In this was I was mistrusting the YPG, because I see them as opportunistic and the propaganda towards them in Western media (so democratic, so assambly-running, so “multiethnic”…) was suspicious. Also they had USA help. Also, they are the “way od escape” or the “excuse” for the liberal-leftists which are struck to the faux “two evils” discourse (“No NATO neither Assad”).
In the place I live, Basque Country, it seems that “you have to be with the Kurds, because they are a minorized nation like us”. Damn! Not all “Minorities” are always right, this is not a solid argument!
But in the other hand it is truth that Russia also helped themn and some honest commentators commented them in a positive light. So may be I an wrong.
On press TV they say that there were clashes between the Kurds and some arab militia in the area who are all fighting the Jihadis. The SAA who are also near this area, got caught up in this as they were fired upon, and fired back. The USA got involved threatening the SAA, who ignored them and carried on responding to the attacks on them.
According to Press TV, the Kurds and the arab militias and the SAA are sorting out the issues.
Not sure what the out come is as the USA always manage to stir up trouble
“RT: Images and videos of the ‘Aleppo boy’, as he is being called, have made the rounds on social media, generating all sorts of emotions and responses from viewers. What is your take on the images, which really portray the horrors of war?
Lew Rockwell: Well, this sort of thing, of course, is always used as war propaganda. How many children has the United States killed in its wars that nobody except the families, or those who don’t like these wars, cry a tear over? I remember when Madeleine Albright, the [former] Secretary of State when she was asked about a UN report that US sanctions on Iraq had caused 400,000 children to die and she said, “We think it’s worth it.” A very cold-blooded conniver and murderer, Madeleine Albright… So when you look at that child it’s enough reason not to have war. But this is all intended to cause more war, to cause more deaths of the people supporting [Syrian President Bashar] Assad and to just split up Syria and make sure it’s much more easily controlled and support the terrorists who are Al-Nusrah and the so-called ‘moderate rebels’ who are all Al-Qaeda types. That’s who the US wants to bring to power, and we have to remember what they have threatened – although you won’t read this in the US press – they’ve threatened to ethnically cleanse Syria of all the Christians, of all the Shia, of all the Alewites, which is the small sect that many of the people in the government belong to.
These are very nasty people and showing this child reminds me of the huge propaganda over that poor little child that was drowned in Turkey on the way to Europe… and that was supposed to justify destroying the indigenous peoples of Europe with millions and millions and millions of welfare refugees. So it’s important to look behind these things. When the government wants you to cry over something – a very murderous government – you have to look beyond that and think ‘what are they trying to do, what addition killing are they trying to justify’
RT: What is so different about this little boy pictured in the ambulance and the other Syrian children adversely affected by the horrors of war wracking the Arab Republic?
LR: Well, one difference is that this child is still alive, whereas so many of the Syrian children have been killed, and their parents’ lives are ruined… it’s an eternal hurt for these people; it never goes away. Another thing this child helps us remember – although this is not the lesson the US wants us to take away from it – is that civilians are always massively those killed in war. Sometimes it’s actually safer to be a soldier than a civilian. Children, women, old people, man not in the military are far more the victims of war than the soldiers are. So it’s horrible that this child was injured… but [the Western powers should] stop trying to destroy Syria, stop trying to occupy it, stop promoting the terrorists. That would be a help.
RT: Why has public opinion in the West been so critical of Russian military activities in Syria, which granted Moscow the legal right to target terrorists in the country?
LW: Well, they lie. I’m far from an expert on the military aspects of this and of what the Russians are doing. But it seems to me, from my vantage point anyway, that the Russians are in trouble because they’ve targeted Islamic State [in Syria] and because the US doesn’t want ISIS targeted. The US has found ISIS to be a very valuable – and some say certain parts of US intelligence and other foreign intelligence, has even had something to do with generating ISIS, of bringing it to operational status, of arming it, and so forth. So again, this is the way empires work according to the old Roman saying that you have to ‘divide in order to dominate.’
Empires love division; they love civil wars, they love people fighting each other and then the imperial US comes in to fix everything up.”
“Children in government-controlled Aleppo are experiencing heavy fighting on a daily basis, as the opposition try to retake lost ground. While the Western media’s focus is largely on the suffering in rebel-held areas, RT looks at the other side of the story.
RT’s Lizzie Phelan is reporting from one of only two Aleppo hospitals that are now trying to cope with the inflow of those injured in the fighting. Those seeking help include both soldiers and civilians. So many people require treatment that they are filling up the medical facilities’ corridors.
The rebels now have control of three military academies in the south and have intensified their efforts to bring more territories their under control, Phelan explains. They are trying to get access to the southern road into Aleppo, and they fire at civilian targets from there.
Many children are among those injured. Phelan has spoken with two girls badly hurt by shrapnel from missiles fired from rebel held areas in the city’s south….”
“On Friday, the security services of Azerbaijan reported about a detention of a group of people on suspicion of links to the movement of Gulen.
“All the followers of Gulen movement will be identified. The investigation in relation to it is in progress. The inquiries show that the Gulen movement has links with opposition groups in the country. But all attempts to destabilize the situation in Azerbaijan will be suppressed,” Novruz Mammadov said, as quoted by the Trend news agency.”
Meanwhile, there is some speculation going on of possible use of Incirlik by Russia. A development that would certainly send israel’s western colonies into psychopathological hysterics much worse than the craven sods already currently exhibit.
Turkish Prime Minister Admits Possibility of Use of Incirlik Base by Russia
“Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said Saturday that Russia could possibly use country’s southern Incirlik Air Base if it becomes necessary.
At the same time Yildirim added that there were no need in Moscow’s use of the base, because Russia possessed facilities located in Syria that was not far from Incirlik.
“This information is not correct, but if necessary the Incirlik base could be used,” Yildirim told reporters, answering a question about Moscow’s alleged request for use of the base, as quoted by the Turkish Anadolu news agency.”
Probably just that irresisable urge to goad zionazis into one of those frothing, frenzied panics they are well known for. :D
Regarding the pindo nuke force there, or not there, if the weapons are not there any more, I would guess the weapons were transferred out prior to starting the coup, since the base was locked down fairly quickly. Moving them prior would be a logical precaution to avoid losing any should the coup fail and the Turkish react by occupying the american compound and gain control of these nukes. If it turns out the nukes were moved out prior to the coup, that would be a very convincing indicator the usa was behind the plotters.
The Kurds have a valid gripe. Like all ethnic groups they are looking for their promised land. “Wouldn’t life be perfect if everybody in the land were just like me”. Many ancient ethnicities once again fly their flag around the Med: Greece, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Israel; and deeper inland, Iran – land of the Medes and the Persians. Today’s Kurds (Kutti) are reputed to be descendants of the Medes. So why not Medea? (Call it Kurdistan if you must). Carve it out of the oil rich areas of Syria, Iran and Iraq; while one is about it, carve a little piece of Turkey. Medea would be extremely profitable new state for British Rothschildt (BP), French Rothschildt (Shell, Total) and US Rothschildt (Exxon). Also a hydrocarbon rich Kurdish statelet would be a useful addition to the handful of Rothschildt states in the M.E (Israel in alliance with KSA & Gulf gas-stations). So far, so good.
On the other hand, I do not see the M.E (in its present mood) consenting to yet another “surgical operation” by the armies of FUKUSA. Does anyone think that Syria, Iran, Iraq & Turkey – all fighting to get rid of ISIS – are going to sign consent to having the juiciest parts of their anatomies carved off and stitched together to impose yet another Frankenstein’s monster from FUKUSA in their neighbourhood?
This might seem to be OT but it isn’t. What would happen if many millions of americans found out what we know here of american regime connections to daesh and clinton’s role in these? Also note that Shamir doesn’t leave out israel’s influence behind these american aggressions.
The Scandal That Could End Hillary Clinton’s Campaign
“Russian-Israeli journalist and political analyst Israel Shamir offers his insights on why Trump’s comments about Obama and Clinton being ‘the founders of ISIS’ may just put an end to Hillary Clinton’s White House ambitions.
“Hillary Clinton, the candidate from the Democratic Party for the US presidency, is on easy street, or so it would seem,” Shamir wrote, in a recent op-ed analysis for Svobodnaya Pressa.
“She has the reigning president on her side. She has the New York Times and the Washington Post on her side, along with the national television networks. It might seem that she’s got this election locked up. And that might have been the case, a few years ago; no one would have even heard about her rival, Donald Trump. But now, in the age of networking technologies, things aren’t as easy for her.”
“The gadfly in her Garden of Eden turned out to be Julian Assange, the Australian hacker who has been locked up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London for four years now. First he published the Democratic Party’s email correspondence, showing that its leaders had conspired to get rid of Bernie Sanders. The chair of the party had to resign, and the man who appeared to leak the materials was found dead on a street in Washington. But Clinton proved capable of coming to an agreement with Sanders. He received good money, bought a new house, published a book, and joined with Clinton, calling on his supporters to vote for her.”
“Then,” the journalist noted, “Julian Assange unveiled more of Clinton’s correspondence, declaring that it was Madame Clinton – during her time as Secretary of State, who supplied arms to Daesh (ISIL/ISIS), listed as a terrorist organization both in the US and in Europe. Furthermore, Assange said, she lied under oath when she told the Senate that she does not know anything about the supply of weapons to the terrorists.”
“Assange’s statements could have been silenced, but they were picked up on by Donald Trump. He accused Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama of creating Daesh, of being sympathetic to Daesh and its aims, of leading a phony war against the terrorist group, costing the American taxpayer a great deal of money, and bringing a tidy sum for Mrs. Clinton and her foundation.”
“Michael Mcfaul,” the former US ambassador to Russia, “accused Trump of articulating ‘Putin’s propaganda’. The Pentagon too was indignant; after ten thousand sorties against Daesh (or fifty thousand, according to some sources), they are still being accused of aiding the terrorists! A considerable scandal erupted. But Trump and Assange were right.”
“The supply of weapons to Daesh and its creation happened like this. Secretary of State Clinton was able to convince Barack Obama (who it is said played a passive role in this story) to deliver weapons to the enemies of the governments in Syria and Libya. To this end, a huge cache of American weapons was sold to Qatar. The tiny Persian Gulf principality with a huge budget paid for the weapons and even transferred a large sum into the accounts of the Clinton Foundation. The weapons were sent to Islamist extremists in Benghazi in eastern Libya near Egypt. They were distributed there by small-time Egyptian thugs, and were then used to overthrow Gaddafi.”
“After Gaddafi was toppled, the weapons were sent from Libya to Syria, and to the rebels there. Notably, Clinton and Obama had no doubt that the rebels were Islamist extremists with close ties to al-Qaeda. The top-secret dispatch from the Pentagon said point blank that the Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) militants knew Syria well, and have been fighting against the Assad regime from the outset. Western countries, Turkey and the Gulf monarchies supported their plan to seize eastern Syria, where it would be possible to create a support base like the one that was set up in Benghazi, Libya. And that’s how Daesh emerged in Syria.”
Further, Shamir noted, “Obama and Clinton also contributed to the rise of Daesh in Iraq. While Iraq was occupied by US forces, under President George W. Bush, the Americans created a Shia government in Baghdad, inciting the Sunnis against it; then, under Clinton and Obama, the Americans left, leaving Sunni areas flooded with a sea of small arms and military equipment. All the Islamists had to do was climb into the American Hummers and raise their black flags.”
“Then, according to the dispatch published by Wikileaks, and used by Donald Trump, Daesh received weapons from the US. The arms were theoretically meant to be delivered to the so-called ‘moderate opposition’, but Washington knew that they were falling into the hands of Al-Qaeda [via its Syrian branch, the Nusra Front] and Daesh. The leader of the Daesh militants in Pakistan admitted to having received weapons from the US. And in this Trump was right to accuse Secretary of State Clinton and President Obama. ‘They dream of Hillary Clinton’, Trump said of the terrorist group.”
In other words, Shamir noted, “before our eyes, the secret of the creation of this nest of terrorists and extremists is being revealed. We might have expected this, recalling that in their own time, the US filled Afghanistan with arms and brought the Islamists, along with bin Laden, to power in that country. At that time, Reagan was fighting the Soviet Union. Now, in Syria, Clinton and Obama are carrying out the will of the Israeli lobby, which dreams of eternal war in the Middle East. In Iraq and Syria, Washington is fighting Iranian influence.”
Therefore, Shamir noted, for now at least, “Moscow’s talk of joint efforts with the US against Daesh is just that – talk, even if it is necessary and useful. Not every truth should be laid out immediately, and the Kremlin understands this.”
“Assange has promised to publish additional evidence linking Hillary Clinton to the supply of weapons to Daesh soon, even though a lot has been published already. Then, when this reaches the American electorate, they will yet be able to pull off a November surprise.”
Ultimately, Shamir wrote, “the self-assured Mrs. Clinton and the Democratic establishment is more and more reminiscent of a ‘collective Boris Godunov’ [a Russian tsar in the late 16th century]. They consider themselves to be the anointed kings, and despise not only Trump, but his voters as well – the working and middle class. But more and more, the words of Pushkin come to mind: ‘There may be a great disaster. Such a disaster that Boris will hardly hold the crown on his clever head.'”
The world should do – justifiably – for the Kurds, what the Brits and French did ILLEGALLY for the jews. Give them their ancient home territory. They are a nation. (And if there are valuable natural resources there – so be it.)
[The world should do – justifiably – for the Kurds………………..]
The world should keep its hands off!
If the Kurds want to carve out their own state it is up to them. They should first unite, and then be careful in choosing their allies, because it would not be the first time they have been made false promises.
I live in french canada, Quebec. We would also love independence and have a french Quebec nation. Except that if USA showed up with tons of equipments to ”help us” liberate ourselves from our english neighbor. It would only mean that they seek to take over our country. It would not mean that we could live free and happy forever after.
They lie, they cheat, they obfuscate. Their words are not worth the paper they are written on. They are the government of the United-State.
You need to be liberated from the cruel oppression of your fellow English speaking Canadians?
Give it a rest with the hyperbole and, by the way, I think a majority of Western Canadians would be more than happy to see Quebec as a seperate country. Western Canadians are sick and tired of hearing about decades of Quebec threats to seperate while having to hand over cash for the privilege of being treated with contempt -“les autres” as you call us.
Just do it; enforce visa rules, build a wall to protect yourselves if delusion requires it, stand on your own two feet -it will ultimately be good for you.
I think Quebec should be an independent country and the divorce doesn’t have to be acrimonious. It could result in two friendly countries with a lot of shared history, independent, and yet together. Not some kind of arranged, forced and unwanted marriage.
Overall, in my opinion, Quebec population is much more aware of what is happening between Russia and Ukraine (the Ukrainian lobby here is not as strong) compare to the rest of Canada. Also, in Quebec, it is fairly common to hear discussions about chemtrails and how it all interacts with cellphones, smart-meters and other Orwellian appliances. There is a healthy amount of distrust towards governments and relatively clear understanding of the overall “geo-political” theater. In Montreal I witnessed some demonstrations in which people chanted “if you want to save refugees – you should stop bombing them first”, etc, etc.
Moreover, the whole image of anti-Canadian Quebecois is absolute nonsense; I don’t speak a word of French and I’m always treated here with respect and dignity – not so much in the rest of Canada.
I dont think english canadians are contemptible or cruel. My concern is that the USA would use the genuine aspirations of the kurdish people and do bad things to the Syrian state. Divide and conquer.
Obviously english is not my first language. Forgive my poor choice of words.
One recalls it was Albertans threatening to separate back in the early 1980’s with historical high oil prices on the charts. The subsequent oil glut/price crash however quieted them down noticeably.
Suggesting you speak for Western Canada’s view of Quebec, complete with instructions to that province on how to separate is what is delusional.
Alberta is the USA’s de facto 51st state. Western Canadian attitude has softened as there is currently no major clamour for Quebec separation so in Alberta there are only 51% who would not be saddened by the departure according to this survey:
“The proportion of Albertans who would practically celebrate Quebec’s secession was almost ten points higher (33%).
While it is evident that the number of British Columbians and Albertans who would be saddened by Quebec’s separation is significantly higher (62% for British Columbia, and 49% for Alberta), it was startling to see one-in-four BC residents and a third of Albertans saying they would not be distraught by Quebec’s departure”
I don’t frankly think “Quebec” overall wants independence anyway. If most Quebecois wanted independence they’d have voted for it by now. But in reality, even when there’s a Parti Quebecois, supposedly nationalist, government they never try for a referendum any more because the backing for independence isn’t there.
Basically, what Quebecois wanted was to be the boss of their own house–“Maitres chez nous”. Fair enough. There was a time when Francophone Quebecois were second class citizens in their own province. Incidentally, that’s something Turkish Kurds, for instance, don’t have what with suppression of their language and stuff. But the thing is, after a succession of independence-minded Quebec governments passed a bunch of laws about language and education and having various things run by Quebec (pensions, for instance), turns out Quebecois ARE “maitres chez nous” and so most people don’t give much of a damn any more.
most if they even knew before now have forgotten about the plight of the Kurds inside Turkey, like Cizre there in those “southeastern provinces” (Anatolia) because of the astounding list trying to remember all the names, ethnicities, rival factions, geology (as in oil), geography, past history of migrations, battles, & intermixing.
I went back to find a very key date & event which foresaw all this now breaking out, after the setup, which was clearly the US & France (Putin’s buddies he invited in, remember, NOV/2015) setting up those bases at Rmeilan (US ) & Kobani (1 each by US & France). MARCH 23/2016:
Interesting the US base Rmeilan was finished 2 weeks before this announcement, & they were just starting at Kobani.
The opposition Syrian National Coalition also said it rejected such unilateral declarations and warned against any attempt to form autonomous regions that it said would “confiscate the will of the Syrian people”.
The newly declared region, known as Rojava, consists of three distinct enclaves, or cantons, under Kurdish control in northern Syria: Jazira, Kobani and Afrin.
This would have been an excellent time for Russia to point out forcefully that US military have no right to be in Syria and that they certainly have no right to threaten the Syrian government.
Canthama says:
August 21st, 2016 at 5:41 PM [Level 10 – Cesar]
primus, that is correct. It actually made a lot of sense for the US to do that with the current influence in Iraq and the Turkey doing what they wanted like a slave country. It seems this scenario is changing with Turkey moving into Russia-Iran-China alliance, without Turkey OK to the US any NATO base in Syrian land will be in extremely fragile position. Things will change from now onwards and the Kurds are missing their opportunity to be strong in Syria, they may gain in the short term, battles and additional ground, but on the long run, if they continue with this alliance with NATO, they will lose big time.
Should SDF/YPG storm Hasaka city, there will be a mess, not only Syria forces will get involved, foreign militia will be brought (mostly Iraqis and Hezbollah), but SDF will face air force heads on and the US will not be able to do a thing, and the US does, then this is it, WWIII since confrontation with Russia-Iran is a guarantee.
That is what Hasaka means right now, if it escalates and involve SAA/RG against YPG/SDF, then airforce will be used to bomb convoys etc… then the US will try to protect them and it will place US against Russia over the skies of Syria. It is that simple. Right now this chest fight is very dangerous.
US full airbase in Syria won’t fly without Turkish support, nor of course the Syrian Government, I see those air strips as logistics but not airbase, for a functional airbase, AA is needed and that would be very risky for them to have high tech AA and I can’t see that happening right now.
teevee says:
August 21st, 2016 at 9:28 PM [Level 8 – Legatus Legionis]
Hi Hussain, Yes The Kurdish issue is a subplot of the New Middle east as envisioned by the West. The investment in Kurdistan has been heavy and sustained since 2003 invasion of Iraq. The US and allies will not “let me repeat” WILL NOT walk away from this mess without a Kurdistan firmly on their side. They’re willing to depose their ally in Turkey for the Kurdistan project, they want an ally next door to Iran. They will go to war to save this project. In my opinion the one and only way out, for our side is to infiltrate the Kurds and create divisions internally and make the Americans to have to choose sides, then we can pickup the pieces and have a hostile Kurdish opposition to the US/Israelis and make this project extremely cost inefficient for them. As cruel and inhumane that sounds, it’s that, or an all out war against US/Israel plus NATO. I don’t think anyone wants or needs that, specifically the Russians will not go to war with NATO over Kurdistan nor will Iran, but a covert operation can accomplish a lot more than a hot war. If we know one thing, we know up to now the Iranians have done a hell of job advancing their cause without any all out wars with anyone. And the Kurdistan project is mainly aimed at Iran.
teevee says:
August 21st, 2016 at 9:28 PM [Level 8 – Legatus Legionis]
Hi Hussain, Yes The Kurdish issue is a subplot of the New Middle east as envisioned by the West. The investment in Kurdistan has been heavy and sustained since 2003 invasion of Iraq. The US and allies will not “let me repeat” WILL NOT walk away from this mess without a Kurdistan firmly on their side. They’re willing to depose their ally in Turkey for the Kurdistan project, they want an ally next door to Iran. They will go to war to save this project. In my opinion the one and only way out, for our side is to infiltrate the Kurds and create divisions internally and make the Americans to have to choose sides, then we can pickup the pieces and have a hostile Kurdish opposition to the US/Israelis and make this project extremely cost inefficient for them. As cruel and inhumane that sounds, it’s that, or an all out war against US/Israel plus NATO. I don’t think anyone wants or needs that, specifically the Russians will not go to war with NATO over Kurdistan nor will Iran, but a covert operation can accomplish a lot more than a hot war. If we know one thing, we know up to now the Iranians have done a hell of job advancing their cause without any all out wars with anyone. And the Kurdistan project is mainly aimed at Iran.
About 21 August the US claimed the right to create and did create by these claims a de-facto “no fly zone” in northern Syria where the US evidently has soldiers of both the client type and also directly controlled us troops. The US has “promised” to “defend” this area, which promises to expand.
Today this claim is expanded and repeated.
Some may see this as a direct unlawful occupation under force of arms, which it obviously is. As such it cannot be permitted to continue. This is also obvious.
What is less clear is the best method to effect a change in this situation.
Very generally there are two methods: 1) direct force, liquidation of occupying forces. And, 2) indirect methods. I am at loss to find or imagine an effective indirect method. However limiting re-supply to these forces may be marginally effective, and that is somewhat indirect.
Thus I expect a “throttling” via re-supply.
But I would like to know how others see the problem…
Divide and conquer is the name of the game. Obama lights a fire, then plays golf while the middle east burns.
Looking at the various factions and actors in the area, it is incredibly easy to light a fire, but very hard to put it out.
Obviously the zionazis told their kurd quislings to attack the SAA and told their always groveling pindo gofers to provide them protection. This in an effort to turn around the faltering israel terrorist war against Syria.
The British in reality want a “No Bombing Terrorists Zone”–particularly for those moderate head-choppers and terrorists that the British special forces are embedded with, as suggested by that recent photo of a Britzie soldier illegally operating in Syria.
Hi!
In this was I was mistrusting the YPG, because I see them as opportunistic and the propaganda towards them in Western media (so democratic, so assambly-running, so “multiethnic”…) was suspicious. Also they had USA help. Also, they are the “way od escape” or the “excuse” for the liberal-leftists which are struck to the faux “two evils” discourse (“No NATO neither Assad”).
In the place I live, Basque Country, it seems that “you have to be with the Kurds, because they are a minorized nation like us”. Damn! Not all “Minorities” are always right, this is not a solid argument!
But in the other hand it is truth that Russia also helped themn and some honest commentators commented them in a positive light. So may be I an wrong.
What do you think?
On press TV they say that there were clashes between the Kurds and some arab militia in the area who are all fighting the Jihadis. The SAA who are also near this area, got caught up in this as they were fired upon, and fired back. The USA got involved threatening the SAA, who ignored them and carried on responding to the attacks on them.
According to Press TV, the Kurds and the arab militias and the SAA are sorting out the issues.
Not sure what the out come is as the USA always manage to stir up trouble
‘Aleppo child survivor image will be used as propaganda for more war – not less’
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/356602-aleppo-child-survivor-propaganda/
“RT: Images and videos of the ‘Aleppo boy’, as he is being called, have made the rounds on social media, generating all sorts of emotions and responses from viewers. What is your take on the images, which really portray the horrors of war?
Lew Rockwell: Well, this sort of thing, of course, is always used as war propaganda. How many children has the United States killed in its wars that nobody except the families, or those who don’t like these wars, cry a tear over? I remember when Madeleine Albright, the [former] Secretary of State when she was asked about a UN report that US sanctions on Iraq had caused 400,000 children to die and she said, “We think it’s worth it.” A very cold-blooded conniver and murderer, Madeleine Albright… So when you look at that child it’s enough reason not to have war. But this is all intended to cause more war, to cause more deaths of the people supporting [Syrian President Bashar] Assad and to just split up Syria and make sure it’s much more easily controlled and support the terrorists who are Al-Nusrah and the so-called ‘moderate rebels’ who are all Al-Qaeda types. That’s who the US wants to bring to power, and we have to remember what they have threatened – although you won’t read this in the US press – they’ve threatened to ethnically cleanse Syria of all the Christians, of all the Shia, of all the Alewites, which is the small sect that many of the people in the government belong to.
These are very nasty people and showing this child reminds me of the huge propaganda over that poor little child that was drowned in Turkey on the way to Europe… and that was supposed to justify destroying the indigenous peoples of Europe with millions and millions and millions of welfare refugees. So it’s important to look behind these things. When the government wants you to cry over something – a very murderous government – you have to look beyond that and think ‘what are they trying to do, what addition killing are they trying to justify’
RT: What is so different about this little boy pictured in the ambulance and the other Syrian children adversely affected by the horrors of war wracking the Arab Republic?
LR: Well, one difference is that this child is still alive, whereas so many of the Syrian children have been killed, and their parents’ lives are ruined… it’s an eternal hurt for these people; it never goes away. Another thing this child helps us remember – although this is not the lesson the US wants us to take away from it – is that civilians are always massively those killed in war. Sometimes it’s actually safer to be a soldier than a civilian. Children, women, old people, man not in the military are far more the victims of war than the soldiers are. So it’s horrible that this child was injured… but [the Western powers should] stop trying to destroy Syria, stop trying to occupy it, stop promoting the terrorists. That would be a help.
RT: Why has public opinion in the West been so critical of Russian military activities in Syria, which granted Moscow the legal right to target terrorists in the country?
LW: Well, they lie. I’m far from an expert on the military aspects of this and of what the Russians are doing. But it seems to me, from my vantage point anyway, that the Russians are in trouble because they’ve targeted Islamic State [in Syria] and because the US doesn’t want ISIS targeted. The US has found ISIS to be a very valuable – and some say certain parts of US intelligence and other foreign intelligence, has even had something to do with generating ISIS, of bringing it to operational status, of arming it, and so forth. So again, this is the way empires work according to the old Roman saying that you have to ‘divide in order to dominate.’
Empires love division; they love civil wars, they love people fighting each other and then the imperial US comes in to fix everything up.”
‘I was playing with friends when it hit me’: Aleppo kids injured in rebel fire tell their stories
https://www.rt.com/news/356600-aleppo-children-hospital-situation/
“Children in government-controlled Aleppo are experiencing heavy fighting on a daily basis, as the opposition try to retake lost ground. While the Western media’s focus is largely on the suffering in rebel-held areas, RT looks at the other side of the story.
RT’s Lizzie Phelan is reporting from one of only two Aleppo hospitals that are now trying to cope with the inflow of those injured in the fighting. Those seeking help include both soldiers and civilians. So many people require treatment that they are filling up the medical facilities’ corridors.
The rebels now have control of three military academies in the south and have intensified their efforts to bring more territories their under control, Phelan explains. They are trying to get access to the southern road into Aleppo, and they fire at civilian targets from there.
Many children are among those injured. Phelan has spoken with two girls badly hurt by shrapnel from missiles fired from rebel held areas in the city’s south….”
Azerbaijan to Identify All Followers of Turkish Cleric Gulen in Country
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160820/1044472084/azerbaijan-gulen-followers.html
“On Friday, the security services of Azerbaijan reported about a detention of a group of people on suspicion of links to the movement of Gulen.
“All the followers of Gulen movement will be identified. The investigation in relation to it is in progress. The inquiries show that the Gulen movement has links with opposition groups in the country. But all attempts to destabilize the situation in Azerbaijan will be suppressed,” Novruz Mammadov said, as quoted by the Trend news agency.”
Syrian perspective website is covering the Arab- Kurd development in Syria very closely.
Meanwhile, there is some speculation going on of possible use of Incirlik by Russia. A development that would certainly send israel’s western colonies into psychopathological hysterics much worse than the craven sods already currently exhibit.
Turkish Prime Minister Admits Possibility of Use of Incirlik Base by Russia
http://sputniknews.com/military/20160820/1044471851/incirlik-base-russia.html
“Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said Saturday that Russia could possibly use country’s southern Incirlik Air Base if it becomes necessary.
At the same time Yildirim added that there were no need in Moscow’s use of the base, because Russia possessed facilities located in Syria that was not far from Incirlik.
“This information is not correct, but if necessary the Incirlik base could be used,” Yildirim told reporters, answering a question about Moscow’s alleged request for use of the base, as quoted by the Turkish Anadolu news agency.”
Probably just that irresisable urge to goad zionazis into one of those frothing, frenzied panics they are well known for. :D
Regarding the pindo nuke force there, or not there, if the weapons are not there any more, I would guess the weapons were transferred out prior to starting the coup, since the base was locked down fairly quickly. Moving them prior would be a logical precaution to avoid losing any should the coup fail and the Turkish react by occupying the american compound and gain control of these nukes. If it turns out the nukes were moved out prior to the coup, that would be a very convincing indicator the usa was behind the plotters.
The Kurds have a valid gripe. Like all ethnic groups they are looking for their promised land. “Wouldn’t life be perfect if everybody in the land were just like me”. Many ancient ethnicities once again fly their flag around the Med: Greece, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Israel; and deeper inland, Iran – land of the Medes and the Persians. Today’s Kurds (Kutti) are reputed to be descendants of the Medes. So why not Medea? (Call it Kurdistan if you must). Carve it out of the oil rich areas of Syria, Iran and Iraq; while one is about it, carve a little piece of Turkey. Medea would be extremely profitable new state for British Rothschildt (BP), French Rothschildt (Shell, Total) and US Rothschildt (Exxon). Also a hydrocarbon rich Kurdish statelet would be a useful addition to the handful of Rothschildt states in the M.E (Israel in alliance with KSA & Gulf gas-stations). So far, so good.
On the other hand, I do not see the M.E (in its present mood) consenting to yet another “surgical operation” by the armies of FUKUSA. Does anyone think that Syria, Iran, Iraq & Turkey – all fighting to get rid of ISIS – are going to sign consent to having the juiciest parts of their anatomies carved off and stitched together to impose yet another Frankenstein’s monster from FUKUSA in their neighbourhood?
This might seem to be OT but it isn’t. What would happen if many millions of americans found out what we know here of american regime connections to daesh and clinton’s role in these? Also note that Shamir doesn’t leave out israel’s influence behind these american aggressions.
The Scandal That Could End Hillary Clinton’s Campaign
http://sputniknews.com/analysis/20160821/1044486388/clinton-ties-daesh-creation.html
“Russian-Israeli journalist and political analyst Israel Shamir offers his insights on why Trump’s comments about Obama and Clinton being ‘the founders of ISIS’ may just put an end to Hillary Clinton’s White House ambitions.
“Hillary Clinton, the candidate from the Democratic Party for the US presidency, is on easy street, or so it would seem,” Shamir wrote, in a recent op-ed analysis for Svobodnaya Pressa.
“She has the reigning president on her side. She has the New York Times and the Washington Post on her side, along with the national television networks. It might seem that she’s got this election locked up. And that might have been the case, a few years ago; no one would have even heard about her rival, Donald Trump. But now, in the age of networking technologies, things aren’t as easy for her.”
“The gadfly in her Garden of Eden turned out to be Julian Assange, the Australian hacker who has been locked up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London for four years now. First he published the Democratic Party’s email correspondence, showing that its leaders had conspired to get rid of Bernie Sanders. The chair of the party had to resign, and the man who appeared to leak the materials was found dead on a street in Washington. But Clinton proved capable of coming to an agreement with Sanders. He received good money, bought a new house, published a book, and joined with Clinton, calling on his supporters to vote for her.”
“Then,” the journalist noted, “Julian Assange unveiled more of Clinton’s correspondence, declaring that it was Madame Clinton – during her time as Secretary of State, who supplied arms to Daesh (ISIL/ISIS), listed as a terrorist organization both in the US and in Europe. Furthermore, Assange said, she lied under oath when she told the Senate that she does not know anything about the supply of weapons to the terrorists.”
“Assange’s statements could have been silenced, but they were picked up on by Donald Trump. He accused Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama of creating Daesh, of being sympathetic to Daesh and its aims, of leading a phony war against the terrorist group, costing the American taxpayer a great deal of money, and bringing a tidy sum for Mrs. Clinton and her foundation.”
“Michael Mcfaul,” the former US ambassador to Russia, “accused Trump of articulating ‘Putin’s propaganda’. The Pentagon too was indignant; after ten thousand sorties against Daesh (or fifty thousand, according to some sources), they are still being accused of aiding the terrorists! A considerable scandal erupted. But Trump and Assange were right.”
“The supply of weapons to Daesh and its creation happened like this. Secretary of State Clinton was able to convince Barack Obama (who it is said played a passive role in this story) to deliver weapons to the enemies of the governments in Syria and Libya. To this end, a huge cache of American weapons was sold to Qatar. The tiny Persian Gulf principality with a huge budget paid for the weapons and even transferred a large sum into the accounts of the Clinton Foundation. The weapons were sent to Islamist extremists in Benghazi in eastern Libya near Egypt. They were distributed there by small-time Egyptian thugs, and were then used to overthrow Gaddafi.”
“After Gaddafi was toppled, the weapons were sent from Libya to Syria, and to the rebels there. Notably, Clinton and Obama had no doubt that the rebels were Islamist extremists with close ties to al-Qaeda. The top-secret dispatch from the Pentagon said point blank that the Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) militants knew Syria well, and have been fighting against the Assad regime from the outset. Western countries, Turkey and the Gulf monarchies supported their plan to seize eastern Syria, where it would be possible to create a support base like the one that was set up in Benghazi, Libya. And that’s how Daesh emerged in Syria.”
Further, Shamir noted, “Obama and Clinton also contributed to the rise of Daesh in Iraq. While Iraq was occupied by US forces, under President George W. Bush, the Americans created a Shia government in Baghdad, inciting the Sunnis against it; then, under Clinton and Obama, the Americans left, leaving Sunni areas flooded with a sea of small arms and military equipment. All the Islamists had to do was climb into the American Hummers and raise their black flags.”
“Then, according to the dispatch published by Wikileaks, and used by Donald Trump, Daesh received weapons from the US. The arms were theoretically meant to be delivered to the so-called ‘moderate opposition’, but Washington knew that they were falling into the hands of Al-Qaeda [via its Syrian branch, the Nusra Front] and Daesh. The leader of the Daesh militants in Pakistan admitted to having received weapons from the US. And in this Trump was right to accuse Secretary of State Clinton and President Obama. ‘They dream of Hillary Clinton’, Trump said of the terrorist group.”
In other words, Shamir noted, “before our eyes, the secret of the creation of this nest of terrorists and extremists is being revealed. We might have expected this, recalling that in their own time, the US filled Afghanistan with arms and brought the Islamists, along with bin Laden, to power in that country. At that time, Reagan was fighting the Soviet Union. Now, in Syria, Clinton and Obama are carrying out the will of the Israeli lobby, which dreams of eternal war in the Middle East. In Iraq and Syria, Washington is fighting Iranian influence.”
Therefore, Shamir noted, for now at least, “Moscow’s talk of joint efforts with the US against Daesh is just that – talk, even if it is necessary and useful. Not every truth should be laid out immediately, and the Kremlin understands this.”
“Assange has promised to publish additional evidence linking Hillary Clinton to the supply of weapons to Daesh soon, even though a lot has been published already. Then, when this reaches the American electorate, they will yet be able to pull off a November surprise.”
Ultimately, Shamir wrote, “the self-assured Mrs. Clinton and the Democratic establishment is more and more reminiscent of a ‘collective Boris Godunov’ [a Russian tsar in the late 16th century]. They consider themselves to be the anointed kings, and despise not only Trump, but his voters as well – the working and middle class. But more and more, the words of Pushkin come to mind: ‘There may be a great disaster. Such a disaster that Boris will hardly hold the crown on his clever head.'”
The world should do – justifiably – for the Kurds, what the Brits and French did ILLEGALLY for the jews. Give them their ancient home territory. They are a nation. (And if there are valuable natural resources there – so be it.)
[The world should do – justifiably – for the Kurds………………..]
The world should keep its hands off!
If the Kurds want to carve out their own state it is up to them. They should first unite, and then be careful in choosing their allies, because it would not be the first time they have been made false promises.
I live in french canada, Quebec. We would also love independence and have a french Quebec nation. Except that if USA showed up with tons of equipments to ”help us” liberate ourselves from our english neighbor. It would only mean that they seek to take over our country. It would not mean that we could live free and happy forever after.
They lie, they cheat, they obfuscate. Their words are not worth the paper they are written on. They are the government of the United-State.
You need to be liberated from the cruel oppression of your fellow English speaking Canadians?
Give it a rest with the hyperbole and, by the way, I think a majority of Western Canadians would be more than happy to see Quebec as a seperate country. Western Canadians are sick and tired of hearing about decades of Quebec threats to seperate while having to hand over cash for the privilege of being treated with contempt -“les autres” as you call us.
Just do it; enforce visa rules, build a wall to protect yourselves if delusion requires it, stand on your own two feet -it will ultimately be good for you.
I think Quebec should be an independent country and the divorce doesn’t have to be acrimonious. It could result in two friendly countries with a lot of shared history, independent, and yet together. Not some kind of arranged, forced and unwanted marriage.
Overall, in my opinion, Quebec population is much more aware of what is happening between Russia and Ukraine (the Ukrainian lobby here is not as strong) compare to the rest of Canada. Also, in Quebec, it is fairly common to hear discussions about chemtrails and how it all interacts with cellphones, smart-meters and other Orwellian appliances. There is a healthy amount of distrust towards governments and relatively clear understanding of the overall “geo-political” theater. In Montreal I witnessed some demonstrations in which people chanted “if you want to save refugees – you should stop bombing them first”, etc, etc.
Moreover, the whole image of anti-Canadian Quebecois is absolute nonsense; I don’t speak a word of French and I’m always treated here with respect and dignity – not so much in the rest of Canada.
This is just my experience.
I dont think english canadians are contemptible or cruel. My concern is that the USA would use the genuine aspirations of the kurdish people and do bad things to the Syrian state. Divide and conquer.
Obviously english is not my first language. Forgive my poor choice of words.
One recalls it was Albertans threatening to separate back in the early 1980’s with historical high oil prices on the charts. The subsequent oil glut/price crash however quieted them down noticeably.
Suggesting you speak for Western Canada’s view of Quebec, complete with instructions to that province on how to separate is what is delusional.
Alberta is the USA’s de facto 51st state. Western Canadian attitude has softened as there is currently no major clamour for Quebec separation so in Alberta there are only 51% who would not be saddened by the departure according to this survey:
“The proportion of Albertans who would practically celebrate Quebec’s secession was almost ten points higher (33%).
While it is evident that the number of British Columbians and Albertans who would be saddened by Quebec’s separation is significantly higher (62% for British Columbia, and 49% for Alberta), it was startling to see one-in-four BC residents and a third of Albertans saying they would not be distraught by Quebec’s departure”
http://vancouversun.com/opinion/how-would-western-canada-feel-if-quebec-separated
Here’s another dated discussion:
http://www.david-kilgour.com/mp/alienation.htm
But then you can’t always believe what is in a newspaper -particularly the Sun chain.
I don’t frankly think “Quebec” overall wants independence anyway. If most Quebecois wanted independence they’d have voted for it by now. But in reality, even when there’s a Parti Quebecois, supposedly nationalist, government they never try for a referendum any more because the backing for independence isn’t there.
Basically, what Quebecois wanted was to be the boss of their own house–“Maitres chez nous”. Fair enough. There was a time when Francophone Quebecois were second class citizens in their own province. Incidentally, that’s something Turkish Kurds, for instance, don’t have what with suppression of their language and stuff. But the thing is, after a succession of independence-minded Quebec governments passed a bunch of laws about language and education and having various things run by Quebec (pensions, for instance), turns out Quebecois ARE “maitres chez nous” and so most people don’t give much of a damn any more.
most if they even knew before now have forgotten about the plight of the Kurds inside Turkey, like Cizre there in those “southeastern provinces” (Anatolia) because of the astounding list trying to remember all the names, ethnicities, rival factions, geology (as in oil), geography, past history of migrations, battles, & intermixing.
I went back to find a very key date & event which foresaw all this now breaking out, after the setup, which was clearly the US & France (Putin’s buddies he invited in, remember, NOV/2015) setting up those bases at Rmeilan (US ) & Kobani (1 each by US & France). MARCH 23/2016:
Interesting the US base Rmeilan was finished 2 weeks before this announcement, & they were just starting at Kobani.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/syria-civil-war-kurds-declare-federal-system-north-160317111902534.html
Rojava autonomy declared
The opposition Syrian National Coalition also said it rejected such unilateral declarations and warned against any attempt to form autonomous regions that it said would “confiscate the will of the Syrian people”.
The newly declared region, known as Rojava, consists of three distinct enclaves, or cantons, under Kurdish control in northern Syria: Jazira, Kobani and Afrin.
Kobani center northern border; Rmeilan to very northeast border corner:
http://obrag.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Syria-Kobani-map-ed.jpg
So Erdo’s got a full plate & then some, like that Saturday Gaziantep Kurd wedding suicide bombing 50 killed.
This would have been an excellent time for Russia to point out forcefully that US military have no right to be in Syria and that they certainly have no right to threaten the Syrian government.
Canthama says:
August 21st, 2016 at 5:41 PM [Level 10 – Cesar]
primus, that is correct. It actually made a lot of sense for the US to do that with the current influence in Iraq and the Turkey doing what they wanted like a slave country. It seems this scenario is changing with Turkey moving into Russia-Iran-China alliance, without Turkey OK to the US any NATO base in Syrian land will be in extremely fragile position. Things will change from now onwards and the Kurds are missing their opportunity to be strong in Syria, they may gain in the short term, battles and additional ground, but on the long run, if they continue with this alliance with NATO, they will lose big time.
Should SDF/YPG storm Hasaka city, there will be a mess, not only Syria forces will get involved, foreign militia will be brought (mostly Iraqis and Hezbollah), but SDF will face air force heads on and the US will not be able to do a thing, and the US does, then this is it, WWIII since confrontation with Russia-Iran is a guarantee.
That is what Hasaka means right now, if it escalates and involve SAA/RG against YPG/SDF, then airforce will be used to bomb convoys etc… then the US will try to protect them and it will place US against Russia over the skies of Syria. It is that simple. Right now this chest fight is very dangerous.
US full airbase in Syria won’t fly without Turkish support, nor of course the Syrian Government, I see those air strips as logistics but not airbase, for a functional airbase, AA is needed and that would be very risky for them to have high tech AA and I can’t see that happening right now.
Read more at http://syrianperspective.com/2016/08/major-events-that-will-shape-syria-in-the-next-few-weeks.html#rM1YI6fBBSSdi6aU.99
Another rachet click…
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-21/german-government-urges-citizens-stockpile-food-water-first-time-cold-war-ended
teevee says:
August 21st, 2016 at 9:28 PM [Level 8 – Legatus Legionis]
Hi Hussain, Yes The Kurdish issue is a subplot of the New Middle east as envisioned by the West. The investment in Kurdistan has been heavy and sustained since 2003 invasion of Iraq. The US and allies will not “let me repeat” WILL NOT walk away from this mess without a Kurdistan firmly on their side. They’re willing to depose their ally in Turkey for the Kurdistan project, they want an ally next door to Iran. They will go to war to save this project. In my opinion the one and only way out, for our side is to infiltrate the Kurds and create divisions internally and make the Americans to have to choose sides, then we can pickup the pieces and have a hostile Kurdish opposition to the US/Israelis and make this project extremely cost inefficient for them. As cruel and inhumane that sounds, it’s that, or an all out war against US/Israel plus NATO. I don’t think anyone wants or needs that, specifically the Russians will not go to war with NATO over Kurdistan nor will Iran, but a covert operation can accomplish a lot more than a hot war. If we know one thing, we know up to now the Iranians have done a hell of job advancing their cause without any all out wars with anyone. And the Kurdistan project is mainly aimed at Iran.
Read more at http://syrianperspective.com/2016/08/major-events-that-will-shape-syria-in-the-next-few-weeks.html#rM1YI6fBBSSdi6aU.99
teevee says:
August 21st, 2016 at 9:28 PM [Level 8 – Legatus Legionis]
Hi Hussain, Yes The Kurdish issue is a subplot of the New Middle east as envisioned by the West. The investment in Kurdistan has been heavy and sustained since 2003 invasion of Iraq. The US and allies will not “let me repeat” WILL NOT walk away from this mess without a Kurdistan firmly on their side. They’re willing to depose their ally in Turkey for the Kurdistan project, they want an ally next door to Iran. They will go to war to save this project. In my opinion the one and only way out, for our side is to infiltrate the Kurds and create divisions internally and make the Americans to have to choose sides, then we can pickup the pieces and have a hostile Kurdish opposition to the US/Israelis and make this project extremely cost inefficient for them. As cruel and inhumane that sounds, it’s that, or an all out war against US/Israel plus NATO. I don’t think anyone wants or needs that, specifically the Russians will not go to war with NATO over Kurdistan nor will Iran, but a covert operation can accomplish a lot more than a hot war. If we know one thing, we know up to now the Iranians have done a hell of job advancing their cause without any all out wars with anyone. And the Kurdistan project is mainly aimed at Iran.
Read more at http://syrianperspective.com/2016/08/major-events-that-will-shape-syria-in-the-next-few-weeks.html#rM1YI6fBBSSdi6aU.99
About 21 August the US claimed the right to create and did create by these claims a de-facto “no fly zone” in northern Syria where the US evidently has soldiers of both the client type and also directly controlled us troops. The US has “promised” to “defend” this area, which promises to expand.
Today this claim is expanded and repeated.
Some may see this as a direct unlawful occupation under force of arms, which it obviously is. As such it cannot be permitted to continue. This is also obvious.
What is less clear is the best method to effect a change in this situation.
Very generally there are two methods: 1) direct force, liquidation of occupying forces. And, 2) indirect methods. I am at loss to find or imagine an effective indirect method. However limiting re-supply to these forces may be marginally effective, and that is somewhat indirect.
Thus I expect a “throttling” via re-supply.
But I would like to know how others see the problem…
Pax
The following article form Elijah Magnier is quite good on overall situation of northern Syria, from Aleppo to Hasaka, worth reading it.
https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2016/08/22/aleppo-prepares-for-a-major-battle-and-the-kurds-in-syria-are-attracting-everybodys-animosity/
Read more at http://syrianperspective.com/2016/08/artillery-college-liberated-syrian-air-force-and-russias-dry-up-terrorist-supplies-as-british-murderers-hasten-preps-for-the-fall-of-their-malignant-rodents.html#kZRdR84obdUqmHe7.99
Divide and conquer is the name of the game. Obama lights a fire, then plays golf while the middle east burns.
Looking at the various factions and actors in the area, it is incredibly easy to light a fire, but very hard to put it out.
Obviously the zionazis told their kurd quislings to attack the SAA and told their always groveling pindo gofers to provide them protection. This in an effort to turn around the faltering israel terrorist war against Syria.
Kurds Fight to Conquer Syrian Government-Run Enclave © Sputnik/ Mikhail Alaeddin
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160822/1044520300/syria-army-kurds-military-operation.html
The israelis are also using their uk quisling sods to try and prevent a defeat of their terrorists in Syria.
At Least 30 UK Labour Lawmakers Calling for ‘No Bombing Zones’ in Syria
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160822/1044518762/uk-syria-no-bombing-zones.html
The British in reality want a “No Bombing Terrorists Zone”–particularly for those moderate head-choppers and terrorists that the British special forces are embedded with, as suggested by that recent photo of a Britzie soldier illegally operating in Syria.
British Special Forces operating inside Syria
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/08/16/spec-a16.html?view=print
Photos Confirm U.K. Special Forces Protecting Terrorists In Syria
http://www.globaltruth.net/photos-confirm-u-k-special-forces-protecting-terrorists-in-syria/