (to paraphrase numerous leaders).
The accelerating financial disaster started well before the SMO, and Russia knows full well via Glazyev.
The 2008 bail-out was just an entree, the entire financial system came within an inch of imploding.
The 2019 frantic monetary action has made it even worse. Draghi must know this as does Macron – both being from finance.
Any mere sentiment for a multipolar world MUST detail a physical economic development crash program, Transport, energy both hydrocarbon and nuclear, water, grids, health…
China’s BRI is precisely that, and it must be massively expanded.
Of course the Empire of Lies will do everything to prevent it, that is the real war!
China knows it is TARGET #1 precisely because of this economic program. Russia knows this too.
The battlefront is economics, not merely military nor financial.
Put it another way – the two Bears are economists.
And keeping this priority, fascist economics simply cannot compete – it is inevitably Malthusian, Green-Brown, blood-and-soil, looting without progress, without discovery, without new scientific principles. In other words anti-human.
That is the only way to identify and deal with fascists – who always function as bankers boys.
With regard to the author’s final note about Soviet centralism: I believe it would help to understand the original Russian Communist understanding of “democratic centralism.” It was a vision of a working democracy wherein a multiplicity of social elements enacted their democratic self actualization, and each in turn bought their own specific contribution to democracy to the Party. The Communist Party would embrace that vision and include it in their overall work. The result being a democratic integration of a multiplicity of liberated perspectives.
Of course this policy required an overarching vision that was capable of embracing a wide variety of democratic self manifestations amongst the masses. That vision being the responsibility of the further evolution of communist thought. This was the original Leninist vision which inspired Russian centralism under the Bolsheviks. It was a vision of an openly coordinated multi dimensional democracy, that would naturally have a heart and brain at its organizational center. That being the role of the Party. Democratic Centralism was a vision of the balanced creative unity of the whole and its parts. The creative genius of Lenin can be seen here if one wants to look with open eyes.
Of course if one wants to look very closely it will be recognized that Democratic Centralism is, in practice, a deeply feminine understanding of how to actually practice mass democracy. It is a “red” idea.
History shows however that this hopeful vision of Socialist Democratic Centralism was swallowed up by the rigors of having to fight against the White armies and Western invasion. So the civil war hardened the Russian social environment to the point where there was no room for Socialist Russia to have breathing space for such soft and open hearted understandings. The war forced upon Russian socialism by the Anglo -Zionist empire effectively buried the possibility of practicing “democratic centralism.” All they had room for was Stalin’s crash industrialization.
For this reason who amongst our good readers at this point have any knowledge of the theory and practice of democratic centralism? Again I would suggest this is not lost on the Chinese Party.
My essential point being that “democratic centralism”, in practice, could be compared to a relaxed community of women knitting together a great quilt. A quilt designed to politically accomodate the aspirations of the masses in a variety of cultural forms. However such relaxed and open hearted self construction has virtually no room to breathe if socialism has to spend all its energy fighting to defend itself from hostile forces. The War state hardens things too much. Because of 100 years of ongoing capitalist hostility the very idea of Socialist Democratic Centralism appears lost and now it is being searched for, seemingly under new names.
Thanks for that, SL.
Those that criticize socialism are either ignorant or evil.
@Snow Leopard, with great respect, I think dictatorial tendencies are likely to arise internally through original sin even in the absence of external pressures.
“The toad is underneath the stone” — Robert Graves. (The toad is a cold blooded creature, sometimes poisonous).
Which need not prevent us from dreaming of a better world or even working for a better world.
Dr Maroudas: I agree with you completely about dictatorial tendencies arising from within the human subject. You are quite right. And I admire the way you articulate it. However confronting that reality and addressing it in a manner that can be readily assimilated widely calls for a much wider and more comprehensive discussion. I am sure you will agree with that. So one step at a time right?
What has to come is an outlook that can adequately deal with both the political and the spiritual dimensions. An outlook that can integrate both perspectives, without overlooking one for the sake of the other. Would that make sense to you?
It makes sense to me. As I grow older the spiritual dimension looms ever larger in my view of the world. Interesting to read Pepe Escobar this week on “Strategikon”, the military handbook of Orthodox Byzantium. Apparently the ancient Greek word “Strategos” included a higher level of statecraft than the purely military dimension. Pepe calls it “psychological” level. I wonder if a better term might not be “spiritual” level; because I read years ago that Sofokles was also appointed “strategos” in Athens — as well as (or because of?) his deep insights into the heroic, the tragic and the moral struggles of mankind (and womankind, as in Antigone).
Dr Maroudas. I am always gratified to discover that we are understanding each other well. Not having a university education, I can never hope to match your erudition, as much as I enjoy drawing nourishment from it. Your comments about Strategy as high statecraft and pointing to the ancient Greeks reinforces my intuition that the wisdom we are seeking has in fact been understood, and to some extent successfully practiced, in a long ago and forgotten age. But all that is well lost and buried in our “bourgeois era.” I get the feeling that in our current struggles, in a certain sense, we are spiritually “remembering.” Interesting people, such as Rudolph Steiner for one, keep pointing me in this direction.
Interesting to hear your explanation of democratic centralism snow leopard. I think your description is quite accurate. I do have a working knowledge of democratic centralism as a youth activist in western M/L groups and a long history of watching a parent who was a Canadian communist party activist. Ideas around activist goal development
are discussed and shared verbally and matured into group formulated plans. They are refined and brought to regional then central committee meetings and intent is translated by people with the nod from all the way up. Think what you like about marxists, many are deeply motivated by personal belief and a sense of justice. Western cp groups who were not the obvious plants were deeply authentic and effective. Mostly in mass movement work. The democracy is in the idea formation and input over time and delegates chosen for grasp of specifics goals.
So what was the excuse for all of the tyrranical micromanaged command-economy nonsense that brought about massive shortages of everything, perpetually, for 70 years, the overwhelming majority of which was after the English/French/American armies had withdrawn from Russia or been slaughtered?
Stalin – “We need to catch up with the West in 10 years or they will bury us.” A survival emergency if every there was one. Massive distortion of the original enterprise could hardly be avoided.
You also fail to take into account that the post-revolutionary government was 95% Ashkenazi at the top, and they wanted two things — as much wealth as they could strip out as possible(*) and repressing, oppressing, abusing the hell out of, and just plain murdering as many Rus’ as they could get away with.
When you’re actively killing everyone who raises the slightest bit of descent, from day one, no variety of DEMOCRACY was ever the goal, regardless of which adjective is put in front of it.
(*) the difference between “from each according to his ability” and “from each according to his needs” tends to be HUGE — and 100% of that difference all going into the hands of the top government officials.
This isn’t a defense of Communism as in “Russia didn’t have real communism” .. but instead and a simple recounting of the fact of the Russian Revolution as an example of the typical path that EVERY SINGLE COMMUNIST REVOLUTION HAS FOLLOWED.
Communism is the glorious-sounding theory.
Oppression of the general public, extracting as much wealth from them as possible, and maximizing the (work extracted)/(resources consumed) ratio for everyone outside of the party is the actual practice.
Tell that to the Chinese. Do you have a better idea? Capitalism perhaps. You could see Dr Maroudas’s original response. Human original sin.
https://archive.org/details/TheOnlyPlanetOfChoice/page/n186/mode/1up?q=hoova
Wars are often used by the qabal on certain ethnic groups so that they can only function in war time survival mode.
I suggest “The 2019 frantic monetary action . . ” represented the moment when the US banking cartel G-SIBs, globally significant banking institutions, (see: Financial Stability Board, a subsidiary of the Bank for International Settlements for definitions) which are key members of the US Federal Reserve, refused to lend money overnight (“repos”) to their European G-SIBs and presaged the collapse of the EU monetary system.
In 2019 the US Fed frantically rushed in to cover the European G-SIBs overnight liquidity shortfalls and since then has taken advantage of the leverage it now enjoyed to establish renewed control over US domestic interest rates via a new interest rate setting mechanism called SOFR– secured overnight financing rate– and replaced the rate controlled by the EU G-SIBS known as LIBOR– London interbank offered rate. LIBOR had been used in the US as the benchmark for setting lending rates for, e.g., adjustable rate mortgages, which would be set as LIBOR + __x__.
This recapture of interest rate setting power by the US Fed allows it to reestablish its financial hegemony versus the competing cartel in the EU and therefore to raise the US interest rates it controls, which it is now doing. This will attract eurodollars (70% of US dollars are held outside the US as “eurodollars”) into the US from the EU cartel’s control.
The EU financial system is bankrupt. Its leaders are in effect paid employees of the US hegemon.
Very very slow progress in the East. Near Kharkhiv, some retreat. Not enough men to do the job.
The NATO drones are highly effective. Russia still has to learn how to neutralize them electronically. Not yet.
When was the last time the Russian Army went head to head with a peer force? 1945? They are learning a lot, day by day. But they have to solve the drone problem.
The static fronts in the east indicate this will take months, not weeks.
First the little war. Then the big war.
Static lines, retreat, not enough men, NATO drones …
The Ukrainian military is in a state of near total collapse. They are on their third mobilization to replace troops that are being slaughtered / surrendering. Resupply is impossible due to complete RF air superiority – despite FUKUS AWACS monitoring and intel feeding the AFU.
Let it suffice to say that your sources of information are as if not more ignorant than your military analysis. Russia is not trying to make progress in the east, they are eliminating the Ukrainian army in the west in a serious of cauldrons that are being pounded with long range artillery. The loss ratio is somewhere between 10 and 20 to 1 – not in favor of Ukraine. It is basically a turkey shoot.
That is their primary objective at the moment, when it has been completed the next objective will eventually become apparent. Don’t expect it to be announced by anything other than decisive action.
Wait, in your second paragraph, did you mixup west and east in reference to Russia’s current military actions? It seems that they are ponding the east with artillery, not the west.
Doh! Yes. The RF is not trying to advance west.
What are you talking about? Ukrainian military is getting the stuffing ripped out of it. Its drones are being destroyed. Their soldiers are dying in droves, airforce is virtually gone, navy has been gone for months. Altillery is ripping part any defenses they built up.Everything they do ends up failing, and they in fact had not even one successful counteroffensive to date. The ONLY place ukronazi forces re winning is on the internet.
You are engaging in wishful thinking, that’s all. When the ukies totally collapse, what are you going to say then?
Wait for the total shortage of gasoline and diesel that’s about to come in a few days.
No supply, no way to move, that’s really bad for Ukraine,
The Zelensky regime and their puppetmasters, should have better thought twice, before acting so arrogant against russia’s proposals to come together and find a solution.
So the blame for this mess is solely on them!
The Ukies manning their trenches are relatively immobile, and thus MORE vulnerable than the Russians who have freedom to maneuver at both the tactical and operational level.
Russia’s doctrine is built on the assumption that air superiority is not guaranteed.
The NATO doctrine is built on the assumption of total air superiority.
Ukie and Russian drones aren’t delivering ordnance, just playing the same role as the artillery spotters in hydrogen balloons during WW1, but without the risk of life presented by a manned aircraft.
I’m seeing tons of Russkie videos of dead Ukies, indicating that the RF is slowly taking territory from the UFA. In contrast, it’s been weeks since I’ve seen a new video of dead Russkies, which indicates that the UFA is not taking any territory from the RF unless the RF planned on leaving it, and pulled back in good order, leaving no dead or wounded behind.
Little things like this indicate that the RF is winning, slowly but surely, and that they are trading time for preserving strength by minimizing friendly WIA/KIA rates. Compared to a soldier, ammunition is cheap.
“Would you agree to a ceasefire when in less than three months and with only 10% of your military forces you have already occupied an area greater than England inside the Ukraine, an area that produces 75% of Ukrainian GDP?”
Game Over, Clow Zelenzki.
Just awaiting Putin determine payments for food in rubles. Go ahead with this Mr. Putin!
If I were a swede living in the island of Gotland I would right away evacuate the island. First missiles will be installed on that island.
The war has not started yet, while the US and its allies in europe are hoping to bleed Russia in Ukraine, Russia on its side has not even shown its muscles, its only warming up.
Yep, Russia is only doing the pre-exercise muscle warm ups, the stretching before the actual heavy lifting starts.
When they get serious,if US/NATO/UK etc cross the red line, it will be the most awesome display of military destruction in the known history of this planet.
It will make the criminal US “shock and awe” look like a harmless child’s game.
I honestly believe Russia is the punishment from God awaiting the west for their injustice against the rest of the world. its about time.
Surprised that the Usa, as did with Guaidò in Venezuela, have not yet named another Russian president.
Probably someone who fewer than 10 Russians have ever heard of!
Didn’t the U$A name Navalny as another Russian president? He’s been waiting many years for the call from Nudelman, “Cookie time!”
Erdo, using the Swed Finn NATO ascension as leverage to get some PPK members returned. Gotta give credit where credit is due.
Cheers M
President Erdogan of Turkey, a NATO member, has announced that he would veto the entry to NATO of Finland and Sweden into NATO.
Erdogan, shmerdogan. Just offer him a bribe that makes him smile and he will change his opinion in no time.
There is a prophecy that states that ”Constantinopole will be liberated” this can be translated to ”Turkey dismembering from NATO”. Erdogan’s words proves that the prophecy is on its way.
There is another recent prophecy that says Turkey will fall and its pieces will be distributed among those which it has harmed.
For sure, this will include my forebearers – the Greeks, as well as Russia and others.
Many centuries of retribution are to be had. I cannot wait and hope that VVP lives long and is protected by the armor of God to ensure this comes to fruition.
It’s like you telling me that there will be a war between Russia and muslims? I don’t think that’s possible and it should be avoided at the moment there are muslims fighting side by side with christians against the nazis…so any war between russians and muslims will only weaken Russia and your dream will serve the zionists. Your prophecy must have come from Tel Aviv or Washington or London.
I do not think that it has to be a war between the Christians and the muslims.
One could argue that the Kurds, who are muslim, are just as anxious to seek retribution as are the Greeks, the Russians, and others.
I think people, especially in this area of the world and those more (closely) involved, do not see things in a religious frame but rather, right versus wrong which is independent of such dogma.
I do agree with you, however, that the zionists and others seek to turn people against one another in an effort to weaken as many as possible in order to reign over them.
The author presents a very simplistic view of nationalism as an unfettered evil. Any system of belief that makes a god out of the state, and elevates the state above God, family, and church has created an idol. Nationalism in that form is simply a totalitarian state, and is rightly called Fascism. It can come in many ideological flavors including Communism, Monarchy, Socialism, and Democracy. Granted, Communism claimed to be a world system of government, so the USSR discouraged nationalism at the expense of the Russian identity. But China’s Communist Party encouraged nationalism and still does today.
While National Socialism is demonized as the ideology of the Nazis, their expansionist eugenic ideology was not based on nationalism or socialism. It was most closely based on British and American evolutionary theories of the late nineteenth century.
The crime of Ukraine’s extremists is not desiring to have their own country. The roots of their nationalist movement were based on murdering their neighbors, the Poles who lived among them. They have now shifted this ideology toward justification of murdering their Russian neighbors.
Nationalism within limits is healthy. Every tribe on earth has the right to self determination and self rule. The alternative is a system like America or the UK where unlimited immigration is deliberately encouraged to destroy the native culture.
Ukraine’s nationalists define their nationalism as the destruction of Russian and Polish culture within their borders. This is fascist, but it is also quite amazingly close to the apartheid ideology of the nation state called Israel today.
There is the KISS principle, but Albert Einstein said it better – keep it simple, but not too simple.
To avoid the endless word-ism salad, focus on physical economics.
What is fascist economics, and what is humanist economics?
Most today can not answer that.
Looting, fascist economics, is also the Empire’s economics, as with every doomed empire, from Persia, Rome, Khan, British.
Geopolitics – to loot Eurasia, Napoleon’s and British economics, now faces a clear opposition – BRI economcs, win-win. The attempt to force bankrupt Imperial economics is actually forcing the entire world to look hard at their physical economies. And they find there a common purpose.
Not only Poles they murdered trough very brutal way othters Jews, Russians and even Czechs and Slovaks. These crazy people are still among UKrops, mainly coming from Galicia and USA plus Canada. UA is and was failed state. Hence, nacism of ukrops type is free food for them given by their master and commanders.
History is being cancelled and Russian are in euroland cancelled absolutely. Young Czechs does not know what means really Slava Ukrainii and other similar rant and all that signs and flags. And that Czechs and Slovaks were murdered by benderas, petliuras and others.
Perhaps this is significant, that in Kijev is Benedera Avenue and Václav Havel Street too, Havel was alkie who enrich newspeak with humanitarian bombing, Serbia, the brat also supported invasion to Iraq.
And I am afraid that ukies propaganda is winning, Russians are really helpless losers in this.
Sometimes I think for whom really works RT.
@David Sant: Interesting you should mention Israel, because every new president of Ukraine after the 2014 “cookie coup has been a Jew, and the new Azov regiment which carries nazi ikons in the Ukrainian army is financed by the same Jewish oligarch who financed the election of the current Jewish president of Ukraine.
“When Ye shall conquer the enemies of Israel and enter into their lands, Ye shall kill every male even the baby in the cradle, but Ye can spare the females and breed slaves from them, but the slaves shall rank as thy cattle.” — Old Testament.
Unconditional surrender at Azovstal and interrogation begins :
https://iz.ru/1335901/2022-05-17/sledovateli-doprosiat-sdavshikhsia-ukrainskikh-voennykh-s-azovstali
Extremists are being filtered out.
What are we fighting for? I doubt that it is only for the country exclusively; for democracy? Is there really a separation of powers in the West and the USA? We are fighting the greatest spiritual battle in all of history against the West, morally corroded by the worst of the worst, with the help of overjoyed atheists. They’re after our souls, not our countries.
“They’re after our souls, not our countries.”
Wish you weren’t correct here, but fear you are 100% accurate. This is way bigger than even another world war, which could possibly destroy the planet and/or this version of humanity. Orwell understood this, “If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.” Sure hope he was wrong.
Suspect the root of all this is the same spiritual battle that has been raging behind the scenes since the beginning of time. Once and awhile throughout history openly showing itself. The fact that it’s so out in the open now leads me to believe the final battle is being fought right in front of our eyes.
May you live in interesting times…
Well we sure as hell are, like it or not. ALL of us are.
“Here anti-Semites will tell you that the Centralism of Soviet-period Moscow was founded by the Bolsheviks, of whom over 80% were Jews. Firstly, it should be pointed out that they were atheist Jews, internationalists like Bronstein/Trotsky, who supported the ‘Third International’. In other words, they were political Zionists (not religious Zionists, indeed, they were anti-religious). And let us recall that a huge number of Jews were and are anti-Zionists and a huge number of Zionists were and are not at all Jews. This is why the Saker rightly uses the term ‘Anglo-Zionism’ for these unipolar centralisers.”
can you imagine a world, where a notorious segment of your population, that hardly constitutes a single percentage of the whole does not end up with 80% of the seats of power in the executive in your government?
USSR? Ukraine? USA?….well…not so much…😉
So…how about when the war is over?
The author also notes that “anti-Semites” among us will point to that undeniable fact… If I remember correctly Putin himself remark of that same fact in from to a hall full of Talmudists a couple of years ago.
How many Jews are there?
1. There were 500,000 biblical Jews
2. There were 5 mill Khazars
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There are 10 times more Jews in the world than what we are told? Think about the Nazi party as dominated by Jews (Hitler/Eichmann/Goebbels worked for the Jewish cause). Think about Knights Templar
as Jewish, killing the biblicals Jews in Jerusalem. When the Crusaders moved through Europa robbing and killing Jews was routine.
As George Bernard Shaw once observed, “Neither true nor interesting”!
Not even hard core right wingers accept they have been fooled about who are Jews. They follow Mein Kampf about who are Jews. Every day the myths about “there are 12/13 mill Jews” are repeated 1000 times
If the Knights Templar were Jewish, that would definitely explain a whole bunch of things very simply. Such as their appearance in Ethiopia and apparently, at one time, actually carrying the Ark of the Covenant at least once while they were there.
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‘Swedish leaders are re-thinking their entry to NATO’… Where it come from? Can anyone give me a source?
“(Nationalism entails hatred for others, whereas Patriotism means the ability not only to love your own country, but also love the countries of others, not hate their countries).”
OK, I am calling nonsense on this. Patriotism is an emotion that can defy logic. You can justify anything by saying “It was the patriotic thing to do” and nodding your head. It was patriotic because logic could not be utilized to explain your actions.
In the second gulf war they said if you don’t support the war, you don’t support our troops and if you don’t support our troops then you are not patriotic. Patriotism was used to bend your mind.
If he were still with us I believe that Ambrose Bierce might contribute to this discussion with his own helpful definition:
Patriotism: (n) The philosophy professed by a scoundrel wrapped in a flag.
Dr Johnson said that patriotism was the last refuge of a scoundrel. Similar sentiment to Abrose Bierce.
Actually, he truth is that patriotism is the FIRST refuge of the scoundrel.
Trotsky did not “support the third international” (1928) .,Rather infamously Trotsky had by then gone down he path of a fugitive and eventual agent in collaboration with Nazi Germany and the anti-Soviet efforts of Anglo-American anti-Soviet intelligence operations. This was the whole point of convening his anti-Russian, anti Stalin “fourth international” ……in the year 1938, The implication of it being held just before the Nazi onslaught was obvious
I agree with most of that ! But I am not religious !
So a world that is multipolar and multicentric, which has unity in diversity and diversity in unity. Will I be allowed to be part of that!
“However, Nationalism must also come to an end.”
When ever you read an article in which the author makes moralistic statements & claims that such & such thing ‘must’ this or that – you can be absolutely certain, 100 per cent certain, that the something the author opposes not only will not go away or end or die out, but will remain a permanent feature of human social and political reality. So it is with nationalism.
Nations exist – contrary to the imagined community thesis, nations are real & nationalism is the affirmation of national sentiment. In and of itself nationalism is not a bad thing, or a good thing, it is the manner in which the affirmation manifests that gives character to whether it is positive or negative, or a combination. Many nationalisms are totally false because they are not based on truly formed historic national identity, such as Ukrainian, & it is these supposed nationalisms that manifest in an extremely negative manner. Russian nationalism is for example based in an authentic historical legacy that is positive in its manifestation. Nazism basically gave opponents of nationalism a weapon to brandish against all nationalisms, as if say German National Socialism has anything to do or in common with Armenian nationalism, or Serbian nationalism. Also, German Nazism in many respects exposed itself to be not so much about the German nation as a social, political, cultural entity but about an “Aryan racial” identity that incorporated all Nordic Europeans. And the imperialistic strand of German Nazism rooted itself in this Arianism that was very separate from German national identification. It is a long story & I can’t go into it here, suffice to say that nationalism is here to stay, in fact, as the world becomes multi polar, as nations gain genuine self determination, we are going to see a lot more nationalism, not less. But not a fake nationalism of the Banderite variety, the Russian authorities made a mistake by referring to these as “nationalists” because if they were nationalist, they would be aligned with Russia & see themselves as a part of the Russian world.
I fully agree. I think Azov pigs and others have succumbed to the influence of the real Nazis of the USA, who are the descendants of the Khazars = Ashkenazi Jews. In my opinion the term Nazism has 100% to do with them. Example………..https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html Ashkenazi………..break it down to Ashke and Nazi…….These insane people, nota bene very wealthy and enterprising, have taken over half of the world. From the back seat they influence the politics of the USA (e.g. AIPAC) and dream of resurrecting their former homeland – Khazaria. Read the rest, make your own comments, connect the dots………….a picture will emerge by itself. Ukrainian Nazism is just a tool to achieve their goal – to regain their lost homeland….regardless of the victims, regardless of the cost………..Amen
Agree fully. In the same way that nationalism was a progressive force where nations subjugated under monarchical or imperial rule fought for national self-determination, so the same is now true as nations everywhere fight for freedom from globalist and US imperial power.
“Here we should remember that the very word ‘Nazism’ comes from the German words for ‘National Socialism’.”
Ahhh no. The origins of the word Nazi were as a pejorative for an awkward, backward, and clumsy peasant.
“Originally, the term was used in Germany before the rise of NSDAP as a colloquial and derogatory word referring to an awkward, backward, and clumsy peasant. It would go on to be used as a mockery of the name Ignatz—a German variation of Ignatius.”
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/the-origin-of-the-term-nazi.html
Jewish and foreign critics of the regime adopted it as a term of scorn and derision for the German Government.
Are you actually making the claim that Hitler and his followers did not refer to themselves as “Nazis?” That’s comparable to saying that the swastika symbol, which has an ancient Hindu origin, does not represent Naziism.
That is correct, the term originated from their enemies. Its subsequent use is perpetuated by those who wish to denigrate what they represented. The swastika is a different matter and hopefully the Hindus can rehabilitate it in the future.
Read the linked article.
Unfortunately the west including those on this site dont realise how big a world exists beyond their common knowledge.
I would say about 85% of hindus dont know about Nazis or for that matter Nazi use of swastik. 14% other Hindus who are aware of Nazis and also the use of Swastik havent dwelled much on it. Its just one of millions of things one gets to know on their lives like say there are double humped camels in mongolia. Its some curiousity one gets to know and promptly forgets it. The other one percent who know and understand it clearly dont care about it.
Swastik is used in all temples, in millions of homes painted on the door, on cars, trucks on wedding invitations. in company names, hundreds of products from salt, spices to machinery and carry some form of the name as part of the brand name.
So no nothing unusual has happened regarding the usage or understanding of swastik among Hindus.
Its easy to say there exists a world beyond the ” International world order” its quite another thing to understand what exactly it means.
There is enough talk of oil, gas, coal, litium and food. But not so much of material too often forgotten but one of you need to build infrastructure. Namely wood. Russia has world largest potential for forestry and forest industry. And investing to it could destroy with cheaper energy and other costs producers like Canada, Sweden, Finland, Germany, Poland and USA. Biggest saw material (construction) and board (packaging) markets are in Asia. The price are now very high. With exception of most highest quality products Russia could captured markets in China, India and other growing economies..
The only thing missing was the Anthem of the International Communist in the end.
These supposed universal – scientific rational humanist religious ethical and moral – principles preached by Western Civilization apologists it’s always a trick for non-white colonized people and a salvationism/messianism dream for white colonizers disguised as leftists or missionaries.
“The original motivation for this book was derived from a conversation with
Bernardo Sorj on the importance of religiosity in the history of conflicts
and social revolutions. Sorj highlighted how “the revolution faces the
religious thought on its own ground, absorbing part of its
concerns about the foundations of social order, ethics, the meaning of
life and human destiny”, without forgetting “the changes in the
religious thought under the impact of the revolutionary idea. Sorj
thus summarized the interaction between Religion and Revolution:
The revolution reintegrates into its own cognitive structures and
practices central elements of the religious institution and thought,
and religious thought absorbs the revolution in its forms of
acting and theology.” Ignasi Terradas Sabori in Preface of “Religiosity in the French Revolution”
Let me tell you that tomorrow morning in many European countries the price of electricity will hit record highest since last December. 350-450 € per MWh. In May the average price will likely be higher than it was in January. It’s absolutely shocking high and next Winter will be real nightmare.
National Socialism did not cause the world wars…
On the one hand, there was no National Socialism in 1914 and the nationalism that did in fact exist in 1914 Germany was fairly common to the entirety of Europe at the time.
It was Britain that caused both major conflicts and this is increasingly being well documented. But unless one reads the diplomatic histories of these periods one would be hard pressed to understand this.
In 1914, Germany was the last of the major powers to declare war. However, it was Russian mobilization that caused the felling of the diplomatic dominoes, which Britain and France followed in suit.
However, had Britain stayed out of it, there would have been no world conflagration and France was done by the Spring of 1917.
WWII was a completely different story, which can only be found in the Inter-War Period. Despite the writings in Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler primarily only went after that territory, which was stolen from Germany as a result of the Versailles Treaty. In terms of Lebensraum, his only real interest was in a small sliver of Czechoslovakia.
And it was Russia that caused the war in the east, despite the pact that The Third Reich had signed with the Soviet Union. As early as December 1940 there is now evidence that German intelligence was becoming very aware of the plans of the Soviet Union to attack Germany and then move onto Italy.
Adolf Hitler had no desire to go to war with England. But again, Britain simply could not control itself and encouraged France to join it with war against Germany as it stoked the fires in Poland with FDR’s cheer-leading.
After the British sunk the French fleet in the Mediterranean, a lot of France lost their interest to be aligned with the British and was one of the reasons Vichy France grew and was basically left alone by The Reich.
The Soviet Union was no stranger to the lust for conquest and was swallowing up countries in its west. From Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, to Romania and eventually Bulgaria, Stalin was given a free pass by the West.
However, Germany, which had very good reason to attack Poland was demonized and still is to this very day.
The German nation lost their pride and culture as a result and what we see in today’s Germany is a direct result of the West’s hatred of Germany going back to prior to 1914.
You leave out the desire of the French to regain Alsace-Lorraine from the Germans prior to 1914. In fact the British Government under Asquith was originally against going to war. It was Winston Churchill who led the arguments in favour of the war who managed to sway Asquith’s cabinet to commit to fighting Germany. As First Sea Lord he had already moved the Royal Navy’s Grand Fleet to its wartime base in Scapa Flow without cabinet permission. This was interpreted as a declaration of war by the German Government. Going to the rescue of little Belgium was then used as an excuse. Churchill was a warmongering imperialist with ardent Zionist beliefs. He was responsible for the debacle in Gallipoli which widened the war to include the Ottaman Empire which then controlled Palestine. British Empire forces were then used to seize Palestine which went hand in glove with the infamous Balfour Declaration. The rest is history. While Churchill was out of office during 1916, sacked by Asquith for the mess in Gallipoli, he fought briefly on the Western Front in the Battle of the Somme. There he met Asquith’s son, who was a company commander. Asquith’s son later wrote to his mother about their meeting. He claimed that Churchill told him to his face that he loved every minute of the war. This horrified the young Asquith who was busy writing letters to the relatives of the dead men under his command. Read the American politician Pat Buchanan’s book about Churchill and the loss of the British Empire. Had Lord Halifax, the Foreign Secretary under Prime minister Chamberlain, become the Premier in June 1940 instead of Churchill Britain would almost certainly have agreed to a peace treaty with Hitler. Rudolf Hess’s trip to Britain was yet another attempt to achieve that goal. The KIng’s brother, Prince George of Kent, died in the mysterious plane crash in Scotland soon after. Many believe that this event was connected with Hess’s trip.It must always be remembered that Winston Churchill’s mother Jenny was an American banking heiress from New York. This could explain his ardent support for the Zionist cause throughout much of his life. He happily presided over a war which bankrupted Britain and allowed the USA to gain global hegmony at the expense of the loss of the Empire he claimed to love. He displayed what many people might regard as psychopathic tendencies throughout his life. He was also a drunk and a chronic gambler. The Americans regard him as one of their greatest friends and allies to this very day and why not as he gave them everything they wanted.
I am tired of the “Hitler didn’t want a world war” meme. He WROTE about it! On paper. Before the internet existed. It was published. Read Mein Kampf. He just didn’t want to lose.
The Germans deserve everything that’s coming to them.
CIA released a document with picture of Hitler in the 50’ies sometimes
https://www.euronews.com/2017/11/02/cia-investigated-whether-hitler-was-alive-after-world-war-ii
Hitler had all the time in the world to write after WWII, but he could not write. Mein Kampf was written by a Jesuit
Why is this insane distortion of history printed here? Hitler and his fellow Nazis made no secret of their lust for Lebensraum in the Slavic East.
Invade Italy? Across the Alps or by sea or maybe on flying saucers?
Note: being an Atheist does NOT mean anti-religious. It means a complete absence of recognition of a supreme deity. The thought of a higher being does not even enter the minds of an Atheist. These thoughts are only in the minds of the believers of a higher or supreme being.
Also note: being a jew is NOT a religious position, it is an ideology.
– Also note: being a jew is NOT a religious position, it is an ideology.
No, it is not according to dictionaries,
Have you ever read something in a reference book which was erroneous? Especially a reference book that’s several decades old before new evidence emerged,
“Jews = Ancient nation and ethnoreligious group from the Levant”
Simple as that. The meaning contains “A member of the tribe of Judah.” … what is important for claiming ownership of Palestine.
“Jews” are some “ideology” like “communism” does not make sense
That’s true in principle. In practice most self-alleged “atheists” substitute an alternative idol of worship for the old-style deity. By now most of them are cultists of some version of technocratic transhumanism.
“Note that Mario Draghi is a former president of the European Central Bank and a Goldman Sachs puppet – just as Macron is a Rothschild puppet.”
The problem in a nutshell. Today the average European Leader dreams of becoming a Rothschild puppet; the above-average ones even dream of becoming a director in House of Rothschild, the highest rank ever bestowed on a retired EU politician namely, British prime minister T.Bliar.
However, Nationalism must also come to an end.
It is interesting that the number one goal of Adolf Hitler, as explained to Joseph Goebbels and noted in David Irving’s biography of Goebbels, was destruction of the 1648 Peace of Westphalia.
The Peace of Westphalia ended the horrendous Thirty Years War. It was the first internationally accepted legal basis for sovereign nation state existence. Underlying it was the idea that each signatory nation should act in the best interest of the others.
Although now lost or too often forgotten, the kind of nation it promoted was one concerned primarily with the betterment of its own people, and definitely not aggressive toward the others.
Hopefully the author is not against this.
P.S. Hitler was not a ‘nationalist’.
“President Erdogan of Turkey, a NATO member, has announced that he would veto the entry to NATO of Finland and Sweden into NATO.”
This is definitely the right thing to do. Good for everyone.
Erdogan will not block the entry of Finland and Sweden into NATO. He is just making clear that his YES-vote comes at a price. He will communicate that price to Finland and Sweden as well as all the current NATO countries from whom he wishes to get something. Thus unlike the US-puppet governments in Europe, Erdogan is asking at least for something in exchange for going along with this hugely dangerous idiocy.
The war will never be over with NATO because the U.S practices the “Whack a mole” method of world dominance.
Remember the cold war didn’t end until the U.S stood alone.
The only countries that can end this war and American hegemony over Europe is the NATO aligned countries, they can keep NATO but kick the U.S out.
The realities of the world have changed since last 15 years. The dependence of huge populations on US and its allies for food, technology, resources has drastically reduced.
The trajectory is continuing. It is rooted in history , demographics, geography. For a while the collective west got ahead in first trade( ship routes), then resources( gold , silver, huge lands of Americas) , Technology( industrial revolution) . This lead to their dominance on rest of the world.
The petrochemical industry became dominant in modern life, Mass Industrial manufacturing of US peaked the power of the west. computing and bio engineering saved the west when Japan almost to beat US in its own game.
Unfortunately for the west there are no more major advantages left. Others have caught up or near catching up. Now the geography, resources , populations will matter again as ever in history.
No matter what schemes one cooks up or tries to shore up old paradigms, ” Rules based world order” Sanctions etc every action will have less and less effect. The world will grind down to a balance based on sheer power of people with some minor advantages based on technology favouring owners of those. eventually they too will shift.
The original purposes of NATOv
1. Keep the (((Soviet Union government))) from sending the Red Army into Western Europe.
2. Keep the Germans from Invading France for a Roth time in a row
3. Keep the French from pissing off the Germans yet again.
Re: anti-semites comment. The Judeo-Bolsheviks may have been atheist jews, most Ashkenazi jews are, but they were also Talmudic jews of the most dangerous kind who saw non jews as cattle (goyim) who only exist to serve. Today nothing has changed. In fact things are worse. Who owns Big Pharma, the CDC, Blackrock, Vanguard, the banks, the MSM, most of social media, et al. Not forgetting most Western politicians and governments. But while they plan they forget that the best of planners is the creator.
Nationalism is not the problem. The problem is national socialism and international socialism.
I’m wondering if something is lost in translation/usage here? How can an article identifying transnational globalist fascists as a problem turn around and advance a critique of nationalism?
Self-determination and sovereignty are either valuable or they aren’t.
And at any rate, the sanctions (and other actions) of ‘the collective west’ over the past 3 months/3 decades/whatever aren’t backfiring. They are systematically enriching connected insiders while degrading national unity, social cohesion, and historical/cultural memory within Zone A countries precisely to undermine the nation state as the fundamental building block of international relations and civic/civil/human rights.
We just hope that the nations of the RF and PRC ultimately stand in opposition to global authoritarianism rather than in partnership with it.
Much is falsely claim about the founders of ussr atheism
This is simply failing to see the mastador through the red flag
The purpose of these so called atheists was the destruction of the Russian orthodox church.
The founders of bolshevism were members of Satan’s synagogue removing a major opposition to the great deceiver.
And they failed thank God.
J. Krishnamurti, Freedom from the Known, pp.51-52
“When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.”
“The Nazi Ukrainian cries of ‘Glory to the Ukraine’ and their slogan of ‘Ukraine above Everything’ are slogans of Nazism”, As is “America First”!
What will the inbred western oligarchs do now? They’ve destroyed their own economies, drained their weapon inventory, and built a mountain of LIES through their military industrial congressional complex owned media. The euro-poodles have NO sovereignty at all, now proven by their Yankee bootlicking. Expect a MAJOR false flag disaster to be blamed on Russia.
The inflation in EU is around 5% and in USA 7% and part of it not even caused by Ukrainian war. 10%+ is exaggeration. When it comes to energy prices they started go up even as early as in summer of 2021. Prices of many raw materials peaked in Jan-Feb 2022 and then stayed on this new high level.
Shadowstats calculates using the 1980 government methodology that price inflation is 16-17%
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts
Most everything written in this article is true however,
The war party is Washington is pulling the strings in the other NATO countries. The war party is benefiting tremendously from the Ukrainian Civil War. The amount of kickbacks, consulting gigs, and other vigorish flowing to the war party skimmed off the Ukraine Aid is enormous.
Therefore, the question is ; what will stop the war party from escalating ?
Prophet said that those who practice ‘Asabiyah are not of his Ummah (community). He clarified its meaning by saying it’s supporting your own group in an injustice against another.
I suppose discriminatory chauvinism cuts it.
Interestingly, Ummah is derived from Ummi or mother, hence the Muslim community is not a brotherhood but a motherhood. Viva Russia and it’s Saviour Putin!
The word Nationalism seems to be used with different meaning in East and West.
In East, Nationalism seems to be understood as ethno nationalism, whereas in West many understand it as patriotism.
…..and, in that vein……by all means, be patriotic when it’s called for, but admit your past mistakes. Anyone who thinks he is less evil than another……..is a nazi. Be repentant.
Jews themselves have said there is no difference, anti Zionism of any kind including Anglo Zionism is anti semitism, also the law of return o Israel, which is based on the Talmud, and with the oversight of the World Jewish congress, establish that a Jew is that born of a Jewish mother, no matter what religion, or ideology it adheres to.
Great article. And what a terrific series of discussions it has inspired here! The comments alone would be “keepers”, but the combination of the two is awesome.
Advocating patriotism as a substitute for nationalism is like saying ‘Let’s name our ship of pack instinct/tribalism “patriotism”, instead of “nationalism” or “religion”, on her voyage of crushing conscience and reason to the final destination of state/church worship and fascism’.
You may name that ship anything, even “socialism/communism” and by turning it to religion instead of seeing and using it as a justifiable and sensible socioeconomic approach for better life, you end up with a similar hell as well. Yet the surest, shortest, easiest, widely tried and tested and most potent one is patriotism/nationalism or religion, as the formers are means of deification as well while the latter is directly deification itself. They are most potent for deification because they’re directly linked to the most primitive –tribalism/pact instinct– and their potency for deification makes them most dangerous and destructive as well as the most corrupt. That’s why US/NATO has been all along resurrecting, nurturing and supporting them all over the world and they have been traditionally slogans and main narratives of the right.
Many people “feels” patriotism as something intrinsically righteous equating it with longing, working for the betterment of the society/country you live in and ultimately with defending against a foreign aggressor. But any decent and sensible person longs for the betterment of the place s/he lives in and resists aggressors. There’s no need for pseudo-values such as patriotism and nationalism. So why and where they’re needed. They’re needed when your country/tribe/regime (US/NATO/Ukraine) is the aggressor as no half decent person would be willing to participate in such atrocities, but “true patriots” are. They’re needed to replace “the objective values” based on the dictum, “Do not violate others’ rights” with pseudo-values of pack instincts.
Speaking of moderate or alternative patriotism or nationalism is like talking about moderate pregnancy and whenever innocent or semi-innocent people regurgitate them with the cosy and secure feeling of belonging, they serve to poison the cultural climate and help blacken or browning some scoundrels’ shirts.
“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.” – Johnson
“With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first.” – Ambrose Bierce
“When a whole nation is roaring Patriotism at the top of its voice, I am fain to explore the cleanness of its hands and purity of its heart.” – Emerson
Tolstoy’s essays on patriotism should be read as well as the ones on religion.
Well now, to be a patriot, or to be a socialist never excluded each other – till the Pinkertons got the contract.
I also remember Mr Mc Carthy – who was absolutely correct in his assessment.
https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/02/revilo-olivers-what-we-owe-our-parasites-part-1/
Witness the media fanfares resonating with each other.
I know they are doing it – yet – I can not quote ya, since I do not watch them….not seen the shite in like 10!!!s
be good.
eh, ya`ll get by…
Nationalism does not entail the hatred of others, it means to love your own country.
Don’t count on Ergodan. He will horse trade that NATO veto for something.
I am convinced that the so-called “West” is just a big marketing operation. Ever since Gutenberg perfected the printing press (originally invented by the Chinese), the Anglo-Saxons (or should I say, the “Venetians” who settled in the Netherlands and London) have controlled the narrative about what we should know, believe and wait… This paradigm failed.
The only “culprits” of the strengthening of Russia more and more, to the point of becoming invincible, are the forces of the West. It is a long struggle, between what remained of the Western Roman Empire that disappeared in the middle of the first millennium, under the control of the heresy built by the powers of that time and constituted in the “Vatican” (the prostituted, in every sense, Catholic Church Roman) a construct enabled to continue and legitimize the control of world trade, the looting of nations and their people, currently represented by NATO + The Vatican S.A., against Orthodox Christianity, direct heir to the original Christian communities scattered throughout Syria and Asia Minor and that extended to the Ukraine, being its greatest strength today Russia.
That is also why they have viciously attacked the Christians of Syria and the Middle East, through those zombies called “Islamic State”, to destroy the foundations of true Christianity. Not for nothing, the so-called Crusades were intended to attack both the Muslims and the Orthodox Church, or perhaps the Muslims were just the pretext.
Have you noticed that the most furious Russophobes are Slavs but profess Latin or Roman Catholicism? For example: Poles, Western Ukrainians, Croats, etc. …
For centuries they have not given up their intention over and over again: Germanic, Charlemagne, Napoleon, Hitler, Bolsheviks, etc., failing over and over again and strengthening Russia more and more; a people that has the gift and virtue of freedom, resistance, patriotism, and a sense of destiny, like very few.
From what I can discern, the West does not understand that, if it has Russia as a friend, it will have the best friend in the world, but if it becomes an enemy, it will have no chance, other than crying “over spilled milk”…
The thing is, these demons don’t have much room for maneuver anymore (you can tell by the desperation with which they act lately) and, therefore, they are about to make definitive decisions; then it will be when Russia must make them understand once and for all.
I want to give my standpoint about your finishing note.
We have a definition problem with the terms Zionism and Jewish.
What is Zionism ?
What is Jewish?
Zionism is an Ideology , political Ideology. It encapsules Israeli nationalism/patriotism .
If it would limit itself to patriotism , than fine , it would be comparable to russian patriotism , spanish patriotism or patriotism in every other part of this world.
The nationalist part is what creates the “neighbouthood-problems” as it is a tool for power-projection over the limits of israeli national boundaries. This power-projection uses every other means it wants without moral or behavioral limits. Its main argument is retaliation against “the holocaust” .
There we come to the next portion of Zionism.
It links itself to jewishness.
What is a jew?
By definition , someone born by a jewish mother.
By definition , someone who professes the jewish faith.
Both definitions are valid and with few exceptions concur in the same person which calls itself jew.
So we have a racial component and a religious component.
Certain passages of the Babylonian Talmud give the jews a status as “masterrace” over the rest of people in this world.
This circunstance is also used by some zionists for their advantage and power-projection.
What is antisemitism?
In my opinion an artficial term without clear boundaries and limits. The absolute joker in every discussion about human behaviour in general or discussion between a jew and a goy , or a zionist with everyone he finds who contradicts him.
It is silly and hilarious.
Semitism applies to the arabs as well as to jews , they are all semitic tribes.
Under this viewpoint the israeli soldier which shoots at palestinians in a riot is clearly “antisemitic” .
enough for now , please give your opinions.
– What is antisemitism?
As it is today The Unz Review is still promoting antisemitism (Philip Giraldi is notious)
“The Jewish Hasbara in All Its Glory. Lies, Lies Everywhere LARRY ROMANOFF • MAY 15, 2022”
https://www.unz.com/lromanoff/the-jewish-hasbara-in-all-its-glory-lies-lies-everywhere/
– “Jews control, usually by ownership, sometimes by other means, virtually the entire mass and social media of much of the world, certainly in what we define as ‘The West’ but also deeply into the other continents.”
I.e. giving the world the best reasons on earth to condemn Jews. It follow the conviction the Jews run the world. The latter is a silly assumption.
“What is antisemitism?
In my opinion an artficial term without clear boundaries and limits.”
You are right. An ‘artificial term’ used as an accusation is no small thing. If presented as a major problem everywhere, then it’s anti-Gentile in fact.
Also, “antisemitism” should be called anti-Judaism instead, because it is not really anti-Semitism, having no relation to other Semites.
– Also, “antisemitism” should be called anti-Judaism instead, because it is not really anti-Semitism, having no relation to other Semites.
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The Judaists do not support Zionism. Zionism violates the bible as there should be no Israel at current time. The Zionist want us to believe they are “religious” :((
Ben-Gurion’s background, a member of Histadrut.
– Labor Zionism – More important than the 1917 American Federation of Labor (AFL) resolution recognizing “the legitimate claims of the Jewish people for the establishment of a national homeland in Palestine on the basis of self-government”, was the grassroots campaign to finance Histadrut land purchases, infrastructure development and the establishment of farm cooperatives.
Ben-Gurion is a communist = atheist
Beside the content of the article on which one can only agree .. I am a bit tired of reading all these reactionary insults against the Bolshevik past … in fact, if Russia is standing today as a great international power is mostly thanks to the Revolution of 1917
Nazi-Fascism in the Ukraine has deep historical roots, going back to the early distortion of the 1917 Communist Revolution as well as to the Stalinist dictatorship that succeeded it.
The Ukrainian Nestor Makhno was a military genius, organizer of the Black Army (the Makhnovtchina), directly responsible for the defeat of the White Army (made up of imperialist forces) in the Russian civil war.
On November 26, 1920, less than two weeks after the victory over the White Army, high command members of the Black Army and many of their subordinate commanders were arrested at a conference organized by the Red Army, to which they had been invited, and executed shortly thereafter.
Trotsky was the mastermind of this massacre.
More than a decade later, between 1932 and 1933, the forced collectivization of agriculture, promoted by Stalin, results in a great famine (Holodomor) causing the death of millions of Ukrainians.
Now Russia is taking up arms to also settle accounts with this tragic past, in order to definitively eradicate the conditions for the Nazi-fascism plague turn to proliferate again in Ukraine.
And thus the multipolar world will sprout on a solid basis.
Holodomor is another. Ukrainian Nazi myth. CF the work of Mark Tauget
The great famine in Ukraine is a historically proven fact, accepted even by Mark Tauget.
The controversy is limited to whether it was intentionally provoked for the purpose of ethnic cleansing. However, this is also proven not to have been the case.
‘(Nationalism entails hatred for others, whereas Patriotism means the ability not only to love your own country, but also love the countries of others, not hate their countries)’
Equally divided my life between two countries. Feel a love for both. Feel a hatred towards those destroying both.
Have not read anything that postulates the Empire is purposely destroying itself so that a new hegemony can rise up. This SMO is very rapidly destroying the West, have all the think tanks turned to drink?
It is interesting to see this as an extension of the Syrian experience. Slow methodical, without malice, just
beating us at a game, we insisted, they play.
Still for all those producing all the Empire invincible hardware is probably even more profitable than pharmaceuticals. Is it fun for them to see it destroyed, oops gotta make more.
We are all familiar with the Fog of War. What would be a good nickname for whatever it is the MSM produces?
`Nationalism entails hatred for others, whereas Patriotism means the ability not only to love your own country, but also love the countries of others, not hate their countries.`
This is a fair distinction though nationalism in the civil sense is just governing in the interest of the nation & citizens. It used to be known as` pragmatic common sense` in the English speaking world. Now its called xenophobic
«US-controlled NATO. The latter, also called ‘the collective West’, promotes an aggressive ideology of organised violence, a politically- economically- and militarily-enforced doctrine euphemistically known as ‘Globalism’. This means hegemony by the Western world, which arrogantly calls itself ‘the international community’, over the whole planet.»
The USA is selling/imposing a system of hegemony that the upper and upper-middle classes of most countries actually like:
* The USA will guarantee the domestic political and economic power of the local upper and upper-middle classes, at the expense of the lower-middle and lower classes.
* The USA will also allow access to the resources of the USA empire to those upper and upper-middle classes, from holidays in Aspen to tax-free havens like Panama.
* The USA will also bailout via the Fed and IMF and WorldBank those upper and upper-middle classes who loot their countries too much, for a price.
* The USA will also not embargo/boycott (“sanction”) supplies of fuels and cereals to those countries.
As long as those upper-middle and upper classes agree:
* To give up their full sovereignty, accepting USA suzerainty, with USA control or “guidance” of their military, security and diplomatic forces.
* To accept limited sovereignty also in economic policy, especially as to natural resources if any, and finance and real estate in particular.
* To give a cut of their economy to USA-based transnationals.
That is for most upper and upper-middle classes a rather acceptable deal: they don’t care about full sovereignty as much as they care about becoming richer or staying rich, the costs of USA suzerainty are mostly paid by the lower-middle and lower classes, and USA policies are of the neoliberal “Washington Consensus” type that they would adopt voluntarily anyhow.
The problem with the Russian Federation is that it makes much the same offer to the upper and upper-middle classes of smaller countries like Ukraine or Poland or Kazakhstan, but the benefits are much smaller. Holidays in Tomsk or Sochi don’t compare with those in Aspen or Malaga, for example.
Indeed a large part of the upper and upper-middle classes of the Russian Federation itself think that they would be richer as part of the USA suzerain empire than to be fully independent; independence is not an absolute value.
The USSR was different: its ideological message was targeted not at enhancing the luxury of the upper and upper-middle classes but at improving the security of the lower-middle and lower classes, and for a change of ruling class, and this gave it traction beyond its size.
The People’s Republic of China is also different: while their current offer is very similar to that of the USA, its size and resources mean that being a PRC satellite is almost as good a deal as being an USA satellite, and the ruling classes of places like England and Italy and Germany were quite prepared to do a comprehensive deal with the PRC; even if a big advantage of being an USA protectorate is that the USA are big importers, and the PRC is a big exporter (except for natural resources, and indeed the countries that are most keen on becoming PRC satellites are those with natural resources). That’s why the USA are trying hard to surround and isolate the PRC, to close that option.
This is interesting and similar to Michael Hudson’s latest on Multipolarista, ‘Economist Michael Hudson on decline of dollar, sanctions war, imperialism, financial parasitism’ {https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlUSqQ8U8T8&t=4s}. Scott Ritter also has some of the same: the economic and political world is about to undergo an evolutionary saltation. Russia, China, Iran, and others including Brazil and Argentina are looking to break free from Us hegemony through adoption of commodity based currencies. Russian sanctions and oreign exchange thefts have forced every country to rethink Western banks.
Eduardo Galeano: “My great fear is that we are all suffering from amnesia. It’s not a person. It’s a system of power that is always deciding in the name of humanity who deserves to be remembered and who deserves to be forgotten.”
The Ukraine War’s most surprising turn is lack of support for Western sanctions by Asia, Africa, and Latin America. Western foreign policy has long been based on maintaining US credibility surrounding its promises and treaties. These have been revealed as completely worthless.
William Casey (CIA Director 1981-1987): “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
Past US-EU bullshit and attitude wafts past Southern noses. The West made noble fortunes of piracy, slavery, colonial pillaging, indigenous genocides, and brutal racist warfare. The South now realizes the EU-US will demonize their leaders at any time for transparently selfish reasons. They will seize assets necessary for development and proper functioning of Southern economies, as they have done to Cuba, Iran, Libya, Venezuela, and Russia. This article correctly states the US will manipulate trade relationships to weaken loyal countries. Iranian, Venezuelan, and Mexican crude supported the West through both world wars, and they received only poverty, contempt, and death squads in return. US+EU supported a Pakistani coup d’etat. They threatened India with human rights investigations over recent citizenship legislation.
“Aqui os anti-semitas dirão que o centralismo da Moscou do período soviético foi fundado pelos bolcheviques, dos quais mais de 80% eram judeus. Em primeiro lugar, deve-se destacar que eram judeus ateus, internacionalistas como Bronstein/Trotsky, que apoiavam a ‘Terceira Internacional”.
Oi. Qual a influência que o quinta-coluna trotsky teve na fundação do Estado Soviético para afirmar que ele outros instalaram o centralismo Soviético, se ele foi expulso do partido e massacrado intelectualmente por Lenin que, de quebra, acabou com a IIIa. Internacional?
O rapaz ou não têm uma leitura correta da história ou é má fé mesmo!
Meio confuso pro meu gosto..
Excellent, Batiushk your essay is informative and well written. Thanks.
Anti-Semites? Lol
You’re hilarious.
More tropes here than at CNN by the sounds of it.
Enjoy your multipolar police state. Created by and for useful idiots and pro-Kremlin puppets. Ask your friend Putin about the Paedo Compromat, the Russia Apartment Bombings, the Kissinger/Schwab influence, his Fascist QR Vaccine mandates and the Dick Cheney-linked Far West terrorists.