Great show! Especially Mark’s points about Yats’ youth activities (ca. 15:00 min) and how “Islamo-fashism” has been turned into a reality by the Obama administrations (ca. 20:00 min) are very interesting, and probably not going to make it into mainstream media.
Regardless of who was the cause of the Twin Towers and Pentagon calamities fourteen years ago, and what may be the truth behind the terror and the anti-terror war, 3,000 humans died.
My New York was attacked. Think of this fact. 400 firemen and cops died saving 21,000 other humans in the Towers. Heroes. Over one hundred of those men who died weren’t even on duty. They rushed to help.
When you pause for a moment and dwell on the evil that occurred, the scale of the massacre was only ten percent of what it could have been. The difference was those hundreds of heroes who saved so many.
Very true.Doubts that people have on the cause of 9/11 don’t negate the horror of it (actually they enhance that horror),and the innocent lives lost.Nor the heroism of those that suffered and in many cases died trying to save people.
There are some crazies that actually think that noone died in the 9/11 attacks at all and that that was faked too, but most of the folks in the greater 9/11 truth movement think theyre batshit crazy.
Its not really possible to fake those images of people jumping to death…
@ Uncle Nunzio: “Regardless of who was the cause of the Twin Towers and Pentagon calamities fourteen years ago, and what may be the truth behind the terror and the anti-terror war, 3,000 humans died.”
I just figured… let’s all check the date (?) That is… today! (Give or take, depending on where you’re hailing from)
>>> “3,000 humans died”
I think if you do a body-count in Iraq alone [remember: Saddam Hussein was allegedly “harboring terrorists cells linked to 9/11 (with no evidence supporting such ludicrous claims) and besides that, he was also “hoarding stock-piles of non-existent WMDs”
Because: “[..] we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud” _Dubbaya’s quote]
I repeat: if you do a body-count in Iraq alone …it would dwarf the number of dead in Manhattan, either at that fateful false-flag day itself, or later; by the cancer-induced deaths on the first responders breathing-in the asbestos filled air, that was famously declared: “safe to breathe”
^And I’m not vouching for Wikipedia’s veracity, btw. It’s just that this 9/11 first responders’ cancers is so widely acknowledged by now, that not many people are contesting this fact anymore (because it’s [and was to begin with] so goddamn obvious!)
As you can see the Truth cannot be buried alongside the fresh-killed bodies.
Because Truth, with a capital T, endures. One way or another it does.
Never the less, my original point was; we should spare a thought for the Afghanis and Iraqis who died needlessly in their millions, (depending on who you’re willing to you believe: Afghani/Iraqi coroners or the other side; the USians who are not too fond of keeping count…)
…and all of this was all due to a couple of condemned, asbestos infested buildings collapsing down in Manhattan 14 years ago this VERY day.
So from your argument and moral calculus, if only 3000 Afghans or Iraqis died, it would have been okay?
Each incident, terror in US, hegemonic retaliation in Afghanistan, immoral war in Iraq have their own tally and authorship. Once wars break out, it is specious to try to cast a moral judgment.
For instance, if you came to my house and killed a few of my relatives, and I had the chance and weapons, I’d probably kill you and everything around you that may or may not be connected to you. I wouldn’t much care about the collateral damage or injustice of it. You began something and got a response. It was not meant to be measured. It was war. And war has no morality.
“So from your argument and moral calculus, if only 3000 Afghans or Iraqis died, it would have been okay?”
In one word: no.
And since your kind seem to believe ‘no means yes’
Let me repeat that: NO!!!!
Means no, means no… means no…
“Each incident, terror in US, hegemonic retaliation in Afghanistan, immoral war in Iraq have their own tally and authorship”
Yeah… but both ‘tally and authorship,’ it all just happens to stem from the USofA and their murderous NATO/Coalition of the willing lapdogs.
It’s all just an unfortunate coincidence, I’m sure… yeah…
“Once wars break out, it is specious to try to cast a moral judgment.”
WTF?! Maybe it was a typo: specious = apparently good or right though lacking real merit; superficially pleasing or plausible + pleasing to the eye but deceptive + thesaurus: false, hollow, erroneous… (could had been suspicious instead of specious? Who knows?)
Either way; I can and I will cast moral judgment on anyone who starts random imperialist wars under false pretenses.
“For instance, if you came to my house and killed a few of my relatives [etc]”
Thanks (but no thanks) I pass. Your example, it’s just to sadistic/deranged for my liking (for one, I wouldn’t be killing your family or anybody’s family for that matter…), so I won’t even address this lunacy.
“You began something and got a response [..]”
Yay! New Pearl Harbor event. Yay! Let’s nuke some shit up in retaliation, who cares who’s ultimately to blame?! …U-S-A! U-S-A!
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….seek help :/
. “It was war. And war has no morality”
Spoken like a true psychopath.
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PS: This is type the of “people” Russia is up against, and Uncle B, Paul Craig Roberts and many others have been desperately trying warn them against: look behind you! The killer is right there! [^ A quite inspired horror-movie analogy right there, btw]
and many of them are now dying of cancer because the Twin Towers were full of asbestos and this is what the first responders were breathing in and surrounded by. Clouds of asbestos.
So clever of Larry Silverstein that he never had to pay for asbestos abatement but instead bought and insured the Towers 6 weeks before 9/11 and got a $4 billion payout for pulverizing the asbestos and spreading it over Lower Manhattan.
Katherine
R; Yes, many innocent lives were lost that day. That’s not the point.
Multiply that day 365 x 14 = [5110] the lives of those we bomb or let be bombed. What would such a live be like [not mentioning all the lives lost because of it]?
True, 3000 people died in that disgusting attack. But even assuming that it’s truly not the work of some conspiracy that we don’t know about, how much “revenge” is enough? Post 9-11, US actions in Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan have already cost over 1 million lives, not including the injured.
If you then include “regime-change” actions for Libya, Yemen, Syria, etc, it’s another several 100 thousands. Not to mention say, 10 million refugees. Isn’t that payback way way way way way more than enough ? What makes those 3000 lives worth the lives of over a million, who have nothing to do with it ?
Russia really needs to purge RT of the 5th columnists that work on their site.The good work that most of the people at RT do is undermined by the few traitors permitted to be there.No one familiar with the way the West’s propaganda is framed doesn’t know the “code” words they use to subtly attack a government.If I know those terms,the RT writers do as well.But today they have a story of Lavrov talking about Syria.The headline a 5th columnist put for the article is, ” Russia backs Syria’s fight against ISIS, not Assad’s regime – Lavrov”. We all know the use of “regime” instead of government is a derogatory term the West uses.And any Western reader (basically their whole readership for the English edition) would pick up on the meaning.Used when you are trying to question the legitimacy of a government. If that wasn’t bad enough.Nowhere in the article does Lavrov say anything like that headline says.He only used the term “government” when referring to the Syrian government of Assad.And he didn’t say they only supported Syria and not Assad.In fact the article is complimentary of Assad.So we obviously have a 5th columnist writing the headline, and trying to insert their opinion,even when it doesn’t merge with the facts.This is one small example that I’ve noticed countless times at RT.Russia must get a handle on this type of treachery before these traitors subvert all the work RT puts in to get the truth out.A major housecleaning needs to be done there very soon.
You are correct!
In the past (before I knew Saker’s blog) I frequently visited RT and often wondered about many such things. Then much later, during the war in Donbass it became finally clear, that RT only showed harmless things compared to what really happened.
Also the use of the term “regime” in association to Russia’s friends makes me angry.
Don’t they have proper quality controlling? Those infiltrators appear to sit in high positions there, because it happens on a regular basis.
“[..] Russia must get a handle on this type of treachery before these traitors subvert all the work RT puts in to get the truth out. A major housecleaning needs to be done there very soon.”
Can’t agree more.
RT America, in particular, is plagued by neo-liberal non-entities.
I, for one, was more than happy to see Abby Martin finally get the f**k off my “TV Set” [Would not – will not – forgive nor forget her rant about Russia “invading” and later “stealing” Crimea from poor ol’ “sovereign” Ukraine and the MSM circus her stupid tirade attracted…]
So: goodriddance to her!
After giving this new[ish] ‘Watching the Hawks’ a fair go, multiple times, I can’t help but conclude that it’s a waste of air time, so is this old timer, Larry King, and his ‘Politiking’ [with his never-ending parade of mind-numbing guests discussing endlessly the “differences” between the Republicans vs. the Democrats] and ditto The Big Picture with their American-centered, liberal, non-issues they keep bringing up, that no-ones cares about apart from themselves.
And those examples are just from the top of my head I can think about right now, because I’m sure there are plenty more, especially in relation to 5th columnists operating within RT, a far more worrisome development than a few dumb-ass liberal TV shows no-one pays attention to.
On the other hand, I quite enjoyed ‘The Truth Seeker,’ but it got cancelled :/
No idea why, all I know is that one week it was there and the next it wasn’t. Never pulled that thread to check why that happened, so I donno…
I liked the truth seeker, but he often used footage in unappropriate manner, out of context. At the time I complained about this to RT, because these things can ruin the reputation of the channel. Some more people did, and they listened!
There are true armies of hasbara bots scanning every sentence, every video, for any discrepancy etc. Of course once in a while mistakes are made, but the removal of that show has boosted the credibility of RT.
In all the time of the Sakers blogs existence there are only 2 (slightly) possible mistakes, although never disproven: the witness report by the lady from west Ukraine of a nazi crucifixion of a child and a fragment calling for genocide on Horomadske TV: To my knowledge the ladies’ report has at least never been DISproven, and nobody EVER bothered to provide the full translated transcript of that particular show, in order to indicate the clipped version was selectively quoted. But on several forums, I was harassed about these factoids at least a hundred times.
RT and RI will have to remain vigilant, certainly after the neocon mole Liz Wahl debacle…
Off topic: Congratulations mr Corbyn!!! (please watch your back!)
Last subject: unfortunately, the last comment of mr Hudson was cut off due to time pressure. Anyone any idea what his point was?
“I liked the truth seeker, but he often used footage in unappropriate manner, out of context. At the time I complained about this to RT, because these things can ruin the reputation of the channel. Some more people did, and they listened!”
Oh, well… THAT I didn’t know. I only managed to catch a handful of episodes, they’ve aired the show at very odd times, or very late at night on my neck of the woods, so it was a bit of a lottery for me. In contrast to that; it seemed every time I tuned to RT ‘Breaking the Set’ was perpetually there (now I’m having that same problem with Boom & Bust instead) and, IMHO, Cross Talk is not repeated as frequently as it should be. It is their flagship show after all!
“RT and RI will have to remain vigilant, certainly after the neocon mole Liz Wahl debacle…”
Thank you for bringing that up, best example of 5th columnists at work on RT.
(For those not familiar with this story here’s a great expose on it via truthdig)
You know you’re not limited to airtime in watching RT’s shows, right? You just click “Shows” at the top of the site & choose the one you want to watch, whenever.
Yeah, I know. But with my bandwidth limitations -> they charge me for every single megabyte I download, that’s also the reason why I can’t watch most of the videos post in here and I’m forever in the look out for transcripts.
A very good show today.There were several very important points discussed on the show. 1st,they discussed Yatsenyuks Chechnya accusation.So maybe there is something to that story after all. 2nd,the missing almost 2 billion dollars in IMF money.And my question is why haven’t Russia and China demanded answers on that.The US may control the Fund.But other nations contribute money to it as well.And part of that missing money was Russian and Chinese government funds.3rd,what Michael Hudson talked about at the end (he was cut off because they were out of time,but that is an important issue).That the West may very well try to screw Russia out of the 3 billion owed to her by Ukraine.And he seemed to be saying if they do, it would remove any legal protection for loans made by one government to another.And what I think he was saying after that,was that it would set off a flood of investment funds leaving the West for the BRICS states.Where they would be protected by the BRICS governments there.That is very important news. And lastly,what touches on a comment I made a short while ago.Peter and all the guests when referring to the “junta” called it the “regime”.Not once in the program did they refer to it as the “Ukrainian Government”.They are I’m sure, quite aware of the derogatory meaning to that.And meant it that way.And since they knew (and used it that way),then RT as a company knows as well,when and “when not” to use it.
Well, one often wonders why Russia doesn’t use certain things more in her defense against the West. Cannot understand that myself.
One more word to RT: CrossTalk and Keiser-Report are simply the best shows.
They are (mostly) not affected by this 5th column sh* which one sometimes sees on RT.
Well Martin,at times Russia reminds me of the victims in the US horror movie “Hallowen”.The audience watching the movie see’s the victim about to enter the spooky house.The audience (we) know the killer is in there.Waiting for the victim to come in.And you are thinking to yourself “don’t do it,you know they will kill you if you go in”.And yet every time the victim goes in and is killed.Russia should know by now after hundreds of years that the West wants to kill them (control them).And yet she listens to traitors inside Russia and continues to just “walk through that door”.She usually is able to escape in the “nick” of time with only a wound.But they can’t be sure of that.The smart move would be to “wise-up” and stop falling for the traitors words.But like in the movie,the victim can’t ever seem to “not go into the house”.Russia is split between those that wish her success (the patriots).And those that wish her harm (the 5th column).And can’t seem to listen to those wishing her well.But always has an “ear”to those doing her harm.The question is what will it take to change that.
I like Worlds Apart and Sophie as well, Going Underground is pretty good and the Documentaries, IN THE NOW is best cant wait for the new season-but generally they all make the same mischaracterizations and something has to be done about their political consciousness, It is not good enough to be a good liberal arts educated in the West at the best schools, quite the contrary nothing on the curriculum in these institutions with few exceptions are not heavily steeped in ideological context.
That remark by Hudson is very important and serves as another example of blow back or the boomerang effect Putin said the sanctions would have. The AIIB is open for business now, more nations are trading in their own currencies and all nations including Saudi Arabia are afraid that they will never see their money invested in the States either. So, let the IMF try to screw Russia, they were bankrupt not to long ago so the money they have is probably laundered drug money and QE money, In any case let’s hope MH prediction proves to be the case, Not that I living in Canada want to suffer through the pain but hey no pain no gain and it may just be the ticket we need to go back to the Bank of Canada for interest free government loans and get out of NAFTA as well. Six months notice is all it takes for that to happen. Canada needs to go back to it’s roots of old time activism, nationalization of commanding heights of economy, General Strikes/ United Fronts and a direct confrontation with the comprador rulers this country has been governed under since Nixon went off the Gold Standard.
I’m pretty sure the Saudis are no longer investing in the US. Seems to me that I read there was actually a net outflow of Saudi money from the US during this last year.
Re: Hegemon in Kiev: Looting Ukraine may have to be abandoned for saving itself. The Western Corporations want the Ukraine cheap and quick but that isn’t going to happen. Yes, Kolomoisky made a deal in the spring when he went up against Poroshenko and it looked dicey for awhile –his batallions have also guaranteed Odessa’s “safety”. Oh that 1.8B is just one pay off. Is it true he lives in the US now ( maybe witness protection for a nefarious act?)
Totally agree Uncle Bob. Thought exactly the same thing about the website many a time.
Among other things, is an unusually uncritical report on various gay items – though never losing an opportunity to play up victim stories. Russia has no policy on gay folk – , apart from keeping the Anglo-American LGBT indoctrination agenda out of Russian schools. So why carry so many ‘news’ items for only one of numerous minorities? Why not promote stories of Russian ethnic minorities for instance?
Another is a daily ‘sex’ story, which I initially put down to crude clickbait by marketing. Now I think its to dumb-down the site.
It also carries a lot of Reuters stuff – much of it typical of the agendas being promoted by the western MSM.
The comments section is awful – spam, trolling endemic, but any critical analysis – particularly backed by links – is routinely culled.
So yes, the website is definitely showing conspicuous signs of Western subversion, and the headline distortion you mention is only one of many.
I noticed this long ago, and don’t even bother reading the comments for most part, much less try to comment (and I have had them censored and deleted, and was even banned once). Most all comments are ad hominem, trolling, or nonsense, and so many of it there it’s not possible to find any decent ones anyway.
It seems that infiltrating sites with moderators, and or editors, is a standard strategy for anglo-zionists, as well as coordinated trolling attacks.
Apparently the Russian navy is holding firing drills off the Syrian coast, from Reuters today :
“A source close to the Russian navy told Reuters a squadron of five Russian ships equipped with guided missiles had set off to conduct maneuvers in Syrian waters.
“They will train to repulse an attack from the air and to defend the coast, which means firing artillery and testing short-range air defense systems, ” the source said, adding that the exercise had been agreed with the Syrian government.
Russia on has given notice of several rounds of navy drills with rocket firing tests in the sea off Syria from Sept. 8 to Oct. 7, according to Cypriot aviation authorities and international governmental databases of notices for airmen. Some flight paths will be temporarily closed”.
For those people who consider that president Putin will abandon president Assad and Syria to the jackals this sends a very strong message that Russia is in it for the long run and will never stand by and watch the government of president Assad fall to the psychopathic and satanic beheaders.
The Russians are apparently correctly interpreting the current furore over the refugee crisis as a renewed attempt by America and its UK/EU lapdogs to go in and get rid of Assad under the pretext of stemming the flow of refugees.
Re: Russia and Tartus and its treaty obligations with Syria: Russia transported and stored some Syrian military equipment in a warehouse near the port of Tartus which the Israelis then bombed—this was over a year ago. So with Tom, Dick and Harry flying bombing missions over Syria without advising the Syrian government these days, the problem of having something rather drastic happen is high. The Russian navy using some high resolution surveillance system can at least keep the Syrians informed about which bozo is doing what to whom when. One can hope this is part of their “maneuvers”. and that the Israelis are smart enough to steer clear.
The NOTAM broadcast for that says that the exercise is in 2 parts, Sep 10- 17 appx, then a 2-week interlude, then Sep30- Oct7. give or take 1 day.
I assume that interlude is for extensive detailed debriefing about what to do/not to do in the 2nd exercise, and resupply of munitions which of course means all ships & equipment and personnel stays there in place, and the 2nd part is honing their skills?
Still too much time for the other side to plan & plant some backfire right there in their midst.
French embassy consulair person caught selling supplying flatable boats in Turkey to help refugees escape today…..so they could have a reliable boat.Sort of muddies the waters excuse the pun……hope the exercise scares the**** out of usa…..
Don’t you just love the propaganda still coming out of that small ME country. I think it’s called Ireland? Calling all russophobe outlets for immediate echo-chambering….
Article headlined complete with T90 battle tank picture…..in Red Square:
Russia, Iran sending military forces to save Assad’s regime
I decided to find just one piece of more than trivial trivia about 911, to not bother with posting anything generic that will just glaze peoples’ eyes over.
So here it is in here; just go forward to 2:00 mark listen to testimony this guy on panel about the Argie corp donkeying drugs with them Talibaners’.
Argentina should consider themselves lucky they weren’t designated an axis of evil country & invaded, along with Ghanistan!
some corp named Brightus, registered in Argentina.
They were “running drugs” in cahoots with the Taliban!
Yes they was.
Russia’s efforts in Syria, according to the Fraud-in-Chief, are “doomed to failure.”
The reports today are hilarious. Fox using Porky’s warnings in Kiev to validate Russian military in Syria.
First, one bozo in DC and then the other thief-murderer in Ukraine are now the great analysts of geopolitics.
Last time I looked, the two teamed up in Donbass, and Motorola has stopped them dead, costing Kiev 50,000 troops lost senselessly. The militia has blunted Obama’s wet dream of defeating Putin and Russia on the same steppes that 200 divisions of Nazis failed, where Napoleon lost that same dream and now NATO is frightened to flex its mighty mouse muscles because Givi’s artillery will shred them.
But Putin is doomed to failure. Well if these two war criminals know anything well it is being doomed to failure. Each and both share the Guinness record book of doom and failure.
Sometimes the news is worth it just for the laughs.
A credible article could be written about “Will Spain and the UK survive as states” just as well.There seems to be even more talk of Scotland wanting another referendum.And that one I doubt would fail.The Scottish government would probably take control of the “vote counting” at that one.And the slightest hint of corruption in that count by pro-UK people would prompt an immediate declaration on sovereignty.As for Spain Catalonia has had over 300 years of attempts to become Independent.And the Spanish state 300 years of fighting that.In today’s World if that referendum passes its very likely Catalonia will declare Independence.And if the Spanish government tries a military solution we’ll be posting on “Donbass West”.So while the US and her stooges have endangered the stability of Syria and Iraq.Those are not the only two states with problems.
To even my amazement, no need to look hard or far finding real stories about Sept 23 now very near, & how the stories in the MSM have been fully carried, this one a gleeful pronouncement by another dysfunctional Frenchie, Fabius.
(Get it?—he’s a FABIAN.)
Read at 12 SEC MARK ON the screen shot CFR site headline story from exactly 1 year ago!
Or listen to the CFRer ramble on.
I have a personal interest – one brother married to a Valencia girl (four kids, twin girls, two boys) living there. She is a staunch Catalan nationalist – all the kids speak it as the first language, though they can also speak Spanish (and the eldest also speaks Irish, thanks to one of his nanas!). They understand English pretty good too, but some of them refuse to speak it, while the pro-Anglo faction (one of the girls and her cousin next door) refuse to speak Catalan at times..the Tower of Babel in miniature..:)
Eldest son is a bit of a firebrand – if he was Basque, he would definitely be in ETA – so I hope he doesn’t get involved in anything..his mother has only just managed to keep him out of that running-with-bulls business..
So far, I haven’t heard anything about serious violence. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
I haven’t had time to listen to show yet, but regarding Syria I hear the talking point that Russia will support fight against ISIL but not Assad. Assad and Syria are the major opposition to ISIL in the area now, so not Supporting Assad is not supporting Syria, because if Assad is removed illegally it destroys Syria’s legal and political systems, which in turn would be an advantage to ISIL and the empire — it’s a package deal, so of course Russia will support Assad, and Syria’s sovereignty.
Are we not seeing how Ukraine is falling apart from the destruction of the legal and political systems there?
Blue, do watch this – and many thanks, Saker, for featuring it prominently. I am going back to look at it again, first time I’ve ever needed to do that. There was much in the program I had not known, and really fast paced so all items I know I need to revisit. Many threads being brought together to form a coherency that doesn’t always happen. I really recommend it to everyone.
I have been reading early history (16th century) of the region. I can now understand why Saker sometimes expresses antagonism towards ecumenism after reading what happened in Ukraine back in those days. I also understand why language became such an issue for the east and really even way back then struck at the heart of the new nation that was Russia.
I’ve seen it now. One of the better ones, and happily surprised to see Michael Hudson there. I could listen to him for hours.
I’ve never been into history very much and at this stage of my game I have no hope of catching up on even a significant part of it. But I’ve found that even doing a ‘REISUB’ or ‘reboot’, and trying to start out from just what is happening now, most of it is very understandable and it’s easy to see who the ‘good guys’ and the ‘bad guys’ are. It’s pretty obvious just listening to them for a few minutes and seeing what they do. You don’t have to know where a dead rat has been or what it died from to know you don’t want to put it in your mouth.
Thanks Uncle Bob for nice video of Putin…in jeans no less !! Such a disciplined person eh ? No newspaper reading, listening to people…nice guy…I wish I could meet him.
Darn, I hate it when the show and the speakers get cut off!
I would very much have liked to hear the rest of what Michael Hudson had to say about countries streaming into the BRICS development bank (correct term?). Surely Wall Street, the Fed, Brussels, whatever it’s called, knows this. So, what is the plan to prevent the BRICS bank from getting traction? Surely there is one.
ANyhow, love Crosstalk and am very happy to hear/see Rodney King and Michael Hudson. I don’t recall seeing King on the show but I probably just haven’t seen segments where he was invited. But it is a relief to hear a Brit who seems to see through the fog of media war.
“ANyhow, love Crosstalk and am very happy to hear/see Rodney King and Michael Hudson”
You mean Rodney Shakespeare? Yes, he’s been in Cross Talk a number of times, but sadly not as frequently as others have been. I always enjoy his commentary, he definitely should be invited more often.
Seeing these four people sharing the same screen in this episode was electrifying, a bit chaotic at times but it’s understandable, they had a lot of ground to cover and squeeze it all in 20 minutes that’s never long enough. Peter should consider doing a special edition of the show of an hour, particularly reserved for when he has guests of this caliber.
this is a high speed show..I’m sorry Michael Hudson didn’t get more time..he’s certainly one of the most interesting people in the world. And I like watching him … his articles are harder to understand than when he’s in person…but I might try that book. Its probably educational.
Indeed, he won the leadership and not a second too soon. His anti-war stance might be the only thing standing in the way of the warmongers in Westminster, rumor has it; Parliament could be voting on bombing Syria as soon as next Wednesday.
Does anyone else here find it outrageous that Cameron stated that Corbyn is a national security risk?
How dare Cameron in effect criminalize the leader of the Labour Party?
And sending a very dangerous subtextual message that Corbyn is beyond the Pale and any one who might maybe take a pot shot at him or something would be doing the nation a favor.
Very demagogic of Cameron, I think.
It is CAMERON who is a risk to national security and to a lot of other things.
I hope someone stands up and says this loud and clear for all to hear.
Maybe Corbyn will.
to be serious, I think if those in control think Corbyn has any chance at all in the next election, they will find ways to destroy him, including false flags and perhaps planting damning evidence on him, especially with regards to “national security”, as all those who are middle to right will be mostly susceptible to fall for that issue.
I hope so, but with politicians, you’ll never know. It reminds me of a bastardized version of a commonly used phrase that is used for mutual funds: “Past promises do not guarantee future change!”. I hope it’s not same old same old, but by now, I no longer have much faith!
Great show! Especially Mark’s points about Yats’ youth activities (ca. 15:00 min) and how “Islamo-fashism” has been turned into a reality by the Obama administrations (ca. 20:00 min) are very interesting, and probably not going to make it into mainstream media.
Regardless of who was the cause of the Twin Towers and Pentagon calamities fourteen years ago, and what may be the truth behind the terror and the anti-terror war, 3,000 humans died.
My New York was attacked. Think of this fact. 400 firemen and cops died saving 21,000 other humans in the Towers. Heroes. Over one hundred of those men who died weren’t even on duty. They rushed to help.
When you pause for a moment and dwell on the evil that occurred, the scale of the massacre was only ten percent of what it could have been. The difference was those hundreds of heroes who saved so many.
I salute them.
Very true.Doubts that people have on the cause of 9/11 don’t negate the horror of it (actually they enhance that horror),and the innocent lives lost.Nor the heroism of those that suffered and in many cases died trying to save people.
There are some crazies that actually think that noone died in the 9/11 attacks at all and that that was faked too, but most of the folks in the greater 9/11 truth movement think theyre batshit crazy.
Its not really possible to fake those images of people jumping to death…
@ Uncle Nunzio: “Regardless of who was the cause of the Twin Towers and Pentagon calamities fourteen years ago, and what may be the truth behind the terror and the anti-terror war, 3,000 humans died.”
I just figured… let’s all check the date (?) That is… today! (Give or take, depending on where you’re hailing from)
>>> “3,000 humans died”
I think if you do a body-count in Iraq alone [remember: Saddam Hussein was allegedly “harboring terrorists cells linked to 9/11 (with no evidence supporting such ludicrous claims) and besides that, he was also “hoarding stock-piles of non-existent WMDs”
Because: “[..] we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud” _Dubbaya’s quote]
I repeat: if you do a body-count in Iraq alone …it would dwarf the number of dead in Manhattan, either at that fateful false-flag day itself, or later; by the cancer-induced deaths on the first responders breathing-in the asbestos filled air, that was famously declared: “safe to breathe”
United States Environmental Protection Agency September 11 attacks pollution controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency_September_11_attacks_pollution_controversy
^And I’m not vouching for Wikipedia’s veracity, btw. It’s just that this 9/11 first responders’ cancers is so widely acknowledged by now, that not many people are contesting this fact anymore (because it’s [and was to begin with] so goddamn obvious!)
As you can see the Truth cannot be buried alongside the fresh-killed bodies.
Because Truth, with a capital T, endures. One way or another it does.
Never the less, my original point was; we should spare a thought for the Afghanis and Iraqis who died needlessly in their millions, (depending on who you’re willing to you believe: Afghani/Iraqi coroners or the other side; the USians who are not too fond of keeping count…)
…and all of this was all due to a couple of condemned, asbestos infested buildings collapsing down in Manhattan 14 years ago this VERY day.
-TL2Q
So from your argument and moral calculus, if only 3000 Afghans or Iraqis died, it would have been okay?
Each incident, terror in US, hegemonic retaliation in Afghanistan, immoral war in Iraq have their own tally and authorship. Once wars break out, it is specious to try to cast a moral judgment.
For instance, if you came to my house and killed a few of my relatives, and I had the chance and weapons, I’d probably kill you and everything around you that may or may not be connected to you. I wouldn’t much care about the collateral damage or injustice of it. You began something and got a response. It was not meant to be measured. It was war. And war has no morality.
@Solon:
“So from your argument and moral calculus, if only 3000 Afghans or Iraqis died, it would have been okay?”
In one word: no.
And since your kind seem to believe ‘no means yes’
Let me repeat that: NO!!!!
Means no, means no… means no…
“Each incident, terror in US, hegemonic retaliation in Afghanistan, immoral war in Iraq have their own tally and authorship”
Yeah… but both ‘tally and authorship,’ it all just happens to stem from the USofA and their murderous NATO/Coalition of the willing lapdogs.
It’s all just an unfortunate coincidence, I’m sure… yeah…
“Once wars break out, it is specious to try to cast a moral judgment.”
WTF?! Maybe it was a typo: specious = apparently good or right though lacking real merit; superficially pleasing or plausible + pleasing to the eye but deceptive + thesaurus: false, hollow, erroneous… (could had been suspicious instead of specious? Who knows?)
Either way; I can and I will cast moral judgment on anyone who starts random imperialist wars under false pretenses.
“For instance, if you came to my house and killed a few of my relatives [etc]”
Thanks (but no thanks) I pass. Your example, it’s just to sadistic/deranged for my liking (for one, I wouldn’t be killing your family or anybody’s family for that matter…), so I won’t even address this lunacy.
“You began something and got a response [..]”
Yay! New Pearl Harbor event. Yay! Let’s nuke some shit up in retaliation, who cares who’s ultimately to blame?! …U-S-A! U-S-A!
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….seek help :/
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“It was war. And war has no morality”
Spoken like a true psychopath.
–
PS: This is type the of “people” Russia is up against, and Uncle B, Paul Craig Roberts and many others have been desperately trying warn them against: look behind you! The killer is right there!
[^ A quite inspired horror-movie analogy right there, btw]
-TL2Q
and many of them are now dying of cancer because the Twin Towers were full of asbestos and this is what the first responders were breathing in and surrounded by. Clouds of asbestos.
So clever of Larry Silverstein that he never had to pay for asbestos abatement but instead bought and insured the Towers 6 weeks before 9/11 and got a $4 billion payout for pulverizing the asbestos and spreading it over Lower Manhattan.
Katherine
@ Uncle Nunzio
Q; My New York was attacked.
R; Yes, many innocent lives were lost that day. That’s not the point.
Multiply that day 365 x 14 = [5110] the lives of those we bomb or let be bombed. What would such a live be like [not mentioning all the lives lost because of it]?
Btw, you are the messenger of what?
If one really wants to salute them, press to find out and prosecute those responsible. Accepting is as history and moving on does the opposite.
True, 3000 people died in that disgusting attack. But even assuming that it’s truly not the work of some conspiracy that we don’t know about, how much “revenge” is enough? Post 9-11, US actions in Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan have already cost over 1 million lives, not including the injured.
If you then include “regime-change” actions for Libya, Yemen, Syria, etc, it’s another several 100 thousands. Not to mention say, 10 million refugees. Isn’t that payback way way way way way more than enough ? What makes those 3000 lives worth the lives of over a million, who have nothing to do with it ?
Russia really needs to purge RT of the 5th columnists that work on their site.The good work that most of the people at RT do is undermined by the few traitors permitted to be there.No one familiar with the way the West’s propaganda is framed doesn’t know the “code” words they use to subtly attack a government.If I know those terms,the RT writers do as well.But today they have a story of Lavrov talking about Syria.The headline a 5th columnist put for the article is, ” Russia backs Syria’s fight against ISIS, not Assad’s regime – Lavrov”. We all know the use of “regime” instead of government is a derogatory term the West uses.And any Western reader (basically their whole readership for the English edition) would pick up on the meaning.Used when you are trying to question the legitimacy of a government. If that wasn’t bad enough.Nowhere in the article does Lavrov say anything like that headline says.He only used the term “government” when referring to the Syrian government of Assad.And he didn’t say they only supported Syria and not Assad.In fact the article is complimentary of Assad.So we obviously have a 5th columnist writing the headline, and trying to insert their opinion,even when it doesn’t merge with the facts.This is one small example that I’ve noticed countless times at RT.Russia must get a handle on this type of treachery before these traitors subvert all the work RT puts in to get the truth out.A major housecleaning needs to be done there very soon.
http://www.rt.com/news/315040-russia-support-syria-lavrov/
Hi Uncle Bob-1
You are correct!
In the past (before I knew Saker’s blog) I frequently visited RT and often wondered about many such things. Then much later, during the war in Donbass it became finally clear, that RT only showed harmless things compared to what really happened.
Also the use of the term “regime” in association to Russia’s friends makes me angry.
Don’t they have proper quality controlling? Those infiltrators appear to sit in high positions there, because it happens on a regular basis.
You get the same at Russia Insider.
“[..] Russia must get a handle on this type of treachery before these traitors subvert all the work RT puts in to get the truth out. A major housecleaning needs to be done there very soon.”
Can’t agree more.
RT America, in particular, is plagued by neo-liberal non-entities.
I, for one, was more than happy to see Abby Martin finally get the f**k off my “TV Set” [Would not – will not – forgive nor forget her rant about Russia “invading” and later “stealing” Crimea from poor ol’ “sovereign” Ukraine and the MSM circus her stupid tirade attracted…]
So: goodriddance to her!
After giving this new[ish] ‘Watching the Hawks’ a fair go, multiple times, I can’t help but conclude that it’s a waste of air time, so is this old timer, Larry King, and his ‘Politiking’ [with his never-ending parade of mind-numbing guests discussing endlessly the “differences” between the Republicans vs. the Democrats] and ditto The Big Picture with their American-centered, liberal, non-issues they keep bringing up, that no-ones cares about apart from themselves.
And those examples are just from the top of my head I can think about right now, because I’m sure there are plenty more, especially in relation to 5th columnists operating within RT, a far more worrisome development than a few dumb-ass liberal TV shows no-one pays attention to.
On the other hand, I quite enjoyed ‘The Truth Seeker,’ but it got cancelled :/
No idea why, all I know is that one week it was there and the next it wasn’t. Never pulled that thread to check why that happened, so I donno…
-TL2Q
I liked the truth seeker, but he often used footage in unappropriate manner, out of context. At the time I complained about this to RT, because these things can ruin the reputation of the channel. Some more people did, and they listened!
There are true armies of hasbara bots scanning every sentence, every video, for any discrepancy etc. Of course once in a while mistakes are made, but the removal of that show has boosted the credibility of RT.
In all the time of the Sakers blogs existence there are only 2 (slightly) possible mistakes, although never disproven: the witness report by the lady from west Ukraine of a nazi crucifixion of a child and a fragment calling for genocide on Horomadske TV: To my knowledge the ladies’ report has at least never been DISproven, and nobody EVER bothered to provide the full translated transcript of that particular show, in order to indicate the clipped version was selectively quoted. But on several forums, I was harassed about these factoids at least a hundred times.
RT and RI will have to remain vigilant, certainly after the neocon mole Liz Wahl debacle…
Off topic: Congratulations mr Corbyn!!! (please watch your back!)
Last subject: unfortunately, the last comment of mr Hudson was cut off due to time pressure. Anyone any idea what his point was?
@ Rootman:
“I liked the truth seeker, but he often used footage in unappropriate manner, out of context. At the time I complained about this to RT, because these things can ruin the reputation of the channel. Some more people did, and they listened!”
Oh, well… THAT I didn’t know. I only managed to catch a handful of episodes, they’ve aired the show at very odd times, or very late at night on my neck of the woods, so it was a bit of a lottery for me. In contrast to that; it seemed every time I tuned to RT ‘Breaking the Set’ was perpetually there (now I’m having that same problem with Boom & Bust instead) and, IMHO, Cross Talk is not repeated as frequently as it should be. It is their flagship show after all!
“RT and RI will have to remain vigilant, certainly after the neocon mole Liz Wahl debacle…”
Thank you for bringing that up, best example of 5th columnists at work on RT.
(For those not familiar with this story here’s a great expose on it via truthdig)
How Cold War-Hungry Neocons Stage Managed RT Anchor Liz Wahl’s Resignation
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/how_cold_war-hungry_neocons_stage_managed_liz_wahls_resignation_20140319
-TL2Q
TL2Q,
You know you’re not limited to airtime in watching RT’s shows, right? You just click “Shows” at the top of the site & choose the one you want to watch, whenever.
@ Anonymous:
Yeah, I know. But with my bandwidth limitations -> they charge me for every single megabyte I download, that’s also the reason why I can’t watch most of the videos post in here and I’m forever in the look out for transcripts.
A very good show today.There were several very important points discussed on the show. 1st,they discussed Yatsenyuks Chechnya accusation.So maybe there is something to that story after all. 2nd,the missing almost 2 billion dollars in IMF money.And my question is why haven’t Russia and China demanded answers on that.The US may control the Fund.But other nations contribute money to it as well.And part of that missing money was Russian and Chinese government funds.3rd,what Michael Hudson talked about at the end (he was cut off because they were out of time,but that is an important issue).That the West may very well try to screw Russia out of the 3 billion owed to her by Ukraine.And he seemed to be saying if they do, it would remove any legal protection for loans made by one government to another.And what I think he was saying after that,was that it would set off a flood of investment funds leaving the West for the BRICS states.Where they would be protected by the BRICS governments there.That is very important news. And lastly,what touches on a comment I made a short while ago.Peter and all the guests when referring to the “junta” called it the “regime”.Not once in the program did they refer to it as the “Ukrainian Government”.They are I’m sure, quite aware of the derogatory meaning to that.And meant it that way.And since they knew (and used it that way),then RT as a company knows as well,when and “when not” to use it.
You are asking good questions, UB.
More please.
Well, one often wonders why Russia doesn’t use certain things more in her defense against the West. Cannot understand that myself.
One more word to RT: CrossTalk and Keiser-Report are simply the best shows.
They are (mostly) not affected by this 5th column sh* which one sometimes sees on RT.
Well Martin,at times Russia reminds me of the victims in the US horror movie “Hallowen”.The audience watching the movie see’s the victim about to enter the spooky house.The audience (we) know the killer is in there.Waiting for the victim to come in.And you are thinking to yourself “don’t do it,you know they will kill you if you go in”.And yet every time the victim goes in and is killed.Russia should know by now after hundreds of years that the West wants to kill them (control them).And yet she listens to traitors inside Russia and continues to just “walk through that door”.She usually is able to escape in the “nick” of time with only a wound.But they can’t be sure of that.The smart move would be to “wise-up” and stop falling for the traitors words.But like in the movie,the victim can’t ever seem to “not go into the house”.Russia is split between those that wish her success (the patriots).And those that wish her harm (the 5th column).And can’t seem to listen to those wishing her well.But always has an “ear”to those doing her harm.The question is what will it take to change that.
very funny, but I think you are right.
I like Worlds Apart and Sophie as well, Going Underground is pretty good and the Documentaries, IN THE NOW is best cant wait for the new season-but generally they all make the same mischaracterizations and something has to be done about their political consciousness, It is not good enough to be a good liberal arts educated in the West at the best schools, quite the contrary nothing on the curriculum in these institutions with few exceptions are not heavily steeped in ideological context.
That remark by Hudson is very important and serves as another example of blow back or the boomerang effect Putin said the sanctions would have. The AIIB is open for business now, more nations are trading in their own currencies and all nations including Saudi Arabia are afraid that they will never see their money invested in the States either. So, let the IMF try to screw Russia, they were bankrupt not to long ago so the money they have is probably laundered drug money and QE money, In any case let’s hope MH prediction proves to be the case, Not that I living in Canada want to suffer through the pain but hey no pain no gain and it may just be the ticket we need to go back to the Bank of Canada for interest free government loans and get out of NAFTA as well. Six months notice is all it takes for that to happen. Canada needs to go back to it’s roots of old time activism, nationalization of commanding heights of economy, General Strikes/ United Fronts and a direct confrontation with the comprador rulers this country has been governed under since Nixon went off the Gold Standard.
RR, That sounds a wonderful program for Canada.
I’m pretty sure the Saudis are no longer investing in the US. Seems to me that I read there was actually a net outflow of Saudi money from the US during this last year.
Re: Hegemon in Kiev: Looting Ukraine may have to be abandoned for saving itself. The Western Corporations want the Ukraine cheap and quick but that isn’t going to happen. Yes, Kolomoisky made a deal in the spring when he went up against Poroshenko and it looked dicey for awhile –his batallions have also guaranteed Odessa’s “safety”. Oh that 1.8B is just one pay off. Is it true he lives in the US now ( maybe witness protection for a nefarious act?)
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/citi-china-pull-everyone-2-141800070.html
Totally agree Uncle Bob. Thought exactly the same thing about the website many a time.
Among other things, is an unusually uncritical report on various gay items – though never losing an opportunity to play up victim stories. Russia has no policy on gay folk – , apart from keeping the Anglo-American LGBT indoctrination agenda out of Russian schools. So why carry so many ‘news’ items for only one of numerous minorities? Why not promote stories of Russian ethnic minorities for instance?
Another is a daily ‘sex’ story, which I initially put down to crude clickbait by marketing. Now I think its to dumb-down the site.
It also carries a lot of Reuters stuff – much of it typical of the agendas being promoted by the western MSM.
The comments section is awful – spam, trolling endemic, but any critical analysis – particularly backed by links – is routinely culled.
So yes, the website is definitely showing conspicuous signs of Western subversion, and the headline distortion you mention is only one of many.
I concur with both you and Uncle Bob.
I noticed this long ago, and don’t even bother reading the comments for most part, much less try to comment (and I have had them censored and deleted, and was even banned once). Most all comments are ad hominem, trolling, or nonsense, and so many of it there it’s not possible to find any decent ones anyway.
It seems that infiltrating sites with moderators, and or editors, is a standard strategy for anglo-zionists, as well as coordinated trolling attacks.
RT: Its coverage of Donbass has faded and is minimal. The only decent feature is Crosstalk.
I’m very worried about the Catalonians occupied by Spain.
I sincerely hope this will not end in bloodshed:
Gateway to Catalan Republic: Hundreds of 1,000s rally for independence in Barcelona
http://www.rt.com/news/315070-catalan-independence-rally-barcelona/
I am sure that Catalonia will be attacked by the Spanish military if it separates.
And the heat in Venezuela is being turned up to ten as well.
Apparently the Russian navy is holding firing drills off the Syrian coast, from Reuters today :
“A source close to the Russian navy told Reuters a squadron of five Russian ships equipped with guided missiles had set off to conduct maneuvers in Syrian waters.
“They will train to repulse an attack from the air and to defend the coast, which means firing artillery and testing short-range air defense systems, ” the source said, adding that the exercise had been agreed with the Syrian government.
Russia on has given notice of several rounds of navy drills with rocket firing tests in the sea off Syria from Sept. 8 to Oct. 7, according to Cypriot aviation authorities and international governmental databases of notices for airmen. Some flight paths will be temporarily closed”.
For those people who consider that president Putin will abandon president Assad and Syria to the jackals this sends a very strong message that Russia is in it for the long run and will never stand by and watch the government of president Assad fall to the psychopathic and satanic beheaders.
The Russians are apparently correctly interpreting the current furore over the refugee crisis as a renewed attempt by America and its UK/EU lapdogs to go in and get rid of Assad under the pretext of stemming the flow of refugees.
Re: Russia and Tartus and its treaty obligations with Syria: Russia transported and stored some Syrian military equipment in a warehouse near the port of Tartus which the Israelis then bombed—this was over a year ago. So with Tom, Dick and Harry flying bombing missions over Syria without advising the Syrian government these days, the problem of having something rather drastic happen is high. The Russian navy using some high resolution surveillance system can at least keep the Syrians informed about which bozo is doing what to whom when. One can hope this is part of their “maneuvers”. and that the Israelis are smart enough to steer clear.
The NOTAM broadcast for that says that the exercise is in 2 parts, Sep 10- 17 appx, then a 2-week interlude, then Sep30- Oct7. give or take 1 day.
I assume that interlude is for extensive detailed debriefing about what to do/not to do in the 2nd exercise, and resupply of munitions which of course means all ships & equipment and personnel stays there in place, and the 2nd part is honing their skills?
Still too much time for the other side to plan & plant some backfire right there in their midst.
French embassy consulair person caught selling supplying flatable boats in Turkey to help refugees escape today…..so they could have a reliable boat.Sort of muddies the waters excuse the pun……hope the exercise scares the**** out of usa…..
Don’t you just love the propaganda still coming out of that small ME country. I think it’s called Ireland? Calling all russophobe outlets for immediate echo-chambering….
Article headlined complete with T90 battle tank picture…..in Red Square:
Russia, Iran sending military forces to save Assad’s regime
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Russia-Iran-sending-military-forces-to-save-Assads-regime-415864
I decided to find just one piece of more than trivial trivia about 911, to not bother with posting anything generic that will just glaze peoples’ eyes over.
So here it is in here; just go forward to 2:00 mark listen to testimony this guy on panel about the Argie corp donkeying drugs with them Talibaners’.
Argentina should consider themselves lucky they weren’t designated an axis of evil country & invaded, along with Ghanistan!
some corp named Brightus, registered in Argentina.
They were “running drugs” in cahoots with the Taliban!
Yes they was.
ALL ABOUT THE CASPIAN BASIN/SEA OIL & PIPELINES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ixuf236Dk
Jeb Bush part in 911 trivia (first 2 minutes):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAZkRq8m1xo
MOHAMMED ATTA’S GIRLFRIEND
Doomed to Failure, says Obama.
Russia’s efforts in Syria, according to the Fraud-in-Chief, are “doomed to failure.”
The reports today are hilarious. Fox using Porky’s warnings in Kiev to validate Russian military in Syria.
First, one bozo in DC and then the other thief-murderer in Ukraine are now the great analysts of geopolitics.
Last time I looked, the two teamed up in Donbass, and Motorola has stopped them dead, costing Kiev 50,000 troops lost senselessly. The militia has blunted Obama’s wet dream of defeating Putin and Russia on the same steppes that 200 divisions of Nazis failed, where Napoleon lost that same dream and now NATO is frightened to flex its mighty mouse muscles because Givi’s artillery will shred them.
But Putin is doomed to failure. Well if these two war criminals know anything well it is being doomed to failure. Each and both share the Guinness record book of doom and failure.
Sometimes the news is worth it just for the laughs.
Your comment.. http://www.mintpressnews.com/intelligence-chief-iraq-and-syria-may-not-survive-as-states/209469/
Sigh.
Carter and current Intel chief Stewart setting it up to fail, while ensuring their operatives and co-conspirators on the ground get the message..
I guess the audience must have the collective awareness of an unshelled peanut.
A credible article could be written about “Will Spain and the UK survive as states” just as well.There seems to be even more talk of Scotland wanting another referendum.And that one I doubt would fail.The Scottish government would probably take control of the “vote counting” at that one.And the slightest hint of corruption in that count by pro-UK people would prompt an immediate declaration on sovereignty.As for Spain Catalonia has had over 300 years of attempts to become Independent.And the Spanish state 300 years of fighting that.In today’s World if that referendum passes its very likely Catalonia will declare Independence.And if the Spanish government tries a military solution we’ll be posting on “Donbass West”.So while the US and her stooges have endangered the stability of Syria and Iraq.Those are not the only two states with problems.
You have to know how to translate bafflegab statements in these ‘black-is-white’, ‘up is down’, ‘war is peace’, ‘slavery is freedom’ times.
Clearly it means ‘doomed to success’.
To even my amazement, no need to look hard or far finding real stories about Sept 23 now very near, & how the stories in the MSM have been fully carried, this one a gleeful pronouncement by another dysfunctional Frenchie, Fabius.
(Get it?—he’s a FABIAN.)
Read at 12 SEC MARK ON the screen shot CFR site headline story from exactly 1 year ago!
Or listen to the CFRer ramble on.
(Title misleading on utube)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbry60qGudY
Me too Martin.
I have a personal interest – one brother married to a Valencia girl (four kids, twin girls, two boys) living there. She is a staunch Catalan nationalist – all the kids speak it as the first language, though they can also speak Spanish (and the eldest also speaks Irish, thanks to one of his nanas!). They understand English pretty good too, but some of them refuse to speak it, while the pro-Anglo faction (one of the girls and her cousin next door) refuse to speak Catalan at times..the Tower of Babel in miniature..:)
Eldest son is a bit of a firebrand – if he was Basque, he would definitely be in ETA – so I hope he doesn’t get involved in anything..his mother has only just managed to keep him out of that running-with-bulls business..
So far, I haven’t heard anything about serious violence. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
I haven’t had time to listen to show yet, but regarding Syria I hear the talking point that Russia will support fight against ISIL but not Assad. Assad and Syria are the major opposition to ISIL in the area now, so not Supporting Assad is not supporting Syria, because if Assad is removed illegally it destroys Syria’s legal and political systems, which in turn would be an advantage to ISIL and the empire — it’s a package deal, so of course Russia will support Assad, and Syria’s sovereignty.
Are we not seeing how Ukraine is falling apart from the destruction of the legal and political systems there?
Blue, do watch this – and many thanks, Saker, for featuring it prominently. I am going back to look at it again, first time I’ve ever needed to do that. There was much in the program I had not known, and really fast paced so all items I know I need to revisit. Many threads being brought together to form a coherency that doesn’t always happen. I really recommend it to everyone.
I have been reading early history (16th century) of the region. I can now understand why Saker sometimes expresses antagonism towards ecumenism after reading what happened in Ukraine back in those days. I also understand why language became such an issue for the east and really even way back then struck at the heart of the new nation that was Russia.
I’ve seen it now. One of the better ones, and happily surprised to see Michael Hudson there. I could listen to him for hours.
I’ve never been into history very much and at this stage of my game I have no hope of catching up on even a significant part of it. But I’ve found that even doing a ‘REISUB’ or ‘reboot’, and trying to start out from just what is happening now, most of it is very understandable and it’s easy to see who the ‘good guys’ and the ‘bad guys’ are. It’s pretty obvious just listening to them for a few minutes and seeing what they do. You don’t have to know where a dead rat has been or what it died from to know you don’t want to put it in your mouth.
I would also recommend
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/09/syria-the-russian-air-cavalry-is-coming-.html
[Greived is over there in the comments]
The US backed the overthrow?
They instigated it. They planned it. They executed it.
And to top it all off; there’s a lot of ‘Jewishness’ dancing around this tent pole.
Shana Tova.
A short video showing Putin in Crimea today.Its small actions like you see in the video that make me like him even more:
http://www.rt.com/in-motion/315105-putin-and-berlusconi-enjoy-seaside/
Thanks Uncle Bob for nice video of Putin…in jeans no less !! Such a disciplined person eh ? No newspaper reading, listening to people…nice guy…I wish I could meet him.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/09/assassination-attempt-on-interior.html
Assassination attempt on Interior Minister Avakov by Volunteer Battalion Commander Foiled in Ukraine
September 11, 2015
Blogger Twower @Live Journal
Translated by Kristina Rus
SBU website reported about thwarted assassination attempt on the Interior Minister of Ukraine Arsen Avakov:
[…]
Darn, I hate it when the show and the speakers get cut off!
I would very much have liked to hear the rest of what Michael Hudson had to say about countries streaming into the BRICS development bank (correct term?). Surely Wall Street, the Fed, Brussels, whatever it’s called, knows this. So, what is the plan to prevent the BRICS bank from getting traction? Surely there is one.
ANyhow, love Crosstalk and am very happy to hear/see Rodney King and Michael Hudson. I don’t recall seeing King on the show but I probably just haven’t seen segments where he was invited. But it is a relief to hear a Brit who seems to see through the fog of media war.
Katherine
“ANyhow, love Crosstalk and am very happy to hear/see Rodney King and Michael Hudson”
You mean Rodney Shakespeare? Yes, he’s been in Cross Talk a number of times, but sadly not as frequently as others have been. I always enjoy his commentary, he definitely should be invited more often.
Seeing these four people sharing the same screen in this episode was electrifying, a bit chaotic at times but it’s understandable, they had a lot of ground to cover and squeeze it all in 20 minutes that’s never long enough. Peter should consider doing a special edition of the show of an hour, particularly reserved for when he has guests of this caliber.
-TL2Q
@ TooLegit2Quit,
Q; Seeing these four people sharing the same screen in this episode was electrifying,
R; That’s true, but one thing always keep nagging [in the back of my mind]; why are so few women invited to join Crosstalk?
this is a high speed show..I’m sorry Michael Hudson didn’t get more time..he’s certainly one of the most interesting people in the world. And I like watching him … his articles are harder to understand than when he’s in person…but I might try that book. Its probably educational.
Corbyn was just elected head of the Labour Party in the UK. Maybe a good thing for the World ?
Yay!!!!
Katherine
Indeed, he won the leadership and not a second too soon. His anti-war stance might be the only thing standing in the way of the warmongers in Westminster, rumor has it; Parliament could be voting on bombing Syria as soon as next Wednesday.
Does anyone else here find it outrageous that Cameron stated that Corbyn is a national security risk?
How dare Cameron in effect criminalize the leader of the Labour Party?
And sending a very dangerous subtextual message that Corbyn is beyond the Pale and any one who might maybe take a pot shot at him or something would be doing the nation a favor.
Very demagogic of Cameron, I think.
It is CAMERON who is a risk to national security and to a lot of other things.
I hope someone stands up and says this loud and clear for all to hear.
Maybe Corbyn will.
Katherine
to be serious, I think if those in control think Corbyn has any chance at all in the next election, they will find ways to destroy him, including false flags and perhaps planting damning evidence on him, especially with regards to “national security”, as all those who are middle to right will be mostly susceptible to fall for that issue.
What will be interesting is how he links up with the sovialist i mean socialist (interesting slip of the finger there)and left parties /groups inEU
I hope so, but with politicians, you’ll never know. It reminds me of a bastardized version of a commonly used phrase that is used for mutual funds: “Past promises do not guarantee future change!”. I hope it’s not same old same old, but by now, I no longer have much faith!
Where’s Bot Tak
Q; Where’s Bot Tak [?]
R; No idea. Haven’t seen him/her around for a while, so, I hope s/he’s on a well deserved holiday/trip or something.
I was wondering the same thing.