Mercenaries and auxiliaries are useless and dangerous; and if one holds his state based on these arms, he will stand neither firm nor safe; for they are disunited, ambitious, and without discipline, unfaithful, valiant before friends, cowardly before enemies; they have neither the fear of God nor fidelity to men, and destruction is deferred only so long as the attack is; for in peace one is robbed by them, and in war by the enemy. The fact is, they have no other attraction or reason for keeping the field than a trifle of stipend, which is not sufficient to make them willing to die for you. They are ready enough to be your soldiers whilst you do not make war, but if war comes they take themselves off or run from the foe…
It appears the UK regular forces are also in Ukraine along with mercenaries.
The British Royal Marines have carried out high-risk special operations on the ground in Ukraine, according to the former head of the elite unit, who said UK commandos have been deployed to the country on more than one occasion this year.
Writing in the Royal Navy’s official magazine, the Globe and Laurel, Lieutenant General Robert Magowan said some 350 Marines were sent to Ukraine for two missions since January, starting with an operation to help relocate UK diplomatic staff to Poland just ahead of Russia’s invasion.
The second occurred in April, soon after Moscow’s withdrawal from the region surrounding the Ukrainian capital, according to Magowan, who was once the commandant general of the Royal Marines and now serves as a senior official under the Chief of the Defense Staff.
“In April, they returned into the country to re-establish the diplomatic mission, providing protection to critical personnel,” the general said. “During both phases, the commandos supported other discreet operations in a hugely sensitive environment and with a high level of political and military risk.”
Though Magowan did not elaborate on what those “other” missions entailed, he is the first British official to publicly confirm special operations in the country since Russia’s attack began in February. The UK Defense Ministry previously acknowledged that soldiers were sent to protect embassy staff, but has never discussed missions on the scale described by Magowan and rarely comments on covert ops.
Asked about the general’s claims, a Royal Navy spokesman would only say that Marines were “deployed to Ukraine to support the UK’s diplomatic presence,” but stressed that “they served no combat function.”
The Marine unit sent for both deployments, known as 45 Commando, now reportedly specializes in “Arctic warfare,” according to the Times, but previously took part in the Falklands conflict, as well as the US-led invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Troops from 45 Commando were stationed in Norway for winter exercises when they were called to assist evacuation efforts from Ukraine to Poland earlier this year. The neighboring state has served as a staging area for Western military aid to Kiev and foreign volunteers looking to join the fight.
Magowan also hailed the Marines for their help in training Ukrainian forces on foreign territory, saying they have been “heavily involved” in the process and are now planning to train up “Ukraine marines.”
British military trainers were ostensibly withdrawn early this year to avoid potential clashes after Russian troops entered the country, but special operators have continued the training efforts since, local commanders previously told the Times. Ukrainian officers said UK soldiers returned to the Kiev area in April to instruct recruits on how to use British-supplied weapons, such as the NLAW anti-tank weapon. Though that training would have coincided with one of the deployments reported by Magowan, it’s unclear whether those soldiers were Royal Marines
Besides making many points in another excellent presentation, Col. D. Macgregor intercepts a good one @1:16:40:
“…and dare I say his name… generally viewed as the ‘antichrist’ inside the…”
Take note the origin of this remark (western MSM). It’s reference now to both Russia and their most stately of representatives and DJT, identified by the same token as being one in the same.
The origin of that remark (being satanists and minions of the Goebbels msm) crossed up their wording into a double standard in spectacular contradiction. Who or which is it?
An honest mistake? Or one of diametric values made in spite (hatred of Christianity)?
If what the esteemed Col. D. Macgregor says about Odessa is the end game. And the FTX liquid debacle bleeds itself out in her ports…. the Black Hole of country “404.” …
Why can’t the US smell the coffee? Dr. Vlahos keeps asking Mr. Mcgregor that. They both get closer to the reasons nearer to the end of this excellent discussion, but as is usual no one ever kicks it in the ass. The US has been incurably infected by the chosen money power and the infected half needs to split off and go live in Wokenstein with their blue leadership and the pretend red ones too where they can all smell each other’s ass. Yuri Bezmenov said that once a culture crosses the brainwashed Rubicon they can never come back and we all know you can’t teach stupid. Hopefully the other half of the US that still has their minds about them will smell the coffee and make the needed adjustments and we can all live a better life while Wokenstein drives itself extinct.
Agree, Col. D. Macgregor particularly pussy-footed around several very important and “sensitive” Regime issues; and several were also lost in the complex of discussion. Unfortunate!
No sense in getting cancelled. Had Putin gone all out and ballistic the day he became president long back he would have failed within a couple of years.
If col McGregor went all out sitting in a naval library he will not be able to fulfill his goal to educate those who have no idea what’s the reality behind headlines.
It is really amazing how the world can be controlled by numbers that were generated solely by using keyboards and data entries on computer hard drives as interest bearing debt.
In this system, no debts = no money.
If everyone stopped paying their dollar debts, we would all be free of the private money power.
The answer is DMZ – No Man Land – for 1,000 klm – anything that moves in the zone is road kill from a rabbit to two legs
Ukraine means as of unconditional surrender – 50 Klm around Kiev – no more no less – no US Bio Labs -/no nukes / armaments / soldiers / ammo dumps / electric facilities – no life beyond that perimeter
@hello again
I’m sure it will be significantly more severe than that. What you describe is result of reasonable end of diplomatic quarrel. It would happen if NATO accepted terms of non-ultimatum from december 2021.
After so much death, destruction and brainwashing, backlash will be similarly painful. US and its EU root, Anglosaxon establishmet, will be booted across Atlantic. Brainwashed zombies will be forcibly cured in sanatoriums, or put to sleep.
Yes, it IS horrible, but survivors will not be in the mood for delicacies of democracy for generations, after being exposed to consequences of present travesty.
It is simply good to know that such men still exist, men whose dialogue engenders a flicker of truth which gives off light and warmth in the dark and cold reality that is the West, particularly that part of the West known as the United States.
It is a profound interview that will only make sense, if one has been following the ball. I watched all of it. Its´ very occurrence and the location at which it was filmed, point to an important change of mind and hopefully a ray of hope for peace ………….. after the collapse of the narrative, brought about by an absolutely convincing Russian victory in Ukraine. The crack pots in charge over in D.C. need to knock it off and be replaced by people who will not lead so blindly. My take.
Regarding the US military in particular, end the American propaganda and get to brass tacks: the American war machine is not a defensive military.
In fact, it is the opposite: the American war machine is designed to wage offensive wars (i.e. wars of aggression) around the world.
Like the British Empire that spawned it, America is an empire whose economy and way of life are fundamentally premised on raping and exploiting the planet.
The role of the American military has always been to act as the mafia-style enforcer of this American Empire first on a continental level in the Western hemisphere (aka, Manifest Destiny and the Monroe Doctrine) and now on a planetary level (aka, Rules-Based World Order).
That is why the USA has its “defensive” military occupying over 100 not-so-sovereign nations around the world.
Americans of all political stripes don’t want to admit this reality, so they spew Orwellian rationalizations that the US military is “defending freedom and democracy” or “national security.” Bullcrap.
What’s worse, the primary dissent in the USA is essentially a disingenuous fake dissent that crusades for a more *effective* American Empire and war machine that doesn’t “overextend” itself–not to oppose the American Empire itself.
This is essentially what Vlahos and Macgregor are pushing with their demands for US military reorganization or tactical geopolitical withdrawals.
Ultimately, the American military is a war criminal military–one guilty of mass slaughter throughout the world.
In fact, the true Evil Empire is the American Evil Empire.
And it is long overdue that America face karmic retribution for its legion of crimes such as those below:
The idea of the USA must be utterly destroyed and the only force capable of doing that is the American people. For human civilization to progress its time for the Chinese centuries. Until a synthesis of the two civilizations can emerge. These two well-meaning teachers wants a more successful America, but the degenerate DNA was present in the American people (and its Founders) from the very beginning, as the genocide of the natives, the slave trade economy and the Empire building after WWI clearly shows.
Really a great interview. In a meritocratic society these two people (and a few others) would be the national elite in the US. And their like in other nations, the ruling elite in their countries. But in the world today very few nations have a meritocratic elite as their ruling class. Only Russia and China seem to come anywhere close to having a leadership that puts any real value on meritocracy in leadership.
One of the things to remember about the US is their use of foreign 5th columns. The US has immigrant groups from nations all over the world. The US calls that their “strength through diversity”. For the “country” of the US that is totally false. Unity not diversity is a country’s strength. But for a “empire” that statement is true. It gives the US Empire a ready set of people to internally undermine an opponent. Before the 1940’s the best group that any empire could use,and did, for those purposes were the Jews in a country. As an unassimilated element in a country,unassimilated more by choice than in many situations forced on them.The Jews were ready made to not be overly loyal to the country they lived it. Looking at the biographies of many agents (spies) of those times you find very many of those were of Jewish background. If we need another proof outside the US Empire to show that. We can turn to the Soviet secret services.Both inside and outside the USSR those services were staffed heavily with Jews,both Soviet and foreign Jews. And the communist parties outside,as well as inside the USSR ,were very heavily staffed with Jews.
Since before the 1940’s,and even into the 1950’s there were so many Jews that were working on the Soviet side. The US instead went into relying on non-Jewish elements ,and especially after WWII, they used ex-Fascist and ex-Nazi elements. But with the rise of Israel and the Soviets support for Arab states,the Jews in large numbers began to move into the US orbit and away from the Soviets. So that by the collapse of the USSR most of World Jewry and their potential agents turned to support the US Empire.
The Jews though are only a part of the US’s use of foreign elements to control other nations. They use immigrants in the US from many other nations to destabilize the societies of their birth,or their parents birth. Cuban Americans, Venezuelan American, Iranian Americans, Chinese Americans, Indian Americans, Arab Americans, Russian Americans, Ukrainian American, etc,etc. Many of these people are more than willing to help the US undermine their former country. Some of them thinking they are doing something good. Other’s working for money or influence. And still others following odious ideologies damned in their home countries, and that they want revenge on behave of.
With the US neo-con’s hatred of Russia it’s even simpler. Many of them come from Russian Empire Jewish backgrounds.And they have a visceral ancestral hatred for Russia from those times. Something that Gonzalo Lira is only one of a few to have the courage to talk about. In this interview the camouflaged term “blue elites” is the closest they come to speaking of that. But opposed to the “country” of the US,the use of these immigrant elements is an enormous weapon for the US “Empire”. Russia doesn’t appear to utilize elements like that in this war. The Soviets on the other hand knew the value of using elements like that. But today’s Russia doesn’t seem to understand that (yet?).
Your comment about USA Empire using immigrant communities to destabilize their ancestral countries of origins is spot on.
The USA cannot develop as a proper country – as a united one as per the genesis of most of the older cultures and civilizations in Eurasia – because it is run by elites in control of a global empire. The USA draws immigrants from everywhere – the talented ones keep the innovations + scientific/techno cranking and become “second tier elites” who hate their homelands of their forefathers whilst the less talented /mediocre ones(the majority of the migrants) contribute to increasing societal divisions within the USA. Hence USA can never seem to mature into a united , cohesive society because their rulers have no intention for nation building, they are more interested in their global Empire(the money, the power, the ego of being global masters).
Those more talented ones amongst the immigrants already have an idea of glittering land of opportunities USA Vs their backward, unprogressive homelands before they left for USA. If these migrants are rewarded as second tier elites (be it in academia, financial/business , politics), their disdain and even hatred for their homelands – especially if Washington earmark their homelands as ‘evil , Illiberal tyranny ‘ is reinforced . The whole process sclerose the minds of these X(fill in the blanks…Chinese, Russian, Arab, Indian, Mexican etc etc)-Americans against their own homelands should the Empire need them to. Financial and academic elites from their homelands also tend to connect with these successful X-American second tier elites , to be useful fifth columns within their countries. This is how the USA empire operates. Labyrinthine tentacles on every nation – until we dismember these tentacles , the empire never loses , we remain vassals, and the USA cannot develop and mature into a proper nation. American normies are too dense to understand that “diversity is strength” is merely a meme propagated to blind them from the true goals of their Masters in control of Washington.
P/S I am generalizing about immigrants in USA of course. But I think that’s the reality for many of these migrants.
As a son of a couple of immigrants to the U.S.A., and being married to a first generation immigrant, I find the majority of immigrants tend to come to the U.S.A. not for political, ideolgical, or economic reasons, but rather for reasons entirely personal. e.g. getting married, young people with itchy feet just out finding new ground… I also find most immigrants are not all that excited about what goes on here in the U.S.A., but after having made a niche around themselves find their life here quite comfortable, and thus are not ready to get up and leave. One needs to recognize the North American contintant is one of the least populated areas in the world, and thus simply by demographics, and not any sort of politics, offers a person a maximum of “lebensraum.”
As to loyalties, the pragmatic fact is that given a war, a person out of necessity will take the side of whoever’s gun they happen to find themselves behind.
If it is true as Col. McGregor says that Russia is now looking at this as “a war of decisions” it will not last much longer. However, if Russia is considering otherwise it could go on for years. The USA was involved in nation building in Vietnam which used up valuable assets even caused us to going off the gold standard.
A fascinating discussion but one item that Col. MacGregor did not mention at all was NATO. His sole focus was on the US military, what is wrong with the ethos, perspectives and organisation, and what could be done to improve it. Yet nearly every conflict the USA has been involved in since World War 2 has been (at least in name) together with NATO partners. If modern warfare demands a very integrated approach using centralised command and control and ISR then if you are going to fight every war along with a changing mix of partners then you have to have very close integration within your alliances.
The result of each NATO country doing their own thing is evident in the vast plethora of differing weapons donated to Ukraine requiring incompatible ammunition, repair facilities, training etc.
Russia has the edge here – even while there were separate groups (Russian army, Wagner, Donbass militia) they were all using Russian-sourced weapons and could depend on Russia to re-arm and re-supply. Russia also has a truly enormous arms manufacturing capacity that NATO simply cannot compete with in the short term, even if all the members were to agree on what to produce collectively and who would do it.
Bottom line – Russia seems certain to win on the battlefield. What next? Will Zelansky surrender? Form a Free Ukraine government in exile a la de Gaulle? Would Poland and Hungary accept lumps of Ukraine in exchange for official recognition of Russian victory? FWIW, my own belief is that Russia will win decisively be it by steady attrition or a winter offensive but that the US will not accept that victory for a long while.
That would certainly keep the conflict alive – a USA aim. Would Europe agree? My gut feeling is that most Europeans would want a settled peace. Then again, if there are war-crimes trials (which there should be) then Zelansky should be one of the first tried for provoking war, crimes against humanity and in general being a bad actor.
Profound and extremely insightful.
The Colonel always the gentleman.
Very good it’s a crying shame we are the place where the caliber of men such Col. Macgregor will unlikely be replaced
The foundation that produce such men is quite frankly no longer.
A great nation from out of the north:
Ezekiel 38-39
One topic I believe we should start discussing is the disintegration of the United States. The sooner the folks in the US start working on separating, the sooner we will have a democratic US inland and an ultra-liberal coastland. This would lead to a more stable situation since the internal US conflicts would be separated sustainably. This would also lead to the breakup of NATO and the denazification of the EU. I hope American citizens will realize this soon enough so this can (still) be done peacefully. I am not speaking from any position of hostility. This is truly the fastest pathway around globalization and the cheapest path toward global peace. If this doesn’t happen, democratic American inland will pay the price for the rampage of their fellow citizens from the blue coastal states.
I saw a teaser in the headline for this interview that mentioned Odessa. But I don’t recall any discussion of the prospects for Russian control of Odessa. Since I am skeptical of such claims, I looked for this topic.
The interview was very valuable to me, as a person educated by those who fought WWII. Important for its perspective. But they, too, make no predictions about the (hopefully) war-ending Winter Offensive-
Col. Douglas Macgregor often makes many good points from a military perspective. But, it is noticeably he has often dodged the issue or question decided by F. D. Roosevelt that the US will not pursue Empire building as advocated by Churchill Imperialist. As soon as Roosevelt was suspected killed or died Truman followed Empire building advocated by Churchill.
It may be recalled Lincoln engineered killing was by the British Imperialist. For more see the following articles
1. See Matthew Ehret article titled, “The Hidden Story Behind Lincoln’s Assassination” and,
2. Video titled, “Why the US has a unique place in the history of imperialism” and,
3. Video titled, “The Birth of International Fascism via CIA Cutouts & Anglo American Foreign Policy w/ Cynthia Chung”.
Cynthia Chung also has a book out titled, “The Empire Where the Black Sun Never Sets”.
The question then is how will Col. Macgregor consider (if) these references in his discourses.
Very good overview. The deep dogma system of the USSR suffer a ‘black’ death and fell like a house of cards, whereas the overriding greed drive system of capitalism AND materialist systems are undermining their own foundations that will lead its downfall, exploding like a fire cracker. This war is one of mutual belligerence between opposing regimes (Chinese, Russian, US, European capitalists) and they are neutralizing each other at the cost of many lives, physical destruction and cost to taxpayers in the order of billions. In fact, in the US billions of dollars goes into elections that undermine the democratic process as lobbyists jostle their way into political pockets one way or another. Fundamentally corruption. This is happening when we are now in 2 degree Celsius global warming battle that we are losing due to the grip of the mega corporations and the slow rate of change. As things stand, the science says that half of humanity will be in mass migration and extinction events well before 2050 while intense whether impact ramps up. Really clever aren’t we. Personally, I don’t want fascism, autocracy, corporate tyranny, communism, Marxism, wholesale capitalism (I did not say anti-capitalist as such) … rather a synthesis based upon spiritual outlook that is the progressive utilisation of resources and potential. The industrial level cooperative system will be a form of ‘mass capitalism’ and the private enterprise sector will have small business millionaires and be efficient at that level. The rest will be key industries and we return to localisation of production systems. This is also NOT the old school socialism. Whether we get there is highly debatable as 90% of all large fish have already been taken from the oceans and the rest are being plundered by huge fishing fleets. Everyday, 200,000 acres of the Amazon is being destroyed in another act of pure insanity and greed. CO2 emissions continue to rise and now their is a methane emergency. This ultimately is an ideological problem and those in power will need to destroy one another to give those who remain a fighting change for a future worth knowing. Putin is an aggressor but then so is NATO and The US by stealth.
Seemingly, you are a victim of Western rhetoric and propaganda. The USSR never fall, on the contrary it was transformed into the Russian Federation led by a much wiser true Russian named Putin. Western Fascism will be crushed in Ukraine and a new global order is ready and positioned to replace these Fascists. There is nothing as Climate Change advocated by the Klaus Schwab WEF and his Great Reset. Plus, you are in not position to make any demands, ilk. For more see reference above,
1. Text written by Cynthia Chung titled, “The Empire Where the Black Sun Never Sets” and \,
2. See article in The Cradle written by Pepe Escobar titled, “Xi of Arabia and the petroyan”. drive”.
If you look into the Petroyan box you will see remnants of “black death’ – the Fiat US Dollar laying besides the American Empire of deception – and it’s ‘rule based order’.
As for the Climate Change fiction see You Tube videos on the ‘Grand Solar Minimum’.
“PR and Orwell’s Ministry of Truth are passé. Over. Gone.”
“Vlahos and Macgregor analysed the unaccountable divorce between two war realities that just did not touch at any point. However, Professor of Clinical Psychology at Ghent University, Mattias Desmet, has approached the disparity issue from a psychological perspective.”
Best info I have seen on “the mental unity of the crowds” –eventually resembling a “meeting of imbeciles” capable of the “most bloodthirsty acts”.
Dr. Michael Vlahos seems desperate to maintain relevancy in the discussion with Colonel MacGregor who actually knows what he’s talking about.
If “Dr.” Michael Vlahos would get over himself, stop interjecting sounds of agreement the interview would produce a more professional euphony.
As a Former State Department employee, “Dr.” Michale Vlahos upholds the earned and valid stigma of of that government agency of being an incredibly pretentious Jackass. Or as Stalin would say, “A useful Idiot”.
Excellent discussion brought this to mind:
Mercenaries and auxiliaries are useless and dangerous; and if one holds his state based on these arms, he will stand neither firm nor safe; for they are disunited, ambitious, and without discipline, unfaithful, valiant before friends, cowardly before enemies; they have neither the fear of God nor fidelity to men, and destruction is deferred only so long as the attack is; for in peace one is robbed by them, and in war by the enemy. The fact is, they have no other attraction or reason for keeping the field than a trifle of stipend, which is not sufficient to make them willing to die for you. They are ready enough to be your soldiers whilst you do not make war, but if war comes they take themselves off or run from the foe…
-Machiavelli
It appears the UK regular forces are also in Ukraine along with mercenaries.
The British Royal Marines have carried out high-risk special operations on the ground in Ukraine, according to the former head of the elite unit, who said UK commandos have been deployed to the country on more than one occasion this year.
Writing in the Royal Navy’s official magazine, the Globe and Laurel, Lieutenant General Robert Magowan said some 350 Marines were sent to Ukraine for two missions since January, starting with an operation to help relocate UK diplomatic staff to Poland just ahead of Russia’s invasion.
The second occurred in April, soon after Moscow’s withdrawal from the region surrounding the Ukrainian capital, according to Magowan, who was once the commandant general of the Royal Marines and now serves as a senior official under the Chief of the Defense Staff.
“In April, they returned into the country to re-establish the diplomatic mission, providing protection to critical personnel,” the general said. “During both phases, the commandos supported other discreet operations in a hugely sensitive environment and with a high level of political and military risk.”
Though Magowan did not elaborate on what those “other” missions entailed, he is the first British official to publicly confirm special operations in the country since Russia’s attack began in February. The UK Defense Ministry previously acknowledged that soldiers were sent to protect embassy staff, but has never discussed missions on the scale described by Magowan and rarely comments on covert ops.
Asked about the general’s claims, a Royal Navy spokesman would only say that Marines were “deployed to Ukraine to support the UK’s diplomatic presence,” but stressed that “they served no combat function.”
The Marine unit sent for both deployments, known as 45 Commando, now reportedly specializes in “Arctic warfare,” according to the Times, but previously took part in the Falklands conflict, as well as the US-led invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Troops from 45 Commando were stationed in Norway for winter exercises when they were called to assist evacuation efforts from Ukraine to Poland earlier this year. The neighboring state has served as a staging area for Western military aid to Kiev and foreign volunteers looking to join the fight.
Magowan also hailed the Marines for their help in training Ukrainian forces on foreign territory, saying they have been “heavily involved” in the process and are now planning to train up “Ukraine marines.”
British military trainers were ostensibly withdrawn early this year to avoid potential clashes after Russian troops entered the country, but special operators have continued the training efforts since, local commanders previously told the Times. Ukrainian officers said UK soldiers returned to the Kiev area in April to instruct recruits on how to use British-supplied weapons, such as the NLAW anti-tank weapon. Though that training would have coincided with one of the deployments reported by Magowan, it’s unclear whether those soldiers were Royal Marines
Besides making many points in another excellent presentation, Col. D. Macgregor intercepts a good one @1:16:40:
“…and dare I say his name… generally viewed as the ‘antichrist’ inside the…”
Take note the origin of this remark (western MSM). It’s reference now to both Russia and their most stately of representatives and DJT, identified by the same token as being one in the same.
The origin of that remark (being satanists and minions of the Goebbels msm) crossed up their wording into a double standard in spectacular contradiction. Who or which is it?
An honest mistake? Or one of diametric values made in spite (hatred of Christianity)?
If what the esteemed Col. D. Macgregor says about Odessa is the end game. And the FTX liquid debacle bleeds itself out in her ports…. the Black Hole of country “404.” …
Vengeance… irony is Thy name.
Why can’t the US smell the coffee? Dr. Vlahos keeps asking Mr. Mcgregor that. They both get closer to the reasons nearer to the end of this excellent discussion, but as is usual no one ever kicks it in the ass. The US has been incurably infected by the chosen money power and the infected half needs to split off and go live in Wokenstein with their blue leadership and the pretend red ones too where they can all smell each other’s ass. Yuri Bezmenov said that once a culture crosses the brainwashed Rubicon they can never come back and we all know you can’t teach stupid. Hopefully the other half of the US that still has their minds about them will smell the coffee and make the needed adjustments and we can all live a better life while Wokenstein drives itself extinct.
Agree, Col. D. Macgregor particularly pussy-footed around several very important and “sensitive” Regime issues; and several were also lost in the complex of discussion. Unfortunate!
No sense in getting cancelled. Had Putin gone all out and ballistic the day he became president long back he would have failed within a couple of years.
If col McGregor went all out sitting in a naval library he will not be able to fulfill his goal to educate those who have no idea what’s the reality behind headlines.
It is really amazing how the world can be controlled by numbers that were generated solely by using keyboards and data entries on computer hard drives as interest bearing debt.
In this system, no debts = no money.
If everyone stopped paying their dollar debts, we would all be free of the private money power.
The answer is DMZ – No Man Land – for 1,000 klm – anything that moves in the zone is road kill from a rabbit to two legs
Ukraine means as of unconditional surrender – 50 Klm around Kiev – no more no less – no US Bio Labs -/no nukes / armaments / soldiers / ammo dumps / electric facilities – no life beyond that perimeter
lets get this over with
@hello again
I’m sure it will be significantly more severe than that. What you describe is result of reasonable end of diplomatic quarrel. It would happen if NATO accepted terms of non-ultimatum from december 2021.
After so much death, destruction and brainwashing, backlash will be similarly painful. US and its EU root, Anglosaxon establishmet, will be booted across Atlantic. Brainwashed zombies will be forcibly cured in sanatoriums, or put to sleep.
Yes, it IS horrible, but survivors will not be in the mood for delicacies of democracy for generations, after being exposed to consequences of present travesty.
Absolutely fabulous podcast! Thank for the quality discussion. Kudos to both Col. Douglass Macgregor and Dr. Michael Vlahos.
It is simply good to know that such men still exist, men whose dialogue engenders a flicker of truth which gives off light and warmth in the dark and cold reality that is the West, particularly that part of the West known as the United States.
It is a profound interview that will only make sense, if one has been following the ball. I watched all of it. Its´ very occurrence and the location at which it was filmed, point to an important change of mind and hopefully a ray of hope for peace ………….. after the collapse of the narrative, brought about by an absolutely convincing Russian victory in Ukraine. The crack pots in charge over in D.C. need to knock it off and be replaced by people who will not lead so blindly. My take.
I wish well to all.
Will the RRU (Remaining Rump of Ukraine) be a terrorist state?
How can Russia possibly leave it so?
Agreements that are signed bringing a cessation to the Ukraine(NATO)/Russia conflict
will have RRU as a demilitarized territory.
The next phase will have NATO abrogating the agreements and testing the resolve of Russia. History provides an example with 1936 Rhineland.
“Will the RRU (Remaining Rump of Ukraine) be a terrorist state?”
In one word: Idlib
It’s a long interview. Dr Michael Vlahos
Also has it on his YouTube channel divided into 3 parts. Unless it a different interview. Initial minutes seem same.
Here’s part one its helpful if you want to watch it in parts.
https://youtu.be/GhA1yofpkMg
Regarding the US military in particular, end the American propaganda and get to brass tacks: the American war machine is not a defensive military.
In fact, it is the opposite: the American war machine is designed to wage offensive wars (i.e. wars of aggression) around the world.
Like the British Empire that spawned it, America is an empire whose economy and way of life are fundamentally premised on raping and exploiting the planet.
The role of the American military has always been to act as the mafia-style enforcer of this American Empire first on a continental level in the Western hemisphere (aka, Manifest Destiny and the Monroe Doctrine) and now on a planetary level (aka, Rules-Based World Order).
That is why the USA has its “defensive” military occupying over 100 not-so-sovereign nations around the world.
Americans of all political stripes don’t want to admit this reality, so they spew Orwellian rationalizations that the US military is “defending freedom and democracy” or “national security.” Bullcrap.
What’s worse, the primary dissent in the USA is essentially a disingenuous fake dissent that crusades for a more *effective* American Empire and war machine that doesn’t “overextend” itself–not to oppose the American Empire itself.
This is essentially what Vlahos and Macgregor are pushing with their demands for US military reorganization or tactical geopolitical withdrawals.
Ultimately, the American military is a war criminal military–one guilty of mass slaughter throughout the world.
In fact, the true Evil Empire is the American Evil Empire.
And it is long overdue that America face karmic retribution for its legion of crimes such as those below:
How Many Millions of People Have Been Killed in America’s Post-9/11 Wars? – Part One: Iraq
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/03/22/how-many-millions-of-people-have-been-killed-in-americas-post-9-11-wars-part-one-iraq/
How Many People Has the U.S. Killed in its Post-9/11 Wars? Part 2: Afghanistan and Pakistan
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/04/03/how-many-people-has-the-u-s-killed-in-its-post-9-11-wars-part-2-afghanistan-and-pakistan/
How Many Millions Have Been Killed in America’s Post-9/11 Wars? Part 3: Libya, Syria, Somalia and Yemen
https://consortiumnews.com/2018/04/25/how-many-millions-have-been-killed-in-americas-post-9-11-wars-part-3-libya-syria-somalia-and-yemen/
The idea of the USA must be utterly destroyed and the only force capable of doing that is the American people. For human civilization to progress its time for the Chinese centuries. Until a synthesis of the two civilizations can emerge. These two well-meaning teachers wants a more successful America, but the degenerate DNA was present in the American people (and its Founders) from the very beginning, as the genocide of the natives, the slave trade economy and the Empire building after WWI clearly shows.
Really a great interview. In a meritocratic society these two people (and a few others) would be the national elite in the US. And their like in other nations, the ruling elite in their countries. But in the world today very few nations have a meritocratic elite as their ruling class. Only Russia and China seem to come anywhere close to having a leadership that puts any real value on meritocracy in leadership.
One of the things to remember about the US is their use of foreign 5th columns. The US has immigrant groups from nations all over the world. The US calls that their “strength through diversity”. For the “country” of the US that is totally false. Unity not diversity is a country’s strength. But for a “empire” that statement is true. It gives the US Empire a ready set of people to internally undermine an opponent. Before the 1940’s the best group that any empire could use,and did, for those purposes were the Jews in a country. As an unassimilated element in a country,unassimilated more by choice than in many situations forced on them.The Jews were ready made to not be overly loyal to the country they lived it. Looking at the biographies of many agents (spies) of those times you find very many of those were of Jewish background. If we need another proof outside the US Empire to show that. We can turn to the Soviet secret services.Both inside and outside the USSR those services were staffed heavily with Jews,both Soviet and foreign Jews. And the communist parties outside,as well as inside the USSR ,were very heavily staffed with Jews.
Since before the 1940’s,and even into the 1950’s there were so many Jews that were working on the Soviet side. The US instead went into relying on non-Jewish elements ,and especially after WWII, they used ex-Fascist and ex-Nazi elements. But with the rise of Israel and the Soviets support for Arab states,the Jews in large numbers began to move into the US orbit and away from the Soviets. So that by the collapse of the USSR most of World Jewry and their potential agents turned to support the US Empire.
The Jews though are only a part of the US’s use of foreign elements to control other nations. They use immigrants in the US from many other nations to destabilize the societies of their birth,or their parents birth. Cuban Americans, Venezuelan American, Iranian Americans, Chinese Americans, Indian Americans, Arab Americans, Russian Americans, Ukrainian American, etc,etc. Many of these people are more than willing to help the US undermine their former country. Some of them thinking they are doing something good. Other’s working for money or influence. And still others following odious ideologies damned in their home countries, and that they want revenge on behave of.
With the US neo-con’s hatred of Russia it’s even simpler. Many of them come from Russian Empire Jewish backgrounds.And they have a visceral ancestral hatred for Russia from those times. Something that Gonzalo Lira is only one of a few to have the courage to talk about. In this interview the camouflaged term “blue elites” is the closest they come to speaking of that. But opposed to the “country” of the US,the use of these immigrant elements is an enormous weapon for the US “Empire”. Russia doesn’t appear to utilize elements like that in this war. The Soviets on the other hand knew the value of using elements like that. But today’s Russia doesn’t seem to understand that (yet?).
@Uncle Bob
Your comment about USA Empire using immigrant communities to destabilize their ancestral countries of origins is spot on.
The USA cannot develop as a proper country – as a united one as per the genesis of most of the older cultures and civilizations in Eurasia – because it is run by elites in control of a global empire. The USA draws immigrants from everywhere – the talented ones keep the innovations + scientific/techno cranking and become “second tier elites” who hate their homelands of their forefathers whilst the less talented /mediocre ones(the majority of the migrants) contribute to increasing societal divisions within the USA. Hence USA can never seem to mature into a united , cohesive society because their rulers have no intention for nation building, they are more interested in their global Empire(the money, the power, the ego of being global masters).
Those more talented ones amongst the immigrants already have an idea of glittering land of opportunities USA Vs their backward, unprogressive homelands before they left for USA. If these migrants are rewarded as second tier elites (be it in academia, financial/business , politics), their disdain and even hatred for their homelands – especially if Washington earmark their homelands as ‘evil , Illiberal tyranny ‘ is reinforced . The whole process sclerose the minds of these X(fill in the blanks…Chinese, Russian, Arab, Indian, Mexican etc etc)-Americans against their own homelands should the Empire need them to. Financial and academic elites from their homelands also tend to connect with these successful X-American second tier elites , to be useful fifth columns within their countries. This is how the USA empire operates. Labyrinthine tentacles on every nation – until we dismember these tentacles , the empire never loses , we remain vassals, and the USA cannot develop and mature into a proper nation. American normies are too dense to understand that “diversity is strength” is merely a meme propagated to blind them from the true goals of their Masters in control of Washington.
P/S I am generalizing about immigrants in USA of course. But I think that’s the reality for many of these migrants.
As a son of a couple of immigrants to the U.S.A., and being married to a first generation immigrant, I find the majority of immigrants tend to come to the U.S.A. not for political, ideolgical, or economic reasons, but rather for reasons entirely personal. e.g. getting married, young people with itchy feet just out finding new ground… I also find most immigrants are not all that excited about what goes on here in the U.S.A., but after having made a niche around themselves find their life here quite comfortable, and thus are not ready to get up and leave. One needs to recognize the North American contintant is one of the least populated areas in the world, and thus simply by demographics, and not any sort of politics, offers a person a maximum of “lebensraum.”
As to loyalties, the pragmatic fact is that given a war, a person out of necessity will take the side of whoever’s gun they happen to find themselves behind.
If it is true as Col. McGregor says that Russia is now looking at this as “a war of decisions” it will not last much longer. However, if Russia is considering otherwise it could go on for years. The USA was involved in nation building in Vietnam which used up valuable assets even caused us to going off the gold standard.
I should have said..” thus completely abandoning the gold standard.” For it was FDR that earlier took us off the gold standard.
A fascinating discussion but one item that Col. MacGregor did not mention at all was NATO. His sole focus was on the US military, what is wrong with the ethos, perspectives and organisation, and what could be done to improve it. Yet nearly every conflict the USA has been involved in since World War 2 has been (at least in name) together with NATO partners. If modern warfare demands a very integrated approach using centralised command and control and ISR then if you are going to fight every war along with a changing mix of partners then you have to have very close integration within your alliances.
The result of each NATO country doing their own thing is evident in the vast plethora of differing weapons donated to Ukraine requiring incompatible ammunition, repair facilities, training etc.
Russia has the edge here – even while there were separate groups (Russian army, Wagner, Donbass militia) they were all using Russian-sourced weapons and could depend on Russia to re-arm and re-supply. Russia also has a truly enormous arms manufacturing capacity that NATO simply cannot compete with in the short term, even if all the members were to agree on what to produce collectively and who would do it.
Bottom line – Russia seems certain to win on the battlefield. What next? Will Zelansky surrender? Form a Free Ukraine government in exile a la de Gaulle? Would Poland and Hungary accept lumps of Ukraine in exchange for official recognition of Russian victory? FWIW, my own belief is that Russia will win decisively be it by steady attrition or a winter offensive but that the US will not accept that victory for a long while.
Doubt Ze will surrender. He will be “extracted”, and switched to role of De Gaulle wannabe.
That would certainly keep the conflict alive – a USA aim. Would Europe agree? My gut feeling is that most Europeans would want a settled peace. Then again, if there are war-crimes trials (which there should be) then Zelansky should be one of the first tried for provoking war, crimes against humanity and in general being a bad actor.
Watched this in full yesterday. Highly recommend it. Thanks for posting this.
Profound and extremely insightful.
The Colonel always the gentleman.
Very good it’s a crying shame we are the place where the caliber of men such Col. Macgregor will unlikely be replaced
The foundation that produce such men is quite frankly no longer.
A great nation from out of the north:
Ezekiel 38-39
One topic I believe we should start discussing is the disintegration of the United States. The sooner the folks in the US start working on separating, the sooner we will have a democratic US inland and an ultra-liberal coastland. This would lead to a more stable situation since the internal US conflicts would be separated sustainably. This would also lead to the breakup of NATO and the denazification of the EU. I hope American citizens will realize this soon enough so this can (still) be done peacefully. I am not speaking from any position of hostility. This is truly the fastest pathway around globalization and the cheapest path toward global peace. If this doesn’t happen, democratic American inland will pay the price for the rampage of their fellow citizens from the blue coastal states.
I saw a teaser in the headline for this interview that mentioned Odessa. But I don’t recall any discussion of the prospects for Russian control of Odessa. Since I am skeptical of such claims, I looked for this topic.
The interview was very valuable to me, as a person educated by those who fought WWII. Important for its perspective. But they, too, make no predictions about the (hopefully) war-ending Winter Offensive-
Col. Douglas Macgregor often makes many good points from a military perspective. But, it is noticeably he has often dodged the issue or question decided by F. D. Roosevelt that the US will not pursue Empire building as advocated by Churchill Imperialist. As soon as Roosevelt was suspected killed or died Truman followed Empire building advocated by Churchill.
It may be recalled Lincoln engineered killing was by the British Imperialist. For more see the following articles
1. See Matthew Ehret article titled, “The Hidden Story Behind Lincoln’s Assassination” and,
2. Video titled, “Why the US has a unique place in the history of imperialism” and,
3. Video titled, “The Birth of International Fascism via CIA Cutouts & Anglo American Foreign Policy w/ Cynthia Chung”.
Cynthia Chung also has a book out titled, “The Empire Where the Black Sun Never Sets”.
The question then is how will Col. Macgregor consider (if) these references in his discourses.
Very good overview. The deep dogma system of the USSR suffer a ‘black’ death and fell like a house of cards, whereas the overriding greed drive system of capitalism AND materialist systems are undermining their own foundations that will lead its downfall, exploding like a fire cracker. This war is one of mutual belligerence between opposing regimes (Chinese, Russian, US, European capitalists) and they are neutralizing each other at the cost of many lives, physical destruction and cost to taxpayers in the order of billions. In fact, in the US billions of dollars goes into elections that undermine the democratic process as lobbyists jostle their way into political pockets one way or another. Fundamentally corruption. This is happening when we are now in 2 degree Celsius global warming battle that we are losing due to the grip of the mega corporations and the slow rate of change. As things stand, the science says that half of humanity will be in mass migration and extinction events well before 2050 while intense whether impact ramps up. Really clever aren’t we. Personally, I don’t want fascism, autocracy, corporate tyranny, communism, Marxism, wholesale capitalism (I did not say anti-capitalist as such) … rather a synthesis based upon spiritual outlook that is the progressive utilisation of resources and potential. The industrial level cooperative system will be a form of ‘mass capitalism’ and the private enterprise sector will have small business millionaires and be efficient at that level. The rest will be key industries and we return to localisation of production systems. This is also NOT the old school socialism. Whether we get there is highly debatable as 90% of all large fish have already been taken from the oceans and the rest are being plundered by huge fishing fleets. Everyday, 200,000 acres of the Amazon is being destroyed in another act of pure insanity and greed. CO2 emissions continue to rise and now their is a methane emergency. This ultimately is an ideological problem and those in power will need to destroy one another to give those who remain a fighting change for a future worth knowing. Putin is an aggressor but then so is NATO and The US by stealth.
Seemingly, you are a victim of Western rhetoric and propaganda. The USSR never fall, on the contrary it was transformed into the Russian Federation led by a much wiser true Russian named Putin. Western Fascism will be crushed in Ukraine and a new global order is ready and positioned to replace these Fascists. There is nothing as Climate Change advocated by the Klaus Schwab WEF and his Great Reset. Plus, you are in not position to make any demands, ilk. For more see reference above,
1. Text written by Cynthia Chung titled, “The Empire Where the Black Sun Never Sets” and \,
2. See article in The Cradle written by Pepe Escobar titled, “Xi of Arabia and the petroyan”. drive”.
If you look into the Petroyan box you will see remnants of “black death’ – the Fiat US Dollar laying besides the American Empire of deception – and it’s ‘rule based order’.
As for the Climate Change fiction see You Tube videos on the ‘Grand Solar Minimum’.
Alastair Crooke contrasts the above military PR analysis to psychologists’ :
Managing the Ukraine Denial Narrative
https://strategic-culture.org/news/2022/12/19/managing-the-ukraine-denial-narrative/
“PR and Orwell’s Ministry of Truth are passé. Over. Gone.”
“Vlahos and Macgregor analysed the unaccountable divorce between two war realities that just did not touch at any point. However, Professor of Clinical Psychology at Ghent University, Mattias Desmet, has approached the disparity issue from a psychological perspective.”
Best info I have seen on “the mental unity of the crowds” –eventually resembling a “meeting of imbeciles” capable of the “most bloodthirsty acts”.
Dr. Michael Vlahos seems desperate to maintain relevancy in the discussion with Colonel MacGregor who actually knows what he’s talking about.
If “Dr.” Michael Vlahos would get over himself, stop interjecting sounds of agreement the interview would produce a more professional euphony.
As a Former State Department employee, “Dr.” Michale Vlahos upholds the earned and valid stigma of of that government agency of being an incredibly pretentious Jackass. Or as Stalin would say, “A useful Idiot”.