TRANSCRIPT: (thanks to “OP”!!)
(After Ukrainian representative’s statement)
Thank you, Ms. Chairman.
Today many words, many statements were sounded but the first impression I would like to share with my colleagues is that they do not look at the watch. Now it is a half past nine p.m. and it means that it is about a half to four a.m. now in Ukraine. In a couple of hours, the morning of April 14 will come there. Actually, this is the time when according to a criminal order by Mr. Turchinov the Ukrainian Army should be used to suppress protest manifestations.
Many unfair statements were sounded, but of course, the one who outdid everybody and actually himself was my Ukrainian colleague. He prosecuted Russia in terrorism. Why haven’t you prosecuted those who terrorized your government during several months until February 21? Who actually fought the militia forces, who burned police officers alive, shot them and those who protested with themselves together against the government and appeared to be their allies. You didn’t call them terrorists for some reason, and even released them from responsibility for their criminal actions they were doing for several months.
Again, unfortunately several ridiculous prosecutions were sounded to Russia. They said that Russia wants to destabilize the Ukraine, even tries to suffocate it. However, why haven’t you answered our call to start a dialogue about how to help the Ukraine to struggle through a crisis when it just started? Why were you inciting to continue this confrontation? Why have it happened so late that Foreign Ministers of France, Germany and Poland said EU actually needs to talk to Russia about economic prospective of Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova in case of their association with EU? By the way, I have not heard anybody supported this call in Brussels. We were reproached in “suffocation of Ukraine” even when we just refused to deliver our natural gas to Ukraine for free. Let see what will be an answer of EU Ministers on President Putin’s letter about how can we work together on pulling the Ukraine out of economical quagmire on April 14. However, Washington who actually have not been an addressee of this letter has already straightened the Europe calling this letter “an economical blackmail”. Let us see if there is any sovereignty remained for EU, is it able to make rational decisions to save the crisis or not.
During the whole crisis in Ukraine Russia voted not for an exhalation and destabilization of the country – this is not what we are interested in, because it is our important economic and political partner and a very close country for us in many ways – but against this destabilization. And we are not guilty in this situation we are observing now. Mr. Fernandes Taranka said that UN’s representatives began to observe actions that people of southeast of the Ukraine started to do capturing some administrative buildings. By the way here they, of course, used experience of Maidan and Kiev where administrative buildings were captured during months. However, our Western partners called it (Maidan – tr.) “a piece of democracy” for some reason. But they don’t endorse the same tactics when Southeastern people do it. It was on April 6 and 1, 5 months have passed since February 21 when President Yanukovich had been overthrown and an agreement had been signed what should have been able to prevent an exhalation. From the very beginning the one thing we were saying was that we should implement this agreement. Maybe we should gather a Constitutional Assembly, to make some decisive gesture to Southeast of the Ukraine, Were these gestures made? Well, finally Mr. Yatsenyuk came (to Southeast – tr.), said something and left, and the next day Mr. Turchinov makes a speech and says that he is not agree with Yatsenyuk. It turns out that they prefer to use a force.
By the way there were very worrying notes during a number of our consultations with our Western colleagues. Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, as you know, has conversations over the phone with US State Secretary John Kerry almost every day. Every time Kerry shows he understands our confusion and that he tries to do something speaking to Kiev to help them with understanding Southeast’s needs and worries about its autonomy and language rights. But suddenly one of his Deputies makes a speech in the Congress and says “We know that this conversation will have no result but we need to spare time somehow”. To spare time. So, maybe there is a Turchinov’s “army-using” scenario in somebody’s head in Washington? Then let’s stop blaming Russia that we’re seeking for destabilization.
The US representative mentioned that Vice President Biden will come to Ukraine, as I remember, on April 21st. But why should he wait for that day? Let him take a receiver right now and call Mr. Turchinov as he called President Yanukovich several times before February 21. Let him tell Mr. Turchinov the same he told Mr. Yanukovich. And according to VP’s press-service he said “Don’t use a force, in the name of God! Take away your police forces from Kiev’s center”. This is what Mr. Biden said. And what now – the USA will approve this criminal order about using an army? Why when people were going to assault the Ukrainian President’s apartments they called not to use force and now in present situation they have an opposite point of view, supporting Turchinov’s order? So please, Ms. Power, ask VP Biden to call Mr. Turchinov right now because in several hours events could take an irreversible turn.
Some colleagues said about that meeting which as had been announced should take place on April 17 with hope. Indeed, we were searching for any formats of dialogue – during several months and especially after February 21 – which could pull the crisis and we agreed for a meeting of Foreign Minister of Russia, US State Secretary, the High Representative of EU Ms. Ashton and acting Foreign Minister of the Ukraine. We hoped that this meeting may cause a wide political dialogue in the Ukraine, show a political way out of crisis. But do you really think we will be sort out papers while the Ukrainian army will start military actions? Of course an opportunity for such a meeting will be totally disturbed.
So please, let us forget any speculations, prosecutions, searching for Russian ghosts in different corners of the Ukraine and concentrate on what we can do – now I’m looking in direction of my Western colleagues – to prevent reckless actions of Kiev’s government which now released as this criminal order by Mr. Turchinov, to prevent bringing It into life. It will have the toughest consequences for people of the Ukraine and we must avoid it.
Thank you.
(After remarks of Ukrainian and US representatives)
Thank you.
I will not speak long now. I will tell only two things. Firstly, Yuriy Anatolievich, you call your people “bandits” too easy. Too easy. Those who represent “The Right Sector” and those who says today that they need to kill people – those are not bandits, you mean, those are, obviously “political elite” in Kiev now. And those who are protesting now in the East – they cannot act without help of Russia, of course (irony – tr.). Really, how could they understand that things that are been doing by Kiev’s government now is bad without a prompt from Russia? Of course, they cannot understand it. Miners are working there and some radicals are telling that they will come and set there a new order. They will not understand it by themselves, yeah? Only Russian agents may come and explain them that the things are bad. They will listen to it and will agree within seconds, of course. Whole their life experience and understanding a situation in their own country mean nothing, right? Why do you approach so easily to the situation?
Well and what about what American colleague, Mrs. Power, said. She hasn’t shown her attitude to this order to use an army in Eastern Ukraine. I still hope that after today’s discussion as Ukrainian colleague called on some of our Western colleagues will take their receivers, call their bosses and say them to impose their influence on Kiev and not to kindle the green light, because Kiev’s government does nothing without their approval. And our purpose should be to solve problems by a dialogue, not by a military confrontation.
Thank You.
Russia VS World as usual :(
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Mediji dojavljuju o snažnim borbama koje se vode na području grada Slavjanska. Općenito, tijekom posjete Kijevu, čelnik američke CIA-e, John Brennan je dao bespogovornu podršku kijevskim pučistima i isto tako im je odobrio korištenje sile na području jugoistočne Ukrajine.
Usprkos željama Johna Brennana i kijevskih pučista, na području jugoistočne Ukrajine se formirala snažna vojska odana legalnom predsjedniku Janukoviču i uz pomoć doslovno stotina tisuća aktivista na terenu zaprimaju i to masovno lokalnu policiju i specijalne postrojbe u svoje redove.
Grad za gradom pada, svi otkazuju poslušnost Kijevu, a na zgradama se podižu ruske trobojnice. Formiraju se sve potrebne predradnje s ciljem obrane, ali i provođenja ofanzivnih akcija. Ljudi su dobro naoružani i znaju da je došlo njihovih 5 minuta.
Inače, proruski zamah više nipošto nije ograničen na Donbas, a niti na Harkov već se proširio sve do Odese gdje doslovno vrije! Najzanimljivije je bilo gdje su građani doslovno slomili nadobudnu ekipu iz Pravog sektora.
Još nešto, postoje naznake da bi se posjet SAD podpredsjednika Bidena, planiran za 22.04. mogao pomaknuti za sutra. Ne tvrdim, no postoje snažne naznake da bi se Biden, inače jedan od značajnih arhitekata majdanašake priče, mogao sutra naći sa svojim pučistima usred Kijeva.
Uglavnom, mora se znati kako ruski mediji uredno navode da ruske postrojbe čekaju s druge strane granice u punoj sprei i spremne na izvršenje svoje domoljubne dužnosti, baš kao što ih je na to ovlastio Viktor Janukovič, još uvijek jedina legitimna i legalna osoba ukrajinske središnje državne vlasti, a koji trenutačno stoluje u ruskom Rostovu na Donu. Jasno, ruska će vojska biti upotrijebljena tek ukoliko Kijev provede Brennanov savjet o mobilizaciji vojske i rješavanju “jugoistočnog problema” vojnim putem. E tada stvarno nebi volio biti Ukrajinac, pa makar se nalazio u zadnjem selu onog dijela zemlje koje je imalo simpatiziralo majdanaše!
@Mikhail B:Russia VS World as usual :(
Yes, indeed. And that feeling gets even worse when you listen to what the others had to say:
English: http://webtv.un.org/meetings-events/watch/the-situation-in-ukraine-security-council-7154th-meeting/3465821894001
Original: http://webtv.un.org/meetings-events/watch/the-situation-in-ukraine-security-council-7154th-meeting/3465696379001
It is depressing, but it is also an honor to stand along facing the scum.
Hang in there – this too shall pass.
Cheers,
The Saker
Cheers Saker,
Churkov was superb as always. But looks like his speech was sounded in empty space. Especially good was his comparision of Joe Baiden calling Yanukovitsch not to use force against people back then in the last days of V. Yanukovitsch and total hypocrisy now, when Ukraine is on the brink of civil war. It’s amazing to witness such events in the UNO these days.
Churkin, sorry. Well, it’s obvious today that US media is also pushing its anti-Russian, anti-Putin hysteria. Some comments in the articles are quite funny.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/gCaptain/27223368885
and comment:
“The US Navy on Saturday christened the future USS Zumwalt DDG1000, the first of three new stealth destroyers that will make even Vladimir Putin shake in his boots”
Again I’d like to remind recent naval excersizes with Aegis-class destroyer:
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.usni.org%2F2013%2F11%2F19%2Fdamage-assessment-still-underway-target-drone-collision-navy-cruiser&h=BAQFoBDnB
The contrast between what comes out of Russia and from the western zionazi-nazis is like reading the comments after an article on a Jewish website (politically left, centre or right, it doesn’t much matter any more in the zionised west). One lone voice of reality being attacked from all sides by creatures so removed from their own humanity that all they can see is that their hasbara is being threatened and they must gang up on the heretic. It no longer matters to them how depraved and disgusting that what they are supporting and aligned with any more. All that matters is that it is “other”, and that it is the “designated” enemy by those who make the decisions and pass down the orders. A bunch of zombies.
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“All that matters is that it is “other”, and that it is the “designated” enemy”
All that matters is that it is being questioned by “the other”, and that it is the heresy of the “designated” enemy
One of these days I’ll learn how to proofread. :)
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Obama on Ukraine: ‘There will be consequences if people step over the line’
By David Nakamura and Aaron Blake
February 19 at 2:37 pm in Washington Post
President Obama said Wednesday that the Ukrainian government would face “consequences” if it crosses the line in cracking down on protesters in Kiev.
Obama said the government is “primarily responsible” for ensuring the protests remain peaceful, but also warned that protesters need to demonstrate without resorting to violence.
“I want to be very clear, as we work through these next several days in Ukraine, that we’re going to be watching closely, and we expect the Ukrainian government to show restraint, to not resort to violence in dealing with peaceful protesters,” Obama said. “We’ve also said we expect peaceful protesters to remain peaceful, and we’ll be monitoring very closely the situation, recognizing that with our European partners and the international community there will be consequences if people step over the line.”
Obama added of the consequences: “And that includes making sure the Ukrainian military does not step into what should be a set of issues that can be resolved by civilians.”
It’s not the first time Obama has referenced a “line” when it comes to civil unrest in a foreign country. Obama infamously set the so-called “red line” in Syria, but once the Syrian government crossed that line, Obama found little support in Congress for military action.
Isnt it puré hypocrisy from USA and UN?
Courage. There are very many of us in the West who have seen through our governments’ lies. There are foci of dissent in the US, the UK and most of the EU member states.
We support you.
A nomination for the vilest abuse from a Rightwing MSM reptile so far. James Meek in today’s ‘The Guardian’. Really, really nasty stuff, and I counted eight flagrant lies that anyone with any interest in politics would spot right away. The Age of the Big, Big, Lie, endlessly repeated until it gets accepted as fact, is certainly upon us.
* Yats wanted to make concessions
* US feared: F*ck, this could work, mean peace in the Ukraine and even worse: Ukraine-Russian relations would be upheld
* John Brennan flew over, not only to teach ’em how to “pacify” a people (out of their huge bag of experience in this regard), but he must have brought with him some US carrots and sticksf, otherwise this “You know what, we’ll mercilessly uproot all you terrorists” turnaround of the Maidan junta wouldn’t have happened
Here’s how it’ll play out, worst case:
* Yats’ men will create a huge mess, with or without staged provokations – I guess with, otherwise bad PR would be probable
* So many anti-Maidaners will die, that Putin says: OK, enough is enough, and I gave them my word, so I’ll have to give military support
* At the first indication of actual Russian troops in Ukraine, Yats will cry “help” in the direction of NATO, and the US will step in
* Party!
Well, not very optimistic. Here’s the best case scenario:
* Yats’ men will create a huge mess, with or without staged provokations – I guess with, otherwise bad PR would be probable
* So many anti-Maidaners will die, that Putin says: OK, enough is enough, and I gave them my word, so I’ll have to give military support
* Russia has to take care of a civil-war torn part of a neighboring state
This is very bad for Russia, will take years to be resolved, but WWIII is avoided for now. Victory for the US! Nuland’s wildest dreams turn reality – the EU is f*cked.
Honk
Democracy drone above Dnepropetrovsk!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnGL1Zi9vxo
What we have in Ukraine right now is a battle of surrogates. This is a recapitulation of every “Western” war going back to Korea, perhaps to China.
These wars have gone terribly for the “West”. One might think they would learn, unless “winning” the war was unimportant. And if we listen to Eisenhower (who identified the “Military Industrial Complex”), it probably is. War subjugates the domestic population, although Vietnam demonstrated the inadvisability of a draft, and diverts attention from the profits of the 0.1%.
So, in Ukraine, you have “Western” surrogates: a bunch of lunatic nazi’s intent on murder and criminality. And you have Eastern surrogates… but they are not surrogates. They are the indigenous population of Eastern Ukraine who speak Russian.
Now, what usually happens is that when the “Western” surrogates prove to be insane, corrupt, and incompetent, American troops are called upon to try to fix the mess: Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. etc.
What would it take to bring US troops into Ukraine? That was what Brennan was discussing with his men in the field during his visit. What will be the casus belli? Recall Vietnam.
FYI:
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2014/04/224759.htm
Turchynov suggested the UN to perform joint operation in Ukraine
The secretary general of the organization Ban Ki-moon declared that Kiev can count on the help and support
if it is as Yugoslavia, welcome to
WWIII(probably nuclear)
1. Russia should act “intrigued” by the idea of UN peacekeepers, to buy time on teh ground.
2. It appears that local people are doing the smart thing, and taking the pressure off Russia, by moving towards Russia themselves.
3. Again “optics” to use Western corporate jargon, is so important here. The rhetoric of the EU/NATO/US does not match the events on the ground. They talk of Russian invasions, but Putin didn’t take the bait. Instead you see pensioners, miners, and so on joining ad hoc paramilitaries.
4. I think the West is stuck in teh 1990s in terms of their understanding of the post-Soviet sphere. Yanukovich won a Presidential election, even if he cheated to win, that takes a mass organization and sophistication. That same organization could easily fill a power vacuum and take over town after town.
5. It is time for another fait accompli lead by the people on the ground. They need to hastily Russify while the diplomats stall. Kiev has balked at force, since it was merely a western trap to draw Putin into an intervention. This isn’t going to be won by tanks and planes, but by people power.
Kick ban ki moon he is an agent of evil england and her usa satellite
The western media actions remind me of the anti-serb smear campaign during the Yugoslav wars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVDx-TqeWj4
SBU Ukraine released a video with radio/telephone talks of “alleged” Russian GRU operatives in Slavyansk. Irregardless of who is speaking on the video, the talks themselves seem real – the corrobarates Sunday’s events.
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Переговоры ГРУ в Славянске, которые опубликовали СБУ Украины. Интересно.
Ban Ki-moon wants northern Korea, but in reply will receive rocket attack
@anonymous:SBU Ukraine released a video with radio/telephone talks of “alleged” Russian GRU operatives in Slavyansk
I listened to the conversations and see no indication at all that these are GRU operatives. Maybe, maybe not. One local guy has a strong Ukie accent and the other side seems to be hierarchically superior, but that’s about it. If this recording is real, we are hearing some of the guys who shot at a column of Ukrainian special forces of some kind, and they seem pretty happy about it. They sound military, but could be anything, including volunteers. I vividly remember how some of my Spetsnaz friends in Russia were traveling to Transdniestria as unpaid volunteers to fight against the Moldavians. Nobody forced them and they did not take orders from anybody. And they sounded much more “military” in their jargon than the guys in this recording.
Bottom line: could be anything, no way to tell. My 2cts.
Cheers,
The Saker
http://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/politics/v-slavyanske-pogib-kapitan-sbu-gennadiy-bilyachenko—turchinov-13042014184100
This part corroborates the last conversation of the video – about who exactly was wounded/killed in the fight on the Ukraine side.
@anonymous:SBU Ukraine released a video with radio/telephone talks of “alleged” Russian GRU operatives in Slavyansk
Ukrainian accent, 100% fake!
Либо в ГРУ начали принимать всех ополченцев )))
p.s. uploader “Служба безпеки України”
Anonymous said…
http://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/politics/v-slavyanske-pogib-kapitan-sbu-gennadiy-bilyachenko—turchinov-13042014184100
the junta kills the staff of division the Alpha since they refused to attack civilians
The alpha there could kill a floor of the settlement without loss
Dear The Saker,
http://rt.com/news/un-ukraine-turchinov-operation-396/
:(
This is going beyond ridiculous. Don’t the UN need Security Council clearence to send troops? After everything the Russians said yesterday – sigh – I feel like I’m bashing my head against a brick wall – the Russian diplomats must feel even worse….
Can we please get rid of Ban-Ki-Moon.
Rgds,
Veritas
p.s. Looks like flight 370 was an Israeli op.
http://rense.com/general96/mh370rv.htm
Analyst: EMP Attack Would Cripple U.S.
http://voiceofrussia.com/us/2014_04_12/Analyst-EMP-Attack-Would-Cripple-U-S-3827/
This is an interview that you need to hear. While he claims the threat is from N. Korea, he really means China or Russia.
I’ve been telling people about this threat for years, but nobody seems to get the dire situation the U.S. would be in if this ever comes to pass. All things electrical, not just the electric grid as this guy says, would be fried. All transportation (excluding steam power), all things needing electricity would be cooked, radios, televisions, television and radio stations, telephones, etc. The US would essentially be back in the stone age. With a detonation at an elevation of 400 km, the entire US would go dark. And, to top it off, since our geniuses in Washington allowed China favored nation trading status, allowing the de-industrialization of the US, all large electrical transformers are made in China. Of course, China will hop to it to get these things made, right?
While in the meantime, we sit and wonder if WWIII is coming from these psychopaths.
I go back to my fears about Biden entering this. Would our guys order it? Who honestly thinks they wouldn’t? They’d not only get the war they’re itching for, but also John Boehner would be next in line for Prez until Obama chose another VP (who I’m guessing would be Hillary, IF Obama lived long enough to name her).
@Honk, 5:42
Lordy. Also add into the mix our increasing interference in Syria, too depressing to even enumerate and certainly even more pressure on Russia.
Russia is under illusion that veto power will save Russia. What Russia has done is invite the enemy to the gate by resurrecting england directed nato in libya, and not supporting syria or iran to stp anglo at damascus gate..now only thing that will save russia is determination to nuke with massive topol nukes the most of england.that will solve the problem because english parasite nation is the real pest on world and real enemy of russia.
Do not rely on logic with thse english parasites_they know one language onlu
Y _russia must use military and information might against england and rest will follow from that.
Verbosity and logic does not work with evil english race and its satellites like usa. Blast the anglo race.2orld will be on russian side. But not with uno or anything
Russia will get respect only from military win..bomb england first.nuke centre of evil anglo empire.
Don’t nuke London-too many works of art of inestimable value. Nuke the Cotswolds, and a couple of little ones lob into Chelsea and Mayfair. Decapitation of the rotten head of privilege.
Thanks for updating with the transcript.
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Today’s NBC Nightly News had an outrageous report on the Russian fighter jet that buzzed the American ships in the Black Sea. NBC News reporter Andrea Mitchel, wife of Allan Greenspan,former head of the Federal Reserve, opened the news report calling the plane a “Soviet fighter jet…” I nearly felloff my chair when she said that. Now, usually, they post the individual news clips on their website. That one is missing. Talk about outright propaganda, followed by a cover-up! Their phone lines must have been buzzing with complaints.
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Russian intervention into Ukraine is illegal. Putin imagines himself a tsar.