Who wouldn’t trust their sons to this man? A brilliant, proven master of enormous undertakings for decades. Now the top of the military command and MIC.
He continues to link the spiritual and patriotic values of Russia in all his endeavors.
Perfect friend and partner in Putin’s government.
Compare him to the deviant from UK (Williamson) or the psycho from the US (Maddog). Rabid Russophobes and warmongers flirting with nuclear catastrophe and supporting military war crimes in 7 known wars and untold covert wars, probably a score or two on six continents.
Well said Larchmonter. There is that about Shoigu that makes me think that, on a dark night, I”d trust him to help me.
There was a great montage photo somewhere, of the Defence Ministers of most of Europe and Scandinavia — all girls sitting giggling together; very “liberal”style ladies. [You’d have to ask yourself, what they would know about defence], and next to them Shoigu, grim faced and in uniform.
Ask yourself, if the bombs started flying, which one you would rather have leading the forces defending you!!
One only has to look at his work as Minister in charge of МЧС (Ministry of Emergency Situations) to know just how capable he is. He moulded a number of disparate organisations into one cohesive and competent organisation.
Yes, he was the guy on the move from day one. No bullshit from this man.
I remember reading about him and how he took care of the broken heating system in the middle of a terrible winter way way out on the far Eastern side of Russia.
I think Putin is lucky to have Sergei Shoigu and Sergei Lavrov by his side, as both are professionals. For those of you who don’t know it, Sergei Shoigu is not an Orthodox Christian, but a Buddhist.
I heard Mr. Shoigu refer once to a church in Russia in which he was baptized. Yet I wouldn’t doubt at all that our lord Buddha as some are wont to call him might have baptized.
Perhaps you should go back and see the transcripts again.
His boss, the Commander in Chief, stated that Shoigu’s comments were made in co-ordination with himself – he supports them.
Deeds do count, not words.
We will see. But first we will hear a lot that Putin is a long track runner and also a chess grandmaster. However, I wonder if he (and Russia) will live long enough to see at least some minor victory happen.
Terrorists together with their US and Israeli pimps will be saved from Idlib, some day they will appear either in Europe as migrants or in Kavkaz as “freedom” fighters/rebels again.
The USA have won in Syria, and what was the original reason/excuse of Russia to get involved in the war 3 years ago?
Washington and its catamites always claim to have won – it’s part of their propaganda technique. They probably claim to have won in Korea and Vietnam, not to mention Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia…
The same technique is used by professional criminals when apprehended. Deny everything and lie when necessary.
On current appearances, one might argue plausibly that the Turks have won a good deal in Syria. They may end up with a goodly wedge of extra territory – and it will be amusing to see what the Washington people have to say about that. (Since they are so positive that it is “simply not on” for one country to grab territory from another in the 21st century).
If Turkey does get some of Syria, the Syrians will still be vastly better off than they were three years ago. The country has been saved, the government remains, and millions of people are still alive and may get their peaceful lives back.
What would be the quid pro quo? If Turkey can be permanently detached from NATO, and join itself to the Asian bloc of China, Russia, Iran, Pakistan, maybe India, Mongolia, the -stans, Iraq and Syria… Russia’s south-western border would be greatly strengthened, at perhaps acceptable cost to Syria. After all, much depends on how far back in history you look. A century ago, the Ottoman Empire included the whole Near and Middle East (including Iran), Saudi Arabia and the Gulf, and much of North Africa. Maybe it’s not too dreadful if the Turks get a sliver back here and there – as long as the occupants don’t mind.
Assad will cut a deal with his own Syrian Kurds and take back every inch of soil.
Turkey has the life timeline of the Sultan, no more. And he is destined for termination when the US wants him gone.
He holds no turf inside Syria that isn’t infested with crazies who will be turned on him and his military.
His economy can be racked and destabilized in a few months.
He is completely dependent on Russian Intel and Military to watch his flanks.
He has created a prison of his society.
Even his ideology of Muslim Brotherhood is shared by the outcast Qataris only.
Can he fight a war internally against Kurds, externally against Kurds, feed and pay 100,000 crazies, handled 2-3 million refugees camped inside his country, and fight a war against Syria,Hezbollah and Iranian militias if it comes to that?
Erdogan made a bargain with devils, sold it to himself, and Putin said to him, go for it, knowing Erdogan is sawing off the limb of the tree on which Erdogan sits.
Time is on the side of Assad. If Iran had waited and not pursued its own goals inside Syria, the war would be 99% over, and not subject to Israeli and US manipulations.
There will be more tragedy and heinous violence in Idlib and the Russians and Syrians will have to move the Turks aside and destroy the crazies. Waiting is advantageous because Russia and Syrian forces gain turf without having to fight to get it. And Russia gains more detailed Intel on the order of battle of the al Nusra and AQ units. When the Aerospace Forces strike, it will be ever more effective a month or two from now. (The ill-fated Il-20 was doing just this mission for hours before it was destroyed on landing approach.)
Mr Putin’s very last words were that the MoD statement had been approved by him. In other words he agreed with what was said.
The message that the President chooses to give on a particular occasion may be slightly different from that of the MoD. That doesn’t mean they are incompatible – just different views of the same policy.
Anonymous
Wrong. Sergei Shoigu is a soldier, and he responded like a soldier. Putin is a political leader, and he responded diplomatically. Shoigu was not “overruled by his boss”. Shoigu is fact delivered Putin’s message.
The kinetic aspects of the struggle for a Multi-polar World Respecting the Rule of Law are of course, very significant and must be diligently attended to in every state’s homeland and capacity to project into one’s periphery of vital national interest …to support allies or deter unfriendly neighbors.
However, here’s a wild guess for you: I don’t think it’s absurd to hypothesize that Putin’s restraint and refusal to hastily respond kinetically in regard to the deaths of the 14 Russian airmen comes from a global perspective that sees much less risk and much more reward letting other, more decisive moves be played out on the global chessboard.
Who knows the full extent about Helsinki and the passing of the football from VVP to DJT??
Not I.
But this is rather interesting from Stroppy Me, Down Under.
Pause it right there on Sorcha’s blog…because the text doesn’t stay up very long….just a few seconds.
For the second time I see Stroppy Down Under links a short paragraph or two by an ostensible Russian Journalist, Sorcha Faal “for my Western Subscribers”, regarding a “report circulating in the Kremlin”.
Paradoxically, could it be that sometimes the really decisive active front is not kinetics in Donbass or Syria……but very far away…….in a non-kinetic struggle…..in Washington??
Gives an interesting ironical twist, with multiple meanings to the old movie meme “Hunt for Red October”. Kind of turned inside out and in reverse.
Defense Minister Shoigu comes across as straightforward, quietly confident and one without guile or pretense. Neocons, exceptionalists and assorted vassals with their insults, treachery and jingoism might do well to not underestimate him.
I think that Mr. Shoigu is really a very wise, good and honest man and the best for Russia, I am very impressed for his idea about churches for remembering the Great Patriotic War and to be a spiritual place for Russian Armed Forces. He would have been a great Defense Minister of a great country like “before Gorbachev USSR”. That said I am sad because the political environement that sorround Shoigu is no so clear and not so good to say the least. Often I ask myself how many small, medium and big traitors and trojan horses like Yeltsin and Gorbachev there are everywhere in Russia, also in Government, National Agecies and Armed Forces, for every good Shoigu and for every good russian soldier.
PS. the USSR in ’70 and ’80 held bigger and more complex exercises like Okean for VMF an Zapad for Army and Air Forces. Once that was absolutely normal not an extraordinary event like for the new liberal Russia.
Well, this guy is probably the most capable manager in Russia. Imagine the size and complexity of this excersize, thousands of planes, ships, trains in one sinchonized movement. No wonder OTAN guys in Brussels are filling up their pants. They can bark as much as they want, tsunami from the east will one day shut them up.
My favourite part of an excellent interview was when the journalist asked why the Russians were so open about their manoeuvres, inviting 80 or so foreign journalists and showing them everything.
After his habitual slight pause – I like a man who thinks before he speaks – Mr Shoigu replied, “When they see how capable our armed forces are, I think it helps to curb their enthusiasm a little”.
What magnificent understatement! I actually think Abraham Lincoln would get along well with Mr Putin and Mr Shoigu – as would General Grant.
When I hear those Russian leaders speak, I get the very comforting feeling of being among adults – mature, humane, law-abiding, sympathetic. Which is a marvellous contrast to the violent, spoiled, ignorant children who seem to be in charge of the West.
Lincoln and Grant were the utter antithesis of Defense Minster Shoigu. They made total war against civilians in the American War Between the States and committed genocide against the Plains Indians. I do not believe that the good general resembles them in the least!
Excuse me but? I’m so tired of being like the chess game with an intelligent battle of war? Nothing can be so wrong. Just looking at reality. The Americans in modern times only a world champion, Robert Fisher, against the amazing world champion of the Russians throughout the ages. Sorry to resemble today’s intelligence with this passive, idiotic war game like chess player, it’s all about the forest. The Americans with Israel through history fake, unreliable grants and massacres. They understand nothing but action through muscle power, theories and games they see as weakness – Sure, they love Russia and China because they are good chess players. Sick!
Well done video. It was wonderful when Shoigu was speaking about the vast sweep of the operation the camera moved to a long, long shot down the table at right angles to the interview and held it just long enough.
Nice touch… creative. And it seems as if a new hopeful creativity is starting to shine forth from Russia.
Also love the meme of Putin shooting a Kalashnikov which was bandied about the web and in social media. There is No playing golf for this man while his soldiers are ambushed and killed!
I hate these war games – so destructive – all the wild animals that die – to say nothing about the pollution – and although I don’t buy onto the global warming thing – its WAR – missiles – atomic testing and planes that cause all those noxious fumes – that are killing our planet –
Who wouldn’t trust their sons to this man? A brilliant, proven master of enormous undertakings for decades. Now the top of the military command and MIC.
He continues to link the spiritual and patriotic values of Russia in all his endeavors.
Perfect friend and partner in Putin’s government.
Compare him to the deviant from UK (Williamson) or the psycho from the US (Maddog). Rabid Russophobes and warmongers flirting with nuclear catastrophe and supporting military war crimes in 7 known wars and untold covert wars, probably a score or two on six continents.
Well said Larchmonter. There is that about Shoigu that makes me think that, on a dark night, I”d trust him to help me.
There was a great montage photo somewhere, of the Defence Ministers of most of Europe and Scandinavia — all girls sitting giggling together; very “liberal”style ladies. [You’d have to ask yourself, what they would know about defence], and next to them Shoigu, grim faced and in uniform.
Ask yourself, if the bombs started flying, which one you would rather have leading the forces defending you!!
He may just replace Putin as President when Putin retires, no better choice. Lavrov definitely not, he is too Americanized.
Lavrov is a career diplomat – and a superb one. Too specialised to run for President, I think. And too valuable to lose in his present role.
One only has to look at his work as Minister in charge of МЧС (Ministry of Emergency Situations) to know just how capable he is. He moulded a number of disparate organisations into one cohesive and competent organisation.
Yes, he was the guy on the move from day one. No bullshit from this man.
I remember reading about him and how he took care of the broken heating system in the middle of a terrible winter way way out on the far Eastern side of Russia.
Sadly, the ‘deviant from the UK’ only has proven expertise in selling fireplaces, nothing else. I kid you not.
Well, the UK doesn’t need any defending so the job is a sinecure.
I think Putin is lucky to have Sergei Shoigu and Sergei Lavrov by his side, as both are professionals. For those of you who don’t know it, Sergei Shoigu is not an Orthodox Christian, but a Buddhist.
I heard Mr. Shoigu refer once to a church in Russia in which he was baptized. Yet I wouldn’t doubt at all that our lord Buddha as some are wont to call him might have baptized.
Doesn’t matter what Shoigu has to say he got overruled by his boss.
Perhaps you should go back and see the transcripts again.
His boss, the Commander in Chief, stated that Shoigu’s comments were made in co-ordination with himself – he supports them.
Deeds do count, not words.
We will see. But first we will hear a lot that Putin is a long track runner and also a chess grandmaster. However, I wonder if he (and Russia) will live long enough to see at least some minor victory happen.
Terrorists together with their US and Israeli pimps will be saved from Idlib, some day they will appear either in Europe as migrants or in Kavkaz as “freedom” fighters/rebels again.
The USA have won in Syria, and what was the original reason/excuse of Russia to get involved in the war 3 years ago?
tell me when and how the US have won in Syria?
it must be on another twilight zone…..
Washington and its catamites always claim to have won – it’s part of their propaganda technique. They probably claim to have won in Korea and Vietnam, not to mention Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia…
The same technique is used by professional criminals when apprehended. Deny everything and lie when necessary.
On current appearances, one might argue plausibly that the Turks have won a good deal in Syria. They may end up with a goodly wedge of extra territory – and it will be amusing to see what the Washington people have to say about that. (Since they are so positive that it is “simply not on” for one country to grab territory from another in the 21st century).
If Turkey does get some of Syria, the Syrians will still be vastly better off than they were three years ago. The country has been saved, the government remains, and millions of people are still alive and may get their peaceful lives back.
What would be the quid pro quo? If Turkey can be permanently detached from NATO, and join itself to the Asian bloc of China, Russia, Iran, Pakistan, maybe India, Mongolia, the -stans, Iraq and Syria… Russia’s south-western border would be greatly strengthened, at perhaps acceptable cost to Syria. After all, much depends on how far back in history you look. A century ago, the Ottoman Empire included the whole Near and Middle East (including Iran), Saudi Arabia and the Gulf, and much of North Africa. Maybe it’s not too dreadful if the Turks get a sliver back here and there – as long as the occupants don’t mind.
Turkey’s gain is totally ephemeral.
Assad will cut a deal with his own Syrian Kurds and take back every inch of soil.
Turkey has the life timeline of the Sultan, no more. And he is destined for termination when the US wants him gone.
He holds no turf inside Syria that isn’t infested with crazies who will be turned on him and his military.
His economy can be racked and destabilized in a few months.
He is completely dependent on Russian Intel and Military to watch his flanks.
He has created a prison of his society.
Even his ideology of Muslim Brotherhood is shared by the outcast Qataris only.
Can he fight a war internally against Kurds, externally against Kurds, feed and pay 100,000 crazies, handled 2-3 million refugees camped inside his country, and fight a war against Syria,Hezbollah and Iranian militias if it comes to that?
Erdogan made a bargain with devils, sold it to himself, and Putin said to him, go for it, knowing Erdogan is sawing off the limb of the tree on which Erdogan sits.
Time is on the side of Assad. If Iran had waited and not pursued its own goals inside Syria, the war would be 99% over, and not subject to Israeli and US manipulations.
There will be more tragedy and heinous violence in Idlib and the Russians and Syrians will have to move the Turks aside and destroy the crazies. Waiting is advantageous because Russia and Syrian forces gain turf without having to fight to get it. And Russia gains more detailed Intel on the order of battle of the al Nusra and AQ units. When the Aerospace Forces strike, it will be ever more effective a month or two from now. (The ill-fated Il-20 was doing just this mission for hours before it was destroyed on landing approach.)
waited for what? which goals did Iran pursue that hampered the progress of Syria and allies?
Exactly, you nailed it, sadly.
Putin resembles somehow both the Molotow-Ribentropp pact and Munich 1938.
Read here on the betrayal of Assad. I mean, it would be a nice trap set by Assad and blaming the fascist Izrael for the shooting on IL20.
http://johnhelmer.net/gift-to-the-sultan-text-of-russia-turkey-agreement-of-september-17-2018-establishing-turkish-protectorate-of-idlib/#more-19788
Well…..there is a certain logic and inevitability perhaps in Helmer’s article……
Perhaps you should know a bit about how this protocol works; Shoigo says things Putin don’t want to say.
Mr Putin’s very last words were that the MoD statement had been approved by him. In other words he agreed with what was said.
The message that the President chooses to give on a particular occasion may be slightly different from that of the MoD. That doesn’t mean they are incompatible – just different views of the same policy.
Anonymous
Wrong. Sergei Shoigu is a soldier, and he responded like a soldier. Putin is a political leader, and he responded diplomatically. Shoigu was not “overruled by his boss”. Shoigu is fact delivered Putin’s message.
The kinetic aspects of the struggle for a Multi-polar World Respecting the Rule of Law are of course, very significant and must be diligently attended to in every state’s homeland and capacity to project into one’s periphery of vital national interest …to support allies or deter unfriendly neighbors.
However, here’s a wild guess for you: I don’t think it’s absurd to hypothesize that Putin’s restraint and refusal to hastily respond kinetically in regard to the deaths of the 14 Russian airmen comes from a global perspective that sees much less risk and much more reward letting other, more decisive moves be played out on the global chessboard.
Who knows the full extent about Helsinki and the passing of the football from VVP to DJT??
Not I.
But this is rather interesting from Stroppy Me, Down Under.
https://youtu.be/oPn4tWRmGjE?t=852
Pause it right there on Sorcha’s blog…because the text doesn’t stay up very long….just a few seconds.
For the second time I see Stroppy Down Under links a short paragraph or two by an ostensible Russian Journalist, Sorcha Faal “for my Western Subscribers”, regarding a “report circulating in the Kremlin”.
Paradoxically, could it be that sometimes the really decisive active front is not kinetics in Donbass or Syria……but very far away…….in a non-kinetic struggle…..in Washington??
Gives an interesting ironical twist, with multiple meanings to the old movie meme “Hunt for Red October”. Kind of turned inside out and in reverse.
Bro, I think that all fronts matter. All of them are important.
love that guy!
Defense Minister Shoigu comes across as straightforward, quietly confident and one without guile or pretense. Neocons, exceptionalists and assorted vassals with their insults, treachery and jingoism might do well to not underestimate him.
I have the feeling Shoigu is the iron fist in the velvet glove.
When its backs to the wall, you would want this man by your side.
Russians (and perhaps all of us!) can sleep a bit easier knowing this man has their backs.
I think that Mr. Shoigu is really a very wise, good and honest man and the best for Russia, I am very impressed for his idea about churches for remembering the Great Patriotic War and to be a spiritual place for Russian Armed Forces. He would have been a great Defense Minister of a great country like “before Gorbachev USSR”. That said I am sad because the political environement that sorround Shoigu is no so clear and not so good to say the least. Often I ask myself how many small, medium and big traitors and trojan horses like Yeltsin and Gorbachev there are everywhere in Russia, also in Government, National Agecies and Armed Forces, for every good Shoigu and for every good russian soldier.
PS. the USSR in ’70 and ’80 held bigger and more complex exercises like Okean for VMF an Zapad for Army and Air Forces. Once that was absolutely normal not an extraordinary event like for the new liberal Russia.
Well, this guy is probably the most capable manager in Russia. Imagine the size and complexity of this excersize, thousands of planes, ships, trains in one sinchonized movement. No wonder OTAN guys in Brussels are filling up their pants. They can bark as much as they want, tsunami from the east will one day shut them up.
My favourite part of an excellent interview was when the journalist asked why the Russians were so open about their manoeuvres, inviting 80 or so foreign journalists and showing them everything.
After his habitual slight pause – I like a man who thinks before he speaks – Mr Shoigu replied, “When they see how capable our armed forces are, I think it helps to curb their enthusiasm a little”.
What magnificent understatement! I actually think Abraham Lincoln would get along well with Mr Putin and Mr Shoigu – as would General Grant.
When I hear those Russian leaders speak, I get the very comforting feeling of being among adults – mature, humane, law-abiding, sympathetic. Which is a marvellous contrast to the violent, spoiled, ignorant children who seem to be in charge of the West.
Lincoln and Grant were the utter antithesis of Defense Minster Shoigu. They made total war against civilians in the American War Between the States and committed genocide against the Plains Indians. I do not believe that the good general resembles them in the least!
Excuse me but? I’m so tired of being like the chess game with an intelligent battle of war? Nothing can be so wrong. Just looking at reality. The Americans in modern times only a world champion, Robert Fisher, against the amazing world champion of the Russians throughout the ages. Sorry to resemble today’s intelligence with this passive, idiotic war game like chess player, it’s all about the forest. The Americans with Israel through history fake, unreliable grants and massacres. They understand nothing but action through muscle power, theories and games they see as weakness – Sure, they love Russia and China because they are good chess players. Sick!
Well done video. It was wonderful when Shoigu was speaking about the vast sweep of the operation the camera moved to a long, long shot down the table at right angles to the interview and held it just long enough.
Nice touch… creative. And it seems as if a new hopeful creativity is starting to shine forth from Russia.
Also love the meme of Putin shooting a Kalashnikov which was bandied about the web and in social media. There is No playing golf for this man while his soldiers are ambushed and killed!
I hate these war games – so destructive – all the wild animals that die – to say nothing about the pollution – and although I don’t buy onto the global warming thing – its WAR – missiles – atomic testing and planes that cause all those noxious fumes – that are killing our planet –
There are very few people I admire greatly. Defense Minister Shoigu is one of them.
God bless him.