On November 27, Russia started deploying Bal coastal missile systems near the Kerch Strait, south of which an encounter between a group of 2 Ukrainian Gurza-class artillery boats and a sea-tug and Russian coastal guards had taken place on November 25.
Every launcher in the Bal coastal defense missile system carries 8 Kh-35 anti-ship cruise missiles equipped with 145 kg High Explosive Fragmentation warheads. The KH-35 has a range of 130-260 km (depending on the modification) and is capable of defeating ships with a displacement of up to 5 000 t.
The detained Ukrainian ships are currently stationed in the port of Kerch while local courts are determining measures of restraint for the 24 Ukrainian servicemen, including several intelligence officers. So far, they have been indicted with illegal crossing of the Russian state border.
On November 28, martial law is entering into force in 10 Ukrainian regions, in particular those near the borders of Russia, Belarus and the breakaway republic of Trans-Dniester.
Local sources fear that the Poroshenko regime may use the martial law regime to launch a large-scale crackdown on government critics across the country, first of all directed at opposition politicians, journalists and bloggers. Over the past few years, the current Ukrainian regime has become widely known for its oppressive actions against political and civic opposition as well as for its suppression of non-loyal media outlets.
In an escalation of absurdity, Chief of the General Staff of Ukraine’s Armed Forces Gen. Viktor Muzhenko came up with a new fiction story about the mighty Ukrainian Navy and Russian aggression. According to him, a Russian S-30 fighter jet launched two missiles at the Ukrainian ships during the November 25 incident.
Clearly, the Ukrainian Gurza-class artillery boats and sea-tug evaded these missiles with Matrix-style moves because there is no other explanation as to why none of them was sunk.
Too many unswered questions here, something else is going on.
Why is there no talk of the NATO vessel flying a Ukranian flag and the US spy plane overhead durin the entire incident? It is documented even in some mainstream media outlets such as Sputnik, so hardly conspiracy theory!
Is this NATO ship hoisting a Ukrainian flag the ship that was shot at?
Makes sense as if only the flag was changed Russia would need to ward if off if it was making a run for the straights – and why Russia would need to park a great big cargo ship under the bridge to stop 3 tiny boats.
Why is this ship being disregarded?
Why no serious talk about the US spy plane (reported in the Russian media) that was flying overhead throughout the incident, much less why?
Why do no reports talk of the ASW helicopter shown in some news footage?
Why is the media still refering to the Intelligence boat (aka Spy boat) as a ‘tug’ – even after names and ranks of intelligence officers was released to the media?
Why have Russia moved 100’s of troops, dozens of military vehicles, a battalion of BAL coastal defence missiles, Pantisir, and now more S400 to cover the bridge if only a few Ukranian ‘tugs’ were expected, or if this ‘incident’ is now over.
Why was there reports and accounts of UK spec ops being captured in the Ukrainian media (before martial law cut the internet links)? – Were these from the boat that had the missiles fired at it and is now not being spoken of?
It is common and clear knowledge that the UK have been psychologically preparing thier people for a war with Russia for a long time. The latest ‘buzzed by 17 Russian jets’ HMS Duncan nonsence is just the latest psyop.
Also, pictures of the ‘tug’ boat released in Russian media (still on the net for all to see) showed over 100lb of plastic explosive bricks, machine guns, grenades, and special ops type equipment, ie sabatage equipment not routine patrol equipment. Why no western analysis of a potential spec ops job gone wrong?
Clearly the Russians expect a serious and major challenge to either the bridge or the straight (perhaps both) and are getting ready to fight more than a few small boats. Indeed, it can be argued that they were already prepped for a fight with ground attack jets, helicopter gun ships, a corvette with anti-ship missiles and torpedos, and a helicopter with an ASW device – not forgetting all the Coastguard ships which were already manned by Russian Special forces.
We are all missing something else here. Perhaps some of the rumours on the net are true afterall?
But what I really want to know is, what happened to that other ship – the one that had 2 missiles fired at it?
How about links (urls) to these news sources?
Why don’t you bring the “proof” of all your interrogatories?
Why do we have to ask for your “evidence”?
Why are you missing facts for your assertions?
Why are you trolling here?
Oh, please do excuse me for asking some questions to fill some gaps.
Links, references? I made assumptions this was already well known, clearly not.
I will do 30 seconds of clicking on the internet for you, but no more than that, as you should really learn to use at least Google for yourself. You may also wish to learn how to read between lines when news items are presented (such as code words like ‘US trained’ and ‘not so coded words’ such as ‘Inteligence Officer’:
1) US spy plane: https://sputniknews.com/russia/201811281070189573-kerch-poseidon-spying/
2) Sab / spec ops kit on ‘tug’: https://sputniknews.com/russia/201811281070189573-kerch-poseidon-spying/
3) Intel officers & spy ‘tug’ – even Kiev admits! : https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/sbu-confirms-its-officers-were-aboard-vessels-captured-by-russia.html
4) Intel Officer (another of many): https://www.sbs.com.au/news/intelligence-officer-hurt-in-russia-clash
5) Russian Spec ops already on boats: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/26/russia-fsb-special-forces-seize-ukraine-navy-ships-crimea/
Right, that was actually 60 seconds, I did twice as much for you than promised – do the rest yourself. Look at video footage for the helicopter on Russian news, and check shipping logs for locations of NATO ships and times. Oh, and drop the ‘intellectual’ BS when someone asks for some help, it is just annoying.
Before I go, also ask yourself why a senior Ukrainian official would make himself look like a dick if he did not have any info about another ship (that perhaps he should not have mentioned, and which justifed a live fire response not just a gentle nudge).
I came here for some answers, my mistake, I will now go elsewhere and ‘troll’ another website for some answers.
Huh?
You’re going to run away just because ONE thoughtless dìck impolitely asked you what I was about to ask you just more politely – for your sources – so I could go “read more?” Oh well, my loss, our loss (not just the Larche’s!)
Anyway, thanx for putting ALL my questions and more into one succinct post.
We’re just the kiepies and we’re never told anything of importance: according to NATO etc it’s just Russian aggression and according to the Russians it’s just the Candyman preventing his upcoming election loss. Nevermind that was an awful lot of firepower to drive home the point – “File your paperwork!”
….Kiepies are chickens. Often running around headless.
Noticed bad link to the spy tub sab / spec op kit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hodhwYaN0CE&index=19&t=0s&list=PLUZCf1bb0ZArNpe1oFcYuMnyIQ930z1-4
See, I do care after all.
The others look fine, but Google is your friend in these matters :)
Yandex, Baidu and DuckDuckGo are my friends. Google is the enemy of truth.
I hear gibiru is the way to go.
Peace
Yankee, I like the fact that you care, but I will say one short thing here:
Why are you questioning Russia’s moves, and I am not questioning your supposed arguments.
Russia can do as it pleases on it’s own territory and to defend it’s territory. They can move all their launchers, boats, 20,000 tanks, 5,000 planes and 1mln soldiers if they desire and who are we to say they can’t?
Ukies provoked and got their a$$ kicked. The story ends here.
Oh yes the tanker. So what? Can’t they do it? This is not an international water. Ukies need permission to get through and nobody else.
Indeed, it can be argued that they were already prepped for a fight with ground attack jets, helicopter gun ships, a corvette with anti-ship missiles and torpedos, and a helicopter with an ASW device – not forgetting all the Coastguard ships which were already manned by Russian Special forces.
Well there’s nothing unusual or surprising about the Russian response to the Ukrainian incursion as far as I can see. Crimea is home to RF’s Black Sea Fleet and RF have a point to make about the Kerch Straits and the Sea of Azov.
With some countries insisting that RF ‘annexed’ Crimea despite the fact that Crimea voted to join Russia and with an increasingly desperate nutjob running the Ukraine, it would be surprising if the RF were not ‘prepped for a fight’ as you put it. It should be pretty obvious to all by now that RF General Staff are not incompetent and are thorough in their planning.
Maybe FUKUS were involved in a special op in the straits using Ukrainian transport, who knows? They are not going to admit to that and RF are not going to gloat for foiling FUKUS’ plans. Special ops are a cat and mouse game — both sides will plead ignorance unless something significant crops up. It is enough for RF that FUKUS know that they (RF) know their game, if indeed a special op was mounted.
It is surprising that some people are surprised at the thoroughness of RF preparations for any eventualities in and around Crimea.
Basil
Please would you provide the source for this ship? I’ve spent a lot more than 60 seconds looking for it but no luck.
US media: the United States established the Nazi regime in Ukraine
Author:Ilya Muromsky
August 8, 2018
The reality shown in this photo is unsuitable for publication in the official US media, because
the purpose of the “news” media is to hide from the public some of the most important inter-
national realities. For example, the fact that the United States established the Nazi regime in
Ukraine, which was opposed to Russia, and now blames the Russian Federation for the
measures it was forced to take to protect itself from the Nazi regime in the neighborhood.
Looking at this photo, it becomes clear why Russia was forced to defend itself.
The federal news agency presents a translation of the article “This Is the Real, Americanized,
Nazi-Dominated Ukraine” (“Here it is – a real, Americanized, Nazi Ukraine”), published on the
analytical portal of the Strategic Culture Foundation. Posted by: Eric Zuesse.
This photo, along with some others, was published on July 4, 2018 in the article “Aces
Vinstenly” from The Electronic Intifada entitled “Israel arms the neo-Nazis in Ukraine”.
Israel does this by being part of a US-led coalition that supports the current racist-fascist
government of Ukraine. It was formed as a result of the bloody coup that former US
President Barack Obama began to plan no later than 2011 and held in February 2014 under
the guise of anti-corruption mass demonstrations. By the way, some of the snipers hired by
the US have already made the case public and told how they were hired and how they
performed it.
In the Western media, the overthrow and replacement of the democratically elected
government of Ukraine is simply called “Maidan revolution”, or “Ukrainian revolution 2014”,
and not “Obama’s coup in Ukraine”. That is why George Friedman, the founder and owner
of the private intelligence and analysis organization Stretfor, in a conversation with the
Russian edition called these events “the most blatant coup in history,” and when the
American government suited him, he began to deny it. Falsehood is a must.
The person in the center of the photo (it also has flags of the organizations of the Right
Sector 1 and OUN banned in the Russian Federation) – Andrey Biletsky. His Azov regiment
receives weapons directly from American taxpayers (i.e., the US government). He publicly
stated that the ideology of the regiment and himself is “socialism”, defined as “denial of
democracy”, “racism”, defined as “against the Semites and nonhumans whom they use”. And
finally, the approval of “imperialism” with the aim of “creating a third empire [Ukrainian
Third Reich].” It seems that he simply borrowed the ideology from Hitler, replacing the word ”
Germany” with the word “Ukraine”.
The US-imposed regime also committed massacres of Ukrainians who speak Russian and
who did not want to obey. And all this with the money of the taxpayers of the United States,
Israel, the Netherlands, Poland and other US allies who financed Azov and who continue to
finance the government of Ukraine.
And while the Democratic Party supports and endorses the Nazi government in Ukraine,
the Republican Party will continue to call it a bipartisan consensus. But bipartisan unity on any
issue does not mean that the policy is correct. And the media, instead of exposing the perpet-
rators, continues to support them. They keep lying about it.
That is why because of the inability to resist the establishment, the cowardly Trump continues
to pursue Obama’s policy, does not condemn and does not abolish it. If Trump really wanted to
expose the lies of American “news”, then this is the first of the “legends” of the Obama era,
which he should refute. And this should be done directly in front of the American people, suppor-
ting their speech with video clips with actual evidence that will shake the country and cause real
controversy, which the establishment is trying to prevent with all its might.
So can there be any democracy in the USA with such media? Will we manage to avoid the
the third world war?
The whole situation is generally similar to the US attempts to seize Syria, but it is easier to
expose lies in Ukraine. Everything I have said indicates one simple fact: the current US
government does not represent the interests of the American people.
This is a non-fictional, historical version of George Orwell’s 1984 novel. And this is
happening right before our eyes.
The organization is prohibited in the territory of the Russian Federation.
(Google translation)
https://riafan.ru/1086381-amerikanskie-smi-ssha-ustanovili-na-ukraine-nacistskii-rezhim
Madonna of Gorlovka
http://www.stalkerzone.org/third-anniversary-gorlovka-massacre/
Chicago Council on Global Affairs – George Friedman’s speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeLu_yyz3tc
“Every launcher in the Bal coastal defense missile system carries 8 Kh-35 anti-ship cruise missiles equipped with 145 kg High Explosive Fragmentation warheads. The KH-35 has a range of 130-260 km (depending on the modification) and is capable of defeating ships with a displacement of up to 5 000 t.”
Actually, that size warhead is large enough to neutralize modern warships up to and including the largest carriers, depending on where the strike occurs on the vessel. By neutralize I don’t mean sink, but render inoperable from a combat stand point. Which is what one wants, to render the adversary incapable of inflicting further mayhem.
Plus
“Moscow is set to start building a new cutting-edge radar station in Crimea in place of a deprecated Soviet-era one. The facility will significantly boost Russia’s capabilities in detecting and tracking missiles and other objects.”
RT
Why is there no talk of the NATO vessel flying a Ukranian flag and the US spy plane overhead durin the entire incident? It is documented even in some mainstream media outlets such as Sputnik, so hardly conspiracy theory!
Perhaps because there was no NATO vessel flying a Ukrainian flag (the three ships were Ukrainian, flying Ukrainian flags) and the US plane was flying in international airspace several days later, so yes you are a conspiracy theorist,
It seems, even in a non-mainstream place such as this, that those who accuse others of “conspiracy theories” rather conspicuously fail to mention two important points.
The first is that the alternative to the maligned “conspiracy theory” is usually some sort of a coincidence theory: certain things just happen to have happened, and that’s all there is to it. This does not mean that we should pay attention to the type of obvious nonsense such as Velikovskian Worlds-in-Collision (a glaring example), just to be pellucidly clear, but rather that the immediate take-down term “conspiracy theory” should perhaps be used with a bit more restraint, if at all. Furthermore, such a claim also requires evidence to back it, just as the “theory” itself requires evidence.
The second, and far more important point, is that the very term “conspiracy theory” was invented by Allan Dulles to counter popular opposition to the conclusions of the Warren Commission, and this fact is well-documented in “Conspiracy Theory in America” by L. deHaven-Smith, ISBN 978.0.292.75769.1. Specifically, the term exists to discredit those who doubt mainstream narratives, which I had thought includes all of us who read and support this site.
So, perhaps we might all refrain from using Imperial techniques against each other? Otherwise, I hear the zionazis laughing all the way to the Redshield bank(s).
Again, this does not imply that every piece of quackery be given free rein (sic: not reign!). If something is glaringly wrong (like the Velikovsky hypothesis mentioned above, by example), then it should be simple to make a factual statement that exposes the error, without resorting to the infamous label “conspiracy theory.”
https://sputniknews.com/world/201811291070226911-turkey-russia-erdogan-putin-kerch-strait-crimea-ukraine/
Erdogan the snake will eventually come unstuck.
One question. i slap you in the face. Your reaction will be you don’t move or you do something about it.
You don’t I have permission to slap you again. I can even go a bit further. You do protest or react. I call you the agressor. I shout and complain. The vast majority of voices around say you’re the agressor because you protested or reacted. Proofs of it are plainly visible. Anti ship missiles are in place, a cargo ship was photographied blocking the Kerch strait. You’re being shamed and made guilty.
How do you react to it ?
This tactic is used time and again against Russia and Syria. What to do against it ?
Bad news just now. I went to a meeting and met a friend from Belarus, and a new person, a young woman whose family is from Ukraine. So I asked her what her native language is, Ukrainian or Russian, and she said Russian, so I said good, I love Russia.
Julia, from Odessa, knows that her country is in really bad shape but I don’t think she understands how it got to that place. An Israeli guy, who lives in China, also hasn’t figured out that Ukraine is run by actual Nazis (we didn’t get into Israeli politics which would have probably gotten pretty crazy pretty fast.)
Then the woman from Belarus and the young woman, who comes from and whose family is in Odessa both shuddered with barely concealed hatred of Russia. Most young people I meet are against Russia and buy the poison narrative they have been fed for years.
At least one guy from Belgium with whom I spoke knows that MSM is mostly lies. But all too many, especially in the former USSR buy into the anti Russia narrative.
Basically, what I see is that most of the world has been prepared psychologically for a war with Russia, which they apparently have not figured out, has been engineered by the West and which would certainly lead to suffering they cannot even begin to imagine.
Where are you? Are you in europe or America
FYI, North America plus Europe roughly amount to a quarter of the world, even if we add the entire former Soviet Union it’d amount to something close to half the world, so what do you mean by ‘most of the world’?
And former Soviet territories probably buy into anti-Russia narratives as a way of asserting their independence, I wouldn’t count that as genuine hatred against Russia.
The Chief of the General Staff of Ukraine’s Armed Forces Gen. Viktor Muzhenko is known to have impaired vision, many times describing flashes of light that he sees when he is sober. Those flashes can be similar to trajectories of Russian missiles, but one wouldn’d be able to tell, as all these flashes happen in his head only. One possible explanation would be that his brain interacts with muons from outer space; due to his thin skull and thick skin the muons would generate such disturbances.
The actions of Ukraine’s government threaten to drag us into nuclear war. The original Kerch incident, then introduction of martial law and requests that NATO sails warships through the Straits, only help to heighten tension. If Poroshenko succeeds in his gamble he will get Armageddon: fails, and he will got the way of Saakashvili. He should learn from the pattern of history, as others.
https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/
Poroschenko should go the way of Ceausescu. And that is even kind.
With the usual phoney melodramatic suspense prior for dramatic effect, netanyahoo’s boy toy confirms what we already knew. That trump has no interest in improving ties with Russia, only increasing the zionazis hybrid war, and that his quisling regime was in on orchestrating this provocation from the start.
Trump Cancels Meeting With Putin After Being Briefed on Kerch Strait Case
https://sputniknews.com/us/201811291070250912-trump-putin-meeting-uncertain/
“President Donald Trump said on Thursday he would make a final decision on whether to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G20 summit in Argentina after he receives a full report on the Kerch Strait incident.
US President Donald Trump said on Thursday that he decided to cancel a scheduled meeting with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin.
“Based on the fact that the ships and sailors have not been returned to Ukraine from Russia, I have decided it would be best for all parties concerned to cancel my previously scheduled meeting in Argentina with President Vladimir Putin. I look forward to a meaningful Summit again as soon as this situation is resolved!” Trump said in a Twitter message.
Trump’s announcement comes less than an hour after he claimed it was a ‘very good time’ to meet with Putin, but that he would make a decision after receiving a full report on the naval clash in the Black Sea.
‘I am getting a full report on the plane as to what happened [in Kerch Strait] with respect to that, and that will determine what I am going to be doing [regarding the meeting with Putin]’, Trump told reporters at the White House as he prepared to depart for Buenos Aires.”
Ukraine calls for Nato vessels to be sent to the Sea of Azov as President Poroshenko warns of Russian blockade 29 NOVEMBER 2018
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has asked Nato members, including Germany, to send naval vessels to the Sea of Azov to back his country in its stand-off with Russia.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/29/petro-poroshenko-requests-nato-vessels-sea-azov-ukraine-warns/
Looks like a very well, planed and executed move of the West, to engage Russia in a perpetual confrontation.
Ukraine isn’t a member of NATO to ask it’s help and I doubt this was well planned, if it were the propaganda would have been more intense and things would be moving much faster.
Now the UK will facilitate the novichok end game in Syria to more than likely attack under a false flag scenario western coalition forces to pin the blame on Iran and Russia and Assad. Erdogan is involved up to his eyeballs and let his hand be seen with his interference in Azov Sea. He will attempt to close Bosporus with NATO assets now located on Black Sea. A UK destroyer will sit astride the Dardanelles and Daniel 8 will play out. One can expect bio weapon release from Georgia. Transnistria will come under attack.
We approach Hannuka on approximately 10th of December. ‘No man knows the day nor the hour’ because the new year is declared when the new moon is visible and that is dependent on visibility.
Time to understand eschatology folks.!
US is desperate to pretend it will go to a Nuclear war over Ukraine, Ukraine believes it. EU does to care, yet, or maybe ever, neither do ordinary Americans. As the globe’s Jullian Assange faces the fact the US President really plans to assassinate an honest man for his honesty and those billions of us who desperately need him say nothing to save him, one concludes that US propaganda is a million times more effective that Nazi propaganda ever was or is today.