Saker note: I don’t necessarily agree with everything Jonathan Roth says here, but I find his presentation thought-provoking and well worth listening to. I hope that you will find likewise.
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Saker note: I don’t necessarily agree with everything Jonathan Roth says here, but I find his presentation thought-provoking and well worth listening to. I hope that you will find likewise.
If we use the “80% information-15%economic-5% kinetic” formula, the USA is already in a civil war.
That being said, I think civil war will occur when (1) USA military decisively loses a war overseas, and (2) true economic depression hits USA.
As a Free Market kakistocracy, where a parasitic oligarchy controls all political power and an ever greater proportion of the country’s wealth and goods, there is a one-sided civil war raging in the USA, with the parasites rampant, and the plebs quiescent, anaesthetised by drugs, junk-food, lifelong brainwashing and learned helplessness, and any deviants controlled by fake politics, like the Sanders fiasco, and very real police forces and a massive prison-industrial complex. Similar, but less drastic, situations exist in the rest of the West, with elite greed and savagery ever growing.
Mulga Mumblebrain
You said it as it is. However, is there a possibility of a civil war in the US ? Well, a civil war of the type that was fought between 1861 and 1865 is impossible, as I don’t see anybody wanting to fight and die for that type of civil war. However, large scale social and political disturbances, leading to armed clashes and anarchy, are possible, especially if the country suffered a financial meltdown, as analysts are predicting. For example, during Katrina in New Orleans, when the water poured into the city, 50 % of police officers did not show up for work, staying home to protect their families. Of the remaining 50 %, 25 % showed up for duty, while the remaining 25 % went on a looting rampage, some of which was shown on the Internet. Not a good sign for the future, especially since both the police and military are payed in US dollars.
What would happen during a financial meltdown ? A good possibility of the country breaking up. Could anybody count on the police and military to endanger their lives, bearing in mind the dollar would be worthless ? I don’t think so. Worse, there are secessionist movements in the US. Their influence would dramatically rise. The only part of the US which could find a cohesive force would probably be the old South, Dixie land, which had it’s own state during the Civil War. Dixie land is also the oldest part of English speaking America, possessing more traditions and history than other parts of the US. As the old saying in Dixie land goes, “The South Will Rise Again. It probably will. And the other states of the US ? Those who don’t become independent, will probably become part of Canada.
I did not see this before. this is exactly the way I see it… not civil war but disturbances and possibly yet social revolution in which the people get going, overthrow the status and create something in its stead
had I see this Mulga Mublebrain… and it was right there… I would not have had to say what I did
civil war?
you mean revolution?
and how is that to take place…its a very one-sided reality in the USA.
the elite are in the drivers seat, creating opportunity for the revolution to eat itself in internecine struggle
I don’t see a civil war in the USA..between whom. I don’t see the middle classes as a huge and solid and secure entity. they are not. they are as insecure as ordinary people. what would they fight ordinary folk for? they have no reason to trust the american state
the true and secure elites are small..can easily be overwhelmed by a revolutionary working class. soldiers, unemployed, underpaid, ghettos, jails..if when the people move they go open up the jails
I don’t know but this lecturer seems as if trying to create a civil war out of thin air, rather than to describe one in gestation ready to blow
ben sampson
A revolution in America ? Is such a thing possible in the US ? The country is already polarized, and I don’t see a revolution coming, as Americans don’t have a feel for history like Europeans do. A civil war ? Not impossible, but highly unlikely. Who would fight in a new civil war and for whom ? On the other hand social and political disturbances, followed by armed conflict and anarchy is possible, leading to the break up of the country.
a revolution is more likely than a civil war in my estimation…..
what is a civil war?
the way a civil war is defined I would ask which part of the USA is in such regional, independent minded ferment they would want to leave the USA.
what groups have vested interests so large, widespread and hindered by the national flow, directed by the rich minority for their minority interests such groups would see only secession as their way out of such exploitation
as I said the american regular middle class does not appear to be as secure as it once was. that was a large class. I don’t see that class energized enough to fight for anything in america. I can see ordinary people ready..yet historically doe anyone ever know how ready they are for any form of collective action. that is why it is said that revolutions can come like a thief in the night
yet this day, globally reminds of the description of the 19-thirties globally. the revolution was out in the streets..and despite how Mumblebrain described america above as a kakistocracy, ordinary american folk do not appear as quiescent as he implies
now if a military defeat takes place that would help with soldiers returning home with nothing to do. if the economy worsens dropping more people into unemployment to meet those already there, the people of the ghettos traditionally opposed to the way things are. there is more scope for revolution than there is for civil war. that is what I see which is why I suggest revolution…not that it is some sure fire expectation that there will be a revolution
Capitalism is an unending civil war waged by an active and psychopathic elite that attacks the rest of society, humanity and Life on Earth in order to quench their insatiable greed for wealth and power, and continues, unceasingly, until the victims (or hosts)die, or revolt against the cancer that afflicts them. As the ecological Holocaust deepens and broadens with hideous speed, the cancer that is capitalism is about to fulfill its destiny-to destroy everything living in its quest to turn it into money.
Sounds like the USA is ruled by a military junta!
This is indeed the most interesting point that was mentioned in the video !
Since November 22, 1963, at the latest.
Somebody is clearly trying to spark troubles, and it won’t take much for it to happen. Not many believed things of that scale were possible in Russia prior to 1915. One thing is for sure, the zionists are craving blood, and right now, Americans seems to be like the easiest target; unleash the left against the right, and when they’re done with each other, finish off the leftovers with the military and police. In addition to that, it also becoming more, and more apparent that implementation of 5G will play a huge role in driving confusion and chaos deeper into the masses.
Is there an idea that is common across America, that holds the nation together? Or is it just inertia that keeps things from flying completely apart?
America used to have an idea. A strong idea that held it together. It was Liberty. It was the thought that all people are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. It was the thought that in a free land a person could build their own life, however they dreamt it.
Post WW2, the state put a knife into the back of that idea. America became powerful. Controlling America’s government meant being powerful in the world. And that was a prize, being able to control the world, that attracted evil. Quaint ideas like freedom and liberty didn’t stand a chance against the powerful and the evil who wanted America’s power and wealth for themselves. So, Freedom and Liberty were destroyed for progress, with progress being defined as what made more power and wealth for the powerful.
Thus, the idea that held America together was killed for money, greed and lust for power. It seemed expedient at the time to the powerful. The unifying idea was killed, now just inertia holds it together. We haven’t seen the end result of that yet, but it is coming, like a train out of control.
Two unifying ideas drove the USA. First there was insatiable greed and egomania, and then there was notion of murder and genocide as sacred, religious, observations, that grew out of the Old Testament/Torah and its numerous exhortations to exterminate ‘God’s enemies’ down to the ‘last suckling babe’. They are still extant, more virulent than ever, but the plebs are no longer included in their beneficiaries. That must cause trouble, but ‘Divide and Rule’ tactics will ensure that the ‘losers’ turn on each other, not the Bosses.
Tom
Great post.
From where I am standing in the antipodes I couldn’t agree with you more…the train looks totally out of control to me. The disaster unfolding is diplomatic, social and financial in nature and will grow into a global nightmare.
Even if Trump did have the best of intentions, the notion that he could turn this disaster around when it is so institutionally entrenched is totally absurd. The fact that he has appointed warmongering lying lunatics like Bolton, Pompeo, Haley and now Abrams to assist him in his ivory tower is proof positive that the interests of Mainstreet are not evenly remotely connected to his agenda.
An obscene and early clue as to Trump’s allegiance was when he increased the military budget by a margin that was greater than the entire annual Russian defense budget. That one act told us all we needed to know…what has unfolded since is merely affirmation.
Disclaimer…with Hitlery at the helm the situation would have been infinitely worse.
Col
Controlling America’s government started with founding of FED in 1913.
I think this is an a man who is part of the elite, and is speaking to other elites. This revolution will not be about race, or gender. It will be about the rich who will drive the economy into the dirt, the rich who kill our soldiers to line their pockets, for arms and oil. It will start by harming people of color because, lets be honest that it is white males who makes up the american elite still. If we were in saudi it would be brown males that drove the revolt, that is if it is not driven by america.
This man spent all kinds of time on all the things the elite want us to think is the problem, race, sex, religion gender, and of course unwed mothers! Let me tell you where I live these are not issues! The Issues are losing your home because you broke your hip, not losing your job because you broke your hip and lost your home. Losing your home because of wild fires and you had no insurance because that would require less money to feed your kids. Losing you apt. Because one of your 3 jobs you had one let you go. You could not make rent.
How many people spend time with the homeless? They are not on the street because of color, gender,or religion! They are on the streets because they lost their house because of an injury. Once you lose your house you have no mailing address, no shower. They are on the street because we do not take care of the mentally ill in this country. The elite spend their time dreaming up all the reasons why Americans are so angry, they never mention the Jeff Bezos of the world. The elite in this country have control of the media so they talk about gender, me too, color, wellfare queens, unwed mothers , abortion and of course guns. They dont talk about our oil being under (name the country) so we must go in and straighten them out. They dont talk about the big extraction industries who are massively subsidized and leave massive messes behind while poisoning water and the inhabitants of where ever they are. They dont talk about the corrupt banksters, they never talk about the massive deceit of our military industrial complex. We are not permitted to take the name aipac and abuse it because we know that is a sin in america. This guy is no different. We are not going to have a revolt because of color gender and single mothers bullshit. We are going to have a revolt because the oligarchs are going to give us no choice.
what a fantastic comment Susan – thanks for that – I agree 100%
Thanks Ann, I think the more I thought about what he said the more it pissed me off. For the last 2 years I have gone on solo journeys in Easter WA. OR, NE Colo, UT and BC. I have heard a lot of criticism about organic food but it is not because of us environmentalists it is the undermining of the rules by big Agra. Ranchers hate big Agra. They do not want to send there cattle to Kansas to die but big Agra has made it impossible to do otherwise. The only negative comment towards environmentalists was on wolves. Other than a few things like wolves we agreed on almost all things. Even this Canadian fellow who was big on guns, could not figure out what the thing with machine guns in the US was. I love these trips because I learn so much from the people who live closest to the land.
I agree I love this sight, Saker has taught me much! I rarely post because people on this sight are so brilliant that I tend to sit back and just read
Susan, please bring your thoughts and passion to other topics. Your comment is woven from truth. It has so much truth, it is beautiful.
Thank you for such kind words, from someone who I always enjoy and admire
reading
Way to go Susan. You hit all the nails squarely on their heads!
The goal of the rich elites is to keep everyone else divided. They do that on any basis they can find. They keep people divided over race. They keep people divided over gender. They keep people divided over religion. They keep people divided over anything they can. If they can divide people and make them fight, really fight, over Ford vs Chevy, they’ll do it. It doesn’t matter what keeps people divided and fighting each other. As long as they don’t all get together and figure out that they are all slaving away to make the billionaire in his/her mansion even richer.
There is nothing the elites like to see more than us fighting each other.
There is nothing the elites fear more than all of us getting together and fighting them.
If someone wants to serve America, they should go volunteer at a soup kitchen.
These days, it seems like every politician has to say they ‘served their country’. But it would be so much better if they did that with a soup ladle and passing out sandwiches than by going to foreign lands, meeting interesting people, and killing them.
“These days, it seems like every politician has to say they ‘served their country’. But it would be so much better if they did that with a soup ladle and passing out sandwiches than by going to foreign lands, meeting interesting people, and killing them.”
How beautifully said! I second!!
Send armies to feed the homeless and build the wall!!!
Pull out of Syria, Afghanistan, and the other 900 bases around the world. Stop the FEAR propaganda and brainwashing the world with the next “axis of evil”…
LOVE and JOY,
the seagull
Thanks, Susan.
Yeah, this guy has a few useful observations, such as what garners “eyes” on social media. But he doesn’t take it any further, namely, so what? Social media isn’t going to start anything.
And he is off-base in is citation about the poorest in America. Where the heck did he get that?
He talks about the size of their houses.
The poorest don’t have houses. They don’t have a car. They don’t have AC. They have jack s—. Charity and the company of others like them. And, yes, a pretty robust charitable and church infrastructure makes life livable for the indigent. This charitable impulse *and organization* does bespeak perhaps the best in the American soul.
Roth apparently gets none of his knowledge from just strolling around the streets of America and looking around, and talking to people.
I am tempted to make a disparaging comment about the two curls of his hairdo, but that would be petty.
And I do think he makes a good point when he notes that our elections are analyzed in terms of skin color.
But he doesn’t take it any further. Is that because candidates are playing to idnetity politics? Or, the media? Or the pollsters? Why?
I mean, he does make some good points about identity politics and the way the Dems are using them in a fashion that destroys any possibility of dialogue. At the same time there are plenty of conversations taking place where people acknowledge the the old divisions into Republican and Democrat have become meaningless. Again, if Roth took to the streets instead of just listening to old farts at the CFR and their house organ, he would gain some useful insights and he would see that there is no chance of a civil war in the USA in the sense of one group of civvies taking up arms against another. So, why hold a talk about this? To garner eyeballs????
Katherine
Susan,
You are correct stating that “we don’t care for the mentally ill in America. ”
We really owe it to future generations to stop sending them to congress, the white house, and the judicial branch! We must s top patronizing businesses run by mentally ill CEOs, that are abusing and stealing from their customers, and abusing employees, and the environment, and watching, listenning to, and reading news from mentally ill journalsts that are living in a parallel universe.
Those are the psychopaths that belong in mental institutions for life!
Consider this; The left is now the establishment and their divisiveness plays into the divide and conquer strategy of the ruling class. As such, though they think they are doing good, they are the useful idiots of the ruling class. When chaos breaks out, they will not obtain power, and will in fact be the first to be liquidated, because the anger that rises out of their disillusionment will make them dangerous to the ruling class. As such, they can really do no good, especially for the poor and disaffected, whom instead of arming with tool for life, as did the Christians in ministering to the poor, arm them with leftist magical thinking, that if they join the revolution, they will receive mana in the form of wealth redistribution. How did this work out in the Soviet Union? No, they will be crushed and power will reassert itself as happened in the Soviet Union. In the words of Krustiev, “The situation will be normalized “.
I agree with you that this is class warfare. This time it’s the ruling class teaming up with the Post Modern left to crush forever the eternal enemy of the ruling class; the working class, the productive class, the people who do the actual work.
Finally, if Trump was truly part of the ruling class, the corporate media would be singing his praises from the rooftops, not trying to destroy him.
They don’t need to sing his praises from the rooftops but just look at the increasing balance on their accounts
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-economic-agenda-is-exacerbating-americas-inequality-crisis-2018-8?r=US&IR=T
The good news, say EPI economist Lawrence Mishel and economic analyst Jessica Schieder, is that these policies and the negative trends they cause are eminently reversible. They recommend:
Returning to higher marginal income tax rates at the very top of the income scale.
Set corporate tax rates higher for firms that have higher ratios of CEO-to-worker compensation.
Set a cap on compensation and tax anything over the cap.
Allow greater use of “say on pay” practices that truly empower shareholders.
I don’t know how things worked out for the Soviet Union. They had a higher life expectancy than under Yeltsin. I’ve read the some in the Baltics yearn for the old days. Regardless, doesn’t off-shoring jobs result in wealth re-distribution? Doesn’t giving derivatives precedence over savings result in wealth re-distribution? Doesn’t keeping interest rates significantly below inflation result in wealth re-distribution? And ultimately, didn’t abolishing Glass-Steagall result in wealth re-distribution? It’s an old game, sometimes referred to as ‘return on investment’. This is what they’re hoping for in Venezuela.
Right On Susan! I could not have put it any better myself. As a Black Man I never jumped on the Identity politics bandwagon though, of course, I am expected to. Yes, Racism and Patriarchy play a huge role in the system but the over-arching framework is squarely based on class. To the extent that different sections of the masses are tied up with race and gender issues to the exclusion of Class and its inter-play with these issues, then the masses will continue to go down blind political alleys. This is precisely what happened with the Occupy Wall street. The movement stunningly and naively insisted on “no politics” never developing a clear political programme and strategy. Thus, leaving them ripe for co-optation and repression at the hands of the Democratic Party (that graveyard of movements) and the State. Like in the 1930s every failure of the Left moves the clock ticks closer to full blown Fascism. Trump is a manifestation of this. So duh, being Black and female is no bargain but being poor is the ultimate penalty. Lets just hope that one day the only color we’ll be worrying about is yellow; as in Yellow Vests.
A civil war may spark if the U.S. government re-instates the military draft as proposed by House of Representative Charles Rangel.(see: https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/748/text ).
I’ve already explained to my grandchildren that nearly all the wars America has been involved in had nothing to do with defending the U.S.A. They can declare themselves as conscientious objectors.and avoid murdering innocent people by government edict.
Not ‘nearly all’, Poke, but ‘all’- every single one.
this guy is rabid – itchy like nobody’s business because of his nervous condition – and I don’t agree with what he says at 16:20 – where he’s getting into blaming Trump for identity politics and that people are judging and being judged by their skin color –
well, I find myself – a Canadian – but learning very much by watching America and its moves – I find myself APPRECIATING people of colour more and more – for the ‘content of their Character’ – which is what this guy – Jonathon Roth – (what a name) is saying
And you can see from how he dresses and wears his hair – he’s not RIGHT or LEFT – he’s RICH –
That’s the true civil divide in America – in Canada – in England – in Australia – and in poor little KIWI Land –
I personally don’t believe that there will be a true civil war – where everyone takes up arms – no way –
There will be some – in fact there ARE some – that are taking up arms –
And finally – if this guy – Mr Roth – had given this talk AFTER Trump’s SOTU – where the main thing for normal people was his defense of the innocent – babies in the womb –
Would Mr Roth have even mentioned it ?
I haven’t watched the rest of the video – the guy makes me sick – I might try again to watch the end of the same thing over and over – later – but I might find something else MUCH more interesting to focus on.
He’s a Chatham House – Council on Foreign Relations wannabe.
But thanks anyway – Saker – I learn more from you than from anyone else….and have done so for years.
The techno fascists intend to win the war by controlling our access to the banks and payment systems like PayPal etc. , to the means if commerce (credit cards and credit scores plus background checks for employment as well as access to social media for propagation of ideas.
No need to fight as it is alreadyin the bag. It is costing Roger Stone 2 million dollars to defend himself. And he has notoriety to draw on for support.
Sign of the Beast- without which you shall not be able to buy in the market place.
Interesting
Correction:
The poorest americans do not have multiple TVs etc. as Roth asserts
The poorest Americans live on th estreets and have ZIP.
OK, maybe a grocery cart and a sleeping bag.
Certainly NOT health care! Where has Roth been sticking his head???
Even hundreds of thousands of working and middle-class Americans barely have health care.
If I were not on Medicare I would not have health care.
Under Obamacare the premiums, or the co-pays, are too high for many and so they don’t go to the doctor.
Then there is the high number of people addicted to opioids, spreading asocial behavior and problems arouind themselves and their families.
I think Roth is really off base in his assessment of the bottom line of “the poorest.”
BUT in a way it doesn’t matter becuase I think it has been pretty well established that the most abjectly poor are not those who can mount any kind of rebellion or revolution. It is people on the the way up or on the way down, or threatened in their life style, who are most vulnerable to demagoguery. A word that I have yet to hear Roth utter. And this is where the military will come into it. If there is a civil war(which I doubt) it will be fought by military units and police etc., not by civilians. I.e., if civilians start getting unruly they will be put down and controlled jjust like the Giletks Jaunes in France. The civil war will be between civilians and their supporters and the military and their backers. And at this point it looks like the left with its Antifa goons will be supporting the military against the rest.
katherine
One other little thing:
Roth mentions who will be fighting whom and mentions Hispanics.
Is he too nervous to say: Will the Jews be one of the attacied groups?
Because, we all know that Jews tend to be the most outspoken of the “leftists” who put down on working-class whites.
Real leftist sdo not abuse workers. Fake ‘Leftists’ ie DNC crypto-Republicans, loathe working people but pretend otherwise. But in power they rule for the elite and against the rest, just like the Republicans. Republicans do nothing for the bottom 90% but incite the worst excesses of false class consciousness, ‘Exceptionalist’ xenophobia and aggression and various racist, sectarian and misogynistic prejudices. They’re classic ‘Divide and Rule’, ‘lick up, kick down’ tactics.
Historically yes, but consider the effect the tea party movement had on the Republicans. It forced them to open up to the working class while the Dems abandoned the working class. It’s quite complex, but the world is in chaos because every thing is the opposite of what it’s supposed to be these days.
I don’t think it makes sense to refer to the Tea Party as a party of the working classes. Their agenda has been based on lower taxation (in practice, for the rich) from their founding. As such, they received initial financial support from David Koch’s Americans for Prosperity. Given that orientation, their support base tends to be relatively higher income.
It is true that the Tea Party has working class supporters, but the Republican party has always had a grass roots component. Primarily from the post desegregation South which went from 100% support of the Democratic Party to 100% support of the Republicans. The other grass roots constituents of the Republicans were social conservatives, such as blue collar Catholics who were against abortion (the Reagan Democrats), military families and the Christian Right.
The Tea Party and Trump are Trojan Horses that are intended to fool ignorant and gullible losers into thinking that giving trillions more to the rich will ‘trickle down’ to the plebs. In reality it does, of course, gush up to the rich, and the only ‘trickle’ the proles receive is when the parasitic elites micturate on them. But USAnians are so thoroughly brainwashed, from birth, by the fakestream media, PR, advertising and ‘entertainment’, that they still believe that, one day, somehow, they’re ‘gunna make it’, and join the rich in their Heavens. One of ‘democracy’s great strengths, in its true role as guarantor of elite rule and parasitism, is that, by definition, 50% of the populace is of below median intelligence, and that media continues to drift ever lower in absolute terms.
Unfortunately, hackers have prevented me from watching videos, so I wasn’t able to watch it. Juat when you think that things can’t get any worse, they get worse! Civil war now on top of everything else! I will sit this one out too. I can only guess that the rest of the world would be happy, if Americans were fighting each other, rather than invading their countries and fighting them.
If anyone happens to have the text of the video, I would really appreciate it!
Andrea,
Click the YouTube name and go to the YouTube site of this video. Bottom far right below the video are three dots for “more”. Click the 3 dots and Open Transcript. Right of the Page is where the Transcript forms. You can move the video all the way to the end and get the entire transcript, highlight it and copy it to Word or some Notes app and read it. Here’s a sample.
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is Jonathan Roth he handles large
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television projects for various
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broadcast corporate and NGO clients mr.
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Roth
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spent over a decade as a producer at
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major television corporations like Bell
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media and Roger Media mr. OTT produced
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long format conversations with
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individuals such as such as former
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Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper
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former Mexican President Vicente Fox
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former Canadian Prime Minister Kim
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Campbell Prince Edward and author Salman
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Rushdie mr. Roth has also worked on
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camera interviewing people such as
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former zimbabwean President Robert
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Mugabe albanian prime minister
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and former british columbian premier
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Gordon Campbell mr. OTT will today talk
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mr. ladies and gentlemen please give a
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warm welcome to mr. rod thank you
thanks. If I could access youtube, that could work. Unfortunately, I can’t.
There are no civil wars,
only Organized Crime Syndicate staged civil wars.
http://www.rothmultimedia.com/?page_id=2
As Frida said, to Diego, when he told her easel painting was not in vogue anymore: “F..k the Propaganda”.(MOD Edit)
This guy is definately not passing the Constitutional Muster. Every State needs to organize a Grand Jury. A Constitutional Convention is past due.
Yes Scalia got a pillow that suffocated him to death for standing, as the first US Citizen, in a Constitutional Convention Revolution. Much has now been the “brushfire” in our minds, “Thomas Jefferson”, to birth the “Bloodless Revolution”. The so called Zionists want lots of humans dead. Georgia Guidestones raised the number of human beings to get rid of.
In our minds imagine a spiral motion. Our mind is in every cell of the body. More cells equal or greater than stars in the universe.
Dreamers dreaming dreams, the future is a vision to be what we imagine. F..k the propagandists too.(MOD Edit)
Thanks Saker for your verve in the unseen and seen. You clearly are a conductor, in the music of a great symphony, playing the universe’s balance in time.
Great comments, I appreciate the faith, sincerity and trust in imagination OUR true power.
In Haiti, sewage runs through the streets. In America, sewage runs over the airwaves of television, radio, and mainstream news media websites. How long people will tolerate the foreign occupations, wars, corruption, and human rights violations right here in America by governments at the local, state, and federal level, in addition to corporate corruption is unclear. Things are so crazy here it is truly mind boggling. Society is entirely disfunctional. As for the American establishment, I guess that a fitting slogan would be we pretend to work, and we pretend to care, rather than the old Soviet ” We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us.” I’m not sure how true that was, but that is what we were told in America.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/protests-in-haiti-like-frances-yellow-vests-threaten-oligarchic-structure/255009/
There are places in the usa that now have sewage running in the streets, We have tent cities under over passes. In our city all our police do is chase these victims of the american elite, we have people who drive down our neighborhood street going 50mils per hour yet our cops are arresting people who really dont mind because it gives them a bed and a warm place to sleep. Our county jail is broken in 2 1/2 is designated for the mentally ill!
Bill gates just thinks we dont understand why 70% tax rate on him and his clan is a good thin
They are slowly doing to us what they have done to Hati and all the other countries around the world. American I fear are like frogs in boiling water.
Truly astonishing what this country has devolved into!
Real Soviet joke- ‘Everything they told us about socialism was wrong, but everything they told us about capitalism was true’.
What are the roots of the civil war? Amazingly, it would appear to be the result of a Soviet time bomb planted in the University’s during the Cold War. Yuro Bezmanov, a Soviet KGB defector explains in this 1980s interview. I urge everyone to take a few minutes to watch this. It is mind blowing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA&t=313s
There are several much longer segments by him on utube you can enlighten yourself with.
What are the roots of the civil war? Amazingly, it would appear to be the result of a Soviet time bomb planted in the University’s during the Cold War.
That video must be true. Americans are never responsible for things going wrong in America.
Well, I would argue that America’s unpopular post war imperial adventures, and the creeping totalitarianism of the cold warriors made significant contributions. That and the greed and arrogance of the ruling class. Freedom and Liberty were made into slogans for neoLiberalism while the working and middle class were strip mined. Trump came to power because average Americans absolutely despise the ruling class. It’s interesting because it’s class warfare, but among Trump supporters there is no Marxist flavour. Equally AOC is a total Marxist and she also has popular support. The ruling class is working hard to dump her, as they are working hard to dump Trump. So yeah, America is responsible for its own problems but I would blame the ruling class not the population at large.
That’s a very Marxist interpretation, just sayin’.
Marx understood the true nature of capitalism as well as anyone who came before him, or since. He even had presentiments of how capitalism would destroy the planet’s ecology, and was aware of those who saw that future, our present reality, clearly.
Dear readers, Beijing Expat and Peter from Oz, have a look at this video of George Reedy regarding Vietnam, Johnson and Status Quo Ante, on David Hoffman’s YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC4ErF0j-pM
In that video, he described what he saw and experienced at the presidential level but even more important, this: tell the “long-nose” what he wants to hear to make him go away. If you expand that idea to tell the “long-nose” what he wants to hear to profit from him, that can serve as a piece of the puzzle into understand certain things.
Regarding Yuro Bezmanov, a Soviet KGB defector, and even those billionaires that pillaged Russia now living in the west. Telling what Uncle Sam wants to hear so that they stay useful and get to keep the $$$.
I know nothing about this “Q”, but from Peter’s description of “Q”, I am suspect that “Q” is an instrument to give hope to Trump supporters and make them vote for the deep state in 2020. Telling Trump supporters what they want to hear. If Trump or those reportedly in conflict with the deep state really wanted to save their republic, they simply could at one of those huge rallies, with Trump on live-TV, simply say it out to unbelievable effect.
Why most of NATO went along with US regarding Venezuela? Tell the long-noses what they want to hear to make him go away (for awhile) regarding increasing NATO spending, or to get some perks.
Why Israel does what it does to Palestine and Syria and gets near unconditional support? Tell the long-noses what they want to hear (Iran this, Hezbolla that, terrorists here) and do what they want to happen (steal land, Jerusalem, oil, gas and prevent the formation of Palestine).
Now regarding Roth’s speech, I get the impression that he is simply telling those part of the media machine and elites that there probably will not be a civil war, and not to over do stuffs that might actually provoke incidents of violence that might actually trigger a civil war, which obviously will stop their gravy train and prestige.
Cobblers-to be generous. John Birch Society agit-prop.
It was an interesting talk but the 30 comments here (at time of my having watched it) are more insightful and I agree with them more than Mr Roth.
However, $22Trillion Federal government debt, can’t fully recall but something like $160Trillion in unfunded future pensions and other welfare liabilities, and according to Catherine Austin-Fitts and economics professor, Mark Skidmore, and his team of PhDs – an astonishing $21Trillion missing money from the DoD and HUD departments over the past two decades. Add to that massive household, student and car loan debts, half a nation living on credit cards (plural) and (two or more part-time unskilled job) pay checks to pay checks….
All a nation of debtors needs for societal chaos is another financial crisis that can’t be bailed out because the bailout of the rich banksters happened a decade ago and is woven into the current public debt.
Particularly when China, Russia, Iran, India, Venezuela and others have started de-dollarising… The ‘Fed’ can’t print and inflate away the debt if loss of reserve currency status means Zimbabwe style hyperinflation.
So Roth is correct on that scenario- economic collapse as civil war trigger.
But (if the mods allow) I’d like to suggest that readers take the ‘Q-anon’ phenomenon seriously – at least research it and make up your own minds. From following it in depth since soon after ‘Q’ started posting in late October 2017, I’ve witnessed 100s of ‘Q proofs’ – that the Q phenomenon is not some ‘crazy racist xenophobic right wing conspiracy theory you’d be mad to believe and shamed to look at’ as Bezos’ Washington Post and the monolithic mainstream media shrillly shout. Rather it represents a faction at least of high level Pentagon military DIA intelligence involving LtGen Michael Flynn (who blew the whistle on Obama administration support for the rise of ISIS as mechanism for Syrian govt overthrow aka ‘regime change’).
The narrative of Q is that of a split in the US elites between the nationalists and the globalists. The globalist corporatocracy own the media so the nationalist faction adopted an online means of informing the public.
The ‘Q drops’ (posts on 8 Chan forum) have proven highly predictive and sophisticated over the past 15 months and confirmed 100s occasions by Trump repeating messages of Q posts in speeches and tweets, down to identical and sometimes symbolic spelling errors.
See https://www.qproofs.com
The Q message overall is of a faction of the elite wishing to save the nation at the expense of empire and ultimately bring the legions home before the collapse happens. It is also if avoiding WW-III which Q says the globalist imperial (expand empire at expense of nation) puppet Hillary would’ve likely unleashed. It talks of ending the globalist criminal syndicates that profit from war, coups, chaos and resulting trade in weapons, drugs, human and child’s sex-trafficking and organ-harvesting.
I watched as Q said Trump would create a smokescreen of war-mongering talk about North Korea to fool the globalists while behind the scenes work for peace on the Korean peninsular. Or when Q predicted a suicide false flag bombing in lower Manhattan the next week but it would only be fireworks not a real large bomb (as the good intel ops had infiltrated the Deep State/CIA intel) and the terrorist would be from Bangladesh – and it transpired as such in Times Square.
Not that this nationalist faction is wholly for democracy for all. They seem keen on regime changing Venezuela as much as the globalists- perhaps the Monroe doctrine still applies for a certain amount of USA exceptionalism, just not going to try for full spectrum domination of whole world. And maybe, looking at that debt mountain, they want Venezuelan oil.
The ‘Q proofs’ were flowing at Trump’s MAGA rally in El Paso the other night as he peppered his speech with Q phraseology, made a Q sign in the air, pointed emphatically at a woman with a Q sign on her blouse, and timed tweets echoing Q posts to within a minute.
See: http://www.qmap.pub
Or listen to ‘In Pursuit of Truth’ or ‘X22Report’ or ‘Stroppy Me’ on YouTube.
There’s also nothing racist or xenophobic about Q, despite what the WaPo, NYT, BBC et al. claim.
The other thing is Q indicates that a faction based around the Pentagon DIA and the NSA approached Trump years ago to run for president. Needed a billionaire who was at least partly independent of the Deep State and had the balls and elephant hide personality to tackle the globalist power elites and secret societies- as Newt Gingrich said on TV the establishment hate Trump “because he hasn’t done the rituals”.
Q refers to the CIA as the key organ of the Deep State and globalist corporatocracy and calls them ‘Clowns In America’ or ‘C_A’ (lacking intelligence), which shows the level of animosity between the agencies.
So it seems a rather covert civil war is already well underway.
I’d be interested in The Sakers view of the syntax Q uses as it seems a military intel manner of communication and how to hint at classified material without breaking the law.
Didn’t watch the video, but from the comments…………..he’s Canadian? Perhaps I should watch (not), the hot air would be appreciated this cold, cold winter morning. That said, chances are, he’s just another red coat policy wank. Fomenting divide and rule………….standard slimy Brit agitprop.
Check out the SNC Lavilin affair. Where Canada sent war planes to Lybia to commint war crimes to coverup the Corperate Crimes being commited by Canadians in Lybia
Which corporate crimes? SNC Lavelin working cooperatively with the Qadaffi government, including paying bribes, prior to 2011?
Civil War needs definition. I say that it is defined as a violent contest for control of the State. This, of course, has a sub rosa ongoing history…the numerous political murders, including Lincoln, and (probably) FDR and certainly JFK and so on.
And the US has a long history of violence generally against its own peoples…the lynchings, the genocides, the vast prison population, Shay’s “Rebellion”…and Waco and on and on, not to mention the farce of 9-11.
However, for succession the term “civil war” does not fit. The so-called “civil war” was a war of Northern Federal aggression. Today one might say “war of Atlanticst aggression”.
Yes, there is now little or no unifying Mythos or Logos to glue together the bits. As the inflation goes wild and people see that they have little or nothing left to lose, then violence follows. And the econo-boffins say a severe inflation is proximate.
It’s dissolution and succession, not civil war…of course that’s almost sure to be violent, so they’ll call it “civil war”.
In the metaphysics it seemed to me several years ago that “condition R” was the reality.
Revolution and succession and betrayal form the triumvirate structure we, alas, must witness.
He lost me towards the end, with “… when [Yugoslavia] split up…”
As we know, it didn’t “split up”. It was violently dissected by NATO aggression and bombing.
Rebellion, civil war, revolution and so on are not the same things. The US has had civil war, that is violent conflict to gain and hold control of the State. An example would be the coup of November 1963.
The so-called civil war of 1860’s was a war of aggression, not a civil war.
Rebellion always exists sub rosa. This has filled a vast gulag system.
But revolution, “Condition R” comes when things don’t work. As that condition grows to near universal, when the inflation makes pensions worthless and the stores provide nothing, when the lights go out and there’s no fuel – then people act to find new ways to live. That is revolution.
In the present, today, in the US, we see “Condition R” as proximate.
“They” will call this by some other name. Quite possibly something such as : “Russian-backed insurgency”. Nevertheless, it’s close to Condition R already, <3 days away if the lights go out.
Roth asks important questions, such as who would lead and why would we be fighting.
Why would we be fighting?
As Roth says, when a situation has become tense, then all it takes is ne shot. There are many situations developing that would bring all Americans to a state of hostility. The growing dollar instability, peak oil, climate changes, food insecurity, political instability and a beleaguered middle class are the main ones that readily come to mind.
The strength of the dollar is based on events in the past and maintained by military prowess. We do not currently manufacture enough real goods to justify our dollar and our military is over extended and misused to the point where all our forces can do is bomb some smaller nation into chaos, and only if Russian air defenses are not operational. When the dollar cannot pay for enough luxuries or worse, enough necessities and fuel and food, then our population becomes unstable.
Peak oil became Plateau oil only because excess dollars with nowhere good to invest allowed fracking to appear to be viable. EROEI is too low to maintain this fraud. When oil supplies decrease, it will be interesting, and educational, to see which parts of the country start to receive inadequate supplies. The idiot Democrats will try to keep their constituencies in non-food producing cities inner cities mollified. One hopes that Trump will garner support of Republicans to make sure that flyover country, where food is grown, receive enough oil and propane to plant crops, grow crops, dry crops, and bring crops to market.
The climate is changing. The common perception that change will be gradual is completely wrong. The average change over a period of years may be small, but the effects will occur as they have always done, jumping from one quasi-stable system to the next. The jumps will be in the form of unprecedented heat waves, rainfall, and droughts. The only effect that will be gradual will be sea level rise, but it only takes six inches or so for Miami to become financially unstable. Expect population shifts that overwhelm formerly stable communities.
Our population is quasi-stable only because we have enough food. Sort of. Without the addition of phosphates and nitrogen to the soil, made possible through phosphate mining that will peak in 2030, and the Haber-Bosch process fueled by methane natural gas, that will peak about now, all the arable land on our planet could feed perhaps 4 billion people. Thus we have an excess population of (7.7-4 =) 3.7 billion. Inefficiencies, declining rainfall in temperate areas, the need to preserve natural areas to preserve our planet wide biome, politics, greed, etc make the real sustainable population around 1 billion. James Lovelock thinks it is about half that. Look to your left, look to your right, two of you have to go. Now look at the next group of three_reduced_to_one, between you and he, one of you has to go. This is called civil war.
Recognizing the preceding, our elite thinkers are trying to create an underclass of non-whites to enable them to survive. Once this is widely accepted, fringe groups will be eliminated by the most formidable warrior class, AKA Northern Europeans. This is called political instability.
Someday, without warning, a grass roots movement of middle class will decide they don’t care about slavery, native Americans, immigrants or guilt.
Who would lead?</b?
Any one of the tens of millions in flyover country. Like the DNA in Jurassic Park, this would be an organic development that no amount of media spin could control or influence or even foresee.
PS I am interested in Larchmonter's reaction to this post.
James we now know, from paleo-climate research and observations of geological and hydrological evidence, that in the past (the fairly recent past in geological terms)that global average temperatures have increased by two or three degrees Celsius in the span of just one or two decades. And that occurred after climate forcings considerably less marked and rapid than the recent increase in atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations.
It has been plain, for fifteen to twenty years, that even the most ‘pessimistic’ IPCC Reports were grossly understating the dangers of anthropogenic climate destabilisation. This was caused by the need to achieve ‘consensus’ with fossil fuel controlled rogue regimes, like Saudi Arabia and Austfailia, where fossil fuel loot is plainly valued more highly than the lives of all our children, a situation that is inevitable when countries are ruled by Evil psychopaths.
While the Evil and criminality of the parasitic capitalist elites is undeniable, and will, inevitably, get its just desserts, soon, the cowardice, impotence and dishonesty of the scientific elites is also despicable. They should have been shouting, marching, getting themselves arrested etc, for at least the last ten years, in order to attempt to wake up the plebs. But they are only doing so now, and being outdone by children, unsurprisingly, who can see that they will be the victims of the ecological Holocaust. The cowardice of the ‘moderate’ scientific community, with their guff that we will, somehow, muddle through, that it is not too late and that if we just get the ‘price signals’ right, we can leave it all to the Holy Market, is just as responsible for our fate as the outright omnicidal psychopathy of the denialist industry.
Mulga,
RE: Powers that be.
Their incapacity to understand, and it takes a bit of mental power, that they do not have, to grasp the magnitudes of the changes in store for us, is matched only by their willingness to not understand.
Re: Scientists
They speak a different language, and say things like, “The possibility of ice sheet collapse was omitted because we can’t quantify it yet.” Meaning, “Oh Shit! It may be a lot worse, but we can forecast only with accuracy these smaller effects.”
Plus, you have to factor in that scientists are still learning. Once upon a time they read ice cores from Greenland and saw evidence of ice sheet collapse on the span on hundreds of thousands of years. Then they got smarter and recognized that the same ice cores also showed ice sheet collapses on the span of thousands on years, then hundreds, then finally tens. Yet, they will be faulted for stating their first impressions and their final impressions, as if it was all a simple problem with an easy to identify answer. I do not fault the scientists. It is they who have given us the information we need. I would fault political groups that have ruined our MSM’s ability to tell us all the truth, namely Big Oil and Zionists, but wait, if MSM told everybody the truth, we would all be trying to crowd into Vermont. So there.
Vermont? You like the sub-tropics, do you? Try Baffin Island, I’d say.
I don’t know anything about this guy, but going by what he said in this video, it’s obvious he’s a Plutocrat PR man tasked with directing attention to culture wars with statements such as “When you lose your religion, you die”. (Note, this is a belief shared by some Saker writers, but not by myself. The historical truth is religious majorities are often goaded into killing heathens. Zealously religious Europeans and North Americans should, but refuse, to believe what is true.)
He also fails to mention the large and ever growing percentage of Americans employed in the “service” industries, unable make ends meet on one or more McJob salaries, while asserting he “doesn’t know of if the economy is growing or not”. He seems mealy mouthed as he is ignorant.
I also don’t recall, correct me if I’m wrong, any mention of the lunacy and expense of always losing in the US’ permanent state of unprovoked, multi-trillion dollar offensive war, and the financialization of the US economy. These two strategic, economic and deliberate f-ups block all efforts towards rebuilding the intentionally destroyed real economy, and helping what he deems spoiled poor people with cars, phones and lots of square footage in their rental units, back on their feet.
Like all American culture warriors, he is just repeating very tired neo-con(federate) BS about single mothers and Jesus.
He also asserts Trump is not dumb. But there is no correlation between intelligence, and being able to play dumbed-down American voters, or living well off inherited wealth, multiple bankruptcy scams, and the backs of unpaid employees.
Having lived in Texas for the first twenty seven years of my life, it is obvious to me he spent a little too much time internalizing the zealous and malicious belief system Texans force feed into its population. His grip on reality is as weak as his employers’: the plutocrats and “security” mafias which deliberately provoked the current unrest in the US, and who actually think the New Zealanders they plan to impoverish are going to tolerate them.
This wonderful writer and wordsmith of the English language sums it up perfectly:
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/02/13/is-it-too-late-for-nonviolent-means-to-restore-american-liberty/
Great defeats generally bring great change and all those things that come from Changes…
D. Orlov has an essay @ http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51097.htm that includes this gem:
“It won’t be a difficult decision for Europe’s leaders to make. On the one pan of the scale there is the prospect of a peaceful and prosperous Greater Eurasia, from Lisbon to Vladivostok and from Murmansk to Mumbai, safe under Russia’s nuclear umbrella and tied together with China’s One Belt One Road.”
He makes a reasoned argument, with which I might agree, that the US must surrender – that the war is decided. Well, in a sense the war between USSR and Germany was decided in 1942 0r perhaps ’43, but it took awhile for the general realization… So, similarly, this war may be decided, but that’s not enough to stop the murders, is it?
” The only acceptable exit strategy for the US is to quietly and peacefully surrender its positions around the world, withdraw into its own geographic footprint and refrain from meddling in the affairs of Greater Eurasia.”
But he sticks to his topic and does not address the consequences for the US of such an act.
Now then, assuming the patterns of History rhyme again, a surrender on such a scale is liable to force a revolution…as most of the operating social and economic systems would cease to function for the US population. If things don’t work, then people find new ways – that’s Change, and Change creates revolution.
It is not “civil war”. It’s succession, dissolution, probably regionalization, revolution, and there will surely be considerable foreign involvement.
Pathetic. “A republic, if you can keep it.” they say Franklin said that… The republic died long ago… If it had not, then we’d not be looking at such an ignominious end.
the beginning of the end was when FDR sanctioned the FED. it has ended as a Republic with the Bill of Rights being annulled not too long ago. We can end this by voting in Congress to close the FED: without bloodshed by the masses. End the FED
I think we`re looking at a Revolution in that we are still being oppressed by the Banks of England, via wall street and the FED. Trump just “found” some money from “another source” which means the FED will simply print more money. The US dollar is practically worthless because of printing with nothing to back it up.Our argument is not between ourselves as the common worker, it is between us and the Banksters same as during the American Revolution of 1775 and the oppression of the same Rothchild banks we are experiencing still.
Historic lessons and pattern very strongly suggest that no “ending” can occur by voting or any other means. It’s not a situation amenable to correction any more than a fall from a cliff can be stopped once begun.
When circumstances create the necessity of Revolution by making it impossible to continue life as before, then there can be no reason to attempt repairs. Revolutionaries are never repairmen. The systems have failed because the world has changed. see http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/rats-public-defecation-and-open-drug-use-our-major-western-cities-are-becoming-uninhabitable-hellholes
It’s over, amigo. Condition R cannot be reversed, ever.
The murder of FDR ushered in a Policy Coup. JFK was a “correction” (according to Bush 41 I think)…the Policy Coup of 2001 following a fraudulent “election” (Gore won) was another “correction”…and here we are neck-deep in the Big Muddy…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXnJVkEX8O4
You may be correct ,but in all good conscience I must endeavour to hold up my end of the social contract by striving for the Light. It`s important to realise the steps that were taken to dismantle the Constitution and the Republic, so to be able to back track on them, as well as the economy: Bretton Woods Act; Glass Steagle Act (which were both put in place to prevent the Banks from going amok) repealed by unscrupolus bankster lobbyists; the FED which needs to be eliminated (they can`t print money fast enough to keep ahead of the national debt).
All this may be too little too late, but it`s enough to keep it in mind so future generations don`t scrap the Constitution as a whole as being insufficient: it`s a beautiful piece of work. The evil doers will fall into their own abyss soon leaving the rest to clean up the mess. The US constitution is the Holy Grail to raise out of the ashes a new beginning for an old hope of Freedom with Compassion. “To live outside the “Laws” of today, you must be Honest.”
Unfortunately, there are many that resort to attempt to divide and conquer in America, hoping for a break so that they can assume power, these are wolves in sheeps clothing. since they are incapable of offering a uniting solution that works for all. They are strictly concerned with elevating themselves, and hoping that the masses will topple the U.S. regime so that they can take more control than they already have in an oportunistic power grab.
When we have many prominent individuals in America calling anyone who dares to question the Israeli blood and soil policies anti-Semetic, and manynof these individuals are the most vocally divisive, notbto mention, entirely hypocritical and engaging in circular logic.
They do not even distinguish the difference between a religion and a country, referring to Representative Omar as a hypocrit for slamming the glaringly obvious power of the American
Israel lobby, not the American Jewish lobby, the American Israel lobby, which has attempted to silence and discredit the above Jewish journalists and Jewish Voice for Peace. These propagandists claim that since Rep. Omar recieved donations from the California Pac CAIR that she is a hypocrit. The fact that Rep. Omar criticized the Islamic Republic of Iran speaks volumes of the difference between Rep. Omar, and the bennefactors of the American Israel lobby! They are too blinded by their own lies too see the truth!
Are we to believe that Mearshemeir, Walt, Max Blumenthal, Alex Rubenstein, Seymore Hersh, Norman Finkelstein, Noam Chomsky, and scores of others are all anti-Semetic?
As far as offering a solution to the Israeli Palsetinian occupation that would satisfy all,the bismal reality is that there is none. Only a delusional moron would believe that they can solve that while living in America! With that in mind, in the very least, we should stop elevating, financing, and fighting for the demonic polices of the israeli governent, and publicly denounce them! As Americans, our concern and focus should for resolving the extreme abuse and corruption right here in America!!
Does congress, the Whit House, CIA, and military realize that they will now probably be under investigation for supporting anti-Semetic aukranian NeoNazis now?
Acoording to congress:
“(3) DUTIES.—The Special Envoy shall serve as the primary advisor to, and coordinate efforts across, the United States Government relating to monitoring and combating anti-Semitism and anti-Semitic incitement that occur in foreign countries.
(b) Nomination.—Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and not later than 120 after any such position becomes vacant, the President shall nominate the Special Envoy for Monitoring and Combating anti-Semitism under section 59 of the State Department Basic Authorities Act of 1956, as amended by subsection (a) of this section.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/221/text
Passed the House of Representatives January 11, 2019.
“(10) Anti-Semitism has at times taken the form of vilification of Zionism, the Jewish national movement, and incitement against Israel.”
http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:22%20section:2731%20edition:prelim)#sourcecredit
If congress and Netenyahu are delusional enough to believe that as a Christian, I would be willing to forfeit my 1st amendment rights for relgious freedom, to spread the word of Christ, and my rights to free speech and free press, to support the Satanic Blood and Soil policies of the Israeli government that are in defiance of Jewish Mitzfah laws even, let them crucify me, and burn in hell!
Why hasn’t the ADL and the Southern Poverty Law Center labeled AIPAC as a white supremist hate group? That is clearly what it is, to the point that they lobby for murder of non-Jews!
Are you kidding? Allow me to rephrase.
“Why hasn’t the political wing of AIPAC devoted to marginalizing middle class whites and the political wing of AIPAC devoted to cuckolding anyone who criticizes AIPAC come out against the group (AIPAC) that is basically a virus infecting the head of state?”
AIPAC is a prion that has infected the entire US political pathocracy, leading to ‘Mad Sabbat Goy’ disease, where the brain is reduced to the texture of Swiss cheese. The victims become zombified, but still can follow orders and turn on any Badthinkers, like Ilhan Omar, with savage fury, in an attempt to impress The Boss.
Not only are Chomsky, Blumenthal, Hersh and Rubenstein ‘antisemites’, but they are also ‘self-hating Jews'[.
Roth’s presentation is as phony as a three dollar bill. He’s simply kissing the posteriors of corporatists.
From RT:
“Hey everyone,
The almighty @TheAtlantic has put out this in-depth report to let you know that Russia invented corruption.
Then after the fall of the USSR, it spread to the US. So until recently there was no corruption in America.
DAMN RUSSIAAAAAANS!!!https://t.co/0L37TsczYZ
— Lee Camp [Redacted] (@LeeCamp) February 8, 2019″
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/451286-xenophobia-russians-pc-culture/
“This post is stunningly explosive as the changes in America since the end of WW11 are shown in it. All of them!
The US civil war is being fought today,9/11 was US supported.” America is dissolving today just as Rome: the US CIA being those mad hordes
I can only speak for myself in stating that daily life in America is nothing short of a traumatic experience of misery and suffering. Listenning to the daily barage of lies spewed out by national leaders and journalists was literally unbearable. I disconnected my TV, and don’t read establishment preferred websites or news papers. Talk radio is definitely equally disturbing, for its total lack of objectivity.
I am unable to leave my house, even to walk around the block without it being broken into with things vandalized and stolen, have had 5 devices destroyed by hackers, my smart energy meter has been hacked and someone has seized control of appliances and lights by remote control attempting to gas light me, and am being tortured with microwave audio effect equipment.
Every institution and organization, and governments at the local, state, and federal level are totally corrupt, self-serving and abusive.
The most disturbing thing is that taking all of that into consideration, I am one of the lucky ones. We have millions in jails and prisons for petty charges, and the highest prison population on earth, 72,000 drug overdose deaths last year, and a rampant homelessness and poverty epidemic.
I seriously question if anyone has the energy to fight a civil war. People are beating the odds if they can even survive through the day at this point!
Barring the fact that one might have a ‘smart appliance’ or gadgets belonging to the ‘internet of things’, but in my house you have to physiclly turn on all gadgets at the switch, I’d expect the same for ‘most’ people. You can’t remote control a swith unless it is designed for remote control. That simple. Should you have lights turning on and off by themselves, get a competant electriction to investigate and if that fails, a priest for an exorcism.
Check out https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/02/13/is-it-too-late-for-nonviolent-means-to-restore-american-liberty/
The process of overthrow in Venezuela may presage events in other places, such as in the US itself.
G. Palast describes a racial contest in V https://truthout.org/articles/in-venezuela-white-supremacy-is-a-key-driver-of-the-coup/
I disagree, as race seems more like the custom than the driving reason, but Palast may be right, and I may be wrong.
This “quote” (which may be apocryphal) seems, somehow, worth recalling:
“Don’t be taken in when they paternally pat you on the shoulder and say that there’s no inequality worth speaking of and no more reason to fight because if you believe them they will be completely in charge in their marble homes and granite banks from which they rob the people of the world under the pretense of bringing them culture. Watch out, for as soon as it pleases them they’ll send you out to protect their gold in wars whose weapons, rapidly developed by servile scientists, will become more and more deadly until they can with a flick of the finger tear a million of you to pieces.” attribution > Jean-Paul Marat