Source: На финишной прямой деиндустриализации: как Украина теряет промышленность
By Ivan Lizan
Translated by Eugene
Ukraine’s refusal to cooperate with Russia in the military, scientific and technical fields has already begun to bear fruit. Naturally, this Kiev’s policy forced the citizens of Ukraine to eat only one (poisonous) kind of “fruit”: unemployment, poverty and deindustrialization.
Thanks to the West and Kiev for this
The goal of this break in cooperation, initiated by the Western curators of Kiev – while talking heads in the government only announced Washington’s decision, wrapped in the slogan “Not a single spare part for the occupier!” – was actually the disruption of the state defense order of the Russian Federation.
“Geniuses” of the Ukrainian political thought expressed the intention to force Moscow’s capitulation by refusing to cooperate and to export components. For example, the Ukrainian political “giant” Yuri Lutsenko suggested to use the Yuzhmash plant as a means to blackmail Russia. The argument was truly “deadly”, but, as turned out, not for Russia: “… all Russian nuclear missiles can be serviced only by our Yuzhmash. Without this service, the whole world will sing la-la-la-la” [reference to the obscene ditty “Putin huilo la-la-la-la” popular among anti-Russian Ukrs] – Lutsenko repeated in mid-July last year.
However, the negative effect of breaking the bonds is almost always mutual and is not immediate. Because, all of a sudden, it turned out that the mastodon of Ukrainian engineering – the backbone of Ukrainian rocket-building – Yuzhmash found itself between life and death. Yet, Russian companies still keep working, for reasons still unclear to Kiev.
How the flagship of rocket-building dies
The plant had problems before. They were not critical, but accumulated from year to year.
Americans were first to refuse cooperation with Yuzhmash because of the exploded Anthares rocket. Formally, the Americans are going to work for about a year on finalizing the technical solution for their rocket, so Yuzhmash will be left without US orders during this time. In reality, if Washington decides to renew the cooperation, they will not find anyone to talk with, as by that time the company will be reduced to just a pile of equipment.
The final nail in the plant’s coffin was the refusal of the Russian Federation to procure launch vehicles Zenit; they will be replaced with [Russian made] Angara.
As of mid-October 2014, about fifty employees were leaving the company on a daily basis. And they were the most valuable workers that could not be replaced by anyone else. The situation was aggravated by endless waves of “mogilizations” [wordplay: mobilization/mogilization as “mogila” means “grave” in Russian] announced by Kiev in the framework of the civil war in the East.
The number of mobilized workers is not precisely known, but the more employees will lose their jobs, the more will be sent to the ranks of the Ukrainian army – thus not only enhancing the country’s defense, but also “creating new jobs.” Therefore, the damage to the personnel potential will increase in direct proportion to the duration of the war and the number of layoffs at the plant.
Death of the enterprise: Just the facts
One can learn about the state of the company from the interview of its former director Victor Shchyogol, but here we are only interested in the facts and consequences of the plant’s closure:
— over the past three years, the volume of production at the plant fell more than 4 times, and the volume of contracts with Russia decreased by 60 times, as calculated in hrivnya equivalent;
— the closure of the plant will result in the loss of about 50 000 jobs at Yuzhmash and associated enterprises;
— about 70% of the components for the launch vehicle Zenit was produced in cooperation with Russia;
— contracts with the Brazilians and maintaining working relationships with the US will allow to employ only about 10% of the plant’s personnel;
— cooperation with Russia terminated completely, resulting in the loss of more than 80% of the plant’s revenue;
— employees of the company have not received wages for over seven months;
— out of the total workforce of 7000, more than a thousand employees have left the company;
— even two years ago, orders from Ukraine amounted to the miniscule 10 million hryvnia (just over $1 million at the 2013 exchange rate), now there are no orders at all.
Who is next?
The next candidates for demise are Antonov ASTC [Aviation Science and Technology Complex] and other machine-building enterprises.
On January 30 the IMF mission arrived in Antonov ASTC. They acquainted themselves with the work of the enterprise and visited the laboratory of static tests, the engineering and piloting stand, the trainer AN-148, assembly shops for both experimental and serial productions, and also learned about promising projects.
It is unknown, what was the real purpose of the visit by IMF clerks, but it is doubtful that the sharks of the Western capital were interested in a speedy recovery and development of the enterprise. Most likely, it goes to its liquidation. Probably, the closure of a number of high-tech industries is one condition for the disbursement of IMF loans to Kiev.
Remarkably, the dying Yuzhmash and Antonov are connected by industrial cooperation – the chassis for the aircraft family AN are made in Dnepropetrovsk.
The situation is no better in railcar construction – in the first half of last year, they assembled only about 3,500 cars with a capacity of 38 thousand. The Kharkov plant Electrotyazhmash has lost $41 million due to the cancellation of orders from Russia for the supply of turbine generators, electric motors and mine-drilling equipment. The losses of Yuzhkabel amounted to $12.4 million.
Only Turboatom and “Motor Sich” managed to survive – so far.
Next in line – the death of metallurgy, which remains in a state of depression for several years already. The destruction or loss of the Avdeevka coke plant will force Kiev to switch to imported coking coal, while the transition of Mariupol under the authority of DPR [Donetsk People Republic] will lead to the loss of the major port for exporting rolled metal. With diminished metal production, the state budget will lose a large share of its foreign currency earnings.
In the framework of the war between Kiev and Dnepropetrovsk, the ferroalloys sector, which is controlled by Igor Kolomoisky, could potentially die as well. Ferroalloys plants have not been modernized, and this is an incredibly energy-intensive industry. So far, the only thing that saves the industry – is the supply of electricity from Russia and the unwillingness of Kiev to confront Kolomoisky.
Quite vague are the prospects of chemical and food industries, however, the situation is no better in other areas of the economy that are suffering from young reformers and “visiting warriers” from the Baltic states and the US.
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One can say with certainty that at the end of its civil war, the Ukraine will complete the process of de-industrialization, and what is left of it, will be able to grow only grains.
The existing objects of infrastructure are irrelevant to Kiev rulers, while the workers capable of servicing power plants and producing high-tech goods at miraculously survived factories will either die at the front, unable to avoid “mogilizations”, or travel outside the country to escape from poverty. It is safe to admit that the administrative staff are absolutely incompetent, which is confirmed by regular accidents at Ukrainian nuclear power plants, which only narrowly failed to repeat the Chernobyl disaster.
The financial default, which Kiev will have to declare, inevitably, will only hasten the death of the industry. Together with the production shut down, Kiev will get a reduction of foreign exchange earnings, a decline in budget revenues, and, therefore, an approaching collapse and tens of thousands of lost jobs – not because of some Moscow’s policy, but from Kiev’s own desire to kill itself to spite Russia.
Because each new closed plant will only bring closer the start of large-scale urban riots and increase the number of opponents of the bankrupt project “Ukraine”.
Given the results to-date, one would think NATO/EU is waging war on Ukraine. Russia can get along fine without Ukraine, but Ukraine cannot exist without Russia.
Nato/EU and their Kiev puppets are waging war not on Ukraine but on Ukrainians. Not only the eight million Russians in Ukraine that Yulia Tymoshenko wished to nuke, or the 50,000 Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel killed mainly by “friendly fire”, or the thousands of Donbas civilians murdered by neoNazis, but the many elderly who will die prematurely due to the stress of a collapsed economy, and the many who will not be born as economic failure drives a further downward spiral in the fertility rate.
Ukrainians have been driven to kill one another. The beneficiaries will be the oligarchs who will pick up the assets of the ruined middle class, while the Ukrainian nation state is absorbed into the institutions of global governance over which the globalist plutocrats have proprietary control.
Ha ha, well that makes you think a little bit, no ? :-)
Off course the goal has always been the same, as it was in WW 2: to destroy the Slavs. Ukraine is the biggest Slavic country in the world after Russia.
But this time they are doing it smarter way. Like in Yugoslavia.
So the Slavs don’t get it.
Prior to WW1, as documented by Fischer in his book about Germany’s Aims in that war, the Kaiser framed the war as existentialistic between Teutons and Slavs well before 1914, as did numerous members of his inner circle. Indeed, the Kaiser’s maneuverings look a lot like the Neocon’s. He deeply felt the British shared his view and would ally with him in the upcoming war. But doctrine demanded France be dealt with first, which lost any chance of the UK becoming Germany’s ally against Russia.
Longterm, Russia doesn’t need the EU either, while the EU must have Russia as a partner. Hesse advised Europe to look East 100 years ago; maybe it will before it’s too late.
“existentialistic between Teutons and Slavs … deeply felt … doctrine demanded France be dealt with first … UK becoming Germany’s ally”
What a pile of mythological nonsense. You read the wrong book. Britain wanted to prevent further continental economic integration under German leadership (Bagdadbahn). Russia wanted to panslavically push west. France wanted to reseize Alsatia.
The documents cited by Fischer exist; they are no mythos. I see you offer no citation to back your assertions.
So, everything is going as planned by the USA to destroy Ukraine and remove its economic use to Russia. IMF and other vultures circle assessing their choices. Pity about Crimea, but maybe that was a potential scenario built in?
Perhaps statues of Victoria Nuland, Pyatt et al are needed in Kiev?
Guess who is likely to get statue?
http://johnkingusa.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/13/sec-clinton-visits-statue-of-husband-in-kosovo/
Regards, Spiral
From the look of things Ukraine will implode far sooner than the US will.. These supremacist slaves really think they were doing Russia a favor? All the while sucking on Russia’s teat for survival, subsidizing on Russian gas and good will and wanted to back stab Russia to make a quick buck while joining the European markets to move cheap goods into Russia tax free to make a killing on the difference?
If you look at it, That’s what Ukrainians are pissed about, that they can suck Russia dry, that they cant make a killing on the transfer of cheap European goods into Russia bypassing WTO regulations or Russian customs regulations. And each time Russia stops one of these scams the voice gets shriller and louder.. As we can see now, Even if Russia had left E. Ukraine alone and nor provided any support, other than to just cut off Ukraine from its markets and stopped all the subsidizes, things would not be any different because this gang of politicians n Kiev are thieves looking for plunder.. Its money plain and simple and the thought that Russia says Nyet just drives them up a wall.. But things have not gotten bad just yet.. What will Ukraine export now? Their high tech is not cost effective in the European markets or even compatible with European systems. China would be very cautious about falling for the pay first scheme they pulled on it before so which other major market wants Ukrainian grain? The coal industry is inefficient and too costly.. The shale gas might just be a gimmick from the US with no real shale deposits since I never seen US companies run from a profitable opportunity..
What grain? :-)
Genrikh Yagoda couldn’t have done a better job.
Ethnic cleansing Ukraine of Ukrainians via de-industrialization, depression, and default.
Excellent!
The huddled masses can stand along the new border fences and beg for food from Russians.
Or, sell their body parts to Kolomoisky.
European solutions abound for the neo-nazi Banderastan.
They are not doing the border fences anymore, to save money. They will only dig a very big ditch.
These can be filled with water (or will fill themselves when the first good snowfall melts) then they can stock it with fish and everyone will have something to eat. If they can’t afford fishing rods, they can use the hand grenades everyone’s taken home from the war as a souvenir.
Not to kill your very humorous take, but when Ukies did a ditch, they usually are hiding their dead or their crimes.
They are busy creating their own famine soon. The ditch is very ominous.
GLASSWORKS:
There are 5 major container glass works in Ukraine. They make important containers – bottles for medicine (cough mixtures, lotions, poison substances), jars for food (baby food, jams, pickles), beverages (beer, soft drinks). A lot of soda bicarbonate is needed for making this glass. The soda used to come from the Crimea, which now they refuse to deal with. Other sources are further away and a lot more expensive to transport from. Crimea product came in tanker wagons straight into rail sidings at the glassworks. Other imports will have to be by ship, then by rail or road trucks.
If they get elsewhere, the price of these containers will go up, and so will the price of the products. If they don’t get, a lot of people are out of work, as the OTHER industries also close down. The items then have to be imported, which makes them even more expensive. Some western companies will make a profit. Some – plenty – local people will go without their beer (which may be good in the long run) o their medicine (which is bad right away) when they can’t afford the high prices, being out of work.
There are also 4 sheet glass works, which make things like window glass — a much needed product with all the reconstruction that needs to be done. Imported, this will cost double of the local product.
Reducing all these bulk deliveries of materials will reduce activity on the railroads. And of course, railroads jobs, as well as wagon and locomotive building/repairs.
The Soviet system starved people and made them queue everywhere for tiny supplies of consumer goods, in order to build up fantastic industrial capacity, with the aim of making the Soviet sphere self reliant. Ukraine benefited by getting more industry than any other Soviet satellite … partly because Ukraine was able to trade (machinery, materials and finished goods) with the West when the Soviet Union was under sanctions. Now the West is stealing that advantage away, because an impoverished Ukraine leaves more profit for them. A few factories will be bought (for next to nothing) and rebuilt to make something or other with reduced wage costs (as in, half of the already low wages of today) so the shares can be traded on the stock exchange casino.
‘scuse me, I gotta go be sick.
IMO, Ukraine will be partitioned out of existence like Poland, but it won’t return. I take no pleasure in that, but that’s what I see as its future.
Additional Ukraine industries in trouble include:
(1) Interpipe pipemaking business in Dniepropetrovsk which is planning to lay off at least 3,000 (20% of workforce) workers. Work slowdown is due to Naftogaz is cutting its procurement of pipes and Russia no longer purchasing pipes from Interpipe. Other nations are not interested in Interpipe products as they do not meet their quality standards. Some sales to the US due to connections to US politicians (Hillary Clinton, the Brookings Institution and the Peterson Institute for International Economics) that resulted in the US Dept. of Commerce cancelling import duties.
http://johnhelmer.net/?p=12793
(2) Car and truck manufacturing, except for military vehicles, has dropped about 90%. http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150225/1018727638.html#ixzz3SlD2bGfo
(3) Ukraine steel production has dropped about 30%, as of November 2014, in part due to the shutdown of Donbass facilities
http://www.unian.info/economics/1011915-ukraines-steel-production-drops-by-29.html
(4) Shutdown of coal fired electrical generating plants due to a lack of coal. Most of the coal fired plants plants are obsolete and need to be replaced or retrofitted with pollution control systems. Just the adding of pollution control systems will cost about 20 billion US$, or the proposed IMF loan to Ukraine!
http://www.energypost.eu/ukraines-coal-power-plants-need-planned-phase-ccs/
With the loss of production jobs come many more lost service jobs as explained in:
http://www.sovereignman.com/podcast/podcast-014-dulce-et-decorum-est-pro-patria-mori-14818/
Sensibly, they’d not close the power stations until they’ve made the better replacements for them. But they are planning to solve this by reducing usage. Oh LOOK! great reduction in pollution. isn’t it GREAT? Usage will be reduced by
* killing a lot of industries that use electricity
* pricing it out of reach of poor (eg unemployed) consumers
Then the closed station gets sold for less than scrap valued, new owner invests in plans to modernise it, this gets it vastly revalued, that gets it onto the share market lotto. If they ever actually modernise it. it WILL cost billions because they’ll bring unsuitable systems from the US and try to change them to fit. The Russian design-to-needs way they can add scrubbers for a few millions, konce the oligarch skimming is removed,
Not only are the coal fired plants not obsolete, there are heaps of Soviet built plants in India and the Middle East… all of which were designed to sue Donbass anthracite coal. Captive export market for at least another 20 years.
Apparently Interpipe bribes (contributions to politicians) have borne fruit as the Ukraine Gets $187M Loan From European Investment Bank To Upgrade Gas Pipelines to be done by Interpipe.
http://www.ibtimes.com/ukraine-gets-187m-loan-european-investment-bank-upgrade-gas-pipelines-1731175
In other news China has just loaned Ukraine 3.6 billion for pipeline upgrades and coal fired thermoelectric power generation plants. About 60% of the loan will be in the form of Chinese equipment.
http://www.mnogovbloge.com/?p=10532&lang=en
Looks like the bones of Ukraine will be picked over in international courts!
‘and what is left of it, will be able to grow only grains…’
And Monsanto or Dupont GM seeds:
Monsanto and Ukraine
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/22/70838/
Kind of like a modern Morgenthau plan … Playing games with millions of human lives.
I am hoping and praying anti-GMO neighbours Hungary and Russia would take legal action to stop them, on the grounds that it would drift across the borders and contaminate their own fields.
Dear The Saker,
So very very sad. But it is what the EU/US wanted all along. I hope a lot of the experts went to Russia to work – at least there their skills would be wanted and of use. Only death or unemployment awaits otherwise.
Rgds,
Veritas
Here is an excerpt from an interesting article carried today in Pravda.ru. In an interview with the prime minister of the breakaway Carpathian republic of Ruthenia Pyotr Getsko the following was said :
“It is clear that the truce will be thwarted very soon. There are prerequisites that have already been recognized officially that Kiev is no longer the center of all investment in Ukraine. According to statistic reports, in the second half of 2014 the main flow of investment has moved to three regions of western Ukraine – Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk and Ternopil regions. Therefore, statements from Klimkin and company do not mean anything. I think that they have already received an order, so they are wimping out Ukraine.
“Slowly but surely, Kiev is losing its role by moving capitals to those regions. In the Galician regions, the volume of construction and investments has been growing lately. The rest of Ukraine pales in comparison at this point. This is their vector. They work for Galicia now in an attempt to hang all the debts on the rest of Ukraine. Therefore, the Kiev government that has never become a legitimate government does not negotiate. Those, who created Maidan 1 and Maidan 2 escape from Kiev. Families of the top administration of Ukraine escape from the country as well.
“Poland is preparing for the integration of its former land – three Galician regions. The bottom line is that the trend is already visible. The plan to shatter Russia has failed, and the USA may decide to continue applying some of Maidan-related technologies, as well as Ukrainian nationalists in other countries of Eastern Europe.
“All these battalions, including Aidar and Azov, may go to Europe after Ukraine. Those people know what bloodshed is, they have learned to kill, loot and rape. They will not stop in Lviv, so they will go further to Europe via Poland or through Hungary, Slovakia.
“There will be a war in Europe, rather than in Russia. As for Russia, Putin has made all preventive decisions necessary.”
The full article can be read here :
http://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/25-02-2015/129908-war_ukraine_europe-0/
In my previous post I forgot to add, western governments are fanning the flames of public hysteria over the possibility of Islamic fundamentalist jihadists gaining a foothold in the European continent and using this as excuse to enact ever more stringent laws depriving the ordinary citizen of his/her rights while conveniently forgetting to mention that their doppelganger is already alive and thriving in Europe in Ukraine.
While the jihadists hide their murderous sadism under a cloak of a twisted misinterpretation of Islam the Ukie Nazis hide theirs under a cloak of nationalism, but other than that there is no difference whatsoever between the two groups, and they also share the same sponsors.
The former Ukraine was made up of 25 Oblasts (states or provinces).Of those Donetsk was the most populous and richest in GDP.With two out of the largest cities in the country (most Oblasts only have one major city in them.And 4 out of 5 of the largest cities are in the pro-Russian Novorossian areas).The GDP of the 2 lost Eastern Oblasts made up 25% of all Ukraine’s GDP.When you add Crimea,the current loss is 28% of pre-coup GDP.The GDP of the other Eastern Oblast,Kharkov is 18% of Ukraine’s total.And the loss of Kharkov will not be that far away.If we look at what is happening there currently.What that says is that the 4 out of 25 Oblasts,the most Russian Oblasts in Ukraine.Made up 46% of the entire economy of Ukraine.Leaving the other 21 Oblasts with only 54% of Ukraine’s economy,in total.And once you count in the other Russian speaking Novorossian Oblasts.You find that the total of the 9 out of 25 Oblasts that are Russian or Russian speaking account for around 60%+ of the economy of the former Ukraine.Leaving the other 16 Oblasts with less than 40% of the economy.The Russian speaking Southeast has always said they were the engine of Ukraine’s economy.That they did the work,that allowed the country to function.While the Western Ukrainian nationalists,complained,and demonstrated,contributing little to the nation.The economic facts bare that out.
In the Soviet days,Ukraine was one of the leading republics in the Union.Better off than Russia industrially per capita.The nationalism, neo-nazis,and oligarchs,of the past 24 years destroyed that country.The country that survived,one of poverty,but at least existing,that Ukraine was in 2013.The West and their stooges killed off at maidan.
One thing is absolutely certain: poroshenko & yats are DESTROYING the Ukrainian economy; enemies within, on behalf of the USA, which can pick over any juicy enterprises left, and at a very reduced cost due to the fall of the currency. Asset stripping and destruction, from which the USA can simply walk away from, leaving potentially millions destitute. Truly, it is time to substitute the American eagle with a vulture.
Actually, the bald eagle is a surprisingly apt symbol for the United States. Closely related to vultures, bald eagles retain many vulture-like habits. They hunt (or rather, fish) for some of their food, but eat a good deal of carrion, some of which they steal from ospreys, who are far better adapted for actual predation. But for their size, they are apparently quite cowardly birds, often outmatched by the smaller raven and never daring to challenge the equivalent-sized golden eagle (I don’t know how they fare against sakers ;) ). And one source I was looking at just today claims they will hunt down actual vultures, force them to vomit, and eat the results. What a cutting metaphor for the imperialism that bullies local comprador elites into handing over the dough . . .
All in all, vultures or worse, but with better glam and PR. What better symbol could the United States have?
Ivan Lizan seems Basque, he looks like several guys around here…
Russia should just hang on to its seat and watch Europe implode. Europe is going to need to fix this mess and is falling apart at the seams.
Don’t think so, and my guess is that it is not Putin’s thinking either.
Of course, I do not know exactly what he has in mind for Europe, but , given his words at Valdai’s
conference and his actions and nonactions vs. Europe, it is likely that he is *not* interested in Europe’s implosion, and is ready to really cooperate with them to avoid implosion provided they show some integrity, courage and vision they lack so much.
Regards, Spiral
This economic collapse of Ukraine is the other component of Putin’s strategy.
You don’t have to invade Kiev. They implode their economy.
You don’t have to hold territory against neo-nazi forces outside Novorossiya. They will be cold, hungry and out of money with no work to do unless they work a deal with Russia.
Russia will be baking Ukraine’s daily bread, selling them electricity, coal and ultimately controlling their comeback over the next generation.
This is an economic war at the core. It always was for economic influence and partnership.
Now it will be beggar and master.
And the more war, the worse the conditions for Ukrainians.
I find this so incredibly sad. It can only be deliberate, else the IMF etc etc would be ringing warning bells for months now, rather than its muted response. And I wonder why, after the Holodomor – which is hardly mentioned in the West, or is deliberately silenced for you know who, so that they can bleat for another 100 yrs or more if they can, then WW2, and for nearly 25 years after independence, why the country is still un- or under-developed, when it appears that they have a quite well educated population, or at least not a below average intelligent one. Of course, widespread corruption, still not dealt with, just a different form, pervades, despite lustration.
If Ukraine had managed to get into the EU when Poland did, or before it, I wonder what kind of country Ukraine might now be? Or even if, instead of the USSR breaking up, it had become the USR: the United States of Russia.
“Holodomor” = Complete, utter hogwash. The West is saturated with this kind of boring, mendacious anti-Soviet horror stories already. Hence, launching the “Holodomor” screamfest in Western Europe wouldn’t make the slightest difference (the same goes for the Psheks’ howling, moaning, and groaning about Katyn).
Indeed, I cannot really blame Western imperialism for taking advantage of people beyond redemption and below contempt. The ongoing immiseration and sodomization of the Ukraine courtesy of the EU can take place precisely because of the targeted population’s very own “moral stature”. Proof: In 1918, the victorious Allied powers in WW1 entrusted the army of the defeated Kaiserreich to burn, starve, and slay Ukraine’s poor. That was the deliberate, man-made Ukrainian famine of the 20th century. But since a proud Ukro just can’t feel any hatred toward the upper echelons of German society, someone else has to be singled out as the villain — even in another decade, if need be. Angela Merkel, just like Adolf Hitler and Hermann von Eichhorn before her, understands this and takes action accordingly. In short: Bring total, utter mayhem to the Ukros, and let Putin take the blame.
Man, this is one nasty and shauvinist comment.
1, There is absolutely no need to vilify Soviet system (I mean especially the 1917-1953 period). It morally disqualified itself thoroughly. The more Russia distances itself from it, the better it does herself.
2, The denying the famines in Soviet Union is an utmost affront to the victims. While it’s undeniable that Ukrainian nationalist propaganda is perverted in in their blaming the famine on Russian nation, any apology for Kaganovich, Beria and the rest of the bolshevik beasts is despicable as well.
3, As a Slav, I am deeply saddened by the current tragic state of affairs. Frankly, Russia is wrong when it thinks it can do better in it’s Euroasian aspirations, abandoning the Panslavistic aspirations of 19-th century. Russia is in danger of becoming too dependent on China and the rest of the BRICS. While those nations might be much more rich and powerful than Poles, Ukrainians, Croats, Serbs, Slovenes, Bulgarians – still, Russia should understand that they (BRICS) are not of their own blood. That’s why I think that winning again the hearts and minds of western and southern Slavs is in the best interest of Russia.
4, Being Slovak (and hence western Slav) I remember Russians were generally understood to be a guarantors of peace and stability in eastern Europe. Despite the oddities of communist regime, the image of Russians was quite positive ones. And I think that this stability providing was reciprocal one – this positive image of Russians (as WWII liberators) in the minds of provided safety and stability for Russia as well.
Are you blind or should I call you just plain stupid? Its not an insult, I am just wondering how you come to your conclusions and based on what. You seem to be ranting on what should have happened instead of what happened. Projecting your dreams onto reality.
It is a similar psychological problem as being a codependent and abused wife syndrome.
Ukraine will become an agribusiness plantation for Cargill, ADM, Monsanto, IBP, and Deere. The Ukraine will again be the breadbasket of Eurasia. It is a cruel and heartless process which I witnessed over my lifetime in the American Heartland. A way of life of diversified agriculture and industry became agribusiness with one tenth the population in rural areas of Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, etc. The children of my generation moved to the West and East Coast industrial, financial, technology, and service centers, as will the children of the Ukraine. Many of the people will migrate to opportunity in Russia and Europe, as the fertile ground of the steppes becomes a vast plantation. The dog barked and the world moves on!
There may be some flies in that honey. From what I’ve read, big agribusiness is nt what it’s cracked up to be, long term. Problems with GMO crops falling in production, as well as the issues of people (in Europe especially) not wanting them. Problems with monocrop cultures ruining the land, resistance to pesticides by the pests (and increasing health problems for people), vulnerability to shifts in weather, and high dependence on expensive chemicals, including oil-base fertilizers.
These big companies may move in looking for big profits and end up with just destroying the land.
The point is that they’ll destroy the land as a byproduct of extracting huge profits from it. Like agribusiness everywhere, it takes decades for the blowback to start to occur. The locusts will hold through the last failing season, and then abandon the place. And if it becomes too problematic actually to farm that rich soil, they may just strip-mine it and export it elsewhere. Literal asset-stripping. Either way, the fact is they win.
And everything happening to Ukraine follows the same economic principles. The more destruction and chaos, the better for the carpet baggers. I am a huge supporter of Russia and Donbass, and will not suffer a bad word said against either. But even so, I have to note that the IMF is running the show in western Ukraine right now, and very successfully by its own amoral requirements.
ps..I do believe that even this will be overturned by Russia at some point, but Putin is busy describing a huge arc of strategy throughout the entire world right now, and it may be quite some time before we get the satisfaction of seeing his victorious boots on the ground of what’s left of that black soil. This is simply my personal notion however.
And within a period of time, that wonderful soil will become depleted, the food will be less nutritious – not to mention poisonous – and crop yields will diminish along the same downward graph that agribusiness everywhere, with its “green revolution” has demonstrated. And as you so well know, the lives of the indentured “farmers” will be pure hell.
I’m not big on Bill McKibben nowadays, but he made a great point once that you can grow more profits per acre with large-scale production and monocrops, but you can grow vastly more food per acre with smallholdings and diversity.
You wrote about “the transition of Mariupol under the authority of DPR”. Does that mean that you expect Mariupol to be taken over? Within what timeframe?
(I started following your blog only two days ago, so I apologize if this has already been covered. BTW I’m very glad to have found this blog and puzzled that I’ve only come across it now!)
Silly me, I failed to realize that this is a translation of an article somewhere else… I’m still curious about your point of view on the DPR and Mariupol, though ;)
There is one exception to the rule: the Luhansk Locomotive Works Luhanskteplovoz / Луганськтепловоз in Lugansk in the Lugansk People’s Republic. Their order books are full with some 500 locomotives a year to be delivered to the Russian State Railways. (No orders have ever been coming from Ukraine.)
Production was stopped in the summer for two or maybe three months because of the war and lack of electricity. After the ceasefire work was (supposedly) resumed at full capacity with all but a few hundred of the 8,000 employees.
I have been following their news here. Apparently everything has not gone by plan. In January 2015 the company only produced 10 locomotives The financial result for last year was “positive”. More from the same news item:
On the positive side, war damage seems to have been repaired.
P.S. ̣- You guessed it. The company is owned by Russian ZAO “Transmashholding”.
Problem here seems to be lack of a shipping port.
More specifically, lack of MARIUPOL, The steel works much of the sheet metal comes from is there, too. Of course that is not working well now, because they need coking coal….which is from Zaporzhye region but the connecting railways have been blown up or stopped because of fighting elsewhere.
Steelworks also use a lot of electricity, which Ukraine is not exactly oversupplied with right now.
The only reason US industries did well after WWII was – there was no other industrialised country left to compete. Now even a tiny city state of Singapore is far more industrialised (and efficient). So only way out – they have to go back and destroy industries of other countries.
The ZPC/NWO is running the Ukraine into the ground much the same way they did Afghanistan and Iraq. The people of the Ukraine need to be destitute for the ZPC/NWO plans. They are to be used up mostly as cannon fodder and to provide terrorists. This is why they are letting the Ukrainian economy, and it’s industry and infrastructure die. The ZPC/NWO doesn’t need the Ukraine as a “market” for profiteering, so they only provide the minimum support necessary to keep the colonial military and police state functions running. There is no intention for the Ukraine to remain a viable state.
The ZPC/NWO will attempt to carry out this policy against the Central Asian states bordering Russian and China. In order to weaken Russian and China, the ZPC/NWO either want to force he countries bordering them into total servitude, or destroy these countries, making them into failed states like Afghanistan and Iraq.
Ukraine is conscripting 800 protesting Volhynia coal miners who have not been paid for the last three months.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/ukraine-conscripts-800-protesting.html
“Ukraine’s coal powerplants are shutting down due to a shortage of coal, so the government is…closing coal mines in order to reduce government expenditures to meet IMF requirements, which in turn is forcing it to…buy imported coal which is now insanely expensive due to the drop in the value of hryvnya which…will force the government to actually spend more money than if it simply kept the mines open. Somebody nominate these people for a Nobel.”
It also appears that Ukraine is out of liquid assets as RT reports that Ukraine pays Gazprom $15mn for 24 hours worth of gas:
http://rt.com/business/236019-gazprom-naftogaz-russsia-gas/
The IMF loans are held up for a couple of weeks over failure of Ukraine the meet the IMF requirements. One of which was to free float the currency which is probably why it hit 39 to the US$ for a while (45 on the black market).
Does anyone know if the UAF soldiers are being paid and if the benefits to the wounded and survivors of the dead are being compensated for their loss?
But I am very certain that the whole Novorussia project had the objective to deindustrialize Ukraine, much the same way, as Russian oligarchs would destroy the Ukrainian oligarchs.
The likely original intentions were to use peaceful administrative methods to dismantle Ukrainian industries, rather than sustain the military action. The leaders of Novorussia always wanted to strip Ukraine of its industries and make “project Ukraine” non-viable. That I suspect is really why they do not want any serious negotiations with any government in Kyiv, regardless of whether it is so-called “fascist” or not. Eventually, the indigenous population of Ukraine would have to mostly emigrate. Eventually, former Ukraine would be resettled with loyal persons from the Russian Muscovite hinterland. That would probably, I suspect, be the Saker’s
and many other visitors’ here “dream come true”.
The bottom line is that it looks like the Novorussians do not want to build any sort of Ukrainian
sovereignty or state, and they essentially disrespect and outright hate all things Ukrainian
[the very name, the music, the art, the language, the literature, the whole “culture” generally],
and they want to obliterate all of it if they could.
I still think that the essence of conflict between Ukraine and Russia is over fundamentals of rulership and governing,—like North Korea versus South Korea, the conflict there is based on
incompatible social and political systems. Most Ukrainians still suspect and dread that Russia will sooner or later revert back to stalinist practice [as they refuse to be really de-stalinized], with resurrection of gulag death camps, deadly secret police beyond any law or restraint, and the rule by some supreme leader “god king” as the one and only free person in the realm, like another
Kim Jong Un who can slaughter even families of whoever displeases him at his own whim and will, if the sources out there be correct.—The USSR created a lot of fictitious constitutions, institutions and names, just to do good public relations for the world, because the world found many
European-style forms like councils, parliaments, elections, slogans about peace and freedom,
to be popular. In fact, it was basically like in the days of Ivan the Terrible,—only one free person who was master of life or death over all other persons who were deemed his personal property chattel slaves, no better than his kitchen utensils, maybe sometimes valued as even less.
I think, unfortunately, there are many people who do not care to be free but who prefer to be
slaves, as long as the master is someone or something very big, very strong, very ferocious
and casting a long shadow.—I think all that Putin & Co need to do is make a few telephone calls,
put that whole “voientorh” on hold, and the Novorussians might find that Ukrainian culture is not evil or “fascist” after all and they might start wanting to build up Ukraine instead of tearing it down,
and just help kick all the “rascals” out of that country.—But say there arose a true “people’s Ukraine” that would be non-capitalist, armed to the teeth with militant population 30,000,000 strong, declaring itself totally neutral, nonaligned, no masters of any kind over it, not Washington, not Brussels, not Berlin, not Moscow or anyone,—who would want to deal with it or trade with it
or rebuild it? Would Russia? I doubt it. I think the USA would still sooner accept such a Ukraine
than would Russia.
Ukrainians, Kurds and Jews [be they Hebrew or Khazar], these are the ethnic groups I can think of, whose very existence is objectionable to significant powers on this planet.
The conduct of the Ukros as well as the Paheks and the Balts shows convincingly what Stalin and the USSR that he led were up against: Plain, delusional offal too stupid to realise their own worthlessness. Had to be dealt with without compunction.
Well, at least one fanatical stalinist exterminator has been flushed out. And I bet this guy is not
Russian… By the way, who are the “Paheks”? To whom does this obvious racist hate name refer?
Probably Poles.
Najszczersze życzenia wszystkiego najlepszego, a szczególnie szczęścia wszystkim pokojowo usposobionym Słowianom! Pszek ;)
more insane anonymous drivel.
“But I am very certain that the whole Novorussia project had the objective to deindustrialize Ukraine”
Haha, now that’s a shall we say “interesting” proposition indeed. Would have made more sense perhaps if Novorussia were the backward, rural part of Ukroland and Galicia the industrial heartland under siege. As matters stand, however, the Nazi junta keeps destroying the industrial infrastructure in Novorussia, to the delight of the Galician Heimat. Indeed, the Galicians are very proud of their own backwardness, which readily translates into a burning hatred of anything reeking of a modern, functioning society. Hence, if Galicia is the true Ukraine then, yes, hatred is the only sane reaction against the latter. It is in Galicia that we find the mass base for wanton deindustrialization of the Ukraine.
Ad regards the other garbage you provided above, it’s just Western supremacist cant learned by rote.
What I meant is that Novorussia, that industrial region, was likely intended to be administratively stripped away from the rest of Ukraine, leaving the industries of Novorussia intact but passing under Russian oligarchal control,—and the rest of “backward” Ukraine would then be left a nonviable, failed state, so that its “backward” population would be forced to emigrate, wherever they could. Now I suppose that this might generate a bit of negative feelings on the part of the “backward” Galicians [or Halychans, if you want to be more correct in the name], or should they be happy about such a development?
—As far as comments about the Holodomor [the punitive extermination famine] against the rural Ukrainian-speaking population of eastern Ukraine, the Stalin regime needed grain by which to pay for the heavy factory machinery [the machines to make other machines] which was not invented from scratch but had to be purchased, for the industrialization of Russia. In the early 1930’s Stalin undertook the industrialization of Russia by purchasing the heavy factory machines [no doubt did not build them all from scratch] from certain financial interests, a certain cartel in the West.
Note this excerpt from E.H. Carr’s book:— “In December 1921 a group of industrialist and financiers of allied countries (although not the United States) met in Paris, and proposed the establishment of an ‘international corporation’ for the reconstruction of Europe. It was understood that large-scale investment in Soviet Russia would be one of the major functions of the corporation, since the exploitation of the Russian resources was now recognized as a condition of European recovery” (E. H. Carr, The Bolshevik Revolution 1917-1923, vol.3, p. 356, Penguin Books)
The payment was to be in grain, the only commodity that Russia had to offer. Therefore, the government in Moscow confiscated grain, specifically targeting Ukrainian farmers, and arranged [with complicity of the “international corporation” as well] for the huge famine that surely looks like a serious attempt at genocide against Ukrainians, especially since the famine was also accompanied by a pogrom and butchery of all Ukrainian cultural leaders and activists, including the destruction of Mykola Skrypnyk, one of the older original Bolsheviks who sought to reverse the results of decades of Russification in Ukraine, under the old tsarist regime.
That is the same pattern of what I understand the Turks did to the Armenians, they murdered the Armenian educated and cultural leaders, and simultaneously murdered Armenian commoners by mass forced marches and deportations. But the Turks deny that this was any attempted genocide of Armenians. And the Russians deny that there was any attempted genocide of Ukrainians. Germans and others deny that there was any attempted genocide of the Jews. The accused perpetrators always deny,—chilling thoughts, perhaps because they want to reserve the right to make the attempt at some time again.—All too many political leaders tend to be either so-called “emotionless” psychopaths, or else white-hot emotionalistic enraged mass-murdering fanatics.
—By the way, another great documentable crime of “warleader genius” Stalin was that very shortly prior to the German invasion of the USSR, Stalin ordered the execution of many if not most of his most experienced, most professional and effective military officers, thus leaving the Red Army effectively leaderless when the German invasion struck. I can only draw some likely conclusions about why any leader would do such a weird thing. It must have been because Stalin needed to be always the unquestioned “best” among all others, and could not stand the idea that in a war, some experienced professional military officer [like Marshal Tukhachevsky for instance] might steal the supreme credit from Stalin. So in order to gratify his own needs for his own ambition as the supreme leader [the “vozhd”] Stalin destroyed the leadership of his own army.
Due to the terms of the Treaty of Rapallo in 1922, there was a period of sharing of military technology with the Germans, and the seasoned officers of the Red Army had reason to know the doctrines and weapons of the German Army and could well counteract the Germans. Had the Red Army possessed the leadership of these seasoned and professional officers, it would have likely stopped the Germans in their tracks and maybe even launched a “blitzkrieg in reverse” several years prior to what was eventually done.
—The whole terrible invasion and its vast losses of lives and property would have likely never happened.—The Socialist Republic of Ukraine was a party to this Treaty of Rapallo according to my sources. Had crazy bloodthirsty Stalin NOT butchered all those capable men, Ukraine would have likely been saved from the invasion and all the loss of millions of lives in the war. But then, Stalin was notoriously NOT in the business of saving human lives but in the business of sacrificing human lives.