“I see a strain of petty nationalism in Putin’s Russia, and I also see it in Svoboda and the Right Sector in Ukraine.
Russia refusing to recognize the horrors of the Holodomor — the mass starvation imposed by mostly-Jewish Bolsheviks on Ukrainians because they resisted Soviet Communism — is an example of petty nationalism. Just like ignorant Americans don’t dare doubt that World War 2 was a “good war,” with America on the side of the angels and the Axis powers on the side of “evil,” so also many ignorant Russians, even Russians who don’t support Communism, cannot abandon their “my country, right or wrong” mentality. These Russians can’t imagine World War 2 as anything except the “Great Patriotic War.” Just like unthinking Americans lap up the propaganda that the “War on Terror” is a righteous response by “our troops” to “Ay-rab terrorism” — ignoring the atrocities against innocents our soldiers are encouraged to commit and which drive so many of them to suicide, and ignoring the fact that this “War on Terror” is a creation of the Jewish neocons — so also many unthinking Russians want to sanitize their decades-long subservience to the architects of the intentional mass famines that killed millions.
But I also see some recognition of the real struggle for global White survival among leading elements in Russia — something that one cannot even imagine occurring in America or Western Europe today. Even before the fall of Communism, Leonid Brezhnev famously told Margaret Thatcher at an East-West summit in 1980 that their actions that day would determine the fate of our race, saying: “The only question is whether the White race will survive.” The only question!”
Обращение от имени ШТАБА НАРОДНОГО ОПОЛЧЕНИЯ ДОНБАССА (Appeal on behalf of Staff of the People’s Militia DONBASU) http://anna-news.info/node/14114
The zionazis are running their usual psy-ops scams, with agents pretending to be spokespersons for Paul Gubarev. The zionazi quislings in Kiev initially set his bail at $50k, but when that was paid, denied bail on new spurious charges. Gubarev remains under house arrest in Kiev. In true Jewish mafia/bankster form, the sods did not return the bail money.
The zionazis have been arresting those who gain popularity in the east, while at the same time, busing in their own right sector bandera butt bandits to stage provocations. This is what the zionazi Kiev junta “military maneuvers” has been about. Repressing east Ukraine independence activists and the resistance to the bandera nazi/Jewish mafia quisling junta in Kiev.
More realistic than the “let’s dump treasuries” suggestion – although if push comes to shove, that’ll be likely to happen as well. But it would be a desperate move.
That they make the issue about Martin, and not about debunking the zionazi propaganda she spewed on Crimea, says where those zionists are coming from. The gay solidarity bias is also rather obvious, beyond the zionist Jewish sticking up for a fellow sayan.
Nationalist said…
“You might appreciate Kevin MacDonald”
Full spectrum dominance includes control of all of the dialog, right, left and centre.
This is the rightwing version of the zionazi 5th element. MacDonald’s “anti-Jew” views not only enjoy zionist western establishment sanction, he has managed to keep his uni position and “prestige”. Contrast that with what happened to Frankenstein, who mildly criticises the zio-mythos, but goes along with most of it. MacDonald goes way beyond Finkelstein, but the sod gets a free pass and comfortable income from the zionazi establishment. Gee, why would that be? Because he promotes both the bigotry and division imposing zionazism thrives on, and he reinforces the anti-semitic scare memes zionazis rely upon to frighten Jews into becoming indoctrinated zionazis in the service of apartheid Israel. That zionazi charlatan is a classic example of zionist establishment co-option op of those opposed to their dominance. If MacDonald was for real, he’d be long out of that uni job he has. He is just as phony as those bandera nazis his owners are running in the Ukraine.
Kabuki theater for the dim and the self-obsessed greedy.
All are concentrating on the fashists, nazis but i regard them as the puppets who are clearing the way for the real plundering of the country and the people.
They are also clearing the way for the US and it’s NATO advancements and finally the overthrow of the Russian government… or at least dividing this large country into smaller managable parts for plundering by the western Oligarchs (Shareholders, Hegdefonds, Investors el al) just as they have done in the 90′ of the last century…
What will they do if finally all countries drink coca cola, eat hamburgers and fries and dream driving along the route 66? What will be gained then… without any antagonist left?
…many, far too many in the “once glorious and golden” west have not yet understood that for many millions of people the future lies in Russia, not in the US nor in Europe…
i’m also sure that if people in the new EU countries, those former the ex. sovjet republics would be allowed to vote for or against accession to Russia, many of the currenty leaders would be very surprised about the high pro votes…
even after more than 20 years of golden capitalst promises which turned into lies, development which turned into plundering, far to many people still live an unacceptable living conditions right in the middle of the promised land called Europe… a Europe for the rich, for corporations, for the elite, for shareholders, for investors, for stockmarkets, for banks… but not for the people. Not for the mor ethan 500 Millions living hre fo which are more than 120 Millions are poor according to EUROSTAT and OXFAM. Decline of the poor and middleclasses is sure and steady, what with all the neoliberal laws and rules depriving most here frmm their already small income and poor jobs and little savety that is left from the once good social systems and pensions and salaries…
not the people, not the millions of hard working men and woman have destroyed the hopes of millions for a simmple but good live, it was the greedy elites, the oligarchs from out- and from inside very well supported by the laws and laywers and politicians…
I have nothing to add to the discourse except that I’m an old woman who had to listen to this same anti-Soviet BS as a child and I took the side of the Soviets. My thoughts and prayers are with Russia.
By tomorrow, the 15th of March 2014, the United States, through its agents in Ukraine, will begin a series of false flag attacks on targets in Ukraine which have been designed to make it look as if they were carried out by the Special Forces of the Russian Federation. This information has been made available and was released through several forums used by Anonymous Ukraine. Members of Anonymous Ukraine, who are involved in what Anonymous has called Operation Independence, have independently verified that Anonymous is the source for the e-mails. Among the three key e-mail is one containing the initial instructions from the US Army Assistant Army Attaché Jason P. Gresh to a senior official of the General Staff of the Ukrainian Army named Igor Protsuyuk. Again Anonymous has exposed treason by Ukrainian officials and the egregious illegal meddling of the United Sates into the affairs of a sovereign nation.
For such a sensitive issue, these guys would not a) use public gmail accounts, unencrypted, it seems b) use a google maps screenshot of a map god knows how up-to-date
>>>>>>>>>>>>>That they make the issue about Martin, and not about debunking the zionazi propaganda she spewed on Crimea, says where those zionists are coming from. The gay solidarity bias is also rather obvious, beyond the zionist Jewish sticking up for a fellow sayan.
What impressed me is their acknowledgement that RT let AM have her opinions, misguided though they be, without punitive consequences.
That’s not how it goes in the US, where American journalists have to fall on their sword the moment they dare to call BS against the media-entertainment, warfare-state system. I could not even imagine what would happen to a non-American journalist who questioned the party line.
In hindsight, Liz Wahl is the one who comes off looking quite moronic in all this. Evidently, her white-trashy pronunciation of Poo’in (i.e. Putin) was no coincidence.
A Plymouth warship fired a torpedo towards a bridge in a training blunder at Devonport Naval Base. Military chiefs have admitted that a training torpedo was fired by error by HMS Argyll on the afternoon of Wednesday, March 12. Military chiefs launched a major investigation yesterday after a Royal Navy warship accidentally fired a torpedo at a nuclear dockyard.
So when NATO or Russia say they are doing “exercises” near the Ukraine border, this is a classic example of how things can go very wrong. Think the movie “Failsafe.”
And, I can just about guarantee that there will be a total blackout in the national MSM on this “accident.”
Honk said: For such a sensitive issue, these guys would not a) use public gmail accounts, unencrypted, it seems b) use a google maps screenshot of a map god knows how up-to-date
Hunsdon said: Victoria Nuland used a cell phone en clair while negotiating who would run Ukraine 2.0.
I don’t know if the e-mails were ginned up or not, but Opsec and Commsec are concepts many, many people have trouble with.
Talking about preferred personnel, which of course is rather undemocratic meddling in other countries’ affairs, is still a whole different matter than relaying an order to stage a false flag attack with the explicit expectation that it will trigger a reaction by the world’s superpower on another major power – both armed with nukes, I might add.
This article might answer the question I have posed on these pages few days ago : http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/03/nationalists-jews-and-the-ukrainian-crisis-some-historical-perspective/ Extract : Hunted and executed if caught by both Soviets and Germans, the Third Great Congress of OUN-Bandera was held in August 1943 on an isolated stretch of fields in the northern stretches of the Ternopil region. The meeting revolved around the defeat of German forces at Stalingrad. In a fit of warped logic, the 25 members present concluded that Britain and America would soon declare war on the Soviet Union, with or without Germany by their side. Believing, somewhat bizarrely, that Jews in Washington and London would be crucial in bringing about the alliance against the Soviet Union, these leaders of OUN-Bandera decided to appease their would-be comrades by changing its policy on national minorities and stressing the “equality of all citizens.”[26] Two months later OUN-Bandera leaders began drawing up lists and accounts absolving Ukrainians of having participated in any anti-Jewish/anti-commissar actions. In 1944, with the Red Army now firmly in control of Western Ukraine, regional OUN-Bandera leaders issued orders that “no actions against Jews are to be carried out.”[27] Despite its new “Jew-friendly” policy, OUN-Bandera was emphatically proscribed by Soviet authorities. The majority of those in the OUN, or its later incarnation, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, were forced to live abroad. In Soviet Ukraine itself, all attempts to revive right-wing thought, even on the smallest levels, were suppressed by the police and the KGB.[28]
@Honk- “The False Flag Emails Hacked story is a hoax, right?”
It’s a story being pushed by Turner Radio Network along with Crimean earthquakes caused by HAARP, a ‘Sky Dreadnought’ UFO (no kidding) over Ukraine, and the Ruskies scuttling ships to block the Ukrainian Navy in Donuzlav Lake. So, yes IMO, probably a hoax.
A United States surveillance drone has been intercepted above the Ukranian region of Crimea, a Russian state arms and technology group said Friday. “The drone was flying at about 4,000 metres (12,000 feet) and was virtually invisible from the ground. It was possible to break the link with US operators with complex radio-electronic” technology, said Rostec in a statement. The drone fell “almost intact into the hands of self-defence forces” added Rostec, which said it had manufactured the equipment used to down the aircraft, but did not specify who was operating it. “Judging by its identification number, UAV MQ-5B belonged to the 66th American Reconnaissance Brigade, based in Bavaria,” Rostec said on its website, which also carried a picture of what it said was the captured drone”.
Could be a new signal to the Americans not to do anything foolish?
Thank you, confirms earlier reports before the great sound machine to over
http://stormcloudsgathering.com/ has put out this excellent & informative video on the Ukraine situation:
Ukraine Crisis – What You’re Not Being Told: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkfpGCAAuw
You might appreciate Kevin MacDonald’s discussion of The Unstable Alliance of Nationalists and “Mainly Jewish Oligarchs” in the Ukraine.
Story on the Abby Martin opinion piece: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuBYbdwaaQ8&feature=player_detailpage#t=855
Here’s another interesting perspective:
American Dissident Voices: Petty Nationalism and Religion
“I see a strain of petty nationalism in Putin’s Russia, and I also see it in Svoboda and the Right Sector in Ukraine.
Russia refusing to recognize the horrors of the Holodomor — the mass starvation imposed by mostly-Jewish Bolsheviks on Ukrainians because they resisted Soviet Communism — is an example of petty nationalism. Just like ignorant Americans don’t dare doubt that World War 2 was a “good war,” with America on the side of the angels and the Axis powers on the side of “evil,” so also many ignorant Russians, even Russians who don’t support Communism, cannot abandon their “my country, right or wrong” mentality. These Russians can’t imagine World War 2 as anything except the “Great Patriotic War.” Just like unthinking Americans lap up the propaganda that the “War on Terror” is a righteous response by “our troops” to “Ay-rab terrorism” — ignoring the atrocities against innocents our soldiers are encouraged to commit and which drive so many of them to suicide, and ignoring the fact that this “War on Terror” is a creation of the Jewish neocons — so also many unthinking Russians want to sanitize their decades-long subservience to the architects of the intentional mass famines that killed millions.
But I also see some recognition of the real struggle for global White survival among leading elements in Russia — something that one cannot even imagine occurring in America or Western Europe today. Even before the fall of Communism, Leonid Brezhnev famously told Margaret Thatcher at an East-West summit in 1980 that their actions that day would determine the fate of our race, saying: “The only question is whether the White race will survive.” The only question!”
Обращение от имени ШТАБА НАРОДНОГО ОПОЛЧЕНИЯ ДОНБАССА (Appeal on behalf of Staff of the People’s Militia DONBASU) http://anna-news.info/node/14114
The zionazis are running their usual psy-ops scams, with agents pretending to be spokespersons for Paul Gubarev. The zionazi quislings in Kiev initially set his bail at $50k, but when that was paid, denied bail on new spurious charges. Gubarev remains under house arrest in Kiev. In true Jewish mafia/bankster form, the sods did not return the bail money.
The zionazis have been arresting those who gain popularity in the east, while at the same time, busing in their own right sector bandera butt bandits to stage provocations. This is what the zionazi Kiev junta “military maneuvers” has been about. Repressing east Ukraine independence activists and the resistance to the bandera nazi/Jewish mafia quisling junta in Kiev.
вот так
“But I also see some recognition of the real struggle for global White survival among leading elements in Russia”
The writer presumes that race nationalism is somehow different in kind than so-called “petty nationalism”.
He provides zero evidence for his position.
Someone over at thediplomat must have been reading my recent comments here on the saker re: Russia->China, Russia->Syria, Russia->Iran. :)
http://thediplomat.com/2014/03/5-ways-russias-ukraine-boomerang-could-strike-asia/
More realistic than the “let’s dump treasuries” suggestion – although if push comes to shove, that’ll be likely to happen as well. But it would be a desperate move.
Honk
Л. said…
“Story on the Abby Martin opinion piece”
Well, yeah, they support their own.
That they make the issue about Martin, and not about debunking the zionazi propaganda she spewed on Crimea, says where those zionists are coming from. The gay solidarity bias is also rather obvious, beyond the zionist Jewish sticking up for a fellow sayan.
Nationalist said…
“You might appreciate Kevin MacDonald”
Full spectrum dominance includes control of all of the dialog, right, left and centre.
This is the rightwing version of the zionazi 5th element. MacDonald’s “anti-Jew” views not only enjoy zionist western establishment sanction, he has managed to keep his uni position and “prestige”. Contrast that with what happened to Frankenstein, who mildly criticises the zio-mythos, but goes along with most of it. MacDonald goes way beyond Finkelstein, but the sod gets a free pass and comfortable income from the zionazi establishment. Gee, why would that be? Because he promotes both the bigotry and division imposing zionazism thrives on, and he reinforces the anti-semitic scare memes zionazis rely upon to frighten Jews into becoming indoctrinated zionazis in the service of apartheid Israel. That zionazi charlatan is a classic example of zionist establishment co-option op of those opposed to their dominance. If MacDonald was for real, he’d be long out of that uni job he has. He is just as phony as those bandera nazis his owners are running in the Ukraine.
Kabuki theater for the dim and the self-obsessed greedy.
вот так
Greetings from Singapore:
A strong article in Counterpunch on Obama:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/28/obamas-dumbest-plan-yet/
All are concentrating on the fashists, nazis but i regard them as the puppets who are clearing the way for the real plundering of the country and the people.
They are also clearing the way for the US and it’s NATO advancements and finally the overthrow of the Russian government… or at least dividing this large country into smaller managable parts for plundering by the western Oligarchs (Shareholders, Hegdefonds, Investors el al) just as they have done in the 90′ of the last century…
What will they do if finally all countries drink coca cola, eat hamburgers and fries and dream driving along the route 66? What will be gained then… without any antagonist left?
…many, far too many in the “once glorious and golden” west have not yet understood that for many millions of people the future lies in Russia, not in the US nor in Europe…
i’m also sure that if people in the new EU countries, those former the ex. sovjet republics would be allowed to vote for or against accession to Russia, many of the currenty leaders would be very surprised about the high pro votes…
even after more than 20 years of golden capitalst promises which turned into lies, development which turned into plundering, far to many people still live an unacceptable living conditions right in the middle of the promised land called Europe… a Europe for the rich, for corporations, for the elite, for shareholders, for investors, for stockmarkets, for banks… but not for the people. Not for the mor ethan 500 Millions living hre fo which are more than 120 Millions are poor according to EUROSTAT and OXFAM. Decline of the poor and middleclasses is sure and steady, what with all the neoliberal laws and rules depriving most here frmm their already small income and poor jobs and little savety that is left from the once good social systems and pensions and salaries…
not the people, not the millions of hard working men and woman have destroyed the hopes of millions for a simmple but good live, it was the greedy elites, the oligarchs from out- and from inside very well supported by the laws and laywers and politicians…
I have nothing to add to the discourse except that I’m an old woman who had to listen to this same anti-Soviet BS as a child and I took the side of the Soviets. My thoughts and prayers are with Russia.
PS Thank you Saker for your excellent analysis.
@Nationalist
You do know that the phoney and idiotic white nationalist movement member Kevin Alfred Strom is a convicted paedophile?
By tomorrow, the 15th of March 2014, the United States, through its agents in Ukraine, will begin a series of false flag attacks on targets in Ukraine which have been designed to make it look as if they were carried out by the Special Forces of the Russian Federation. This information has been made available and was released through several forums used by Anonymous Ukraine. Members of Anonymous Ukraine, who are involved in what Anonymous has called Operation Independence, have independently verified that Anonymous is the source for the e-mails. Among the three key e-mail is one containing the initial instructions from the US Army Assistant Army Attaché Jason P. Gresh to a senior official of the General Staff of the Ukrainian Army named Igor Protsuyuk. Again Anonymous has exposed treason by Ukrainian officials and the egregious illegal meddling of the United Sates into the affairs of a sovereign nation.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_03_14/Operation-Independence-Continues-Anonymous-exposes-US-invasion-plans-in-Ukraine-7517/
The False Flag Emails Hacked story is a hoax, right?
For such a sensitive issue, these guys would not
a) use public gmail accounts, unencrypted, it seems
b) use a google maps screenshot of a map god knows how up-to-date
Any other opinions or insights?
Honk
вот так said…..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>That they make the issue about Martin, and not about debunking the zionazi propaganda she spewed on Crimea, says where those zionists are coming from. The gay solidarity bias is also rather obvious, beyond the zionist Jewish sticking up for a fellow sayan.
What impressed me is their acknowledgement that RT let AM have her opinions, misguided though they be, without punitive consequences.
That’s not how it goes in the US, where American journalists have to fall on their sword the moment they dare to call BS against the media-entertainment, warfare-state system. I could not even imagine what would happen to a non-American journalist who questioned the party line.
In hindsight, Liz Wahl is the one who comes off looking quite moronic in all this. Evidently, her white-trashy pronunciation of Poo’in (i.e. Putin) was no coincidence.
This is how wars get started by accident.
British Navy warship accidentally fires torpedo into nuclear dockyard
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_03_14/269335351/
A Plymouth warship fired a torpedo towards a bridge in a training blunder at Devonport Naval Base. Military chiefs have admitted that a training torpedo was fired by error by HMS Argyll on the afternoon of Wednesday, March 12. Military chiefs launched a major investigation yesterday after a Royal Navy warship accidentally fired a torpedo at a nuclear dockyard.
So when NATO or Russia say they are doing “exercises” near the Ukraine border, this is a classic example of how things can go very wrong. Think the movie “Failsafe.”
And, I can just about guarantee that there will be a total blackout in the national MSM on this “accident.”
Honk said: For such a sensitive issue, these guys would not
a) use public gmail accounts, unencrypted, it seems
b) use a google maps screenshot of a map god knows how up-to-date
Hunsdon said: Victoria Nuland used a cell phone en clair while negotiating who would run Ukraine 2.0.
I don’t know if the e-mails were ginned up or not, but Opsec and Commsec are concepts many, many people have trouble with.
@Hunsdon
> Victoria Nuland used a cell phone
Talking about preferred personnel, which of course is rather undemocratic meddling in other countries’ affairs, is still a whole different matter than relaying an order to stage a false flag attack with the explicit expectation that it will trigger a reaction by the world’s superpower on another major power – both armed with nukes, I might add.
Honk
This article might answer the question I have posed on these pages few days ago :
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/03/nationalists-jews-and-the-ukrainian-crisis-some-historical-perspective/
Extract :
Hunted and executed if caught by both Soviets and Germans, the Third Great Congress of OUN-Bandera was held in August 1943 on an isolated stretch of fields in the northern stretches of the Ternopil region. The meeting revolved around the defeat of German forces at Stalingrad. In a fit of warped logic, the 25 members present concluded that Britain and America would soon declare war on the Soviet Union, with or without Germany by their side. Believing, somewhat bizarrely, that Jews in Washington and London would be crucial in bringing about the alliance against the Soviet Union, these leaders of OUN-Bandera decided to appease their would-be comrades by changing its policy on national minorities and stressing the “equality of all citizens.”[26]
Two months later OUN-Bandera leaders began drawing up lists and accounts absolving Ukrainians of having participated in any anti-Jewish/anti-commissar actions. In 1944, with the Red Army now firmly in control of Western Ukraine, regional OUN-Bandera leaders issued orders that “no actions against Jews are to be carried out.”[27] Despite its new “Jew-friendly” policy, OUN-Bandera was emphatically proscribed by Soviet authorities. The majority of those in the OUN, or its later incarnation, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, were forced to live abroad. In Soviet Ukraine itself, all attempts to revive right-wing thought, even on the smallest levels, were suppressed by the police and the KGB.[28]
@Honk-
“The False Flag Emails Hacked story is a hoax, right?”
It’s a story being pushed by Turner Radio Network along with Crimean earthquakes caused by HAARP, a ‘Sky Dreadnought’ UFO (no kidding) over Ukraine, and the Ruskies scuttling ships to block the Ukrainian Navy in Donuzlav Lake. So, yes IMO, probably a hoax.
@Vot Tak
Re: Kevin Macdonald,
Good observation. At a closer look it reveals to be a WASP-ish propaganda outlet.
WizOz
Interesting and possibly significant news:
Russia Says It Intercepted A US Drone Over Crimea
Agence France Presse Today at 5:37 AM
A United States surveillance drone has been intercepted above the Ukranian region of Crimea, a Russian state arms and technology group said Friday.
“The drone was flying at about 4,000 metres (12,000 feet) and was virtually invisible from the ground. It was possible to break the link with US operators with complex radio-electronic” technology, said Rostec in a statement.
The drone fell “almost intact into the hands of self-defence forces” added Rostec, which said it had manufactured the equipment used to down the aircraft, but did not specify who was operating it.
“Judging by its identification number, UAV MQ-5B belonged to the 66th American Reconnaissance Brigade, based in Bavaria,” Rostec said on its website, which also carried a picture of what it said was the captured drone”.
Could be a new signal to the Americans not to do anything foolish?
WizOz
Legal argument that the US has no legal argument.
http://www.lawfareblog.com/2014/03/russia-in-ukraine-a-reader-responds/