By Peter Koenig for The Saker Blog
HAARP – the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program – was initiated as an ionospheric research program, established in 1993 in Gakona, Alaska and operated by the University of Alaska, Fairbanks. It was and is funded by the U.S. Air Force, the U.S. Navy, the University of Alaska Fairbanks and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). Its alleged purpose “was to analyze the ionosphere and investigate the potential for developing ionospheric enhancement technology for radio communications and surveillance. HAARP is a high-power, high-frequency transmitter used for study of the ionosphere.”
That is the official version. HAARP was supposed to be shut down in May 2014, but then it was decided that the facility would be transferred to the University of Alaska. In reality, this sophisticated research project, owned by the military, and most probably with CIA hands in it, is continuing in some secret location, working on “ionospheric enhancement technologies”, to be used to influence weather patterns – in fact, to weaponize weather.
The first known occasion when the US air force used high power, high frequency transmitters, was to influence the intensity and duration of the monsoon during the Vietnam war in the 1960s. The idea was to render the transition of the Vietcong from North to South Vietnam on their jungle paths more difficult or impossible through extended heavy rains. To what extent this attempt was successful is not known.
However, since then, research has evolved and it is now possible to influence weather patterns throughout the world. In other words, to create droughts, floods, storm, hurricanes – wherever such weather phenomena are convenient for the purposes of empire and its vassals. Talk about man-made climate change. Imagine the amount of money that can be generated by such unsuspicious weather modifications – let alone the amount of human suffering, famine, despair – chaos, economic collapse – eventually entire segments of populations can be wiped out. And all will be attributed to ‘climate change’, which are claimed to be man-made due to our civilization’s excessive CO2 emissions. Man-made – indeed!
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Extensive and prolonged changes in weather patterns can have devastating economic impacts. The Pampas, stretching over some 750,000 km2, is one of South America’s most fertile region, covering Argentina’s norther tier from the Atlantic to the Andes and also all of Uruguay and part of southern Brazil. The area was struck in 2017 / 2018 by one of the harshest droughts in the last 10 years, severely curtailing Argentina’s main staple – wheat, corn, soybean and beef. Argentina is the world’s third largest exporter of soybean and corn.
Argentina was counting on record agricultural yields that would contribute significantly to the expected 3.5% GDP growth in 2018. Instead, 2018 agricultural exports are expected to be reduced by some US$ 3.5 billion. This is expected to result in a cut of GDP growth by at least 1% to 1.5%, not counting agriculture related industries that will suffer losses, many of which may have to close and thereby also increasing unemployment – and human misery.
The neoliberal Mauricio Macri, who came to power in December 2015 as an implant by Washington, has already devastated the country by drastic austerity programs, combined with severe tariff increases for public and social services, i.e. transportation, electricity fuel, water supply, as well as health and education. The country is in shambles with an unemployment rate, officially hovering around 10%, but in reality, it is more like 20% to 25%. The poverty rate increased under Macri’s dictatorship to about 35%, from about 15% in November 2015, before Macri came to power. Strikes and social protests abound. There is not one week without social unrest – which drives the country further into the ground. Like the Yellow Vest in France who want to oust President Macron, Argentinians want to get rid of Macri.
In comes the IMF which has recently published a devastating report about Argentina’s state of the economy. It predicts a grim scenario with rising interest rates on Argentina’s mostly dollar denominated debt, triggering local money production and a predicted inflation of 40% – a continuous loss of purchasing power, hurting especially the poor and average income earners, prompting more social unrest – a vicious downward spiral.
In June 2018, the IMF, invited by Macri to the rescue, followed its usual recipe of more debt and more austerity. The scenario looks pretty similar to what happened in 2010 / 2011 and forward in Greece, just on a much larger scale, at least by a factor of 5 over a 3-year period. In Argentina, the IMF “agreed” to a standby credit of US$ 50 billion – the largest in the IMF’s history – with a tranche of US$ 15 billion to be drawn immediately. However, in September 2018, the peso crashed under the burden of debt and inflation and Argentina faced insolvency. No problem. The IMF came to the rescue with an additional US$ 13.4 billion bringing the total for 2018 to US$ 28.3 billion (Greece’s first ‘bailout’ tranche in 2010 which was €20 billion (US$22.6 billion at today’s exchange rate).
That the IMF repeats Greek “mistake” in Argentina, is, of course, a joke. This is not a mistake. This is calculated greed, administered to the people of Argentina, usurpation at its worst. Argentina is a much larger and richer country. Much more, almost infinitely more, can be extracted from her economy than from Greece’s. And Argentina has been primed by a complacent president, put in place by those financial oligarchs, intent to milk Argentina to the bones.
Would it therefore be surprising, if the Argentine economic disaster, and consequently the IMF “rescue action” was helped a bit by “climate change” à la HAARP?
Peter Koenig is an economist and geopolitical analyst. He is also a water resources and environmental specialist. He worked for over 30 years with the World Bank and the World Health Organization around the world in the fields of environment and water. He lectures at universities in the US, Europe and South America. He writes regularly for Global Research; ICH; RT; Sputnik; PressTV; The 21st Century; TeleSUR; The Vineyard of The Saker Blog, the New Eastern Outlook (NEO); and other internet sites. He is the author of Implosion – An Economic Thriller about War, Environmental Destruction and Corporate Greed – fiction based on facts and on 30 years of World Bank experience around the globe. He is also a co-author of The World Order and Revolution! – Essays from the Resistance.
Peter Koenig is a Research Associate of the Centre for Research on Globalization.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/HAARP
The article summarizes very well MONTHS of personal search on the subject. And I’m still looking for VERIFIABLE arguments against.
(BTW, I´m technician in radio communications, radio amateur with many bucks spent in measurment equipment and some years doing a profession where you can´t speculate to resolve a problem or fix a failed apparatus…)
I suggest with all my respect that any person with doubts about that matter take a bit of time and read the article quoted before.
Many thanks for your attention..!
Very interesting article, I had no idea there was so much going on up there in the clear blue sky, and all so connected to the banality of evil down here. Thanks for a great read.
I did notice that no article is complete these days without the customary Russophobic barb, in this case:
“There’s a good chance a large percentage of this activity may stem from Russian troll farms masquerading as ordinary Americans to sow conspiracy theories on social media.[52]”
…attributed to ‘The science of fake news– Indiana University Network Science Institute.’ Fake news is a science now and not just deceitful and false information?
I had heard of attempts to control and weaponise weather during the Vietnam war but thought that belonged to the US army weirdness detailed in Jon Ronson’s book on ‘The men who stared at goats.’ and had been quietly abandoned.
Thanks anyway to Mr Koenig for information on the economic wars being waged, I’m sure that ‘They’ would use weaponised weather if they could as every other means is commonly used to twist the knife. The motivator for me to vote ‘out’ in the Brexit referendum was solely what the EU so callously and calmly did to Greece.
Back in the last century, the Australian government used to seed clouds in times of drought. That of course stopped as I said at the end of the century.
The US/Mexico wall is needed because there is going to be conscription. Most of the Neocons were draft dodgers. They know about avoiding the draft. The wall will prevent escape from the US. With cameras on everything and everyone inside the wall there will be nowhere to run. Even your mind won’t be sacred. A truth test for everyone cometh. AI lie detection. Brain imaging thoughts. And little pills with microbot hacking tools. It won’t be a brave new world.
How tall is the Trumpster’s Mexico wall? 30 feet I believe.
I have a very nice line of 31 foot ladders in case anyone is interested. Special discount price for you with pairs -one for up one side, the other for down the other.
I worry a great deal about this weather manipulation, too. I see effects on a local level, where city budgets can easily be overwhelmed by drastic weather events, making them desperate for funding. There was an event this past year that gave me hope. In Russia, at around the time of harvesting their wheat crops, there was an absolutely insane rainfall over Moscow. (Remember that photo of Putin getting drenched at a ceremony?) So Russia ended up with a record-setting crop. I wondered whether an attempt was made to sabotage this record-setting wheat crop — but for some reason, the torrential rain fell over an urban centre like Moscow instead of the fields. Counter weather manipulation by the Kremlin??
Many thanks to Peter Koenig for this outstanding article. The topic of HAARP and other weather manipulation technology needs to be discussed more often. As usual, skeptics can label it as another “crazy conspiracy theory” when there are noticeable abnormal weather patterns. HAARP isn’t the only one either of course; even Russia has an equivalent known as the Sura. There is very little information about it on both the English and Russian Wikipedias. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sura_Ionospheric_Heating_Facility
For those who want to see evidence of HAARP and geoengineering (aka chemtrails) in action for hurricanes, check this video out. Maria, Irma and Jose came one after the other, this is not “normal” weather behavior.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri4CLaS3iPI
odd that HAARP went after Argentina but not Russia or China.
HAARP has been thought to be the cause of some of China’s most devastating earthquakes.
It has definitely operating in the Asia region.
Russia and China got swine ‘flu, as did Cuba a few decades ago, courtesy, as we now know, of the CIA.
Dear Anonymous,
Peter wrote; ” Its alleged purpose “was to analyze the ionosphere and investigate the potential for developing ionospheric enhancement technology for radio communications and surveillance.”
What do ‘Over the Horizon Radars’ do? They bounce beams off the ionosphere. Russia had the first ‘Over the Horizon Radar back in the 1970’s Its nickname was ‘Woodpecker’ due to the sound the signals made.
On the 28th of July, 1976 an earthquake at Tangshan, China caused the death of 600,000 people. Coincidently the former Australian Prime Minister, Gough Whitlam and his wife Margaret were staying at Tientsin, 90 miles from the epicentre of this eruption. Reports state that just prior to the first tremor in the early morning, the sky was lit like daylight with multi-hued lights that were visible 200 miles away, and that electrical signals were also associated with this earthquake.
From 1989 to 1995 there was a lot of activity regarding this in Western Australia as reported by Harry Mason
I am a geologist-geophysicist (scientist) working in mineral exploration in Perth, Western Australia. As a private research project I have been investigating a series of strange aerial light energy events that have been reported from various areas of Western Australia (and other areas of Australia) over the past few years, but seen with increasing frequency over the last three months of this year (May-July,1996).
These light events involve either static or moving beams of orange-red light energy (usually vertical and hanging in the sky but sometimes horizontal or at 45degress), moving orange-red light energy spheres or fire balls (travelling at speeds roughly equivalent to high speed jet aircraft (+500 – 2000 mph)- observed travelling over distances of hundreds of kilometres), massive high energy ripple light flashes lasting 3-5 seconds of intense blue-white colour (seen at altitude or at ground level) descriptions such as “someone with a giant arc welder”, and an assortment of green, intense blue, white, and red lights varying in size from large as the moon to mostly very small.
These light energy events have been reported by many reliable bush observers such as geologists, pilots, air passengers, meteor astronomers, prospectors, cattle and sheep station (ranch) owners, truck drivers, aboriginal peoples, tourists etc. Such events were rarely if ever reported prior to about 1989.
e.g. on 28-05-93 one such orange-red light flew over observers in the northeastern Goldfields region of W.A., “hit” the ground, caused a 3.9 Richter earthquake, a massive explosion (heard over an area some 200km x 100km), and was followed by the rise above the ground of a very large hemisphere of very bright opaque red-orange light (equivalent in size to two-three setting moons) with a silver lining that hovered up there for about two hours “bobbing about a bit”
In about 2004, I was visited by David Miles the former Liaison Officer for Brigadier Ted Serong who offered me a job in regard to ‘Weather Modification’. David explained to me that they couldn’t create weather, but had to modify it. One explanation was that there was a typhoon heading towards Fiji, which they managed to divert and it ended up striking Vietnam. I declined the offer.
Then on the 16th to the 22nd of January 2006 there appeared on the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, apparent signals in black that appeared to be affecting the weather including a cyclone just north of Cape York which zig-zagged around for a couple of days before moving into the Pacific Ocean.
And then of course the Australian Foreign Minister Philip Ruddock went and built an ‘Over the Horizon’ Radar at Jindalee near Bunbury in Western Australia to detect Indonesian fishing boats poaching in Australian fishing waters.
Dear Andrew,
Wow, is this your own experience or are you quoting? If it is, I would love to know more about it for my own research. It seems, if I understand correctly, that you are referring to what some call “Ionospheric precursors”.
If you can, please post more. If you have documents, please share. If you want to share privately, please use the address of my Thai trans-racial facebook troll kromotaporn@gmail.com
Thanks for this contribution.
Dear Mark,
The quotes I made re Harry Mason came from his article
MY meetings with David Miles and some others are factual.
And I will get in contact with you.
The fact is….*PINE GAP* in the Aussie-outback has been a testing ground for highly advanced usa-above-top secret since at least the 1950’s.
Strange MacGregor doesn’t mention that.
Anyway, if one spends a week or 2 researching *PINE GAP*, one will be very very very surprised what “is rumored” to have taken place & takes place there.
Oh Yeah.
The Yankees are the bosses there.
The Aussies are only spectators.
And the Britts play 2nd or 3rd-level fiddle there.
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Oh dear!
Why should I mention Pine Gap? We were talking about HAARP and associated EW.
And if it is so easy to research Pine Gap, then perhaps you may have already done so. So, if Pine Gap is so interesting why don’t you tell us all about it?
I know very little about Pine Gap, except that when the Australian Prime Minister Harold Holt objected to it being built in Australia he went swimming at Portsea and his body was never recovered. When Prime Minister Gough Whitlam objected and decided not to renew the lease, the US sent in as their Ambassador Marshall Green
It is not the ‘Yankees’ who are in charge of Pine Gap, it is the US Intel groups. The Aussies are not spectators, but rather they do supply the necessities of life, but there are definite sections that are taboo, and as for the Poms (Pomegranate) well they are in definite short supply, after all it is an American Intel base and the CIA still haven’t forgot Philby or Burgess and MacLean.
Dear Andrew,
You mention the earthquake at Tangshan, China, 28th of July, 1976, which ’caused the death of 600,000 people’. If it was done by HAARP, it was an act of war. Perhaps, if we analyse how China reacted to such a horrible ‘natural’ disaster, we would learn something…
Not HAARP at this time, but perhaps Russia as both China and Russia were having disputes in regards to their border in Mongolia I think it was. Then later the USSR made a treaty with Vietnam and China felt that it was being hemmed in and so there was the Sino Vietnam war that sent so many refugees to Australia and elsewhere.
And Rio got some weird flu 3 months before the Olympic games.
And so did China if you remember back then.
Oops! Sorry; I meant that Chins received some unexpected weather in the form of precipitation just before they held the Olympic Games.
But that ‘dangerous’ swine flu that threatened the world was so bad it was milder than most normal influenzas.
And America got Trump, courtesy of Russia and China activities.
With approval of US voters.
@ Аnonymous
_ ” odd that haarp went after argentina but not rusia or china _ ”
Haarp was certainly used after both rusia and china ,
and north korea , iran , of course…
In search for underground hidden instalations…
Since primary use of haarp instalation is for mapping
deep underground shelters and tunnels….
Like ones used for underground testing of nuclear probes.
Haarp for certainly did map north korean testing tunnels ,
altough they are in the middle of mountain.
By calculating damage done to tunnels ,
power of nuclear had can be estimated.
Haarp can see through mountain.
It is so poweful device.
Of course , secondary use is for weather modifications , all around world…
It’s called “full spectrum dominance”, their term from the zionazi-gays, who have been elevated to god like status in the israeli colonies. Weaponize everything, put all aspects of colonial society to work promoting the vapitalist oligarchy.
I wonder if hidden aspects of the world we live in are not hiding in plain sight– for example, the network of railroads. Besides potentially being a massive antennae, railroads are important historically. The first optic networks (i.e. the internet) were installed along railroad rights of way.
As a lad in college, I had a friend who hopped boxcars, I remember him telling me that there was one particular railroad that one should never hop (I now suspect government contractors, narcotics and human trafficking have something to do with that). I never hopped boxcars, but had fun listening and asking questions about it, contemplating adventure while safely drinking a beer and smoking a Pall Mall.
In that time of my life, I read for the first time Dostoevsky’s The Idiot. In it I was struck by the scene where the attorney Lebedev argues that the network of railways is the star wormword that falls and poisons the waters of the earth, noting that the same networks offering man life-giving bread can also coldly exclude…
This cold exclusion is the preferred tactic or pehaps logic of Empire. A network or system is established, all life comes to depend on this network, subsistance becomes lost, connectivity becomes everything. Religious expression valorizes this connectivity in the form of choseness.
The endgame is the Andinia Plan. That’s why the kosher mafia appointed the despicable crypto Macri as governor of “Argentina”. Thus, the Khazarians will steal the Patagonia, and also the Arctic territories, the southern access to the hollow earth and the maritime transit zone of Cape Horn.
Expect the Latinos to become the new Palestinians.
Check this article, with photos of the usual criminals:
https://eladiofernandez.wordpress.com/2013/11/15/la-comunidad-judia-internacional-ha-comprado-la-patagonia-argentina-y-chilena-para-construir-un-segundo-israel-2/
the new palestinians? you mean after the gringos?
Whether or not HAARP is used to wage weather warfare, it is bizarre and obscurantist to deny the science of the greenhouse effect and the consequent climate destabilisation. EVERY single National Academy of Science and scientific society on Earth and 99% of actively publishing climate scientists concur with the hypothesis, that has roots going back to the mid-19th century and the work of Foote, Tyndall and Fourier. To imply that ALL these eminences are wrong or corrupted (why?)is quite paranoid and immensely damaging.
As for Argentina, it has been sacrificed on the bloody altar of Zionazi greed. Macri was foisted on the populace by great ‘contributions’ by Paul Singer, the hedge fund mega-parasite, who was rewarded by Macri with huge profits on his Argentinian bonds, while the mere Argentine rabble are thrown into the Hell of ‘austerity’, which here plainly melds class and ‘religious’ hatred into a vicious cult of sadistic cruelty, a sadism being inflicted around the world to further enrich the tiny parasite elite.
“Over 31,000 scientists say global warming is a total hoax; now they’re speaking out against junk science”
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-09-21-over-31000-scientists-say-global-warming-is-a-total-hoax-now-theyre-speaking-out-against-junk-science.ht
The truth that it is the Sun that drives climate and that CO2 is vital for plant growth is finally replacing the conspiracy theory that man’s activities have cause the planet to heat up.
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“Hundreds of scientists involved in 40 recent scientific papers say the scare about global warming is based on hysteria and false science”.
“In the chart below from a study by Polovodova et al, we see that 20th century warming is perfectly normal in a long-term historical context. It was no warmer – indeed, is slightly cooler – than either the Roman Warm Period or the Medieval Warming Period.”
https://politicalvelcraft.org/2018/03/27/40-new-scientific-papers-say-global-warming-does-not-exist/
The truth will out even if it does take a while.
If you want to see how spectacularly the global warming conspiracy theorists got it wrong –
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/10/30/some-failed-climate-predictions/
You’re right about Argentina though. For the Zionists “chaos is the policy”
The global warming hoax was all about globalist control. Once they were forced to admit there is no warming they changed it to “climate change”- being engineered by the military as Peter Koenig describes.
Ever noticed how “the environmentalists” absolutely never want to talk about geoengineering of the weather, or the chemical spraying from the skies. Odd don’t you think?
Tomsk,
I totally agree with you. People who argue that “climate is changing” or that “global warming is man made” have not dug into the topic and evidently lack distinction. Those who advocate it from the scientific or political perspective are either crack pots to cite an expression straight from rational wiki or have an agenda, a sinister one that is.
James Corbett does a great job at explaining it from the historical perspective in his “How big oil” 2-part documentaries. To put it simply, it is NOT due scientific process to come up with the story which explains the data before you’ve conducted the science. Anyone who hasn’t watched these is missing out on some proper research into the topic. https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil/
Recently, François Gervais, a GIEC expert member, gave a great conference on the topic. This is only in French however. https://youtu.be/FFeI8EbiQqk
With regards to one comment above who cited Rational wiki as a “source” of enlightenment. Here is my take on it https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/9/11
With regards to climate change and a truer form of history from the “environmentalism” angle, here is an anecdote:
I personally work with one of the foremost authorities on real Tesla tech on a daily basis. I say real because this has nothing to do with Musk.
In the early 80’s, under the request of Pierre Trudeau who at the time was prime minister, a meeting took place at Petro Canada’s office in Ottawa with Maurice Strong, the guy who invented the climate change narrative, which also included the aforementioned researcher/scientist and another Canadian Minister.
A second meeting took place several months later at Strong’s Baca Ranch in Colorado which included the aforementioned but also Prof. Yull Brown.
Demonstrations of ready-to-deploy clean energy tech were made in both occasions but Strong and his backers, the Rockefellers, decided to focus on a universal taxation mechanism, now known as CDM and carbon taxes. It is worth noting that at the time both David Rockefeller and Strong (Who had started a dedicated laboratory at Baca Ranch) were convinced of the value of these technologies.
Until everyone is six-foot under, unfortunately, the documents proving this will not be made public. I hope to write about a book about it, one day.
With regards to the potential skepticism on wireless energy transfer and Tesla tech which served as a basis for the development of things like HAARP, please see http://vizivtechnologies.com/
And this: https://www.google.com/search?q=viziv+technologies+antenna&client=ubuntu&hs=VBW&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj40tnFkIzgAhUFJFAKHf7LDioQ_AUIDigB&biw=1364&bih=609
Prof. Konstantin Meyl’s books and publications on the topic of scalar waves may also help shed some light from the perspective of some of the underlying technical principles. https://www.meyl.eu/go/index.php?dir=10_Home&page=1&sublevel=0
For those who speak French, I highly recommend the one titled “La guerre des ondes scalaires” or the “War of scalar waves”.
But also, from the perspective of there is no smoke without fire, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention
Also, with regards to “if they can” please see this document titled: “Weather Warfare – The Invisible U.S. Military Offensives in Weather Weaponry K. H. Snow (2002)
https://www.pdf-archive.com/2019/01/26/untitled-pdf-document-14/
Other than that, if I have hundreds and hundreds of documents on the topic of geoengineering and weather modification which are all public, it is safe to say that anyone who has properly dug into the topic has the same number of documents stashed on some external hard disk.
The two comments I have with Peter Koenig’s nonetheless great article are.
1.) I do not think that taking HAARP as an example of weather modification equipment is the best one as too much was said from way too many people who formulate opinions without knowing what they are talking about which has “polluted” the discussion. The article below from Peter Kirby gives some clues for further examples which were very well documented from the historical perspective. James Corbett’s youtube channel also has some great videos interviewing Kirby, adding further clues https://www.corbettreport.com/tag/weather-warfare/.
2.) The following document may be the/an answer to Peter’s question with regards to where HAARP is currently operating from – Which could be Poker Flats rocket range.
https://www.pdf-archive.com/2019/01/26/untitled-pdf-document-13/
“How to Wreck the Environment” — MacDonald’s Blueprint for Modern Geophysical Warfare
December 2, 2018 / By Peter A. Kirby
Geophysical warfare is a vast subject with historical examples going back into ancient Human history. Today it appears to be the main thrust of all the most cutting-edge military technologies. Even though the militaries of today are constantly engaging in it AND it is being used against our domestic population on a daily basis, most of the information pertaining to geophysical warfare remains classified. Despite this, quite a bit of good information has come out.
In the canon of publicly available literature pertaining to geophysical warfare (at least as far as sheer ostentatiousness is concerned) one example stands out among all the rest. It speaks to the use of directed electromagnetic energy in geophysical warfare with an emphasis upon weather and climate modification. It also asserts the theory of man-made global warming and the Solar Radiation Management (SRM) geoengineering thesis. This is why the document is so important to today’s New Manhattan Project, which uses dispersed particles and directed electromagnetic energy in order to modify the weather and the climate.
The document in question is Dr. Gordon James Fraser MacDonald’s (1929-2002) aptly titled 1968 essay “How to Wreck the Environment.” It appeared as a chapter of a 1968 book titled Unless Peace Comes.
The document also stands out for the fact that the author was a very capable, prominent, and well-respected scientist.
Gordon J.F. ‘How to Wreck the Environment’ MacDonald
The author first became aware of MacDonald and his work in the context of the New Manhattan Project. It appears that he was the scientist who first crystallized this effort into a comprehensive project which takes into consideration not only the weather that we experience down here in the lowest level of the atmosphere known as the troposphere, but rather something that takes into consideration: all the geophysical aspects of terrestrial Earth, the Earth’s lower and upper atmosphere, the moon, the sun, everything in between the sun and the Earth, other planets in our solar system, and outer space. All these things have varying degrees of effects upon our daily tropospheric weather and MacDonald appears to have been the scientist who integrated this new philosophy into the New Manhattan Project. He was probably instrumental in popularizing the term ‘space weather.’
In 1968 Gordon MacDonald was the associate director of the Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics at the University of California, Los Angeles as well as a member of President Johnson’s Science Advisory Committee. This was the committee that produced the 1965 document titled “Restoring the Quality of Our Environment” which stated the theory of man-made climate change and the SRM geoengineering thesis as it gave the first presidential mandate to the rest of the government to begin preparing for catastrophic man-made climate change. MacDonald was a co-author.
MacDonald was a Mitre Corporation chief scientist, served on their board of directors, and later became a trustee. This is significant because evidence suggests that the Mitre Corporation is the operational manager of all of the scientific aspects of today’s New Manhattan Project.
MacDonald was deeply involved in weather modification and the atmospheric sciences. He knew the famous Manhattan project scientist James Conant well. He knew Edward Teller and Bernard Vonnegut and worked with many other scientists associated with the NMP. He worked for the Carnegie institution as well as NASA; two organizations with extensive ties to the NMP. He was involved in the wartime rainmaking operations over North Vietnam. He got his PhD in geology at Harvard, taught geophysics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and had a hand in creating the Environmental Protection Agency. He was a member of a slew of top-level weather modification committees and a very active member of the secretive Jason group. His pedigree for participation in the New Manhattan Project was second to none.
MacDonald also chaired the Central Intelligence Agency’s MEDEA Committee which was the purported brainchild of former vice-president Al Gore. ‘Purported’ because it is hard to imagine anything being Al Gore’s brainchild. Do you remember how he invented the Internet too? Nevertheless, the MEDEA (Measurements of Earth Data for Environmental Analysis) Committee existed between 1992 and 2001 and it went about using data collected from satellites for the purpose of solving Earth’s environmental problems. Apparently the solution to our problems involves spraying megatons of toxic waste from supertanker aircraft.
Al Gore’s involvement here is pertinent because he is the most prominent proponent of the theory of man-made global warming, which has so much relevance to geophysical warfare and the New Manhattan Project. In fact, MacDonald and Gore worked together to go about bringing us a ‘carbon tax.’ MacDonald testified before a 1987 Senate Energy Committee about exactly how such a tax would work.
Ancient geoengineering
In order to put all of this into context, let us go back to some of the earliest recorded examples of geophysical warfare. We are not going to go over all the recorded examples of geophysical warfare from ancient times to 1968. That would be on the order of a large book. Here we will take a brief look at some early examples in order to illustrate the pervasiveness and effectiveness of geophysical warfare. Then, in the next section, we will fast forward back to MacDonald’s 1968 pièce de résistance.
In 612 BC, a combined force of Medes, Persians, and Babylonians apparently diverted a tributary of the Tigris river in order to penetrate the stronghold of the ancient city of Nineveh. In her landmark book The History of the Ancient World: From the Earliest Accounts to the Fall of Rome eminent historian Susan Wise Bauer writes, “A tributary of the Tigris ran through the city beneath the walls, providing it with water and making it difficult to besiege. But it seems likely that the attackers built a dam to divert more of the Tigris into the city, carrying away the foundations of the walls and breaking them away.” Bauer continues, “With the walls crumbling, the Babylonians stormed the city and sacked it.”
A little later in 539 BC, geophysical warfare (also known as ‘geoengineering’) was used to penetrate the ancient city of Babylon. Once again it was the Persians, who this time caused a lack of water rather than a flood. The Persian king Cyrus the Great caused the level of the Tigris river to fall so that his troops could enter the fortified city and lay waste to it.
Bauer writes:
Cyrus, realizing that it would take months if not years to starve the defenders out of such a huge and well-supplied city, formed another plan. Xenophon [an early Greek historian] explains it: the Tigris, which flowed right through the middle of Babylon, was deeper than two men’s height. The city could not easily be flooded, thanks to Nebuchadnezzar’s reinforcements, but Cyrus had another strategy in mind. He had trenches dug all along the Tigris, upstream from the city, and during one dark night he had his men open all the trenches simultaneously. Diverted away from its main stream in many directions, the level of the Tigris that ran through the city sank at once, enough that the Persian soldiers could march through the mud of the riverbed, under the walls of the city. The core assault unit climbed up out of the riverbed inside the city at night, covered with mud, and stumbled along through the streets, shouting as if they were drunken revelers, until they reached the palace and took it by storm… The gates were opened from the inside. The rest of the Persians came in, and the city fell.
In the late first century, Erik the Red was apparently forced to leave his native Norway after his henchmen killed his rival by causing a landslide to fall on the man’s farm.
Some geophysical warfare efforts have been more successful than others. Around 1210, the Mongol Genghis Khan attempted to flood out his enemy with disastrous results. Khan and his men were attempting to flood out the fortified Xia capital city of Chung-hsing by damming up a nearby branch of the Yellow river. It didn’t work. The poorly built dam broke and flooded the Mongol camp instead. So much for Mongolian engineering.
GJF MacDonald’s blueprint
Now that we can see all of this in context, let us examine MacDonald’s extraordinary specimen. He starts his paper with:
Among future means of obtaining national objectives by force, one possibility hinges on man’s ability to control and manipulate the environment of his planet. When achieved, this power over his environment will provide man with a new force capable of doing great and indiscriminate damage. Our present primitive understanding of deliberate environmental change makes it difficult to imagine a world in which geophysical warfare is practised. Such a world might be one in which nuclear weapons were effectively banned and the weapons of mass destruction were those of environmental catastrophe. Alternatively, I can envisage a world of nuclear stability resulting from parity in such weapons, rendered unstable by the development by one nation of an advanced technology capable of modifying the Earth’s environment. Or geophysical weapons may be part of each nation’s armoury. As I will argue, these weapons are peculiarly suited for covert or secret wars.
Now that sounds like some geoengineering! MacDonald continues:
The key to geophysical warfare is the identification of the environmental instabilities to which the addition of a small amount of energy would release vastly greater amounts of energy. Environmental instability is a situation in which nature has stored energy in some part of the Earth or its surroundings far in excess of that which is usual. To trigger this instability, the required energy might be introduced violently by explosions or gently by small bits of material able to induce rapid changes by acting as catalysts or nucleating agents. The mechanism for energy storage might be the accumulation of strain over hundreds of millions of years in the solid Earth, or the super-cooling of water vapour in the atmosphere by updraughts taking place over a few tens of minutes. Effects of releasing this energy could be world-wide, as in the case of altering climate, or regional, as in the case of locally excited earthquakes or enhanced precipitation.
MacDonald is writing about the so-called ‘butterfly effect’ here. The notion that a relatively small climatic intervention can have a tremendous effect upon the weather later is central to the New Manhattan Project and has been repeated many times.
Next, under the heading of ‘Weather Modification,’ MacDonald makes the oft-repeated comparisons between the power of storms and atomic bombs, writing, “The quantities of energy involved in weather systems exceed by a substantial margin the quantity of energy under man’s direct control.” That’s enough to make your average paranoid power junkie begin to salivate.
MacDonald then goes over some atmospheric physics pertinent to some overt weather modification activities. Like this part, much of MacDonald’s piece is pure Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) talking points and disinformation. The author has seen these types of CIA droppings hundreds of times. After all, as alluded to earlier, MacDonald was a CIA minion. He not only served as chairman of their aforementioned MEDEA Committee, he also served as the CIA liaison to the aforementioned Jason group.
MacDonald doesn’t mince words when he suggests that a hurricane might be used as a weapon. He writes that, “A controlled hurricane could be used as a weapon to terrorize opponents over substantial parts of the populated world.” Yes! They loved this one in the Pentagon! MacDonald surely loved them too.
Under the next heading of ‘Climate Modification’ MacDonald goes over some basics of atmospheric physics, then states the theory of man-made global warming and the Solar Radiation Management geoengineering thesis which involves scattering sunlight back into space with the use of dispersed atmospheric particles.
This, MacDonald asserts, can save us from the dreaded catastrophic global warming. To accomplish this, MacDonald suggests using rockets, not airplanes, but the idea is the same. This is what all the geoengineers do; they state the theory of man-made global warming and the SRM geoengineering thesis. Straight from the establishment, they’ve got your fix for their supposed problem. It’s just going to cost you some money. It is reminiscent of the Black Hand telling a local shopkeeper that, unless he pays up, his building might burn down.
He then suggests that creating a hole in the Earth’s ozone layer might be an effective weapon that could be ‘fatal to all life.’ Interesting. Outdoing even that, he then speculates that man might engineer the sun. He writes that, “advanced techniques of launching rockets and setting off large explosions” might do the trick. Then it’s on to using atomic bomb blasts to make polar ice sheets slide into the ocean, thus causing a tremendous tidal wave. Rounding out MacDonald’s cavalcade of mad science, the author writes of (among other things) nuclear bombs being used to trigger earthquakes, which, in turn, may create tidal waves that would be ‘catastrophic to any coastal nation.’
After speculating that lightning strikes might be geoengineered, MacDonald also famously writes about using the Earth’s atmosphere as a transmission medium for the delivery of electromagnetic frequencies capable of altering the Human mind. Citing some of the current research of the time, he notes that this type of activity could, “seriously impair brain performance in very large populations in selected regions over an extended period.” He writes that, “Perturbation of the environment can produce changes in behaviour patterns.” Rounding out this section he boldly asserts that, “No matter how deeply disturbing the thought of using the environment to manipulate behaviour for national advantage is to some, the technology permitting such use will very probably develop within the next few decades.”
Near the end, MacDonald writes:
Deficiencies both in the basic understanding of the physical processes in the environment and in the technology of environmental change make it highly unlikely that environmental modification will be an attractive weapon system in any direct military confrontation in the near future. Man already possesses highly effective tools for destruction.
Eventually, however, means other than open warfare may be used to secure national advantage. As economic competition among many advanced nations heightens, it may be to a country’s advantage to ensure a peaceful natural environment for itself and a disturbed environment for its competitors. Operations producing such conditions might be carried out covertly, since nature’s great irregularity permits storms, floods, droughts, earthquakes and tidal waves to be viewed as unusual but not unexpected. Such a ‘secret war’ need never be declared or even known by the affected populations. It could go on for years with only the security forces involved being aware of it. The years of drought and storm would be attributed to unkindly nature and only after a nation were thoroughly drained would an armed take-over be attempted.
The previous paragraph is about using geophysical warfare against foreign enemies. In his final sentence, MacDonald hints that these technologies might be used domestically. He writes that political issues arising from the use of geophysical warfare technologies “deserve consideration by serious students throughout the world if society is to live comfortably in a controlled environment.”
MacDonald’s prophecies have come true.
Gordon J.F. ‘How to Wreck the Environment’ MacDonald is, by all indications, along with Teller, Vonnegut and others, one of the keys to all of the scientific aspects of today’s New Manhattan Project. MacDonald may be the most important because of how he apparently brought everything together.
Notes
“How to Wreck the Environment,” an essay by Gordon James Fraser MacDonald as it appeared in the 1968 book Unless Peace Comes, edited by Nigel Calder, published by Viking Books, 1968
Chemtrails Exposed: A New Manhattan Project, a book by Peter A. Kirby, self-published, 2016
The History of the Ancient World: From the Earliest Accounts to the Fall of Rome, a book by Susan Wise Bauer, published by W.W. Norton, 2007
The History of the Medieval World: From the Conversion of Constantine to the First Crusade, a book by Susan Wise Bauer, published by W.W. Norton, 2010
The History of the Renaissance World: From the Rediscovery of Aristotle to the Conquest of Constantinople, a book by Susan Wise Bauer, published by W.W. Norton, 2013
Peter A. Kirby is a San Rafael, CA researcher, writer, and activist.
Cheers,
Mark
Whether malign forces are seeking to modify the climate or weather to their ends (and I do not doubt that they are) is irrelevant to climate destabilisation science. The theory is supported by every single Academy of Science, scientific society, 99% of actively publishing climate scientists, and 200 years of theorising and observation. Al Gore and Maurice Strong are irrelevant to the laws of physics that support the theory, and the unarguable observations from reality that show increasingly rapid climate destabilisation over the last 100 years. Moreover the forcing of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere over the last 200 years, is the greatest, by ten to twenty times, and fastest that we know of in the last several hundred million years. Furthermore we know that such greenhouse events, but slower and less marked, have been associated with most of the previous mass extinctions events in the history of life on Earth. To deny paleoclimate research, the laws of physics, 200 years of theorising, a massive scientific consensus, and the observations from reality is very misguided, to say the least. With 150 zettajoules of heat (10 to the 21st power)sequestered in the oceans over the last 200 years, we are already destined to suffer millennia of climate chaos, although I rather suspect that humanity will NOT survive that long. After all anthropogenic climate destabilisation is just one of several disasters driving the current ecological Holocaust.
You are so wrong in your beliefs Mulga, I don’t know where to start… but I’ll try.
How about this link for starters, https://www.rbf.org/grantees/greenpeace-fund? Notice the name behind this scam – Rockefeller?
What about this interview from years ago, Alex Jones interviews a Rothschild regarding man made climate change and ‘global warming’? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzKFnWpPpdM&feature=youtu.be Is it any wonder that Russian scientists still believe that an ice age is imminent? Only well funded western scientists continue their often repeated notion that 99% of their ilk say the earth is warming to unsustainable levels.
What happens when you pump more CO2 into the atmosphere in an experiment, say from the 390 ppm to 550 ppm? Answer, the trees absorb it all and grow 30% faster: https://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s1901661.htm No real surprise given photosynthesis is nature’s way of restoring the balance in the atmosphere.
Why is it that 3/4 of Antarctica (the coldest place on earth) is growing ice sheets? Answer, it can’t be because of warming as the scammers would have us believe.
It was only 30 years ago that scientists were unanimous in their belief that we would have an ice age soon.
Why are images of polar bears slipping off ice sheets constantly shown as if they are drowning due to severe global warming? Hint, bears can swim for 500 miles. Not much likelihood for them of drowning.
Why do alarmists continue to forecast doom and gloom about the state of the great barrier reef when it is as healthy as ever? Note, some fish happen to feed off and suck the color out of the coral.
Why is the corrupt institution that is MSM always going on about climate change and global warming? Isn’t that a sure sign that we are being conned?
Over 1 million years ago, before man set foot on planet earth, it is common knowledge among scientists (from geological studies) that the concentration of CO2 in the earth’s atmoshphere was much greater than today?
CO2 comprises 0.035% of the atmoshphere. It is insignificant in content to contribute to any global warming. Use Venus and Mars as reference: https://earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/9857/carbon-dioxide-on-mars-venus-and-earth
Commonsense is your best friend when scientists lie to continue to receive funding from government and private entities^^^^.
They are not ‘my thoughts’-they are what the US National Academy of Sciences has declared ‘settled science’, and EVERY Academy of Science and scientific society on Earth concurs with. I merely repeat their consensus in the face of the fossil fuel industry and Rightwing ideologues’ denialism industry, that rejects science, rationality and evidence, like many other religious cults. To reject all that evidence, garnered over 200 years of research and observation simply by chanting some magic word, like ‘Rockefeller’, is quite bizarre.
Western scientists are well-remunerated, in many cases, but not all, but receive vastly less than the denialists, who are very richly rewarded by the fossil fuel industry. The best research, while agreeing that increased CO2 in greenhouses or small, enclosed, natural forests, does increase plant growth, finds that on the macro-scale, as in entire biospheres, increased CO2 will cause deeper droughts, more erratic and often heavier, rainfalls and the spread of insect and bacterial, fungal and viral diseases, and this research is being borne out already in reality.
Antarctic sea ice was growing over recent years (although this now appears to have reversed this year)but science explained that phenomenon. The increased melting of the Antarctic ice-caps had caused greater fresh-water run-off into the southern seas, and that fresh water floated on top of the sea-water, and was more susceptible to freezing, hence the greater extent of sea-ice, while the vastly more important ice on the Antarctic continent was melting at ever greater rates. It is a blessing that science and rationality are on hand to dismiss denialist tropes.
Polar bears can swim 500 miles, can they? Dear me. Thirty years ago ‘scientists’ (what ‘scientists’?) were NOT ‘unanimous’ that we were soon to enter an Ice Age. Scientists are never ‘unanimous’ about anything, and even when there were a few misconstrued stories speculating on a coming Ice Age (because of the fall in global average temperatures from 1940-80, which is now put down to particulate pollution and ‘global dimming’)the vast majority of climate scientists were more concerned, correctly, about future warming. The Great Barrier Reef has bleached several times since 1998, the first occasions for at least 400 years. The last two bleachings killed the northern third stone dead, and caused massive damage elsewhere. To say that it is ‘..as healthy as ever’ is so bizarrely wrong, so opposite to all reports, by experts and the lay public, as to be truly stupefying, but one never ceases being gob-smacked by the denialist cult’s facility for inverting reality. Your assertion that fish cause coral bleaching is at least laughable, and almost entertaining. As for the MSM, here in Austfailure at least, the entire Murdoch cancer is viciously (as in all things) denialist, as are large parts of other MSM empires, most of the Rightwing shock-jock sewer and large parts of social media. The ABC and much of the rest tend to ignore the catastrophe, or observe a bizarre ‘even-handedness’ between science and rationality, and the denialist death-cult. And the 0.035% (decades out of date-it is now 0.0415%)’argument’ is one of the poorest that the denialist cult proffers. The science as to why such small quantities of CO2 are crucial to global temperatures is settled, has been so for decades and the mechanism explained in High School science classes for ages. As an embarrassing ‘argument’ it is straight from the bottom of the barrel. And the assertion that ‘scientists lie’ (ie tens of thousands of them) is insulting and amounts to little other than the crudest pathopsychological projection.
Mulga wrote:
“The increased melting of the Antarctic ice-caps had caused greater fresh-water run-off into the southern seas, and that fresh water floated on top of the sea-water, and was more susceptible to freezing, hence the greater extent of sea-ice, while the vastly more important ice on the Antarctic continent was melting at ever greater rates.”
Seriously? Do you make this stuff up or do you genuinely believe what you write?
If as you say, the CO2 levels in the atmosphere are currently at 0.0415%, I ask you how can that amount in the atmosphere possibly trap anything, including heat? If the heat can get in, it can also find a way out of our atmosphere, period.
Very unimpressive. Period.
@mark,
your link to the pdf-archive (‘How to wreck the environment’) is blocked by my virus scanner. Since I use Kaspersky, we cannot exclude vile Russian interference ;-)
Cheers, Rob
Dear Mark,
You must be far more advanced in your applications than I, and the song Ranting roving Robin, ye are nae goof. Myself, I was but a simple plod who learnt about corruption the hard way.
Now back in Western Australia at the time of Harry Mason there was a man called Joe Vialls who wrote about many things including Port Arthur on which I did my apprenticeship. But Joe also wrote about the Bali bombing and mentioned Captain Rodney Damon Cocks of the ADF who was at Kuta when the bombs went off. Cocks later was in the UN team in Bagdad when a bomb went off killing the head of the UN team, and then after a short rest Cocks went to Afghanistan, and featured there.
Joe Vialls also wrote about the Aceh tsunami and mentioned something called a mini-nuke which I later realised was an euphemism for what were the electro-magnetic scalar weapons that Harry Mason had witnessed in W. A. from 1989 to 1996 and by this time I was calling Joe MI6’s Head of Station Perth, but Joe was far more than that. What was being tested in W. A, at that time then moved to a Pacific Atoll by the French who in 1996 resumed their Atomic Bomb testing that had been finalised in about 1974.
I hope that you have received the emails I sent you. You see, Joe Vialls was very well educated in regards to weather modification and HAARP.
Tomsk, I agree with you. Global warming has nothing to do with normal human functions. It’s big business. “Someone” is getting BIG bucks outs of the fake “warming” tax, which most countries signed up for. Just like the latest “modern migration” idiocy.
The fossil fuel industry is a thousand times more lucrative to the ruling globalist parasites than climate science and avoidance of omnicidal climate destabilisation could ever be.
Which is why you wrote about Peak Oil back in the early 2000’s.
The Sun, of course, is the main driver of our weather and climate, but the role of greenhouse gases, like CO2, methane and water vapour in exacerbating weather and climate is undeniable. It is settled science based on the laws of physics and centuries of theorising and observation. The 31,000 ‘scientists’ in the infamous Oregon Statement (long ago thoroughly discredited) contain very few, if any, actively researching climate scientists. Quoting Watts just discredits your argument. As for climate destabilisation science being a ‘hoax’, why has NO evidence of this conspiracy, that must include ALL the Academies of Science and scientific societies on Earth, been produced. As to ‘globalists’, they are active in driving the denialist industry, because fossil fuels are by far the largest repository of wealth on Earth, with assets valued in the tens of trillions, that also underpin the global financial apparatus and US global petro-dollar hegemony. Moreover the observations from reality, of increasing global average temperatures, growing megafire intensity and frequency, the melting and, in increasingly more places, disappearance of montane glaciers, and the rapidly increasing melting of the Greenland and Antarctic ice-caps, are simply irrefutable. I myself sat through a record temperature of 46.6 degrees Celsius this week, and that and the hellishly hot and dry summer here, is no ‘hoax’.
Mulga,
I am going to direct you and others to the presentation of a prof. Ηλίας Δ. Μαριολάκος (Mariolakos). And here I confess he talks about weather changes major events (in Europe) and the relationship of humans and various gods depending on the changing weather patters.
Anyway, just look at the charts, here I wish the camera was more concentrating on the charts instead of him.
At 12:30 prof. of geo-sciences is showing temperature charts from about 1mln years to about 12000yrs ago. He talks about Earth temperatures being dependent mostly on Earths distance from the Sun, which constantly changes, which he points out: it varies constantly.
At 16:06 he shows temperature charts from about 4000years ago to today. The one on the right side is of importance where the red vertical lines indicate important events in human history, which as he points out coincided with temperature peeks. This chart shows that right now we have actually the lowest temperatures since the last Ice Age, which could end up in an ice age.
At 31:58 he shows see levels starting at 18000yrs ago, which was the result of ice melting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9qEVz21Z9Y
I do not doubt that these charts can be found at some English geo-temp websites.
He explains that these charts are the result of studies of the ice in Iceland.
Sometime ago, I also read about Russian scientists getting 1km long samples from some lake in Antarctic, which were said to be deepest.
On the other hand, one American prof said that nobody wants to listen to people like him, who are contradicting global warming, while they pay $millions to people like Gore who peddle Global Warming.
I guess now the “Global Warming Warriors” changed the song to Weather Changes as opposed to Global Warming.
“one American prof said that nobody wants to listen to people like him, who are contradicting global warming”
Poor guy. He should contact David Koch and the Cato Institute. According to Greenpeace the Koch brothers have spent well over $100,000,000 over a ten year period for exactly these purposes. Not to mention peering over the shoulder of PBS through major funding of Nova by the David H. Koch Fund for Science. And of course, funding the Tea Party through the Americans for Prosperity PAC.
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/climate-deniers/koch-industries/
One of the denialists’ stupidest ‘arguments’ is that climate destabilisation science is some sort of pot of gold, when the denialists’ patrons in the fossil fuel industry represent tens of trillions in ‘wealth’, the greatest repository of material assets in human history, that underpin the global financial system and US petro-dollar hegemony, and which, if we ever got serious about averting near term human extinction (no sign of that, and probably already too late)would be reduced in value to zero. I imagine that these plutocrat parasites must be chuckling at the ease of recruiting ‘useful idiots’ to their omnicidal, Life-hating, crusade.
A little more on the Koch brothers, who are an interesting study. Other efforts by the Koch brothers to promote free-enterprise ideology are Charles Koch’s Republic of Science initiative to which he has allocated USD200,000,000 since 1980. This money goes to fund faculty positions, researchers and think tanks who have embraced his ideological principles. To be fair to Mr Koch, that is not his stated goal, that’s just the way it happens to work out.
https://www.charleskochinstitute.org/news/charles-koch-republic-science/
The Koch brothers are interesting since they are MIT trained engineers, they aren’t intellectual lightweights. They are respectful of scientific authoritative expertise and generally accept the scientific consensus on climate change. With a couple of caveats though.
First that climate change does not pose a significant threat to the earth’s ecosystem and may even be helpful over the long term.
Second, that no laws should be passed to address, correct or mitigate the effects of climate change.
So their focus is not trying to convince the general public. As long as laws do not change it doesn’t really matter what people think. Their principal goal is ensuring politicians are elected that are supportive of their positions. In the 2018 mid-term election cycle alone the Koch brothers allocated approximately USD400,000,000 raised through their network of non-profits in support of various candidates.
Supported candidates have been asked to sign a pledge to promise to vote against “legislation relating to climate change unless it is accompanied by an equivalent amount of tax cuts.”
Those of us who have been around for awhile come to realize that big money is what really drives political and economic systems. Especially in the US after the passage of the Citizens United decision.
Al Gore is no pauper. Gore made an estimate USD26,000,000 on An Inconvenient Truth. His personal net worth is estimated to be at least USD200,000,000. But compared to Charles and David Koch he is a lightweight, Their combined net worth is USD100,000,000,000, about fifty times Gore’s total. Food for thought.
Sorry, but that is all simply wrong. One ‘professor’ against ALL the Academies of Science and scientific societies and 99% of actively researching climate scientists? It does not pass the laugh test. Climate scientists have numerous ice-cores, from Antarctica, Greenland and montane glaciers and they UNIVERSALLY show that the warming of the last 200 years is unprecedented in at least 55 million years, back to the PETM, but probably is at least ten times more rapid than then. The thought that ALL these scientific eminences are wrong, and ONE ‘professor’ correct is simply preposterous, and the supposition that, alternatively, they are all engaged in a conspiracy orchestrated by Al Gore is beyond preposterous.
Mulga, he is not just one. On the other hand: I am guessing that your poor dog has been kicked numerous times. I see your posts as nothing else but trolling and insulting all the posters who disagree with your agenda. So globalist, so communist. Interesting, that you haven’t called anyone fascist yet.
I haven’t ‘insulted’ any of the denialists. I have simply pointed out the errors that they are uttering, in a matter that concerns the fate of all Life on Earth. When one sees untruths, half-truths, distortions and misrepresentations that have been refuted over and over again by science and observation, and that are well-known to have been created and disseminated by the fossil fuel industry, the REAL globalists of the neo-liberal Right and Rightwing demagogues, it is a moral responsibility to refute these catastrophic untruths. I don’t ‘insult’ the denialists-they do that themselves by their actions.
You are quoting often repeated lies. You are actually quoting political science numbers of a select group (i.e. 99% people representing the UN Climate Change commitee or Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)) who are charged with spreading alarmist propaganda coupled with no factual data to support their agenda.
When Al Gore is spearheading their campaign, you know there is something fishy about their motives.
The Al Gore fetish of the denialist death-cult is truly bizarre. Climate science represents the work, observations and conclusions of tens of thousands of scientists over generations (and the vast bulk of other scientists concur, as attested by the assent of ALL the Academies of Science and scientific societies on Earth)and all the denialist cultists have to refute that consensus is Al Gore, with Maurice Strong thrown in occasionally for paranoid variation. If the fate of billions was not hanging in the balance, it would be hilariously funny to witness the delusion, paranoia and ignorance in action, but as it does represent an existential calamity for all Life on Earth, it, in my opinion, actually represent’s Goethe’s greatest dread-ignorance in action. Self-righteous, ignorant, thoroughly brainwashed ignorance.
Dear Molga Mumblebrain,
Although I agree with the second part of your assessment, who are all these eminences that you mention in the first part, if I may? You seem to imply a consensus which unequivocally shows that you do not know what you are talking about. As per the state of science today, you are deluded. It is unfortunate that I can’t state my real name and what I do for a living so as to back up my claims with a long list of evidence.
The editor of the The Lancet, Richard Horton’s contribution in the April of 2015 edition of the aforementioned scientific magazine, may actually shed some light into such claims as “ALL these eminences” or claiming that people are “quite paranoid” or “immensely damaging”…
https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2960696-1.pdf
And oh, good luck for debunking this one.
Cheers,
Mark
Of course I am aware of the massive outbreaks of faked science, particularly in medical and pharmaceutical research. But they are committed in pursuit of profit, the God of capitalism. Likewise the profit motive drives the anthropogenic climate destabilisation denialism industry, as we know from that industry’s financing by the fossil fuel industry (the wealthiest by far on Earth), so the corrupting influence of capitalism drives denialism, not climate science. And unlike the corrupt science involved in pharmaceutical research, there has been no proof presented of any corruption in climate science, despite the denialist industry’s efforts to concoct it, eg in the ‘Climategate’ fiasco. Follow the money and you end up with the fossil fuel industry, Rightwing propaganda and various other malign actors.
@Mulga Mumblebrain Hi! Yes, concerning your first paragraph, I totally agree and it’s sad to watch people denying the research of thousands of honest climate scientists and the obvious evidence of environmental destruction caused by climate change. The 31,000, 31,000, 31,000 figure is being broadcast much like the 6 million, 6 million, 6 million figure people eventually believed.
“Civilization” is a heat engine. Everything manufactured and used generates heat. To think otherwise, as you know, is a fools paradise. So, the real “climatologists” are saying, yes, added to the heat engine, the sun is in one of it’s lower energy cycles but civilizations heat engine is greater in effect than the reduction of the suns radiation.
Dane Wiggington of http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org has a fascinating site with many excellent presentations about government weather modification. He shows demonstrations of weather modification being exhibited by 1920s biplanes, U.S. Patents on weather modification devices as well as government papers indicating the use of weather modification. The evidence is quite profound.
He contends that HAARP is being used to focus high energy at specific frequencies to heat up the ionosphere which will in turn create high pressure areas which then can be steered, also with directed energy.
Being an elderly, long retired airline captain, I’m a student of clouds. Areas of clouds with checkerboard patterns of 90 degree perpendicularity are not natural. I’m not certain of their use, though Wiggington is. I do know natural cloud formations are being tampered with. Not everywhere nor all the time.
Early on, I was disagreeing with the idea of “Chemical Trails” behind high altitude aircraft. I flew for years in the environment of contrails, which is water vapor created as the result of combustion exhaust, which is frozen as cloud particles at high altitude and low temps. Essentially the same phenomenon as the cloud your breath makes in very cold air.
I disagree with Wiggington who claims that modern high bypass jet engines are an all large jet aircraft and are incapable of making con trails. Evidence proves that high bypass engine are more inclined to generate condensation. The way I see it now, is that if the white trail streaming behind a jet vanishes quickly or within a short span of time, it’s most likely a condensation trail. However, if the trail behind the jet gradually spreads out over a large area, it may be the introduction of aluminum nano particles being “broadcast” into the atmosphere as a means to reflect some of the sun’s radiation back into space, rather than warming the earths atmosphere. It appears that the powers that be, whoever they are, are really concerned about global warming. Alzhimer’s Disease seems to be related to high aluminum content in the brain. Makes a thinker think! We are breathing aluminum nano particles, which are also on and in the water. Maybe it’s not cooking in aluminum utensils as some have thought.
On to the jet stream! A few decades ago, the jet stream in the western hemisphere didn’t wander much, and it was rarely south of South Dakota, United States. Now, it wonders way down into Mexico and back up. Steering frontal weather systems, droughts and heavy rains. I’ve heard highly plausible
explanations that it’s related to the effects of global warming. And yet, to what extent are the weather patterns being directed. Often the highs, lows, and frontal systems seen on weather maps today are chaotic compared to decades past. What’s the real cause? Global warming>climate change, weather modification, or both.
http://www.geoengineering.com demonstrates the use of chemical particulates added to warm air or water to create snow in improbable conditions. When heavy snow occurs over a heavily populated area in relatively warm air, Wiggington asserts that it’s a form of propaganda making people believe that global warming is only a hoax. The chemical particulates are also used to form surface ice for reflective, and perhaps propaganda purposes.
In any event, the heat energy of civilization is slowly cooking us and the other species which can to well without us.
The best to you!
A good explanation of the difference between condensation trails left by aircraft and the chemical spraying which has been going on for many years now.
And of course not only is “global warming” a hoax as well as a great “justification” to extract even more taxes from people but scientists who are not on the “man made global warming” gravy train have actually been warning of a major mini ice age. which could bring famine.
“Aussie Scientist Dr. David Evans: New solar theory predicts imminent global cooling: Dr. David Evans: As we head to the UNFCCC meeting in Paris 2015 where global bureaucracy beckons, a sharp cooling change appears to be developing and set to hit in the next five years. Yet consortia of five-star politicians are not preparing for climate change, only for global warming. Around the world a billion dollars a day is invested in renewable energy, largely with the hope of changing the weather. Given that 20% of the world does not even have access to electricity, history books may marvel at how screwed priorities were, and how bureaucratized science cost so much more than the price of the grants”.
“Major Danish Daily Newspaper Warns: ‘Globe May Be On Path To Little Ice Age…Much Colder Winters…Dramatic Consequences’! – Paper features Danish solar physicist Henrik Svensmark on the subject of the UN IPCC: ‘…many of the climate models used by IPCC and others overestimate the influence of CO2 and underestimate the influence of the sun. … The IPCC is very one-sided, so I don’t think there will be anything reasonable in the next report.’ ”
https://principia-scientific.org/scientists-and-studies-predict-imminent-global-cooling/
A good rule of thumb seems to be – if the political elite say something is true then it’s probably a lie.
Denialists have been predicting ‘mini-Ice Ages’ for decades, yet the last five years have been the five warmest in recorded history. Indeed the so-called ‘warming pause’ was caused by factors like reduced solar output that would have ‘normally’ caused falls in global average temperatures, yet they, instead, continued increasing, albeit at reduced rate. When that influence ended, they re-commenced their rapid increase. And not just the atmosphere is rapidly warming, but, crucially, the oceans also, where the heat sequestered over the last 200 years guarantees millennia of climate disruption, massive cyclonic storms and death to all the planet’s coral reefs. Plus huge increases in rainfall intensity and the frequency of deluges.
Warming is in fact a measurement issue. What do you measure ? ocean temperature, sea temperature in one place, shade temperate in a cold or warm region, or sun strike temp in cold or warm regions ? I have to question what warming measurements are in fact being quoted to us in this debate and are they the ones we should use ?
Earth orbital cycles around the sun also effect things.
Why have we had colder winters in recent years of global warming is occurring ?
Also the sun’s solar output runs in heartbeats which varies things along with the the earth magnetic field which deflects the solar wind.
The climatological record shows every 8000-10,000 and ice age cycle ocurrs and we were due to go into one late last century so the carbon we have input into the system will offset that and keeps us from freezing in the end. It will also prevent the northern ice cap causing destablization of the the earths spin which triggers crustal adjustments like happened 13000yrs ago.
I repeat it is OZONE HOLES that has caused the problems, and they are slowly repairing now.
Those holes are letting a lot more solar radiation to hit the surface and is why the ocean temp is higher and are summers. The holes also are breaking up the carbon layer faster than usual. Once the holes close the problem will stop and things will offset and plants/trees will absorb the carbon but we do need to watch & control the carbon levels thereafter.
The fact is this climate change only became noticeable after a few decades of ozone hole chemicals, not after centuries of burning carbon. Why wasnt there the change noticeable prior to 1950 when those chemical began use in areosol cans? Answer because the ozone holes werent there.
A problem also arises because the northern and southern hemispherical atmospheric systems do not exchange much energy AND the ratio of land to ocean is opposite in each – 80% to 20% land to ocean in the north , whereas in the south it is 20% land to 80% ocean (approx) – and this relevant because the oceans store heat in summer and release it in winter. This is why the northern hemisphere has such a cold winter at the oceans there are releasing enough heat, whereas in the southern the winters are mild because of a lot of ocean heat release. If we could figure a way to enable hemispherical exchange of the energy it may make things better perhaps ?
Arthur, I agree with you. I have seen pictures of Ozone layers taken at different times with conclusion was: they are repairing itself. I guess, clamping down on aerosols’ usage is working.
Just like the pictures of the ice in the North suggested that the ice is also repairing itself. Hence the comment above about new Russian icebreakers (the largest ever “monsters”) , which as I have read Russia is building two of.
To say that the sea ice in the Arctic north is ‘repairing itself’ is completely erroneous. It does ‘repair itself’ when winter arrives (is that what you are thinking of?)but in summer it continues its death-spiral in extent and volume. Moreover the northern permafrost is melting, leading to eruptions of methane leaving huge craters and land slumps scattered across Siberia, and rising Arctic methane levels. When the submarine frozen methane clathrates begin releasing their gas at catastrophic levels, a process implicated in previous episodes of rapid climate destabilisation, and subsequent mass extinctions, no doubt the denialists will declare that the clathrates are ‘repairing themselves’ as global average temperatures rise by several degrees, possibly within a few decades, as we know has happened in the past. I doubt that even such a hideous catastrophe will stop the denialists denying-it’s a cult after all.
Dear Mulga Bill from Eaglehawk,
Methane is a ‘heavier than air’ gas as I have previously mentioned. It is also somewhat unstable as I pointed out with the dunny explosion at the POW camp in Germany. So here is a question from what you have told us. How does one ‘freeze’ methane gas? What produces methane gas? as I took it that methane is normally a product of cows and similar creatures passing flatulence.
Another question in regard to methane gas in a solid state as surely a frozen methane would have to be in a solid state very similar to ‘Dry Ice’.
Now how exactly can the northern permafrost create a temperature that would permit methane to become solidified? Then consider your statement in regard to ‘eruptions of methane leaving huge craters and land slumps across Siberia’. What would be the catalyst to create the chemical transformation of solidified Methane to a gaseous methane and then a further reduction from methane (CH4) to carbon and hydrogen?
Is this the same ‘scientific studies’ that found that an AR-15 fired inside a café would produce Mach4 soundwaves?
Good questions, Andrew. However, rather than requesting exposition on the difference between methane gas and methane hydrate, perhaps it might be more fruitful to first have some understanding of this well-studied and well-understood phenomenon. One might start with this link and work back through some of the referenced published studies:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane_clathrate
Thank you David.
Fell asleep during High School science did you Andrew. Methane is produced by the anaerobic decomposition of organic matter, by bacteria. In the presence of oxygen they produce CO2. Much methane is trapped in geological strata from ancient decomposition of organic material, the same process that produces oil. Therefore the fracking of natural gas ie methane, with its leakage rate of at least 5%, is yet another great forcing of greenhouse climate destabilisation.
The melting of the permafrost allows organic matter trapped in the frozen earth to be attacked by bacteria, hence the production of CO2 and methane. The explosions of methane across Siberia have been observed for the last few years, with some spectacular photos available for the thinking observer.
As for frozen methane, the process occurs at certain temperatures and pressures. The submarine clathrates on the floor of the East Siberian and other Arctic seas are at relatively shallow depths, because they were laid down when the seas were frozen year around, and warming solar radiation did not reach the sea-bed. Now that the ice is rapidly disappearing in summer, the clathrates are melting, and areas of sea with the methane reaching the surface and bubbling away into the atmosphere, have reached the size of one kilometre across. Such clathrates exist in the Antarctic seas, too, and in other seas at sufficient depth where the temperature and pressure enable their formation.
All this is well-known and unrefuted science. May I suggest the ‘Arctic News’ web-site where you could inform yourself of the situation.
Dear Mulga Bill,
I think you missed a point. As previously stated I never went to ‘High School’, I went to Heidelberg Technical College, and the only time Methane came up in Mr Burke’s classes was when one of the lads passed flatulence, though Mr Burke did mention on the odd occasion Mustard Gas as during the war he worked in the CSIRO in the production of that gas.
But then Mulga, you wrote this; “Much methane is trapped in geological strata from ancient decomposition of organic material, the same process that produces oil.”
For a start I would refer to Greenland which is in a similar position to Siberia and yet the Vikings settled there prior to this latest Ice Age, which would suggest that the ice build up in Siberia is relatively modern, and then I believe every now and again the old Woolly Mammoth have been found in Siberia, which would again suggest that the ‘ancient decomposition of organic material’ that you wrote about may in fact be fictional.
Most certainly your position in regard to “the same process that produces oil” totally conflicts with your early statements of working in India on an oil drilling rig in the 1980’s, drilling down to 40,000 feet, and then being sabotaged by the CIA. You would have realised that ‘fossil fuels’ could never have been created by decomposition at 40,000 feet below, and so that myth was busted.
And finally of course your sojourn into Iran and it’s oil fields where you first learnt to speak Farsi at the time the UK and the US led by Kermit Roosevelt back in the early 1950’s would also have demonstrated that.
Agree that Arctic ice doesnt repair but ozone is slowly. Once ozone does most of these climate problems will go away. Ice re-forms. The oil companies ought to be figuring out a way to capture that methane ice.
The alleged Arctic ice melt is an interesting issue and the cause of it will probably be that the 80% of land in the north hemisphere is heating up more in summer than it use to due to the increased ozone hole caused UV & infra red heat getting thru. The Antarctic isnt losing much summer ice because of the 20% land in the southern hemisphere isnt heating up the air above it as much like the northern.
And on methane you Mulga ought not to go on about this given the number of chickens you use to have on your patio. Remember what Jesus said “He who is without sin should cast the first stone”.
Honestly. To refute 200 years of science and instead declare ozone depletion responsible for Arctic sea ice and permafrost melting, has absolutely no credibility. Zero, zilch, nada, nothing. Denialist fanaticism is surely a horror to behold. To call the Arctic summer sea ice melt ‘alleged’ is the equivalent of describing gravity as ‘alleged’. The science, not denialist mambo-jambo, explaining this catastrophe is well established. It began with Arrhenius in the 1890s who successfully prophesied that the heating would be greater at high latitudes, as it has been. When that occurred it brought about an ‘albedo flip’ where white, reflective, ice was replaced by dark, heat-absorbing, sea, that further ‘amplified’ northern heating, in a nasty feedback loop. And Antarctic ice loss is rapidly accelerating, both in the West Antarctic and, ominously, Eastern Antarctica, too. You should try and keep up with the science and observations so as not to embarass yourself.
Mulgabrain,
Your own post in fact confirms my statement by saying it is SOLAR RADIATION that is heating the oceans and melting polar ice, so the question is what has caused it to increase in recent decades ?
Answer – this whole problem is caused by the extra energy the ozone holes are letting thru.
Once the ozone holes repair the extra energy striking the land / ocean will be cut off and the atmospheric processes will stablize again. They solution is to cut of that extra energy.
Carbon has been with us for millions of years – from volcanoes, from wildfires and human activities but no significant sea ice has melted as a result. It is not the key problem as it is recycles into plants etc…. The polar ice effects have only been seen since the ozone holes opened up (with lagged effects) and that fact should signal the true cause.
This whole carbon crisis & climate change narrative of recent times is about using it as an excuse to raise taxes so leftist Govts can use it to fund and pork barrel their spending agenda’s. Its a racket. This is another reason why it must be scrutinized thoroughly and myths exposed.
(Also forgot to mention – all the carbon you yourself, Mulga, put in the atmosphere by smoking cigars & cigarettes for 60 years also limits your credibility on this whole topic).
Arthur, your obtuse refusal to comprehend or understand the science, which must be a source of great distinction among your peer group, reminds me of Goethe’s observation that there is nothing more dangerous than ignorance in action. In this case terminally dangerous for all humanity. What an epitaph that will make.
Thanks, Barry. I do not doubt that the capitalist powers that be are capable of ANY atrocity to protect their ‘Precious’- their profits and wealth. I am quite convinced that they prefer their money to the lives of future generations, even their own spawn, after their own deaths, because we know that they have known of the greenhouse effects from emissions of their products, for several decades. This only drove them to create and finance the denialist industry to guarantee an unprecedented, probably final, catastrophe for humanity. Mind you, we already knew from the actions of the tobacco (hundreds of millions killed in the greatest Holocaust of all), asbestos (know to be toxic since the days of the Romans)junk-food and numerous other capitalist enterprises, that capitalists are often Evil psychopaths with no sympathy for others, and often a ferocious antipathy towards others.
Mulgabrain,
As someone who did meteorology at university climate change is more due to effects from ozone holes where intermittent energy pulses are destablizing the usual weather systems, ocean-atmosphere interactions and differentials in poleward energy transfer. Greenhouse is on a minor thing in the total equation and everyone is ignoring the fact UV radiation from the sun breaks down carbon in the upper layers over time anyway. And none of those scientists have ever got into the upper atmosphere to do any direct tests.
The destruction of ozone is being exacerbated by the intrusion into the stratosphere of water vapour, as a result of the warming of the troposphere. The prime driver of global climate is the Sun, then there are the Milankovich Cycles, well-known and that have driven the cycle of glaciation and de-glaciation during recent Ice Ages, but it is simply denialist propaganda to deny the role of greenhouse gases like CO2, methane, nitrous oxide, CFCs and HCFCs and water vapour in climate destabilisation. The scientific evidence for their crucial role is irrefutable-by science, at least.
You know Mulga,
I had a mate, Les Davidson who was captured in Crete during the war. He told me of one ‘digger’ who was sitting in an ‘outhouse’ (Dunny) having a cigarette, and when he finished his contemplations he tossed the butt into the hole. Both he and the outhouse took off like a skyrocket (must have been the cabbage) which caused hysterics amongst both the prisoners and the guards.
I guess that many people forget that gases such as methane and carbon dioxide are heavier than air and methane and some other gases such as carbon monoxide are also rather unstable.
I was actually thinking that perhaps in the near future with the explosion of the human race and other creatures on this planet that ‘greenhouse gases’ could be a good thing to help increase vegetation and food production, but then I never studied such things at Heidelberg Tech, we only did science and physics.
Increased CO2 does have a beneficial effect on plant growth, both within greenhouses and, apparently, in nature. However the concomitant effects of climate destabilisation ie increased temperatures, increased and deeper droughts, increased deluges and floods and wild swings from one weather state to another will all, in the opinion of agricultural scientists, lead to food production crises. These will cause famine, population flight, refugee flows and, inevitably, war. There will be NO ‘explosion’ of ‘other creatures’ on the planet because over 60% of the populations of wild animals have died out in the last forty years, 90% of large pelagic fish have disappeared and the Holocaust of insects is reducing their populations by 80-90% in many, probably most, biospheres, already. Humanity is next for the cull, which I believe may be coldly deliberate.
It is even according to the IPCC impossible to model and predict the climate:
“In climate research and modeling, we should recognize that we are dealing with a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.
TAR 2001, p. 744, IPCC (IPCC=Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change)
This statement did not make it into the “Summary for Policy Makers”
Typed fom this website:
https://www.heikohessenkemper.de/index.php/umwelt-klima-ideologie?start=5
This one is considered right wing but the thinking left noticed the same thing too:
in German, the Video rund about 1:45 hours.
Energiewende am Ende: Der große Klimaschwindel – Robert Stein (Regentreff 2018)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ8dwPVLy94
You may not be able to accurately model the climate PRECISELY, ( ‘All models are wrong, but some are useful’, as they say)but you can predict future global climate patterns on the basis of energy flows. When you increase the energy in the Earth system, derived from solar radiation in the main, by increasing heat-trapping greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere, and by altering the planet’s albedo by consequently melting the Arctic ice-caps, the global climate must become more unstable. As we can see from REALITY. I very much fear that the denialists’ mad refusal to look reality in the face, ie the melting of nearly all (ie >90%)of montane glaciers, the melting of the northern permafrost, the increased melting of the Antarctic and Greenland ice-caps, the spread of droughts and megafires, the movements of plants, animals and diseases, and the extinctions of those who fail to find sanctuary, the increase in global average temperatures, the increase in heat sequestered in the oceans, etc, etc, etc, indicates the presence of closed minds, obdurate in the face of mountains of evidence, and easily manipulated by the most Evil cabal ever known-the capitalist enemies of Life on Earth.
Albania has hydroelectric centrals with an Installed Capacity of 1466 MW, and an average hydropower production of 5283 GWh. The Albanian Engineers, Technicians and workers took care for operation and maintenance for more than 15 years. After the “Regime Change”, based on concessionary contracts mysterious corporate “Privatized” everything, increased the price of electricity 10 fold, and the profit is stolen from Albanians. Poor Albanian couldn’t afford to pay, and many refused to pay creating a debt of $ 500 million. IMF intervene with a $500 million loan with interest, that paid the corporate, so the Albanian people has to pay back to IMF $500 million + Interest.
Actually most of Albanian has no heating or cooling because the only option is electricity, which is prohibitive.
Something similar happens to Greece too.
Privatization is looting a Nation by the corporate.
Incredibly important article on voltairenet.org
Here are a few paragraphs from the article.
Google Translate
“In recent months, the United States has managed to convince a quarter of the UN member states – including 19 Americans – not to recognize the outcome of the Venezuelan presidential election of May 2018. Therefore, they do not recognize nor the legitimacy of the second term of President Nicolas Maduro.
In an interview with the Sunday Telegraph, published on December 21, 2018, British Defense Minister Gavin Wiliamson says his country is negotiating the installation of a permanent military base in Guyana to resume the [imperial] policy of the Suez crisis. The same day, a Guyanese MP drops the government of his country by surprise and then takes refuge in Canada. The following day, ExxonMobil claims that a boat chartered by it to conduct an oil exploration in the disputed area between Guyana and Venezuela was driven out by the Venezuelan navy. This expedition was authorized by the outgoing government of Guyana, which administers the disputed area de facto. Immediately, the US State Department, then the Lima Group, denounced the risk that Venezuela poses to regional security. However, on January 9, 2019, President Nicolas Maduro reveals audio and video recordings attesting that ExxonMobil and the State Department deliberately misled to create a conflictual situation and push the Latin American states to make war between them. Members of the Lima Group admit manipulation except Paraguay and Canada.”
“Assuming that Juan Guaidó believes he is resolving the crisis and serving his country by proclaiming himself acting president, the opposite is true. Its action will provoke a situation that will be assimilated to a civil war. He or his successors will call for help from their Latin-American brothers. Brazil, Guyana and Colombia will deploy peace forces backed by Israel, the United Kingdom and the United States. The unrest will continue until entire cities are reduced to ruins. It does not matter whether the Venezuelan government is Bolivarian or liberal, whether it is anti or pro US. The goal is not to replace it, but to weaken the state for a long time. This process begins in Venezuela and will continue in other countries of the Caribbean Basin, starting with Nicaragua, until there is no longer any real political power in the whole region.
This situation is crystal clear for many Arabs, who have fallen into the same trap and have all, at one time or another, succumbed. It is not at the moment for Latin Americans.
Of course, it is still possible that the Venezuelans, despite their pride, become aware of the manipulation they are subject to, overcome their divisions, and save their country.
Thierry Meyssan
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It is intriguing that you are taking an interest in the impact of hidden or obscured sciences and technology on the political discourse of our day. Of course, no one denies that science and technology are fundamentally important but mostly they are referring to technologies evident and in use since 1950 or earlier.
Telephones, nuclear technology, medicines, jet propulsion, for example, are much improved over 1950 but still are the same line of development from long ago. The sciences as publicly proclaimed are essentially fixed in the same conception since about 1920. Proposals made that the basic conceptions established with, say, quantum mechanics, are fundamentally wrong are not accepted. Rather they are ignored, when possible, or derided and suppressed. As before in history all is known and only a few more decimal places need to be discovered.
But what if it is not so? A case can be made that 20th century scientific certainties have collapsed in their entirety but this dissent hardly appears in the political discussions of our day. While one can find all sorts of dissent in science on the internet at the level of this website or its enemies the people involved in that dissent, no matter how good their credentials, are generally assumed to wear tinfoil hats and are ignored.
I am inclined to believe that even you take HAARP technology seriously only because it has demonstrated multi-megabuck support from the US government. Yet the real future technology of importance cannot in the beginning ever be assumed to have such support and, political conditions being what they are, when it starts to get such support one must expect the support to be kept very quiet.
There are claims of technologies that can suppress nuclear reactions or rip up continents, or force Coronal Mass Ejections from the sun powerful enough to burn the earth to a crisp. Just tinfoil extravagance or is it real? Note that from the discovery of radiation by Henri Becquerel in 1896 to the atom bomb tests in 1945 is only 49 years. It has been 74 years since then. Has nothing fundamentally new occurred? Perhaps fundamental errors have been found and corrected which will change the view of science and its potential technologies?
I would suggest that current political realities are built on scientific opinion which is no longer correct. Nuclear weapons have been the bogeyman for the above 73 years. What if sometime in those years someone found a way to suppress the relevant nuclear reactions and could suppress nuclear explosions. The presumed world we have lived in for 73 years would no longer exist and its political assumptions would dissolve like mist before a warming sun if discovered.
There is not much discussion of serious science today. Fantasies like global warming fill newspaper pages. Real discussion is at a minimum. What there is takes place among the cognoscenti or the tin hats. The world is ripe for some very unpleasant surprises.
Weather modification as an instrument of war, either by the HAARP technology or some other better hidden is not to be discounted. I would suggest that you are on to something much bigger than drought in the Pampas.
This country has sweltered through a record hot summer, culminating (so far) with a record 46.6 degrees Celsius here, last week. Moreover the east of the continent is gripped by a savage drought, with rainfall at record lows (meanwhile in the far north record deluges show the effect of increased atmospheric water vapour)and river systems and wetlands drying up. Some ‘fantasy’.
@Mulga,
Off course this is not fantasy.
Not for a second do I want to underestimate the devastating effects this can have on agriculture, hence simply feeding a population, and worse.
The question is, is this ‘man-made’, evil use of HAARP, or simply bad luck? My guess would be the last one. That TPTB will use this following their dogma ‘never waste a good crisis’ is logical. The ‘insurgencies’ in Syria started also when food was scarce following a bad year. Yeah, civilians have unrest, send in the mercenaries.
Let’s not confuse ‘weather’ with ‘climate’. The first is mainly a result of the (yet) unpredictable curves of the jet stream, the latter mainly by sun activity.
Man-made emissions are real, but close to nothing compared to e.g. the amount of dust and CO2 that follows a volcanic eruption. An example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_eruption_of_Krakatoa . Temperatures worldwide dropped by a multitude of our recent ‘climate goals’.
Now, that is never discussed, but we focus on heat pumps, abolition of light bulbs and plastic bags. Why?
Because you cannot tax volcanoes. And additional taxing is what it all boils down to.
Cheers, Rob
The ‘global dimming’ that followed Krakatoa (and that was more marked after Tambora in 1815, let alone Toba 75,000 years ago)caused by the injection of sulphates into the stratosphere thereby increasing the planet’s albedo, is relatively short-lived ie years or a few decades. In fact the planet’s current warming has been reduced by the dimming caused by the emissions of particulate pollution from, mostly, East and South Asian industry and other global fossil fuel combustion. In contrast the residence time of CO2 in the atmosphere is measured in decades and centuries. Moreover in a normal year, without massive eruptions like Pinatubo, anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are now, typically, one hundred times or so greater than those of all the planet’s volcanoes taken together.
Hi Mulga.
I notice you didn’t provide any scientific evidence for your agw position.
Fair enough. After all there is virtually none – but I hope you and others may find this link helpful as it is 100% science based.
best wishes
http://www.weatheraction.com/
The near TOTAL consensus of ALL the Academies of Science and scientific societies of the planet and the work of tens of thousands of climate scientists over 200 years amount to ‘virtually none’ in terms of evidence? Am I reading you correctly?
Here’s an idea for you –
we need a giant nuclear plant that sucks in all the gas in the atmosphere over time and cleans out the carbon and other bad elements etc…and releases clean air. An atmosphere processor. It converts those elements into useable things.
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Toms, from the link you provided: “Late January EXTREME cold blasts and massive snowfall from wild Jet Stream and displaced polar vortex flow both sides of Atlantic, BI-Eu & Usa, superbly confirm WeatherAction climate forecasts ten years ahead and Long-Range forecasts detail 6 months and 45d / one month ahead.”
What can I say. Central US is experiencing a deadly and sweltering heat wave . Chicago recorded -46degC windchill factor last night.Most places are talking about 36-40degC wc. Somewhere down south -3degC (real temp). Damn, so bloody hot.
Lets go back to Europe. Southern Europe is experiencing unusual snow falls in places that have palm trees, etc.
BTW, sometime ago I was reading an article making fun of Gore, who contrary to what he is getting big bucks for, had his huge property lit up like a Christmas tree, paying big bucks for his electricity usage. Such a fraud.
The usual resort to Gore-bashing, as if that neutralises 200 years of science, near total scientific consensus and the weight of evidence. We just endured the hottest recorded January in Austfailian history, with the hottest recorded temperature (46.6 Celsius) in a major city, and others nudging 50 degrees in the countryside. The cold in North America is not much different from the average temperatures of fifty or sixty years ago, and has been explained by science as the result of climate destabilisation in the Arctic. But you don’t do science, do you.
Lots of interesting ideas and links, thanks for that!
Let me invite you to read Björn Lomborg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjørn_Lomborg . I have read his work ‘The skeptical environmentalist’. He debunks a lot of ‘slogans’ of the Green Khmer as BS and pseudo-science. He could do that while being an associate professor in statistics, and using only open sources.
The wiki article is quite polite concerning the vile attacks and even threats that he received afterwards.
I was suspicious years ago, that so short after Al Gore’s presentations the new regulations were flying around. It was not even discussed. In the same direction, you can ask any German household what happened with their energy bill after ‘Die Energiewende’: it roughly doubled. But hey, there is so much wind energy, and wind is for free, no? Things are far more difficult than they seem.
In this whole ‘climate’ struggle I suspect one big agenda in the background: To wipe out the middle class, by making everything more and more expensive.
Towards this interesting article (thanks, Peter) one overall question itches in the back of my mind.
If HAARP (or comparable) techniques can change weather patterns and the like, then why was this not used to divert tropical hurricanes hitting Texas and Florida? And divert them to, say, Venezuela?
The tropical hurricane hitting Texas had massive damage to the large oil and chemical industry there, if an industrial plant is submerged in several meters of rain water it is time to rebuild for loads of money, where do we think the (many hundreds, if not thousands of) pumps are located? Oops, there were some power lines as well. And we are not talking about *little* companies here, and quite some big shots as shareholders seeing their dividends pour away…
I don’t have the specific scientific background to have a sharp opinion on the possibilities of HAARP and the like, but this question puzzles me.
Cheers, Rob
Lomborg? It is to laugh! The paranoia is interesting. Have you ever considered that the tens of trillions of dollars in fossil fuel ‘assets’ that underpin the global capitalist system, the finance industry and US global petro-dollar hegemony, might have some influence on human affairs, and one VASTLY greater than that of the environmental movement. ‘Green Khmer’ is nauseating, too. Do you deny the sixth mass extinction and the current Holocaust of Life on earth, including even the insects, as well?
Climate change?
There has been no heat wave in recent decades to equal the heat wave that lasted for years, in the dirty thirties.
The temperature cumulative records of the ‘thirties have not been equaled since.
Simply wrong. You may be talking of the USA, where the 30s were indeed, hot, but globally there is NO doubt, ie none, nada, zilch, that the planet has warmed on average by one degree Celsius over the last 100 years, that the last five years have been the five hottest ever recorded, and that the oceans in particular are warming at an alarming rate, possibly the most rapid, by ten or more times, that we are aware of in the last few hundreds of millions of years.
The 30s dust bowl in the United States was cause by the prior destruction of native grasslands and forests, both for farming and cattle. The native grasses were sometimes 4 -5 feet high. There are a few small parks in the mid west with patches of native grasses introduced. Nobody knows and nobody cares. .
And there is also absolutely no doubt also, about the use of adjusted data!
The oceans are a particular problem because of the sampling problem. There is no agreement on that issue.
Wrong! The measurements of oceanic heat content, at various depths, are nowadays far more accurate thanks to advanced buoys and satellites. There is NO ‘agreement’ between denialists and scientists and never will be, but among oceanographers and real scientists there is no disagreement. You might as well say that there is no ‘agreement’ that smoking causes cancer, and you probably have done so.
The alleged agreement has no affects on the climate. We are not breaking records here in the US nor in Canada. The heat waves of the Thirties in north America have not been beat. It’s not close.
It is from oceanographers and real scientists that I read of the sampling problems, and no they don’t have general agreement. NOAA and NASA themselves say those things, about lack of agreement. Satellites only read the surfaces. The oceans are extremely difficult to measure and model. Public relations comments don’t make agreement. Below about thirty feet of depth, the oceans are not heating. Surface effects are too variable for extrapolation, they don’t last long. It’s actually even less than that, it’s just the top meter or two that shows variation. And yes the arctic ice is still there, they still need icebreakers, contrary to all predictions.
NOAA and NASA are not listening to you.
Basically it’s all a tempest in a teapot, as there is no way the big corporations will surrender political control. The big corporations are not listening to you, nor to me.
Until we get close to the heat waves of the thirties, I’m not impressed. & Icebreakers are still being used.
Icebreakers and old records. Facts.
A load of falsities, the old ‘Gish Gallop’ at full pace. Copy and paste? As for the claim, false, of course, that you are not breaking temperature records in the USA and Canada, that illustrates is a nice ‘Exceptionalist’ mind-set that only the USA counts in global climate destabilisation. In fact, in the rest of the planet, the increase in average temperatures and minimum and maximum temperatures, is much more marked than the USA. No man, or country, is an island, I’m afraid.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-09/russia-is-building-320-million-icebreakers-to-carve-new-arctic-routes
It’s so warm, the Russians are building new icebreakers! Didn’t read the memo…
You haven’t heard of the disappearance of Arctic summer sea ice and the proposal for a Northern Silk Road for merchant shipping? The ice-breakers will still be needed in winter, you know, when it gets cold, but in summer? Not so much.
Mulga,
The pictures may be six year old, but I would not expect dilymail to be “denial-ist” outfit:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/And-global-COOLING-Return-Arctic-ice-cap-grows-29-year.html
You don’t ‘expect’ the Daily Fail, to be ‘denialist’??!! Is that your idea of a joke?
If it is like that, the attack has not ended yet. Now it is the opposite of drought. The pampa is flooded with rain. In big parts of the pampa the amount of precipitation in the first 15 days of the year has exeeded the amount of anual rainfall. With the raining still contnuing. The pampa in Argentina is plain, so the excess of water does not leave. There are 2,4 million hectares of planted soybeans effected which would generate normally an income between 3 to 5 billion dollar.
All that happens while in the same time the soybean area from Brasil has been in hit ba a severe drought.
Clearly lifting the chance to sell US soybean.
If HAARP is doing all of this, Monsanto (now merged with Bayer) may not be very happy as they have large properties in Argentina and Brazil, besides their commercial activities selling GMos and RoundUp (that is, glyphosate, or Agent Orange)… Basically all soy, wheat and corn from Argentina and Brazil are GM and as such have received their generous spraying with Agent Orange as well. Cattle (beef) is ‘not organic’, and the ‘grass-fed’ label doesn’t mean much when the grass is also GM and sprayed with glyphosate.
What is really happening in the world is a blind, if not evil/determined war against nature, against life – there is enough evidence that the ecological disaster will wipe most of it from the planet in the next years.
Exactly. Glyphosate is one of the most Evil and omnicidal poisons ever inflicted on humanity by the capitalist psychopaths. It causes cancer (and the populations living near Roundup-soaked soy in Argentina are suffering plagues of neoplasia)and sterilises soils of the floral and faunal biota that enrich the soils. It even assails the gut biome that is one of the foundations of human health. The capitalist assault on Life on Earth is the final, irrefutable, evidence of the cancer system’s innate Evil.
Was this mountain landslide in Siberia caused by HAARP?
https://gizadeathstar.com/2019/01/landslide-in-siberia-russian-army-dispatched/
The video of the mountain is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4bCFHkDQD4&feature=youtu.be
There is no question that the military are trying to use / manipulate the weather by any means possible. I however, would direct ones attention to the dust bowl of the 1930’s as the primary example of strangeness. To read and study the events of the years 1934 – 1939 and one is or should be struck immediately by the rather odd events. The dust storms came in three waves beginning in 1934, 1936 and finally 1939. What is especially astounding though is the year 1935, which witnessed seven and I repeat 7 dust storms in the first four months alone culminating on Black Friday, April 14, Easter of all things, of a storm that was the most severe of any. A dust storm which occurred just after 12 noon and this after an especially beautiful day but turned the sky pitch black and was over 200 hundred miles long. Do you see a pattern? This is utterly astounding and for all of the many comments what a shock to find not one reference to the bible which has a huge amount to teach. In fact, every single book of the Old Testament mentions climate change as a direct and deliberate act of Almighty God. I mean really….
See, the storm of the Lord will burst out in wrath, a whirlwind swirling down on the heads of the wicked. The anger of the Lord will not turn back until he fully accomplishes the purposes of his heart. In days to come you will understand it clearly. (Jeremiah 23:19–20)
“The Lord is slow to anger but great in power; the Lord will not leave the guilty unpunished. His way is in the whirlwind and the storm, and clouds are the dust of his feet.” {Nahum 1:3}
The Lord will cause people to hear his majestic voice and will make them see his arm coming down with raging anger and consuming fire, with cloudburst, thunderstorm and hail. (Isaiah 30:30)
Rain will come in torrents, and I will send hailstones hurtling down, and violent winds will burst forth. Therefore, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: In my wrath I will unleash a violent wind, and in my anger hailstones and torrents of rain will fall with destructive fury. {Ezekiel 13:11-13}
God’s voice thunders in marvellous ways; he does great things beyond our understanding… He brings the clouds to punish people, or to water his earth and show his love. (Job 37:5–13,)
As a military weapon of choice by the way God in fact tells us He uses the weather. In theology or at least for those in the know its referred to as Divine Communication.
Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or seen the storehouses of the hail, which I reserve for times of trouble, for days of war and battle? Job 38:22
Imagine this was quoted by Job as coming directly from God Himself!!!!! Therefore do you think one should be paying attention?
Now back to that dust bowl. Does anyone who study those events not see a pattern? Here’s a quote for you!
Is this just a coincidence? Not by a long shot but why? If this was truly an act of God, why? Well, politically speaking there was a tremendous amount going on, just these words alone by Louis T. McFadden tells us something was amiss in the halls of power:
“We have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks…Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers… The Federal Reserve Banks are the agents of the foreign central banks…In that dark crew of financial pirates, there are those who would cut a man’s throat to get a dollar out of his pocket.” Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power, but the truth is the Fed has usurped the government. It controls everything here {in Congress} and controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks governments at will…When the Fed was passed, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by international bankers, and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure.” Louis T. McFadden June 10, 1932
Something diabolical was at work and not just in America but throughout the entire world. Consider WW1 was a mere decade over and Europe was now on the verge of yet another and this due by the way to that despicable Treaty of Versailles signed by the Allied powers with a Colonel Edward House being one of its main architects? John Maynard Keynes was especially horrified by the treaty because of the enormous amount of reparations that it imposed on Germany. Reparations that they could in no way pay. He predicted that there would be social upheaval even commenting:
‘Men will not always die quietly…In their distress [they] may overturn the remnants of organization and submerge civilization itself.’ “But who can say …in what direction men will seek to escape their misfortunes.”
The dirty thirties were exactly that and one can go on and on about the history of that time period and morality or lack of it but if this Dust Bowl doesn’t ultimately bring clarity to what the bible teaches!!! Weather events always follows mankind’s actions of a sinful nature this the bible again clearly spells out:
“The word of the Lord came to me, Son of man, if a country sins against me by being unfaithful and I stretch out my hand against it to cut off its food supply and send famine upon it and kill its men and their animals, even if these three men Noah, Daniel and Job were in it, they could save only themselves by their righteousness, declares the Sovereign Lord.” {Ezekiel 14: 12-14}
The United States Air Force’s efforts to weaponize the weather will probably lead to a very dangerous confrontation with the Creator. We need to pay some serious attention to a book like Job and its questions. Job in fact is the premier meteorologist of the entire bible.
Lastly don’t think for a minute this scripture of the bible isn’t going to be fulfilled totally and completely in its entirety shortly for all to see:
See, the storm of the Lord will burst out in wrath, a whirlwind swirling down on the heads of the wicked. The anger of the Lord will not turn back until he fully accomplishes the purposes of his heart. In days to come you will understand it clearly. (Jeremiah 23:19–20)
Why though has it taken nearly 2400 years? Jeremiah was from the 6th Century BC and here we are on the verge now of Mathew 24 and 25 surely.
Wow, by the way I love that quote by the first commentator Miguel Burgueño
The article summarizes very well MONTHS of personal search on the subject. And I’m still looking for VERIFIABLE arguments against.
See Gerry Fox book Climate Change the Work of God for the verifiable. He has Jeremiah 23 totally and completely summed up. No need to look anywhere else other than the bible itself of course.
Everything is written, everything.
The truth about Chernobyl and HAARP
Werner Altnickel, former Greenpeace activist, two-time winner of the Oldenburg Environmental Pro-
tection Award and holder of the German Solar Prize in 1997, is probably Germany’s best-known
enlightener on chemtrails. He reports to Uwe Behnken about his research and the discovery that the
Chernobyl reactors were used for the Star Wars program of the Soviets. In the end, a total of 16 nu-
clear power plants were to be built to operate a gigantic, 150-meter-high microwave antenna array 35 kilometers in diameter – comparable to the US Haarp facility in Alaska. According to a 1998 NDR / Arte
film, the Chernobyl reactor blew up after a 20-second earthquake after strange bluish light effects were observed. The true GAU reasons were declared secret, and a connection with the beam weapon should
by no means come to the public. Pictures of the antenna systems were censored. As early as the 200th anniversary of US Independence in 1976, the Soviets began using their scalar “Woodpecker” Interfero
meter transmitter to agitate the US electronically. (Ionosphere manipulation to influence the weather, etc.)
Videos in German – You can change the subtitles to English
1/4 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV947vD49yw
2/4 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QdMr8Da9SQ
3/4 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGF3Bh_4OjM
4/4 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-a7Eu5M1cQ
At dawn on April 26, 1986, the fourth reactor of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant ex-
ploded. A rainbow-colored embroidery flame shot 1,000 meters high in the Ukrainian sky.
Over the next eight months, 800,000 young soldiers, miners, firefighters and civilians from
across the Soviet Union engaged in a feverish battle over Chernobyl and against time.
On the basis of eyewitness accounts, including personal reminiscences of the former Pres-
ident of the Soviet Union Mikhail Gorbachov, the haunting images of Igor Kostin, the few
photographers on the scene, archive recordings, original documentations and latest re-
search results Chernobyl follows the events of that time and works for the long-term conse-
quences of misfortunes for people and the environment.
A gripping documentary by Thomas Johnson from the year 2007.
Chernobyl: All about the biggest nuclear disaster in the world – Video – German speaking
You can change the subtitles to English
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDiThP-JZCA
Discovery Channel – The Battle of Chernobyl (2006) – Video – English speaking
Serbian subtitles with Latin letters – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5GTvaW34O0
P.S.: the videos are identical
Nature’s Revenge: Wildlife in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone
Photos
https://sputniknews.com/photo/201902061072167971-chernobyl-wild-animals/
Quien aún dude de la geoingeniería es que es ciego,15 de marzo de 2019 la ONU hizo un summit en Africa,donde cayó el avión boeing lleno de pasajeros que xasualmente venían de votar en contra del plan suizo de elevar por 20 las emisiones de productos en la atmsósfera.
Es espantoso ver y oir a ignorantes que dicen que el servicio meteorologico aprueba los chemtrails como nubes normales…es broma???Es claro cuando un avión deja un conytrail y cuando deja un chemtrail.
EN esa espesa nube de polvos y productos quimicos como el bario,el plomo,el borio y el alumino trabajan para que flotando en la atmósfera ,transmitan las ondas electromagneticas del HAARP imperialista como las del sistema ruso llamado SURA,que es lo mismo que el HAARP.
Terremotos como el de la ciudad de Baam en Iran,el terremoto de Haití(comparte territorio en la isla con republica dominicana,)arruinando un lado de la isla pero dejando intacta la otra parte.
Enn España las lluvias son escasa porque a traves del HAARP y los chemtrails se fija el anticiclón en una zona y deja de llover y el sol está radiante,cuando no lo tapan con fumigaciones desde aviones….EL MUNDO ESTA DORMIDO
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Google-translate from The Mod:
“Anyone who still doubts geoengineering is blind, on March 15, 2019 the UN made a summit in Africa, where the boeing plane crashed full of passengers who were coming to vote against the Swiss plan to raise 20 emissions of products in the atmosphere.
It is awful to see and hear ignorant people who say that the meteorological service approves the chemtrails like normal clouds … is it a joke? It is clear when a plane leaves a conytrail and when it leaves a chemtrail.
In that thick cloud of dust and chemicals such as barium, lead, boron and aluminum work so that floating in the atmosphere, transmit the electromagnetic waves of the imperialist HAARP as the Russian system called SURA, which is the same as the HAARP.
Earthquakes such as the city of Baam in Iran, the earthquake in Haiti (shares territory on the island with the Dominican Republic), ruining one side of the island but leaving the other part intact.
Enn Spain the rains are scarce because through the HAARP and the chemtrails the anticyclone is set in an area and it stops raining and the sun is radiant, when they do not cover it with fumigations from airplanes … THE WORLD IS ASLEEP”