I often post here materials which I do not agree with, primarily to elicit an interesting discussion. Today, again, I will post a warning by Sergei Glaz’ev who is a person for whom I have a great deal of respect and sympathy, but with whom I also often disagree. In this case, I am beginning to wonder if Glaz’ev might not be correct. I am planning to write an “analysis of the unthinkable”, i.e. a US/NATO attack on Russia, in the next few days (as soon as I have the time, hopefully Thursday morning). In the meantime, I leave you with this warning by Glaz’ev and a question:
Do you believe that the US/NATO is really crazy enough to actually use military force against Russia and/or Novorussia?
Please let me know in the comments section below.
Thanks a lot, kind regards,
The Saker
Here, in the meantime, is Glaz’ev’s warning:
Saker,
YES, of course. Just like they did against the Krajina Serbs, the US/NATO is already giving the ukies SATINTEL, etc., of NDF troop movements, etc.,
Do you believe that the US/NATO is really crazy enough to actually use military force against Russia and/or Novorussia?
Yes, they are.
saker i am out this site quickly turned from a pro-russian site to an anti-semitic anti-rational fully reactionary garbage dump attracting the worst people, seemingly straight from Rightsektor and Svoboda!
WTF?
what i wanted for this site was to provide a voice to the serious people on the ground in kiev who are being marginalised by the nazi junta.
people like Kiev-based sociologist Volodymyr Ishchenko who is a respected anti-kiev voice or
Sergei Kirichuk, the leader of the ‘Borodba’ movement, an influential left-wing organization in Ukraine, which is fully opposed to the Kiev junta, but at the same time maintains its independence, and cannot be defined as fully ‘pro-Russian’.
instead this site has turned into what seem like idiots like nora spweing immature bullshit and all kinds of clap trap posted by mental midgits.
what kind of site are you running? was this your intention?
NO THANKS!
Glazyev stated:
“In the first instance, the objective is Europe”
The objective of the US is market domination, therefore,the primary objective is weakening, fragmenting and keeping Europe weak and vassal.
“during the 1990s the United States outpaced Europe’s comparatively sluggish economies and boldly expanded NATO across the European continent and into the territory of the former Soviet Union.
But a host of problems have raised questions about the reserve currency status of the dollar.
By exposing the limitations of the US military, its disastrous defeat in Iraq and Afghanistan seem to have shattered the dream of a “new American century.”
Although the specter of Chinese power looms over the horizon, many issued enthusiastic proclamations of a European challenge to US hegemony.
Yet, if economic and political developments of the early twenty first century have thrown a spotlight on the fragility of US hegemony,
they have also confounded predictions of EU ascendance and the underlying intellectual assumptions on which these predictions are based
namely that the EU could summon the cohesion and political will to serve as a counterweight to the United States.
The successful launch of the euro initially quieted skeptics who had warned that a monetary union bereft of political union was inherently unstable.
But a prolonged period of stagnation and mass unemployment compelled first Germany, then France, and finally Italy to breach the walls of the Growth and Stability Pact, thereby exposing the very contradiction of which the skeptics had warned.
The collapse of the GSP in 2005 rendered the EMU, in the words of the Financial Times “practically worthless”
revealing underlying conflicts of interest among member states in the eurozone and provoking demands for the renationalization of monetary policy in some quarters amid predictions of impending collapse.
The Lisbon Agenda launched with great fanfare to make Europe “the cheapest and easiest place to do business in the world”
has produced a climate of uneven slow growth and economic nationalism.
The outrage of the unemployed, trade unionists, youth, and middle-class people uncertain of their economic future has discredited Europe’s technocratic elite,
signifing not simply the rejection of the EU, but a broader, systemic crisis of European political representation operating at both the national and supranational levels.
Thus, notwithstanding the United States’ own cascading political and economic difficulties,
growing political fragmentation is making it more difficult for Europe to resist the United States’embrace.
The multiple and overlapping economic and political crises indicate that the nations of Europe,
both collectively and individually
are condemned to experience a long period of turbulence and parochialism.
The crisis in Europe is thus not simply that of Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union,
but rather more broadly the exhaustion of a two-decade-long phase of Atlanticist, Washignton consensus, political and economic integration
that has condemned Europe to slow growth and mass unemployment,
has weakened traditional forms of political and social solidarity at the national and regional levels,
and has further subordinated the EU to an increasingly violent and unsteady US imperium.
Thus EU governing structures have played a decisive role in directly transmitting transatlantic social forces.
Europe’s presently fragmented predicament is most advantageous to and is a direct result of the internal contradictions and limitations of its imposed integration into the Atlanticist system and its concomitant subordination to the United States.”
https://www.rienner.com/uploads/47e2942e8d5f9.pdf
As Glazyev states,
“Americans have gained from every war in Europe – the first world war, the second world war, the cold war, the wars in Europe are the means of their economic miracle, their own prosperity.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NePChnsuMNs#t=665
It’s possible but I doubt it.
They obviously want to bring down Russia and I think the neocons would attack Russia directly if they thought that was the only option but I think it’s more likely they’ll try and achieve their goal through an escalating strategy of tension.
sequence:
-sanctions
-defeat the rebels
-sanctions
-build up NATO forces in Ukraine
-sanctions
-provocation around Crimea
etc
In other words keep cranking up the tension in the hope of a Russian surrender. If there’s no surrender then it could eventually build up to a direct attack but hopefully either the neocons will have been overthrown or the US economy will have collapsed before then.
The caveat on that is what the neocons would do if economic collapse was imminent.
Yes, Sergei Glazyev is right. I have stated this a while ago after I first watched his clip. He was right on Ukraine government can last longer than you think, he was right on the war is war again RF, and there is not choice but response, and right on more and more UKR will be available to fight with time, and how to frame the war to RF people.
I also said a while back, if Surkov is a political rising start in RF, I feel sorry for you.
I can not believe RF cast Glazyev’s opinion aside, but consider Surkov.
BREAKING ABC NEWS KIEV USED 3 BALLISTIC MISSLES ON MH17 CRASH SITE
Commander Strelkov! Roll your tanks to Berlin!
Dear The Saker,
Yes they will. As we have known for some time the lunatics are running the asylum. The Neocons control the USG and there are many old anti-Russians amongest them.
They just make it up as they go along – lies, lies and dammed lies – anything to justify their warmongering. Distracts from the truth of the flight too :(.
Unless some of the US military stop this we are doomed.
Rgds,
Veritas
Saker, Define military force?
Is provider Military adviser, and equipment is military enough for you?
Why can not RF do the same?
There is absolutely nothing that he said that I can argue with .
Ukraine was/is occupied by the US.
His reasoning for the regional war in Europe that can only benefit the US, is spot on.
The Zionists not only don’t care about the population of Ukraine, they clearly want them all dead.
No amount of casualties can slow them down.
Ukraine has only 0.2% of Jewish population and yet the government is 99% comprised of Jewish Zionists -this makes no sense.
This whole conflict is directed against Russia, China and Eurasia.
The Zionists hate Slavs because Slavs know more about Zionists than any other race on the planet.
The conflict is not designed to be stopped in Ukraine, it is designed to engulf as much of Europe as possible.
The fact that Russia has people like Glazev in the government is a very encouraging and hopeful sign.
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fighting war propaganda
If the people running the Empire has convinced themselves that Russia is a “gas station, not a country” and its armed forces are weak and inferior to the “best military in the world”, then… yes. I’m even willing to wager that Putin’s restraint and refusal to invade are right now being interpreted as weakness.
Remember, their behavior doesn’t conform to reality, but to their delusional virtuality.
@anonymous : are you sure that it is 3 missiles at the crash site? I don’t see that on the ABC news website. Do you have a link? Thanks,
The Saker
To be honest, I do belive that they might try it. Like a last resort thing.
Let me know, when the best time for desertion and joining russian army would be :)) if i have to, better die for the right reasons!
OT: check out this superb analysis of recent development in ukraine considering the malaysian aircraft as well from Joaqin and Morris.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6aiKtQ6hZ8
I still believe in Putin and his companions though, but it must be so tough and overwhelming to be dealing with such a responsibility. I could not even imagine that level of decision making. geez
greetings
Unfortunately Sergey Glazyev is right. There is no point in hiding behind words, they are used to deceive.
The reality is that the USA occupies Ukraine, and uses the country in a proxy war against Russia. The events clearly show that the USA is not a rational actor. The window of opportunity is rapidly closing, and Russia may have to pay a very high price for its lack of initiative.
He´s right.I´ve came to the conclusion that the world would be a far better place if the US ceased to exist,,by US I mean its government and military machine.
Do you believe that the US/NATO is really crazy enough to actually use military force against Russia and/or Novorussia?
Yes, they are.
The US are declining & they are determined to wipe out threats before they become too big to manage. With Russia being a pivot for BRICS and Eurasia the US may well decide that snuffing out this challenge has to be done now. US is also overconfident and reckless
There is no need of USA/Nato forces against Novorussia at least anymore.Russia already betrayed her own blood there.If ppl in Donbas/Lugansk have had even 1/5 of heavy equipment of pro-kiev murderers by now surrounded kiev forces in the south/at donetsk and lugansk airport would be history.And novorussian would be at offensive at all fronts.But Russia did betray them.In few short months at this rate at best everything will be over.By now Russia should destabilize Ukraine-provide support to Zadkarpatie with all means,forcing Ukraine to default(there is ongoing talk for ukraine debt restructure),use russian banks to call debt from various factories etc.In short should do everything possible to win this battle.But instead Russia did nothing of it-just look what kinds of ppl are actually in charge for defence againts such geopolitic risks in Russia.From what i`ve read in russian language sites-those ppl are simply not qualified for their current position at best or traitors at worse.Concering USA/nato atatck at Russia-yes i do believe there are such plans as last resort of actions.Remember economy of so-called ïnternational community”is in free fall with ever increasing speed.West financial system is in coma at life support.West elite desperately need major war-to distract population,MIC profits,reduce population,impose even more control,wipe up competitors,hide their crimes …list can go on and on.So the moment sociopaths in the west think they can “win” such war-they will attack.Simply their is no way “democratic” West will stay put and do nothing including starting global war in desperate attempt to save its eroding fast dominant position.For western elite life of hundreds of millions of people mean notning.They are expendable and will be sacrifice in their conquest for global domination and control over planet.Western rulers are insane and capable of amy immaginable crime.So global world war against Russia,China and any other competitors is definitely on the table as last resort if anything else fail to deliver in my opnion.
What I think is that the “missile defense system,”, as in anti nuclear ballistic missile system, is PURE political theatre. It is aimed at the populations of Europe. The real purpose of the proposed, alleged, “ABM” systems is to make mountains of taxpayer dollars for US owed “defense” industries. This kind of defense industry booddoggle (and ultimately I believe that’s what they are) is not cheap. Only wealthy sovereign nations can pay for this stuff. If the people of Europe are terrified out of their minds maybe they will demand that their leaders pay for deploying these systems. The other purpose has to do with America misinterpretations and misreading of history and cold war legends. The typical American Neocon will tell you the Soviet Union “lost the cold war” because they couldn’t keep up with Reagans defense spending (ie., “Star Wars” )..This is delusional. Domestic political pressure, and a catastrophic misreading of the fundamental character of American/European culture and politics by certain Soviet politicians and their followers, which led to irrevocable errors in judgement, led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. NOT “star wars”, or “the Pope” or any other popular self congratulatory American legends. Moreover, the Russian people didn’t believe they were “surrendering” and never would have given their leaders a mandate to do so. To sum up this point, American Neocons believe they can “bankrupt” Russia “again” by proliferating ABM systems. It is widely known they will not prevent a global, universal holocaust in the even of a nuclear war. However, Russia needs to make perfectly, unambiguously clear to its aggressors its determination to use “all means available” against them in the event of an attack. The fate of the world probably depends on this.
As a economist and talking geopolitics i got respect for him. The picture he built was easy to understand. I didn’t see any fact based missunderstandings. I hope Putin listen to him. It just looked too nice that they are sitting in Russia and talking what we should do about problems. Meanwhile the Ukies are planning a holocost of slavs and won’t stop before they have revenged Russia for Crimea. Maybe Putin misscalculated how upset they are for the loss.
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Saker,
Great video, very, very important for everyone to distribute this link everywhere.
As you know from the long piece from Glazev that I sent to you, I think this guy is right on. There can be no doubt that the Kremlin and Putin has a detailed understanding of the all aspects. Glazev is dead nuts on, to use a Shakespearean term.
1. No limits to the Ukie warfare.
2. It is a War against Russia.
3. Time is on Kiev’s side.
4. The Americans are militarizing and mobilizing all Ukraine against Russia.
5. After Donbass, Crimea is next.
6. Ukraine is an occupied territory of the America.
7. Europe is the next theatre of war. It is where America gains its biggest economic thrust and wealth-stealing.
8. China is the next big national target, using the same techniques and Japan and South Korea as levers.
9. Russia is the target now along the Ukraine border and Black Sea, also later with Europe as a wider theatre, the Baltic region, and finally, with China as the third region of war, the Far East and arctic.
Sadly, this is from two months ago. But most of us here on the Vineyard realized these analytical facts. It is just coming from a top advisor to Putin that makes it so powerful.
Thanks to the team that did the subtitles.
i agree with him 100%…Ukraine is occupied by the americans…i would add this…that america is occupied by the anglozionists…ie the bankers..the reason for the attack against Russia is to disrupt BRICS….which includes China….why he did’nt mention that aspect of the puzzle is rather odd….the west is rapidly failing….becoming “the mad dog”…their actions now will all be irrational and self destructive…leading to the”last world war”….they have driven themselves into a corner and now have only one option!!!!and that option will probably result in the end of human existence….oh well….what can i say!!!!it would now take a celestial miracle to extract ourselves from this impending calamity!!!!so let us hope for the mira…..!!!!!
1. NATO does not currently possess the capability for a sufficiently overwhelming first strike.
2. NATO does not currently possess sufficient forces for massive and rapid deployment necessary to fight on such large op theatre as Russia.
3. The majority of NATO forces have been severely downsized and the proportion of battleworthy field units to support units has shifted unfavorably towards the predominance of the latter.
4. The new “high-tech” wars are necessarily built on a premise of sustainable casualties/materiel attrition. Materiel is expensive and cannot be replaced quickly if lost. Due to reduced size of battle-trained units, sufficiently trained reserves are also not available in large numbers. Any prolonged conflict with a sufficiently strong adversary will by necessity mean reverting to older (easier and cheaper to manufacture) equipment and conscript soldiers.
5. Unless NATO armies revert to building equipment of the 1940’s/50’s variety, where just about any small factory could turn out parts for primitive tanks and planes and prosper on govt funds allocated for these, the economic effect on NATO countries will be less than positive. War Boom ain’t gonna happen. An insignificant (compared to war on Russia) campaign in Iraq contributed to a major economic decline in the entire West. No growth there.
6. Any such attack will be preceded by a lengthy buildup in proximity to Russian border. Russians will not sit idly by.
7. The only scenario with any semi-successful outcome for NATO is to move in should Russia descend into a full-scale civil war, something larger and bloodier by far than current Ukrainian squabble.
So – no. No NATO invasion.
As a side note, the Russian web community has been discussing an imminent NATO attack since at least 1999. The discussions grew frantic every time NATO stirred, however feebly. And so it went on and on and on. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria all sent wavez of panic through the ranks of the “hamsters” (you know what I mean, Saker). Everytime NATO ended up the wose for wear and with less and less credible results.
So…just stop reading Runet for a few days. It helps.
BOPOH.
Saker,
Right from hourse’s mouth, from CNN:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/07/29/ath-starr-officials-ukraine-military-fired-at-rebels.cnn.html
http://rt.com/news/176484-cnn-ballistic-missiles-ukraine/
Breaking News on RT it has been reported on CNN and the US official says Kiev has the “right to defend itself” Where have we heard that one before?
Christine
“Do you believe that the US/NATO is really crazy enough to actually use military force against Russia and/or Novorussia?”
The short answer is yes.
If you look at the language in western media – all I say is Newsweek – Putin now equals Sadam or Assad or Hitler.
It is the same format they used b4 attacking those countries.
So yes Russia is their target.
However what was most interesting today was CNN and for the 1st time they were (pretending) to be confused about the actions “of the good guys”. This *might* be a change in tone or it might be the beginning of them not going for WK III.
We will see how they play it in the next days.
One more note: It is really tough to be on the russian side (which is the better one in this conflict) because for gays it is almost a no go. Some of us are on your side but we do not like the way you guys on this board talk about us. We are NO pedophiles. And the fact that Strelkov accused Kiev to be pedophiles gave us a really strange taste in our mouths.
Accuse Kiev of what they really are: thugs, killers and nazis but do not make up other shit!
It is VERY hard for us to side with RU or many muslims in their just war, because of the way they think about us. Not many but some of us are brothers in your fight. Understand that this siding with u isolates us in our communities and that we do that bc your “war” is more just then the one of the empire. This issue and its contradictions needs to get addressed!
To me it always was difficult to find a common approach with muslims. I do not share their believes. They look down upon gays as sub humans. But we are both humans – facing the same enemy. Same in this conflict in the Ukraine. I can come up with a barrage what is wrong with str8 lifestyle. How men become monkeys just to get a girl for fun. How degrading. I have such a rage about how stupid and coward str8 guys are. But I do not follow this path. And why? Because we have to learn – in a very christian or communist way – that we are brothers: 1ST AND FOREMOST!
It is time you also do your steps getting it. Otherwise we all will die by a nuke from Russia or the USA. How do you deal with your discomfort w/ gays? How do the muslims on this board? How do the ppl from the right wing? Is there any way we can get an understanding and not turning against each other?
WE BELONG!!
PS. I am writing this from the Germany capital. Fair guess is: we have 15-20% gays in this city.
Dear Saker,
Everything Washington does points in the direction of Glazev’s theory. It is obvious (and a stated goal of the Obama administration according to Kyle Bass) that the USA must default on its debt. It has repeatedly used subterfuge in order to do this in the past, and perhaps now it needs someone else to blame.
Best case scenario – the aim is to pull the trigger on the Chinese/Russian dollar meltdown financial weapon – allowing Wall Street/Washington to escape blame.
However, I find an increasing frequency in economic discussions in American media (when the question of America’s debt and why anyone would buy Treasuries comes up) the phrase “well… we have the world’s biggest military”. This is a very strange idea – people will “lend” you money because otherwise you can destroy them. I don’t think that is “lending”.
Faith in USA financial institutions and government is at all time lows, but faith in their military is very high. Perhaps the ultimate insanity will prevail – that the hollowed out, bankrupt, delusional bully only has two strengths… death and deceit.
Finally we cannot ignore the Wolfowitz Doctrine: that any chance of development outside the USA which might one day challenge America – must be prevented. A direct and obvious motive for America to engage in every possible attack on peace and democracy across the planet.
We can all only hope that this belligerent and crazy attitude changes at the risk of every form of complex life on this planet.
Kind regards,
GlobalSatori
The US cannot, will not, and has no reason to default on its”debt”. Those who insist on repeating this canard betray a profound ignorance of how the US monetary system actually functions. The US is a sovereign currency issuer and does not borrow from others that which it creates at will. There are many reasons to fear for America’s future but running out of money or failing to pay its debts are not among them.
The US gambit in Ukraine is destined for failure but the health of the Dollar will have nothing to do with it.
here is the link, linked to cnn as well nevertheless
http://rt.com/news/176484-cnn-ballistic-missiles-ukraine/
here is the link, linked to cnn as well nevertheless
http://rt.com/news/176484-cnn-ballistic-missiles-ukraine/
Saker, the Empire has been acting out in recent months on level of irrationality I have never seen in my lifetime (almost 50 YO) so with trepidation I must say yes. It makes me wonder if they sense time is running out on them (why I wonder?), and are absolutely desperate and correspondingly reckless.
Glazov isn’t the only commentator who holds this opinion. Paul Craig Roberts has been saying the same thing for weeks.
C
Sergei Glaz’ev’s comments are certainly interesting. I definitely agree with him that time is not working against the Kiev regime. The US and Europe will provide sufficient support financial support to prevent the collapse of the Ukrainian economy. Compared to what the US spent in Iraq, the amount needed to sustain the Ukrainian economy is peanuts.
I don’t agree with him that the US is intending to get directly involved militarily in Ukraine. However, intentions and outcomes are not necessarily the same. US is pursuing policies that can precipitate unintended outcomes. What I found more significant is that someone with Glaz’ev’s stature is saying this. Either he believes what he saying or believes that current policies have an objective logic that will lead to direct NATO involvement. If people inside the Kremlin are thinking this way they will adjust Russian policies to counter such a situation from happening.
It makes me fear that we a closer to all out war than I wanted to believe.
I think Glasev is right in principle but wrong about time not being on Russia’s side. I think time is on Russia’s side but it might not be on the Donbass rebel’s side and he’s thinking about the latter.
That’s Putin’s strategic decision, play for time – which may involve sacrificing the rebels – in the hope that the neocon’s shaky alliance fractures (most of Europe doesn’t want this) or US domestic politics gets rid of the neocons or instead step in now and make it easier for the neocons to get full western support.
It’s tricky.
I’d say
1) fortify the border (including Crimea) as that looks serious but also defensive
2) call for a ceasefire so MH17 can be investigated properly, try and get Germany and France to join in – use UNSC
3) if that fails try and get a UNSC resolution for a no fly zone
4) maybe impose a no fly zone
The aim must be to detach the neocons from everyone else through showing them to be the hypocritical psychos they are.
Completely agree with your analysis. And I’ll add that Putin needs the rest of this year and next to ramp up production of conventional forces so he won’t have to go nuclear.he won’t reach parity at that point but war time production will kick in by then and he will have advantage of shorter lines of communication. Maybe by that point common sense will prevail in West and Russia will be all the stronger for the effort.
VineyardSaker 20:42
Could be this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9-8KvtfjZA
They were monitored by US satellites, unlike the missiles used against MH17
http://rt.com/news/176484-cnn-ballistic-missiles-ukraine/
Glazyev is certainly not the only one in Moscow who is thinking this. I also posted Glazyev’s warnings on my German blog today after I read this:
The Shocking Reason Putin Isn’t Worried About The $50 Billion Yukos Ruling
One person close to Mr Putin said the Yukos ruling was insignificant in light of the bigger geopolitical stand-off over Ukraine.
“There is a war coming in Europe,” he said. “Do you really think this matters?”
The fundamental aim of the US is to eliminate the BRICs and their independent monetary system. Russia is the first stage of this aim. The BRICS have hopefully, led by Russia and China, calculated for the US response. I feel certain that there will be a diplomatic response by Russia in a similar manner to that invoked over Syria. Putin lecturing the US public on US tv? That would never of happened unless Russia had all the US moves covered by,an unknown to us, gambit, such as superior strategic missile and communications technology. China? Well all they have to do is stop keeping the US monetary system afloat.
Saker. I lost my previous message will try to write it again. I think tis man Glaziev is right. I have been against an overt Russian military intervention but the whole situation is escalating from day to day right in front of our eyes. The Empire and its pack is after Russia and China in that order. The must coordinate their military defense or there is no hope for any of them. The Empire and its pack may hurt Russia but against both (China) they have no chance. It happened that the US cam stronger after the previous world wars but this time around is different since the war can be taken to their very own soil something they seem to forget, probably out of despair (by Neocons, US leaders). The UN we kno is a joke just ask Palestine!
I think he knows the enemy very well and he’s not far off on what Amerikas neo-conns are doing. Sad but he is right about Amerika gains, if a war does start the eu and it’s economy goes bye-bye bring austerity to Europe. Then the Amerikan neo-conn gain in Amerika by finishing off the Middle Class and turning the nation into a 3rd world nation for us 99%. It’s not going to be fun.
I do believe Amerikas neo-conns will stretch this out until all new trade agreements have been signed giving control to corp/govt. criminal class. This been playing out over the years here in Amerika and is in place. The nsa isn’t about catching bad guys it’s about control.
http://rt.com/news/176484-cnn-ballistic-missiles-ukraine/
Kiev forces fire ballistic missiles into E. Ukraine – CNN
Published time: July 29, 2014 18:07
Edited time: July 29, 2014 19:00
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I find Glaziev a lot smarter than “somebody” who met Porky in Normandy and hailed his “positive thinking” on settling crisis
First tie EU to US via the proposed trade agreement, then the same for Asia sans China Iran. then break the 3 non-US aligned via any manner including war.
For without US corporations having real LEGAL power to negate sovereign state laws[as proposed in Trans Pacific and Trans Atlantic Trade Agreement] or some such measures the US economy is on catastrophic [fatal] decline in the very near future
*****Don’t miss this video****
Watch how israel drops bombs every 5 minutes on houses along a street in Gaza, and reduces the whole area to rubble in ONE hour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdoYZ1-9XsM&feature=player_embedded
I wish they suffer the same but multiplied by ten. I hope I’ll live long enough to see it.
Murderers! Beasts!
Even their god cursed them dozens of times.
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What a remarkable and needed lecture from Glazev. Act soon, while Russia may still act with options, or be forced to react from a position of weakness.
Glazev makes it clear that it is necessary to frame the issue properly in order to respond to the situation.
My frame: The geopolitical view that defines the competition between the maritime powers and the continental powers as the key to global affairs calls for keeping the Germans and the Russians from making common cause. This strategy on the part of the US/Anglos succeeded twice in the 20th century.
The result of what is happening now–the push to isolate Russia and keep the EU subordinated to the maritime powers agenda– depends on the response of the Germans. I infer that this is an important factor in Glazev’s analysis. It appears Putin’s allies are in a fight to control the Russian western-oriented oligarchs and to avoid an open war triggered by the Ukrainian situation. Putin’s team is prepared to fight an economic war via the development of BRICS financial/trade coordination.
It may be that we are now witnessing the beginning of the end game: will Germany throw in with the BRICS? The pressure is on: see: Sanction Spiral Successful: German Exports to Russia Plunge
“The quasi-governmental Association of German Chambers of Commerce and Industry (DIHK) warned that exports to Russia are expected to plunge 17% this year from prior year, based on information the DIHK has received from German companies in Moscow and St. Petersburg.
And the DIHK is not exaggerating to score political points, though surely they’re trying to score political points. Exports to Russia have already gotten clobbered: In March, as the Ukrainian fiasco was developing, they dropped 7.2% year over year; in April, as the sanction spiral began to spiral out of control, they dropped 16.9%; in May, they dropped 17.5%. To bring the whole year down by 17%, the next few months would have to be even worse.
The German economy lives and dies by its exports. While Russia isn’t Germany’s largest trading partner, not anywhere near, it is important. In 2013, German exports to Russia had already dropped over 5% to €36.1 billion, triggered by the economic downturn in Russia. So the 17% plunge this year on top of last year’s drop would amount to a 22% swoon from the halcyon days of 2012. And now there are worries about the 300,000 jobs in Germany that depend on this trade with Russia.”
<a href=”http://wolfstreet.com/2014/07/29/sanction-spiral-successful-german-exports-to-russia-plunge/</a>
I find Glaziev a lot smarter than “somebody” who met Porky in Normandy and hailed his “positive thinking” on settling crisis
http://rt.com/news/176484-cnn-ballistic-missiles-ukraine/
More detail on the missiles possibly used:
Tochka-U with 500 kg warheads
Saker, Polish tanks already in Odessa. There was talk of Polish missiles with crew in fighting in SE. I am sure RF and Putin know all of that. but give me a break, the poll said no war.
It would not surprise me. The possibility is a credible threat.
Look at who is running the US foreign policy? It isn’t Obama or Kerry, they’re just talking heads. It is the same folks who thought the Iraq war and promised it would be a “cakewalk”, and in particular their ideological heirs who were put in place under Hillary Clinton, who herself has gradually transformed into a full fledged NeoConservative over the years. They’re still running the think tanks. They’re still running the US state dept today.
Open hostility to Russia economically and diplomatically and in media, and in proxy wars.
Foolish but that’s whats happening. The sanctions are a done deal- they’ll try to starve Russia of everything Western Europe has a monopoly on. It will be a huge pain.
The considerations of “side effects” on American interests in the world are probably minimal and dishonest, but by the time they figure this out it will be too late for everyone. Just look at Iraq — 11 years and we still don’t have the guts to state unequivocally that it was a criminal f*ckup of the highest magnitude.
Yes, of course.
not only are they capable, the USANS -and consequently the NATO- are actually itching to make war on Russia.
USA badly needs a big war to revive its bankrupted economy, and the previous WWI and WWII have been BIG BUSINESS for them.
Tht is the neocons wet dream, but fail to see that this time, if there is WWIII, nobody will win and half of the world will be destroyed. The psycopath_neocons are incapable of understanding it.
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Russia was crazy enough to use severe sanctions to stop Ukraine talking to the EU, launch a military occupation and to encourage an insurgency against Ukraine. That’s a lot to go wrong.
South Ossetia worked once. Do the nationalist nutcases expect the same thing to work again?
The torpedos are striking Putin’s government hard now. He’s lost face. He’s caught between the Nationalists of whom there are many and the businessmen. If he goes quickly, the Nats will take control and early use of Nukes are already on their horizon. Russian TV has projected such war hysteria since Mid February. If he goes slowly, then the already failing economy will be the cause and there will be a more peaceful transition. NATO would be mad not to be planning and rehearsing scenarios for intervention. The power struggle if he goes early will be brutal.
Living in an alternate universe, I see.
the us military hardware is old and rusty, they expand lifetimes more and more, especially in the navy(wikipedia) – because there is no way to buy or build new equipment in peace times.
in war times there is always enough money for everything – and – it’s obvious that if there will be peace for the the next years the us have not the possibility to be the no. 1
military might of the world.
compared to the russian military, which can efficiently modernize its forces for their actual needs, the us have the 60ies, 70ies, 80ies stuff which costs a lot. everything else is propaganda.
with this they aren’t a superpower anymore in a few years, simply because it’s too expensive.
so yes, i think glazev is right and they want war between europe and russia – it fits their needs.
and if russia nukes europe – who cares in the us..
of course, lose a few old ships and carriers hurts, but on the other hand with europe AND russia disabled the world will be a better place for us economy.
and they trust on their first strike capability and their icbm shield – little to no damage to the us..
they want to get rid of eurasia because it’s the biggest thread to the hegemon or bring it to an endless war..
i wonder if they got all this without orwell..
Ralph
No indicator of the target area
http://russian.rt.com/inotv/2014-07-29/CNN-SSHA-zasekli-pusk-ballisticheskih
nuther nonimus
Anonymous at 29 July, 2014 20:14…good riddance. Come back when you have seen more of what the world has to offer and the lies has been peeled away.
As for NATO stepping into Ukraina…this is obviously a game of “tit-for-tat” where the US has been gradualy mounting pressure on Russia to openly intervene in Ukraine so as to turn the “entire” world against it. I dont believe they will send in regular troops anytime soon. At least not US/UK troops. Perhaps baltic or polish troops to some extent as an attempt of a “peacekeeping” mission.
This whole thing will be cranked up in stages. Next is likely more “advisors” and equipment for the P-Uke army. At least in the imagination of the US/UK hawks they believe they can use Ukrainians to do the dirty work, and so far to great success.
However, the fighting is taking a huge toll on the P-Uke army, the fascist/nazi fighters and the equipment available. Fighting a war like this takes a lot of money, which the P-Ukes dont have.
My understanding of what is happening is that the P-Ukes are short on time, manpower and money to achieve anything looking like a victory in Novorossia. As time drags on the population in the rest of Ukraine is increasingly becoming alarmed at both losses of loved ones and their own living conditions turning to shit.
I firmly believe that the Kiev junta will collapse. I am just waiting for an attempted coup-d-etat by disgruntled army officers. Glazev made a comparison to Georgia that did not collapse and as I understood it he did not think this could happen in Ukraine either. I dont agree with him on that. As far as I know, Maidan has not settled down yet. There is still the possibility of a second uprising to get rid of the junta.
Novorossia has to stay smart and fight the long fight. And Russia absolutely needs to supply whatever regular equipment they can to the militia. This is not just a fight for Novorossia but also for Russia Major.
Stay strong!
Norwegian Bob
When US wants Ukraine under full control and Russia wants Donbass and Crimea under full controll, well they can´t hav eit both.
One has to lose.
The americans are “poker” players maybe they up the ante or go all in.
Put russia in a position where it has to make tough calls.
When neocons dominate both reublicans and democrats (H.Clinton) it puts aditional pressure on obama.
Another point is the complete absence of a peaceful way out and even a ceasefire is out of question. No one pressures Poroshenko to make negotiations (not even rumors about inoffical talks). Thats very strange. I mean put sanctions on russia and then dont put pressure one Kiev ?
In the moment there is nothing on the horizon that looks like deescalation.
“during the 1990s the United States outpaced Europe’s comparatively sluggish economies and boldly expanded NATO across the European continent and into the territory of the former Soviet Union.”
Overly American viewpoint. Every year Business Week runs an article on fading Europe. Every year European GDP/head closes the gap a bit more. The EU as a whole has a bigger economy than the US with more room to grow. So the US is now asking for a Free Trade Agreement with the EU. The politics of Ukraine will keep EU soft power from showing through for another 10 years.
Dear Saker
No it is crazy, direct warfare would be nuclear warfare and at present there is very little to prevent the bulk of the Russian arsenal; if fired, to reach their targets.
Please understand, the people leading the charge against Russia are not ideologues, they are only interested in money. Specifically US taxpayers money in the US military budget. This money has been slashed by many billion pa already and there is a near endless succession of bigger cuts lined up for the future.
These people want the proposed cuts scrapped and the existing cuts reversed. Needless to say these are the people whose corporations will be the beneficiaries of this money and much of it will ultimately filter into there pockets.
To do this they need an enemy and Russia has been chosen to play the part. (Tried China but they refused to play).
Kiev forces fire ballistic missiles into E. Ukraine – CNN
http://rt.com/news/176484-cnn-ballistic-missiles-ukraine/
http://www.dedefensa.org/article-_qu_importe_puisqu_une_guerre_se_pr_pare_en_europe__29_07_2014.html
Obama Should Release Ukraine Evidence
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/29/obama-should-release-ukraine-evidence/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQNJdKcnGPI
War Is Coming
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/28/war-coming-paul-craig-roberts/
Do you believe that the US/NATO is really crazy enough to actually use military force against Russia and/or Novorussia?
No.
The Ukies are being set up for a very big fall. The most critical consideration for the Anglo-Zionists is maintaing control of Europe. A wedge must be driven between the EU and Russia if the Empire is to avoid a rapid and disorderly decline. This is the only card they have to play so they’re playing it.
The regime change operations targeting Russia are stuck in reverse and it’s hugely expensive to continue funding the Kiev junta. The West is broke and no one is willing to fund this indefinitely. Forcing Russia’s hand is the only option they have which can possibly rescue their fortunes — and drain some of Russia’s resources — both economic and political.
An ideal outcome for them would be the recreation of the situation they had in Ukraine after WW2. They want a long and drawn out civil war to sap the strength of their enemy. Right now, they caught in a trap of their own making and it’s undermining them severely on all fronts in a long term global struggle.
As it stands today, Russia is draining Western resources, credibility and power and doing so on the cheap. What’s more, at this level of conflict, Russia can sustain it forever. Every day Russia grows stronger and more capable of sustaing her own needs. For the West, no amount of fracking or dumping of radioactive waste can ever compensate them for their losses.
A Russian invasion will benefit the Empire tremendously in a myriad of ways. Possibly several million Russian hating and Russian speaking people will flood into the West. Unlike most Westerners, who just don’t give a shit about Russia or Putin, the new arrivals will be deeply committed to the parasite agenda. The Western intelligensia is dying a slow death and desperately need new blood. I’ve seen these people everywhere already. Ukrainians of a certain class are already flooding into the West.
There are other advantages for the West if Russia invades. A society at war is inevitably degraded both socially and spiritually. Yes people pull together but they also stop having children and the culture of life, which is now so powerfully contrasted against the Western culture of nihilism and death, will be sapped of its force and its power to inspire the people of the world will evaporate. Is anyone paying attentioon to politics in the US or Europe. Russia, despite relentless propaganda, is no longer seen as it was during the Cold War. Today we talk about the beauty of Russian women and the reliability of Russian weapons. Contrast this with the babuskas and clunky Soviet technology we used to talk about. The Anglo-Zionist ability to control public perceptions is gone for good.
Russia must bide its time and wait for an opportunity. Already it is clear to everyone, Glazov included, that some form of intervention must take place. The question is according to whose timetable. Notice how the never ending US presidential election cycle has ground completely to a halt. No one wants Russia and Putin to be overriding issue during the next campaign. The contrast between Putin and any potential Republican or Democrat would be too much for the anti-dissonance machine to overcome. They want Russia off the table except as a backround concern which they can occaisonally point to but never directly confront.
Please, everybody, stop believing anything you see in the media. Any person of any quality you can think of has already tuned out these liars completely. The Anglo-Zionists are terrified of the long term trend and they need a soluton asap.
It seems utterly beyond belief. But isn’t it already happening? Rumors of US military “advisors” in Ukraine, and certainly the Ukraine “government” is getting marching orders from DC…
On the other hand, the US gov’t is congenitally sackless and only able to attack the weak and disorganized. If Putin pushes back, I would expect them to crumble. Typical for bullies; cold-clocking them usually brings their provocations to an end.
The Russian Federation is nowhere near as powerful as the Soviet Union was (even during its final decay in the 1980s), not in military terms, not in economic terms and, most importantly, not in the patriotism and the loyalty of its people(s) who are now, left to their own devices by the state, largely just as dumbed-down, “unsolidarisch” and atomized as their western counterparts. What’s more, compared to Stalin’s clear sighted, uncompromising resolve, Vladimir Putin comes across as an indecisive, compromising leader who wants to play by the book (written by western rulers) and to participate in international organizations, institutions and meetings which are also dominated by western rulers; Unlike Molotov, who during his time in office was well known and popular throughout the world, Sergey Lavrov is virtually unknown to western populations (which is a shame because I think he’s very good); And there is no Beria in sight to take care of spies, traitors and saboteurs within the system and of 5th column propagandists in the privately owned Russian media. So, yes, I think it possible that some western think-tankers and analysts could come to the conclusion that trying a potshot at the Russian Federation might be worth the risk … But of course, I sincerely hope this won’t happen.
Initially I thought Glazev was being unnecessary alarmist. Now my views have changed utterly. The US refusing to provide intel proof plus Kiev not releasing the ATC data are looking like an admission of guilt.
It doesn’t look like they’ll need to attack Crimea directly. ITAR-TASS is reporting that Kiev has cut a deal with the Dutch to allow them to mount a 700 member ‘armed’ investigation force of military and non-military specialists, and allow them free rein to move through Ukraine.
The Ukrainians don’t even need to send a sniper to deliberately shoot at the investigators on site – just the fact that 700 angry and armed Australians and Netherlanders marching into a war-zone from the enemy side will inevitably provoke a violent response from the rebels.
As soon as blood hits the ground, an ‘outraged’ NATO will come charging in, and total war will erupt. Its pretty clear now why Poroshenko didn’t stick to the ceasefire. Who needs a red flag operation when you have such compliant pawns to sacrifice…
The Key to the situation is Germany–tomorrow the details of the sanctions will be published, but if Merkel did not stop the Obama cabal of darkness, then the situation changes and changes radically. Some horrible even is about to happen ( as if Gaza horror is not enough) in this next period through August 3 which will take us to the brink.
Russia is portrayed as the bad guy who must be punished and even some of my friends who should know better have bought the crap slung out as facts by the Kiev/Washington DC axis. So the PR guys in the shadow government know that they have 15 minutes worth of the attention of the American people to do their dirty deed. Yes, unfortunately Putin will have to act no matter what and probably soon. I hope he has plan B.
If criticism of Israel amounts to anti semitism then count me as a foe of that tribe. I am tired of their constant whining about their victimhood—lots of holocausts have happened in history. Note the killing of the Native American population of the United States and the 200 year slave passage from African to the US. Let us understand that history can be used selectively and religion used to close the heart to the suffering of others. All of this is evidenced by the apologists of the State of Israel.
Hi Saker, I wanted to know if I can email you, I tried here in your blog but I couldn’t.
Let me know how to do.
IMO, NATO is already using its military force against Novorossiya, albeit via proxy. But directly against Russia is another matter altogether. The business of America is (still) Business, so I doubt the Outlaw Empire will use direct military force at this time. Remember, Russia is only one pillar of BRICS, which is also upheld by the G-77 and NAM–the vast majority of the planet’s people, the true International Community.
As I wrote earlier, I expect Ukraine to simmer until next Spring, but I also think another hot spot will be created, perhaps India. In this conflict, geography is paramount. Look at a map of the world, focus on Eurasia, and then on the little stub to the west known as Europe. In 1999, I predicted that the 21st century would become known as the Asian Century. I still stand by that prediction. The megalomania existing in Depravity Central will slowly ebb as economic and demographic reality bring forth the MultiPolar World, which is already very visible. Smart Europeans–and Smart Asians, Africans and non-US Americans–know that the MultiPolar World offers better business opportunities provided peace can prevail. Who stands to lose is a sizable faction of Old Money in the Outlaw Empire.
Putin’s Eurasian Plan and the Chinese New Silk Road Plan will win in the end. Yes, there are many opportunities for the Outlaw Empire to try to destabilize the plans. Not even a hot war can prevent defeat of the UniPolar World.
http://rt.com/news/176484-cnn-ballistic-missiles-ukraine/
Thank you very much for this very informative video Saker. Many times I have worried that the Kremlin might be reading the situation wrongly and be counting on their European “partners” to do an about turn. But seeing this video has fully reassured me that the Russians have indeed seen the writing on the wall and are fully aware of washingtons intentions. I fully agree with what Glazev was saying through and through. You do not cure a disease by treating the symptoms.
Anonymous 20:14,
So leave already, for God’s sake. You keep threatening to: Just. Do. It.
If you really want to help people in Kiev — go provide it. No one’s stopping you. You’ve made your point repeatedly, it hasn’t worked yet and ain’t gonna. Or do they pay you per comment and that’s why you stick around? It sure isn’t bc you’re actually convincing anyone. ;~)
Sergei Glazyev is a smart and sober person. A few months ago I would have probably thought that this is nonsense because nobody could possibly be foolish enough to attack Russia. But I think that his assessment of the situation and his conclusions are correct. Crimea is next. Russia should consider preemptive measures.
I also find his suggestions concerning the action that Russia should take as a response to the sanctions quite reasonable.
From Aztlan..
Russia continues to be on a rebuilding mode. While it has had success in the recovery of the populations income and standard of living, the military was devastated through the neglect of the Yeltsin years, and later through the corruption on the Military leaders.
There has been a downsizing of the Army, Many scandals at every level from petty theft to the actual overcharges on the procurement of Military hardware amounting to Billions of Rubles.
under this scenario, there has been a
refocusing of priorities, since Shoigu came to head the Ministry.
the appointment of Rogozin to head the Development of the mIlitary systems, has given a great push to the creation of modern weapon systems, many were on the pipeline since soviet times, even so they are ahead of the West in different capabilities. Can’t say that the Russian Army is fully re-organized, or fully equiped, many of the modern systems are still in the trial process. The actual capacity to build the modern hardware is limited, witness having to purchase the Mistral Class Helicopter carriers from the French, the purchase of transpor vehicles from Italy, and others. The RF needs to modernize its vision of waging war. The pentagon has shown its cards already, thanks to the numerous conflicts that it has on the works, well known to all.
While RF will have a modern military in five years time, according to Rogozin, it has to accelerate the systems it has been working on for the past decade. The Ratnik System for Personel protection is available only to Special Units. Russia has no Drone capability. At this time the USA-NATO could very well wage war through Drone strikes at Strategic Positions. It is unknown the amount of drones the US has at its disposal because the CIA has its own Drone Air FOrce, The number of drone units is estimated at thousands. Could Russian Air Defenses be able to withstand a Drone attack? That is just one piece of hardware, and one that the West uses without regard to human life.
Afghanistan war is winding down, there will be over 100,000 US Army personnel that need to keep busy.
Already the bases in Romania provide a launching pad. Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan are controlled by the West. Azerbaiyan can be destabilized quickly. Armenia is on the fence, Kirghizia too.
There are plenty of soft spots on the Russian underbelly. It is not even necessary top strike at Moscow directly, but rather go for control of the Siberian Republics and the Far East. Just send the usual cannon fodder, Poles, Lithuanians, Romanians, and Ukrainians. Maybe Malaysians and Philipinos, too.
Russia is a Strong nation and it has a strong, patriotic military. But the West senses weaknesses, and the LGBT clique that controls the West, wants to remain in power.
Israel acts with chudzpah in the Gaza strip because it has the backing of US, despite the half hearted Media condemnation. But don’t let a Russian Tank cross the street in Rostov because that is a great transgression of World Security, a great menace.
It is not the people are bashing the Khazars, it is that they have brought it upon themselves. And as citizens of this world these conflicts also concern the safety of my family, of my own homeland. These are not reactionary thoughts, it is self-preservation. Kiev becomes a parochial subject when we are faced with world destruction.
CNN reporting on the use of ballistic missiles by Ukraine
http://linkis.com/www.youtube.com/EOQC8
Re: Do you believe that the US/NATO is really crazy enough to actually use military force against Novorussia?
Why then do you think US/NATO downed MH17, if not to a allow NATO to attack Novorossiya?
See my analysis from Saturday:
Ukraine: WARNING of imminent WWIII!
Open-source intelligence points to an imminent danger of Russia–NATO war in the Ukraine.
The Saker
Yes, tragic to say but I think Sergei Glazyev is right on the button. Consider the mindset of those driving the New World Order – we are now in the End Game.
CDN says:
An economic blockade is considered to be an act of war.
What the USSA calls “sanctions” effectively function as a form of economic blockade. They are deigned to prevent or inhibit trade with the RF.
There is little difference between these actions and the economic blockade against Japan that ushered the USSA into WWII.
I think the case can be made that the USSA has been engaged in belligerence short of war for a considerable period of time.
If you look at some of the reported drone strikes these constitute undeclared acts of war against citizens of foreign states in a sovereign jurisdiction that the USSA violates with impunity.