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South Front TMR—-Great visuals with the maps. Good Job all around. Thanks. The statements of solidarity from the LPR and DPR are praiseworthy but can they really open an effective ” 2nd front” if Transniestria is attacked? Wouldn’t that be against the current political line of “we take it in the chin for Minsk II?” Hmmm? As for street coups: Well the Maidan and the Odessa Trade Union Hall massacre was a one time deal, right? Because that was a color revolution with venom and spite. There are ways to cut the paid provocateurs and hired assassins off from feeding on any kind of popular street demonstrations and creating confusion and chaos.
“Who will stop the fire of war?”
Not the zionazis and nazis running the ZPC/NWO. Well done report, very informative.
I doubt that bendera russoziophobes will stop the flames of war either, all they do are adding oil to fire.
Somewhat OT. In my opinion, the current ZPC/NWO war against Russia is a resumption of the previous fascist oligarch war against the USSR. And that war itself was a post WW1 resumption of an earlier war against Russia, as delineated by MacKinder and his “great game” strategy. With this in mind, the following is a pretty good short analysis and one can clearly see a lot of the same strategy being reemployed by the ZPC/NWO today. The zionazis/nazis are reenacting much of what the fascist oligarchs of the 1930’s did against the USSR. For instance, Merkel and Hitler are playing essentially the same role. So is the Hollande quislingship in relation to the late 1930’s French regime.
Operation Barbarossa: What would Europe look like if the Soviets hadn’t defeated Hitler?
really good point BT…but I think even before WW1 there were problems in Russia to do with oligarchs….Nicholas was frightened by his own ministers I think…I read a super good book although its not your typical political book…Its called Light for the New Millennium” by Thomas Meyer and its the diary of one of the cousin of Nicholas high officials…the diary is written by Helmuth von Moltke and the cousin of Nicholas is Willhelm II…anyway, the book “Light for the New Millennium” is divided into two parts and the first part is the diary…in the diary the whole staff of Wilhelm at one point to on a ship to a remote bay in Scandinavia and they see another ship in the bay and its the Czar’s…and they meet with him and he’s in hiding because of his ministers..a coup or something….this is before the war….and isn’t England..or the ZPC/NWO….always behind espionage and treachery ?
Link for author Thomas Meyer http://www.perseus.ch who is an excellent writer and speaker – heard him recently in London.
Ann…have you ever read Rudolph Steiner’s The Karma of Untruthfulness; Vol l and ll ? If I’m remembering correctly they’re written just before WW l and maybe even as late as 1916 in part, but they’re fascinating.; all about the machinations leading to war.
It’s not clear to me how to think about this (especially on my first cup of coffee). I was listening to some ‘cybernetics’ thing ( lecture by Stephen Wolfram, I think) the other day and a thing mentioned was two ways of looking at something — either at processes in a system, or as a series of events (as in a ‘state machine).
Historical perspective is undoubtedly useful, and yet we also have to look at the current state of the world. Some people involved will look at history, perhaps too much so, character of peoples, and streams from the past, and some at the current conditions and motivations, — and yet current conditions must take into account attitudes and beliefs from the past, including feelings of nationalism, exceptionalism, and various traditions and belief systems. The latter should not blinds us to the present however. Hard to tell how much weight to give to each of these components. For instance, to what degree do Russian oligarchs and fifth columnists feel nationalism and what chances for those feelings to kick in to override their current thoughts, greed, individualism, and such? The former is ‘state machine’ while the latter is ‘process’, I think.
OK — so Hitler underestimated the Russian feelings of motherland and the resistance. How operative is that today. It looks like it is very much in play among the people, and yet there is also the oligarchs, who think differently and more selfishly, and also the desire of people to be modern and have electronics and the assumed benefits of ‘western values’. US/EU is making it much easier to see through and reject ‘western values’ by their atrocious behavior and exploitation, and the traditional values to be more firmly embraced (as well as some nostalgia for the socialist values USSR). US traditional values are being destroyed by the neocon fascists.
The US had always been a ‘fabric’ with woof and weft: one one hand the ideals of liberty, rugged self-sufficiency and innovation, Bill of Rights, etc. as well as socialism, but also threads at right angle of imperialism, authoritarianism, and fascism (control by wealthy and business) — people values vs fascist values.
So what is the current ‘state of the world machine’? Aside from process thinking, all we have is the current state, even if it includes ideas from the past. The nature of US exceptionalism is not the same as it was 200 years ago, and imperialism and fascism is stronger now than ever (with less socialistic and isolationism than existed in the end of 19th century and first half of 20th century with their social movements).
I guess you need to ask some old Russians about this sort of analysis in Russia, and likewise for other countries. But I am leery of assigning too much weight to the past and thinking that history will ‘repeat’ itself — especially history that current generations do not remember but have only read about or heard from older people who have caricatured much of it. Process and history is useful, but all we really have now is the current state of things, even as historical revisionism goes on in an attempt to better understand the past — or to distort it or invent it as propaganda.
BT:
…is a resumption of the previous fascist oligarch war against the USSR.
Pathetic – it is, at best, a continuation of the war between one set of oligarch’s and another. No difference – the canon fodder all continue to die http://stalingrad_1943.tripod.com/stalingrad/id19.html
“… With the Party elite wrapped up in a web of corruption, the public had become deeply disillusioned about the whole system of socialism. Is this what the older generation had fought and died for in the Great Patriotic War? To many, as years went on during Brezhnev’s time, the whole system was a sham. This would be reflected in the workplace and dissent movement. Dissidence in the Soviet Union was beginning to slowly emerge by the 1960s. It had initially started after Stalin’s death, when Khrushchev’s thaw had started. This movement would increase even more with the deepening disillusionment that the system would reform. The Soviet dissident movement still had to be careful and tread lightly, because the Party still had the power to crackdown on obvious resistance and protest. This dissident movement began with writers and their literary works, criticizing the system. Most of their works would be banned and in some cases, the writers would be exiled or jailed. The younger generation, mostly the educated middle class, helped the dissident movement grow. They were susceptible to change and longed for more freedoms that Western societies had. This movement would slowly grow during the Brezhnev years and finally erupt with the emergence of Gorbachev’s glasnost. The movements main concerns were with human rights, different nationalities self-determination, and of course, economic reform. The fear of repression by the Party was not enough to check the seething economic disillusionment.”
Ann
Cheers. I’m not familiar with the internal politics and infighting in Czarist Russia, but I imagine there was quite a bit of conflict, as in all monarchy type regimes. With Europe being generally hostile to Russia, I’m sure outside influences played the usual role creating internal conflict.
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Current details and local circumstances differ, but what I meant was the overall goal is the same and that some of the political leaders are playing a remarkably similar role to their predecessors in the past.
websayan on June 23, 2015 · at 5:37 pm UTC
Pathetic…
Your attack troll has nothing to do with the points I made and is a typical “attack the messenger with strawman arguments” websayam webspamming rubbish. Given the obvious nature of your troll, and the obvious offensive intent of it, I’m surprised it was passed through moderation, since it obviously is simply a personal attack without relevant content.
The fire of war is running out of fuel. People the world over are coming to a conclusion that finding themselves in a war is unnecessary; they are becoming informed thanks to the Saker and educated informers who stay up burning away the midnight oil.
As much as people say they abhor China they just need to look at their immediate possessions, their Gucci, their iPhone/Samsung, that they treasure, and see the tag “Made in China”. China is intellectually developing and rapidly heading toward some kind democratic system.
The age of war, since Jesus was crucified by the Zionist Jews, is drawing to a close.
Whilst some Europeans and other westerners maybe drawn to Islam, it is estimated that in Indonesia some 2 million a year are converting to Christianity. Many are so fed up with in fighting there fueled by Obama’s brother’s Muslim Brotherhood, that was set in place by their father, they are jumping on boats and getting out despite personal danger at sea.
It’s not just a matter of people running away from conflict/oppression, you got to look deeper at their actions. They know the dangers of sea born escapes but, they do it anyway. Why?
And the people in Donbass, who had no where to go and stayed, saying that they are being fired at by both sides, and say,”Why? We just want peace!”
The pope came out last week and said that 6 Billion have to go! The guy is a nut case as today he has said that terrorism is not on, so how does he reconcile that with saying that 6 Billion have to die? Now even the Catholics are waking up.
The era of war on Earth is coming to a close and what we are seeing are the dying embers of that fire; it is obviously evident. It takes as long as it takes for the critical mass to shift from not wanting to know to unknowing to knowing. When the majority of people stop saying,”Ït’s none of my business,” to, “this madness must stop.” It will stop.
The upcoming world financial collapse will bring that knowing to top of mind. The collapse maybe short lived if we can encourage people to think not need to be directly involved and that all they need to do is think and say, collectively, “Énough!”
Thank you Saker for your choice of your life’s work!
Very interesting news. I would actually love to live in Transnistria if it wasn’t for all the bas***ds in power over there…when will this oligarchy take-over end ?
I’ve actually been watching the Ron Paul Liberty Report. He does a new one almost every day. They’re very good…here’s one for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l4Rzy7yzKY
Odessa region governor Mikheil Saaksshvili has come up with another scare tactic involving Russia: the Kremlin, he claims, is now working on yet another project, “Bessarabia”, which it intends to implement in the Odessa Region.
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“I am ashamed to acknowledge but it’s Vladimir Putin who has recently thought more about Ukrainian Bessarabia than our own government,” the Ukrainian media quoted him as saying on Monday.
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He expressed concern that the residents of the area only see Ukraine in a negative light.
“They [the residents] are now isolated… And they perceive Ukraine only as greedy bureaucrats and horrific roads which nobody has repaired for a long while…as the prosecutor of the Odessa Region, who is blocking ferriage across the Danube, which is for them a source of income…as the judge of the Izmailsky district, who forbid the farmers from obtaining their harvest..,” the politician said somewhat incoherently.
“The majority of the population in Bessarabia only watch Russian [TV] channels,” those were the only details revealed by Saakashvili.
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Bessarabia is a geographic region in Eastern Europe which is currently divided between the countries of Moldova and Ukraine. Ukraine controls the narrow strip of land along the Black Sea which separates the body of water from Moldova and connects the rest of Ukraine with Romania.
The area was ceded to Imperial Russia in the aftermath of the Russo-Turkish War of 1806-1812; it was later reclaimed by the Soviet Union after the Second World War and divided between two of its republics – Moldavia and Ukraine.
After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the two republics, which became independent states, preserved the existed partition of the territory.
Excellent report – thanks SF.
A transcript of Carter’s address to German defense contractors/NATO personnel on June 22nd:
http://www.defense.gov/Transcripts/Transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=5641
As you can read, he’s in full neo-con, ‘Iraq-has-WMD/Iran-has-the-Bomb/Russia-aggression’ mode – pick your excuse for those big MIC contracts. Also plugging TTIP/TISA which he (rather unwisely) makes all-but contingent on NATO arms-proliferation.
Pushes the immigration button – hard with heavy emphasis on ISIL terrorism (though fails to explain why US foreign policy includes arming them in one part of the MENA and attacking them in another) . Also, naturally, makes no mention of the role the US played in causing MENA destabilization in the first place – the result being…forced migration into Europe by people fleeing for their lives. Or how ISIL is supplied through NATO member Turkey’s back-door. Can’t have facts getting in the way of hustling for the MIC, can we?
A spectacular display of neo-con hypocrisy/belligerence as per usual.
Ps While entirely predictable, I thought it was interesting Russian ‘aggression’ included only a passing reference to Crimea – as an ‘attempted annex’. Not sure whether it’s an acknowledgment any direct attack on the Crimea would likely provoke an anti-NATO storm – already in serious conflict with the countries it occupies – or a statement of intent to invade. There is that pesky problem of Crimean history – overwhelmingly Russian – and self-determination via (finally) popular referendum – also overwhelmingly Russian-identified.
And – bingo!
Danielle Ryan joins the dots:
http://russia-insider.com/en/media-coverage-europes-migrant-crisis-ignores-root-cause-nato/ri8228
NATO cowards are nowhere near willing to be incinerated . Pay no attention to their bluff . And if they as little as even try any hostile act , incinerate the filth without mercy.