According to Vzgliad quoting TASS, these are some of the figures of participation: On average over 30%. The lowest was in the Zakarpatia Oblast: 12.20%; the highest in the Zaporozhie Oblast 36.75%.
Then, somehow, the Ukies managed to get 14.65% Donetsk and 13.07% in Lugansk.
And then this figure: in Odessa 13.22%.
Uh?! Does that mean that there were fewer people voting in Odessa then in Donetsk or Lugansk regions?! If that is true – what does this tell us about what is happening in Odessa?
Can somebody confirm these participation figures from other sources?
The Saker
Only 30%? I was expecting massive turnout. 30% is less then a US midterm election:)
BTW, on a different note regarding possible attack by Kiev forces now: I read somewhere 65% of Ukie military hardware was destroyed in Sept. How could they even manage to attack now? They’d be crushed again I think
WASHINGTON: In the decades after World War II, the CIA and other United States agencies employed at least a thousand Nazis as Cold War spies and informants and, as recently as the 1990s, concealed the government’s ties to some still living in America, newly disclosed records and interviews show.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/in-cold-war-u-s-spy-agencies-used-1-000-nazis-612319
Once Nazi, today Natoist
We are reading partial results. Here is another but still partial source.
http://ua.golos.ua/politika/14_10_26_tsik_prodoljaet_schitat_izbirateley_yavka__uje_bolee_50
These are the official results from yesterday at 13:00.
http://www.irshava-news.com/NewsOpen/id_news_40922
Final results:
http://transkarpatia.net/transcarpathia/politic/38939-v-ukrayin-naynizhcha-yavka-na-vibori-za-vsyu-storyu.html
This was just posted on Novorossia News Agency.
In Velikonovoselkovsk district of Donetsk region, armed men kidnapped and held captive an election observer for the candidate Sergei Sazhko. The incident occurred at the polling station # 140095.The female, aged 50 years old, was kept in a car. From the building she was escorted by armed fighterswith insignia of battalion «Dnepr-1«, as recounted by eyewitnesses. At the same time, witnesses also reported that the armed men entered the building of the 59-th voting commission.
«Three people have entered, with machine guns. They demanded that within hours newmembers of the election commission should be elected. If they don’t get re-elected, the fighters promised to return and storm the building, the witnesses said.”
Anomalies in voting figures could indicate electoral rigging by such force or other means. Rigging an election would be childs play to the fascistic elements operating in Ukraine.
Think all results, while interesting, should be taken with a spoonful of salt!
These seem to be midday figures, i.e. the percentage of total voters so far. Other sites have posted an average of about 50%, low 30s in the East and 70% in Lviv. An average not much different from participation in the US presidential elections (58%).
What were the tyurnout figures for the Syrian and Crimea elections? 80%+?
The Western democratic tradition at work folks.
(Potential double post – apologies)
These seem to be midday figures, i.e. the percentage of total voters so far. Other sites have posted an average of about 50%, low 30s in the East and 70% in Lviv. An average not much different from participation in the US presidential elections (58%).
What were the tyurnout figures for the Syrian and Crimea elections? 80%+?
The Western democratic tradition at work folks.
39,5 % turn out in Odessa acording to official results. Has anybody the voter turn out for Mariupol for a non Ukrainian speaker please ? Thanks a lot, Andreas
What your article is quoting appears to be 1200 numbers.
These numbers are likely more accurate and state they are 8PM numbers
http://rbth.co.uk/news/2014/10/27/turnout_stands_at_5242_percent_in_198_electoral_districts_of_ukraine_40907.html
And this…
http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/231065.html
Putin recognize the result.Will send congratulations and will shake Porosegkos bloody hand .Bloondy from Russian blood .Better to be useful idiot than traitor.
Given the variable accuracy inherent in all Kiev reporting, I don’t think it’s worth delving too deeply into this…
@ Saker,
If Mrs ‘F***Europe’ Nuland can predict who’ll be Ukraine’s PM in 2014, back in November, 2013, it’s quite obvious how [most] things get elected around the globe.
Dear The Saker,
I just read that only roughly 52% of the public voted – says it all – and the ferret Yats is winning at the moment with Chocie boy close behind……The whole thing is a joke. They are already drafting a coalition agreement.
When I see something more definitive in regard to break down will post.
Rgds,
Veritas
The BBC (whatever that may be worth) is claiming that voter turnout was around 52%. They also say that there was wide variation between regions but do not go into any details. At the same time they say that “international monitors” have warned about the effects on the elections of violence in the East part of the country, again without any elaboration whatsoever.
If voting and election have any significance, why the last president was removed?
It was all predictable
Once Nazi, today Natoist
Mass distraction. So what? Nothing changes as the band plays on the deck of the sinking Titanic. Simply musical chairs. Icebergs foe and aft with no money for winter gas! What a joke!
Dear The Saker,
Just on RT:
Poroshenko: 21.45
Iatseniuk: 21.6
Self-Help: 11.1
Opposition Block: 9.82
Liashko: 7.38
Timoshenko: 5.69%
The whole election is a farce and insult to people of Ukraine (the sane ones). We must all remember Yats group includes right-wingers too…..
Rgds,
Veritas
Western Fascist
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And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name “Genrikh Yagoda,” the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU’s deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin’s collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the “bloodthirsty dwarf.”
Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book “Stalin: Court of the Red Star”, Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force, Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women.
Stalin’s close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the “first Stalinist” and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao’s terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.
Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We’ll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD’s special department and the organization’s chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
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Western Fascist
Wall graffitti
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B09EUjqCYAAYcqH.jpg
You wanted to enter the ES? (European Union in Russian)
You have ended up in the SS
Game Over, или как Путин отправил мировую политику на пенсию
http://cont.ws/post/60299
NY Times “confesses” to US government history of rehabilitating a thousand Nazis after world war 2 and using them as anti-Soviet Spies during the ensuing cold war
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/us/in-cold-war-us-spy-agencies-used-1000-nazis.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMediaHigh&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
–From Naijaa_Boy_of_Africa
Since there has not been a post on ISIS and Syria in some time, I place this here.
This is an interesting and readable analysis of the nature of IS/DAASH and of all jihadi groups in general. Very interesting.
There are NAF partisans in Nikolaev:
https://www.facebook.com/TruthfromUkraine/posts/1564894030400610
The BBC is quoting an overall turnout figure of 52%, which is extremely poor for any General Election.
Further, I am hearing via unconfirmed sources that the vote is high in the West but really minimal in the South and East (as saker also is reporting).
If this is true, then it does sound plausible, that this means that the vast majority in the East, no longer regard themselves as Ukrainian and will not recognise the elections or the results as representing them.
Is this the situation Putin has been waiting for before making his final move?
Anonymous said…@ 27 October, 2014 14:51
“http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/us/in-cold-war-us-spy-agencies-used-1000-nazis.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMediaHigh&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0”
Interesting timing but why not 1001, or 1067 or some other number?
Crosstalk show on the elections in Ukraine, with Mr. Mercouris.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDBMkEtdBWQ&feature=youtu.be
The same sources reported the facts on Russia using nukes in Donbas, the militia shot down the MH-17, the Maidan was a grassroots action and the Ukies were winning the war.
They can’t account for the truth on the ground anywhere at any time.
Why believe the “final results” when for hours and hours the early results were obviously so paltry.
All the media are doing now is dressing up the pig.
What a parliament! Yaroush is in the group. Murderers, rapists, arsonists, deviants, human organ traffickers, drug users and drug traffickers, killers of women and children, executers of prisoners, the corrupt and the corrupters.
All stooges and puppets of the warmonger class of Liberal Elites of the EU and NATO, bankrolled by the USA.
A model of democracy in the 21st Century. It is the equivalent of look into a deep, overused latrine.
George Soros, Nazi collaborator, in his own words…it’s no surprise that he hates Russia!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CW8ENFOCeBs
To quote HRC; At this point what difference does the breakdown make? The pre-determined vote count will be declared. The final Count is by Vicknu and Diebold.
Despite doubts and violations, RF (Mr. Lavrov) announced ready to accept election results.
BUT at this writing, there is this reversal. Arse-Yatz now leads 21.58%.
KIEV, October 27. /TASS/. Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk’s People’s Front is leading the elections to the Ukrainian parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, with 21.58%.The Petro Poroshenko Bloc party is the second with 21.41%.
A total of 60.2% of data from polling stations have been handled.
The same old players . . Porky remains.. Yulia has a seat, not yet out to pasture.
Kiev is still in EFF (Economic Free-fall). Let us see if the EU emergency loans to pay the past due invoices for previous gas deliveries will be approved this week.
Oh, given the material changes to the UKIE economy will the IMF revise their loan agreement?
The link for the ISIS/DAASH article mentioned at 15:08
http://pando.com/2014/06/16/the-war-nerd-heres-everything-you-need-to-know-about-too-extreme-for-al-qaeda-i-s-i-s/
Excellent post Saker. Now we know the truth about the mood in Odessa.
13 % !!!
Once Nazi, today Natoist
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Who cares about the elections and figures.
The elections were predictable as is in the USA….as is in every NATO country.
Once Nazi, today Natoist
By Saker: “Can somebody confirm these participation figures from other sources?”
No, sorry I can’t. But I can tell you that RT was saying this morning that some Ukrainian news program was reporting something like 99.9% [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD6qVJ2tfw4
-TL2Q
Given the recent events in Budapest, re the “putinization” of Hungarian politics, here is a blog commentary on Hungary and Victor Orban:
Hungary’s Orban under the microscope
http://lepontduhadu.blogspot.fr/2014/10/blog-hungarys-orban-under-microscope-eng.html
This is my first foray into commenting on events.
Yours aye
Le DaHu
There is a detailed breakdown of the exit poll results and some pertinent comments regarding Herr Yarosh in my SitRep for 20-26 Oct – HINT!
@ the pug:
I enjoyed that episode, thanks for posting the link.
Gotta love ‘the Mercouris’ :) even though I’m also partial to Sleboda too, in fact I liked them all three. They all have valid points and at the end of the day, we won’t know who was right or wrong until the fat lady sings. So, at this point in time they all have astute and informed analyses of the situation, things are still pretty much up in the air right now.
-TL2Q
You want some really bizarre figures? Watch this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD6qVJ2tfw4
And speaking of bizarre. Most here understand that there’s bizarre stuff going on in the Ukraine. But few really understand how strange this stuff is. I’m wondering if some of this stuff has been translated into English to drive that point home.
To give you an idea of the MSM propaganda sewer in Austraya, the local ABC News Radio (a Government organ)announced the glorious victory of ‘pro-Western’ parties in Ukraine with an equally triumphant, ‘..and for the first time there will be no Communists in the Ukraine Parliament’. Cue mass rejoicing, as one of the current tropes being shoved down our throats by the MSM sewer is that Putin is a not so secret Communist, bent on restoring the ‘Evil Empire’ of the Soviet Union. You must here understand that the average Ocker (aka ‘bogans’) wouldn’t know where Ukraine is, but they’ve been brainwashed from birth to hate ‘Commos’. The fact that Communists are not represented because the Nazis banned them, is totally irrelevant, of course.
LeDaHu, Orban is marked for ‘regime change’. A Colour Revolution is brewing.
Anonymous 14.51-what a typical NYT ‘scoop’. At least forty, probably more, years late!
Now the “elections” are out of the way prepare for the next junta offensive against Novorussia. Victoria “Fu*k the EU” Nuland has given them their marching orders during her recent visit to Kiev.
I have always said and I have posted this before that the only logical explanation of the current crop of EU so called leaders behaviour and actions simply has to be some good old fashioned blackmail by the NSA, and I am happy to see this confirmed by president Putin in his speech at Valdai :
“Of late, we have increasing evidence too that outright blackmail has been used with regard to a number of leaders. It is not for nothing that ‘big brother’ is spending billions of dollars on keeping the whole world, including its own closest allies, under surveillance”.
So there you have it. Which begs the question of what the NSA must have on these guys to make them be prepared to literally sell their own countries down the river and sabotage their own economies. These people are all traitors to their own countries and their own citizens.
According to a recent news report Poland apparently is about to move thousands of troops to its border with Ukraine, ostensibly for “security” reasons, which doesn’t bode well for the future.
Someone is sure hell bent on setting Europe ablaze and I for one really cant see, with the current leadership that the EU has, how this can be avoided. President Putins speech at Valdai was a geopolitical shot to the solar plexus of the west so to speak. This was his penultimate plea for sanity and an awareness of the realities of the world as it is and not as how the west would like it to be. When America and its toadies in the EU started this whole Ukraine debacle with their coup de tat they crossed a red line. The Americans are driven by desperation and blinded by arrogance and hubris and are throwing everything into this, they know their empire is going down and are willing to drag the rest of the world along with them.
President Putin also said :
“As we analyse today’s situation, let us not forget history’s lessons. First of all, changes in the world order – and what we are seeing today are events on this scale – have usually been accompanied by if not global war and conflict, then by chains of intensive local-level conflicts”.
You really cant get a clearer warning than was given by Putin in this speech. Sadly I fear the wests psychopathic rulers will just turn a deaf ear to it all in their crazed attempts to shape their own reality. I don’t believe any mainstream western media even reported the speech in full ?
Interesting article below. And a new way to describe the tensions in Europe.
My question is – how does the balance in power shift in the EU with the move from Barrosso to Juncker (On Saturday).
Juncker is clearly (as far as I can see) – a Europeanist. Opposed by the likes of David Cameron.
If Juncker introduces further tension between continental Europe & UK/(US), surely that can only benefit Putin?
This parses out the difference between the US-Russia problem and the EU-Russia problem. The EU’s support of the US plan to oust Yanukovich was purchased on the basis of the Junta government’s willingness to sign the EU Association Agreement. As Russia lost its somewhat better relationship with Ukraine with the overthrow of Yanukovich, it had to redouble its efforts in Europe. It could not influence the Ukrainian end to stop or delay implementation, because the Kiev Junta is controlled by the US. Therefore, its only chance was with the EU, and here they found success. In some ways, this was also just a product of letting the chips fall where they may. Because there are already reasons to believe that the EU never had in mind for Ukraine to be an EU member, and the AA was more or less a neo-colonial type effort on behalf of a combined ‘ultra-imperialist’ European power [14].
The very nature of the mechanisms involved in this ought to point more clearly to the thesis we have promoted since the start of these events, being that there are roughly two or three distinct camps in the EU: Atlanticists, Eurasianists, and Europeanists. The battle between the former two has been over influence over the latter. The general trend of Europeanism under contemporary modes of production and technology is in the direction of Eurasian integration, and therefore it is also accurate to consider it as part of the Eurasianist group. At the same time, the Atlanticists have used a marketing that is quite distinct from the product, in order to sell the Europeanists a false bill of goods based upon a political alliance with DC, and a financial system based in the Wall Street Ponzi scheme of speculative economics. In that sense, then, the Eurasianists can be described as the true Europeanists.
http://syncreticstudies.com/2014/10/26/the-ukrainian-failed-state-analysis-of-phase-3/
@Julian 27 October, 2014 22:51
you wrote:
[My question is – how does the balance in power shift in the EU with the move from Barrosso to Juncker (On Saturday).
Juncker is clearly (as far as I can see) – a Europeanist. Opposed by the likes of David Cameron.]
Juncker is a federalist, but if you ask me, I don’t think he can change a thing without permission. He will do as Burroso does, pick up the phone and call Washington or rather those who control it. Same as Merkel, Hollande and all the others.
The UK is a member of the EU, not because it wants to be, but because it wants to have some influence in continental matters. Now that the US decides in Brussels, UK membership is not needed by the Empire anymore, imo. I don’t know what will happen, but this is the first time I see an association agreement as an option for the UK. Good or bad for the country, I can’t say, but I suspect the latter, though I dislike the present Union as much as the British. Change comes with pain and we live in dangerous times.
With Hollande and Merkel in power, the Franco-German axis has become a mere extension of the US. I don’t know how else to interpret the suicidal sanctions. The leaders hurt the economy at the worst possible time and they may be unseated by European oligarchs and angry citizens.
There was a time when British politicians had reasons to stay in the Union to have at least some influence. Valéry Giscard d’Estaing, president of France, and Helmut Schmidt, German Kansler, used to make important decisions in Schmidts kitchen. Giscard d’Estaing spoke German and the two men had excellent relations. Schmidt said on TV [not verbatim], a Europe without France or Germany was unthinkable, but Europe could live without the UK. If the UK had left the union at that time, I think it would have been marginalized. Well, it may still happen. The British economy is vulnerable, dependent on financial services, and a crash is possible.
Cameron must make some noise for domestic reasons, but he is also a sort of colonial governor serving the Empire. If he confronts Brussels, Washington will rejoice seeing the European project in trouble, as it has done before. There is still some resistance in the Union and Washington can smell it. It doesn’t matter to Washington if the UK starts floating around hurting itself in the Atlantic, sometimes bumping into the US and sometimes into Europe. Well, in a sense, that has been happening for years for other reasons. The roots of Britains problems go back at least to the end of WW2 or perhaps to WW1 when the country took US loans on unfavourable terms and became more dependent on Washington. The UK still paid WW1 debts when Blair was in office.
[…being that there are roughly two or three distinct camps in the EU: Atlanticists, Eurasianists, and Europeanists.]
I think you are right about that. It is a new way of looking at what happens in Europe. Thanks for telling us.
@Julian 27 October, 2014 22:51
[My question is – how does the balance in power shift in the EU with the move from Barrosso to Juncker (On Saturday).
Juncker is clearly (as far as I can see) – a Europeanist. Opposed by the likes of David Cameron.]
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That is a circus for masses.
In the USA we have one party two branches for more than 200 years.
In EU-NATO countries we have new Nazis who differ like Hitler and the Brown Shirts. They are all Natoist and Anglo-Zionists. No hope, no hope for Europe.
WOW this must win the Saker prize for biased reporting
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2014/10/27/international-news/pro-west-parties-win-ukraine-landslide
Based on only 40% of the votes counted, the headline screams
Pro-West parties win Ukraine landslide
I couldn’t finish reading it.
Mulga Mumblebrain said…
LeDaHu, Orban is marked for ‘regime change’. A Colour Revolution is brewing.
Szervus, LoDaHu. Welcome and don’t be afraid to say what you think.
Orban is not stupid. He knows what’s going on. He’s already kicked out the IMF and is getting his loans through government Bonds,which were greatly oversubscribed (and no conditions attached to how he uses the money).
He is running tax investigations against NGOs and restricting what foreign funds they can accept/forcing them to register it. Similar to what Russia is doing. This closes one easy door for foreign money to buy anti-government action. (As an aside, to illustrate how it works – that Mother organisation in Russia that has mothers protesting about their sons being secretly sent to war and secretly buried when they die — a fair enough cause. But paid for, through 3 cut-outs, by the US of A. Surprise?)
Orban is too close to too many far-right people, IMHO. But he’s also gerry-mandered the electoral districts. There’s enough opposition left that that might get fixed. But color revolution? as in actual street protests? maybe. As in revolution? no thanks, Hungary already had one of those. Two actually (there was one in the Monarchy days,too).
Hungary gets some benefits from EU membership, but there’s wide-spread nationalism of the kind that doesn’t like “foreigners” (ie EU) telling them what to do. They have not and will not adopt the euro, which insulates them a bit from the kind of disaster that hit under-developed places like Greece. There is a lot less kleptocracy than in some other former Soviet bloc countries, partly from having (quietly) had private enterprise for some years before the Soviet broke up. Business transparency and consumer protection laws were introduced very early on, as was a voucher-based scheme for settling re-privatisation issues regarding nationalised land holdings.
Unemployment is high, wages and pensions are low, but so are taxes. There is no ideology to “revolution” the people into, including the notion they’d be better off being more slavish to the EU, as they’ve already tried that.
@ Mulga, if you want regime change, for heaven’s sake work out some way to get rid of Abbott. who to replace him with is the problem………
Whenever Biden goes to Ukraine carnage follows. His next visit:
Poroshenko Assures Biden of Sharpened Focus on Peace Process in Southeast Ukraine: Kiev Petro Poroshenko attends graduation ceremony at National University of Defense of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko attends graduation ceremony at National University of Defense of Ukraine
© RIA Novosti. Mikola Lazarenko
09:32 28/10/2014
Poroshenko Unlikely to Continue Military Confrontation After Elections: Expert Poroshenko Thanks Voters for Backing His Peace Plan.
US Vice President to Visit Ukraine in November: White House
Lavrov: Russia Hopes Ukraine Authorities Adopt Peaceful Approach in Dealing with DPR, LPR
KIEV, October 28 (RIA Novosti) – Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has assured US Vice President Joe Biden during a telephone conversation that he will pay closer attention to the peace process in southeast Ukraine, the president’s press service said in a statement Tuesday.
“President Poroshenko stated that his further effort is to focus on peace process [in the east of Ukraine] and implementation of reforms. Poroshenko and Biden expressed hope for constructive dialogue on establishing peace in Donbas, promotion of reforms in Ukraine, economic assistance and cooperation with IMF [International Monetary Fund],” the statement said.
The White House stated earlier on Monday that during a telephone conversation Biden also congratulated the Ukrainian leader on holding “successful elections in accordance with democratic electoral standards.”
The US vice president plans to visit Ukraine in the coming weeks to discuss the current situation with Poroshenko, according to the White House.
Military confrontation in southeastern Ukraine began in mid-April, after Luhansk and Donestsk regions refused to recognize the legitimacy of the coup-imposed authorities in Kiev.
On September 5, a ceasefire agreement was signed between government troops and independence supporters of the self-proclaimed Luhansk and Donetsk people’s republics during a trilateral meeting of the Contact Group on Ukraine. Both sides of the conflict have repeatedly accused each other of violating the truce.
As a result of the ongoing political crisis in the country, Ukraine is currently on the verge of a default. Kiev authorities are trying to rescue the country’s economy with international loans, including $17 billion from the International Monetary Fund (IMF).
Anonymous said…
@Julian 27 October, 2014 22:51 — As a citizen of the UK, I hope we do come out of the European Union and find a way just to freely trade. Of course their will be pain, but yet what does the future hold? There is no gain without pain and who knows a new world, more tolerant, happier and respectful of its neighbours might emerge.
What I have found interesting, is the fact that no NATO member is allowed to appoint a defence or foreign minister without the permission of the USA. There was an article, with regards Hungary and the USA starting up a colour revolution, because they have the audacity to support their people in Ukraine and are supportive of Russia. I then discovered that the USA has military bases (700-800) in over 63 countries and power over 131 countries. Personally for me, I believe the USA is a boil that needs lancing (not the people, but their leaders and lobbyists).
ha! I didn’t even see this yet when I backed Viktor Orban before.
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/2014/10/27/03-03-57pm/hungary_prepares_bypass_eu_ban_south_stream_pipeline_construction
He’s thumbing his nose at EU and going ahead with South Stream…in a way that cuts out the big operators. Once one section is built the others will regain their enthusiasm, too.
Actually…Serbia was going to start their bit in October. EU has been pressuring them to drop it. They’re in accession talks with EU right now. Putin just had a few good days in Serbia. HHmmmmm…..
See why he can’t be on Novorossiya’s case 24/7?
Re Anonymous @28 October, 2014 03:45
“In the USA we have one party two branches for more than 200 years.”
Except maybe 1854-1860: the demise of the Whigs and rise of the Republicans, when the parties were radically different, resulting in the Civil War.
If only 33 % of the population voted it means that the vote was a farce. 67 % of the population did not vote !
Here is another perspective . Poroshenko obtained 23 % and Yatseniuk 21% Considering the total percentage of voters 33 % It makes the real votes percentage obtained ridiculous think about 23 divided by 33 69% for Poroshenko and 63.6 % for Yatseniuk we are over 132.6 % .
Morte al nuovo ordine
@Anonymous 28 October, 2014 09:36
[As a citizen of the UK, I hope we do come out of the European Union]
I am the one who wrote about possible pain in the UK. I may be wrong, I never claim to know it all, and I certainly understand your feelings. I wish your country well. Nothing will be done if we only look at problems, but to avoid them, it is best to be aware of them.
Less than 45% voted, should not be valid as elections at all! All opposition banned – not fair, just or democratic at all!
By Anonymous 09:36 “As a citizen of the UK, I hope we do come out of the European Union and find a way just to freely trade.”
No disrespect to you personally, but I wish I could understand what is this obsession with free trade, especially when is repeated by the regular folks on the street as if they were unpaid spokespersons for the business lobby. I do not get it.
The UK has a trade deficit this means; it imports more than it exports. This trade deficit has been fluctuating back and forth over the past few years, but as with everything else, same way they fiddle with inflation numbers, I’m fairly sure the trade deficit gap is far wider than reported. And why wouldn’t be? What the hell UK produces? Besides haggis, kilts and useless financial debt instruments, that is…
But all of the above is besides the point, there’s no legal reason why the UK can’t leave the EU and keep the Free Trade Agreement in place.
Finally, I too hope you guys get your referendum, the immigration influx you’re suffering is completely unsustainable; it’s widening the gap between rich and poor at record speed, it’s pushing natives out of jobs, lowering wages, straining the infrastructure, pushing property prices up to astronomic levels. It’s insane! If this is allowed to continue you’ll soon be living in Dickensian nightmare.
As side note; I think Marine Le Pen is making all the right noises; she’s on the side of the will of the French people, she represents hope for the rest of European citizens that want o leave the EU – if France leaves it could trigger a domino effect in other nations aspiring to leave, and she’s reasonably pro-Russia.
I think Russian officials should take note and start supporting this woman. A donation here and a donation there towards her political campaign, couldn’t hurt.
Kat Kan, it sounds like Orban, of whom I am not a great admirer, is no fool. Getting the interfering Western ‘NGOs’ under control is essential if a country’s sovereignty is to be protected. But the Real Evil Empire will always find willing compradores ready to sell their country out to the Exceptionalists, if only from the ranks of fellow psychopaths. And a Colour Revolution can succeed with little popular support, if the ruling elites have been suborned. A replacement for Abbott may be necessary, because he seems to be in the early throes of dementia. The choice of successors is a packed field of mediocrities, psychopaths and ‘semi house-trained pole-cats’.
Very good graphics with most of the votes counted
http://en.ria.ru/infographics/20141028/194720565/Ukraines-Snap-Parliamentary-Elections.html