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Like always throughout history the Polish elite’s Russophobia will lead Poland. And NATO along with them to disaster, unless checked. The stupidity of taking Russophobic states into NATO is mind-blowing. I and countless others could have told them how ridiculous a move that would be. If once again Poland is the cause of a World War, its almost certain it will cease to exist this time.
NATO was a Russophobic institution by its charter. So it is just adding friends.
NATO is a proxy, a large force that was meant to receive the blunt of Soviet ground force.
Later, it morphed into a proxy sent to control the third world, to force regime change, to contain other challengers to the Hegemon, to destroy competition in the energy sector. and now to fly air cover for terrorist armies.
But it was, and is and will be forever Russophobic.
Like Israel, NATO cannot exist without a suitable enemy. While useful to the USA as outsourced muscle for regime change -e.g. Libya openly and Ukraine more covertly -and completely dependent upon the USA & UK for leadership and direction, NATO’s overarching enemy has always been Russia.
Poland is a useful tool to invigorate Cold War hatred and keep the fear alive.
Without Russia NATO has no reason to exist beyond being a mercenary for prosecution of US hegemony.
“NATO’s overarching enemy has always been Russia.”
Sometimes emphasis obscures additional factors.
This tendency is encouraged and reinforced through narratives of utility and ways of seeing/thinking, deflecting/obscuring/subsuming perception of purpose.
From inception a major purpose of NATO was to facilitate the socio/economic/political integration of “nation states” within the North Atlantic zone using the Soviet Union and associates, then Russia as the “frightening other” posed as an existential threat.
Some are of the view that by design, primarily through encouragement of NATO’s hubris, Russia was neither perceived nor promoted as an existential threat from say 1988 until circa 1997, although by 1994 some of the opponents were posing what/if’s as illustrated by various phenomena including the US Senate investigations of August/September 1994.
The concept of nation states posits a community of interest of populations within a socio/political regime thereby obscuring components of commodity based regimes such as capitalism, and the notion of sovereignty.
“NATO cannot exist without a suitable enemy.”
There is some merit in your phrase, but perhaps your contribution overall obscures that from inception NATO has always perceived that some populations within their “member states” were/are the enemy.
A further level of obfuscation may be achieved within the notion that by design NATO creates its own enenies as required, rather than by default – by its very existence – NATO creates its own enemies.
From all of the above perhaps opportunities of lateral challenge come into focus as well as a more nuanced understanding of NATO conditioning and/or negating your sentence
“Without Russia NATO has no reason to exist beyond being a mercenary for prosecution of US hegemony.”
including by virtue of its conflation of some opponents with an entity – the remarkably misnamed United States of America – and failure to acknowledge possibilities of mutual interest amongst opponents not restricted to populations within a specific nation state.
Commentary could have been written by the Zionist American Democratic (party) political gang.
1. Poland is not an independent nation.
2. The Polish elite serve Sauron (the Zionist Rothschilds, et. al), and Saruman’s (the less powerful wizard), Zionist owned and controlled American Oligarchs.
3. For Russia to protect itself from a Poland with Zionist American nuclear bombs based on its territory, – Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania must be liberated. Twenty (20,000) thousand Marines each should accomplish the task within 24 hours.
It is not out of the question for the Russian leaders to make this clear to the Zionist Americans in advance. They might also make clear that no NATO troops, of any kind are to be based in these Baltic Principalities, and that those already there are to be withdrawn within a week.
4. These minimal demands must be made Publicly, for all to see. No nukes in Cuba, and no nukes in Poland. *It should be Obvious to all that it is infinitely preferable for the Russians to liberate the Baltic principalities – regardless.
5. The war is on. It is advisable for the Russians to attempt to win it, or at least, secure a Fair (did I say “Fair”), compromise with the imperialists. That is to say, not a Minsk style deal that leaves 30 million Russians enslaved by the Zio-Nazi-American regime in Kiev.
For the Democratic Republics!
The concern about Rothschilds, Zionists, and attendant Western Debt Spreading finance, assumes …incorrectly, that this sort of debt money model will continue to direct humanity into the future.
The next related assumption then, is that resources needed to attach to double entry ledger, to then start a new debt cycle, must be captured via expansionary war.
Russia and China, the further they are provoked, then the further they move away from the Western finance model:
“A significant debate is underway in Russia since imposition of western financial sanctions on Russian banks and corporations in 2014. It’s about a proposal presented by the Moscow Patriarchate of the Orthodox Church. The proposal, which resembles Islamic interest-free banking models in many respects, was first unveiled in December 2014 at the depth of the Ruble crisis and oil price free-fall. This August the idea received a huge boost from the endorsement of the Russian Chamber of Commerce and Industry. It could change history for the better depending on what is done and where it further leads.”
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34056-reinventing-banking-from-russia-to-iceland-to-ecuador
Poland should be terminally partitioned between Russia and Germany, period. It doesn’t even qualify as a third-rate entity. Proudly hosts CIA torture dungeons on its own soil and stirs up all kinds of troubles out of sheer delusions of grandeur. The Psheks historically owe what little civilization they have to Russia/USSR and Germany. Ironically, the German Nazis had a fairly accurate idea of the Psheks’ moral stature as a people; hence the construction of concentration camps in Poland. Evidently, this hasn’t been lost on today’s Zionazis.
Nussiminen, I’ve always respected your comments on this blog and agree with most of you said in this particular one. Except, your solution of terminally partitioning Poland between Germany and Russia is plain ridiculous. Russia should have nothing of this – ruling over a psychotically Russophobic population is suicidal. Russia should ignore these backward border regions of Baltic + Poland and instead strengthen good relations with Germany and France. Eventually B+P sick block will be left no other choice but to fall into line behind the mutual agenda or face another humiliating defeat.
Hello Marina,
Haha, yes, it’s a little ridiculous but that’s precisely the infallible charm of poetic justice :-) To wit: Whenever somebody is trying to look noble by resorting to obnoxious, arrogant victimology, then it’s high past time to make at least some of it come true. Doing so instantly saps the will of the fraudsters to continue in most cases
Views of this sort don’t belong on this site – you’re not only being spiteful and repulsive in your language, you’re also very much mistaken. Educate yourself on Polish history and culture, should help you avoid mishaps like this on the future. All the best to you and your family this Christmas.
Poland is a Slavic country!
Germany should not ever touch Poland again.
“Poland is a Slavic country!”
You try tell the Psheks that, honey. In their own vivid imagination, they are the world’s most oppressed, underrated Latin Christians. No “Slavic pride” there.
“Germany should not ever touch Poland again.”
I think Germany could kindly remind her Polish neighbours that today’s Western Poland was taken away from Germany because of Stalin. Are the Psheks unaware of this, perchance? Don’t get me wrong here; I’m pro-Stalin overall, but the Psheks seem to be somewhat inconsistent on the subject matter.
@The Wend:
Since the recreation of the Polish state after WWI it used to be a proxy for the Anglo-Zionist Empire, this was even the very reason of its foundation.
As George Friedman – the founder of STRATFOR – stated in February 2015 the main goal of US foreign policy has always been to avoid a cooperation between Germany and Russia:
“The primordial interest of the United States, over which for centuries we have fought wars – the First, the Second and Cold Wars – has been the relationship between Germany and Russia, because united they’re the only force that could threaten us.”
The Anglo-Zionists wanted to smash Russia and(!) Germany. With the later one they succeeded but it is crucial important to understand that already Germany was destroyed according to a long-time planning and Poland (and others) was already used and abused(!) as a tool back then.
He is right. Time to fave the truth.
Thanks and the same to you, Hochberg’s vassal!
I have something to tell you about Polish history. As I pointed out earlier, the German Nazis had a fairly good idea of the Poles’ moral stature. The latters’ very classy act of land-grabbing in neighbouring Czechoslovakia right in the wake of the infamous Munich agreement in 1938 must have felt like watching a hideous, scavenging rat take advantage of your own rotten designs. As that really beautiful little German proverb puts it:
Heute gestohlen, morgen in Polen
Pshek victimology — total garbage.
Nussiminen, how can you explain SS Guard of Honour in Cracow for Marshal Jozef Pilsudski ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeO9QbR2cSA )
Why would SS having higher moral stature bother to guard the garbage ?
You are spreading enmities and facts like a low grade “Macher” ( trickster ).
As regards moral rot, my point here is that Nazi Germany recognized it from its own fabric of society first and foremost. Flattery and contempt of weaker trashbags should be nothing strange at all.
The SS were a strange bunch. Himmler at least,most of the SS rank and file probably didn’t even know who Pilsudski was. But Himmler thought of himself as a “knight” and a reincarnation of “Heinrich the Fowler” from German history. And he would have respected Pilsudski as an anti-Communist fighter.Communism being one of Himmler’s major phobia’s. I suspect that action was just one of Himmler’s weird moments.
In Berlin there was a service for Piłsudski ordered by Adolf Hitler,so it wasn’t just about Himmler.
There was something else to that story, and too many put their own interpretations.
http://www.ww2incolor.com/german_leadership/1.html
“Views of this sort don’t belong on this site ”
That would depend on an evaluation of the purposes of a blog.
Some use the datastream – known to some as a site and/or a blog- as markers of ideological immersion of limited utility given that at 08-30 UTC 21st December 2015 the views on this thread were 4934 views and 64 comments, the comments to views being 1.30 %.
An analysis of all threads on this blog over a period of circa 2 years shows that the comment to view ratio has consistently been under 2%.
Some use this blog including comments as a datastream on the opponents’ perceptions including framing.
“you’re not only being spiteful and repulsive in your language, you’re also very much mistaken”
As you have noted in your own comment, the comment to which you refer is a concentrated illustration of the opponents’ ideological practices including but not being restricted to extrapolations on competition is a zero sum game, that the world and phenomena within it are binary – the good guys in white hats, bad guys in black hats – that challenge is always a form of aggression requiring response in kind, the assertion of certainty, and the displacement of analysis by belief.
The blindness of the opponents has always proved useful and likely will continue to prove useful with some encouragement.
“”Views of this sort don’t belong on this site ”
I would suggest that views of this sort not only belong on this site, but such illustrations of ideological immersion form a significant part of the content of this site.
That is one of this site’s utility for some.
Nussiminen, perhaps you are terminally ill.
First, Poland is a Slavic civilization with a very rich traditions enriched with a folk music etc.
Second, majority of Poles call current Government – “Macherzy”
Russophobic character of Poland should not be blamed solely on Poles.
Russia’s guilt is equal to cause it. It hasn’t happen overnight.
If Russia would manage to keep CIA out of Poland in 1980s, we would be friends today.
My father was an officer in the PRL, He wasn’t a communist however he was proud of Warsaw Pact.
Russian blow it out miserably, not Poles !
Personally I am not Russophobic, because I tend to move forward.
You are right. I would say “Macherzy” (tricksters) is a good name for them (and many other regimes).
I and my Polish Canadian friends are not Russophobic and are very fond of the Russian people.
Some of us who cracked a history book or two, know about the three (3) partitions of Poland by Russia, Prussia and Austria and have concluded to our satisfaction who was behind the Soviet murders of Polish military brass in Katyn.
Last I heard the black boxes from the 2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash near the city of Smolensk have not been returned to Poland where the President of Poland, the former President of Poland in exile, the chief of the Polish General Staff, other senior Polish military officers, the president of the National Bank of Poland, Polish Government officials and 18 members of the Polish Parliament …….. have been extinguished.
Within this historical context I would not be too hard on the Poles for being somewhat paranoid. The recent history, current anti-Russian propaganda, ruling governments described as that of the US 52nd state with foreign policies that may have been conceived of by US neocons.
At least the Poles know who is ruling over them and that is a good start which I hope our American friends will find out sooner rather than later.
As one of the posters here was insinuating, it would be helpful to liberate Poland not to demonize it for its ruling elites.
It’s not neocons but an old enemy of Poland – Puławian Faction.
There was once a chance for a true Polish State during Natolin faction ( mainly peasants, workers and military), but Moscow Liberals killed it, they destroyed USSR and Poland at the same time.
True,I think you are right. You know of course that Gomulka spent a great deal of time in prison before being made Poland’s leader. There is an old joke you may have heard about him. He has a list of two government projects to approve or disapprove. And money is very tight so only one can be approved. One is for a new playground at a kindergarten. The other is for a TV room for prisoners at the state prison. He approves the prison TV room. His Secretary asks him “Comrade Gomulka,why did you approve the TV room for the prison.Instead of the playground at the kindergarten”. Gomulka looks at him and answers, ” It’s not likely I might spend my declining years in a kindergarten,now is it”.
However the Polish state is hostile and that’s what counts.Most of the dead in east ukraine happen to be polish and lituanian nazis
A partition of Poland between Germany and Russia…
That is what imperial Russia and imperial Germany did in the late nineteenth century; an idea concocted by Bismark after the Franco-Prussian war. The power vacuum in Paris, created by the German invasion, sparked a quagmire both for the German invaders and the French (fugitive) authorities. Bismark was not fool enough to massacre the “Paris Commune”; he left France and its Paris insurgency, to be dealt with by the defeated French army. Alas, France was left in a terrible situation, in the years following 1870. Actually, Bismark did not save the German elites from the wrath of the heirs of the Paris Commune; nevertheless, the German enmity towards Russia — a prominent catalyst of the October Revolution — was never his fault. The German deep state dumped him — and his caution — and devolved into an empire-building spree.
But before all that… Right after 1870, and in order to fully isolate France and put a stop to British expansion in Europe, Bismark made an alliance with Russia. Both empires agreed on a partition of Poland among themselves. For some time, at least, it denied the French (and the British) a staunch ally in Eastern Europe. However, one must ask how Bismark, who earlier showed considerable restraint towards the rebellious Parisians, allowed himself to deeply humiliate the Poles in such a way. The same thing can be said about the Tzar. They were never afraid of (future) Polish resistance, that’s for sure.
Nevertheless, the partition of Poland turned out to have grave consequences in the twentieth century, for both countries. Germany was forced to fight WWII right in 1939 — three years before it would have been fully ready, due to Polish deep fear of a renewed partition of their country. In 1939, the Poles adamantly refused to cave in to Hitler’s ultimatum. Fast forward and, only a few decades later, we see the Poles becoming tired of the Soviet model and — unlike their Czech neighbours — defy the heirs of the Paris Commune with both perseverance and intent to destroy its allure. I must say that the root cause of the deep suspicion the Poles nurture towards Germany and Russia was the 19th and 20th century partitions of its territory.
As we see, imperial policies never seem as good an idea in the future as they were in their present. That is why enlightened leaders really make an effort to avoid them.
Actually,that was first done in the 18th Century. And was the cause of a lot of turmoil in Eastern Europe for 2 centuries. If Poland had remained a state,only reduced to its ethnic borders,the World might have avoided a lot of warfare over those years.
The Kulak has spoken with Poles in America. They’re fine with ordinary Russian and Ukrainian people but they don’t like the Kiev government or Banderites very much, having not forgotten Volyn. Beyond that the concerns in Poland are primarily economic, the current right wing government was elected because the utility and gas bills are very high, one woman told me higher for her house in Poland than a home in the States, but Polish incomes are less than half of U.S. median incomes, and Ukraine including proud Galicia is far poorer than Poland. So please friends none of this stupidity about partitioning Poland, neither any sane person in Germany or Russia wants such a thing. The Empire is losing the trust of many Poles already with its insane open borders policy with their old adversary Germany led by U.S. stooge Merkel in the lead and eventually support of the Banderites will trump traditional Polish Russophobia. The Poles know very well who gives Merkel her orders.
@The Kulak:
“The Poles know very well who gives Merkel her orders.”
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I hope you’re right on this. The German political class and the mass media from so called left to liberal and conservative are completely conrolled by the US (via think tanks, secret services)
Germany and Poland would be the first victims, i.e. military targets in a massive confrontation between US-NATO and Russia.
Germans and Poles will have to clean up their houses and to get rid of their US-controlled “elites”,at least für Germany this would be crucial necessary and Poles should overcome their pathological russophobia. It’s for the sake of Europe’s future.
@Uncle Bob:
“If Poland had remained a state, only reduced to its ethnic borders …”
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But it was done on purpose to integrate different ethnos (people) in the new created national states in Central Europe after WWI.
They wanted conflicts and a confrontative instead of a cooperative atmosphere to happen.
It was the same when the Brits (and the French) left their colonies in Africa and Asia (Middle East, India) and they drew artificial borders in order to create tensions over decades until today:
“divide et impera”
Yes,but I was actually thinking of before during the Congress of Vienna. When there was some talk of restoring an ethnic Poland.Mainly from the Duchy of Warsaw.And Poznan and the Polish areas of Galicia. Giving the throne to the Wettin’s of Saxony.And Prussia taking Saxony to pay for Poznan.Had that happened,Central and Eastern Europe might have been entirely different over the years.There would have been an ethnic Polish State already accepted. And no question of a “Polish question” to disturb the peace.
The partition of Poland was not Bismarck’s idea (though he was of course a relentless foe of Polish striving for independence). Poland was partitioned already in the end of 18th cent. between Prussia, Russia and Austria. It regained independence only 120 years later, after WW I.
» Poland should be terminally partitioned between Russia and Germany … The Psheks historically owe what little civilization they have to Russia/USSR and Germany. «
So what’s the point of such remarks? The Poles are our neighbours, and Russia’s neighbours. They’ve been used as a tool by the Anglo Empire during most of the 20th century. And still are.
Common people have no clue how they’re being used and abused. But they do have roots in their country and their culture. Which should be respected.
Eternal enmity between the peoples of Europe is the Anglo game.
Also, Nussiminen, as you’ve said that you’re a Stalinist (whatever that is), what was so good about Stalin’s grand design to extend Russia’s rule over Central Europe and the Baltic countries? Has it been beneficial to Russia? Would there have been any Great Patriotic War 41-45? Would Anglozionism have been able to gain such a strong foothold on the European continent?
I can see how one could say, Stalin, the great modernizer, industrializer, made Russia into a power house, etc … and this is true … but his great design of domination (Victor Suvorov, The Icebreaker) was arrogant, and it backfired badly because Germany, including Hitler, of course, didn’t want to be subdued.
Stalin miscalculated badly. His great design ended with a fantastic Anglo victory, at lots of German and Russian bloodshed.
“Also, Nussiminen, as you’ve said that you’re a Stalinist (whatever that is), what was so good about Stalin’s grand design to extend Russia’s rule over Central Europe and the Baltic countries? Has it been beneficial to Russia?”
I think it was Uncle Bob 1 who explained it very succinctly: Nearly all of Central and Eastern Europe took part in the Fascist genocidal onslaught against Russia. It was a concerted effort — under Nazi Germany’s undisputed leadership — to exterminate her people and grab her resources; basically the very same objectives which NATO has had right from the start. With the Soviet Red Army routing the rabid animals of “Western civilization”, the latter got their due reward: Soviet military occupation. It brought peace, progress, and prosperity to the USSR and the occupied countries alike. The NATO scum will have to be dealt with similarly, because they are the very same rabid animals of “Western civilization” as the German Nazis of yesteryear.
You have my vote.I think the same way as yourslef
Maybe I’m naive. But wouldn’t all this qualify as a serious breech of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty? But did treaties and agreements ever count for anything with the NATO, AZ types? To paraphrase a popular saying from the old westerns: “Western politician speak with forked tongue.”
A bit off-topic, but nevertheless, worth watching, only 2 mins long (caution, some profanity) – Bill Hicks on America arming the world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IZfpGG2cBE
Maybe OT but connected.The disaster of Ukraine and Eastern Europe under the EU:
EU Association = The Death of Ukrainian Cognac
One of the mandatory conditions of the EU Association agreement is substitution of patented terms “cognac” and “champagne” in the names of products, produced in Ukraine.
To be eligible to be called “cognac”, the beverage must meet the following basic requirements:
1. The grapes for this beverage must be grown and the beverage itself must be produced in a certain region around the town of Cognac, divided into six sections.
2. Only certain varieties of white grapes can be used – Ugni Blanc, Folle Blanche, Colombard, Semillion, Blanc Rame.
3. A regulated process of wine making must be followed in cognac production.
4. The production process must include certain operations, including double distillation inside “alambic charentais”, which must begin before November 15 and end no later than March 31 of the following year, and aged in oak barrels for at least 30 months.
5. To improve the color of the beverage caramel or tincture of hydroalcoholic solution on oak chips must be used constituting less than 2% of the total volume of the beverage.
6. The beverage must be least 40% proof.
7. The beverage must be classified by certain categories depending on aging.
Taking into account the first item you can be sure that Ukrainian cognac is doomed. What was produced in Ukraine, was intended exclusively for the domestic market. Over the next few years, these labels must be replaced even for the use on the territory of Ukraine. Rebranding will affect almost all Ukrainian producers. The word “cognac” will have to be removed not only from the label, but also from the name of the enterprise, which leads to enormous costs for re-registration of statutory documents and permits, renegotiation of thousands of agreements, changing signs, and more.
Given the fact that Ukraine will enter the legal field of the European Union due to signing the association agreement, – any mistake of Ukrainian producers will result in instant penalties. The question of who in Europe will need the “alcoholic drink based on brandy alcohol” or “sparkling wine product” is not even worth asking. No one will want it there.
Problems of distillery businesses, which arose from the signing of the Association agreement – it’s not even a top, but a small snowflake on the tip of the iceberg. Recently, the Cabinet of ministers has cancelled the state standards, but … instead of cancelled standards, Ukrainian producers primarily of food products now have to be certified according to European standards. This means that if the EU doesn’t have standards for “Doctor” kielbasa, for example, then Ukraine will cease to produce it. And this applies to the entire spectrum of food products. Passing Euro certification for Ukrainian producers will inevitably entail the death of the domestic market – because the costs of certification will be incorporated in the price of the product and it will not be able to compete in price with cheaper European products. For the same reason Ukrainian products will not be wanted in the EU.
In the end, Ukraine will occupy a niche that was prepared for it by her European ‘partners’ – a raw material accessory, which, moreover, will be as deserted, as the Baltic States.
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/12/eu-association-death-of-ukrainian-cognac.html
Uncle Bob, I saw this earlier and wondered if the junta had thought this and other trade ‘difficulties’ through? A large part of their trade was with Russia and they have hot themselves in the foot with that one. For example, armaments which wouldn’t be of use to NATO countries and re-tooling, if even possible, prohibitively expensive and economically non-viable. Exports of conventional arms to Asia and Africa would continue of course, particularly the black market variety.
I am assuming that other than those arms, farming is the major export along with minerals and some industry and that any EU trade barriers, red tape can be overcome by Hegemon muscle.
Freedom Cognac or Victory Cognac along with Bandera Beer perhaps? Kiev claret?
On that note, do you know where you can get any Victory gin?
While I understand Russia’s reluctance to become Hezbollah’s protector – In light of the fact that they are fighting on the same side in Syria – it ought to count for something. Why then is Israel given a free pass to strike at Hezbollah and the SAA as it sees fit? This is just the latest in a long list of such strikes while Russia looks the other way:
https://www.rt.com/news/326564-damascus-explosion-jaramana-reports/
”….reports have alleged that Israeli rocket fire has destroyed a building in the Syrian capital’s eastern Jaramana district. Hezbollah-linked militant leader Samir Kuntar of the Palestine Liberation ….”
Israel’s continued impunity is an impediment to the fight against terror in Syria, and sooner or later it will work to the decisive detriment of Russia’s objectives in Syria.
What if Israel decides to assassinate Assad in one of these strikes? Will Russia turn a blind eye then?
No wonder the Iranians show such wariness in having boots on the ground in Syria. Having been ”stabbed in the back by Russia” with its failure to deliver the S-300S in 2010, Tehran is decidedly cool to the idea of exposing its troops in Syria in large numbers because they fear – and rightfully so – they might be targeted by Israel and others and Russia not offer support to Iran.
I share your sentiments!
It seems to be the official deal between Russia and Israel. Russia isn’t supporting the SAA and HZB defending against the illegal air strikes by Israel.
In other words, the Zionists are not only dominating the US, NATO and the EU, they have a substantial power base in Russia too.
Scandal! Right sector recruits in Poland. It offers 1000 dollars a month ( http://dziennik-polityczny.com/index.php/spoleczenstwo/3590-skandal-prawy-sektor-rekrutuje-w-polsce-oferuje-1000-dolarow-miesiecznie )
I don’t think the Right sector is behind it, Puławian ( Polish Jewish intelligentsia ) represented today as a multi-headed dragon, also known as “Macherzy” (tricksters) .
In respect to article’ some posted comments, I just want to translate a few:
Ani jeden Polak nie powinien ginąć za Ukraińca. Mimo krzywd, doznanych w przeszłości ze strony Rosji, powinniśmy teraz zjednać się z nią, zamiast z nią walczyć
Neither one Pole should die for ukrainian. In spite of harms done by Russia in the past, instead fight against Russia, we should unite with her now
My z Rosja musimy sie zjednac a nie walczyc z nia. Tylko ona nam zostala a nie usa czy unia.
We must not fight Russia but to unite with her. She’s the only our hope, not USA or EU.
It does NOT sound very Russophobic, just opposite.
Polak, thank you for sharing this. I observed the recent Defense Ministry Slovak ‘not NATO office’ night raid scandal with great interest. Is there any chance we will find out about Polish ‘vacationers’ or at least recently discharged soldiers fighting for Kiev in Donbass too? Seems like if Right Sector is throwing around that kind of money for militarily competent people and Afghanistan/Iraq vets then they’ve been offering that type of pay back when Kiev basically had 6,000 actual soldiers ready to deploy to Donbass and the ‘volunteer battalions’ in April 2014.
IRGC recently named Brig. Gen. Gholamhossein Gheibparvar as the new commander of their forces in #Syria.
https://twitter.com/IraqiSecurity/status/678504071691689985
Breaking: Syrian Army and Hezbollah are in full control of the strategic village of Al-Qarassi in southern Aleppo:
http://mapcarta.com/12682324
These guys dress up as civilians, take pot shots at soldiers and civilians and then run off and when they get bombed, you have western press yelling civilians civilians..
FSA Sultan Murad Brigade shell pro government positions in southern Aleppo
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/678198759457759233
Another 12 year old terrorist whooped.. But its killing children.. How innocent he looks. But not when he carry’s around machine guns.
https://twitter.com/Ibra_Joudeh/status/678339423143071745
MAP Next Steps in Latakia….Syria
https://twitter.com/scenarieconomic/status/678168958432911360
Syria army+allied militias+ Russian air support take town of Khan Touman one of the biggest Al Qaeda strongholds in Aleppo, Al Zirbeh next
#SAA recovered 44 armored vehicles (tanks &IFVs) from recently captured Jabal Sayid, North #Latakia
60% of #Syria’s major rebel groups are Islamist extremists,1/3 of rebels share IS aims says @RG_Centre’s study BBC https://t.co/Qdms8ZQpsr
I am unable to bring up the Polish set up Nato confrontation with Russia. As a US NATO slave, Poland may be doing this to goose Russia into responding to now two NATO attempts at WW111 (the Turkish
shooting down of the Russian jet) or something very different.
How does on get access please?
The current/new PiS government is certainly more anti-EU and anti-Merkel than the outgoing PO who provided the current EU head, Donald Tusk.
But then it is generally anti-everyone.
It is strongly Russophobic, for example. It still blames russia for the plane accident that killed the then President and twin of the party leader, Kazynski.
And while one can see why the PiS would be easily US influcenced given the common enemies, it can hardly be a bigger bootlicker than the PO. The PO which included Sikorski, who has clearly been in the pay of the US since his days as a journalist close to the Mujahadin in Afghanistan.
Indeed only last week it raided the local NATO office in order to replace the local head with its own man.
PiS or whatever you call it, they all the same nowadays.
They are the product of the split which occurred in the leadership of PZPR ( Polish United Workers’ Party). They were Puławians faction ( Polish Jewish intelligentsia )
On 18-28 June 1956, when VII congress of PZPR ( Polish United Workers’ Party) took place, a well known Marshal Konstanty Rokossowski said about baseless privileges of jewish fellow in state and in party, and that Polish National dignity should be respected.
Puławians gone MAD, the first secretary of PZPR of city Łodzi – Michalina Tatarkówna Majkowska, who represented Puławian faction said openly and loud on this day :
“You want to have a war, so you will have it”
All opposing factions has been destroyed, Rokossowski’s life twisted and turned onto Russophobia.
They have WON, patiently with a help of Russian liberals, CIA etc.
Today there is no Polish Government that truly serves Poles.
Sadly.. “Pollacks” (sorry for small minority)- never been pragmatic toward Germany/Russia. Never considered German peace offers before WW2 and always hated Russian Slavs nation…Shame on them – again sorry for very small rationnally thinking polish ppl. Because 15+ mill. polish ancestry leave on West and support ” homeland they are better than Ukie….
I do not believe that the Polish elite can really believe that they can somehow “diminish” the German power over most of Europe.
Even globally there are probably less than 4-5 countries that can hope to outcompete Germany.
Yes, the German army is currently not that well financed and equipped, but they also did not need it in the last decades. Once the German elite decides that war is inevitable, they will switch their truly massive industry into war mode and produce state of the art military equipment in massive amounts.
That’s what they did before WWII. Stalin and the whole world with him viewed Germany as weak in 1933, even the Poles thought they could play tough with the Germans.
6 Years later they needed a little more than a month to completely crush the Poles. And they could do it again if they needed to.
I understand the Polish position though, it’s tough to be sandwiched between powers such as Germany or Russia. It would make me paranoid too.
That has really always been the Polish reality. The problem is they refuse to accept that reality. Instead of being pragmatic. And either picking one and being loyal to them. Or even playing them both against either other to benefit from them both. Poland has always picked the wrong way. She has searched for allies outside her region. First it was France. Then Britain,and now the US. Not realizing that they didn’t care a bit for Poland’s future. But only would use her for their own benefit. And when need be betray her. Napoleon used Poland for cannon fodder. And as a base to attack Russia from. Britain used her to sacrifice to Hitler. And the US wants her for bases against Russia. Poland’s natural pardners are Russia and Germany. She could have a huge economic trade with Russia if she wanted it. But her elites hatred of Russia blind them to the benefits they could have as Russia’s friend. Their elites have always been Poland’s “cross”. And are yet once again.
Poland’s natural pardners are Russia and Germany
I agree with you.
I add that
Poland through out history had many foreigners even as Kings, so it wasn’t just pragmatism.
Most of times we have stupid foreign policies, even to this day.
Sometimes they serve only to foreigners.
Russian T-90A made its combat debut in Khan Touman, Southern #Aleppo! #Syria
https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/678570756939337728
#Hezbollah, #Syrian Army cutoff the #Aleppo-#Damascus Highway after seizing Khan Touman!
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/hezbollah-syrian-army-cutoff-the-aleppo-damascus-highway-after-seizing-khan-touman-in-southern-aleppo/ …
Liberation of Khan Touman by IRGC, #Hezbollah and #SAA.
10s of Nusra/Arar Al-Sham terrorists killed!
https://t.co/GDiigvtEsZ
Four Russian Fighter Jets to Escort President Assad’s Plane in Visit to Tehran
TEHRAN (FNA)- Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s plane will be escorted by four Russian fighter jets during his upcoming visit to Iran, reports said, adding that the US coalition has been alerted to stand down as the Russian jets will have the permission to fire at will at any incoming aircraft.
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940929000973
How the US ended up being IS’s air force…
Military to Military Seymour M. Hersh on US intelligence sharing in the Syrian war
Germany, Israel and Russia were in contact with the Syrian army, and able to exercise some influence over Assad’s decisions – it was through them that US intelligence would be shared. Each had its reasons for co-operating with Assad: Germany feared what might happen among its own population of six million Muslims if Islamic State expanded; Israel was concerned with border security; Russia had an alliance of very long standing with Syria, and was worried by the threat to its only naval base on the Mediterranean, at Tartus. ‘We weren’t intent on deviating from Obama’s stated policies,’ the adviser said. ‘But sharing our assessments via the military-to-military relationships with other countries could prove productive. It was clear that Assad needed better tactical intelligence and operational advice. The JCS concluded that if those needs were met, the overall fight against Islamist terrorism would be enhanced. Obama didn’t know, but Obama doesn’t know what the JCS does in every circumstance and that’s true of all presidents.’
Once the flow of US intelligence began, Germany, Israel and Russia started passing on information about the whereabouts and intent of radical jihadist groups to the Syrian army; in return, Syria provided information about its own capabilities and intentions. There was no direct contact between the US and the Syrian military; instead, the adviser said, ‘we provided the information – including long-range analyses on Syria’s future put together by contractors or one of our war colleges – and these countries could do with it what they chose, including sharing it with Assad. We were saying to the Germans and the others: “Here’s some information that’s pretty interesting and our interest is mutual.” End of conversation. The JCS could conclude that something beneficial would arise from it – but it was a military to military thing, and not some sort of a sinister Joint Chiefs’ plot to go around Obama and support Assad. It was a lot cleverer than that. If Assad remains in power, it will not be because we did it. It’s because he was smart enough to use the intelligence and sound tactical advice we provided to others.’
But there is also a parallel history of shadowy co-operation between Syria and the US during the same period. The two countries collaborated against al-Qaida, their common enemy. A longtime consultant to America’s intelligence community said that, after 9/11, ‘Bashar was, for years, extremely helpful to us while, in my view, we were churlish in return, and clumsy in our use of the gold he gave us. That quiet co-operation continued among some elements, even after the [Bush administration’s] decision to vilify him.’ In 2002 Assad authorised Syrian intelligence to turn over hundreds of internal files on the activities of the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria and Germany. Later that year, Syrian intelligence foiled an attack by al-Qaida on the headquarters of the US Navy’s Fifth Fleet in Bahrain, and Assad agreed to provide the CIA with the name of a vital al-Qaida informant. In violation of this agreement, the CIA contacted the informant directly; he rejected the approach, and broke off relations with his Syrian handlers. Assad also secretly turned over to the US relatives of Saddam Hussein who had sought refuge in Syria, and – like America’s allies in Jordan, Egypt, Thailand and elsewhere – tortured suspected terrorists for the CIA in a Damascus prison.
It was this history of co-operation that made it seem possible in 2013 that Damascus would agree to the new indirect intelligence-sharing arrangement with the US. The Joint Chiefs let it be known that in return the US would require four things: Assad must restrain Hizbullah from attacking Israel; he must renew the stalled negotiations with Israel to reach a settlement on the Golan Heights; he must agree to accept Russian and other outside military advisers; and he must commit to holding open elections after the war with a wide range of factions included. ‘We had positive feedback from the Israelis, who were willing to entertain the idea, but they needed to know what the reaction would be from Iran and Syria,’ the JCS adviser told me. ‘The Syrians told us that Assad would not make a decision unilaterally – he needed to have support from his military and Alawite allies. Assad’s worry was that Israel would say yes and then not uphold its end of the bargain.’ A senior adviser to the Kremlin on Middle East affairs told me that in late 2012, after suffering a series of battlefield setbacks and military defections, Assad had approached Israel via a contact in Moscow and offered to reopen the talks on the Golan Heights. The Israelis had rejected the offer. ‘They said, “Assad is finished,”’ the Russian official told me. ‘“He’s close to the end.”’ He said the Turks had told Moscow the same thing. By mid-2013, however, the Syrians believed the worst was behind them, and wanted assurances that the Americans and others were serious about their offers of help.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military
Wholly Krap!!! Everyone needs to read this piece by Hersh.. According to him, Osama aka Obhama the potus a goud fiend of erogan the backstabbing pasha gangster are the worlds most notorious terrorists supporters.. With erdo actually being the commander in chief of a world wide terrorist network.
Its a looooooonnng article but very informative..
I have no idea what osama’s problem is other than the ulcer he scratches all the time when no ones looking.. The guys directly responsible for most of the worlds problems and he created it on top of the destabilization by the nookoolar idiot before him by breaking every international norm and law. But lets not forget the I did not have sex with that woman and the semen on her dress was only because he was so excited about being able to kill people on a massive scale who started breaking the laws to start with.. Psychopaths with the fate of the entire human race at their finger tips..
The Obama IS link…
https://twitter.com/AWAKEALERT/status/678421542150082560
Gee I wonder why SAA has such trouble fighting terrorists with flint guns.. oh wait..
120 SAS special forces dress and act like IS are under US command driving around Toyota trucks and flying IS flags…..
https://twitter.com/AWAKEALERT/status/678579700755640320
Let us not forget, MOST IS leaders were released from US run holding areas.. for good behavior… And that is not just their top level operatives but also like these 5…
https://twitter.com/AWAKEALERT/status/678522457326616576
I usually like Hersh’s articles, but as I was reading it my subconscious (I wasn’t paying 100% attention to it consciously) was giving me warning signals, and in this case there is clear BS/disinfo:
‘A retired senior diplomat who served at the US embassy in Moscow expressed sympathy for Obama’s dilemma as the leader of the Western coalition opposed to Russia’s aggression against Ukraine’ – PROVOKED by the USG, but it’s RUSSIA’s aggression! Say what??? Who had spent $5 billion on Ukraine, with the admitted coup by obummer, and the 25 YEAR AMERICAN plan for Eastern Europe, and it is RUSSIA [sic!]!!! which is the ‘aggressor’, not the USG on a different continent to its own, in Russia’s backyard! Which means also that either Hersh doesn’t really know what’s going on, or he overlooked this (how could he?) or he’s part of the disinfo (this time).
More BS: the USG spoke to S Arabia to get them to back off, but SA didn’t play ball…so explain to me how SA PREVENTED US warplanes from bombing ISIS???
I dont see a conflict there.. He is reporting not offering his analysis..
But clearly Obama is not in cahoots with Putin. If anything even though many in the military are sort of friendly to keep the peace, the rest of the administration are on a power trip. In fact from what I knew before this only confirms that they are living in a fantasy world drunk on power and arrogance.. Hersch some times offer analysis but not his own.. Only what others tell him.. Like the gas attack his analysis was that US intelligence concurred that because the turks were so happy when i happened and high fiveing each other, they were the ones who set it in motion. He never offered his own analysis on it…
Actually he is great.. he does not add his own opinions and that is as it should be.. He only reports.. He does not wipe the events off the map.. And you need to pay more attention and make up a picture of things.. a few mins is not enough to understand it. And everyone is part of the disinfo project.. I dont think hersch is a paid part of it.
The bottom-line to that article,is a mantra of mine,”never trust the West” and “never ever,trust the West”. They will betray you in a heartbeat,and think nothing of it.
Looks like the T90 is a great success, they only have like 6 of them.. against the 100’s of TOW missiles armed by Obama’s terrorists..
It took almost 3 weeks to gain control of Khan_Tuman a small town and its defenses..
http://postimg.org/image/bglp67bft/full/
They really need to close the border.. But it is a presidential order to keep supplying terrorists advanced weapons. And as long as they keep supplying weapons where a couple of people can hold up entire units of tanks. The going will be slow. So it is not just Turkey, the US is directly supporting terrorists..
At least 4 women from the female regiment of the Syrian Republican Guards brigade were killed in an explosion in Mezze #Damascus
An IED planted on a car explodes on Mezzeh highway in #Damascus #Syria
Nasrallah: Any cadre of #Hezbollah gets assassinated, we will hold #Israel responsible & we will reply as necessary
Nasrallah speech on Monday 8:30pm #Beirut #Lebanon
Several #Hezbollah militants killed,injured after Israeli airstrikes in southern #Lebanon,Hezb fighters also reported evacuating locations
Sonic booms by Israeli war planes over Al-Nabatiyeh, and Al-Tuffah reported now. #Lebanon #Israel”
Israeli Air Force received orders to retaliate firing Katyusha rockets from #Lebanon a short while ago. #Lebanon”
Looks like the ukies are going ape again, saw a few pics of them torturing some people supposedly pro russian rebels in lugansk..
Better view of T90.. with all the bells and whistles..
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/678282329157144576
Hezbullah commander Samir Al Quntar a Lebanese Druze in Hezbollah who was in prison for over 40 years since he was 17 was betrayed by Palestinians who joined up with the terrorists..
At least 5 air raids by RuAF on #Idlib city since this morning. 40+ terrorists including many leaders killed in their safe house.. Surprise Surprise.. How did the Russians know?
Jaish al Fat’h claimed to have sent 10,000 mercenaries to south Aleppo last month
At least 81 #Jaish_Fateh militants killed at Khan Touman this morning by #SAA & allies.. Their Toyota pickups come in handy loading the carcass to be incinerated..
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/678537806344425472
30% of #Republicans think the #US should bomb #Agrabah. One problem: that’s the country from #Aladdin.
Residents of Gaza report loud explosions were result of Israeli air force carrying out ‘mock bombings’
Hama, Latakia and Aleppo at once. This was the goal and add to that Russian airstrikes which have helped massively. +3
Will put a lot of pressure on Idlib province as a result and that is exactly why #SAA and allies launched multiple offensives from . #Sy +2
SAA/#Hezbollah with advances in Latakia and taking hills as well as advances in South Aleppo and possible future advances in Sahl Al-Ghab
After the fall of Khan Touman it’s safe to say that South Aleppo has fallen completely and that they (#SAA/#Hezb) will enter Idlib. #Sy
So many accidents these days.. accidentally invading a country.. Accidentally slipping and penetrating a girl.. accidentally dropping a bomb on your friend.. accidentally crossing air spaces..
To prevent accidents….
Norway offers migrants a class in how to treat women: ‘To force someone into sex is not permitted in Norway’ http://nyti.ms/1TapHIh
Not taking Putin seriously is about the worst mistake that an idiot like this clown can make. One might wonder if these idiots believe, or come to believe, what they say,and maybe that helps to explain why Turkey has been so ridiculous and is in so much trouble. Maybe it is some sort of cerebral disease they caught from the clowns in the US or Israel — some variant of mad cow disease? (Name them Sponge Brain Square Pants?) Might also help explain why they say Turkey and Ukraine are going to put a naval blockade in Crimea.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/we-dont-take-putin-statements-seriously-turkish-pm.aspx?pageID=238&nID=92726&NewsCatID=352
We don’t take Putin statements seriously: Turkish PM
Serkan Demirtaş – BRUSSELS / ANKARA
Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu has said the Turkish government “does not take seriously” Vladimir Putin’s recent harsh statements, so he will not respond to the Russian president’s “undiplomatic and insulting” remarks in the same manner.
“Perhaps he’s reminiscing about his old KGB days. But the KGB is long gone. The era of Soviet-style propaganda is history. With every statement he makes, the world mocks it sarcastically. We cannot take it seriously,” Davutoğşu told reporters while returning from this week’s trip to Brussels to attend a summit with eight EU leaders.
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Wait until UN sanctions hit.. EU will be running, they know what is happening.. No one will touch the backstabbing pasha.. He is only there because of his support form Obama. Both regime change and civil war in turkey is a certainty now. Putin is tightening the screws.. After the last UN resolution no one should have any doubts, none of these countries are Iran.. They wont be able to handle even half the pain Iran went through.. But at least Iran had friends.. They did not back stab anyone.. Russia, China and India were still supporting Iran.. No one will support Turkey.. Not a single one if the next US president keeps his distance.. Israel is just asking for it, they will be very careful not to get under sanctions for buying sanctioned goods.. And the world is just waiting for a chance..
Several rockets fired at #Israel from an area between Mansouri and al-Rashediya
https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/678613944496451585
ROCKETS FIRED FROM #Lebanon INTO N. #Israel http://bit.ly/1IhTSwt
Israeli Army shelling south #Lebanon following rocket attacks! #Hezbollah
Hezbollah has launched Katyosha Rockets on North #Israel settlements, siren pealing….
RT has an important article out today. It seems there is now a “smoking gun” for Turkey’s involvement in the Daesh oil smuggling. I’m not sure how the West can cover that up. The Norwegian Foreign Ministry asked a Norwegian company Rystad Energy, an independent oil and gas consulting firm,to investigate the oil smuggling. And their leaked report names Turkey as the major destination for the smuggled oil. And says corrupt Turkish interests allow it. This isn’t coming from “Russia”. But fellow NATO member Norway. The noose tightens around Erdogan:
https://www.rt.com/news/326567-is-export-oil-turkey/
extensive article Poland consitutional crisis?
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/327882-poland-political-crisis-eu/