(The voice of screen screams “Glory to the Ukraine!”)
Saker Message:
(The voice of screen screams “Glory to the Ukraine!”)
Donetsk and Lugansk has agree to remain part of Ukraine, if Kiev accepts it.
http://rt.com/news/184236-lugansk-donetsk-kiev-talks/
That kinda demoralised me a bit I must admit, I saw the RNR leaders say they would never remain part of Ukraine.
Now they will remain in Ukraine, be victims to the oligarchs, the nazists Ukraine will directly be flooded with arms from Nato, and the chance to form an own country will be lost forever.
It’s a compromise Novorossia has cities that are ukranian supporters and if they will be a separate country then they have to deal with internal turmoil again.
Donetsk and Lugansk has agree to remain part of Ukraine, if Kiev accepts it.
This is tyupical “Putinesque” handling of the issue, knowing with certainity that Kiev will never accept it. This will prove that they are not the unreasonable side.
Based on how Kiev has acted this far I doubt they will accept it. It would signal to the rest of the Ukrainian population that the Junta could not suppress by force Donbass and it ended in a stalemate. A moral victory for Donbass and a psychologically demoralizing body blow for the Junta and its supporters.
Time is on the Novorossiyan and Russian’s side, it is working against the Junta and the West. They are showing the rest of the world that they are openly and willingly to make concessions and compromise to Ukraine and move forward. If Ukraine dismisses as I suspect they will, the Russians can step forward and say “we tried but a brutal civil war continues winter is coming we will have to recognize Novorossiya as a state and begin putting into place a government for the people before they freeze to death.” Putin I believe alluded to something about government building because winter was coming and gas/heating infrastructure needed to be rebuilt in his interview on Sunday.
Just my opinion.
Stepping Razor
no, Russia will always be behind them, and they have already said they want to be part of Eurasian custom. It is a very smart move to get EU behind. US senator Feinstein on NBC said that it is time to have “personal talk” with president Putin.
In current political clown chaos(EU+US), it is the best way to claim: we have tried to be part of UKR but Kiev refused.
Priority should be to stop the cities shelling, push ATO trupps out of Grad/Uragan perimeter (max 90 km).
It will be long process anyway, over the winter
Pesimist
I was rolling on the floor and laughing when saw these ‘big thanks’ to ukie ‘patriots’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHBqa5apKuQ
Can someone confirm or deny authenticity of this ?
Kiev won’t accept that and maybe thats the point. The puppet masters in London/DC/Brussels won’t allow a capitulation of that magnitude either. Look at the language out of Kiev – “subhumans, we need to wipe out 1.5 mil, etc., etc.” Just the opening salvos in a peace process I believe
Yes horrible if this is true:(
And ukr coup gov will “clean up” any people aftrwards.
So thinking that the problem will dissapear if novorossia becomes part of ukraine, would be very dissolutional.
Thanks Saker.
I’m kind of depressive, but this made me laugh !!
My hope is that the Ukraine junta and the transatlantic Fourth Reich behind it would reject the offer of peace, and, again my hope is, that will be the beginning of the end for the genocidal failed statelet.
But the sheep didn’t jump.
Todays top UK smirk prize comment goes to Lord West, former head of the Navy:
“Nato has to realise that it’s no good having a broken force.
“Putin and other countries think they are talking the talk but they are not walking the walk. It’s just bluff”
(The Daily Telegraph:
Nato Allies are told to increase defence spending.)
Love it!
You made me laugh….
You could apply this to any “Free” “Western Democracies” as well….
Looks like Photographer Stenin was murdered by Right sector thugs. Most likely they put him into a car with civilians they had killed and looted and then fired grad rockets at the wreckage. Why else would they fire rockets at a site that was already shelled and filled with dead civilians??
“When they detained Stenin and realized who he was, it became obvious that they could not hope to get ransom for him. They couldn’t let him go either, so there was no way for him to stay alive,” DPR Security Minister Leonid Baranov said.
“They captured him, put in a car and shot or just blew him up.
Rossiya Segodnya Director General Dmitry Kiselev said that Russian investigators confirmed that Stenin was among those killed during an attack on a convoy of at least 10 vehicles carrying civilians in early August near Donetsk in eastern Ukraine.
Kiev’s simulated attempts to find Rossiya Segodnya photojournalist Andrei Stenin and exchange him for Ukrainian pilot Nadezhda Savchenko when he was already dead, were unscrupulous, Russian Union of Journalists head Vsevolod Bogdanov said Wednesday.