by Ramin Mazaheri
Many in the West are finally starting to come around to the reality that their mainstream “left” party is actually quite right-wing.
What’s taking longer for Westerners to realize is: the left flank of their mainstream “left” party is actually not left-wing at all.
Starting with the United States: What real impact has Bernie Sanders had? As predicted – none.
Sanders’ preferred candidate for Democratic National Committee Chair did not win. The Democratic Party has not moved their policies to the left at all. They’ve embraced Russophobia – an effective distraction from the Democratic Party’s misdeeds/incompetence/betrayal/true nature, but which is inherently reactionary.
Sanders himself has moved to the right because he immediately fell in line with supporting the Deep State and demonizing Russia, recently asking why Trump, “…has nothing but nice things to say about Mr. Putin?”
Ugh…the worry over saying “nice things” exemplifies the timidity of the West’s center-leftists. Buncha nursery school teachers, I guess. Ending stereotypical discourse was revolutionary in the 1970s, but today such talk translates into sanctimonious hot air and no real action.
Because what else but saying “nice things” is the true legacy of Sanders? He claimed to want to take on the establishment, but when actually presented with a real chance he immediately deferred to Hillary, and the rest is history.
And now Benoit Hamon, the Socialist Party candidate in France’s presidential election, is walking the exact same path to irrelevance: Instead of boldly taking on a system he also claims to oppose in many respects, he is toeing a mainstream line which the French disapprove of just as much as Americans currently disapprove of the Democratic Party.
This column will not compare the politics of the two politicians: that’s been done before and they are both mediocre, anyway. Of course, both are not true leftists who oppose imperialism, the military-industrial complex, major economic redistribution or support the international fight against capitalism – they are leaders in Western mainstream parties, after all.
What is important is that Hamon still has less than 3 weeks to learn from Sanders’ failure.
Maybe Hamon was born at night, but was it last night?
France’s Socialist Party couldn’t illegally rig the election, as Democratic leadership did against Sanders, so they are simply defecting from Hamon.
Manuel Valls, Hollande’s longtime prime minister, announced that he will back center-right candidate Emmanuel Macron instead.
This is blatantly undemocratic: Valls lost the party primary on January 29 in a resounding 59%-41% fashion to Hamon, and he was obligated to respect the democratic decision of 2 million Socialist Party voters to support Hamon. He even pledged to do so, but anyone following French politics knows that Valls has proven to be anti-democratic time and again over the past 5 years.
At that time Valls made an interesting off-hand remark: He said he may have to “sit out an election cycle”. I was assumed he meant that he would have to accept that he had covered himself in disgrace as Hollande’s austerity strongman. True justice would be for him to sit out 3 or 4 cycles, at least, because austerity kills. More on Valls later.
I have written that Hamon, however, is “a rare Socialist Party politician who might actually have a soul,” and he seemed genuinely surprised at Valls’ betrayal.
Hamon needs to learn something here from Valls, and that is that you can either be loyal to your own political future, or you can be loyal to the idea of political change on behalf of the mases. For certain, only one choice makes you worthy of wielding power.
Sanders was either phony or gutless – is Hamon?
If Sanders truly had any guts, or any desire to truly change politics in the United States, he would have at least accepted the Green Party’s offer to run atop their presidential ballot.
Even if Sanders lost, he would have surely garnered the 5% of the popular vote necessary for the Greens to be recognized as an official national party. The means the Greens would have qualified for federal campaign funding for 2020, it would have ended the undemocratic ballot obstacles they face in so many states and it would also have established the Green Party as a true political force. America’s most-popular politician would have headed the first real third-party in the US in a century.
Instead, Sanders proved to be nothing but a middling, “man of the party”- loyal to the Democratic party elite and not ideals. This is even though the party personally betrayed him. That’s pathetic, but Sanders seems content.
After all, he is now back in his comfortable role: a rarely effective Senator from one of the smallest states. It proved to be the “Sanders safety valve”, and nothing more, as anyone paying attention should have predicted.
If Hamon truly has any guts, or any desire to truly change politics in France, he will immediately throw his support behind the most popular candidate of the left – Jean-Luc Melenchon. Combined they account for 25% of all voters, just 1% from not advancing/winning the first round and then enjoying an easy 2nd round victory versus the National Front’s Marine Le Pen.
I must digress: Perhaps the key fact in France’s election for everyone to know is that 40% of all voters still don’t know who they are voting for. This is probably because it’s been all corruption scandals, no policy discussion and just two debates. What it definitely means that every poll is inherently suspect because it excludes nearly half the electorate.
So don’t blame the pollsters, whatever transpires – blame the system. Or be like the Americans: blame the pollsters and Russia, and not the system (or even the Democratic Party.)
This uncertainty is why I can fairly speculate that a combined Left Coalition would be able to win the presidency by capitalizing on the widespread sense of a dream deferred: the 2012 betrayal of Francois Hollande to stop austerity, Brussels and the dictatorship of high finance. I promise you that optimism was extremely high back then – France was going to lead the fight against Germany (again) and their ineffective, neo-imperialist austerity.
For those disappointed, Hollande was another textbook lesson that a mainstream Western party is no revolutionary party, much as “Sandernistas” (a disgrace to the true leftists of Nicaragua) are currently learning. Hamon can break that pattern, however.
Hamon, you are not the one. Now join the club & get in line
But Hamon keeps telling Jean-Luc Melenchon to get in line behind him, when it should be vice-versa. Hamon did it again after Valls withdrew his support, and of course Melenchon refused.
Hamon is totally mistaken – his poll numbers are at 10% not because of Hamon himself, but because there are so many diehard Socialist Party supporters who will tick the Socialist Party box whoever their candidate is.
Melenchon, however, is at 15% due to the widespread belief in his vision of a 6th Republic, his excellent platform, his sterling debate performances and the fact that he is the only one of the 5 principal candidates whose party is scandal-free.
Perhaps Hamon is guilty of avarice, ambition and pride: Maybe he just really wants to be president?
If so, he has definitely made the wrong wager. He is down to 5th place and is hemorrhaging Socialist Party support. 53% of France even wants him to pull out of the race.
Can’t Hamon settle for a top cabinet post in return for throwing his support behind Melenchon? Isn’t Prime Minister powerful enough to satisfy his ambition? It would be a big step up from his being a junior minister in Hollande’s cabinet, and if a Left Coalition wins Hamon, 49, is positioned for scads of future success.
I don’t think Sanders truly wanted to president – he obviously rejected the responsibility when offered. What’s certain is that Sanders has no idea of what revolution is: “Revolution is sensing the historic moment,” according to Fidel Castro. While Sanders can brag about being the most popular politician in the US, he is also in a powerless opposition party and can generate no real changes for the common good…so, nice job Bern.
Hamon, however, still has a chance to make his mark in history on behalf of the common good.
And what good is it for him to remain loyal to a Socialist Party which hasn’t stayed loyal to him? Doesn’t he realize they are simply jockeying for their own re-election in June, and to be a part of Macron’s new party.
And that’s a big key: Macron has no party
His “En Marche” party was launched barely 1 year ago, so Macron has no real base of support, no history with the voting public and no party cadres who have any idea what to do because Macron himself has been purposefully vague on his platform.
And that’s why Valls backed Macron: Valls is positioning himself to remain in power. Socialist leaders are defecting because they know that Macron is going to have to rely on them not just to staff his cabinet, but to govern parliament in a coalition – Macron has no parliamentarians!
Macron will also court Francois Fillon’s conservatives for his pro-austerity coalition, but Macron will be Hollande, Jr.: a fake leftist hiding pure capitalism. Macron’s economic policy has been proven to be simply a continuation of Hollande’s – 60 billion euros in budget cuts instead of Hollande’s 50 billion euros.
Few politicians are as openly power-hungry as Valls, so his rapaciousness and lack of integrity should surprise nobody. The previous 5 years shows that the current Socialist Party leadership – who are actual people with actual human qualities, don’t abstract them – are loyal only to themselves and their own ambition because they horrifically backtracked on their campaign promises.
In a true democracy they should have been kicked out long ago for such a flagrant abuse of power. Adding mechanisms to increase the ability of citizens to recall such treacherous politicians was a prominent theme of the recent 2nd presidential debate for good reason.
Macon will be Hollande Redux, and history will blame Hamon if he doesn’t stop it, just as we can blame Sanders for not stopping Clinton, and thus not stopping Trump as well.
Being a fake leftist comes with a huge hidden price to pay! That’s why I advise going full left….
It is not too late for Hamon to do the right thing
Sanders failed to push out Hillary, as the Democratic Party rank-and-file wanted but not the elite.
Hamon has to come to his senses and realize that he needs to force the Socialist Party to either back Melenchon or split the Socialist Party for good.
Hamon has two options: Go down weakly in the first round in 5th place, which would make him just a puppet who can add “Presidential Candidate” on his resume. Or he can truly fight for the soul of his party and let the chips fall where they may.
Hamon has one little thing on his side that Sanders did not, due to the likely vote-rigging and certainly the foul play by the DNC leadership: democratic legitimacy.
Hamon won the primary vote and that gives him the democratic right to make such a power play. Winning a large majority of 2 million voters gives him the right to make the decision on which route the Socialist Party should take. Party bigwigs and the mainstream media will oppose it, but Hamon could announce (finally) that he has decided to play 2nd fiddle to Melenchon in order to win the election.
Would it work, ideologically?
Well, Hamon is pro-EU and pro-imperialism, but even though the left is usually painted with the brush of “they are all one brand of crazy/immature children/phonies,” the reality is that the political left has a spectrum of its own. The “left” includes its own flanks of the far-right to the far-left. Hamon is a right-wing leftist, but the larger point is that all flanks of the left must be reconciled in times of crisis, and France is certainly in an austerity-produced crisis.
If Hamon refuses to do ride shotgun, then he should at least use his primary victory as a mandate to wrest control of the Socialist Party and boot out the careerists like Valls for “undemocratically” defecting, as Hamon has accurately accused.
There should be blood
The purging of so-called Socialists like Valls and many other fake leftists is simply justice after 5 years of betrayal.
People in France want blood from the Socialist Party, and they deserve it: Hollande is so unpopular that he couldn’t even run for re-election! When’s the last time that happened in the West? At least the never-elected Gerald Ford ran for re-election!
France’s Socialist Party needs to have a bloody period of internecine warfare if they ever want to regain credibility; if they ever want to make the term “socialism” not a dirty word associated with betrayal, lies, the state of emergency, 2,000+ arrests of anti-government protesters, the 49-3 constitutional clause which undemocratically bypassed parliament to ram through the right-wing labor code roll back known as the “Macron Law”, the support of Syrian militants, wars in Mali and the C.A.R. and a host of other crimes against socialism.
Heck, they need it just to survive: there are countless articles being pumped out about the “death” of the Socialist Party.
The sad fact is, just like in the US, the Socialist Party establishment is too powerful. Hamon was never a heavyweight who had their support – so Hamon will probably lose.
What’s sure is that Hamon has thus far deluded himself that he would be able to pull the party to the left: they left him, instead. He needs to wake up and fight.
If Hamon wins the purge…well, the Socialists are still a mainstream party, but at least they are less right-wing than before. This is good for the left.
If Hamon loses the purge…he can still make history and progress – where Sanders did not – by defecting to Melenchon’s party and giving it a boost of mainstream credibility.
Sanders failed with the Greens, will Hamon fail with the Communists?
They are the main group backing Melenchon, as France has far more real leftists than America, of course. You can call Green Party supporters leftists all you want, but ultimately they put dirt ahead of suffering people, LOL.
However, the left needs to put aside their usual Achilles heel – the narcissism of small differences – and join forces behind Melenchon, because then they have an excellent chance of putting a genuine left in office.
That is progress.
Or Hamon could just withdraw and get out of the way, preferably (but doubtfully) citing what I wrote: that Hollande was the ultimate patsy, so why should Hamon take a 2nd fall for austerity? Especially now that the Socialist Party has deserted him – pulling another Sanders would be just too pathetic….
Hamon may not win power, but he should quit while he’s still ahead – nobody thought he would even make this far. By making a bold choice with the democratic mandate he won, he could win more than just the long-lasting respect of France – he might even end austerity for all us 99%-ers in France. That should be the main goal for any selfless politician of France’s left.
But If Hamon continues on his current path he will wind up just like Bernie Sanders: failing everyone, achieving nothing and helping the right (or far-right) take even more power.
Ramin Mazaheri is the chief correspondent in Paris for Press TV and has lived in France since 2009. He has been a daily newspaper reporter in the US, and has reported from Cuba, Egypt, Tunisia, South Korea and elsewhere. His work has appeared in various journals, magazines and websites, as well as on radio and television.
I really wish the hyper-partisans of the The Saker community would just start replacing their usage of “Left” with “Good” and their usage of “Right” as evil. Sooooooooo much of the hyper-partisan idealist writing that appears here would make a lot more sense if it would just come out and admit its Marxist manicheanism openly. The terms “left” and “right” as used by this author are *completely meaningless*. When he says “left” he means, “all the things I personally love and approve of as good”, and when he says “Right” he means, “all the things I personally hate and despise as evil”
Uhhhh no…left and right have very clear, well-established meanings.
Unfortunately there is an ever greater tendency for pundits to focus on endless, increasingly esoteric detail in trying to define the “best/worst” (left/right, liberal/conservative, Marxist/capitalist) as embodied in the politicians/parties/platforms being presented to the voting public. The party/pre-selection process drives away/out anyone without a massive ego and/or the rabid competitiveness/greed that defines the “democratic” process.
The bottom line is nearly every person who would stand, and be successful in the party process, for election is unfit for the job.
So arguing over the propagandist labels these individual/collective socio/psychopaths attach to themselves is a fool’s errand. The lesser evil is still evil, as Trumpy/Obomber/Merkel/Hollande/Trudeau et. al. have amply confirmed.
The truism that whether a politician is correct or wrong on ideology/policy depends on whose “ox is being gored”.
That Sanders could call himself a “socialist”, and the US public accepted that definition, makes a joke of the term. Such labels as applied in politics now mean nothing. Where the candidates think it necessary to bomb is a truer reflection of their fitness to govern. Except when the candidates outright lie… like Trump and Trudeau did in their recent campaigns.
So expect French candidates to willfully lie, to claim labels and promise policies that conceal rather than reveal. All of them. All the time.
It doesn’t take numerous articles 1,000’s of words long to describe.
The whole “left-wing/right-wing” spectrum has long been utterly obsolete. It depends on the idea that politicians have principles (conservative or liberal) – and that hasn’t been the case for decades.
Since the names “conservative” and “liberal” have thus fallen into disuse, they have been “repurposed” to denote rival gangs of unprincipled rogues.
but I think that to get stuck on ‘left’ or ‘right’ in this article is to be doing simply that – getting stuck at some words –
the whole meaning of this article is about dishonesty within the ruling classes – Bernie Sanders fooled everyone –
But I wanted to say – that if you study Bernie Sanders’ face, and his smile – you can see that there is a really sleazy side to him….
Why are we still ***pretending*** that anyone who might win power in the West will be anything other than a ‘useful idiot’ or pure evil willing servant of the Deep State. Germany is currently run by EAST GERMANS, and despite their Soviet heritige, they serve the Empire of the West perfectly. Trump was surely the last dashing of this particular facilile hope.
Here’s a clue for the clueless. The Total Spectrum Surveillance that the R+D arm of the NSA and GCHQ, that we know as ‘Google’ introduced to the world has changed everything. Prior to Google, military surveillance projects under-delivered, went massively over budget, and were obsolete the moment they went ‘live’. Worse, they never ‘scaled’- which meant once deployed they could only be enlarged by starting all over again.
Google used (uses) commodity off-the-shelf hardware, and builds hardware and software systems that scale perfectly. Google installations (actually ***shadow*** Google facilities built using the same hardware and software systems ‘civilian’ Google deploys) collect all the world’s digital communications, text, image and spoken, translates and archives and indexes. The consequence for the Deep State is this:
1) Google provides a realtime snapshot of the current thoughts of the entire Human population- allowing propaganda campaigns to be constantly adjusted for maximum impact.
2) Google identifies blackmail information against all of us for later use if a person rises to a position of power and/or influence. If the Deep State wants you to act in a particular way, Google provides the ‘lever’ from your past.
3) Google identifies emerging movements and potential leadership figures long before they gain significant public awareness. This allows the early co-opting or neutralising of these societal factors.
The power Google systems give to the NSA and GCHQ is unthinkable, even with the Snowden revelations. ‘Democracy’, even our highly flawed ‘two party’ democracy of the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s, died with the rise of the new digital 1984. Serious candidates for significant office positions are all co-opted- ***all*** of them.
Look at how they did Trump. First they crucified him in the election campaign, but the people hated Clinton more so that didn’t pan out. Then they targeted his inner circle after his inaugaration to isolate him and then place their choice of Deep State people into his circle of inner advisors. They worked to make Trump the biggest villain of all time in the first three months, then offered him the chance to be everyone’s hero if only he betrayed every election promise, and attacked Russia by proxy. This is standard cult brainwashing methods.
I promise you, since bombing the government of syria, Trump won’t have been able to count how many people have patted him on the back in the last few hours. And many of these will be people who made a point of demonising him only a few weeks before. Trump’s ego will be in the clouds.
Now we have rubbish about the French ‘election’, and once again the usual suspects are trying to convince you that voting can make a difference. They expect to fool the fools who think the left/right paradigm in the West actually means something. The neo-liberals are the classic ‘left’, the neo-cons the classic ‘right, and since the rise of Blair both follow the exact same agenda and don’t even bother to hide it. Britain’s so-called ‘socialist’ ‘unelectable’ Labour Party fell over itself to praise Trump’s atrocity in Syria. But Michael Foot, the ***fake*** extreme socialist that headed Labour during Thatcher’s time, also praised every act of warmongering by the West.
In the West, if you vote, no matter who you vote for, you actually vote to approve the system that runs your nation. The ***only*** way to disapprove of the system is to refuse to vote. There is a very good reason that during the election cycle, the zionist scum that masquerade as ‘entertainers’ tell the sheeple that it is their ‘duty’ to vote.
The Deep State in the West runs ‘participation democracies’. If the people stop participating, the system breaks down and the demons lose control. And they cannot replace this system with classic non-democratic ones. The West is too advanced for that. So the demons ***love*** ‘democracy’ because this self-deluding system gives them more power than any other form of rule in Human History.
The French election, no matter how it goes, will deliver winners who support Trump absolutely, and oppose Russia absolutely.
Dear Mr Mazaheri … I don’t think Marine Le Pen will oppose Russia absolutely. Indeed, just like Jeremy Corbyn in the UK, who also comes under intense pressure to bend the knee, she may also just stick to her guns …
(1) Frappes de Trump en Syrie: “Une vive source d’étonnement”, pour Marine Le Pen … Marine Le Pen était l’invitée de Ruth Elkrief, ce vendredi sur BFMTV. La candidate Front national à la présidentielle 2017 a confié que les tirs de missiles réalisés par des navires américains sur une base aérienne syrienne, dans la nuit de jeudi à vendredi, ont été pour elle “une vive source d’étonnement (…) C’est un acte belliqueux et d’ingérence. Et surtout, il est effectué sans attendre l’ouverture de l’enquête internationale …”.
http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/video/frappes-de-trump-en-syrie-une-vive-source-d-etonnement-pour-marine-le-pen-932125.html
(2) Benoît Hamon, on the other hand, has indicted his undying loyalty to Israel, even to the point of lying to disown his own team mates whose views on Palestine might prove a source of embarrassment to his candidature … Quand Hamon ment pour draguer les électeurs sionistes … INFO PANAMZA. Le 2 avril, Benoît Hamon a affirmé sur Radio J que son co-équipier Alexis Bachelay avait «regretté» sa comparaison d’Israël avec le régime d’apartheid en Afrique du Sud. Problème : c’est faux.
http://www.panamza.com/070417-hamon-bachelay-pretoria/
Isn’t Google owned and controlled by Jews and a USA sanctioned monopoly?
What about Corbyn?
I like Corbyn – I think he’s really onto the conservation issues too.
Its a tough row to hoe for us, but we have to keep trying and failing because its like alcoholism – you keep falling off the wagon but then suddenly – years later – you look back and wonder how you actually did kicked it….our children need us to keep trying and failing and trying so that finally the world will be ours again, and not the criminals.
I’ve been following this blog (great analyses!) for a while, and as a French I have to say that Mr Mazaheri analyses are unfortunately very biaised and do not represent current situation in France. « It is not too late for Hamon to do the right thing » title just reflect a complete nonsense vis-à-vis recent history of betrayals of Socialist Party in France.
One should not take into account such analysis – and I’m not talking in a hungry way – but that is completely anachronistic.
One main misunderstanding of Mr Mazaheri is in believing that the multicultural model could work in France. Yet, there’s a strong and growing rejection of this model in France. That said, it could or already works in other countries (Russia for instance, which I know a bit, having seen a yakut woman throwing away a magazine whose cover had Mr Nemtsov party leader on it in a restaurant) but it just cannot be applied in France :)
(Cher Monsieur, si le coeur vous en dit et devinant que vous vivez en région parisienne, j’ai de bons arguemtns à faire valoir sur le fait que Mme Le Pen ne se couchera pas. Libre à vous, si vous acceptez de ne pas être comforter dans vos certitudes. Qui sont l’apanage des fous.)
The israel’s and their zionazism destroy everything. Hamon chose his side.
sondage en ligne: Asselineau first place.
http://candidat-2017.fr/
why don’t you ever talk about UPR?
why don’t you ever quote this men who is the real next french président?
he says this on TV; every other candidat is for UE or an other UE (this mean for UE, because it’s impossible to change it, needs double unanimity).
he’s totally ban from medias since 10 years ago he create his party, alone.
now he’s got the 4th or 5th bigger party in France and his message can reach French people, so, he wins 2 or 300 more people in his party EVERY DAY.
time is short , yes, but french people are fed up with croocked politicians, and despite the massive support from medias for Le Pen, Macron, Mélanchon, Asselineau, still suffer major média black out.
why don’t you ever mention this possibility, never spoke about the only credible président France can have?
he want to go out of UE via art 50
he wants to go out of NATO with art 13
he want to return to the de Gaulle policy (friend with anyone, able to fight with anyone)
restore UN power
back to international law.
…
and in this internet poll, he’s in first place with 42% for first turn (poll with 14k voters)
I understand why mainstream médias never spoke about him (him president, people with judicial affairs could not pretend to be elected, he want France back to French hands, without being racist or extreme right.
he’s a verry serious candidat and if we lived in a real free country (where electoral and média laws where followed, he will be president without a doubt.
but it’s not just you.
RT, for exemple, don’t quote him about US attack on Syria, but he was in french TV saying that this is TOTALLY ILLEGAL
he’s a real support of international law
why did he not exist here?
yes more info needed here on Asselineau
National Front has a program that could be described as socialistic and anti-globalist.
Exit from EU and Eurozone, protectionist trade policies, control of capital, nationalisation of Banking and the strategic industrial sectors, promotion of the welfare state, protection of local workforce by reducing foreign workers .
In a way, National Front has replaced the French Socialist Party & Communist party as the party that represents the interests of the working class French people. But the media will never support this view as they like to label NF as “fascist-racist”.
The “Socialists” are not socialist any more. They are neoliberal and they have no difference to the so called conservatives. It is the same all around the Western countries (such as in Greece which the “Radical leftist” Syriza party implements brutal austerity neoliberal measures). The mainstream parties (conservative and “socialist”) have embraced globalism and neoliberalism. It makes no difference which party is on power. The western type parliamentary system has degenerated to a neoliberal dictatorship and the people have no influence in politics no matter who they voted for in elections.
The integration of countries into globalist mechanisms (such as EU, EUROZONE, IMF, WTO etc) has eroded their sovereignty. The various nation-states have degenerated into markets for Multinational corporations.
In order to change course, a break from the globalist institutions is necessary. Le pen is right when she supports a French exit from EU-EUROZONE. Otherwise, it is impossible to change economic policy.
It is untrue. FN exit from EU and Eurozone? where have you read this? Asselineau tell everybody since years he will give them 6 bottle champagne if you can show him such a paper (not a quote from a second hand, but written in electoral paper, official one.) .I tried and failed, but if you have such a paper, go take the champagne and let us know :)
The historical rôle for FN is to tain every idea of soveraignty with racial hate speech. Mitterand did it, telling médias to focus on FN. politics game.
destroy nation-state is a great job, it takes time
both Lepen are european MP, since years. good salary, what result?
the new Lepen plan is to begin negociation (after 2018 german or italian election) then, if it’s not good, she will ask for referendum (but we don’t know the question). so, let’s hope we’ll be in 2019, pearaps… until then we will be ruled under nato rules and probably in war against russia, who cares.
Asselineau use art 50 the verry first day of the nomination (the second is for NATO exit). it will take 2 years max négociation (probabli less, because we pay a lot and can put them under preasure.
Le pen is a fake, a right Tsipras, like Mélanchon is a left one (french europe or plan B ???)
for being just, I liked them both a while ago (le pen for being always slapped in média, but always in médias :) , Mélanchon for not being Dalaï-lama fan (left guy can’t tolerate théocracy… ) .
but just look at what they all says about syria bombing..
in french, here are the 21 FN versions about UE and euro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwvnNJO6RBo
vive la France
Reply to Bob de France : “Le pen is a fake, a right Tsipras, like Mélanchon is a left one (french europe or plan B ???)” [https://thesaker.is/bernie-hamon-too-late-for-another-center-left-letdown-in-the-west/#comment-341625]
You might well be proved correct on this point and also on this point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwvnNJO6RBo which, nonetheless looks like propaganda for Asselineau.
Ils sont tous et toutes en quelque sorte des marchands de rêves.
However Marine is unequivocal in her reaction [1] to the air strikes on Syria, even if there are conflicting views on what this latest move from Washington really signifies and how events might play out (The Saker vs Thierry Meyssan for example).
Si je trouve la version Thierry Meyssan [2] assez ‘optimiste’, il faut attendre que les choses se décantent avant de formuler une opinion en béton, me semble-t-il …
Personally I don’t trust Trump and loose cannon Erdogan only complicates matters
[1] Frappes de Trump en Syrie: “Une vive source d’étonnement”, pour Marine Le Pen … Marine Le Pen était l’invitée de Ruth Elkrief, ce vendredi sur BFMTV. La candidate Front national à la présidentielle 2017 a confié que les tirs de missiles réalisés par des navires américains sur une base aérienne syrienne, dans la nuit de jeudi à vendredi, ont été pour elle “une vive source d’étonnement (…) C’est un acte belliqueux et d’ingérence. Et surtout, il est effectué sans attendre l’ouverture de l’enquête internationale …”.
[2] In the French edition of his new book [available here : http://www.kontrekulture.com/produit/sous-nos-yeux-du-11-septembre-donald-trump /// http://www.voltairenet.org/article195690.html%5D there are several passages which have been ‘blacked out’ by his publisher for legal reasons. One very conspicuously expurgates the name of Roland Dumas [still alive] – but not Jacques Vergès [now deceased] with regards a sum of 4 million euros paid to them as barristers, an advanced payment from the Jamahiriya arabe libyenne for work which was never completed. The same Roland Dumas who blows the whistle on the MI6 plot to overthrow Bashar Al-Assad …
it’s funny to be hear about Asselineau propaganda, i always though propaganda was linked to power in place, not a single guy explaining what the contract every otherone says great means, and this totally banned from main stream médias ^^
we speack about facts.
une vive source d’étonnement (…) C’est un acte belliqueux et d’ingérence. Et surtout, il est effectué sans attendre l’ouverture de l’enquête internationale
she use to be lawyer, this is not unequivocal, there is no condamnation, she’s just stuned and he did bad thing.
but let’s say ok, let’s forget the civil side for the military one
here in France we have to choose: empire or nation and we have to make it now.
there is 11 possibility, 10 for staying in Nato and UE (directly or through an “other europa” witch mean nothing because an other europa is impossible), one leaving UE, NATO
do you really think there will be an other opportunity for french people to recover their freedom and so cancel this incomming WWIII?
we are not nothing
we own our nucléar weapons.
it may be a disaster or the end of this crazyness, no less
le pen means NATO, Asselineau means France back in play in a multipolar world
who is the ennemy? who is the system ennemy?
Again, they have made what they could for hiding Asselineau, they have blacklisted him untill the verry end, they have changed electoral laws but it wasn’t enough, the power of a light in darkness.
of course we will have our part of terrorist attacs, our colour revolutions, our “impur blood” on the floor, but we have to be free, to use our UNSC for the francophony (that’s the plan) , to be a world peace keeper, according to UN and international laws. this is our historical duty. this is Asselineau’s proposal
otherwise what?
we speack about the choice for french président which is legally able to take every powers if needed (art 16 french constitution) and who is curently general in chief and chef of diplomatie.
how can it be lepen with a multiethnic France? since century? she never had more than 14% enlisted voters during all elections since 30 years, despite a massiv médiacover (always against lepen familly, but this is the fact: always, so sometimes in a way chocking french sensibility, so they become some kind of victim and we feel compassion. that’s the game). it will not be her, it will be her challenger, ideally the other médiacandidat, Macron (or everyone else against her, this doesn’t matters, only laws matters and laws says it’s not in french hands)
For messian, he surprised me and the saker/messian disputatio is a good thing. at least there is some hope, but it’s tiny.
but if we want a multipolar world, how can we not being interrested about the fate of a nucléar power?
a verry strange week
next month it can be worse (if not Asselineau, art 121 TFUE so GOPE in action, more poverty and social distress in France, for military task, ask washington, it will never be our problem anymore )
or better (France back in game in a multipolar world, a France around international laws, saying no to Empire’s order from the inside… and many trouble in the way^^).
this will be historical, in a way or another.
hope it will be sunny
I don’t think Le pen has any chance of getting elected.
But even if she was elected, I doubt she will decide to withdraw France from EU , NATO and Eurozone.
If Le pen withdraws France only from eurozone, then this is not a true recovery of French sovereignty. There are Eastern European states inside EU that have maintained their currency but still they have to follow all these EU directives and laws.
We cannot trust any politician these days. Maybe Le pen will be a sell out too.
Like Trump who also said so much bullshit to get elected but he is the same shit as the previous presidents. The media seem to have demonised Trump for no reason. He is the same crap like Hillary. The only difference is that he told what the working class people wanted to hear and managed to get elected.
Reply to bob de France /bernie-hamon-too-late-for-another-center-left-letdown-in-the-west/#comment-341731
And to xcv /bernie-hamon-too-late-for-another-center-left-letdown-in-the-west/#comment-341937
First time I heard the word “propaganda” had a limited liability clause.
Marine Le Pen, like Alain Soral, ain’t everyone’s cup of tea, In fact in the opinion of Le Bureau national de l’UPR, E&R just ain’t kosher enough :
http://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/E-R-et-UPR-pas-le-meme-combat-pour-haut-fonctionnaire-Asselineau-11888.html
But E&R do at least give credit, where credit is due :
http://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Francois-Asselineau-demasque-un-agent-de-Goldman-Sachs-9303.html
Yes indeed, maybe Marine Le Pen will turn out to be just another clone of Uncle Donald.
But I’m afraid and saddened to say that UPR and Mr Asselineau haven’t got a snowball’s chance in Hell of getting elected. . So what’s his rôle ?
Moreover, I can probably answer my own question, by repeating what I said earlier : “Ils sont tous et toutes en quelque sorte des marchands de rêves”. Since perhaps, they’ve all been already nobbled by the Anglo-Zionists and the Freemasons or, if not, already have sufficient skeletons in their cupboards for them to fall prey to blackmail from MI6, CIA, DST etc. There’s always the Mossad honey trap, as the sayanims seem to have replaced the RG :
Les conséquences de la disparition des renseignements généraux Par Brigitte Henri 07/04/2017 http://www.stratpol.com/consequences-disparition-rg.
But then, possibly, we can pick and choose regarding “les prises de position de chacun” rather than making blanket assertions.
Take Stéphane Blét for instance. He was purportedly close to Pierre Bergé before his ‘road to Damascus’ moment came. Thus his little book on Freemasons is worth a gander :
http://www.kontrekulture.com/produit/franc-maconnerie-l-effroyable-verite
There’s absolutely nothing to be gained from all this pettyminded quarrelling … Except maybe when Tang here /bernie-hamon-too-late-for-another-center-left-letdown-in-the-west/#comment-341280 points out that :
“Mr Mazaheri analyses are unfortunately very biaised and do not represent current situation in France …”.
But fails to point out the facile cognitive vacuity of Mr Mazaheri’s articles which are neither instructive nor pleasing to read. [In my humble opinion]. But then, I believe, he’s a professional journalist, and that’s what professional journalists are supposed to do. Provide copy. Occupy le terrain. Mesmerize readers and help maintain the intellectual status quo.
On the other hand his poker faced prose might be just an illusion … The truth being that what he writes is all “tongue in cheek”.
Either way we can’t tell whether his support for Benoît Hamon is sincere or not as that man is just another shill for the CRIF …
Off topic, I don’t think Marine spends a lot of time in front of the mirror.
But all the same as an individual she has the makings of a French woman … And her gouaille matches her panache … . I’d much rather have a conversation with her than with Cmdr. Andria Slough
Not that such a statement will make me any friends in high places …
PS More recommended literature for French readers with a mind of their own :
http://www.kontrekulture.com/produit/neuro-pirates-reflexions-sur-l-ingenierie-sociale by Lucien Cerise (2016)
http://www.kontrekulture.com/produit/du-yahvisme-au-sionisme by Laurent Guyénot (2017)
Asselineau is a wise choice and have many of the same views as Le Pen, Dupont-Aignan and Melenchon . However, I believe you are being a little hard on Marine Le Pen. Her pledge is to get out of NATO and hold a referendum on leaving the EU, a position she supports and would resign if it did not pass. Like Asselineau, she calls for borders and also seeks to accept to offer of the Grand Mufti of Cairo to identify and remove radical Salafist religious leaders.
You may enjoy this interview of Monseigneur le comte de Paris, Henri d’Orléans: http://www.tvlibertes.com/2017/04/10/16504/henri-d-orleans-comte-paris-france
The analogy he makes to the American Indian view of the land should resonate among true French.
I fear that Macron might win because middle aged French women think he is a hot powerful man. The older women, like those I know in France, do not like change and will generally support Macron because they support a stable state. Often women without men (single, divorces or widowed) marry the state!
On the other hand, Macron was generally attacked in the second debate by everyone except Fillon and Hamon, the latter expects to be Macron’s PM.
Message for Monsieur Mazaheri and reply to Krollchem : /bernie-hamon-too-late-for-another-center-left-letdown-in-the-west/#comment-342686 and any other French speakers with a mind of their own.
Some lucid analysis from Alain Soral who considers that Hamon rhymes with charogne (signifying dead meat or putrefying carcass). And this was recorded apparently just before more than half of Uncle Donald’s cruise missiles were ‘mysteriously’ diverted fron their target. The president of Egalité et Réconciliation is in top form :
“Hamon c’est la charogne socialiste, qui pue la mort, c’est le socialiste traitre absolu, qui tapine pour l’Europe, pour l’atlantisme, contre la Russie, il tapine pour tout ce qu’incarne Macron …”
“Hamon is the piece of socialist carrion, stinking of death, the total socialist traitor, who prostitutes himself for Europe, for Atlanticism, against Russia, who plays the whore for all that Macron incarnates …”
http://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Soral-vite-Episode-9-Le-mondialisme-c-est-la-guerre-45047.html
Also ‘off topic’ but a sobering report of primordial interest ‘Le malaise chinois’ from Damien Viguier and Alain Soral with Chinese subtiles.
http://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Damien-Viguier-et-Alain-Soral-Le-malaise-chinois-45078.html
This follows the murder or manslaughter in Paris of a Chinese father of four – shot dead on his front doorstep – a bullet in the heart – put down like a dog – after plain clothes police, or people identified as such, had broke down his front door. The predicable massive riots which ensued from France’s Asian community indicate what appears to be a deliberate attempt by the French authorities to humiliate further the Chinese community to create the kind of sinophobia in France and Francophobia in China required to accompany Washington’s aggressive ‘pivot to Asia’ ……
Latest poll has Melenchon all the way up to 19%!
He is now tied with Fillon. Macron and Le Pen are at 23%.
No way that Macron “gains voters in the booth” – i.e. voters make a last-second switch to him – but Macron and Le Pen could.
Hamon down to 8.5% Give it up Hamon!!!!!!!! Somebody send him my op-ed, LOL!
Oops, I meant that Melenchon and Le Pen should profit from undecided voters.
Macron will probably lose voters…who realize he is a terrible candidate!
It appears that Melenchon is a real threat given the recent attacks by Hollande:
http://www.bvoltaire.fr/actu/presidentielle-f-hollande-sinquiete-de-la-percee-de-jl-melenchon-le-monde/
Trump’s Syrian attack based on the Al Qaeda false flag propaganda team combined with Marcon’s support for the attack should really scare the 40%+ of undecided French voters. This should lead to a Le Pen vs Melenchon second round which ultimately spells the end of the EU and weakens NATO
I suppose the French people own Trump for laying out the stakes. Hope it doesn’t lead to nuclear war/nuclear winter.
In relation to the current stakes of France’s presidential election : continuing threads developed by bob de France, xcv, Krollchem, myself and another message to a strangely unresponsive Monsieur Mazaheri who persists in turning a blind eye to significant, possibly groundbreaking events in France (Cf. supra) and a deaf ear to those drawing attention to the significance of the ‘elephant in the room of French political life’ namely : the rôle of the Zionist judéosphere in muzzling meaningful dissent to the talmudic messianism which led the people of five continents to WWI, WWII and has led us into the impasse of WWIII with maybe a no exit strategy.
The latest from France : while a plucky Marine Le Pen has reiterated her attachment to a Gaullist sense of national honour and dignity, an abject pair, Asselineau and Melenchon, have successively just performed their ritual curtsy and bout of forelock tugging with respect to the dictates of political correctness.
Vél’ d’Hiv’ : Asselineau et Mélenchon se couchent totalement 12 avril 2017 La repentance est un dogme http://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Vel-d-Hiv-Asselineau-et-Melenchon-se-couchent-totalement-45119.html.
The UPR leader has even expressed his enthusiasm for the iniquitous, one way steet philosophy behind la Loi Gayssot-Fabius (Loi n° 90-615 du 13 juillet 1990) transforming the Shoah into a national religion and criticism of anything Jewish into the crime of blasphemy ie un délit d’opinion (thought crime) punishable in law. Recall what Gilad has call daily to remind us about Jewish power being the power to silence criticism of Jewish power.
Jewish Power-The power to silence criticism of Jewish Power May 31, 2016 / Gilad Atzmom
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2016/5/31/jewish-power-the-power-to-silence-criticism-of-jewish-power.
Remember what a former French president is on record as saying about the perpetual need for ‘French repentance’ : “C’est l’entretien de la haine et ce n’est pas la haine qui doit gouverner la France”.
François Mitterrand et les excuses de la France à propos de Vichy (1994) Uploaded on May 27, 2010 Extrait du documentaire de Jean-Pierre Elkabbach “François Mitterrand, conversation avec un Président” (1994) au cours duquel François Mitterrand donne son point de vue quant à d’éventuelles excuses au nom de la France à propos de la période de Vichy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owFF0K9-jcs.
Regarding blasphemy, perpetrated by Gentiles under the Seven Laws of Noah, this is a crime punishable by decapitation. If you think I’m kidding just check out US Public Law 102-14 and the full implications of the enactment of this federal statute here : The Noachide Laws and The Chabad-Lubavitcher Movement https://www.fisheaters.com/jc2.html. Extract : “Chabad sponsors huge telethons where the likes of Neil Diamond, Adam Sandler, Elliot Gould, Jon Voight, Regis Philbin, Howie Mandel, etc., show up to lend support”. I’ve written detailed analysis of this very subject which the Saker is adamantly refusing to publish.
I hope I am wrong. But I suspect the latter remark will possibly lead to my excommunication from the Saker Community. Further recommended reading for people with a mind of their own : The Controversy of Zion https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:The_Controversy_of_Zion.pdf.
Update for Monsieur Mazaheri : Occupied France 12 April 2017 :
‘Heated exchange’ between Israel and le Front National over Marine Le Pen’s refusal to kowtow to the dictates of la communauté lumière regarding le Vel’ d’Hiv.
Passe d’armes entre le FN et Israël concernant les propos de Marine Le Pen sur le Vel’ d’Hiv 10 avr. 2017 – Avec AFP https://francais.rt.com/france/36695-israel-condamne-propos-marine-pen-vel-hiv-fn-defend-position-gaulienne.
On the subject of repentance, if we limit the question of ‘victimhood’ to France, 300,000 Algerian civilans perished during the Algerian War. Many tens of thousands of Madagacans died horrible deaths during the 1947 Malagasy Uprising. None of their bereaved family members ever got a sou in the same way that the Jewish holocaust industry has been able to milk both France and Germany for millions of shekels.
While we’re on the subject of foreign interference in national presidential elections, republican senator Richard Burr, of the US Senate Intelligence Committee is sticking his evangelical nose into other people’s affairs, accusing the Russians of meddling in French politics …
Un sénateur américain prétend que les Russes sont «activement impliqués dans l’élection française» 30 mars 2017- Avec AFP https://francais.rt.com/international/35989-senateur-americain-pretend-que-russes-election-francaise.
This should be made known in France: German finance minister Schäuble declares his support for Macron:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/wolfgang-schaeuble-im-spiegel-gespraech-ich-wuerde-emmanuel-macron-waehlen-a-1142956.html
Can’t think of a better support for the other candidates.