Scott: I had today a Q&A session with a talented young patriot of Germany. The following is its summary:
Before I answer the questions, please read my post “Waiting for Yalta-2”
Q: Do you know the guy being interviewed here? Or the program he is on?
Assuming the subtitles are accurate, this is stuff that is hardly ever talked about in Germany. With very few exceptions, Germans are blind when it comes to the issue of German national sovereignty. Or to be precise the lack thereof… But I think it is of paramount importance.
A.: Vesti is a liberal news channel/radio. However, they also try to interview normal people, politicians and journalists there.
Alexey Fenenko is an associate professor at the Faculty of World Politics of the Moscow State University. Previously, he was a leading researcher at the Institute of International Security Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences (2004-2013), a project coordinator at the Academic Educational Forum on International Relations and a co-editor for ˝International Trends˝ magazine (2004-2011). He has a Doctorate in the History of France (2003).
Q.: Where do these guys stand in terms of Russian public opinion? Is the “average Russian” aware of the vassalage of Germany to the Allies on “sort of legal terms”?
A.: Yes. That’s the general understanding in Russia that Germany is being occupied by the US politically and militarily.
Q.: As a Russian, do you think that in the long run, Russia would be better off with an independent and unshackled Germany? I think the EU e.g. is mainly an institution to prevent a “German Reich”. And when it falls, which will be soon, who knows what could happen.
A.: In August 2014, President Putin said that we can never forget the lessons of the World War II. However, German people cannot be held for thousands of years responsible for what Hitler had done. Many Germans had died fighting with fascism, also.
As we say… Putin is always right.
Russia wants to deal with an independent Germany, free from NATO and the US.
Q.: When the Empire begins to lose its grip on Germany and Europe they will simply set fire to it. They have all the charges in place. And why would Russia stop them?
A.: They would in the past, but they can’t do this any longer. They might be able to create small conflicts like in Donbass. But nothing big.
Russia believes that the European Army with Germany as its leader will be instrumental in preventing any kind of “fire” coming from the US, Five Eyes and Israel.
Europe doesn’t want a war in Europe. The Empire does, because they are not in Europe. The devastation of Europe in a war would solve ALL their problems.
Pay attention, those who scream against the European Army are British Nationals, Americans, and Zionists.
See, Here’s Germany’s Plan For The European Defense Union
The European Army as designed by Germany, France and Russia will be instrumental in squeezing NATO out of Europe and liberating Germany from American occupation.
Q.: If I were King of Germany tomorrow, would I go to Putin and ask him to support my purge? The purge that would not even be necessary if my people were not completely brainwashed?
Would I ask for Russian protection if I were to expel US troops from Germany? How else do I get them out of here? Could my army even get the job done? If I need Russia to get rid of US vassalage, would Russia really support me for the sake of my own independence?
A.: Germany has already done this. Germany has already asked Russia to support its struggle for independence from the US and NATO occupation.
This video is an interview of historian and journalist Peter Feist to the German internet channel Quer-Denken.TV.
The idea is to create a new economic and political union with free trade and open borders between Russia, and Germany, France and Italy with secure energy delivery and common markets. China and Kazakhstan have also invested politically and financially into this project. Just think about thousands of Germans who were born in Kazakhstan and lived there and moved to Germany, but never severed connections with Kazakhstan. Nazarbayev wants them to come back. You understand why…
As expected, the “new democracies,” and also the UK, Sweden, Nederland, Switzerland with their governments and elites completely owned by the US are putting fight against those plans. They won’t be a part of this project.
All the “terror” attacks that you have. All the “workers’ ” protests in France. A fascist putsch in Ukraine. So called “refugee crisis” was organized starting with the USAID and UN cutting billions of dollars for refugee camps food programs in December 2014. The demands to sign TTIP, or the second kidnapping of Europe. All these was engineered to scare Germany and France from their cooperation with Russia.
That’s why Merkel is so determined to deal with “refugees” and to pay off Turkey. She just wants to pass this stage of unrest created by the Empire and to continue with a plan of squeezing the US out of Europe. She knows that an alternative is a war in Europe that the US planned to start.
The US has already lost to Russia and its allies (China, Iran, India and others) to some degree due to new supersonic missiles, that Russia says to be developing.
The truth is Russia already has them. When Russian military say that they are developing something, it means that they already have it.
Russia can hit any location in the world in 20 minutes and destroy entire countries without using nuclear weapons.
Right now, NATO knows what’s coming and they are increasing their presence in Europe, to make their exit more expensive for Europe and Russia.
The US was given an ultimatum and they are bargaining right now to get more for their withdrawal from Europe.
As soon as NATO is out of Europe, Germany will get all those peace agreements and political freedoms that the US refused to give.
Watch out for Poland, the Baltics, some Balkan countries, Turkey, Ukraine and other US shills. They will be screaming and stinking up the place to high heaven.
Q.: The fact that Russia, by and large, has adhered to international law for quite some time, just means that the Russian leadership has found it more favorable to do so, than not to do so.
It does not necessarily mean anything else, or signifies respect for international institutions. ( I’m trying to say: I would rather see my people’s fate in Putin’s than Obama’s hands, but ultimately I would like to see the German people’s fate in their own hands)
Do you think that for Russia it would be a good move to invest substantial resources in German sovereignty?
A.: Yes, I believe that an independent and sovereign Germany could become an ally of Russia and one of the world’s peacekeepers. Some time ago, we ceased the occupation of Germany and left. Now it’s time for the US to do the same.
Q.: Do you think Germany can win sovereignty without overt Russian support?
A.: No. But, Germany has Russia’s support.
Thank you for your time
Please explain how Russia “destroy entire countries without using nuclear weapons”?
Hypersonic missiles by themselves do not have such capacity. Unfortunately, a war fought with the strategic nuclear arsenals of the US and Russia *does* have the capacity to not only destroy nations, but to leave the Earth uninhabitable for humans and many forms of complex life. See http://www.nucleardarkness.org/warconsequences/hundredfiftytonessmoke/ and https://fas.org/pir-pubs/nuclear-war-nuclear-winter-and-human-extinction/
@steven starr: My fears exactly.
:(
Hello Scott and C.,
many thanks for finally writing a dedicated article about this!!
But I’m afraid Prof. Alexey Fenenko may not even go far enough with his 5 factors reducing the souvereignity of “Germany”:
RT Deutsch: Bundesregierung: Deutsches Reich existiert weiter – Aber: BRD mit diesem identisch
(German gov: German Reich still continues to exist until this day [did _not_ cease to exist in Mai 1945] as subject of intl. law, but the Federal Republic of Germany [BRD] is _identical_ with it (but in state-law it is impossible that 2 countries can ever exist on top of each other, so something with modern day “Germany” is wrong)
https://deutsch.rt.com/inland/25272-bundesregierung-deutsches-reich-existiert-weiter/
(Website of the german government “Bundestag”)
https://www.bundestag.de/presse/hib/2015_06/-/380964
“””””Völkerrechtssubjekt “Deutsches Reich”
Auswärtiges/Antwort – 30.06.2015
Berlin: (hib/AHE) Das Bundesverfassungsgericht hat in ständiger Rechtsprechung festgestellt, dass das Völkerrechtssubjekt “Deutsches Reich” nicht untergegangen und die Bundesrepublik Deutschland nicht sein Rechtsnachfolger, sondern mit ihm als Völkerrechtssubjekt identisch ist. Darauf verweist die Bundesregierung in ihrer Antwort (18/5178) auf eine Kleine Anfrage der Fraktion Die Linke zum Potsdamer Abkommen von 1945 (18/5033). Die Abgeordneten hatten sich unter anderem nach der “These von der Fortexistenz des Deutschen Reiches” erkundigt und gefragt, ob die Bundesregierung diese als öffentlich als unhaltbar zurückweisen werde, “damit diese Behauptung nicht von Neonazis und der so genannten Reichsbürgerbewegung für ihren Gebietsrevisionismus gegenüber den EU-Nachbarländern instrumentalisiert werden kann”. “””””
(autotranslated in 10 secs:
International law subject “German empire”
Foreign / answer – 6/30/2015
Berlin: (hib/AHE) The Federal Constitutional Court has found out in constant administration of justice that the international law subject “German empire” is not set and the Federal Republic of Germany not his legal successor, but with him is identical as an international law subject. The Federal Government in her answer (18/5178) on a small inquiry of the group expels to it The left to the Potsdam agreement of 1945 (18/5033)., Among the rest, the representatives had enquired after the “thesis of the further existence of the German empire” and had asked whether the Federal Government rejects this as public as untenable, “so that this assertion cannot be arranged for instruments by neo-Nazis and the so-called imperial citizen’s movement for her area revisionism compared with the EU neighbouring countries”.)
1952 UdSSR bietet Friedensvertrag für Deutschland an = BRD Nazikolonie lehnt sofort ab !
In 1952 Stalin offered Germany a peace treaty – The West-allied Nazi colony “Federal Republic of Germany” _refused_)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-w7W2HK5Kw
Deutschland hat keinen Friedensvertrag
(Germany has no WW2 peace treaty, none at all, with nobody)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i24CV9wvsI
BRD ist kein Staat – Das Grundgesetz ist erloschen!
(Federal Republic of Germany is _no_ country, it has no constitution and its military “Basic Law” may even be invalid now)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGWRj4-pE2E
Staatsangehörigkeit DEUTSCH – Staatenloos im eigenen Land – Reiner Oberüber
(citizenship DEUTSCH [in bold letters as in our “documents”] – stateless in our own country)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jemmfzjJE4
staatenlos.info – Die Nazi Marionetten der Europäische Union = 4. Reich
(The Nazi puppets of the EU == 4. Empire)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lpGXr2feVU
ARD bestätigt erneut Friedensverträge für Deutschland existieren nicht !
(German “state” TV confirms: Germany has no Peace Treaty)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEZyXpN-M0Y
Gregor Gysi: Deutschland – Das besetzte Land
(Germany – The occupied country)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cuDUqNGA6g
If Putin really seriously believes or hopes to ever find _any_ agreement with Germany(‘s “government”) then he must be a naive daydreamer, which sounds unlikely.
Maybe he hopes for a Revolution on german streets.
But sadly: Most germans are too busy trying to pay the bills and watch TV-zombification whenever they have a spare minute.
And the rest – those who would really be ready to revolt – get condemned and labeled by the propaganda Z-Media “as Nazis”.
Then again – many of them are genuinely more sympathetic to right wing ideas.
It is _hopeless_.
Don’t count on _any_ help from Germany.
It would be a much better idea to make use of your right to come here and visit us again (with your special forces).
Ok, probably will give the US an excuse to nuke (not only) Russia (although according to 2+4 it would be Russia’s full right).
As I said h o p e l e s s :(
Germans: Don’y pay GEZ !
I rather will go to prison, but after Maidan, Odessa and Mariupol my dignity forbids me to ever in my life pay for Z-German “state” TV (which I don’t watch since 1998, when I threw away my TV).
Here are forms which you can send to “german” “authorities” and as CC: to the Embassy of Russia and to Russia’s Military Court in Moscow:
http://staatenlos.info/musterschreiben.html
Very Interesting.
Who will identify if the entire objective set out in the QA session is another ‘con game’ by AZ cabal or a sincere trial of cooperation between countries of ‘old Europe’ and core Eurasia?
> As soon as NATO is out of Europe,
@Scott, after your Yalta-2 article I repeat my question in a different wording: What are you smoking?
Where can I get that stuff?
You think NATO cannot dissolve? CENTO (CENtral Treaty Organisation) was a sister organisation of NATO. It is already in the dustbin of history.
I cannot imagine that I fly like a bird only from wishful thinking.
I cannot imagine that NATO lets itself disappear, withouth in revenge setting everything on (nuclear) “fire”.
Prove me wrong and I give you 2 beer.
Your thinking is very Christian, very Western. A book, a play, a movie or an opera ends in an apocalypsis, or an apotheosis. This is a good frame of mind when reading Western books, but not very useful when looking at the future.
You have seen the USSR and the Warsaw pact: one day they were huge and powerful, the next day only a page in the history books. EU and NATO are not different. The day the empire obtains less tribute from a country than the occupation army costs, is the day the empire withdraws its troops. No shot needs to be fired.
I don’t read fiction books and I’m not much into religion.
You simplify and flatten sophisticated complex subjects, maybe that’s “Western” and “Christian”?
You mentioned the fall of the Eastern Block and the Warsaw pact as example, oh, sure.
Well – I lived through that only 1 km east of the Berlin Wall.
However, there is a difference which you did not mention: None of those fell apart by themselves.
The West worked half a century (starting before WW2 with the Soviet Union) to make that happen, and then they finally had economically weakened us enough and had found enough Gorbachow style traitors who were willing for a sellout:
Deal With the Devil: How the Global Elite Re-colonized China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFQhVAwbB6o
Now tell me where Russia or China are working on something eveil like thisto let NATO or the USA fall apart. Huhh??
Point 2: Then you claim that “I’m western and religious” only because I see something happening as a reality in which they used to believe for centuries (Apokalypse)?
That’s not logic, that’s apples with pears.
Today it is not only a technical _possibility_ but even a most likely probability.
What is unlikely to happen is that it will not take place.
Think about it. It’s nowadays enough to have some short-circuit error.
I won’t even but the aging poorly maintained old nuclear powerplants onto the table, let alone spent fuel rods or their safety (of getting properly cooled without interuption).
Only because I’m not HippyHappyEveryThingIsFine doesn’t make me a “Westernised Christian”.
And beingBlind != beingOptimistic
Also I wonder why you won’t talk about anything of all the rest I wrote just only today.
Nice rant, but try again (with some substance, if possible).
As for the EU: It will probably end rather soon. But not like the CCCP, but like Yugoslavia.
And not Russia is getting everything prepared for that to happen, but the EU itself is (via its USA servants dictated “policy”).
Therefore you cannot compare the collapse of the East with a potential future collapse of the West.
It’s simply not a 1:1 analogy.
Fukushima alone (read the numbers) :
over 400 tons of nuclear material in the pool could reignite
http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-tepco-is-risking-the-removal-of-fukushima-fuel-rods-the-dangers-of-uncontrolled-global-nuclear-radiation/5359188
Now, think of all the Nuclear plants all over Europe.
What do you think happens in case of a civil war?
That’s why you wrote (something which you probably find “cool” but) before thinking.
In Ukraine we almost had this event last year, when the power supply to Crimea got blown up.
Google the details yourself.
It was discussed here.
@passerby:
Ignoring the facts may make this life more livable, but it doesn’t make me a “Western Christian”!
Exmples?
nuclear war almost started in
https://www.google.de/search?q=nuclear+war+almost+started+in&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=c1g8V6baA4vgUr-StNgH
1983 Soviet nuclear false alarm incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident
This Is How America and the Soviet Union Almost Started a Nuclear War
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/how-america-the-soviet-union-almost-started-nuclear-war-14420
20 Mishaps That Might Have Started Accidental Nuclear War
by Alan F. Philips, M.D.
http://nuclearfiles.org/menu/key-issues/nuclear-weapons/issues/accidents/20-mishaps-maybe-caused-nuclear-war.htm
5 Cold War Close Calls
http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/5-cold-war-close-calls
Norwegian rocket incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_rocket_incident
Stanislav Petrov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov
And now consider, that back then they still had some “Hot Wire” for such incidents, from Washington to Moscow, which is not there anymore.
Noooo, completely unlikely (christian belief from reading too many western books …)
b52 incident broke apart nuclear
https://www.google.de/search?q=b52+incident+broke+apart+nuclear&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=YFo8V-G3IMHTU7K9voAN
Declassified report: Two nuclear bombs nearly detonated in North Carolina
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/12/us/north-carolina-nuclear-bomb-drop/
Document Reveals 1961 Nuclear Close-Call over North Carolina
http://www.history.com/news/document-reveals-1961-nuclear-close-call-over-north-carolina
1961 Goldsboro B-52 crash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Goldsboro_B-52_crash
“””””The 1961 Goldsboro B-52 crash was an accident that occurred in Goldsboro, North Carolina, on January 24, 1961. A B-52 Stratofortress carrying two Mark 39 nuclear bombs broke up in mid-air, dropping its nuclear payload in the process.[2] The pilot in command ordered the crew to eject at 9,000 feet (2,700 m). Five men successfully ejected or bailed out of the aircraft and landed safely. Another ejected but did not survive the landing, and two died in the crash.[3] Controversy continues to surround the event as information newly declassified in 2013 reinforced long-held public suspicions that one of the bombs came very close to detonating.”””””
Maybe you are also one of those who (I make no joke) are claiming, that nuclear bombs are a myth (and don’t work)??
YT is full of that trash.
Well – it would be too nice.
But sadly there is undeniable video footage from Nevada (1950ties) and the Great Barrier riff.
One day you will wake up and people will tell you: “The Americans are leaving” and you will not believe them. The Americans will leave Europe and return to Smalltown, U.S.A., in the same way the Soviets left their barracks in East Germany: knowing that the place they are going to is worse than the place they are leaving behind.
In afterlife or before?
You words in Gods ear! (I make in this case an outspoken exception and do say this).
Then fine, and I owe you the 2 beer.
If not, then you owe me 3 beer (but probably I won’t notice anymore that you cannot deliver).
Cheers!
Hmm. This is what we call the unthinkable. And it’s interesting to know that people are thinking it. The scenario of German power leading the struggle to cast the US out of Europe is the only possible future for Europe. It’s unthinkable, but it’s being thought. Good.
If I were in Europe I would look to Russia as a possible life rope, wondering if Russia would actually throw down the rope, and if I could actually grasp it, and if our two efforts combined could pull me out of the sea of troubles.
There is analysis that comes too soon, or rather that speaks of the potential future as if is already here. And of course, for it even to be a potential, it must already be here in some form. But shadows and light are not yet concrete. We can hope.
Scott, you are an amazing addition to the Saker’s cast of wonderful volunteers. Please stay close, even after you’re a famous author, and keep writing, and bringing us these wild thoughts and insights, and good visions borne on a magical breeze from Russia.
That’s undenied!
I just need such drugs.
Or this discussion could very well be completely off target and not describing reality at all. Russia focuses on its need to achieve a Geopolitical Eurasian Integration, ignoring small details like 2 world wars and the prevailing Revanchist movement in German politics and also in financial and industrial elite social cycles, which dreams of a new glorious Reich. This discussion ignores the level of extreme negative feelings Germany creates to its Southern EU partners, who she now treats like vassals, to France, which will never trust Germany and to the Eastern EU countries, which may be crazy, but they won’t allow Germany to push eastwards once more.
Furthermore, it also ignores the real nature of Angela Merkel, a politician so cynical, she would sell out everybody else, if she thought it will benefit her. History hasn’t shown her being a politician that puts her country or the EU first. The latest example is the disastrous immigration policy she enforced on the rest of Europe, the one she had to take back in a hurry. A policy most likely put into place to satisfy the industrialists mindless whim to invite millions of Muslim workers and create a new cheap workforce for the German factories, just to antagonize China. And a NWO army of conquest, if needed. This whim could very well be the end of Europe as we know it and colossal mistakes like this don’t place Mutti Merkel as the savior of Europe in the History books or in the minds of the people. And we haven’t really started talking about her being a Liberal, a Bildenberger and a hypocrite i.e. condemning surveillance policies on herself, conveniently ignoring that she has done the same to others. So, she is not really the politician described in the above discussion, the Promised One who saves the Fatherland from the evil Americans and restores order out of chaos.
As for a German led “European Army”, the very thought of it sends shivers down my spine. And every other European spine for that matter. Does Europe really need a new Wehrmacht to protect it from evil? I understand the need for Russians to find allies, but are they willing to dance with the devil, one more time? Wasn’t the last time, enough?
Oh, and one last thing. It is time for Germans to stop whining about how others make them do terrible things. “Hitler made me do it, Honecker made me do it, Obama now makes me do it!” Come on! They should stop acting like they are somehow just little innocent victims of History all the time and take responsibility for their actions, for once!
@Extinctus ambitur idem :
I agree with many parts of what you have written, but you seem to misinterpret the following:
“””””prevailing Revanchist movement in German politics and also in financial and industrial elite social cycles, which dreams of a new glorious Reich.”””””
There aren’t any such signs in german politics, not even the sligtest ones (only in hooligan circles at some rowdy soccer clubs).
The problem is the opposite: The Zionists refuse to solve the German question since 1945, because this lets them better exploit the world, europe and – you hear correctly – including “Germany”.
They have about 75 thousand US soldiers in Germany and the german tax payer has to pay for all expenses, germany (the colony) delivered several highly expensive nuclear submarines to Israel, for free, paid by the german tax payer (or state deficit zeroes).
The US can do here what they want, their military bases are ex-territorial areas (!).
Their global drones wars need the Ramstein base, also spying wouldn’t be possible half as effective without their presence here.
They keep the Status Quo going for as long as possible. It is no exaggeration to state that the Zionists are continuing to run the 4th Reich. They want to prevent peace treaties and a settlement of WW2 under all circumstances. WW2 is ongoing and this lets them legally have military bases and permanent operations globally.
While doing so they keep their propaganda running everywhere 24/7/365. They pretend to fight fascism, and by doing so are themselves running such a system. The EU achieves the same goals for them as Hitler’s empire, that’s the only thing which counts to these circles.
How else can I describe it?
Most average germans are peaceful and everybody is afraid of getting blamed to be a Nazi.
Most are modest actually middle class citizens who respect other cultures and simply want to live peacefully.
Only our AZ “Elites” have very different “agendas”.
Do you know Chrchill’s quotes regarding, that in his 1945 view the western allies “fought the wrong enemy” and “should have jointly with Hitler fought the Russians”?
Well – that may hint to you, how WW2 was lost by Nazis and won by (Zio)Nazis at the same time.
unthinkable churchill wanted to nuke east-berlin
https://www.google.de/search?q=churchill+should+have+joined+hitler&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=JTk8V8jHGImsU__1m-AD#q=unthinkable+churchill+wanted+to+nuke+east-berlin
Operation unthinkable: How Churchill wanted to recruit defeated Nazi troops and drive Russia out of Eastern Europe
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1209041/Operation-unthinkable-How-Churchill-wanted-recruit-defeated-Nazi-troops-drive-Russia-Eastern-Europe.html
Operation Unthinkable: Churchill’s plan to start World War III
https://in.rbth.com/blogs/2013/06/13/operation_unthinkable_churchills_plan_to_start_world_war_iii_26091
Operation Unthinkable
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable
I’d like to add just two points.
1. Recently the Russian orchestra played a piece of Johann Sebastian Bach in Palmyra.
2. Putin speaks fluently German. Two weeks ago he translated spontaneously a former German politician who was hostinvited to a Russian TV show. It seems to me that the Russian president likes to speak German.
I’m convinced that the official Russia doesn’t share that sort of hatred (self-hatred) towards Germany. Hatred that seems to be quite popular among certain users here.
A hostile atmosphere between Russia and Germany only fits the interests of the “AZ Empire” and their installed puppets. Everyone who promotes such things serves the “Empire” …
Furthermore I’m convinced, too that the official versions in the history books regarding WWI (and other events) are falsified.
I agree with your reference to this spontaneous translation done by Putin. I also think this is revealing. Although he could have been gripped by a sudden, spontaneous desire to translate, isn’t it more likely that he seized this opportunity to display his personal affinity for the German language and people? Do you think he may be opening a door for an informant to approach him?
And there are many German visitors to the Kremlin. *Note* – many, almost weekly, German visitors to the Kremlin. It seems that even a city councillor from Germany can get a face-to-face meeting with the KGB-trained president of Russia. Surely, Putin does not need to make this much time in his schedule to meet with German officials.
I have to smile because before the last federal election in Canada, I sounded exactly like Martin. Hopeless. Absolutely hopeless (that is a direct quote). And then for some reason, even while buried under 6 feet of propaganda promoting Harper’s conservatives, the people elect Trudeau’s liberals with a majority govt. And Trudeau turns towards Russia. This was totally inconceivable just six months ago. So I sincerely hope Germany surprises us too.
Congrats to Canada, S113.
Well, we have the AfD and let’s see the outcome in Austria’s Presidential election (2nd round) on May 22, as well as the Chancellor re-shuffeling.
But Syriza etc show that one should be careful in expecting very much (or anything).
The AfD – if it ever wins a majority in germany – it will this way or that way side with capitalism.
On the other hand they are the only ones who stand for some posituve change at all.
Let’s wait and see.
@S113
Thanks for your answer.
Well I stopped setting hopes in the outcomes of democratic elections. I don’t know much about the situation in Canada but in Europe and especially in Germany all the top politicians from left to right are in the Empire’s hands. Whether they made their careers out of conviction, greed or because they “are susceptible to blackmail” that doesn’t matter. It’s all a big play with mediocre actors.
This all was only possible with the control of the big media, from liberal to conservative. And here again, all top media outlets are ruled by Atlanticists/Zionists.
It’s not fair to blame the German people that they’re brainwashed, all the western nations are brainwashed, focused on consumerism, sports, tittytainment and fragmented information.
And to get back to the relationship AZ Empire/Russia/Germany, here’s once again a quotation of George Friedman, founder of STRATFOR from February 2015:
— [Quotation] —
(01:38) … the primordial interest of the Unites States over which we for centuries have fought wars, the first second and cold war has been the relationship between Germany and Russia. Because united they are the only force that could threaten us and to make sure that that doesn’t happen.
(09:37) The issue to which we don’t have the answer is what will Germany do. The real wild card in Europe is that as the United States builds its cordon sanitaire, not in Ukraine, but to the west, and the Russians try to figure out how to leverage the Ukrainians out, we don’t know the German position…
(10:24) For the United States, the primordial fear is… German technology and German capital, Russian natural resources and Russian manpower… the only combination that has for centuries scared the hell out of the United States.
— [End of quotation] —
I’ve embedded the corresponding video here: https://valjean72.wordpress.com/2016/01/18/geopolitische-leitlinien-der-usa-teil-2/
@Valjean72 : I can back every single syllable of what you said.
And yes, it’s not only Germans who are brainwashed, but thanks to Z-Media relates to all western countries and (sadly) beyond.
So you believe Trudeau is not a puppet for empirez use?
Well, Iet me establish your warrant:
1) I like Bach very much, Händel even more.
2) Like Putin I speak fluent German (BTW, Putin’s transaltion coudl be better)
but my conclusion is diffrent than yours: I do not like Germans as a nation (some individual Germans are fine, but they always stress, for example ‘I am from Sachsen’). Then, what does it say about your method?
I don’t think that there is a country in history that has taken responsibility for its actions like Germany has done for WWII. And even for a war they didn’t start, WWI.
Scott / C. wrote:
“””””Russia believes that the European Army with Germany as its leader will be instrumental in preventing any kind of “fire” coming from the US, Five Eyes and Israel.
Europe doesn’t want a war in Europe. The Empire does, because they are not in Europe. The devastation of Europe in a war would solve ALL their problems.
Pay attention, those who scream against the European Army are British Nationals, Americans, and Zionists.”””””
Towarishs, are you serious about that?
Which bugs have bitten you?
The problem with your statements is, that almost without exception all (!) established political forces inside the EU are unconditiinal servants of this very Zionist Empire, acting very visibly as high treason motherland traitors (including most infiltrated subverted “opposition” from the pseudo-left to the pseudo-right).
And you want _them_ to form a “EU Army”??
Then even a Germany-led one?
Is this a political analysis or Scott’s Humor satire?
Here is your Anti-Empire German leader:
COMPACT 9/2013 – Abwählen! Die amerikanische Kanzlerin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ4NKuKuPd8
https://juergenelsaesser.wordpress.com/2013/08/28/merkel-und-der-syrien-krieg-die-amerikanische-kanzlerin/
What we need is not more EU, but more Europe (and _no_ EU!).
Nigel Farage Exposing EU Dictators
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsW2s4xxpNk
Martin asks for drugs that cause the bits of optimism in Scott that resonate with other commenters here. The situation is dire, no one disagrees with that. But the idea that Hope is a drug induced delusion strikes me a counter-productive. I’m all for realism, but preparing wet blankets to cast over every incipient thought or emotion of freedom from the present mental and physical prison Germany finds itself in? Come on, man! Whose side does that serve?
There are the objective difficulties, which are massive. Without a subjective change for the better among the German population, there would be no hope. However to say such a change is not possible is to serve the AZ Empire. Anything is possible. The hard work is to make it probable, and then get it done.
Meanwhile, what do you put forward as hope? What you know and have nostalgia for in the past. Soviet occupation, the Red Army marching west, to beat back the fascists. This strikes me as the Don Quixote of the East, and we all know that chivalrous knight was out of his mind.
Real revolutions are revolutions in consciousness. If you want a change in the outer world, look inward first, and see what that consciousness is generating, and what it serves. Getting rid of your TV was a great start. But there are still chains of mind control to be broken. Until that happens, and you see that a solution is possible, how can you be part of a solution you can’t even imagine yet? How can you help fellow Germans to change, to get free of mind control? By being a bearer of wet blankets to cast over any freedom fires that get lit anywhere in others? Good luck with that approach.
Speaking to me is somebody who most likely has some form of regular monthly income.
So that permits you already to feel more relaxed about everything. For my projects I hardly ever get any money.
> How can you help fellow Germans to change, to get free of mind control?
Did I ever claim or only promise that?
No, I gave up on Germany decades ago.
And I cannot and don’t want to identify with them.
p.s. See my name, repeat your speech on the day when 50 million germans are marching to Berlin demanding a return to Soviet Communism.
Otherwise I don’t have anything to do with Germany or Germans, nor will be here forever.
Finances and several organisational and language barriers are the only reason why I’m still here. As Merkel (lol) uses to say: “Not my country anymore.”
> Good luck with that approach.
FYI: I’m watching these pro-souvereignity conferences for years on yt and every morning read the alternative patriotic press mirror at http://info.kopp-verlag.de/index.html
They also stood on the Russian side in terms of Ukraine or Syria.
I appreciate all of this and they won’t need my help.
The majority of them rejects communism alltogether. They call Merkel a “Communist” (whereas she is a neoliberal US robot asset) and often enough blame the EU for being the new “Soviet Union” in the most negative sense (although in reality the EU is a perfect Anti-CCCP). They align more to center-patriotic ideas (in Germany labeled by MSM as “right-wing populists” / while in most other countries they would not even pass as lame soft patriots).
All nice and well, but while not being anti-russians they are rather anti-communists.
Please understand that my enthusiasm often ends at that point. Also in some cases I noticed that their friendship for Russia may hit a limit when you confront them with the terrible war-crimes that the Wehrmacht has committed such as on Crimea.
Maybe you don’t like to hear it, but there is really not all that much reason to be too optimistic.
It’s all a split up divided mess.
I don’t mind hearing it at all, Martin. You are on the ground there and know the details 1000 times better than I could, from the west coast of the USA. Hope must be tempered with realism, but I didn’t realize how negative you are on Germany, that you would leave it if you could, or if you spoke Russian or maybe Chinese?
There’s no equivocation there! You are DONE with Deutchland. End of story. But you’re stuck there.
The place has been put through the wringer for a century, because it is that important to the Empire to mess it up, and get Germans and Germany to give up.
I have the long view in mind: The key to world domination of the AZ “Sea Power” Empire has been pretty much the same for 150 years: Kill what Lincoln, Friedrich List, Bismarck and others set in motion: The development of the “World Island” hinging on cooperation between Germany and Russia.
I just find it a bit curious that you spend as much time and effort on a site run by an anti-communist Russian who is glad the communist ideology is gone (mostly) from Russia and other parts of the former Soviet Union. I don’t mind openly communist supporters of present day non-communist Russia at all, frankly. I understand their emotion and nostalgia. But I consider it an emotion, not a realistic plan. Maybe Saker has commented on this matter before? I’d be very interested in what he has to say to you (communists nostalgic for the USSR), besides the fact that he is re-evaluating Stalin, along with many of the rest of us.
HI Bro Anon , it is almost 4am here, so only a few ords.
“””””I just find it a bit curious that you spend as much time and effort on a site run by an anti-communist Russian who is glad the communist ideology is gone (mostly) from Russia and other parts of the former Soviet Union.”””””
Mr. Saker cannot be that much of an anti-communist, otherwise he would simply ban me from his blog. I think that he notices, that the current capitalist system alone cannot be a solution to resolve all of Russia’s problems for all parts of the society. I think he stated a few times that Russia under Putin is attempting to find a compromise among white army and red army..
As for myself vs. Germany: China is no alternative. Also I simply love Russia more than China (language, dishes, culture, music). China is a wonderful country, but my emotions make me feel at home in Russia, while in China I would always feel like a tourist.
Language: I learned alreday a lot of Russsian, but to get really fluent is not very easy.
Their Grammar is a complete burden.
Soviet Union: It could be an easy step by step plan. The problem is: Nobody in power including Putin is willing to make it happen. Not even Putin touches the Oligarchs. Let’s forget reversing the unbelievably massive _theft_ of public property.
Oligarchs into work camps! It is a very simple plan. Has nothing to do with what you call “nostalgia”. The problem is not nostalgia, but greed. And that’s a timeless always modern phenomenon.
Bro Anon,
in the few communist forums, such as on facebook, there are too many Trotsky fans whose first sentence is (quoting Chromsky) : The Soviet Union was not even remotely a communist country, Lenin was a right-wing extremist and what not.
Also most iof these forums refuse to admire nation-states including Russia.
With such freaks I have noting in common.
The only places where you find me therefore: Here and Cassad.
Also, only here you find really open-minded discussion peers from all over the world. It’s simply interesting.
I appreciate your frankness. It is duly noted.
When I watch Germany politically these days, I get this mental image of a large, friendly Rottweiler, bounding playfully, to an oompah band. Oompah, oompah, oompah pah. Did you notice that Germany came in last in Eurovision?? Oompah oompah oompah pah…. Aren’t they sort of behaving almost exactly like the composite AZ German state, hatched in the American think tanks and PR firms?
Nothing peculiar about any of this? Too good to be true perhaps?
Correctly monitored.
But: Although I’m not very enthusiastic about the muslim migrants invasion myself, I bet it was also their idea.
Including that they want me and everybody to be afarid of that massive influx of migrants.
That again let’s me ask questions which the average PEGIDA folks in Dresden probably hardly ask themselves: What for? Who is behind this? Why???
This: ??
STRATFOR: The main goal of the US-Empire is to prevent the alliance between Germany and Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFmfwqzWmHk
Yes, it is fascinating to try and think like whoever it is that may be behind this. I am sure that I cannot do it, but I try!
I keep going back to this interaction between Putin and Merkel, where he seems to be trying to do a soft interrogation of her (KGB), and she is avoiding him. Quite intentionally. I ask myself, is this natural avoidance behaviour from her, or does it look like she’s been coached on how to deflect Putin?
Then I think that the Germans may have created a cloak of invisibility for themselves to dodge the CIA. By promoting russophobia and Putinaphobia, they deflect attention. And then this large, friendly Bavarian Rottweiler routine would satisfy the CIA monitors that everything is correct, Germany is cooperating, and is no threat at all. What if this is actually a coordinated, organised, sophisticated, cohesive campaign. I believe the Germans could pull somthing like that off. That to me would be typical German behaviour.
So if true, this means someone is orchestrating this who is very familiar with KGB and with CIA practices. Not exactly just your average citizen. :-)
My thought on the refugee wave is that NATO perhaps assumed that Germans would finesse this and make it neat and orderly. Because Germans devour disorder like a powerful machine, when not impaired. Let’s say the large friendly Bavarian Rottweiler gives NATO what it wants, but with no finesse, no organisation. No special German touch – which NATO clearly takes for granted. The result is the smashing of these illusions about unity and the one-world collective that citizens have been fed for so long. It exposes in the harsh, naked daylight, the reality behind the CIA social engineering
While it is brutal to think of doing this to all these people, I can imagine that it was the best option available. Personally, I will never lose that picture from my mind of the refugee wave flowing into Germany. No PR can overcome that.
Your 2 articles make for very interesting reading and I would even accept that Putin – and possibly even a majority of Russians – see an entente Germany-Russia as desirable. But that such a deal is already finalized seems rather optimistic to me. In addition I’m surprised that the Russian historian in video1 does not mention § 139 of the German “Constitution” (GG §139) which states that “Die zur Befreiung des deutschen Volkes vom Nationalsozialismus und Militarismus” erlassenen Rechtsvorschriften werden von den Bestimmungen dieses Grundgesetzes nicht berührt.” which means that “The rules that were laid down to insure the denazification and demilitarization of the german people take precedence over any laws of this constitution” (my own clarified translation) – this is IMO a very clear and formal proof of the “obscure” subject of german non-sovereignity.
@ Scott
Sorry Scott, but I am confused a little bit. You say “I had today a Q&A session with a talented young patriot of Germany. The following is its summary:”
What follows however is the conversation between Russian historian Alexey Fenenko with the well-known in Russia political scientist Sergey Micheyev (Russischer Historiker Aleksej Fenenko im Gespräch mit dem in Russland bekannten Politologen Sergej Micheev).
Which one of these two is *you* Scott, A. Fenenko or S. Micheyev?
Also, both of these are Russians, judging by their names … so: where is that “young patriot of Germany” hiding?…
Thank you.
@ Anonymous on May 18, 2016 · at 7:14 pm UTC
wtf?
Scott’s article contains the two videos, one of which you just shortly described. The 2nd video doesn’t show Russian historians, but german “right wing populists”, “”conspiracy theorists and right wing esoterics” (that’s how Z-“german” MSM would usually “report” about them, if mentioning them _at_all__ (usually the hardly ever do).
But Scott’s (or rather C.’s as it appears, who probably sent Scott some email with the entire article, therefore it gets introduced by “Scott: […]”) Q/A session comes as text for about 50 lines between the first and the second video discussing the first video (it is not a transcript, but a discussion). Then there are 40 more lines of Q/A after the second video. Does this answer your question?
Dear Anonymous on May 18, 2016 · at 7:14 pm UTC
Thank you for your question.
In this my post, “Q” means Questions that were asked by our German research assistant C.
“A” means answers that I have provided to the best of my ability.
Also, our research assistant’s questions and remarks are highlighted in bold font.
As following:
Research assistant’s Question 1: Q: Do you know the guy being interviewed here? Or the program he is on?
Inserted Video
My first answer: A. Vesti [a program] is a liberal news channel/radio. [cont….]
Our research assistant’s Second question: Q.: Where do these guys stand in terms of Russian public opinion?
My second answer A.: Yes. That’s the general understanding in Russia that Germany is being occupied by the US politically and militarily.
and so on…
I have not provided the transcripts for two videos that I have posted here, mostly because I have been looking for these videos with Eng. subtitles.
Regards
I have to say this is unfortunately a very unlikely scenario. It’s unfortunate that Russia either does not know, or prefers to ignore, who the real enemy is.
The “Anglo-Zionist” empire exists but it is not the United States. The United States is a debased vassal state whose foreign policy is controlled by it’s own treasonous fifth column. I’ve often been amused that the US has often been called the “World’s Policeman” a very apt metaphor. Police enforce the laws and the cop is who we see as the active agent of enforcement. However, police simply enforce the laws, they don’t make them.
Ultimately, the foreign policy of the US serves the interests of the multinational corporate power structure and beyond that the international banking oligarchy. As far as Germany is concerned, they are the greatest beneficiaries of the current international economic and banking systems, especially as represented by the EU. What would be the motive to renounce that?
@Jonathan:
“””””I have to say this is unfortunately a very unlikely scenario. It’s unfortunate that Russia either does not know, or prefers to ignore, who the real enemy is.”””””
100% agreed with all you wrote.
I quote the first part of your message because that’s one of the main reasons why I called Scott’s article about “Yalta 2” or Scott’s/C.’s article about German-Russian entente daydreaming.
Yes: It is _unlikely_.
He/they present this as some new exciting development, as something which has a majority and is a geopolitical certainty.
While not reminding us, that such german patriots as talked about here (or as illustrated by Video 2) are in a total minority in todays Z-Germany. They may hold a rally from time to time or organzie such conferences, they may even find incresingly vibrating resonance with more and more germans on the grass roots, but nevertheless – they have not influence and no power. They are not yet in any positions of power, let alone international politics.
Petry’s AfD is the only hope for Germany at this time, but during the last federal elections in September 2013 they failed to pass the mandatory 5% hurdle (rigging? gave them 4.9%), although now (post 2015 migration wave) they increased their share to some 12% Germany-wide, according to (also rigged) polls. Probably would get more votes at the moemnt. But Z-MSM and the entireb established Z-“elite” are ranting against them all the time on all papers and channels.
If they really win enough seats in 2017 (the stupid zombified Green party [uglyness nobody here can imagine] also rose and may even get more votes than the AfD), then again they will be forced to join some party coalition, as always in german “politics”. From then on they get more money but have no power anymore, then they will get absorbed by the Z-ruling class. That’s how it is every time in West-“Germany” for all the time of its existance.
So, the scenario Scott/C. are describing here is – as said – a fairy tale.
Sorry, but that neither makes me a Western Christian nor a pessimist. It is simply the situation as it is.
I admit that I do not understand. what worries Americans in Europe? russians? they have South America and Canada if they want mega Empire. and if they want resources. they are safe with two oceans. anyway, there is nothing in EU worth two world war. i think that unknown “power” inside EU is using US to keep EU members “in place” regarding Russia. US is middle man. i still cannot see clearly what americans want. they cannot win war with Russia w/ or w/o EU NATO forces. i think there is something connected with old monarchies in EU. or Vatican. they still run world in old fashioned way. i really inclined to think that US is just tool of some… something, which have unresolved affairs with Russia. or, maybe, Russia is preventing those monarchies to rule world in ways they did for centuries. see, for example, mother Queen. what mother. mother Queen of ants. absolute nonsense in this modern world. i do not want ot insult dear Brits, but, that costume ball and “divine” old lady respersenting some mother of nation…remind me of various fathers of nations. North Korea, for example. many nations in EU, including germans were warriors for centuries when americans as nation not existed. so, the question is how deep is that dream of reality where we “live” and how would look like treshold when we wake up in different world. i am not saying that this benign and conditionally civilized world/Europe is so bad. i am shure that time of sudden change may come because world around us is in constant change. despite strong will, USA will not manage to keep strong grip around Europe and probably some other part of globe for long time. and that would probably mean “death” for some old PTB, monarchies, etc…
it is late. maybe i wrote bunch of nonsense ;-)
@Sanjin:
> it is late. maybe i wrote bunch of nonsense ;-)
No, it is not nonsense.
You are spot-on.
(beware the intentionally spread disinfo nonsense, pick the good links) :
most powerful bloodlines
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=most+powerful+bloodlines
These barbarians murdered one of the best ladies who ever were a princess, beloved Diana.
She wanted to help the Palestinians. And we all remember the images of her shaking hands with Lepra infected childs in Africa. She really wanted to help the poor, unlike most VIP’s who only do that as part of their marketing campaign before signing some deal which in reality makes the poor even poorer. No, Princess Diana was the only real princess. And not even her own sons avenge her. How can Phillip and Charles still wast some valuable air be being permitted to breathe?
USA is the Zionist’s current muppet tool, like Germany was until 1917, when they decided to migrate into a new snail’s house and decided to ditch Germany one and forever.
Hello Martin.
I was reading a lot of your comments.
You seem to be nostalgic of Soviet type DDR society, You are almost communist, but at the same time also antisemitic. Soviet type society is not compatible with strong national feelings ( at least in theory). You blame Zionist on everything, well, this is quite a normal way of thinking on this blog,
I was born in the USSR myself, yet I’m now a zionist in the sense that I live in Israel and I want Israel to exist. You didn’t liked that Deuthcland Uber alles associated with Nazi ( from some of your other comments). But for Jews Zionism is the same like Israel for Jews, that is it. There are different Jews, some are pro capitalistic, neoliberal, others are more socialistic minded. Yet you are again falling in the same pit like German Nazi blaming everything on Jews. The Saker is doing a very great mistake and disservice equating current Empire with Anglo-Zionist moniker.
This is the same old Capital against Labor class war in the Marx sense, and not nation like moniker of Anglo-Zionist. I don’t have a grudge against Anglos whatever it may mean nor can I be anti-Zionist, that would be suicide.
I care for Russia and even for Germany, ( though it took me a long time to find a peaceful attitude towards Germany) You can’t deny me the right to live, We can’t live in Europe as a free nation, we need our homeland. Now, what about Palestinians ? They just don’t agree to share this territory with Jewish State. They have 20+ other arabic countries, yet they want to exterminate Israel. Israel 70 years ago was hardly populated at all, today it is more or less developed country. We build it, the Jews.
Anyway I think it is a bit funny and Orwellian, that you are calling today Germany as a Z-Germany and some ultra leftist Israelis calling Israel Fascist Israel. Those words unfortunately lose their initial meaning, may be this is conspiracy from the Empire , Idk. lol But this is the ugly matter of facts.
You can’t deny that you are deep deep below antisemite after this quote.
USA is the Zionist’s current muppet tool, like Germany was until 1917, when they decided to migrate into a new snail’s house and decided to ditch Germany one and forever.
I don’t care much about Germany, I don’t care about USA. I don’t care about Russia.
Well, I do care to some extent, but let us leave alone.
Also, I was called Soviet occupant right when USSR collapsed, I was striped off Latvian citizenship, my birthplace and for 3 generations it was my home country. USSR collapsed, where could i go ? I’m not Russian, Latvia didn’t gave me citizenship, so I went to Israel. ( there are still about 200.000 non-citizen mostly russian speaking residents after 25 years).
Just leave us , and me personally alone. You are spreading dangerous type of antisemitism.
Kitzik:
Never again greet me with “Hello”, tnx.
Really??
I won’t waste my time for you after your various untrue statements about not only me, not only some picked statements that I made, but you are spreading untruths about Zionism and about almost any other subject you scratched.
Here really only a few points: Firtstly, I have always defended “jews” and have demanded “those blaming everything” on “the jews” to strictly distinguish Zionists from jews.
Google for my statements or shut up.
“martin from Soviet” wagenknecht ” jews against zionism”
https://www.google.de/search?q=%22martin+from+Soviet%22+wagenknecht&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=qpJRV73cCceuUvvChKgC#q=%22martin+from+Soviet%22+wagenknecht+%22+jews+against+zionism%22
“martin from Soviet” wagenknecht
https://www.google.de/search?q=%22martin+from+Soviet%22+wagenknecht&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=qpJRV73cCceuUvvChKgC
Then:
> striped off Latvian citizenship, so where should I go
How much can you turn facts upside down? You don’t need to be “a Russian”, every person who was ever citizen of the Soviet Union (no matter of which enthnicity or in which Republic) has the right to obtain a Russian passport.
So you make it yourself a bit too easy.
Maybe you enjoy what your Israeli occupation Nazi-Regime is doing to innocent ownders of the land which you stole:
Google Images: gaza children
https://www.google.de/search?q=israel+childs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiisdPrhYzNAhVFPxQKHQf4DSkQ_AUICCgC#tbm=isch&q=gaza+children
Those that murdering in the ratio 1 dead Israeli for 1500 dead Palestinians, those are semites like you and are communicating in a semetic language like yourself. So what removed of us is the true “Antisemite” ???
Learn the history of your bloody regime:
An honest Israeli Jew tells the Truth about Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erjftmFTWnE
Jews Against Zionism And Rothschilds
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jews+against+zionism
And now, as you removed believing in any of the so called “Religions” aka in reality evil sects: You also believe in Satan, correct? So go there …
You joined a Racist Apardheid regime by free choice and justify it with “Israel for Israelis”, forgetting that there wasn’t any Israel for 2000 years and that your regime murdered millions of Palestinians directly and indirectly who own the land.
Here your last chance to see the light.
Hint: Dig a bit and try to find out what your heroic innocent Israelis did in the 1940ties, not only when they “got rid” of teh Palestinians by drowning them in the Sea, but also with the Ethiopian jews which your racists didn’t accept as real jews (100 times the maximum permitted X-ray doses) when x-raying their heads.
removed. Please shut this conversation down now.Mod.
Ohhh dear, how well this sounds like “Yalta 2.0”:
NATO Announces War Policy Against Russia
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-18/nato-announces-war-policy-against-russia
Thank you Merkel (I won’t say “Mom Merkel” because that would be an insult against all mothers, btw that Merkel bitch has never had any childs)
Europe has a rosy future, indeed!
We can be so happy.
Just look at Greece:
EU-Turkey Migrant Deal Unravels Turning Greece Into Massive Refugee Camp
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-18/eu-turkey-migrant-deal-unravels-turning-greece-massive-refugee-camp
“””””It can be expected that, as soon as Turkish citizens will obtain visa-free entry to the EU, foreign nationals will start trying to obtain Turkish passports … or use the identities of Turkish citizens, or to obtain by fraud the Turkish citizenship. This possibility may attract not only irregular migrants, but also criminals or terrorists.” — Leaked European Commission report, quoted in the Telegraph, May 17, 2016.
According to the Telegraph, the EU report adds that as a result of the deal, the Turkish mafia, which traffics vast volumes of drugs, sex slaves, illegal firearms and refugees into Europe, may undergo “direct territorial expansion towards the EU.”
“If they make the wrong decision, we will send the refugees.” — Burhan Kuzu, senior adviser to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
Erdogan is now demanding that the EU immediately hand over three billion euros ($3.4 billion) so that Turkish authorities can spend it as they see fit. The EU insists that the funds be transferred through international aid agencies in accordance with strict rules on how the aid can be spent. This prompted Erdogan to accuse the EU of “mocking the dignity” of the Turkish nation.
The EU-Turkey migrant deal, designed to halt the flow of migrants from Turkey to Greece, is falling apart just two months after it was reached. European officials are now looking for a back-up plan.
The March 18 deal was negotiated in great haste by European leaders desperate to gain control over a migration crisis in which more than one million migrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle East poured into Europe in 2015.
European officials, who appear to have promised Turkey more than they can deliver, are increasingly divided over a crucial part of their end of the bargain: granting visa-free travel to Europe for Turkey’s 78 million citizens by the end of June.
At the same time, Turkey is digging in its heels, refusing to implement a key part of its end of the deal: bringing its anti-terrorism laws into line with EU standards so that they cannot be used to detain journalists and academics critical of the government.”””””
> btw that Merkel bitch
Ouch, I didn’t want to insult dear cute sex workers.
Well – there really is no word for Merkel, but the term “Merkel” itself is probably enough of a demonization noadays …
FYI: The only hope for Germany is the AFD (Alternative for Germany), a anti-mass migration pro-traditional values party which finally represents the camp as in Scott’s/C./s Video #2.
The Mainstream condemns this party for allegedly being homophobes, xenophobes, anti-atlanticists, anti-semites and what not.
As with Putin my only regret is, that they unfortunately aren’t Communists.
Here a sample (the lady is Dr. Frauke Petry, chemist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frauke_Petry
Frauke Petry in Landau – Langversion. Veranstaltung mit Diskussion. AfD Bayern TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFEoZaZwd8Y
As the pseudo-communist parties are less than a bad joke here (all through the line including the [so called!] Marxist–Leninist Party of Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist%E2%80%93Leninist_Party_of_Germany ) I will from now on no longer vote for the LEFT party and also not for the MLPD anymore, but for the AfD.
I hope that this will not turn out to be a mistake one day, the populist right-wing crowd as in Scott’s second Video or as in the AfD are the only ones who still produce some real thoughts in their brains. All the other parties across the spectrum are the always identical Pro-Zionist pro-American Anti-Russian trash. Most of all the so called Green party, which completely got dismantled and has no resemlance anymore which what it had one been during the West-German 1980ties, when they still used to protest against NATO and against Nukes and western military aggression. Now only trash, and that term isn’t tough enough. Outsiders cannot imagine the crappiness of that crap in their worst nightmares.
Therefore my pessimism.
But let’s hope for Austria this Sunday and for the AfD in Germany’s future elections.
To say this as a communist indicates how hopeless the situation has become here in (not only) Germany and all over Europe.
Ah, and I I’m saying the Montenegro and Grusinia just yesterday moved closer to NATO.
Hello Martin.
I was reading a lot of your comments.
You seem to be nostalgic of Soviet type DDR society, You are almost communist, but at the same time also antisemitic. Soviet type society is not compatible with strong national feelings ( at least in theory). You blame Zionist on everything, well, this is quite a normal way of thinking on this blog,
I was born in the USSR myself, yet I’m now a zionist in the sense that I live in Israel and I want Israel to exist. You didn’t liked that Deuthcland Uber alles associated with Nazi ( from some of your other comments). But for Jews Zionism is the same like Israel for Jews, that is it. There are different Jews, some are pro capitalistic, neoliberal, others are more socialistic minded. Yet you are again falling in the same pit like German Nazi blaming everything on Jews. The Saker is doing a very great mistake and disservice equating current Empire with Anglo-Zionist moniker.
This is the same old Capital against Labor class war in the Marx sense, and not nation like moniker of Anglo-Zionist. I don’t have a grudge against Anglos whatever it may mean nor can I be anti-Zionist, that would be suicide.
I care for Russia and even for Germany, ( though it took me a long time to find a peaceful attitude towards Germany) You can’t deny me the right to live, We can’t live in Europe as a free nation, we need our homeland. Now, what about Palestinians ? They just don’t agree to share this territory with Jewish State. They have 20+ other arabic countries, yet they want to exterminate Israel. Israel 70 years ago was hardly populated at all, today it is more or less developed country. We build it, the Jews.
Anyway I think it is a bit funny and Orwellian, that you are calling today Germany as a Z-Germany and some ultra leftist Israelis calling Israel Fascist Israel. Those words unfortunately lose their initial meaning, may be this is conspiracy from the Empire , Idk. lol But this is the ugly matter of facts.
You can’t deny that you are deep deep below antisemite after this quote.
USA is the Zionist’s current muppet tool, like Germany was until 1917, when they decided to migrate into a new snail’s house and decided to ditch Germany one and forever.
I don’t care much about Germany, I don’t care about USA. I don’t care about Russia.
Well, I do care to some extent, but let us leave alone.
Also, I was called Soviet occupant right when USSR collapsed, I was striped off Latvian citizenship, my birthplace and for 3 generations it was my home country. USSR collapsed, where could i go ? I’m not Russian, Latvia didn’t gave me citizenship, so I went to Israel. ( there are still about 200.000 non-citizen mostly russian speaking residents after 25 years).
Just leave us , and me personally alone. You are spreading dangerous type of antisemitism.
Wow,I’m actually very glad to see this comment. It shows “exactly” the zionist thinking. And the problem with it. No one (at least no sane people) deny Jews a “right to live”. What they do deny, is zionists a right to “take” a land from another people and claim it as their own. Most European Jews have little if any ancestry from the ancient Hebrew people, that 2000 plus, years ago lived in Palestine. While on the other hand a great many,probably the majority of today’s Palestinian Arabs are directly descended from those people. As a prime example we will take one of Israels most infamous zionists,Ariel Sharon. Like you from a family from the ex-USSR by the name of “Scheinerman”,a name of Germanic origin on his father’s side. While his mother,who I believe under Jewish religious law,determine’s the ethnicity of the child. Was from a family of Christian converts to Judaism of Slavic origin. Cases like that are numerous throughout the zionist community.
You seem to think Jews can’t live outside Palestine (Israel to you). And yet for probably 3000 years they have done just that. Before the fall of Jerusalem after the revolt against Rome. Around a third of all people following Judaism (maybe more) lived outside Palestine.And ever since most of Judaism’s followers have lived outside that land. As I believe the Holy Books even forbid them to live there until the “Messiah” was to come. Interesting how zionists use Judaism as a claim for Palestine,yet seem to overlook that fact.As of today in the US alone almost as many Jews live there as in Palestine.And millions of Jews live in other nations.
You argue about Palestinians not wanting to live with your zionists. And that they could go somewhere else, is very similar to that of a bugler, entering your home,stealing your home. Confining you and your family to one room in their home. Then telling them if they don’t agree to that, leave their age old home and live in their relatives house in another land. You say 70 years ago Palestine was hardly populated at all. And yet it was populated by 67% Arab Palestinians. And only 1/3rd Jewish (most of them recent immigrants ).
You say you were Latvian-Jewish at the time of the Soviet collapse. But were stripped of Latvian citizenship. If you were born in another Republic of the USSR you could have taken citizenship there. Russia,Belarus,or Ukraine,was far closer and more culturally familiar than moving to the Middle East to become “an occupant” there. Was it maybe that you thought as many Jews who deserted the ex-USSR that you could do better personally in Palestine than if you stayed in your homelands. I find an excuse of not being allowed to stay in Latvia as a “self-serving” tale.
You don’t know how really Baltic states acquired independence and in what kind of a limbo many many Russian speaking naturally born there people were left.
Soviet Union collapsed, Latvian nazis shouted at me get fuck out to Israel.
So I went.
You don’t know much history. Real people life experience.
Actually I do know how they broke away from the USSR. I also know the Latvian nazis are a vile bunch. But I also know that going to Israel was not the only choice you had. So please don’t try and tell me it was.
I wouldn’t deny that I don’t exactly feel at home in the Middle East, but there is a lot of antisemitism.
I wouldn’t take it lightly when ex nazi Latvians telling me get out, knowing that they or Germans killed almost all my family in Riga during ww2.
My grandfather and grandmother escaped to Russia, but all their families were killed there.
So, after the war, they get back to Latvia and married for the second time, they were previously non related. At the age 40+ they could give birth to one more child, my mother. We all grew up in Latvia.
Actually, I even have a little of Latvian and German blood. But it is not related. I can feel safe from antisemites only in Israel. Partly because all of the multi century hate that people on the site like this spreading against Jews.
I try not to debate the mass murders of Jews during WW2. I consider it one of the most monstrous crimes of the 20th Century. Not alone because of numbers. Several other crimes had those and higher numbers. But because of the nazi desire to annihilate an entire group of people. But I do want to mention that in the USSR alone 22-27 million people (the actual figure is disputed) died in that war. Of which possibly 2 million of them were Jewish. The vast majority were Slavs killed by the nazis. As to Palestine ,I can’t really understand wanting to go to a land that didn’t want you. To settle in a region of constant never ending war. It would seem to me that that is not a way to be safe. And then to choose .as Israel has. to construct a system that in many ways parallels the fascist system that oppressed them. Is also beyond by reasoning.If you think you are safe among people like this https://www.rt.com/news/345111-israel-jewish-arsonist-released/. Terrorists committing crimes in your name. Then I also don’t understand that thinking.
To say this as a communist indicates how hopeless the situation has become here in (not only) Germany and all over Europe.
Dear Martin, remain communist. Alas, it is almost hopeless nowadays, but as far as I can understand your soul, it is more fitting you.
Frankly, I’m starting to think that we are really now hitting Malthusian scenario. There are just too many people.
The immigration tide from Middle East and Africa is very hard to stop. Europe is dying, in the sense of losing the steam of Gothic civilization (mostly German). Russian civilization unfortunately also broke, it couldn’t survive bloody 20-th century. Read Spengler, but think about Marx , may be in some future :)
I’m afraid the talented young German answering these questions is mistaken in assuming Merkel is just forced into her policy. I have studied the actions of that woman and to me at least she does what she does because she is preparing her own globalist legacy. She is totally owned and brainwashed into thinking that this is what she needs to do. There is no struggle, there is no doubt in her actions.
Germans will only be able to move forward and free themselves from the empire across the Atlantic if they purge their politically controlled globalist elites in Berlin. For that to happen a new party like AfD needs to rise through the ranks and it needs to ensure that its members are not being co-opted by Americans again.
@Scott and C.:
I still cannot believe what you wrote:
“””””See, Here’s Germany’s Plan For The European Defense Union
The European Army as designed by Germany, France and Russia will be instrumental in squeezing NATO out of Europe and liberating Germany from American occupation.”””””
Wrong guess!
Read your own link:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/14/heres-germanys-plan-for-the-european-defense-union/
“””””“Rarely has the German military faced higher demands than in the last few months,” von der Leyen said, referring to Germany’s migrant influx and Russian aggression. “””””
Q: Does this sound as if they want to get NATO out?
Or to contain / invade? Russia …?
If anything then it is an attempt by Berlin and Brussels to keep the EU from breaking apart (by brute force).
Maybe the secret EU police EuroGendFor ( https://www.google.de/search?q=eurogendfor&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=Acg9V-_JIcewswGKop7QBA ) that was originally designed for this (to shoot down citizens if there are Anti-EU protests, such as in Greece) is too small and too weak, given the rising potential unrest and never anticipated huge influx of migrants:
Look at the Macedonian border how peaceful and humbly helpless our new brothers and sisters are (Video how they are blocking an international railway line and use a freight coach as weapon, in another one they have a camp-brothel) :
http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article155475825/Fluechtlinge-setzen-Eisenbahnwaggon-als-Rammbock-ein.html
In Austria and Germany you hear daily about cases where foreigners are not only stealling, robbing, looting but more and more often attacking and sexually assaulting women and young boys. But even more: The number of incidents is rising whe they beat to death, kick to death or stab to death Germans or simply Christian co-migrants inside their camps. Sometimes even randomly. Of course: According to MSM it never has anything to do with anything.
To read about those cases it is necessary to visit alternative “populist” “conspiracy theorists” “righ-wing” news sites, such as http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/deutschland/redaktion/aktuelle-weltnachrichten-vom-mai-2-16-kw-2-.html
Back to “Yalta-2.0” and “NATO leaves Europe”:
EU seen on track to extend economic sanctions on Russia: sources
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-eu-russia-idUSKCN0YA134?il=0
31 minutes ago
NATO, Montenegro to sign key accession accord
By Slobodan Lekic
Stars and Stripes
Published: May 19, 2016
http://www.stripes.com/news/nato-montenegro-to-sign-key-accession-accord-1.410353
Bulgaria’s Govt Backs Montenegro Accession to NATO
Politics » DEFENSE | May 17, 2016, Tuesday // 17:28|
– See more at: http://www.novinite.com/articles/174515/Bulgaria's+Govt+Backs+Montenegro+Accession+to+NATO#sthash.ZeQeHf1J.dpuf
http://www.novinite.com/articles/174515/Bulgaria's+Govt+Backs+Montenegro+Accession+to+NATO
Late to the party, as it seems, I‘ll try to offer another view of the German enigma.
BroAnon, you seem to think that what is amiss among Germans or/and among others who ponder the „German question” is HOPE – the hope „to get things done“. One should not kill it before trying… but what? Trying to hope? Or trying to get things done? And if the latter, which things? Putin is hoping, too, that a German knight (or a knightess, even one from the „Hitler” family) on a white horse will one day gallop into Moscow like Martin Rust in 1987 and include poor old little Putin into a Holy German Union of Great White German Knightesses with murky eastern undermenshens… natives… I think that for hope to be a useful driving force a something, a „wish“ or a „plan“ would be needed, which then you could hope to push through, to fulfill. What is hope good for, if there isn‘t any content to it? What according to you is or could be or should be the hope of the Germans or Germany right now? Tell us – because we don‘t know.
This ignorance of Germany‘s stance or goals seems to be widespread. E.g. George Friedman, as quoted by Valjean72, in 2015 knows about everything (e.g. that „the primordial interest of the Unites States over which we for centuries [how many, exactly?] have fought wars, the first second and cold war has been the relationship between Germany and Russia“) except one thing, namely: „We don’t have the answer is what will Germany do. The real wild card in Europe is that (…) we don’t know the German position…
S113 paints a landscape (compatible with http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/26/neo-us-is-entering-the-panic-mode/) reaching from Shrimpton‘s subterranean Dachau to Admiral Byrd‘s and Patriarch Kyrill‘s Antarctica and populated by visible friendly bavarian Rottweilers and invisible subterranean DVD- aka SS- aka SJ-agents where „the Germans may have created a cloak of invisibility for themselves to dodge the CIA [and everybody else]. By promoting russophobia and Putinaphobia, they deflect attention. And then this large, friendly Bavarian Rottweiler routine would satisfy the CIA monitors that everything is correct, Germany is cooperating, and is no threat at all. What if this is actually a coordinated, organised, sophisticated, cohesive campaign. I believe the Germans could pull somthing like that off. That to me would be typical German behaviour. So if true, this means someone is orchestrating this who is very familiar with KGB and with CIA practices…“
This all sounds possible but is still no answer what Germany, according to its friends and/or foes, is up to, like a question mark wrappped into a roll of used toilet paper. Our whole country is a secret to itself – we deeply and loudly regret „our“ crimes committed against the Jews – but never ever our crimes committed against ourselves, that is by certain Germans against certain other Germans, from before 1933 until now. Goals, which one could then „hope“ to accomplish, are usually thought of, formulated, pronounced and spread by those „independent thinkers“ who, according to the „Program of the Naughty Ones of Sitten/Switzerland“ [Jesuits] of 1897″are „our“ only real enemies, which therefore „must” be stamped out. And therefore do not exist anymore in post-„Hitler“, post-Kohl, „Merkel“land So, no (public) common goals are (publicly) formulated and published anymore. No goals can be a nucleus for a national movement. Then, no national movement can ever become victorious against all odds, so that we have no use for what others call „hope“.
In other words, political repression is one reason why no „progressive“ movement of any sort will ever come into being (not to speak of coming into power) in Germany. Instead of having our ideas or hopes, we repeat what we are told. Yes, we are brainwashed by „them“, but „they“ are brainwashed, too. When „they“ expect „us“ to join the Russians as soon as we can, „they“, their all knowing experts, are even more brainwashed than our populace: they invent a scarecrow, then fear it and prepare their defense against it. Nations seem to love to have delusional ideas, always the same, which gives them the security to „now“ know what to do: the Americans – to get armed for self-defense, then do it to them before they do it to us, the Germans, whose eternal fate it is to be oppressed by unknown overwhelming powers, to suffer silently and „make the best out of it“ (to prosper in spite of oh so much misery around us, to profit during and from the misery of others). When occupants occupy us – we make the best out of it, when immigrants immigrate us – we make the best out of it. We are always poor (!) and helpless – but make the best of it. Now, should a terrible fate coerce us to fight with or against the Russkies, there will be no hope we can avoid this plight – but we‘ll surely find a way to make the best out of it.
In other words: when TheSaker prognosticates that the whole mess in Europe will lead to a revolution, and that it will start in France, he assumes that the French have a certain national character which includes or defines or produces a typical behaviour: „When things become unbearable, we must and will destroy them!“ – and the question, „what are the Germans up to“, or „what do they want right now“ is really the question, what national character, if any, the Germans have, and what behaviour and which goals they will therefore produce, whether they speak about them or not. BroAnon‘s „real revolutions are revolutions in consciousness“ seems to fit the French pattern: „Until yesterday we could still stand things, but now, after the last eventss, it has become clear to us (our consciousness of our environment changed) that things will become worse unless we counter-act.“ But character changes do not seem possible, since character is the essence of personality. Some saints arrive at it after decades in the desert – but Germans are not saints and need misery around them to prosper… and to feel superior in an oppressive world where otherwise we have so many reasons to feel inferior.
Under that perspective of the nations‘ preonceived ideas an alliance of real German „radfahrers“ („cyclists“, people with a stoop upwards, kicking downwards) with Russia is excluded per se: we love and need them to look down on them – a s occupied populace in WW II, or as „poor victims of a terrible system“ in 199x, or as „terrible evildoers” since Maidan, but as a superpower looking for a friend, a partner? We know what to do with an inferior occupied rebellous populace (s. WW II), and we know how to behave as a nice kid in the presene of our mighty lovely uncle from beyond the sea… but beccoming friends with a bunch of natives who just found a new trick how to look great to naive onlookers??? Is that what we want? Definitely not. And what do we want? We don‘t know… probably most that things continue as before: that someone else runs the show and we may profit from it.
I said „real Germans“ to make a difference between those who are more or less „Germanic“ and those who are more or less Slavic, the natives of the land between Elbe and Oder, the former GDR. As Slavs they are happy to meet others and talk, they are ready to have and pronounce ideas (good and idiotic ones and everything inbetween), and perhaps to fight for them, but not beyond points of no return. They are realistic, and so act in reality much more upon reality than upon preconceived ideas. That regularily produces „turn-arounds“, like from the Soviet war/hate propaganda against nazi Germany in 1945 to Stalin‘s genuine peace offer in 1952: „the bad past cannot be undone, so let‘s begin a better future today“. The west german cowards, who never forget and never forgive anyone anything (but never say a word about it, obviously), did not believe the offer to be genuine because they would never make one like that to anyone. Putin is dead wrong when he thinks „Germans“ are as nice as the people he had contact with in the GDR, and he is dead wrong when he thinks that being nice first will necessarily be rewarded by the other side. The only good partnership the Russian and the German state had was during the time after Napoleon, and under the chancellorship of Bismarck, a typical Northern Serb. In both cases the „German“ partners were Prussians, half or full Slavs, with whom the Russians have a common language of character.
In the end, the character of a nation (of the majority of people and/or the government) is not just an interesting topic and a direction in which things will probably develop, thus a prognostic element, but also a severely limiting factor. Sloba Milosevic said about the EU created new failed state of Bosnia-Hercegowina (BiH): „The Roman emperor Tiberius made his horse First Consul of Rome, yes, but the horse never started to work in that function.“ The aa/z pundits found out that with the EU getting weaker every day and Germany having become the only strong ox on the farm, this ox „will definitely start to head an army against us.“ No, it waits for new orders. In case they‘ll come from Antarctica, Germany will probably try to make the best out of it.
Wow! In wonder how it is possible to think and write like that.
As for the content it makes a lot of sense.
I cannot say it often enough: Russians, forget the damn Germans (not all individuals, but the majority, especially the ruling class)! They aren’t worth your fairness, patience, forgiveness nor your love.
Thank you, Martin, I appreciate your appreciation.
You seemed like a dogmatic to me, but some days ago I happened to look into the article on the murder of Mozgovoj‘s again, and I was touched by your sad summing up: for years I you waited in vain for people sharing your views. Yes, it‘s a lonely life in Germany, and even if we meet at places like TheSaker‘s, where the majority of commenters are thinking „in the same direction“, there remain enough differences (or lack of information, of understanding due to different life experiences in different environments) to still feel lonely. But we all learn from each other, even if it takes time to sink through….
Thanks for your words, comrade.
Well – now imagine how lonely I felt in western Ukraine when I still had no clue and wanted to migrate _there_. I had two almost wives (with University degrees, 1st Engineer, 2nd Economist).
At the time I told everybody I met there that I love the Soviet Union – and Ukrainians because they are like reallllll Russians, only less remote from Berlin and easier to reach (no Visa necessary for me as EU citizen).
No, back then they were only “reserved” and we had vibrant discussions.
I don’t want to imagine what they would do to me _now_.
On facebook they already thretened to kill me back then, in the group “I love Ukraine”.
Well – screwed up country, screwed up life.
I need some new 5-years plan :)
As said, PMR, Tiraspol.
However – finaces are bugging me. At the moment I can’t go anywhere.
FYI: I bet neither Scott nor Saker or most other want to hear it.
I post these notes only as a transcript of a discussion I had here in Berlin just 2 hours ago. Similar things happened before when I talked to some of the several tens of thousands of other former Russians (and people from other Soviet Republics) living in my immediate neighborhood.
Today I had to make a rare exception and went out during daytime (because I have trouble with bills and my bank loans).
When I returned I met my new letter delivery agent and he greeted another resident (elderly lady) of my apartment block with Здравствуй! This prompted me to ask him why he lives in that damn country “germany” and we ended up in talking 30 minutes about everything from Stalin to Putin.
He originally came from Perm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perm 30 years ago when he and his wife met. He is a scientist and his wife was then a young East-german student girl lerning Russian and visiting the Soviet Union in that context.
When I told him that I want to migrate to Russia he asked me if I lost my mind. He described the current living conditions for average citizens as _highly_ difficult and toxic. I asked him what he is talking about. And if he fell into the trap to believe flat western Anti-Putin propaganda. I asked: What clue do you have, have you ever been there in the past 30 years?? He said in a friendly but decisive manner: YES. He visits his relatives twice per year and still has regular contacts. But, as he said, most of his old friends have already died (he is not old, I guess 50 at most). According to his warnings “a mafia regime” is running the country. And folks live in big danger. I asked why, what, how? He said, not only are there many cases of cancer and HIV Aids, but also – physical fights from above (what he calls mafia structures), or even with other residents. He asked me: Do you want to live among civilized people, or among the wild?
He also said his relatives urge him to stay quitet and not to speak up, because allgedly they are afraid.
According to him one has to work 16 hours per day and yet still cannot pay the bills. That’s why many get ill and die prematurely (if they haven’t been killed in street fights already, by a knife).
I only post this to show that not everything is nice and well in Russia.
It’s simply not true.
I responded to that man that the West is a million times worse.
And that only communism was a solution (he also denied that).
According to him everything related to “modern civilization” is exploited by thieves and criminals.
In his view the only escape would be to migrate to some remote aborigines tribes which live mutually embedded into nature, such as in remote parts of Asia or South-America.
Probably this man isn’t informed well enough about wetsern crimes.
But I think his grass-roots impression should at least be hear (with some salt).
Russia is not a worker’s paradise anymore.
Simply not true.
At the end he stated, he would love to return to Russia.
But for small people it is simply not possible financially.
He resignated and says: Fighting makes no sense, neither aginst the west, nor against capitalism, neither inside germany nor inside Russia.
His “solution” (with which I fully disagree!): Work around the problems, pay all bills and keep the mouth shut.
Well, now we are back at my hopelessness being even bigger than yesterday
:(:(:(
@ Martin from Soviet East-Berlin:
^ Thanks for that post, Martin :)
Whether if what that guy told you it’s 100% true or not, I have no way of telling, but one thing is for sure: I’d wish we had more Russian posters on here [even if their English is not perfect], posting directly from Russia itself letting us know not only their thoughts, but the real situation on the ground.
I was in contact [online] with a Russian [25 or so years old one] from Moscow. I was so eager to learn about how things are over there, I asked him about his thoughts and this is what I’ve got from him; University Educated, good-ish job, yet he was still living with his parents and siblings in a fairly small apartment. Hence: unable to afford a place of his own because most of his income went to pay for his car and his smart-phone charges.
On Putin; he laughed at the notion that the ‘West’ considers him a “dictator” (I’ve inform him about that), and he said most Russians, and I quote – think: he’s a thug. (At that point I feared to push the point further, to tell you the truth)
The other random thing he complained about; was that he was sick and tired of seeing churches being build everywhere. Again, I quote him: “Churches, churches, churches! Everywhere!”
Another Russian – this time a girl – I’ve also briefly befriended online. But this time, I’ve noticed a pattern; Russians are more keen to learn about things going on outside Russia, rather than telling you about what’s happening in Russia.
I remember telling her how glad I was they’ve got Crimea back, and she agreed, but then she went into the subject that she has relatives in Ukraine, and the whole West Ukraine vs. East Ukraine conflict upset her [understandably, I thought], and she didn’t want to talk about the subject any further… because and I quote: it depressed her.
Fair enough… two people can’t represent the feeling of a whole nation, but we do need more ordinary Russian people reporting directly from Russia, so we can all have a better understanding of the whole picture.
-TL2Q
TL2Q, brother.
tnx!
I respond tomorrow.
Churches: Yes, during my time when I wanted to migrate to western Ukraine (2 almost wives [with University grades]) I noticed the same there. Nobody has had money for life, but the Church was wasting money like nothing and built Churches out of gold, all across the country. And this was 5 to 10 years ago …
A very fatalistic response. Merkel is not a half Serb Anonymous? Are only South Germans, true Germanic people and are they more likely to accept Atlanticist control? Your reasoning is flawed, you combine racial theories with geopolitics and place it out of historical context so it makes sense to you.
I hope Germany will figure out a way to ‘make the best out of it’ by the time nuclear warheads start flying towards it. Each time the territory of Germany grew slightly smaller after one of those ‘west/east’ conflicts, makes one wonder where it will be after the next conflict.
All the while Switzerland and Austria, the two non Slavic Germans as you would probably call them, remain.
Genes are a reality, not “racism”.
slavic genes
https://www.google.de/search?q=slavic+genes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=ue8-V_bQHMyEgAbMqYSoAg
http://slovio.com/slavic-gene/index.html
http://slovio.com/slavic-gene/R1A_map_1.JPG
http://slovio.com/slavic-gene/R1a_map.JPG
The lands between Ellbe and Oder are “special” for two different reasons:
A) These are traditionally old Slavonic lands, the Geramns came only 1000 and less years ago and Slavs versus Germans interbreeded. The names (of persons but also settlements and rivers, lakes) are clear proof for this until today.
B) East-Germans lived under ideal Soviet conditions for 45 years.
This changed their thinking (for the better).
@Alexander P.:
What what it is worth:
> All the while Switzerland and Austria, the two non Slavic Germans as
> you would probably call them, remain.
The last time I was in Switzerland it was still a 3-language (actually at least 4-language) multi-ethnicities- federal republic, rather than a homogenous “german” country:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#/media/File:Karte_Schweizer_Sprachgebiete_2015.png
As for lost territories, are you sure Austria KK didn’t lose any areas through the dicates of Saint-Germain (Austria) and Trianon(Hungary), what about South-Tirol and Sudetenland for example?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertrag_von_Saint-Germain#/media/File:%C3%96sterreich-Ungarns_Ende.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Saint-Germain-en-Laye_%281919%29
{ouch, apologies for the spelling errors, damn unsharp right eye}
If it makes you feel better: According to the following hypothesis, Bavaria was also a Slav region before being inhabitated by Germanic tribes:
http://slovio.com/origin/index.html
“””””peculations and facts.
Much has been speculated over the years about the Slavs and their orginin. Problem is that the facts have been often intentionally turned on their heads by various German-speaking ‘historians’, whose purpose was to ‘prove’ their own ‘superiority’ and inferiority of everybody else.
Historical documents and linguistic studies prove that Slavs are the direct descendants of the Veneti, the founders of Venice, Viena, and the people who have created the amber route and dominated the amber trade for over a thousand years. Historically they are also known as Enetoi and have inhabited the entire region of Balkans, north of Greece, Northern Itally, Hungary, Romania, Austria, Bavaria, Northern Switzerland, Czech and Slovak Repulics Poland and central Germany all the way to today’s Hamburg. The Slavs have inhabited this region since about 1500 B.C., and inhabit about 75 percent of that region to this day. From this core area they have spread eastwards to Belarus, Ukraine and Russia. Other Venetic Slavs have migrated westwards to central Italy, where they have been known as the Etruskans, the founders of Rome.
Around the 4th century A.D. started so called migrations of nations, which have been triggered by the desertification of the areas between the Aral sea and Mongolia. This climatic catastrophy had triggered off several waves of migrations of the nomadic Turkic peoples.
At different times, in different centuries, several waves of invasions of the migrating Turkic nomads have invaded today’s Germany, Estonia, Hungary, Finland, Bulgaria and Turkey. In some areas they have been assimilated by the local population or have at least partly adapted the local Venetic-Slavic languages. In other areas, such as Hungary, Turkey and Finland, their languages have prevailed. [… much more follows on that page]”””””
The lines among “germans” versus “slavs” are floating by no means such a clear border as people like Hitler wanted to make the world believe due to his racial superiority brainshit.
I’m proud to have Slavic genes (and btw also a slavic family name). And that shouldn’t be a problem, as long as this doesn’t turn me into a racist zomby like those over in borderland:
1,000s of Ukraine nationalists vow to oust Poroshenko administration over Donbass elections (PHOTOS)
https://www.rt.com/news/343756-ukraine-nationalists-kiev-parliament/
I would rather agree with this quite insightful comment on the basis of my 8 years of living in Dreiecke, in the German corner. Unfortunately, the German character is characterized by what I see as as a kind of sadomasochism, and what is above descirbed as ‘making the best of oppression’. For Germans – I have such feeling – draw their dignity, being a nation of enginners in their own eyes – of devoting their pride to their tools only. Thsi superioriyt feeling gives rise to always present feeling of superiority, abroad commonly known as ‘German arrogance’: an exampel I always give to explain this points is some dicussion in SWR2 radio, when German talking heads were discusising how much we need and love Europa, only to brazenly say soemthing like ‘We have Euroopean Union just so German tanks would never again roll towards Paris’. Now, this is a pride of an enginner, who knows that IF ONLY SUCH WAS HIS WISH, he would just build a new Tiger 2017 tank which in 2 days would get straight to Lisbon. This proud German talker somehow did not even take into account that French could mount any significant resistance, even though de Gaulle was supposed to have located a string of French atom power plants suspicously near French-German border as a kind of stationary bombs: surely, where I live Fessenheim AKW fulfills its role of at least ‘attention bomb’ for Germans, who surely are much more under its moribund spell than the French and like to talk about it, in contrary to foreigners. Generally, such shock, raiding on the ‘awe’ wave of German engineering, is generally at the foudnations of German lobby in Polish politics, too (sorry Saker, that I speak about ‘German lobby’ but I took notice taht you do dislike Poland and have never ever said one good thing about my country) -for that reason I call it ‘The party of Mercedes’, as it worships German industry; the said party, by teh way, being not very intelligent and very postcolonial in its methods .By the way, Saker, if to a great extedn correct in his analysis of France itself, totally underestiamtes that the French really do not like Germans, generally being envious and cherishing feeling that Germany has somehow usurped the place of France in Europe: for that very and simple reason a French cannot accept a strong Germayn even if he has nothing against strong Russia. The only pro-German significant nation of Europe might be Italians, sharing the same unfortunate history of too late nationalism and fulfilling German ‘Kultur’ with the lacking component of finesse, at least finesse in the German eye…. Generally, and starngely, Europe still goes accoridng to old historical sympathies and antypathies, and Saker line is just one example – of repeating Bismarck hopes and errors. As it was correctyl noted in a previosu comment, for a German here there would be ‘something’ humiliating in alliance with Russia: the buoyance of German lust after ‘Kultur’ and ‘finesse’ strongly prefers the way of Wihelm II and early Adolf H, running after his wet dream of world alliance with that noble Albion (BTW, if anyone reads Polish, I strongly recommend ‘Londyniszcze’ as critcial veiw of England from the pen of one of teh best of Polish politcial essayist, Stanislaw Mackiewicz.). It is possible that some German industrialist hope for German-Russian allaince, but the popular German mind is not captiavted by a ‘Russian barbarian’ and strongly prefers ‘Kultur’ and ‘finesse’ of the West, not even speaking about sun and heat of the West (every spring, with the first stronger sunlight, I am shocked that crowds of half-naked Germans, almost like worms after rain, try to sunbathe in every possible place).On teh last note, teh idea just struck me taht German love for Italy may be a variation of ‘a foe of a foe is a friend’ ,a love towards weaker opponent of their enemy, France, exactly in teh way the things are played bewteen UK (Germany), Poland (Italy), and Russia (France). Unfortaunetely, Germand do not cherisch teh same attitude towards Poland, seeing it as obstacle on teh way to Eurasia. And, yes, for Italians, France is still ‘sorella ladrona’.
Dear Polish on the French-German border on May 21, 2016 · at 12:48 am UTC ,
it is nice that some lonely good polish soul finds its way to a pro-Russian blog site. Exceptions confirm the rule. But I certainly won’t need to tell you that you _are_ a rare exception – different from most of your fellow countrymen.
I often traveled to all (!) parts of Poland from 1985 on. At first in the context of familiy holidays when we with our small East-german 26 PS (!) 2-cylinder 2-tact car “Trabant 601” crossed Poland all the way to the Soviet border, which was a complete excitement for me. Of course we couldn’t go further, but being near the Soviet Union – well, did that feel cool.
Later I returned to Poland countless times in my haunt for taking high quality pictures of Poland’s last real steam locomotives until 1992.
I loved the real Poland very much. With real Poland I mean the original one, communist Poland. Before the EU money tuned it into a Disnayland circus.
I don’t speak much Polish (only detect many words and the numbers from what I learned by teaching myself Russian). But over time, during my 70 or so travels, it became 100% visible to me how much Poles hate Russia, hate the Soviet Union, hate Stalin, hate themselves, but love and hate the germans.
They don’t in their wildest dreams ever consider, that without the Red Army there would not be any Poland today, other than maybe some “Warthegau” or Reichsgau-Osten”.
They also do not thank Stalin for the humble gift (1/3 of the old Germany was granted to Poalnd in 1945, my ancestors also got “removed” and expelled by force).
The Poles always prefer cherry-picking.
The last I heard was that they want Lwow and if possible all of western Ukraine all the way to the Dniepr, back to their short-time anti-Russian war front line of 1920.
(While they certainly don’t consider the front line of 1921).
As said: The Poles always only want what pleases their wet dreams. Like a 16 years old Diva.
They present themselves as the eternal victim, completely innocent and noble. Only the evil evil Russians are preventing them from happiness. Meanwhile they completely forgot what Germany has done to them, and they see Germany and 100 times more so Uncle Sam as their genuine big brothers.
While always presenting themselves as the poor innocent alltime victim they never mention their own past as an evil bloodsucking Empire:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_Commonwealth
nor ever mention that they had been governed by a Polish racist Nazi during the time between WW1 and WW2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski
Now, please let me know how anybody, be it The Saker, myself or anybody else, shall find good words for a country like Poland for which there simply aren’t any good words. Do you want us lying some nice compliments in your ears?
Nobody denies that there are also good people on a individual level.
But the majority of Poles and the governments they use to elect (as we just recetly saw again) behave much more like evil Germans, than like real Slavs (although they are Slavs genetically).
Here we see again, that while having some influence, genes don’t mean everything. Poand acts as one of the main traitors of the Panslavic idea, maybe on a level similar to the Croats. Forgive me my words: Shame on Poland.
Pan-Slavism in Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Slavism#Pan-Slavism_in_Poland
“””””Although early Pan-Slavism had found interest among some Poles, it soon lost its appeal as the movement became dominated by Russia, and while Russian Pan-Slavists spoke of liberation of other Slavs through Russian actions, parts of Poland had been ruled by the Russian Empire since the Partitions of Poland. Historically, Poland often saw itself in partnership with non-Slavic nations most of the time, such as Hungary (see the phrase “Pole and Hungarian cousins be”), Saxony, Sweden or Lithuania under the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth from 1569 to 1795. Especially after 1795, Revolutionary and Napoleonic France was esteemed by most Poles at that time as the best champion for the reconstitution of their country as it was a mutual enemy of Austria, Prussia and Russia. The influence of 19th century Pan-Slavism had little impact in Poland except for creating sympathy towards the other oppressed Slavic nations to regaining independence. At the same time while Pan-Slavism worked against Austro-Hungary with South Slavs, Poles enjoyed a wide autonomy within the state and assumed a loyalist position as they were able to develop their national culture and preserve Polish language, something under threat in both German and Russian Empires. A Pan-Slavic federation was proposed, but on the condition that the Russian Empire would be excluded from such an entity. After Poland regained its independence (from Germany, Austria and Russia) in 1918 no major or minor force considered Pan-Slavism as a serious alternative, viewing Pan-Slavism as little more than a code word for Russification. During Poland’s communist era the USSR used Pan-Slavism as propaganda tool to justify its control over the country. The issue of the Pan-Slavism was not part of the mainstream political agenda, and is widely seen as an ideology of Russian imperialism.
Joseph Conrad in Notes on Life and Letters.:
“…between Polonism and Slavonism there is not so much hatred as a complete and ineradicable incompatibility.” …Conrad argues that “nothing is more foreign than what in the literary world is called Slavonism to his individual sensibility and the whole Polish mentality”[14]
Although Poland is a member of the Visegrád Group, which although is not Pan-Slavic as it includes one non-Slavic nation, but promotes co-operations among former Eastern Bloc Central European countries. It could be considered simultaneously a platform that promotes fraternity and integration among the West Slavs, who share a common, Central European culture and history, and having similar development. All four Visegrád members are also member of the Central European Initiative.”””””
Now let’s have a look at the map of Lithuania-Poland, they had not only occupied RUS lands from all of Baltics, BelaRus to all of what is now Western Ukraine all the way to Crimea, no, they even occupied large parts of what now rightfully belongs back to Russia again and at the time had almost sucked in Moscow into their empire:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/The_density_of_the_urban_network_per_voivodeship_of_Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_Commonwealth_ca._1650_%28Eng%29.png
Now, it must be a joke if you expect any Russian patriot to send some chocolate-flowers to Poland.
Nevertheless: Normal Russians – as innocent and way too forgiving and West-loving as they are – do not hate Poland or Poles aka Poljaki. I noticed that in 2009 while being in the train Kaliningrad-Berlin together with an elderly Russian couple in the same sleeper’s cabin. I could try what I wanted, but they as Russians defended Poland, the Baltics and also Ukraine. They said “we respect those people very much, it ,ust be difficult to move through all these changes and to learn new old languages out of a sudden”. They did not want to hear a single bad word about the named countries. Now, imagine the situation would have been vice versa (polish couple talking about Russia).
Now, that’s why Poalnd doesn’t deserve any love.
Don’t deserve means exactly that.
Cheers from Soviet East-Berlin!
The Polish probelm with Pan-slavism is following:
1) it is a bit like EU: it seems to be universal, but is in fact German. Pan-slavism seems to be slavic, but is Russian.
2) why should we be Panslavs when we did have such a nice Coomonwelath? The Commonwelath was, in practice, a kind of pan-slavic state. Salvs were rulling – not Germans, not Turks, not Romanians (Moldavains: Moldavia was Polish-Ottoman condominium), not even Jews, even though all of them were citizens.
3) Panslavism is seen as ideology forged by Russia to advance Russian interest in Balkans agianst Ottomans. That those Russian interests could be brought togehtehr with the interest of South Slavic nations does not remove an element of Russian interests from Panslavism.
@Polak…
May I return the compliment of a „quite insightful“ comment. Indeed, for myself I use the formula of Germans (as typical engineers) always caring for and knowing HOW to accomplish something, but never touching the question, WHAT to do, including the painful decision whether doing what is necessary/good/noble – or what has been commanded from above/is the thing to do since everybody else does it, too.
I am not su sure about our friends or enemies. Italy was a big fad in the fifties (only our air-cooled Volkswagen made it across the Brenner without stop), it plays no role in our fantasy now. We were great friends with Greece before they stole all our money… We were great friends with Yugoslavia and they with us, before they made it necessary to declare our first post-war war in 1999: why can‘t they behave… Kohl promised the Russkies our eternal friendship and love in return for the wonder of reunification… but with their inhumane treatment of Pussy Riot this had to end…. My own experience with the French is only positive: they did have reserves about Germany, but much less than I. Obviously, everybody started years ago to remember what they sweared „never to forget“ in 1945, and then tried to forget for the sake of everlasting mutual friendship…. Russia offers us friendship since 1952 which brings us into the role of a capricious lady who always answers „I might give it a thought if only you would first…“ Yes, Poland is only a malicious obstacle on our march towards Glory and World Dominion, but with that you are in good company.
„Londyniszcze“ seems not so easy to find in Berlin, Empik in Szczecin or Gorzów may have it or not, and then I might find it too much of Polish at a time to really try it.
Cheers…
Hi Aleksander P, I don’t feel completely understood by you, and the main reason may be that I did not write about myself but about „what Germany is up to”, and what one can expect from Germany if it is „not up to anything in particular”. I feel completely misunderstood when you diagnose that I am suffering from racism, geopolitics and disregard of historical context. If I were to describe my way of getting at my opinions, I would say that I seem to depart from a deck of historical contexts (several historical situations of the same region through several points of history and their political context), I completely disregard the Mackinder-Haushofer kink of „geopolitics“ (although it makes sense in regions where geography=political situation, e.g. for pillage raids of naval throat-cutters like the Normans and the English), and I am convinced that racism, if taken seriously, is total nonsense (i.e. in the form „person A must act in way B and cannot possibly do anything else, because A is of race C“).
We all read that we all are the children of a small group of Africans that made it from Africa via Palestine to Asia – all „races“ of today developed afterwards, and do have a certain reality – just like red hair has a reality and makes a difference e.g. when contacted by people who either like or dislike red hair in others. But I did not speak of races, but of nations or „Stämme“ (phyla, tribes), and in naming them I refer to their record in history, which is shaped by many factors („race“ being just one of them, but most important being the common history, culture, traditions). Normen (men from the north, i.e. from the North land, Norge/Norway) were terrible 1000 years ago, and are nice folks today… except for relapses like the Normen‘s parliament giving Obama the „nobel prize for peace“ for encouraging him to become the biggest maneater in the White House so far. A „nation“ usually has a „history“ which is then typical for itself. Yes, the Slavs between Elbe and Oder, and those East of the Oder, and the Russians east of those lived there and *never* tried to conquer or steal or destroy the land west of them, while the other way round it was always the goal of the „Germanic“ nation of „Germany“ (including the „Teutonic order” in Eastern Prussia) to steal the land to the east and make the living things on it disappear one way or another. When „Russia“, together with „Germany“ (i.e. Prussia) and Austria (aka The Holy Roman Empire), made an exception to that rule and partitioned Poland until there was nothing Polish left, the „Russian“ ruler was a German (Sophie von Anhalt-Zerbst), so the „racist“ or „national“ rule was followed that Germans eat Slavs as a matter of course, but not the other way round.
While everybody in Germany finds this normal and defends it, I wondered what was rong with my disagreement with them. In my youth I took inspiration from „good German authors“ who at a closer look were often Jews (e.g. Heine, Kafka, Karl Kraus, Tucholsky), and worldwide the same factor cannot be ignored: there seems to be one (1) honest intellectual left on Earth, and he is again a Jew (Noam Chomsky). The famous rise of German literature and culture in the XIXth c. had much to do with the Jewish literary salons in Berlin, e.g. that of Rahel Levin. I wondered whether my finding inspiration namely with Jew models had a racial foundation within myself („resonating“ to their typical acting as beacons of culture), i.e. hidden genes. I found no answer to that question and forgot it, but I wonder whether you will find it „racist“. Other nations (Russians, French) do have good writers from their own stock, but we Germans do not or much less so. Still in the XXth c. Germany praised itself as „Land der Dichter und Denker“ (land of poets and thinkers), but in my personal life I did not find a single kindred soul interested in self-thinking and self-writing – except, in school, a catholic Jew who turned into an anglozio shpitzel at the first occasion offered to him.
In talking about „Germany“ in English, the difficulty arises that in German „Germanen“ and „Deutsche“ are different words while in English one has to invent ad hoc descriptions („true Germanics“ etc.) for clearly separating different notions. My complete disgust of the „Germans“ (Deutsche) is the result of an already long life among „them“ (not „us“), made incredibly difficult by their never ending spite, and my lessons of history tell me that I do not overinterpret my personal experience: they are really as mean as they are, only today they play a new masquerade, to „be just and democratic“ – yes, Crankshaw: „Gestapo“ already noted how much Germans like to lie by playing fake roles in fancy dresses.
Please, Alexander P., get your facts a bit more realistic. Yes, there are „Germans” in „Germany” north of the Swabs and Bavarians – the whole old F.R.G. was the non-Slavic part of, uh, „Germany” with Hessen around Frankfurt/M (allegedly today’s Hethites from Anatolia), Friesen like in Holland but west of Holland, Angeln and Sachsen south of Danmark etc. As to the „shrinking German territory“ I‘ll better not start to discuss it. Please check that a country „Germany“ existed not earlier than 1871, before there only was the „Roman (!) Empire of the German nation(!)“ (aka „Austria“ and/or Spain“ etc. etc.), and its territory/ies changed all the time. „Die Germanen” (the Germanics) who beat the Romans in 6 AD in the Teutoburger Wald were neither a country, nor a nation, nor a race, but a loose ad hoc federation of some Germanic tribes, who on their way from the Urals to North Africa happened to be just there just then.
The Bavarians seem to think of themselves as former Celts, just like the Czech or some Czech do. So a Celt „race” may be the basis for a Slavic and a Germanic tribe or nation today. I found typical, „folk” music to be a good indicator of relationships, and indeed, Czech Schrammelmusik and Bavarian Volksmusik are very close – just as brandenburgish ballads (Fritze Bollmann, Zickenschulzes Hochzeit) and Polish ballads (Bal u weteranów) – nothing in common with the sweet sentimental German „lieder” that are oh so afraid to mention anyting else but the moon, the stars, the trees, the weather.
Austria is known to be a „completely Slavic nation with German language”, as, I think, Adolf Rotschild-Schickelgruber found with disgust, longing for true Germany north of Austria., Like Turkey and the USA, Austria has ingested so much from everywhere that they are a special case. My mother was disgusted with them, too: „We say, the situation is serious but not hopeless – the Austrians say, the situation is hopeless but not serious.”
„Merkel” is definitely no Northern Serb, no descendant of the western (or northern southern) Slavs which call themselves „Serby“, and the Germans „Wenden” or „Sorben”; many place names east and south east of Berlin are variations of the s-r-b theme. Martin has dug out much material about them. For all I know, „Merkel“ is the daughter of the Rotschild descendant „Hitler” (and knows it) and has therefore been chosen to continue the work of her father which the same aa/z handlers had chosen before for ruining Europe. Yes, she does the same as her father, trying for some time already to start another war against Russia, which is her reason for living, but which she is too stupid to accomplish. I am not a merkologist, but others write that her (alleged) mother, Herlind Jentzsch from Eastern Prussia, was Jewish, which would be a good reason to regard „Merkel” as completely Jewish according to Israelish definition (where „Jewish“ is a religion which is not checked against a DNA test), so that she is entitled to Israeli citizenship and, according to many people on the Internet, is indeed one of the highly problematic dual passport persons. Her alleged father, Kasner, was an alleged evangelical priest (english spitzel) with Polish ancestors. Her probable real father, „Hitler” was partly Jewish (grandson of an adherent of that religion) and partly from the Waldviertel/Austria, famous for incestuous and therefore not too clear sex relations. His mother, Klara, looked as a young woman *exactly* like „Merkel” at the age she was launched into politics (see a great picture gallery somehwere at http://www.evilyoshida.com).
Everybody in Germany seems to puke at „Merkel” by now – but nobody does the slightest little bit for chasing her out, and this is the general German model of „helpless suffering of an overwhelming occupation” as an excuse for doing nothing. This particular occupation by aa/z scum began with the chasing of Bismarck out of office (1890) and the introduction of „allgerman” division plans for Russia (1891, tried in 1914 and again exactly 50 years later, 1941) and the rise of „scientific antisemitism”. Well, we endure it since then, but cannot do anything about it except making the best out of it..
Back to Scott’s and C.’s original subject: Here you can see who really whispers to Merkel what she has to do. No – it is not NATO-out!
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Finfo.kopp-verlag.de%2Fhintergruende%2Fdeutschland%2Fstefan-schubert%2Ffluechtlingskrise-merkels-vordenker-entlarvt-sich-selbst.html&edit-text=
“””””Refugee crisis: Merkel’s mastermind exposes himself
Stefan Schubert
As a spin-doctor to go himself to the public, is unusual. The non-democratically legitimized Strippenzieher shy actually the camera light. The whisperers of Chancellor, Gerald Knaus of the European Stability Initiative (ESI), who drafted the blueprint for the disputed Erdoğan-Merkel deal, it has now pulled before the television cameras of the Phoenix round. This he would have left better. For his appearance was revealing and clarified at the same time, pull which stakeholders in Berlin strings behind the scenes.
Sociologist Gerald Knaus is originally from Austria. But such national appellations find world citizen as he probably already per se racist. A study in Oxford, Brussels and Bologna, then he taught economics at the State University in Ukraine. And of course, lacking even stations for NGOs in Bosnia in such a resume .
Of the EU functionaries he has already paid for his work in Kosovo, as always, may have looked there. And of course can be as a cultured cosmopolitan not just live in a city, but he has his center of life spread across several cities, in this case, Paris and Istanbul. What signifies the common citizen as “real work”, one looks in vain, however in his resume. It gives the impression that Knaus has been bankrolled so far mainly by governments and institutions with appropriate tax and donations.
Controversial think tanks control Merkel in the refugee crisis
When choosing its financiers the good man seems to be little squeamish, because the European Stability Initiative, whose chairman he is currently is, much of the controversial financial speculators George Soros funded . 2006 billionaire was the last instance in Paris for insider trading to a fine of 2.2 million euros convicted .
For some time Soros supported leftist groups and activists around the world financially. His name is mentioned in particular with destabilization initiatives in the Balkans and Eastern Europe. The British weekly New Statesman raises serious allegations against Soros and paid by him Institute. He is due to business interests all countries targeted destabilizes have . Despite these backgrounds Soros determined currently on the ESI the fate and the future of the entire continent of Europe and beyond. For his governor Gerald Knaus can be in the Phoenix round openly with the abdominal binder “Did the blueprint for Merkel’s Turkey plan worked” imagine .
To arrange these once not elected parliamentarians in Berlin determine policy in the epochal refugee crisis but controversial think tanks with questionable financiers in the background. A scandal first order.
In the subsequent panel discussion on “dispute over visa-free regime – Tilts Turkey Deal« Soros man falls on especially with two statements. Firstly, with an unconcealed Turkey lobbying. So he calls a visa freedom for 80 million Turks, which he continually soothingly called a “visa liberalization”. Even if the EU-Turkey deal fails and stops the oppression of political opposition and journalists, he wants to see politically enforced the visa-free regime. To relativize the disastrous conditions in the Erdoğan-Turkey, Knaus does not shrink back before completely unrealistic comparing visa agreements with Guatemala and El Salvador. Finally travel indeed members of the Federal Government and the EU to Egypt and Azerbaijan, without complaining about the local human rights documents, the sociologist.
Maybe you should try out the financial operations of Soros in recent months precisely and begin with the ownership of the listed Turkish airport operator TAV Airports Holding it. Namely, when millions of impoverished Turks and harassed Kurdish population flown directly into the German social systems, can certainly earn big bucks for windy speculators and airport operators.
“Resettlement. Resettlement. Resettlement. ”
The second concern, or we call it rather than what it is in reality, repeatedly put forward threat of spin doctors, consisted of Merkel to remember their common plan in the core from direct relocation 500 000 Syrians from Turkish refugee camps after Germany is.
I had pointed out in March already on this Geheimpassus in EU-Turkey deal. Now we finally know, what whisperers we owe this madness have . Soros-Knaus-Merkel, the triumvirate which is Germany’s future at risk.
The other articles in the panel discussion by Knaus repeated accordingly. Not the Balkan route is the cause of the stopped flow of refugees, but be of Merkel unreacted Turkey deal. If Turkey would terminate its deal, Greece would be the final Chaos safely. And the poorly trained Macedonian police were unable to keep the Balkan route towards a renewed refugee onslaught.
What is also not necessary, because a number of countries have their support already confirmed, including Austria and Hungary, with adequate police and army personnel. But this hidden from Knaus. Because it would jeopardize the threat scenario constructed to collapse. So he remains even in his final word that his Turkey deal was the panacea to the current crisis and Germany kindly should quickly begin the resettlement of 500 000. Syrians. Of course, he formulated this more elegant. The core, however, remains the same.
What we say now critics of Soros and his associates, who claim the Berlin politicians, led by Merkel, are externally controlled, guided by obscure foundations and controversial multibillion-dollar financial speculators? What we say these detectors? The presence of the chairman of the European Stability Initiative in the panel discussion was very helpful and revealing at the same time in this regard. The critics are right. The claim not only evil conspiracy theorists, but also Gerald Knaus itself.”””””
Here is a link to the show mentioned in above quoted text (german language, but auto-subs available):
“Erdogan, Merkel und Europa: Visafreiheit – Kippt der Türkei-Deal?” – Phoenix Runde || 17.05.2016
Minotheras
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6n55yNO-RY
Here the official yt channel of this parasite (English) : https://www.youtube.com/user/esiweb
Wow —what an important article. I wish that somebody could redact it, even though it is of course understandable already, and enough for me to start seaching for more info on Knaus.
His own cv – he about himself:
http://www.esiweb.org/index.php?lang=en&id=279&person_ID=1
“””””Gerald Knaus (Austria) is ESI’s founding chairman. After having studied in Oxford, Brussels and Bologna, he taught economics at university in Ukraine in 1993/94 and spent five years working for NGOs and international organisations in Bulgaria and Bosnia and Herzegovina. From 2001 to 2004, he was the director of the Lessons Learned Unit of the EU Pillar of the UN Mission in Kosovo. In 2011, he co-authored, alongside Rory Stewart, the book “Can Intervention Work?” He has also co-authored more than 80 ESI reports as well as scripts for 12 TV documentaries on South East Europe. He is a founding member of the European Council on Foreign Relations and was for five years an Associate Fellow at the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy at Harvard University’s Kennedy School, where he was a Visiting Fellow in 2010/2011 lecturing on state building and intervention. He writes his blog on http://www.rumeliobserver.eu.”””””
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Finfo.kopp-verlag.de%2Fhintergruende%2Fdeutschland%2Fandreas-von-r-tyi%2Fmerkel-migranten-und-manipulation-wie-george-soros-die-bundeskanzlerin-beraet.html&edit-text=
“”””” Merkel, migrants and Manipulation: How George Soros advises the Chancellor
Andreas von Rétyi
The ways of the Lord are inscrutable – or at least often not immediately apparent, especially when it comes to George Soros. He also wants to significantly influence the Chancellor out of the background. And this happens in particular through the Chairman of the Organization ESI, a think tank that is supported substantially by George Soros. [for more click the link]”””””
Dear comrade (as you called me, it‘s ok) Martin (at May 21, 2016 , 05:22 UTC)
I am sorry to say that your knowledge of Poland seems to be much more extensive than intensive. 70 travels … and the knowledge (I mean positive knowledge, neither opinion nor prejudice) you show seems to be exactly zero. You recommend two Wiki_EN articles (about
Polish–Lithuanian_Commonwealth and Jozef_Pilsudski) which are excellent, but which you cannot possible have looked at and much less read from start to end.
Your „evil bloodsucking Empire“ is there praised e.g. for: „[having been] reluctant to get involved in the Thirty Years’ War; this neutrality spared the country from the ravages of a political-religious conflict which devastated most of contemporary Europe“; for „King John III Sobieski [having] allied himself with Leopold I to deal crushing defeats to the Ottoman Empire. In 1683, the Battle of Vienna marked the final turning point in the 250-year struggle between the forces of Christian Europe and the Islamic Ottoman Empire“; for the „Golden liberty/ies“: „The three regions of the Commonwealth enjoyed a degree of autonomy.(…) Golden Liberty created a state that was unusual for its time, although somewhat similar political systems existed in the contemporary city-states like the Republic of Venice.[your Veneti/Wenden/Wineta=Wolin] (…) At a time when most European countries were headed toward centralization, absolute monarchy and religious and dynastic warfare, the Commonwealth experimented with decentralization, confederation and federation, democracy and religious tolerance.“ Poland in 1791 gave itself the first written democratic constitution in Europe, but: „Russia [= the terrible bloodsucking regime before the arrival of Russian/Soviet communism] feared the revolutionary implications of the May 3rd Constitution’s political reforms and the prospect of the Commonwealth regaining its position as a European power. Catherine the Great [= the German czaress of Russia, Sophie von Anhalt-Zerbst] regarded the May constitution as fatal to her influence and declared the Polish constitution Jacobinical [i.e. the same thing as the left wing of the French Revolution]. (…)
The Commonwealth was an important European center for the development of modern social and political ideas. It was famous for its rare quasi-democratic political system, praised by philosophers such as Erasmus; and, during the Counter-Reformation, was known for near-unparalleled religious tolerance, with peacefully coexisting Catholic, Jewish, Eastern Orthodox, Protestant and Muslim communities. In the 18th century, the French Catholic Rulhiere wrote of 16th century Poland: “This country, which in our day we have seen divided on the pretext of religion, is the first state in Europe that exemplified tolerance. In this state, mosques arose between churches and synagogues. (…) Kraków’s Jagiellonian University is one of the oldest universities in the world (established in 1364), together with the Vilnius University (established in 1579) they were the major scholarly and scientific centers in the Commonwealth. The Komisja Edukacji Narodowej, Polish for Commission for National Education, formed in 1773, was the world’s first national Ministry of Education. (…) In 1628 the Czech teacher, scientist, educator, and writer John Amos Comenius took refuge in the Commonwealth, when the Protestants were persecuted under the Counter Reformation. (…) The two great religious cultures of the Commonwealth, Latin and Eastern Orthodox, coexisted and penetrated each other, which is reflected in the great popularity of icons [… etc, you‘re not interested in religion] (in) the Orthodox Church in the predominantly Latin territories of today’s Poland (Black Madonna) and Lithuania (Our Lady of the Gate of Dawn).
(…) The population of the Commonwealth was never overwhelmingly either Roman Catholic or Polish. This circumstance resulted from Poland’s possession of Ukraine and federation with Lithuania, in both of which countries ethnic Poles were a distinct minority. (…) Poland has a long tradition of religious freedom. The right to worship freely was a basic right given to all inhabitants of the Commonwealth throughout the 15th and early 16th century, however, complete freedom of religion was officially recognized in Poland in 1573 during the Warsaw Confederation. Poland kept religious freedom laws during an era when religious persecution was an everyday occurrence in the rest of Europe. Commonwealth was a place were the most radical religious sects, trying to escape persecution in other countries of the Christian world, sought refuge. In 1561 Bonifacio d’Oria, a religious exile living in Poland, wrote of his adopted country’s virtues to a colleague back in Italy: “You could live here in accordance with your ideas and preferences, in great, even the greatest freedoms, including writing and publishing. No one is a censor here.” (…)“
Oh, yes, uh, no: Wiki mentions nowhere in this article the terms „evil“ and „blood-sucking“.
Now about your info that Poland was „governed by a Polish racist Nazi during the time between WW1 and WW2″. Wiki_EN sez in the article you recommended, among other things, about Jozef Pilsudski, school comrade of Feliks Edmundowicz Dzierzynski:
„Describing himself as a descendant of the culture and traditions of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Pilsudski believed in a multicultural Poland – a home of nations, recognizing numerous ethnic and religious nationalities and finally existing in strong historical alliance with independent states of Lithuania and Ukraine. (…) Early in his political career, Pilsudski became a leader of the Polish Socialist Party. (…) In 1914 he anticipated the outbreak of a European war, the Russian Empire’s defeat by the Central Powers, and the Central Powers’ defeat by the western powers [so he was *much* more intelligent than our Kaiser Wilhelm II who thought long afterwards that he would win]. (…) From November 1918, when Poland regained independence, until 1922 Piłsudski was Poland’s Chief of State. [and later held and left other positions, but never headed a PL government, “governed“ PL. The very first PL gov‘t under his authority] was predominantly socialist and introduced many reforms long proclaimed as necessary by the Polish Socialist Party, such as the eight-hour day, free school education, and women’s suffrage. (…) In addition, the country had to unify the disparate systems of law, economics, and administration in the former German, Austrian and Russian sectors of Poland. There were nine legal systems, five currencies, 66 types of rail systems (with 165 models of locomotives [how many of them did you photograph?]), which all had to be consolidated on an expedited basis. (…) Wacław Jędrzejewicz, in „Pilsudski: A Life for Poland“, describes Pilsudski as very deliberate in his decision-making. He collected all available pertinent information, then took his time weighing it before arriving at a final decision. Pilsudski drove himself hard, working all day and all night [very much like comrade Stalin, right?] He maintained a spartan lifestyle, eating plain meals alone at an inexpensive restaurant. Though Pilsudski was popular with much of the Polish public, his reputation as a loner (the result of many years’ underground work), as a man who distrusted almost everyone, led to strained relations with other Polish politicians.
(…) The Bolsheviks (…) proclaimed the partitions of Poland null and void. Pilsudski thus speculated that Poland would be better off with the Bolsheviks, alienated from the Western powers, than with a restored Russian Empire. By ignoring the strong pressures from the Entente Cordiale to join the attack on Vladimir Lenin’s struggling Soviet government, Piłsudski probably saved the Bolshevik government in the summer and fall of 1919. (…) On 1 July 1920, in view of the rapidly advancing Soviet offensive, Poland’s parliament, the Sejm, formed a Council for Defense of the Nation. It was chaired by Pilsudski (…) The National Democrats, however, contended that the string of Bolshevik victories had been Pilsudski’s fault and demanded that he resign; some even accused him of treason. (…) The Entente pressured Poland to surrender and enter into negotiations with the Bolsheviks. Pilsudski, however, was a staunch advocate of continuing the fight. As Norman Davies noted, at that time, especially abroad, “Pilsudski had nothing of his later prestige…“(…) All – from Lenin to Lloyd George, from Pravda to Morning Star – considered him a military and political failure. In August 1920 all were in agreement that his catastrophic career will be crowned with the fall of Warsaw.” Yet over the next few weeks, Poland’s risky, unconventional strategy at the August 1920 Battle of Warsaw halted the Soviet advance. (…)
When the Chjeno-Piast coalition, which Pilsudski had strongly criticized, formed a new government, on 12–14 May 1926, Pilsudski returned to power in a coup d’état (the May Coup), supported by the Polish Socialist Party, Liberation, the Peasant Party, and even the Polish Communist Party. (…) One of Pilsudski’s main goals was to transform the parliamentary system into a presidential system; however, he opposed the introduction of totalitarianism. The adoption of a new Polish constitution in April 1935, tailored by Pilsudski’s supporters to his specifications — providing for a strong presidency — came too late for Pilsudski to seek that office; but the April Constitution would serve Poland up to the outbreak of World War II and would carry its Government in Exile through to the end of the war and beyond. (…) Pilsudski’s regime began a period of national stabilization and of improvement in the situation of ethnic minorities, which formed about a third of the Second Republic’s population. Pilsudski replaced the (former) “ethnic-assimilation” with a “state-assimilation” policy: citizens were judged not by their ethnicity but by their loyalty to the state. Widely recognized for his opposition to the National Democrats antisemitic policies, he extended his policy of “state-assimilation” to Polish Jews. The years 1926–35, and Pilsudski himself, were favorably viewed by many Polish Jews (…) Many Jews saw Pilsudski as their only hope for restraining antisemitic currents in Poland and for maintaining public order; he was seen as a guarantor of stability and a friend of the Jewish people, who voted for him and actively participated in his political bloc. Pilsudski’s death in 1935 brought a deterioration in the quality of life of Poland’s Jews. (…)
Pilsudski sought to maintain his country’s independence in the international arena, (…) sought support for Poland in alliances with western powers such as France and the United Kingdom, and with friendly, if less powerful, neighbors such as Romania and Hungary. (…) Pilsudski (…) aimed also to maintain good relations with the Soviet Union and Germany; hence Poland signed non-aggression pacts with both its powerful neighbors: the 1932 Soviet-Polish Non-Aggression Pact, and the 1934 German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact. The two treaties were meant to strengthen Poland’s position in the eyes of its allies and neighbors. (…) Hitler repeatedly suggested a German-Polish alliance against the Soviet Union, but Pilsudski declined, instead seeking precious time to prepare for potential war with Germany or with the Soviet Union. Just before his death, Pilsudski told Jozef Beck that it must be Poland’s policy to maintain neutral relations with Germany and keep up the Polish alliance with France, and to improve relations with the United Kingdom.“
The words „racist“ and „nazi“ are not used in this article for describing Pilsudski.
I think a good idea for trying to understand Poles and Poland is to assume that they are – in stark contrast to Germany – a free country with free people. They are entitled and used to have different opinions and to voice them if asked, and it is very easy with them to „agree to disagree“ – unheard of in our eternal German muckertum. Here the only option is „to find hidden enemies – traitors! – and destroy them“, where „enemy/traitor“ is everyone with an opinion differing in the slightest from the sh§t in heads like that of Schäuble or „Merkel“.
When I visited a concert of Zhanna Bichevskaja in Poznan, or a folk ensemble from Voronezh at music festivals in Kostrzyn and Cychry, never the slightest little bit of „Polish hatred for Russians“ ever turned up. They have a Russian Film Festival every year in Warsaw that is more important than the one in Berlin. When you like to go there, do it! When you want to dislike Russians, do that! From my looks into the Polish press I got the impression that *not* „only the evil Russians are preventing them from happiness“, but also low wages, corruption scandals, railways operating much slower „than the German ones in 1938 on the same route“ etc. etc. The newest evil is the new government, which has been elected by the Polish people, but not by the Polish „liberal“ press – even the old Catholic battle horse, Tygodnik Powszechny, disagrees with the very Catholic Kaczynski regime.
By the way, in Tygodnik Powszechny, #3486, pp.53-55, bought in Kostrzyn on this year‘s Polish national holiday, I found a smashing story by Tomasz Targanski, „Sa,siedi za murem“ (Neighbours behind the wall) about the first ghetto, invented 500 years ago in our Slavic Wenecja, which was then the only place in Europe – apart from the Kingdom of Poland, see above – where Jews could live in the security of firm walls and firm laws which protected them. One of the burning questions on the Internet, where the Khazarian Mafia (TM) came from and why they choose namely Yiddish as their language, answers itself through this article.
I‘d like to propose to you to try places like the newspaper shop at Bahnhof Zoo (for Ostberlin I am sceptical), and find, say, Polityka among the foreign press. It costs 3E to buy, but you can read it there for free. Your Russian will help you to decipher Polish, and you can begin to get a realistic picture of what interests Poles apart from hating Russians.
Cheers
For all other readers I‘d like to point out that one main preoccupation of true Germans is not to say what we want (someone could hear it and disagree and this could be dangerous), but who we , uh, all dislike – e.g. Poles. Everybody can agree on that, and then… our führers will make foreign policy out of it, tomorrow as in the past. If at least facts would be taken into account, these things might be better in the future than in the past.
Dear Anonymous on May 21, 2016 · at 9:38 pm UTC ,
First of all: N e v e r in your life again call me a “German”!
Big thanks for your long response.
I just returned and saw your comment. Yes – have taken the time to read your letter from A-Z. It is correct that I only scrolled over the wikipedia articles and read about 30% (a bit here, a bit there).
The wikipedia articles were a bit too Poland-friendly (as expected, think-tank written), that’s why I stopped reading.
Nevertheless it was honestly interesting to hear it in that verbose scientific personally written manner from you, depicting your perspective.
You are certainly right with a lot of points and even managed to positively surprise me.
On the other hand you remind me a bit of that Israeli from 2 weeks ago who genuinely had _believed_ he lives on the _good_ side, because all he knew for decades was his side’s propaganda.
To respond to your message in a worthy manner would require some dedicated hours of verification, constructing a counter essay, making some notes of things I’m aware of, finding verified sources etc.
This here only in advance.
What you write – forgive me – could also describe the EU. So although the keywords may sound tempting, it *may* doesn’t necessarily have to mean anything (related to true freedom).
As said, I can debunk most of your message, point by point.
But at the moment I have better plans.
Only in a hurry: First Universities? What about Praha ?
But let’s ask wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_universities_in_continuous_operation
I counted 40 universities, of whom exactly 1 is in Poland. Chronologically it comes 19th place.
Count yourself how often Germany is represented (be aware that you have to count in the old borders of the Holy Roman Empire, because Prague was for example known as the first german university, and not only the first german [see below])
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_University_in_Prague
“””””Charles University in Prague (also simply Charles University; Czech: Univerzita Karlova v Praze; Latin: Universitas Carolina Pragensis; German: Karls-Universität Prag) is the oldest and largest university in the Czech Republic. Founded in 1348, it was the first university in Central Europe, east of France and north of Italy.[1] It is one of the oldest universities in Europe in continuous operation and ranks in the upper 1.5 percent of the world’s best universities.[2][3]”””””
Pilsudski: What, he was a “Socialist”???
Are you serious? If that’s true, then Hitler was also a “Socialist”, only a “National” one.
I know enough about the “Treaty” of Versailles, and about the Polish-Soviet war, and about the way in which Poland used to “solve” its border conflicts (such as with Chechia). I also know enough about all the nasty nationalistic things. I also know what the Poles have done to my father, who tried to grow up as a child/young man in what had been Germany for 800 years but was then suddenly Poland. This family branch could stay there for some reason (I cannot ask him anymore, because he is dead). His life was hell, because they were hated for being “evil Germans”, he got discriminated and beaten while being in the army. My father’s branch stayed in Poland as polish citizens until 1969. And believe me – I know enough.
Let me start with Est-German TRUTH TV:
(start at 5:20)
Der schwarze Kanal 1985 2/2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpnE_SUg6Gw
polish nationalism 1918
https://www.google.de/search?q=polish+nationalism+1918&biw=1280&bih=851&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjkleKztOzMAhUEchQKHXUkAEcQ_AUIBigB
A pity, I did not find quickly what I was looking for, but the images about from modern time probably also draw another perspective from what you claimed. What I actually wanted to find: In Bromberg there had been Polish far-right nationalists at the end of WW1 how distributed huge placards all over the city where they demanded to reduce (how???) the number of ethnic germans from this part of then 800 years long p_R_ussia/Germany. Prussia – the name Russia is a substring of it. But this only on a side note.
Poland tried all it could to make life as difficult as possible for the inhabitants of East-Prussia and Gdansk during the interwar period. This included silly regulations and overpriced fees and unnecessary paperwork for the prussian “Ostbahn” (railway Berlin-Kaliningrad).
The new borders after WW1 were extremely unfair, if the borders happened to be a river, the demarkation line was not in the middle of that river as normally, but it was a few meters on the german side. This means local residents could neither go fishing nor swimming nor taking water for agriculture nor anything.
You say my knowledge of Poland is “more extensive than intensive”?
Brother, did you ever consider it may be exactly the other way around? We have lost everything (some also their lives). After years in camps the women with small childs arrived as pennyless refugees with a handfull of belongings in 1947 in central (now East-) Germany. Most of the men never came back. Unles my grandfather, because he had luck and was locomotive driver. Despite this he came into countless life threatening situations.
True – I never before heard so much praise for Poland. It sounds like a brainwashed is speaking. But all of my family branches come from Silesia(1st), near the Russian border (now “Ukrainian border, after WW1 they had to leave and resettled in Silesia), Eastern Prussia(father’s branch). I can tell you stories which you might hard to fit into your fairy tale worldview.
My gand-grand-ma still spoke Russian.
So, back to your “Socialist”:
After both Russia and Germany were paralyzed in late WW1, Polish Nationalists suddenly saw their chance: Polish–Soviet War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War
Here Marschall Piłsudski, Joseph Goebbels :
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski#/media/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-B0527-0001-293,_Warschau,_Empfang_Goebbels_bei_Marschall_Pilsudski.jpg
Ah, it is late.
Dobranoc!
Thanks for the previous defence of Poland , Anoynmous- I took notice just after I wrote my own previosu comment. To Martin: I am sorry for what had happened to your father, but – since you seem to represent a view still coloured by some German propganda (however strange, than in DDR soemthing like that surfaced – one more argaument for a lot of Russian troops and KGB there – even of Poles resented Soveit troops in Poland tehy took their presence in DDR as obvious) – I will provoke and say so: he should be grateful that he was allowed to stay in his Heimat just on the condition of teh signing loyalty declaration to Poland and renouncing contacts with Germany (BDR).
I myself come form Wroclaw (breslau) and knwo stories about those couple thosuands of Germans who did choose to stay on Polsih side – not many of them, still, which simply speaks for tehir loyalty to VAteralnd and Führer. It is true, hwoevr, that just after the war there was a great hatred towards Germans on the POlsih side – much bigger than that against Russians, by the way, who did gave us new lands. The onyl way to be a German here in that time was to be a low-key German, like tram or locomotive driver.
If you want to know what happens in Poland, read not only weekly ‘POlitika’ (representing mieleiu of previous elites) but ‘W sieci’ and ‘DO rzeczy’ (split after former goverments croneis bought their ‘Uwazam rze’ )whcih represents the old opposition/new governemnt. For example, teh interview witH JAroslaw Rymkiewicz which I quoted previously, was publsihed in ‘W sieci’. The Germasn newspapers rather unanimosuyl give a bad picture of Poland, Neue Zürcher Zeitung (swiss) maybe a bit better but still bad, too. Austarains I did not read. Since I base my opinions of Germany on German media, it is onyl fair to expect that interested Germans would learn a bit of Polish: in Ukraina and Belarus it is now very popualr langauage!
Londynisczcze:
http://chomikuj.pl/antracyt3/Stanislaw+CAT+Mackiewicz/Stanis*c5*82aw+CAT+Mackiewicz+-+Londyniszcze+%281957%29,1543431972.pdf
Hello, Martin,
after WW2 there was idea (actually conceived by Benes, I think) that Poland, Czeschoslovakia and Serben (Serbenland in DDR) shoudl make one West-Slavic federation…. then, you could choose to live in Serbian part ;) it would be easier to defend non-German identity than in Germany , since you said you are no-German.
Hello a Pole on the French-German border ,
yes, but that wasn’t done.
Today’s Sorben are, think, believe and behave like off the shelf Germans.
Most do not even speak their own mother tongue anymore (which is split into 2 primary groups, one of whom is more similar to Chech while the other one fas more similarities to Polish).
Also I must say I rather pick Transnistria, rather than Poland which mostly dislikes Russia – be it as Communist country or a Tsarist Empire.
Poland feels like a western country now. This is no escape for me. Neither is Sorbenland (mostly non-existant now).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski
“””””The Polish Communist Party immediately attacked Piłsudski as a fascist and capitalist,[2] despite the fact that fascists themselves did not see him this way.[166]”””””
Well, “despite the fact that fascists themselves did not see him this way” doesn’t prove anything.
Maybe more controversial than I thought, but for me bad enough.
Ok, Cheers and good night again, really now.
BTW, Kroats, I think, are only true pro-German Slavs. I think that they are, in fact, pro Austrian, etetrnal and devoted mercenaries of HAbsurgs – like in 30 years war…. maybe you remember Joseph Roths ‘Radetzkymarsch’… och, sorry it was about Slovenians. More or less the same. The West aprt of Yugoslavia in opposition the East part – Serbia.
Hello, yes, politically and in terms of culture, music, mentality Slovenes and Croats appear to be similar. Only the language is different (these historic dialects are a complex topic).
Culturally they are like Poles: German loving anti-serbic anti-Russians.
A pity.
“… anti-serbic …”
Martin, that is very, very true of Croats. Not of Slovenes by any stretch, who in fact, prior to WW1, looked at the small Kingdom of Serbia with great affection, as the hope for salvation from the Austro-Hungarian yoke. Some anti-Serbian sentiment was fanned there only in the early 1990s by the West, who planned and effected dismembering of Yugoslavia. On the other hand, unlike Croats, Slovenes did acquire Germanic culture to a great extent, work habits and discipline. Which made theirs by far the richest of all republics in the Yugoslav federation. And the fact that they in effect economically subsidized the other five poorer republics did cause some resentment, certainly not hatred, which the West cleverly exploited in 1990s. Etc.
One more mystery about Germans I could never fully grasp. It is known as almost German peculiarity that almost all German atrocities were commited becuase ‘Law’. In fact, German obsession with law, and obeying the law, is very similar to respective Jewsih ‘Law’ obsession.
Once, when I tried to reason with a German, he tried to defend thsi German peculiarity, summoning Kant. Since I am a philospher by my degree, I coudl immediately counter that Kant meant obedience to law-as-recognized-by- transcendental-subject, and tarsncendental subject si no way, you or me, or even a state. Nvertehelss, the idea of ‘Gesetz’, togehrtehr with ‘Pflicht’ (duty) – there is even word ‘pflichtbewusstsein
‘ (duty-cosncious, duty-follwoing) and ‘Dienst’ has remarkabel popualirty, seems to grant a semi-god status on thsoe ‘doing duty’ and is one of cornerstone of German state. In jest, I would say, that in German anthem it should be written: we are Germans, we follow law, we do duty!
So, if you have soem obejction what a German does, he, most commonly, will not try to explain to you hsi position, but will cut short ‘i am doing my duty’. This is also I think the gorudn for such reverance of authority in Germany: only authoirty ias bel to define ‘duty’, as of course, the tehory of transcendentals subject is absent from German school.
What is not absent, however, is a classic story by Kleist, Michael Kohlhaas, whose character in Poland would be revered as a hero, but in Germany, it is always stressed that he ‘exeggerated’, ‘all that because two horses’. It is not said, what he should have done instead: write one petition to Prinz a year, till his death? Signifciantyl, teh recent film about Kohlhaas was made by FRench, and its decorum suggest that it takes place soemhwere in Navarra, so already on teh Sapnish border, Spain being another ‘land of anarchy’ in Europa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Uprising:_The_Legend_of_Michael_Kohlhaas
On the other hand, a POlish classics, ‘Pan Tadeusz czyli ostatni zajazd na Litwie’ describes the armed execution (zajazd) of court judgement by one family (clan) upon the other….. no word a critcims about practice itself: I think that these two literary masterpieces show in the best way the differecne bewteen Poladn and Germany: how much the spirit of rebellion andn independence is revered in Poalnd, and how much the same spirit is feared in Germany. PS. as a curiosum, I will say, how 10 yeasr ago when I visited Belarus, Adam Mickiewicz, author of ‘Pan Tadeusz’ was defined: ‘Belarussian poet writing in Polish about Belarussian people (lód = ‘Volk’, more or less)…There were even commemoratiev postcards with Mickiewiecz publsihed by Belrussian state. As much as it is ridiculous, it somehow proves teh Coomowelath clout in its fomer lands.
ps. Two German philosophers, Schopenhauer und Nietzsche, were significantyl proPolish.
Pan Taudesz has 5 German trsnalations!
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Tadeusz
I am astonished: maybe what we were told in school that after Novmber Uprising (1831) Poland was somehwo popualr in Germany is true…. anyway, Mosen Julius, wrote a Lied „Die letzten Zehn vom vierten Regiment“ whose transaltion as ‘ Tysiąc Walecznych opuszcza Warszawe’ became very popualr in Poland…
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Mosen
There was a film by Wajda – picturesque and ‘marchenhaft’, too. Personally, I like much better ‘Wesele’ after Stanislaw Wyspianski: somehow much more stirring, so to say. Wajda’s earlier (communist) films are much better, anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Tadeusz_%28film%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wedding_%281972_film%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wedding_%281901_play%29
Since my intial comment today somehow got lost (dear moderator, maybe you could post it?), I shall repeat main points: 1) there is significnat Rusophobia in Poland, but there is also a consiousnees taht Russians and Russian State are two different things, unlike Germans and Germany. 2) there is some instonctoev sympatyh to Russians, unlike to Germasn, due to language: many Polish like Rsussian langauge but not German, who is at soem lever viscerally unpleasing. 3) the Polsih – Russian relations as observed by me in Gdansk (a lot of vistros from Kaliningrad) two years ago, are quite good. 4) Poland still has some clout due to its Commonwelath, which was more benign tahn oppressive, was a dual state and was supposed to be a trialsit state (PL+LT+UK) till Chmielnicki Uprising. Recenlty, Jaroslw Rymkiewicz, a poet and writer, propsoed reesatblsihemnt of Commonwelath fo 5 nations, not naming which, hwoever. Of teh current states which rpeviosuyl belonged (Estonia (Inflanty), Latvia (Kurlandia and Semigalia), Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraina) I think that all except Lithuania and Ukriana coudl eb interested. On teh otehr hand, there is great wariness in Poland as to virulent Ukrianian natioanlism which spoiled the life in 2. Republic (see, for example, the murder of Polish home affairs minister in 1934 by OUN: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zab%C3%B3jstwo_Bronis%C5%82awa_Pierackiego), so much that when Zyrynowski proposed partition of Ukriane some times ago, majoriyt of Polish was against Lwow (Lemberg) re-incorporation to Poland.
> unlike Germans and Germany.
??
So aren’t you or “the Poles” or “your gov” contradicting yourselves?
Aren’t there also such “germans”: http://www.kommunistische-initiative.de/ ?
And whatever German-Prussian propaganda says about Polish ‘anarchy’, teh fact is that from 1385 (Krewo Union), a real union between Poland and Lithuania through 1569 (Lublin Union, parlamenatry union, the only parliamentary union in Europa apart English – Scottish act of Union of 1707) till teh final partition of Poland in 1795 thsi 400 years of multiculrual demcoracy in the biggest state of Europe after Russia and Ottoman Empire. That is much longer mileage than 20 yeasr of real democracy (and unity, in oppostion to 2000 of German states) which Germasn experienced in Weimar Republic.
The death of Polsih king, Wladyslaw Waza, a great stroke of luck for Prussia (soemthing liek Mirakel des Hauses Brandenburg of 1762), put Poland in its usual perido of wekannes, interregnum, and stopped Wladyslaw plans to wage a war on Prussia with Kossaks that were to be transported on Vistula barges from Ukraine to Prussia. That was the last tiem when Poaldn had soemhwo offensive stance towards Prussia.
By the way, Kossaks, part of tehm being paid soldiers, Kozacy rejestrowi, were a part of Polsih defence system against Ottoman Empire. The Ottoamn threat brough about one of teh first standing armeis in Europe, so called Obrona Potoczna, whcih was, by its very natrue, a permanent battelfield school for Polsih officers, who tehn, remarkably often, prevailed with much weaker forces over stronger oppoenenst (the most glaring exampels being Kircholm victory over Swedes 1605, and Kluszyn vicotry over Russians 1610: We were also teh onyl nation to seize and keep Kremlin thorugh entire 2 years!). The kind of everyday of thsi Polish-Ottoman borderland you can see in film and serial ‘PAN Wolodyjowski’ based on novel by Henryk Sienkiewicz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyKcZgo0SWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OW47E4NIQ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nW3it4piK4
Now, as you see this clips, you can appreciate that Polsih military expereince – being one of great spaces (step) and cavalry raids this expereience was very different than teh one of some poor drilled Hessian sold to the highest bidder to fight ‘Rebellen’. By teh way, Germans served often in Commonwelath army as paid infantry, as Polish nobles (szalchta) onyl served in cavalry and artillery (well, maybe we should just leave Germans in this role – of well-drilled infantry). There is not one famous infnatry genreal of Coomnwelath, all being either cavalry or artillery offcers. Well, actually, Kossaks were supposed to be the Commonwelath infantry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_Cossacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obrona_potoczna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kircholm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Klushino
“””””1) there is significnat Rusophobia in Poland, but there is also a consiousnees taht Russians and Russian State are two different things, unlike Germans and Germany. “””””
You must be blind on all chicken-eyes, if you seriously suggest that Germans and their government are “the same” of that the german population gets represented by its leaders or B) has the feeling of being represented.
IF that _were_ the case, the term “Liars-press” (Luegenpresse) would be non-existant and alternative media such as
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/index.html
http://info.kopp-verlag.de/hintergruende/deutschland/redaktion/aktuelle-weltnachrichten-vom-mai-2-16-kw-21.html
or
http://www.compact-online.de/
wouldn’t have any success, let alone landslide success that they do have and of course there wouldn’t be any PEGIDA rallies in Saxony.
It is funny, all the time you keep trying to prove to me and the audience, that we are all dead-wrong with our opinions about “the Poles” (although I and most here support the position, that on the individual level there _are_ of course also many good Poles in Poland).
And what are you then stating: All germans are bad and are like their gov.
No, I never stated it like this. “all” is a very perful word which “many” (you might say “all”) people fail to understand. Never say never …:
Universal quantification
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_quantification
What I said was something different: The majority of Germans (50.000001++ %) and its entire so called “government” and political parties are no help for Russia. Russia shall not count on Germany.
But what you and many (you would mistakenly say “all”) Poles do not appear to grasp is, that you have it to say like I said it, which is hugely different from what you said.
I do believe you that there are more and more brainless idiots the more you move to the west of germany, but then again, this entire thread is exhausted, or at least I am.
Peace, love, ecstacy!
MANIECZKI PEACE…LOVE…ECSTASY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yo5i3BRTEU
DJ Dean – If I Could Be You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhXQiAj9bPA
p.s. It is exactly the other way around as you say it, not only in Germany but also in Russia.
Because the majority of Russians I ever spoke to who still do live in Russia do feel represented by Putin, especially about Crimea.
The incident with the idiots who left Russia as traitors and now live here in Berlin don’t count, because they love Germany more than Russia, for some financial reasons.
Well, I reflected on the Popular Polish imgaination. In thsi popular imagination (Vorstellung), Russians were often as much oppresed by Soviets as Poles. Therefore there was a sense of brotherhood bewteen Poles and Germasn: Sometimes. But tehre was no such sense for Germasn. In opposition, there is no consciousness that Germans were oppresed by Germans in any significant scale, but there is rememberance of all that top life ‘NUR FÜR DEUTSHCE’ during WW2 and KULTURKAMPF during Kaiserreich. Polish do not read German alternatiev press, I myslef hear first atime about kopp press after 8 yeasr here – Germans, unlike French, do not like to talk about politics, and even less about German politcis. Soemtiems you can discuss a bit US politcis. The farther, the better. Costa Rica politics you can discuss quiet freely.That is my experience.
In fact, only now, with PEGIDA, the image of monolithic Germany started to change In Poland.
And, I do not present Poland as some rosy state: I try to Correct. It wasnt such a bda state, and much better than a Germans ever built. Poland currently has much too bad press, and Germany a bit too good. I reckon that you, as a German (even if you do not name yourself that) have soem tendency to bring all things, especially all near things (so not Costa Rica) down, as – due to German history – it would make you a bit more comfortable and justify Germayn as ‘nothing speciall’ against German ‘Sonderweg’.
Instead of palying with your mind, you coudl do something. If ever in central Europe some new state union were to be created , we could take some small number of Germans. Truly, howevr, I do not expect that many woudl be interested…
Even Volga-Deutsche preferred to live in Germany than in RUssia, and that aftre 200 years being there… So much for your Rusophilia.
Errata.
Instead ‘sense of brotherhood bewteen Poles and Germasn’
put ‘sense of brotherhood bewteen Poles and Russians’.
Please stop using caps – its like shouting. Site rules. Changed this one time. Mod on Duty
> Polish do not read German alternatiev press, I
All(!) of the so called “German press” is anti-german anti-Russian anti-communism
pro-Israel pro-USA pro Poland pro Kiev, pro Baltics, pro-EU press.
It is a 100% equalized Zionist press.
If you and your fellow Poles only know _that_ and believe it is Germany speaking, then I can only regret you. Even the Saker’s authors made this mistake a few times, and I told them the same that I try to tell you.
And then it is little surprise how you react (as planned by the master race).
Example: In 2012 Greek news papers would show Merkel as Hitler and would spread Anti-german hatered, while in so called “Germany” all (all!!!) MSM spread hatered against Greece.
Now, the funny thing is, all these newspapers there in Greece and here in Germany and even in Poland are owned by the same consortiums, owned by 2 or 3 families. And I won’t need to stress what kind of families. I saw a detailed listing about the ownership of European newspapers, but didn’t save it.
It is the Matrix – didn’t you notice it all the deacdes?
It is the same game every time. Poles shall hate Russians, Germans shall hate Poles, etc etc etc.
Not my game …
you are a bit right, but in Poland came to breaking teh medial stalemate of Polityka and Newsweek Polska, and Gazeta Wyborcza, at least in the press market, with the creation of ‘Uwazam rze’ weekly, which suddenly became teh most popular weekly, althozgh teh ydid have somhwo highwr price,only to have been destroyed by teh new owner, associated with goverment and PO. Well, Poland being still a young country, all journalsit left the weekly, and grounded two new: ‘W sieci, whcih is staunchyl pro-PIS and PIS -Kaczynksi and ‘Do rzeczy’ which is also conservative, but critical of PIS.
I wonder why Gemran journalsit do not such thing? why only Spiegel and Stern?
As for spreading hate – there is some very sad truth, and again I refer to soem earlier reflection on national charcters (or Volkerspsychologie as it was once called): even propganda must work on some b a s i s. So, if Germans would choose to become anarchic luddities, and took no more pride in VW and BMW and Mercedes and Tiger, proganda would not work….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwa%C5%BCam_Rze
Lenin takoi Molodoi, People’s Republic of Poland Edition (maybe it helps you) :
И вновь продолжается бой / Walka ciągle trwa / The battle is going again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afq6Bm_mq3Q
“””””Well, I reflected on the Popular Polish imgaination. In thsi popular imagination (Vorstellung), Russians were often as much oppresed by Soviets as Poles. Therefore there was a sense of brotherhood bewteen Poles and Germasn”””””
What a nonsense you are telling.
The majority of Russians who are old enough to have lived in the Soviet Union share my view that it was the most beuatiful country of all times, the absolute peak of human development!
I Lenin Takoy Molodoy (Levchenko)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bh1fj_RCyQ
Праздничный концерт 9 мая 2015 на Поклонной горе. ТВЦ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFiMMl66iCI
САМОЦВЕТЫ – Мой адрес Советский Союз
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CeBtpC4eds
Оргия Праведников. Наша Родина – СССР
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwAXO7IzomU
Hymn of the Soviet Union
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2-zzmCmMVI
Учат в школе….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt0EyZcPjtg
Прекрасное далеко (нарезка видео фрагментов)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8xyOkb5M74
Марк Бернес. С чего начинается Родина?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXwUPXY9eaY
Елена Ваенга – Песни военных лет – 9 мая – 70 лет Великой Победы
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY5RwvGHP0g
It turns out you don’t know who you are, you don’t know who I am and you don’t appear to know what we were talking about.
Go to Poland or stay in “Germany”, but don’t expect me to spend 2 hours daily on reading and responding to your comments.
If you Poles believe you need to hate the Soviet Union, then it is your own loss.
removed and go to Cuba: the last socialist country of Euroepan descent…
Now, you have something to do! And I shall not write anymore…
This conversation is being shut down. Getting too personal. Please stop any further comments. Mod on Duty.
Maxim Galkin . Russian Jew ( mother Jewish, father Russian)
Very good Russian “folk” song
https://youtu.be/Bacw5R5i3Mg
Somewhat horrible parody on German song
https://youtu.be/0wa11ejfckM
Take it easy, no offense, but as a parody it is quite funny.
Hello from Zionist Israel
https://youtu.be/xUDr6K_Bjco
SILENZIUM The battle goes on (“Неба утреннего стяг” cover) [Official Video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBnCo2SKafU
Why USSR was the best country of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxQPYDM70ow
Лев Лещенко “Любовь, комсомол и весна” Песня года – 1978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOx9h-Z1wZ0
BelaRus, 3 years ago:
Верасы Любовь,комсомол и весна
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBgUTb6S97U
Olimpiadas Unión Soviética 1980 Apertura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFI0xP5_VaQ
Наташа Королева “Олимпиада-80” Новая Волна 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiRxZasOqHc
Who hates the Soviet Union is not right in his mind . That’s a fact.
> Even Volga-Deutsche preferred to live in Germany than in RUssia, and that aftre
> 200 years being there…
Haha, maybe some.
And do you wanna know why?
Because first the West destroyed the Soviet Union and made life there impossible under their puppet Yeltsin.
Then Germany gave them something like a 50 Thousand DeutschMark Bonus per person when they came here (only Wolgadeutsche got so much).
Some of my relatives live outside Berlin in a humble small house. The neigboring property was bought by “Wolgadeutsche”, they received huge sums from the german authorities. Just for coming here.
As for the Soviet Union – you are a waste of time.
I meanwhile regret that I made the mistake to ever write you.
But look here why Russians had to leave Russia under Yeltsin:
Гражданская Оборона – Всё идёт по плану (Клип)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS54GkLRtrI
The Unknown Putin. Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCU4C6ajgBI&list=PL36lqR9B_gXeCDecMe9uk5EIkm7liQ7ci
Ленинград – Ленин такой молодой
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na98ev9GPwc
To add one more comment in conclusion to what I’ve said earlier:
Trudeau as puppet of empirez? Personally, I don’t know yet. What i do know is that Canada did not follow what the US planned for Canada at the time of the federal election – even though it truly seemed like the Hegemon was in total control of this country. This seems nothing short of miraculous, and I think, indicates that sometimes much more is happening behind the scenes than what is released to the public. That was my reason for mentioning this.
Some of us believe it is not worth the effort to mount a rescue for Germany. Fair enough. I’m wondering if there are some people in powerful positions who have decided that it is worth it. The hypothesis I put forward leads me to conclude that Germany has declared war on the US – as crazy as that may sound.
I wonder if some of those in positions of power in Germany did not agree with that coup in Ukraine, and instead of writing a strongly worded letter, they decided to take a different approach. If so, these few are willing to sacrifice their careers, reputations, and possibly even their lives to spring Germany from this trap. And they are not negotiating.
About Yalta 2.0 – would Scott write about this so openly if he didn’t have tangible evidence that it is authentic?
> About Yalta 2.0 – would Scott write about this so openly if he didn’t have tangible
> evidence that it is authentic?
I won’t remind you of other artciles.
The latest one is this very thread about “NATO leaving Europe due to a German led EU-Army” or Egypt Air.
I really admire Scott’s articles.
But sometimes he hastily sells possibilities as propabilities (to say it with The Saker’s famous words) . Sometimes even highly unlikely scenarios if not even impossibilities (NATO leaves Europe soon).
Or “VVP, he is _always_ correct.
Or: No poverty – everything fine.
but as said, I see him as comrade witha different set of interpretations, but the very best intentions.
Maybe _I_’m wrong on all acounts.
Then he gets 4 beer from me.