by Amarynth for the Saker Blog
There has been a slight pause in these sitreps. This writing became overshadowed with current events, fully covered in the Saker Blog by other writers. Because of length, we will upgrade this one today from sitrep to guest analysis.
A shortlisting of four major events since the Sitrep paused:
1.Meng Wanzhou’s triumphant return to China and a win against the Long Arm of the Law. Meng is back at work this morning. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202110/1237211.shtml
2.The failed visit (yes another failed diplomatic visit) which resulted in this comical and humorous tweet from Escobar
@RealPepeEscobar
US-CHINA IN 30 SECONDS
- Jake Sullivan – “We wanna talk about Uyghurs, Hong Kong, Taiwan, human rights.”
- Yang Jiechi – “No.”
- Sullivan – “Climate change.”
- Yang Jiechi – “Maybe. If you listen.”
- Sullivan – “So we’re coming after you big time.”
- Yang Jiechi – “Bring it on.”
Uhm, how did that climate change maybe thing work out? Well it turns out not so well. Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping are among several world leaders who will not be attending the big climate summit COP26 scheduled to begin this week in Britain. The two leaders will not even give it a pretense of legitimacy. Now, that is how to give a perfect diplomatic snub! Or is it only a diplomatic snub? I think both China and Russia are expressing that any attempt to do productive work with a naked insane emperor is now futile. We will probably see light speed changes from now on into multipolarity to hopefully gain a world that is now insisting on decent human values and most of all, peaceful resolution of differences.
3.The other big event was the forming of Aukus, obviously in an attempt to create a mini-NATO against first China and Russia.
4.At the height of all of these were and are still the Taiwan issues and we will take a look at Xi Jinping’s speech a little later in this writing.
One soon finds that it becomes almost impossible to approach China from a generalist perspective. But, we have help. On the economics side, we have Michael Hudson. On the historical side, we have writers such as Godfree Roberts, Jeff J Browne and many others. On the anti-China propaganda side, we have me and a number of reliable commentators on the Saker Blog and on the social, community, and humanity side, we have a host of excellent bloggers, documentary makers, and distributors of information as if one is walking in the streets and in the countryside with your own feet. And of course, China is now taking its rightful place in the world as a leader and has improved markedly in information dissemination; they are taking their place on the world stage as wolf warriors, (Uhm, no, I did not mean to write that, of course, I meant to write ..) diplomats.
Sidebar: China is a massive country and in landmass second only to Russia. But even in this simple measurement, the west tries quibbling techniques. Read it and weep. China is only second but Canada is bigger if we measure waterways. And really, China is really smaller than the US. Take a look at the quibble: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/largest-countries-in-the-world
In this year, the year of the 100th anniversary of the founding of the Chinese Communist Party, we experience an almost complete restatement and refinement of China’s goals in our world. We see internal nomenclature such as national rejuvenation, a modern socialist country, and continual reformation with comprehensive plans and strategy, and a peaceful and united domestic environment. Toward the world, we see phrases such as maintaining a revolutionary spirit, the courage to carry out a great struggle with contemporary features, courage, and skill, safeguard sovereignty, and protect security and development interests. We hear that China intends to assume a greater role in and for the world. Aggression and hegemony are not in the blood of the Chinese people and they will strive for a human community with a shared future. There are specific goals set out. China will:
- endeavor to improve the global governance system
- engender peace, development, fairness, justice, democracy and freedom
- work to strengthen solidarity of people of all other countries
- engage in all efforts to oppose hegemony and power politics
What is the difference between Putin’s Optimistic Reasonable Conservatism and Xi’s Human Community with a Shared Future and moderately prosperous society? I cannot see too big of a difference as the qualitative values expressed are similar although the civilizational socialization is different. As Putin expressed his non-acceptance of woke ‘values’ in his Valdai speech, so China in the last few months took real action. They threw the feminine men out of their television programs. The feminine men is an inheritance from Japan to a lesser degree and Korea, to a larger degree. China does not want girly men to become role models for their children. They pulled the rug out from underneath expensive additional schools, acting as funnels to expensive university programs, and tutoring that basically burdened the Chinese children. They have strengthened the Chinese schools to offer all additional education necessary, in order to have consistent educational standards. They simply stopped computer games for younger children and limited this to no more than 3 hours per week. They increased physical programs and education to get the kids out and about with healthy activities. And in stark contrast to the western sphere who wants to control the kids, China just put the responsibility by law, properly and correctly in the parents’ hands. “On Saturday, the National People’s Congress Standing Committee adopted a new law stating that China’s parents are responsible for family education.”
On Taiwan, we see Xi Jinping expressing the following: “The Taiwan question arose from weakness and chaos and will be resolved with national reunification, the one-China principle, and 1992 resolution”.
Regarding military action; we see even Putin expressing that Xi Jinping does not need to take military action. The verbose threats come from the US and Australia.
There are three aspects that Putin and Xi Jinping express as in one voice.
- We are in a time of momentous changes in the world.
- Both Russia and China are prepared and can ride the waves of change in a manner that is helpful, peaceful, and supportive in and for the world.
- The UN (and it has been said a number of times that it needs to be updated) is still the only venue where world problems can be discussed. From Russia, our Law is the UN Charter and this is expressed by China as well. The rules-based concept does not feature whatsoever.
These concepts are fully supported by Putin’s speech at Valdai, and Xi Jinping’s speech at the occasion of the 50th anniversary of China’s formal joining of the United Nations.
During the years since the cold war, another momentous alliance grew almost from a grassroots level. This is the Russia / China treaty of Good Neighborliness. Here, with subtitles is what the Chinese office of foreign affairs thinks of this treaty at its 20th anniversary. China and Russia are not allies, but closer than allies:
'China and Russia are not allies but closer than allies' – Spokesperson on Putin's remarks pic.twitter.com/uePzp2epIf
— Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil (@ivan_8848) October 22, 2021
In this atmosphere of global chaos, Xi Jinping delivered a speech this morning at the occasion of the 50th anniversary of restoration of People’s Republic of China’s lawful seat in the UN:
(Translation)
Speech by H.E. Xi Jinping
President of the People’s Republic of China
At the Conference Marking the 50th Anniversary of the Restoration Of the Lawful Seat of the People’s Republic of China
In the United Nations
25 October 2021
Your Excellency Secretary-General António Guterres,
Your Excellencies Diplomatic Envoys and Representatives of International Organizations,
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Friends,
Comrades,
Fifty years ago today, the 26th Session of the General Assembly of the United Nations adopted, with an overwhelming majority, Resolution 2758, and the decision was made to restore all rights of the People’s Republic of China in the United Nations and to recognize the representatives of the Government of the People’s Republic of China as the only legitimate representatives of China to the United Nations. It was a victory for the Chinese people and a victory for people of the world.
Today, on this special date, we are here to review the past history and look to the future, and that makes our gathering all the more significant.
The restoration of New China’s lawful seat in the United Nations was a momentous event for the world and the United Nations. It came as the result of joint efforts of all peace-loving countries that stood up for justice in the world. It marked the return of the Chinese people, or one-fourth of the world’s population, back to the UN stage. The importance was significant and far-reaching for both China and the wider world.
On this occasion, I wish to express, on behalf of the Chinese government and the Chinese people, heartfelt gratitude to all countries that co-sponsored and supported UN General Assembly Resolution 2758, and to pay high tribute to all countries and people that stand on the side of justice.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Friends,
Comrades,
The past five decades since New China restored its lawful seat in the United Nations have witnessed China’s peaceful development and its commitment and dedication to the welfare of all humanity.
— For these 50 years, the Chinese people have demonstrated an untiring spirit and kept to the right direction of China’s development amidst changing circumstances, thus writing an epic chapter in the development of China and humanity. Building on achievements in national construction and development since the founding of New China, the Chinese people have started the new historical era of reform and opening-up, and successfully initiated and developed socialism with Chinese characteristics. We have continued to unleash and develop productivity and raise living standards, and achieved a historic breakthrough of leaping from a country with relatively low productivity to the second largest economy in the world. Through much hard work, the Chinese people have attained the goal of fully building a moderately prosperous society on the vast land of China, and won the battle against poverty, thus securing a historic success in eradicating absolute poverty. We have now embarked on a new journey toward fully building a modern socialist country and opened up bright prospects for the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation.
—For these 50 years, the Chinese people have stood in solidarity and cooperation with people around the world and upheld international equity and justice, contributing significantly to world peace and development. The Chinese people are peace-loving people and know well the value of peace and stability. We have unswervingly followed an independent foreign policy of peace, stood firm for fairness and justice, and resolutely opposed hegemony and power politics. The Chinese people are a strong supporter of other developing countries in their just struggle to safeguard sovereignty, security and development interests. The Chinese people are committed to achieving common development. From the Tazara Railway to the Belt and Road Initiative, we have done what we could to help other developing countries, and have offered the world new opportunities through our own development. During the trying times of the COVID-19 pandemic, China has been active in sharing COVID response experience with the world, and has sent large quantities of supplies, vaccines and medicines to other countries, and deeply engaged in science-based cooperation on COVID-19 origins tracing, all in a sincere and proactive effort to contribute to humanity’s final victory over the pandemic.
—For these 50 years, the Chinese people have upheld the authority and sanctity of the United Nations and practiced multilateralism, and China’s cooperation with the United Nations has deepened steadily. China has faithfully fulfilled its responsibility and mission as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, stayed true to the purposes and principles of the UN Charter, and upheld the central role of the United Nations in international affairs. China has stood actively for political settlement of disputes through peaceful means. It has sent over 50,000 peacekeepers to UN peacekeeping operations, and is now the second largest financial contributor to both the United Nations and UN peacekeeping operations. China has been among the first of countries to meet the UN Millennium Development Goals. It has taken the lead in implementing the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, accounting for over 70 percent of global poverty reduction. China has acted by the spirit of the UN Charter and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and earnestly applied the universality of human rights in the Chinese context. It has blazed a path of human rights development that is consistent with the trend of the times and carries distinct Chinese features, thus making major contribution to human rights progress in China and the international human rights cause.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Friends,
Comrades,
The trend of the world, vast and mighty, prospers those who follow it and perishes those who go against it. Over the last 50 years, for all the vicissitudes in the international landscape, the world has remained stable as a whole, thanks to the concerted efforts of people of all countries. The world economy has grown rapidly, and innovation in science and technology has kept breaking new ground. A large number of developing countries have grown stronger, over a billion people have walked out of poverty, and a population of several billion are moving toward modernization.
In the world today, changes unseen in a century are accelerating, and the force for peace, development and progress has continued to grow. It falls upon us to follow the prevailing trend of history, and choose cooperation over confrontation, openness over seclusion, and mutual benefit over zero-sum games. We shall be firm in opposing all forms of hegemony and power politics, as well as all forms of unilateralism and protectionism.
— We should vigorously advocate peace, development, equity, justice, democracy and freedom, which are the common values of humanity, and work together to provide the right guiding philosophy for building a better world. Peace and development are our common cause, equity and justice our common aspiration, and democracy and freedom our common pursuit. The world we live in is diverse and colorful. Diversity makes human civilization what it is, and provides a constant source of vitality and driving force for world development. As a Chinese saying goes, “Without achieving the good of one hundred various schools, the uniqueness of one individual cannot be achieved.” No civilization in the world is superior to others; every civilization is special and unique to its own region. Civilizations can achieve harmony only through communication, and can make progress only through harmonization. Whether a country’s path of development works is judged, first and foremost, by whether it fits the country’s conditions; whether it follows the development trend of the times; whether it brings about economic growth, social advancement, better livelihoods and social stability; whether it has the people’s endorsement and support; and whether it contributes to the progressive cause of humanity.
— We should jointly promote the building of a community with a shared future for mankind, and work together to build an open, inclusive, clean and beautiful world that enjoys lasting peace, universal security and common prosperity. The human race is an integral community and Earth is our common homeland. No person or country can thrive in isolation. Humanity should overcome difficulties in solidarity and pursue common development in harmony. We should keep moving toward a community with a shared future for mankind, and jointly create a better future. To build a community with a shared future for mankind is not to replace one system or civilization with another. Instead, it is about countries with different social systems, ideologies, histories, cultures and levels of development coming together for shared interests, shared rights and shared responsibilities in global affairs, and creating the greatest synergy for building a better world.
— We should stay committed to mutual benefit and win-win results, and work together to promote economic and social development for the greater benefit of our people. As ancient Chinese observed, “The essence of governance is livelihood; and the essence of livelihood is adequacy. Development and happy lives are the common aspirations of people in all countries. Development is meaningful only when it is for the people’s interest, and can sustain only when it is motivated by the people. Countries should put their people front and center, and strive to realize development with a higher level of quality, efficiency, equity, sustainability and security. It is important to resolve the problem of unbalanced and inadequate development, and make development more balanced, coordinated and inclusive. It is also important to strengthen the people’s capacity for development, foster a development environment where everyone takes part and has a share, and create a development paradigm where its outcome benefits every person in every country more directly and fairly. Not long ago, at the 76th Session of the UN General Assembly, I proposed a Global Development Initiative with the hope that countries will work together to overcome impacts of COVID-19 on global development, accelerate implementation of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, and build a global community of development with a shared future.
—We should step up cooperation, and work together to address the various challenges and global issues facing humanity. The international community is confronted by regional disputes as well as global issues such as terrorism, climate change, cybersecurity and biosecurity. Only with more inclusive global governance, more effective multilateral mechanisms and more active regional cooperation, can these issues be addressed effectively. Climate change is Nature’s alarm bell to humanity. Countries need to take concrete actions to protect Mother Nature. We need to encourage green recovery, green production and green consumption, promote a civilized and healthy lifestyle, foster harmony between man and Nature, and let a sound ecology and environment be the inexhaustible source of sustainable development.
—We should resolutely uphold the authority and standing of the United Nations, and work together to practice true multilateralism. Building a community with a shared future for mankind requires a strong United Nations and reform and development of the global governance system. Countries should uphold the international system with the United Nations at its core, the international order underpinned by international law and the basic norms of international relations based on the purposes and principles of the UN Charter. International rules can only be made by the 193 UN Member States together, and not decided by individual countries or blocs of countries. International rules should be observed by the 193 UN Member States, and there is and should be no exception. Countries should respect the United Nations, take good care of the UN family, refrain from exploiting the Organization, still less abandoning it at one’s will, and make sure that the United Nations plays an even more positive role in advancing humanity’s noble cause of peace and development. China will be happy to work with all countries under the principle of extensive consultation, joint contribution and shared benefits to explore new ideas and new models of cooperation and keep enriching the practice of multilateralism under new circumstances.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Friends,
Comrades,
A review of the past can light the way forward. Standing at a new historical starting point, China will stay committed to the path of peaceful development and always be a builder of world peace. China will stay committed to the path of reform and opening-up and always be a contributor to global development. China will stay committed to the path of multilateralism and always be a defender of the international order.
As an ancient Chinese poem reads, “Green hills immerse in the same cloud and rain. The same moon lights up towns however far away.” Let us join hands, stand on the right side of history and the side of human progress, and work tirelessly for the lasting and peaceful development of the world and for building a community with a shared future for mankind!
Thank you.
http://www.news.cn/english/2021-10/25/c_1310267311.htm
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To my great surprise, Xi Jinping did not say one word about Taiwan, but sketched out the past as a harbinger of the future while cementing the legal status of China, which is not the legal status of Taiwan. I guess he feels that the contretemps with Taiwan is not important enough.
On the speeches, we may say that those are lofty ideals. But we also see practical and real interaction between China and Russia. The two countries just completed a first joint naval patrol in waters of the West Pacific, between October 17th to the 23rd, according to the Chinese Ministry of Defense. The patrol was held right after China and Russia wrapped up a joint naval exercise in the Sea of Japan from October 14th to 17th.
5 Chinese vessels and 5 Russian destroyers and frigates accompanied by six carrier-based helicopters made passage through the Tsugaru Strait (which caused Japan to run for the Prozac). Yet this Strait is not territorial waters, and warships from any country have the right to transit, which means the transit of the Chinese and Russian vessels was in line with international law. The Tsugaru Strait is narrow, only 12 miles wide at its narrowest point from the Sea of Japan to the Pacific Ocean. This RT link has the photography and videos: https://www.rt.com/news/538265-russia-china-pacific-patrol/
What is also very interesting is that it is said that the sea lane between these two islands is specifically maintained for quick access of US submarines to the Pacific Ocean. A Chinese expert opined as follows:
Encircling Japan, particularly sailing to the east side of Japan, is of significance because many key military installations are located on that side, including the US Navy base in Yokosuka, a Chinese military expert who requested anonymity told the Global Times.
Many US military provocations on China in places like the Taiwan Straits and the South China Sea were launched from these bases, the expert said, noting that the joint patrol by Chinese and Russian vessels could be seen as a warning to the US and Japan, which have been rallying up to confront China and Russia, serves the goals of US hegemony, and undermines regional peace and stability.
“The joint maritime patrol is aimed at further developing the China-Russia comprehensive strategic partnership of coordination for the new era, elevating the joint action capabilities of both nations and jointly maintaining international and regional strategic stability. It’s a part of the annual cooperation plan between the two nations …”
In bold are the most important words, and this is not a lofty ideal, but a very hard challenge to the western power and of course Japan. Also, if one looks at that area with a strategic eye, it breaks up the supposed ‘ring of fire’ to keep China contained. In addition, it is also a warning for Japan, which has been dragging its feet to come to an agreement with Russia on islands further North in the island chain.
So, we have to ask, was this a threat? No, not at all on the surface of it, but it was a stark reminder that the so-called freedom of navigation game that has been constant in the South China Sea and the Straight of Taiwan can be played by more than one player.
It is also notable that from 2019, air forces from China and Russia have conducted annual joint strategic air patrols over the East China Sea and Sea of Japan. We are now seeing very visibly one of the aspects of the development of the China-Russia comprehensive strategic partnership of coordination for the new era.
Did you see that? Did you see the evolution of the Russia / China treaty of Good Neighborliness to the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202110/1237083.shtml
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As is usual, we look at a few of the China data points and I want to remind that you the Chinese governance is always refining, always testing, and prototyping new methods and systems across the spectrum of modern life, and always this is done on a grassroots level.
China is in trouble, clapped-out economically, and is going to bring the west down with it, is the message that we see with monotonous regularity. The reality is different. Chinese GDP expanded a whopping 9.8% in the first three quarters of 2021, and major indicators are within a reasonable range.
Evergrande – caused by poor management and that is all and the Chinese government will both let them burn, and also make them take responsibility to Chinese people first. There will be no monopolies or other behemoth-type business structures in China that can challenge the state. The Chinese people come first. https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3152530/china-evergrande-crisis-caused-poor-management-exception?utm_source=rss_feed
(Evergrande has no option but to resume work and they did so today on 10 projects. There is no quick bankruptcy for them, and certainly no bail-out).
Chinese banks have foreign-currency deposits of $1 trillion for the first time, an opportunity for Beijing to liberalize the country’s capital account. A resilient economy and strengthening currency have attracted record foreign purchases of bonds and stocks while surging demand for goods meant exporters brought back more dollars. The pace of the influx has tested the authorities’ tolerance for a strengthening yuan, with the currency now near a five-year high against a basket of its peers.
Exports grew 20% in September, up from 15.7% in August. September’s gain was higher than the median estimate of 13.3% in a Bloomberg survey of economists. Growth in imports slowed to 11% in September from 23.1% in the previous month.
China-Korea semiconductor industrial complex starts construction amid Beijing’s push for tech self-reliance. The municipal government of Wuxi and memory chip giant SK Hynix have teamed up to develop the China-Korea Integrated Circuit Industrial Park. The city is expected to become home to 19 new semiconductor-related projects with a combined investment of US$4.7 billion.
A Chinese herbal formula for coronavirus patients is undergoing clinical trials in the US for possible approval for people with mild-to-moderate symptoms of the disease. Qingfei Paidu, most commonly called QFPD, is a 21-herb formula whose name literally means lung cleansing and detoxification.
China, which pioneered controlling Covid-19 with lockdown orders and tight border rules, will “wait and see” about adjusting its zero-tolerance policy. “We are discussing about the new strategy in China … everything is dynamic. We are ready for any possible reassessment”. (Please do not consider this comment and the previous as an open sesame to start discussing Covid on the Saker Blog. You all know the blog policy).
Between 1985 – 2019, the average height of a 19-year-old Chinese increased 3.5 inches, or 9 cm, supporting President Xi Jinping’s declaration in July that the country had achieved its goal of establishing a “moderately prosperous society” in time for the Party’s centenary. This is a result of a relentless project to bring the Chinese people out of abject poverty.
An important question in auto showrooms: Can I sing karaoke in this car? The only acceptable answer is yes, as Nio and XPeng know well. Western rivals are scrambling, “We’ve identified this as a challenge,” said BMW’s Christoph Grote, “Chinese consumers are the most demanding when it comes to digital technology in the car.”
The dreaded Social Credit System which is abhorred in the West by most that do not have an idea what it is about: China’s social credit system is more of a bureaucratic interface for existing legal and regulatory systems than the widespread Western perception of a dystopian algorithm that uses “big-data collection and analysis to monitor, shape, and rate individual’s behavior”. Social credit includes new enforcement mechanisms but is an extension of the law rather than an independent rule-making authority, and all data collection and penalties require a legal basis.
This was mentioned before but as a reminder. When the Chinese students started being hunted and haunted specifically in the US, all the major universities opened campuses in China (they could not afford to lose the Chinese money). For Harvard, it did not take too long to become part of the propaganda war on China and they are moving their Chinese language program from Beijing to National Taiwan University, replacing a partnership with Beijing Language and Culture University. Harvard’s Jennifer Liu said the decision was made because of a perceived lack of friendliness from the host institution, Beijing Language and Culture University (BLCU).
This gives a taste of what is happening in China and now we need to give the regular shout-out to Godfree Roberts’ Here Comes China newsletter that supplies these data points. Subscribe here – it is worth it!: https://www.herecomeschina.com/#subscribe
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In the next few China Sitreps, I will post a selection of documentaries and information on those aspects of China’s history that remain western talking points, whether correct or not. This is Tibet, Tiananmen, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, and the border skirmishes with India as a shortlist. Today we start with Tibet.
Tibet – if you have the romantic western mindset about Tibet, let’s revise that. Your knowledge most certainly comes from a book, movies, and a whole Shangri-La industry spawned in the wake.
Tibet was a dramatically brutal theocratic serfdom and never-ending debt peonage. Under the Dalai Lama in Tibet before China’s takeover:
- 98% of the population were serfs or slaves or kept in debt peonage.
- Disobedient serfs endured torture
- The 14th Dalai Lama’s family owned 6,000 serfs
- 95% of the population were illiterate
- In 2015: 0.52% were illiterate
- And in 2020: extreme poverty was eliminated in Tibet
From this documentary, you will learn that Tibetan Buddhism was not the sweet, and romantic Buddhist religion based on peace and high ideals and spinning colorful prayer wheels and praying in monasteries. It was based on the Indian Caste System where an extreme minority controlled the vast majority and kept them in abject poverty.
You will also learn why, on the death of a Dalai Lama (meaning God on earth), the successor, the soul boy was always found and appointed from a very poor family, in order to avoid any power struggles between the very few rich families. The connection with the Roman Catholic Pope will astound you. And then you will see brutal sights of religious and shamanic powers whipped into inhumane forces. You will learn that Dalai Lamas regularly fled Tibet, sometimes to flee British Forces.
Tibet was the first lever that was used by at that time British forces, and this lever was seamlessly taken over by the rest of the west, to break up China, even after some territory had to be given to Japan and some even to Korea. You will learn how the Brits just simply carved out pieces of Chinese land from the Indian side. This effort to break up China is still in full swing today, by the current hegemon in its frenzied dying attempts to own the whole world using weapons, war, lawfare, internal destabilization, the appointment of external presidents, propaganda, kidnapping of high officials, outright assassinations, drugs, biological substances, and poison. Of course from the 1950s, CIA involvement around Tibet is well documented even to training ethnic Tibetans in Colorado for a planned Tibetan revolution.
You will also see one of the reasons why China will not let itself be hegemonized today, specifically with its history of never fighting a war of conquest in its 4,000 years of existence. The population stands firm and resolute. Never aired footage in the west will have you take part in the joy when religions serfdom and debt peonage was abolished in 1959 and the Tibetan Religious Serfs could burn their debt peonage documents.
If your stance in life is ‘Free Tibet’, which mine was, once upon a time before I did my homework, consider if you were romanticized by the CIA and a novel called Lost Horizon (1933) by English writer James Hilton. Two movies followed (Frank Capra directing one), a Broadway play, and the world’s first mass-produced paperback, all called Lost Horizon, set in a fictional utopian lamasery called Shangri-La, high in the mountains of Tibet. ‘Free Tibet’ for you may just be based on the fiction of Shangri-La.
Shangri-La may only be a novel, but the post-9/11 La La Land that the AngloZionist Empire has been living in for the last two decades is very real. That the Empire is caput is beyond dispute. It has been deliberately brought down by the same forces of evil who were the real perps of 9/11. As Netanyahu bragged back in 1990, “America is a golden calf and we will suck it dry, chop it up, and sell it off piece by piece until there is nothing left but the world’s biggest welfare state that we will create and control.” How right he was.
The Empire’s MO has always been about domination and exploitation. Certainly, Russia and China know that. They’ve been on the receiving end of this aggression for centuries. It will be the greatest challenge before the world to somehow avoid the death throes of an empire that has it as part of its DNA to end human history in a cataclysmic Götterdämmerung. The Union of Concerned Scientists claims that as few as 100 nuclear weapons reaching their target anywhere on the planet would result in Nuclear Winter. On the bright side, that would be the obvious fix not only for Global Warming, but world over-population as well.
Tommy Apeiron, did you read this piece, or did you grab a piece of headline to link your continual schtick on?
If you cannot read between the lines or as explicitly stated, we’re changing. I do understand that a successful change to a multipolarity as described by Putin and Xi Jinping will break your schtick. Get with it already.
The rest of your wafflings have actually nothing to do with the speeches discussed and contrasted here, or with the progress. And there is progress. It is now stated, and now we can look at the actuality. (that is if we can lift our heads out of the beer jug at the bar!)
Thanks Amarynth, for very interesting SITREP!!
As for the dialog:
Jake Sullivan – “We wanna talk about Uyghurs, Hong Kong, Taiwan, human rights.”
Yang Jiechi – “No.”
Sullivan – “Climate change.”
Yang Jiechi – “Maybe. If you listen.”
Sullivan – “So we’re coming after you big time.”
Yang Jiechi – “Bring it on.”
Would be the same in Russia, just change Yang Jiechi with any Kremlin official and you will get the same :-)
Thanks again!
Thank you Amarynth!
This was refreshing and encouraging to read, China’s trajectory is reassuring.
This sit-rep is a measured and sobering review after hysteria of last weeks; it is most welcome.
I guess the B team didn’t listen to Yang Jiechi?
This Russo-China no-show at COP26 is a 𝙃𝙐𝙂𝙀 marker. It may break deals in process for decades. Remember in western timeline, the green new deal madness was supposed to take over the pandemic narrative. What do they do now, with 1/2 of humanity not playing ball?
Perhaps we will soon see joint Russo-Chinese patrols in Artic/N. Atlantic, if German industry is killed off this winter? It depends whether German industrialists can overcome their American political poodles, and activate NS2. Do or die time for Germany.
The great US-China decoupling gathers pace too: Solari Report recently brought to our attention that Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. bought land in Arizona, USA. May be too little too late, at current pace of events? This work should have begun in early Obama years (2009 when he announced Pivot to Asia), for effectiveness. China now has alternatives, and is itself innovating at warp speed (no pun intended).
https://stanton.house.gov/2020/12/north-phoenix-land-auctioned-wednesday-will-become-massive-international
The growth in Chinese height is shocking. It reveals the deprivation of their population after centuries of war and siege by West, as well as some failed experiments during 1960s. TPTB also do not want this example to be made elsewhere, hence the demonization of China and war on its model of development.
Also in future deconstruction of arts, please consider one masterpiece, with many layers, and one of my all-time favorite movies, Zhang Yimou’s 2002 epic Hero. It not only encapsulated Chinese love for stability but other key concepts beyond western ken. And the cinematography, music, acting, civilizational messaging… so rich.
I missed your sit-reps, bravo!
“Centuries of war and siege by the west?” 1835 to the present is not quite a plural.
There have been several unsuccessful trials of starting competing high-end semiconductor clusters, but all mostly failed, like in Indonesia, Scotland, Malaysia, India …
Check Asianometry channel on youtube for details.
I believe the same future most probably awaits Arizona investment.
The currency is strengthening b/c these countries cant pay their debts,(think trillion dollars owed) the host country adjusts the exchange rate and then the citizens (who do business in said country’s) enjoy the benefits or the misery of having to live by the new adjustments.
With price rises, tariffs, weakening currencies, labor shortages, its a wonder we are trading at all.
Amarynth, thanks for the good article and sharing Xi’s speech. We’re living through an epoch in the history of humanity. Change is the only constant.
It is great to see commonality between China and Russia’s vision. Finally, the Financial Empire has a good opposition and an alternative path in the world for multilateralism. Hopefully, many nations will awaken to join in the peaceful development of our world and building a prosperous global community. Let all nations be sovereign and serve their populace well!
It is great that China is transcending and pursuing “Common prosperity” through entrepreneurship and rebalancing towards consumption driven growth to reduce reliance on exports. Increasing incomes and improved public services, especially in rural areas, would be positive for its growth. It will be interesting to see results from Xi’s “dual circulation” strategy for economic development, under which China aims to spur domestic demand, innovation and self-reliance. China is investing $500 billion in just its semiconductor sector to own its destiny. Xi callls innovation the primary driving force of development. Ganchao – “catch up and surpass.”
Hopefully, Russia will pursue a similar strategy and invest to make the best of its well educated and talented population. China and Russia complement each other!
Nations would do better by learning from each other’s successes and avoiding mistakes. Unfortunately, the Empire’s media continues to frame China and Russia negatively and its Phony Ponzi Puppets are perturbed. Godfree Roberts has developed a good summation of how wrong the anti-China propaganda has been since 1990:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EckaZXmUMAAF8Td?format=jpg&name=medium
China’s common prosperity roadmap:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202109/1233098.shtml
248 Chinese companies with a Market Cap of Over $2.1 Trillion are listed on U$ Exchanges… It will be interesting to see what stratagem the Empire will pursue against these companies.
https://wallstreetonparade.com/2021/08/248-chinese-companies-with-off-limit-audits-and-a-market-cap-of-over-2-1-trillion-are-listed-on-u-s-exchanges-now-congress-demands-action-from-the-sec/
Yeah, not one word about Taiwan? Maybe he didn’t want to reopen old wounds that occurred at the UN – a history lesson from an old book by Dr. Willard Cantelon I have and cherish…
pgs 116 -117
The Justice of the United Nations
Foundations of the United Nations were laid by the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Soviet Union,
from August 21 to September 28,1944, in the Dumbarton Oaks Conference in Washington. Immediately afterward, the Republic of China became one of the five founding nations, and was given lifetime membership in the Security Council. Her population was larger than 3/4 of the nations who held membership in the UN. Even in Taiwan, she maintained diplomatic relationship with 60 countries of the world. In the field of commerce, she exported over a billion dollars’ worth of merchandise annually, and yet when Albania, with a population half the size of Philadelphia, made a motion that the Republic of China be expelled, the smaller nations rallied to the suggestion in a demonstration of emotionalism and bias that left a permanent blemish on the record of the UN. Ambassador Bush said on October 25, 1971,
“Never have I seen such hate.”
The late David Lawrence, respected news journalist and editor of the U.S. News & World Report, said,
“Can any nation be safe in an atmosphere of such irresponsible and emotional action?”
The Chinese leaders returned to Taiwan in tears. They carried with them a record free from blot or blemish. Their dues had been paid. Their position had been held with honor. But without a single grievance against them, they were expelled and not even granted the courtesy of being permitted to speak for themselves. Someone dared to suggest before their departure that perhaps Communist China and Nationalist China could each have a seat’ The pro-Communist block pounded their desks and shouted down the proposal. A few days later’ they.were willing to talk about two seats being given to both West Germany and
Communist East Germany, to sit side by side.’
@Gerry,
The Kuomintang did not treat the Chinese people kindly, why they were driven off the mainland by the CCP (Zhōngguó Gòngchǎndǎng). I’m not understanding why the losers of a civil war would be given a spot at the UN representing the country that drove them out?
@Amarynth,
Thank you for continuing to publish this column, the educational value for those who only see mainstream news is immense. On another note, another of the US’s Useful Idiots has been shut down. Amnesty International shuttered their HK ogffices.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/amnesty-international-close-all-hong-kong-offices-citing-beijings-oppressive-national
Cheers!
Gerry, Chiang Kai-shek and his Kuomintang (KMT) fought their own people, the rural Chinese while being partial to Japan, who also fought the Chinese. He lost the civil war, but the CCP was so tired of war then, that Chiang Kai-shek fled/or was allowed to flee/retreated to Taiwan, after some decisive battles in 1948, and was left in peace. They were not the rulers of China. And then we had massacres like the White Terror under his rule. It was brutal times but some were more brutal than others. You know, he was educated in Japan and did not really like his own people. He thought the Japanese were more refined.
I quote: “They carried with them a record free from blot or blemish. Their dues had been paid. Their position had been held with honor. ”
That is western waffle, because they did not like the communists either and would rather do ‘god’s work’ and kill them all. You need to go into this history before you talk about records free from blot or blemish. There was plenty. It was brutal times. Dr. Willard Cantelon was an evangelical Christian (if this is the right man and I think it is) who used religion for political purposes – Praise the Lord and Kill the Commies style while he leads the prayer breakfast in the US and ask for blessings for their bloodthirsty work. An odious pretentious man in my book.
Taiwan or the ROC was legitimately sent home as they had no standing at the UN.
O, please, amarynth are the communists the enemy of the human race or not? Cantelon’s book was published 1973 during the cold war and it is certainly anti-communist and for good reason. He shows and very clearly the treasonous nature of what is actually going on. About Russia at that time he says:
“Russia was spending more than a billion dollars on literature and propaganda outside of the USSR each year. The doctrines of socialism were not only being taught in the classrooms of the colleges, but were also being heard from the pulpits of many churches , and from the the pens of of religious leaders.
I wonder, i said to myself, how many Americans have studied the charter of the UN sufficiently to realize that it commits each member nation to a program of total socialism for itself and for all other nations. Alger Hiss was a major architect of the UN charter and served as the secretary general of the San Francisco conference for the organization of the United Nations. Twenty five years later, U Thant was quoted as praising Lenin as a political leader whose ideals were reflected in the United Nations charter.”
and:
“On March 26, 1959, Peter Chu Pong, former Minister of Nanking, China appeared before the house Committee of Un-American Activities, and testified:
“We were placed in classes for brainwashing. From morning till night they taught Communism. they wanted me to reject Christ and give up the church and admit the only God was Mao-Tse-tung, head of the Communistic Government.”
China? Warlords, Monarchy, Communists, Democracy and then Japan and the Soviets sticking their noses in where it doesn’t belong and who gets assassinated for his troubles? Song Jiaoren and Christ gets banished and his Church suppressed and murdered!
Lastly, western waffle? Really? As if anyone there at the UN including the glorious Chinese Communists were free from blot or blemish? Did you even read the entire quote and how Germany both East and West were granted status?
And an odious man. Wow, just wow! You stunned me speechless really. But where Evangelicalism is concerned there is no respect at all and so as that saying goes the baby gets thrown out with the bath water.
A shame really. Cantelon has plenty on hand to say even today. Maybe munch on this:
The Financial Record of the UN
“When the United Nations chose its headquarters on the banks of the Hudson River in New York, the American government loaned 65 million tax free toward the center. John D. Rockefeller, Jr. gave 8 million toward the land. They City of New York gave 26.5 million to prepare the site. The Ford Foundation gave over 6 million toward a library to contain 400,000 books. within a quarter of a Century, the expenditures of the United Nations reached 9.2 billion. Of this amount, the United states has provided 41%. the financial records in a single year revealed Americans paid 31.8% of the annual UN budget.
The picture grew more discouraging when one gazed at the financial records of a single year and saw that Russia was 66.9 million in the red. Apparantly not content to have the United States carry the heavy burden of the United Nations , the Russians wanted her to give even more. On Fridat, November 17, 1972, the Los Angeles times carried the article which read:
Russia urges U. S. to increase UN aid. The normally humdrum budgetary committee broke into oratorical fireworks… V.S. Safronshuk speaking to the General Assembly said, “The US should be assessed 38.4% instead of its present 31.5%. this brought U.S. Ambassador George Bush to his feet: pointing to Safronchuk, Bush asserted that his government pays 40% of the overall costs, those outside as well as inside the regular budget, compared with the Soviet’s contribution of 7%.”
A look at the program within the UN that was supposed to be carried on as a humanitarium effort for the needy of the wolrd UNICEF revealed in 1970 that russia gave 5.2 million compared to America’s 159 million. This meant that Russia gave 1.47% compared to America’s 45%.
Where, i asked myself, were the men who said the doctrines of communism were closet to those of the early church Christians? If the early church shared things in common, it was with the spirit of love which said, What i have is yours. but the doctrine of Marx and Lenin was as different from Christianity as darkness is from light . their spirit if greed and selfishness declared, what you have is mine, and if you do not give it freely, we will take it by force.”
Does this really sound like an odious man amarynth?
“O, please, amarynth are the communists the enemy of the human race or not? ”
No. There is good and bad everywhere. The ‘communists’ are people, made by the creator, just like you and I. Equal. They are not my enemy nor the enemy of the human race.
And for the rest, I have no shiny eyes on the actual workings of the UN. Both Lavrov and Putin say that it has to be reformed and we know that is urgently needed as there are many problems. What I do like is what humanity agreed as the rules we would live by in the world. And that is the UN charter. And in this, I agree with Russia and China. You know, this one:
WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED
to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and
to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and
to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and
to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,
AND FOR THESE ENDS
to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and
to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and
to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and
to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,
HAVE RESOLVED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE AIMS.
Accordingly, our respective Governments, through representatives assembled in the city of San Francisco, who have exhibited their full powers found to be in good and due form, have agreed to the present Charter of the United Nations and do hereby establish an international organization to be known as the United Nations.
Read it – perhaps you will like it. It is not ‘religiously confused’.
https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/CTC/uncharter.pdf
Read the Bible—the book and in particular Acts 4:35 and again at 11;29. Now take the Communist Manifesto and read its concluding comments ” from each according to his ability and to each according to his needs”. Either Marx is wrong or the Bible? However both are stating the very same social justice.
You are Wrong—the conclusion of the Communist Manifesto reads ” from each according to their ability and to each according to their needs” and oddly enough this is exactly how the Bible reads at Acts 4:35 and Acts 11:29. Read and think —now if you back to Acts 4 again there are a pair who sell land ( all was to be contributed ) but this couple keeps a portion ((( the invisible hand))) for themselves and both are struck dead—for stealing but more importantly for Lying –to the Holy Spirit. Now read about Christ in the desert and what was He asked to do from Satan who appears earlier in Book of Job stating “From walking up and down the earth and All that is in it !” —Summary —a lying hegemon bent on the culture of death. USA
“Tibet was a dramatically brutal theocratic serfdom and never-ending debt peonage. Under the Dalai Lama in Tibet before China’s takeover:
98% of the population were serfs or slaves or kept in debt peonage.
Disobedient serfs endured torture
The 14th Dalai Lama’s family owned 6,000 serfs
95% of the population were illiterate…”
99% of Americans are serfs kept in debt peonage; disobedient Americans endure torture; Bezos and Musk own tens of thousands of serfs; 99% of the American public is math and science and logic illiterate. I guess that explains America’s fascination and romanticization of Tibet.
Thank you for this sitrep. Outstanding information that turns on its head everything we are fed by the MSM on a daily basis. The lies about China and their leaders are nauseating. Many people including close friends I talk to agree that we are being misled by the MSM on so many topics. When it comes to China though, they seem to swallow everything that same media tells them.
I would like to add Matt Ehret’s name to the list of people with good and important information here. In a recent interview he was asked all the familiar canards about China, including ‘what about religious freedom’? Matt Ehret answers them all in a patient and nonconfrontaional way. The questions about China comes in at approx. the 54min mark;
https://canadianpatriot.org/2021/10/16/who-and-what-is-the-deep-state-sean-morgan-report-with-matt-ehret/
The Comprehensive Tiananmen Square Massacre Hoax Dossier;
https://canadianpatriot.org/2021/08/20/the-comprehensive-tiananmen-square-massacre-hoax-dossier/
Thanks again Amarynth for these China sitreps and all you do on this blog. There must be more hours in the day where you live. I have trouble understanding how you find the time for everything
Very good post Kurngle- you have it down pat –the ignorance of Tibet and confusion over the monks -they were not Christian monks but taskmasters who took out hostilities on any peasant at will -Dalai family was entitled and of course that Hollywood sensational movie about Heinrich Harrer in Tibet educating the young Dalai Lama in English but Harrer had been dispatched to the roof of the world to find proof that the swastika originated somewhere important and there it was –only thing wrong was that the Tibetan swastika had its arms reversed from the Reich’s. Debt was inherited in Tibet and in addition to enjoying 39 years of a miserable life as a peasaant it was well written and recorded by Anna Louise Stong who was American and present during this emancipation and her book “When the Serfs Rebelled” is insightful reading. Additionally Anna Louise Strong was first woman graduate of University of Chicago and her PHD thesis was “The Power of Prayer” and her father was Congregationalist Minister—. Her account of things in Tibet were first hand–her interviews objetive and her visits within the Monastery at Lhasa was most interesting–in particular where the peasants were tortured. Tibet was a miserable existence unless you came from one of the 14-15 entitled families –and the Tibetans were under a brutal theocracy prior to their emancipation.
Surprised that Russia and China have both decided not to attend COP26.
I guess they are tired of pretending to play the Climate Change game.
I wonder which other countries decided not to attend.
Thanks Amarynth for this indepth report and hidden gems.
Oz is shooting itself in the foot with its rabid anti-China stance.
Down here ‘Climate Change’ is now the 24/7 mantra… the other ‘topic’ is taking a back seat… for a while.
hope all is well w you, Babushka in Oz :)
dumbf dutton just made a declaration of war against china yesterday!!!
seriously? top pick by moriscum!!!
not even SamSugarDaddy would be that stupid and loose… guess china will hv to invade australia after all xD HA Ha Invitation accepted!!!
stay safe there dear :)
bwbs
p/s you did get the post that did not make it here right? dear Amarynth dear :p only 4u! REM Sleep REM sleep REM Sleep dear Amarynth dear :) one should always master the trigger points you know… esp at this times of war – seen and unseen, form and formless, gods and dogs!!! fightclub 2.0 or 16hr beauty sleep? sigh :( may hv to do sm ‘homework’ soon… sigh :( good one, VVP!!! ya thank 2u I lost sleep !!!
Yes, thanks for that document bwbs. It is eye-opening and I will certainly find time and opportunity to discuss it here. You did exactly what you planned to do, ;-). Again, there is a commonality with Alexander Solzhenitsyn (at least with what he said in his time in the west). Brilliant and thanks!
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stay safe there dear
bwbs
It is all well and dandy for the Communist China, with due respect, of course.
But as we all know, the demise of the West is not because the Chinese, Russian or for that matter Iceland are somehow “superior”.
No, the reason for the downfall of West is simply the Zionist domination of the Western countries. The West is robbed blind simply by eternal debt and forced mass migration from the dumbest parts of the world. If The West was still managed by nationalistic leaders, we could win 6-0 without any worries. China? Yes, why not co-operate with mutual respect, yes. But now all Western countries are managed by prostitutes, who sell their countries and their people to the highest bidder: The Zionist.
But no worries, the change is due just as well the old Zionist playground aka Soviet Union crumbled, so will crumble their pet, The West. And so help me God, let there be a leader, which will get rid of these prostitutes and their masters.
“Green hills immerse in the same cloud and rain. The same moon lights up towns however far away.”
Not just from these verses, but from the tone of the whole speech, it sounds as if coming from faraway, even to say from another planet, seeing the Earth as a beautiful place, not as a hole in the sky, in which people struggle following their narrow interests.
This is an overview of Chinese attitude to the life, the life on the Earth, showing us how China is big (great), in the sense of her lasting in time, huge as nation, as space where she lives on, and field of influence (I would say the field of geopolitical gravity), all of which give her a firm standpoint and right to consider such global issues, in that constructive way, with general views, advices and proposals how to settle the things.
Can we say that when one translates the speech of President Putin in Chinese, the outcome is the speech of President Jinping, and vice versa?
President Jinping speaks about difficult matters, but one can feel and be overwhelmed by his calmness, as being quite sure that we will solve the problems.
Also those which make problems, which are incapable, mentally weak to understand and follow these old verses President Jinping quoted.
Not saying a word about Taiwan is quite expected, showing that (and sending a message) the issue of Taiwan is already and undoubtedly solved, and all we should do is to wait the proclamation and celebration of that event. So much they are sure, or at least the show they are sure.
The real message is the next paragraph, which Mr. Amarynth felicitously places to be the next one, about first joint naval patrol in waters of the West Pacific. Then, why should we bother ourselves about Taiwan in the speech?
And the (one of) final nail in the coffin, “China-Korea semiconductor industrial complex starts construction . . .” When the crisis about semiconductor chips begun I just waited for the ace from the sleeve. You can’t beat those who “invented” Sun Tzu.
The film about Tibet clarifies my (long time ago) doubts about aggressive nature of Tibetan version of Buddhism. No one of us young could even think about Nirvana in that way.
That film on Tibet is a real eye opener. Fairly recently, Larry Romanoff had also written about the truth concerning Tibet and I have had to re-arrange much of my thinking after these two articles. Thank you.
Question: who presented Chairman Mao Zedong with a boquet of poems that lavishly praised the Chinese leader as “the timely rain to nourish the land”?
Answer: the Dalai Lama.
The Dalai Lama is a perfect hypocrite and opportunist. And, as such, has never achieved anything for his people.
Tibet will never be “free” from Chinese sovereignty for the simple reason that all of China’s great rivers that nourish its hydraulic agriculture have their source in the Tibetan plateau. Control of that watershed is an existential issue for the Chinese. End of story.
I sometimes wonder what the world would be like today if Mao hadn’t prevailed over Chiang Kai Sheck and his fascists. Whenever I do, I break out in a cold, terrified sweat. I could count the number of truly great persons in history on the fingers of one of my hands. Mao, for me, is number one.
Thanks for the post Amarynth.
Hello Amarynth
Thank you for this report. It’s refreshing to read a piece that cuts through the noise about “China’s tech crackdown”, “Evergrande debacle” and so on.
I’d highly appreciate it if you could provide some information about China’s population and ageing. Western media are continuously barraging about China’s population crisis.
https://youtu.be/zgDLl1tXd0s
It would be great to learn the Chinese perspective about this
Right now they have determined that the internet is dangerous for their youth,(it seems to be just fine for our kids though) and its making their vision possibly permanently messed up.
And as such have restricted internet use to a few hours a week, (how undemocratic), in a last ditch desperate attempt to turn this disability around so as to not have the whole of the country’s future economy collapse in a labor shortage situation.
The Chinese are always a little ahead of us technically b/c they were so far behind us mechanically. Our problem is that we fault them for the latter while simutaneously blindly ignoring the former.
Excellent analysis. Very useful to counter the constant anti-Chinese “news” we get in USA.
‘Tibet was a dramatically brutal theocratic serfdom and never-ending debt peonage’.
No Tibetan person would recognise this description (except from Chinese propaganda).
‘98% of the population were serfs or slaves or kept in debt peonage’.
Most Tibetans were poor farmers or nomads.
‘Disobedient serfs endured torture’
The Ambans forced this Imperial Chinese legal code on a weak Tibetan administration but it was never once applied (as it was foreign and non-Buddhist).
‘The 14th Dalai Lama’s family owned 6,000 serfs’
The Dalai Lama’s family changes with each generation, and in old Tibet these families were traditionally rewarded for surrendering a son with a noble rank and a modest estate. Serfdom is a European concept that doesn’t really translate to other cultures (unless all cultures are seen through a Communist lens).
95% of the population were illiterate
At least ten percent of the population were literate monks so this figure is incorrect.
‘From this documentary, you will learn that Tibetan Buddhism was not the sweet, and romantic Buddhist religion based on peace and high ideals and spinning colorful prayer wheels and praying in monasteries. It was based on the Indian Caste System where an extreme minority controlled the vast majority and kept them in abject poverty’
Buddha condemned the caste system, and based his religion on this principle. Have you actually read anything about Buddhism?
‘You will also learn why, on the death of a Dalai Lama (meaning God on earth), the successor, the soul boy was always found and appointed from a very poor family, in order to avoid any power struggles between the very few rich families’.
Ocean-like Teacher is perhaps a better translation. Dalai is a Mongolian word and this issue of reincarnation in high born families was really a Mongolian problem, because the Mongols wanted their Lamas to also be Borjigin princes. This produced a rather unstable government so these practices were eventually discontinued.
‘Of course from the 1950s, CIA involvement around Tibet is well documented even to training ethnic Tibetans in Colorado for a planned Tibetan revolution’
They briefly trained a few dozen Khampa as insurgents then quickly abandoned them. It was a half-hearted, budget operation at best.
‘You will also see one of the reasons why China will not let itself be hegemonized today, specifically with its history of never fighting a war of conquest in its 4,000 years of existence’.
Apart from invading, occupying and ethnically cleansing the sovereign nation of Tibet.
‘The population stands firm and resolute. Never aired footage in the west will have you take part in the joy when religions serfdom and debt peonage was abolished in 1959 and the Tibetan Religious Serfs could burn their debt peonage documents’.
I challenge you to find a single Tibetan in the world who will endorse this statement.
‘Free Tibet’ for you may just be based on the fiction of Shangri-La’
The sublime beyul of Olmo-lung-ring (a.k.a, Shangri-La) isn’t fictional for Tibetan Buddhists and Bonpo.
I also find these statements regarding Tibet a little odd as well. I did watch the movie that was attached to the initial post.
Don’t get me wrong, the economic miracle of the Chinese people in the last 40yrs is unparalleled in world history. I admire the history of the middle kingdom and regard books like the Tao Te Ching and the I Ching to be some of the greatest mind treasures in the history of the world. Who else in the world can boast the cultural heritage of the Tang dynasty? People like Du Fu and Wu Daozi immediately leap to mind for me. If I remember correctly it was in the Tang dynasty that China and Tibet delineated their borders. If Tibet isn’t a separate country than how is this possible? Isn’t it a fact that there are vast differences in language, culture, religion, and so on between the two countries? I can easily tell the difference in appearance between the two peoples as well. Is China going to claim Mongolia next because Mongolia was once part of China during the Yuan dynasty? Seems pretty absurd.
Lost Horizons was a pretty entertaining book but I think the inspiration comes for the legend of Shambala or Agarthi. Shambala is sometimes said to be in Tibet. The legend is somewhat similar to Avalon or Thule for Western readers.
Also very pleased to see the joint naval operation between Russia and China. I think Russia can help China and the world by deterring an attack by the Anglo-Zionist Empire.
It is usually quite futile to even get into conversations such as this. But what irks me is that these folks consider that writing an article such as this had no study behind it, and Chinese sources were exclusively used. That is of course not so.
This work initially come from English (Brits that lived there) and German sources. The English sources confirm what is presented here. The German sources studied documents and methods of signing with seals and fingerprints and so on, through the ages. That is where I saw the documents of selling and buying of serfs (no, not nomadic farmers).
Let me leave you with a few more points of data for your homework. Never replace Buddhism with Tibetan Buddhism – strawman.
“I challenge you to find a single Tibetan in the world who will endorse this statement.”
I challenge you to find them – because I did (but not in the Upstate New York Tibetan Community ‘in exile’. They are actually welcome to go back.
Then go to the Indian Tibetan populations and learn how the exile Tibetans are returning even if it is just for education.
Then move on the Chinese sources and first read The Noodle Maker of Kalimpong: The Untold Story of My Struggle for Tibet by Gyalo Thondup, the second elder brother of the Dalai Lama. A bit of an overview: http://m.tibet.cn/eng/opinion/editorial/201512/t20151203_5763867.html
OK, so we also have declassified CIA documents.
“Declassified CIA information report on Tibet, September 14th 1948:
“Population of Tibet is about 2 million. Of these 2 million, only about ten percent are pro-American, majority of them being wealthy & religious figures. The remaining 90%…hope for Soviet aid & liberation”
So, to that 90% – I’ve seen 90% (monks being literate), to 95% to 98%. Different periods. I picked the middle number.
But the one number that you cannot get away from, is that English sources consider the life expectancy in 1959 as 35.5years. Currently, it is 67 years. I guess those serfs with a life expectancy of 35.5 years were very happy at the time.
Then explain .. the Tibetan population has risen from fewer than 1 million in 1955 to 2.6 million today (with less than 3 percent of them Han people)
I’m done with this.
“But what irks me is that these folks consider that writing an article such as this had no study behind it, and Chinese sources were exclusively used. That is of course not so.”
I have no doubt that a lot of research goes into your articles. I read your Sitreps regularly and I appreciate them. I just think on the Tibet issue your not being objective. I wish this issue could be solved in a different way. I am sure the 14th Dali Lama and the Tibetan government in exile would be more than willing to make many concessions to the leadership in China. China wants to work together and create win-win situations, correct? I think it is possible.
The ‘Tibetan government in exile’ is still mainly supported by the CIA. These people are free to make representation to the Chinese government. But, the paycheck will disappear.
“According to his memoirs, from the late 1970s, he frequently went to India and Hong Kong to know what happened to the Chinese mainland and the Chinese leaders’ attitude towards Dalai. He was received by Deng Xiaoping, Xi Zhongxun, Ulanhu and other leaders in Beijing. Deng was very broad-minded and put forward many policies for the overseas Tibetan compatriots, such as “all patriots belong to one big family, whether they rally to the common cause early or late” and “having freedom to come and go and letting the past be forgotten”. “Xi Zhongxun, Ulanhu and other leaders are very kind and polite to me. We often had very pleasant conversations.”
Tibet is an old story of imperialism. We don’t need objectivity, we need the historical record told as accurately as possible. People usually freak about Tibet – because the real story is so very different from the western story. For example, people cannot understand that Tibet was an open sesame for 2nd WW criminals.
It is not a new story. We see the very same themes re-appear for Hong Kong and now Xinjiang.
“We don’t need objectivity, we need the historical record told as accurately as possible. People usually freak about Tibet – because the real story is so very different from the western story.”
Objectivity is much needed actually but I agree the historical record should be told as accurately as possible. With all due respect may I ask you a question? What is the basis for the claims on Tibetan land? Are they historical from your pov? Now I understand the water and hydropower issues in regards to Tibet and China’s security that someone commented on earlier but isn’t that a little similar to hydrocarbon security and a country like Iraq?
Kind regards.
@Greifenberg thank you for you keen interest and whole lot of good question. Unfortunately dear amarynth dear is not a standing committee of the CCP, so nothing she said here is gonna be ‘good enough’ for you. good enough?
suggestion: when the opportunity allows, visit the place, in person. speak to the local ppl there, eat their food, drink their local brew, and then mayb you will be ‘enlighten’. its Tibet after all, lots lots lots white ppl go there to be ‘enlighten’ :) just ask the fightclub guy Brad Pitt. he made a white movie there too!!!
bwbs
Vajrayana (Tibetan) Buddhism is actually quite distinctive in relation to Buddhism as a whole. Do you criticise Saker when he examines Orthodox Christianity in isolation?
Please ask your Tibetan source to post here. I daresay there are some collaborators, in exactly the same way as there are in Palestine, but I’ve never heard one speak openly.
As for the notion of ‘Han’ I’m afraid this is a completely made up concept. There are as many ethnicities in China as there are in Western Europe.
China officially recognized 56 ethnicities.
Amaryth I understand your frustration but the opposition (MSM) is strong due to repetition so to break the spell you also need repetition. Small personal example . I know the Skripal story and I watched a series on Netflix and boom I started to doubt again and went back to reassure myself that this was a false flag. I never understood the repetition by a lot of the bloggers of what was said before but now I think it needed to keep the spell away. I will try to do more of that repetition myself like others so it is not only a few but many that help.
You are a star with an intellectual capacity that I envy in the good sense of the word. Keep converting.
Dirk K
Hajduk, many thanks for putting the other side of the argument. It makes me realise how little I really know about these large, important topics.
I now see that my prejudice against the idea of Tibetan autonomy from Chinese rule is based on my prejudice against Anglo Capitalist rule; because if the Chinese moved out of Tibet, the Anglo Capitalist Empire would surely move in again. There are too many Anglo Zionazi Capitalist Colour Revolutions around the world, holding out enticing Freedom Cookies to every small disputed nation on earth — except to Palestine.
Sure are sensitive on this issue Mr. Lin. Perhaps in your heart you know there is something not quite right. I meant no offense but rather hoped for a different conversation. I love China and the Chinese people but maybe on this one issue there are some differences. Strangely, enough Covid restrictions stopped me from visiting China recently. Maybe if I am able to go in the near future we can have a nice conversation and some beers. No need for threats of violence, I’m just a regular guy.
Gentlemen, the matrix has you. Any souvenirs you may have from the U.N. gift shop will be worth big money very soon as collectors’ items. WWG1WGA
”5 Chinese vessels and 5 Russian destroyers and frigates accompanied by six carrier-based helicopters made passage through the Tsugaru Strait (which caused Japan to run for the Prozac).”
According to https://www.drugs.com/prozac.html:
Looks as if the Japanese had already taken the stuff by the time the Chinese and the Russians showed up. Pretty much explains the mindset of all reactionary populations around the planet, LOL.
On a more serious note: What’s most inspiring about the speeches is their restraint accompanied by practical determination and resolve. Small wonder NATO pulled out of Afghanistan despite the untapped mineral wealth and the profits from the opium trade. Taiwan will soon be unceremoniously annexed right in front of what passes for the ”rules-based order”. Prozac prescriptions expected to grow rapidly.
You state it very well. It is noticable – that restraint accompanied by practical determination – and the resolve that is standing up high! This is kinda the first time that I’ve been excited about the world in some years. It’s like in a sense we’re done with crawling through sno’drifts and we see some light appearing over the horizon.
No doubt I’m a ‘splittest’ and a ‘tango dancer’ as well (that devastating insult the PRC applied to Chris Patten). Due to it’s blood-soaked karma the PRC will collapse in less than fifty years so there is really no need for a Palestinian type campaign in Tibet. By copying Western imperialism in Tibet and elsewhere the PRC has sowed the seeds of its own destruction
Fat Pang (Chris Patten) is a contemptible Vatican zealot who has been working against China (and Russia and Serbia) his entire life. Why would you bring that piece of detritus into the discussion? His existence justifies almost all Chinese policies.
Geez, I thought Tibet would be the least triggering of all the western talking points at this stage. But I see people cling to their beliefs. Go and learn some folks. What is going to happen if we consider Tiananmen Square next and you learn the real story there? And that one needs some nuanced understanding.
To the Chinese friends here, we welcome you, but please don’t threaten. I understand dealing with the western cadres on these issues is very difficult. Forgive them, they are propagandized completely. So, give your input with no threats, please.
So a few comments: Let’s stop the irresponsible statements that Han does not exist or the Manchurians are extinct. It is just irresponsible dogmatic doctrine that does not fit on the Saker site. Discuss.
Please … comments such as the Tibetans will be ethnically cleansed has no support, and those that believe in that, will believe that the Uighurs are being ethnically cleansed which is nonsense as well. It does not stop … people are being so-called ethnically cleansed, but there are no corpses, there are no people fleeing from this cleansing and life is quite fine for the minorities in China. These come from those that believe that “Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.” It is the same old western talking points, the same old propaganda, the same old story of internal destabilization. These folks also find it terribly difficult to read simple numbers of growth of these communities.
The Tibetan population has grown, they are not being cleansed.
For those that ask about land claims, this is historically a long and arduous research. Some of these are considered in the video that I posted but not all. I cannot make a list easily of which treaty, which agreement happened because we have a history reaching back into the 800’s. These are old societies. Though modern time’s rejection of slavery and China’s reaction to that also played a part as well as the CPC establisment and acceptance of governance values, fully considered in this article.
But here is a long document called a white paper, that tells the story. It also tells of the supposed Tibetan exile community and their CIA and Indian support. Don’t forget that India stole land from China, with the help of the Brits (or the other way around) but that is also a longer story. As this paper says, The End of the Old System Was a Historical Inevitability.
Free Tibet is a political slogan. And some fall for it. And they get quite triggered if one rips it open. Anyway, this will not be quick or easy to read.
http://english.www.gov.cn/archive/white_paper/2015/04/15/content_281475089444218.htm
Let me restate the objective here of all these China pieces. The anti-China propaganda in the US is at a terrible fever pitch. Our friend Jeff J Brown made a video in the last few days, comparing and contrasting western headlines with those from China. He rightly says it is like looking at the world from different universes. People do not necessarily get access to any different material and they cannot see China as a civilization with people and problems and joys like the rest of us. I saw recently a new poll was taken and over 50% of USA’ians are now in favor of attacking and making war against China, should China ‘take’ Taiwan. The historical understanding is extremely weak and the propaganda continues unabated. It is war propaganda, and we see things like the Chinese are bugs with a bug society (not understanding a socialist driven society where the wellbeing of the whole has more of an importance than the wellbeing of the individual and we can write a book about that!) and China is destabilizing the US with the focus of taking it to grow food for the Chinese people. I kid you not, this is the stuff out there and much much worse.
So, in reality, my objective is to present the part of China that I understand as a thriving and growing and huge country and there are people inside of it that bleed red like you and me. So, in the background, these are anti-war pieces. Let’s keep the commenting as such as well.
Although I support China wherever I have a chance when people tell all kinds of false stories about China. I differ on Tibet.
Whatever was the condition in Tibet, nobody in Tibet asked the Chinese to come and “deliver” them. China had no business invading Tibet and destroying precious artifacts and oppressing the people there. Now there are more Chinese in Tibet then Tibetans.
bernie says: “… destroying precious artifacts and oppressing the people there”
And where is the evidences for these claims? (note: CNN and BBC’s mudslinging and fake news not counted, of course). I don’t believe you or anyone has evidence for that.
On the other hand, there are plenty of evidences, including video and testimonials from witnesses from Westerners who have visited Tibet to show that Chinese are actually helping to promote Tibetan culture and traditions: e.g. Tibetan language is being taught in school (which was out-of-bound for 95% of Tibetan before 1960s), Tibetan arts are display and practiced, Tibetan music are broadcasted…., In fact, one of the video shows that, it is only through financial supports and efforts of Chinese government, some of the most precious Tibetan arts and artifacts could be preserved. The following is just a few of the video. There are of course many more from many people:
1. Visiting a Tibetan Middle School: note how some of the students were using Tibetan language to explain the science projects, learning Tibetan calligraphy. Notice the signs are in dual language everywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSWaFsLgEpU&feature=emb_logo
2. Visiting Tibetan Herdsmen in rural area:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ANXZIFbGs&feature=emb_logo
3. Into Tibet – A Search for Local Barley Spirits (note how many folks still speak their language)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Ke7RswAPQ&feature=emb_logo
4. Interview with a Living Buddha (活佛) Spiritual Leader at Tashi Lhunpo Monastery. Understanding how Tibetan practice their religion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMWxIrEHGlg&feature=emb_logo
5. Traditional Tibetan Hospital Visit – Shigatse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1z6ngQRqsE&feature=emb_logo
6. Tibetan Life During the Dalai Lama’s reign:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA-CZcBSf08
If you are really concerned about Tibet, find out the truth. STOP repeating the lies from Western media – they don’t have the real interests of Tibet in their hearts. Your effort would only hurt the ordinary folks in Tibet.
Tibetans obviously lack the resources to mass produce these kind of videos, so their viewpoint is never heard.
If I had a penny for every time I’ve seen the PRC roll out a bottled ethnic minority, complete with plastic garments and ‘authentic’ folk dances…
So what if the PRC teaches Tibetan in schools….should the Tibetans be grateful? I daresay the tuition of Arabic is also permitted in Palestinian schools.
As for your ‘living buddha’ he’s a state nominated party official with no prior experience of religion, and in classic PRC style he’s also the son of a party boss. Tibetans unanimously detest him and long for the return of their real living Buddha who was disappeared into a concentration camp many years ago. The fact that you are seemingly unaware of just how controversial the Panchen Lama is in the West strongly suggests that you are actually writing from China ‘d dan’.
I’ll admit the PRC has upped it’s game in terms of propaganda skills, and removed the frothing spokesmen of former times, who ranted on about ‘splittists’ and ‘tango dancers’, but it still falls far short of the level of propaganda skill that is required to successfully indoctrinate educated Westerners. So back to the drawing board ‘d dan’.
Hajduk says: “Tibetans obviously lack the resources…”
Of course, you think you know better than those people (including thousands of Westerners) who visited, study and live in Tibet. Do you even know there are many Tibetan millionaires, Tibetan celebrities, Tibetan scholars (within and outside China) and professionals who agrees with PRC.
Hajduk says: “PRC has upped it’s game in terms of propaganda skills…”
This is a sweeping statement attempting to discredit everyone that disagrees with you. Since you have provided no evidences to support your claim, I don’t see there is any need for me to say more because there is nothing to rebut.
You write so much but say so little. Your bias and lack of objectivity are self-evident for most readers to see.
Tibet ,off and on,throughout it’s history has been connected to,or part of China.In the last centuries it’s been a part of China. The short period when after the Chinese overthrew the Qing and China descended into chaos was when for a short time Tibet claimed a quasi independence. But as soon as China recovered ,she reclaimed Tibet. At one time Bavaria wasn’t part of Germany,Wales wasn’t part of the UK,and Texas wasn’t part of the US.But today they are all part of the larger countries.I see Tibet in that context, a unique province no doubt,just as those others are,but still a part of China.
In Western China there is (or perhaps was) a tribute pillar that the pre-Buddhist Tibetan Empire forced the Chinese to build. Was China part of Tibet at that time? There is also the Mongol Empire which absorbed both China and Tibet (before they too became Buddhist pacifists). So are both countries rightfully Mongolian?
It’s quite a complicated subject, even just the ‘priest-patron’ relationship would take an essay to explain. What is clear is that China’s claim over Tibet is grossly exaggerated (there was no actually word in Tibetan for a China that includes Tibet).
As for your analogous states, I don’t think that Bavaria or Texas are really comparable (as both are nearly identical to their neighbours). Wales is a perhaps a better example because even seven hundred years after being conquered by England they remain unabsorbed and anti-English. Currently, about thirty percent of the Welsh seek independence and this figure is now climbing rapidly. My hope is that the Tibetans will someday have the same opportunity but due to Sinicization and Chinese settlement this is probably a forlorn hope.
Did you forget that I said “Tibet ,off and on,throughout it’s history has been connected to,or part of China”. You mentioned some of the times Tibet was not a part of China,but was still “connected” to China.
@Uncle Bob. I accept your point that China and Tibet have been brotherly neighbours since remote prehistory, and that larger nations frequently invade and absorb smaller ones. In this sense Tibet’s inclusion in China is fairly normal and I’ll even admit that in the very long term such a unity may bring benefit to both. However I can never accept the brutal and bloodthirsty manner in which China has invaded and occupied this peaceful nation. Invasion for geopolitical reasons is perhaps understandable, but genocide is another matter.
Hajduk says: “you mean nothing that you are able to rebut.”
You offer zero thing for me to rebut. No evidence, no argument, no logic, no facts…. just personal claims.
Hajduk says: “PRC has upped it’s game in terms of propaganda skill”
— d dan says: “This is a sweeping statement attempting to discredit everyone that disagrees with you”
—- Hajduk says: “nope, it’s a simple statement of fact. ”
Nope, the so-called PRC “propaganda skills” is NOT the original topic of discussion. We were talking about “destroying Tibet artifacts and oppressing the people”. You offer that “point” because you want to sweepingly discredit everyone that contradicts your view without taking the trouble to do so. Most readers can see that.
Hajduk says: “Just give them their country back, ”
Again, zero support. Just your personal assertion. No country in the world today recognize Tibet, ZERO, NONE, NULL, including your country (whatever it is). Go figure.
@ everybody
In 2018, Ramin Mazaheri wrote an essay titled ”Once China got off drugs: the link between opium and ‘liberal strongman’ Macron”. Hajduk dismissed the complicity of the British in the disaster which their opium — produced by Indian peasant slave-labour — deliberately set off in China with this little word salad:
”The opium wars were actually a struggle between conflicting interests in both China and Britain. When the British government tried to suppress the mostly Scottish smuggling families (because the trade was destroying Indian agriculture) the plan was blocked by their Chinese business partners (principally the Chinese Imperial Customs) who threatened to end all British commerce if they interfered with the trade.”
A clear case of the ’blame-the-victim’ approach in typical Anglo-Zionist fashion. To which Hajduk now is adding the slanderous allegations about Chinese ’abuses’ past and present in Tibet. I think we can safely conclude that Hajduk has a weak spot for Western imperialism in general and its anti-Chinese manifestations in particular.
It’s nice that the author’s pals are backing her up, but all these ad hominem comments are really a bit disappointing. My ‘agenda’ in Ramin’s article was that the Opium Wars were much more complicated that his article suggested, because (as in all history) there are several versions of the story. However, if you prefer a simplistic good and evil dualism then that’s your choice…in which case ‘China…good’…’Hajduk …bad’.
”My ‘agenda’ in Ramin’s article was that the Opium Wars were much more complicated that his article suggested, because (as in all history) there are several versions of the story.”
Of course there are ”several versions of the story”, but that’s not necessarily making things ”much more complicated”. It just takes a little bit of effort to see what stories are mostly based on lies and half-truths and what stories are mostly factual. In the case of the British Empire’s atrocious misrule in India and the repercussions from it in China by opium smuggling and warfare to keep the Chinese hooked, it’s actually an effortless exercise. Your sophistry is fooling no one here.
Nussiminen says: “Hajduk … deliberately set off in China with this little word salad: ‘The opium wars were actually a struggle between conflicting interests in both China and Britain….’ ”
Wow, thanks Nussiminen for pointing this out. (Edited,please do not insult fellow posters,MOD)
Opium wars were not just a conflict of interests nor some trade disputes. It was an act of immoral violence contradicting the basic principles of humanity, in ancient times as as well as today. The following is some basic history:
Several Qinq Emperors were alerted of the harmful effects of opium. In 1729, Emperor YongZheng issued the first Edict to prohibit the selling and consumption of opium. However, foreigners continued to push for the sales. In 1796, Emperor JiaQing issued further Edict to ban the importation opium. To circumvent the Chinese law, the “Honourable” (yes, this was part of the name) East India Company stopped selling opium directly. Instead, it forced Indians to plant more poppy, developed purer opium, and setup processing plants to cater for Chinese market. It then distributed licenses to multiple British merchants to smuggle opium to China, which made enforcement much difficult, and let to surges of opium uses in China within a short period of time.
Flood of Qing court officials voiced serious concerns and proposed draconian actions against selling and uses of opium. The most famous (but not the only one) was Lin Zexu. By then, of course there were also corrupted Chinese officials who wanted to maintain their profitable status quo with British, but Emperor Daoguang was astute and determined enough to issue the most sweeping ban in 1839. After arriving in Guangzhou, Lin Zexu tried to persuade British merchants to top the illegal trade voluntarily. He even wrote a letter to the Queen to reason with moral ground. The recalcitrance of British forced Lin’s hand and let to the destruction of large opium stock.
The Qinq was consistently serious about stopping opium, but the British used its technological edge, its sanctuary of Indian plantation and processing centers, and connection with corrupted officials and criminal gangs within China to stay in the game in every steps. So, Qinq finally decided to go directly against the source: the British merchants. To Emperor Daoguang and Lin Zexu’s surprise, British went violence and started a war.
So this was a gross violation of China’s sovereignty and an utter act of international thuggery disguised as “trade disputes”. It takes extreme moral depravity to defend the wars.
Kunta Kinte wasn’t netted on a beach by evil white men, in real life he was sold by his own tribal chief in exchange for rusty flintlocks and trinkets. In the same way the Opium Wars were a collaborative effort between organised criminals in both China and Britain. I understand that these facts are rather uncomfortable, but the notion that these Scottish criminals somehow managed to cover all of China’s vast territory singlehandedly is simply not credible. The long tradition of opium smoking amongst wealthy Chinese people is also never mentioned, because the idea of poor Chinese people buying this (now cut price) drug as a tragic symbol of prosperity is much less palatable than the simple narrative of ‘evil white men’ forcing drugs on hapless natives.
Hajduk says: “Opium Wars were a collaborative effort between organised criminals in both China and Britain. ”
Still trying to obfuscate. The Opium Wars were immoral wars started by British EMPIRE on China to impose the illegal drug trade against Qinq’s government. Period.
Hajduk says: “the long tradition of opium smoking amongst wealthy Chinese people is also never mentioned”
Yeah, smoking the opium that China banned very early on, but the British ILLEGALLY imported and pushed it, which let to a surge in its uses. When China got fed up and destroyed the goods, the British violently started the wars with the sole purpose to continue the profiteering.
Hajduk says: “the idea of poor Chinese people buying this (now cut price) drug as a tragic symbol of prosperity”
I guess you are suggesting that the poor Chinese people should THANK the British for the cut price drug. What a desperate and deprave argument.
Hajduk says: “‘evil white men’ forcing drugs on hapless natives.”
Yes, with gun boats.
@Hajduk
I laid out the net and now I’ve proudly reeled you in. You switched instantly from your ”poor oppressed Tibet by bad China” hogwash to ”Britain was not the only instigator of the Opium wars”. Terribly sorry, but imperialist apologetics rarely add up. If the Chinese had done to Tibet what the British did to China (let alone India), then you could be said to have a point but you have none whatsoever. The reason why you just can’t stop your trolling is because the truth hurts you badly.
Bottom line: Tibet is Chinese as Taiwan also will be shortly. Deal with it.
bernie, I get what you say. Respectfully, hear me out.
China did not invade Tibet. Tibet belongs to China. Ok, I can give you a raft of technical documents but let’s just talk.
Tibetans are free to travel. So is most everyone in China and can decide where they want to live.
I am happy that women are not any longer beasts of burden, that children do not sleep huddled next to animals in winter just for warmth with straw pulled over them (first hand accounts we have in the literature), monks just beating kids with sticks and masses of starving beggars. The story that precious artifacts were destroyed is made way bigger. I am happy that monks may no longer beat the lesser classes. I am glad that kids have schools to go to and that there is health care (I don’t know what kind). There was a war – some things got destroyed – the war was started by the Dalai Lama mainly because they had to change the issue of slavery and the Lamas did not want to or give up any power to the serfs. Good gracious, they found torture rooms in monasteries where the monasteries became only the military headquarters of one or the other strong man. We have hundreds of first-hand accounts and Tibetan video creators have made hundreds of videos.
A friend of mine spent a month there just recently. He lives in China. He made about six videos with locals. I don’t like the ‘Hollywood’ization’ methods of the Chinese people, but people are not hungry, they are free of abject poverty and the region now has a fast train so that their goods can be distributed. It is always a balance and this one for me was worth it. It may be different for you.
We have to look at the situation there and there are different values on the oppression of people. At the moment they are free people, in an Autonomous region, free to come and go, free to travel, free to cross borders and with the ability to pay for it now.
Dear Amarynth
Wish you could talk to some Tibetans that managed to escape after the occupation of Tibet. Tibetans have everything now except Tibet.
‘What is going to happen if we consider Tiananmen Square next and you learn the real story there?’
In comparison Tiananmen Square is quite straighforward (and not in the way that you imagine).
‘To the Chinese friends here, we welcome you, but please don’t threaten’.
These spotty keyboard warriors, who are like mewling kittens in real life, seemingly become roaring lions when they’re anonymous and online.
‘So a few comments: Let’s stop the irresponsible statements that Han does not exist or the Manchurians are extinct. It is just irresponsible dogmatic doctrine that does not fit on the Saker site. Discuss.’
Since this is your article you should expect to be questioned about your many unsubstantiated comments. Do you have any evidence of surviving native Manchurian speakers, or of a genetic identity called ‘Han’?
‘For those that ask about land claims, this is historically a long and arduous research.’
That leads precisely nowhere (because it’s fact free propaganda).
‘So, in reality, my objective is to present the part of China that I understand as a thriving and growing and huge country and there are people inside of it that bleed red like you and me. So, in the background, these are anti-war pieces. Let’s keep the commenting as such as well.’
My view is that the Communists have consistently betrayed and destroyed traditional Chinese culture and religion. So my argument is that the PRC is a hybrid of some of the worst aspects of Occidental and Oriental cultures, and therefore not really Chinese at all.
This guy must think I’m his foil for arguing ideological cockamamie arguments about communism.
Thanks, but your invitation is hereby declined. I just have no interest in irresponsible statements and your ideology. Its futile.
Let me quote a very good friend: “Unfortunately dear amarynth dear is not a standing committee of the CCP, so nothing she said here is gonna be ‘good enough’ for you. good enough?”
You seem intent on bundling any criticism of your highly controversial opinions into a kind of imaginary bugbear, that is the sum of all Western evils. Obviously, as a lifelong communist and Sinologist, who is critical of the PRC, I don’t exactly fit into your tidy categories, so it plainly easier for you to dismiss your imaginary bugbear than is for you to actually address these valid concerns.
@hajduk
since you are a confessed ‘lifelong communist and Sinologist’
… then you know you should and can and should hv ways to take it Direct to CCP in china.
valid concerns should be heard, right? you want to contribute and change the world right?
be there! see you in BeiJing!!!
bwbs
He cannot my friend as he is not Chinese. He cannot get a hearing there.
This is what we have;
2021-07-30 07:19:21 Hajduk
Taiwan doesn’t belongs to the PRC, and neither does Tibet. Pepe’s commentary is rather imbalanced in that it focusses on US colonialism in the Middle East but glosses over China’s exact equivalent.
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So, hates the CPC or the CCP, says Taiwan and Tibet does not belong to China, so, what do you think we have here?
Personal attacks don’t cover up your failure to answer any of the points raised by commentators.
Oh no, not a personal attack. Just making clear what your stance is. I know most of the commentators here you know. And I was wondering why you are not giving anyone else an opportunity to express their opinion without you mocking them and being provocative. It will be much easier for everyone if they know.
I answer everyone’s questions if I know, but not yours. Because of your advancing your agenda. This, in my view, does not make for good conversation or discussion. Let’s make it clear once again. I am not in the least interested in your ‘very important issues’ because they are yours. If you feel strongly, go and write up something and offer it to The Saker as a submission. Really, go call someone who cares. But we now understand why you choose the end topic of Tibet. I don’t like agendas – seems to me like trollery and believe me, I’ve seen hundreds at this blog over the years.
As a staff member you can easily ascertain that I’ve been part of this community for some years and during that time I have consistently opposed the bias of certain contributors towards the PRC. I appreciate that the rapid decline of our own Western nations prompts us to look for better alternatives elsewhere, but China really isn’t the answer. In different ways they are just as bad as us.
My slightly combative comments are a direct response to your attempts to smother these alternative views, and also your failure to answer the points I’ve raised. You also failed to answer Greifenberg and Bernie. If you rely on dismissive personal attacks instead of reasonably defending your statements then you should expect your stated views to carry little or no weight.
@hajduk
again, pls do come to BeiJing someday when allowed…
to my understanding all sinologist has to be accredited and approve by CCP ministry, I am now curious as to where and which institution approve your ‘lifelong communist and Sinologist’?
but I am sure we can sort it out over a pot of good chinese tea (while they check up your credentials, via quantum computer if light speed is needed there, in case of bot-profiling plenty of that these days)
hopefully it is not the case, like these days, those who graduated from yt 10min self-style course, then suddenly become a corona expert in the field… god forbid it involves 30 pieces :( thats really bad karmic seed :(
BeiJing awaits you!
Today’s Xi-led CCP welcomes constructive opinion :)
and yes, every opinion is valid, but only to one self, the one who speak and cannot muster awareness of self-correct!
bwbs
p/s criticism w no substance is embarrassing stupidity laid bear, agree?!
”I saw recently a new poll was taken and over 50% of USA’ians are now in favor of attacking and making war against China, should China ‘take’ Taiwan.”
Yes, China will annex Taiwan which it absolutely should do. The moronic majority population in the US will rage and fume to no avail. All the US plots against China — Tibet, Xinjiang, HongKong, Beijing — have failed resoundingly. By annexing Taiwan outright, China will prove it has the power and determination to put an end to artificial states that only exist because of Western interference, past and present. It would be very suspicious if this wasn’t greeted by noisy temper tantrums thrown by the average Pindo, LOL.
Yes, .. it absolutely should. I have a favorite time period (and bet with myself). I think the olympics will first pass (if the tension can be held at bay) and then we will see action.
I am not one of those 50%. I don’t want to die to keep the rainbow flag flying over Taiwan or so buttsex will remain legal there. China can have it if they can take it. I imagine it will be quite costly.
That being said, the same hands pull all the strings. China’s fate will be the same as the US’s once it is used up. The usurious central bankers will continue to run the world, to everyone else’s detriment, until we quit fighting amongst ourselves and do away with them.
Thanks for posting the White Paper link. It saves a lot of time as I now understand what the talking points are going to be. I readily admit that the Western world is heavily indoctrinated but now it is very clear to me that Chinese society is equally so.
Really, you understand all the talking points into the future? After reading one document I’m impressed. I don’t even know them. I’ve studied China for some years and came across the Tibet issues early in 2000. And I still don’t understand all. How many Chinese people have you spoken to to try and probe their level of indoctrination? Do you even know how very exceptionally large their social medias are and how much they chat and confirm and report? Greifenberg, oh boy … let me be quiet now :-)
I think we have a bit of a misunderstanding. This “whitepaper” is like a script that you are likely to follow in any conversation in this context. I understand so there is no use in continuing any conversation with you on this issue.
The Western world also has a vast social media and chat platform and is still completely indoctrinated into a certain point of view. It all sort of becomes an echo chamber and a hug box (groupthink mechanism). Then there is the censorship issue. I’ve practically been kicked off most platforms beginning in the late 90’s over the Palestinian issue, for example. Fortunately this hasn’t happened yet to me on the Saker site. I know what the moderation rules are and do my best to follow them. I have not been treated in a underhanded way here.
I have two words for you … Highly Likely.
I’ve given you some historical data that can be confirmed. My thoughts are my own and never have they been of the ‘highly likely’ generation.
Thing is, people do not want to consider that they may have to change their views. For that, I can make no excuses. We are into a massive change in our world (Xi Jinping and Putin, and many others).
But saying what I will follow as a script into the future is laughable. First, you don’t know, and second I don’t even know being allergic to scripts and all that.
OK, fair enough.If you wish to have a very civil conversation on this issue I am willing. As I understand the Chinese position it is believed that Tibet has been part of China since at least the Yuan dynasty and annexed Tibet in order to liberate Tibetans for a theocratic feudal system. Is this correct?
I’m going to be busy until tomorrow morning so please don’t be alarmed if I don’t respond right away.
Greifenberg, I don’t have time to devote to a specific conversation. All I can say, is please take that document that I posted and write down each and every agreement. You’ll soon see the progression. You should end up with something called the 17-Article Agreement, which the Dalai Lama broke. You’ll figure out how slowly China wanted to bring Tibet into the Chinese system, giving them all the time in the world, but, they would not let go of their slavery and serf system. And then things went to shit when again the Dalai Lama’s forces started the small war. So, you can then once you have the bones together, start comparing and contrasting with other information. That is basically how I did it long time ago, and the one book that I would recommend for you is Godfree Roberts: Why China Leads the World: Talent at the Top, Data in the Middle, Democracy at the Bottom. This I recommend because it is not so dry and factual, and the way he wrote it is interesting .. starting from a ‘value’ (perhaps a Confucian value) and working through seeing how that value is put into practice today. Easy and interesting reading. He has much information on Tibet in there.
Sorry, but current events now must take priority for me.
No problem at all. Current events are also very important to me at the moment.
Best wishes.
Excelente información. Esclarece dudas que la literatura de occidente, en especial, proveniente de los países anglosajones; suelen desinformar. Gracias. ¡Quita la venda de los ojos!
Fighter jets are flying from Japanese carrier decks for the first time since 1945. It does not take a soothsayer to see what it is coming. Taiwan has the bulk of the world’s semi conductor foundries. The computer chips made there are vitally important in every major industry, especially the military sector. These foundries are costly and take years to build before they can stark turning out chips. The reality is the whoever controls Taiwan possesses a significant advantage in the near term. The U.S. relies on smart weapons more so than China, and would likely run through its reserves in a matter of months in an open war with China. Currently, Taiwan is the key/weakness to US power projection. It will remain this way for at least a few years. The US knows this, and China knows this. I would expect a showdown over Taiwan to come in the next 2 years if it comes at all. Past that, it should be less crucial as I expect both the US and China will have enough semi conductor factories at home to meet their military industrial complexes’ requirements.
This is the core of the issue of the current debacle. Your call is perfect.
sorry Rick Sanchez C-197 thats totally off… sigh :( guess the white media didnt report this either… didnt they advertised this to be ‘national security’ grade?
anyway cant go into it now, sorry :(
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> Just don’t let us catch you on our land, if you dare….
Jingoism rearing it’s ugly head. Already. Next stop is Fascism. Hope they don’t let him loose with an AK.
Since cutting and pasting government pronouncements apparently counts as evidence in this commentary, here’s one from the Tibetans themselves…
‘China’s relentless destruction of religion in Tibet saw the demise of over 6,000 monasteries and countless religious artefacts. Even today, China see the Tibetan religion and culture as the main threat to the leadership of the Communist Party. China’s Third Work Forum on Tibet in 1994 and the Fourth Work Forum in 2001 have called for an array of measures to wipe out the vestige of Tibetan religion.
Denouncing Tibet’s Spiritual Leaders
Forced to denounce His Holiness the Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama recognised by him, Tibetans must pledge their allegiance to the Chinese government. Failure to do so can result in imprisonment or other forms of punishment. Possessing an image of His Holiness the Dalai Lama is today illegal in Tibet.
Since May 2005 Beijing has stepped up its efforts to attack the person of His Holiness the Dalai Lama by declaring a “fight to the death” struggle against him. Many describe this new round of vituperative campaign against the Tibetan spiritual leader as a throwback to the era of the Cultural Revolution.
In July 2007 a new regulation was introduced, according to which all incarnate lamas or tulkus must have state approval. As well as usurping the power to recognise the Tibetan spiritual figures, Beijing hopes — through the implementation of this regulation — to rule the land and people of Tibet through state-sponsored lamas or tulkus.
Population Transfer
The continued population transfer of Chinese to Tibet in recent years has seen the Tibetans become a minority in their own land. Today the six million Tibetans are vastly outnumbered by Chinese immigrants, who are given preferential treatment in education, jobs and private enterprises. Tibetans, on the other hand, are treated as second-class citizens in their own country.
Under the guise of economic and social development, Beijing encourages the migration of Chinese population to Tibet, marginalising the Tibetans in economic, educational, political and social spheres.
The railway line between Gormo and Lhasa, which was officially opened in July 2006, has given further impetus to this vicious policy of flooding Tibet with Chinese migrants, and thus making it demographically impossible for the Tibetans to rise up as in the case of Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang. It is estimated that the railway brings some 5,000 to 6,000 Chinese to Lhasa everyday. Out of these, 2,000 to 3,000 return to their homes in China and the rest of them settle in Tibet indefinitely. If this trend continues unabated, it will not be long before what many perceive as Beijing’s “final solution” to the question of Tibet will have achieved its desired goal.
Education
Chinese occupation of Tibet has seen the Tibetan language surpassed by that of the Chinese. The government is repressing Tibetan culture by making the language redundant in all sectors. Tibet’s education system, controlled entirely by the Chinese and their Communist ideology, is geared to suit the needs of Chinese immigrants. Tibetan students also suffer from prohibitive and discriminatory fees and inadequate facilities in rural areas.
The deprival of meaningful education in their own homeland has forced well over 10,000 Tibetan children and youths to escape to India, where the exile Tibetan community offers them educational opportunities unimaginable in Tibet. The records of the Tibetan Reception Centre in Dharamsala reveal that from 1991 to June 2004, the Centre had hosted a total of 43,634 new arrivals from Tibet. Out of these, 59.75% were found to be children (below the age of 13) and youths (between the age of 13 and 25). In 2006 alone, some 2,445 newly-arrived Tibetans were received at the Centre, majority of them being children below 18 years of age. The sole purpose of such a large number of young Tibetans fleeing their homeland — and more often than not negotiating a treacherous journey across the Himalayas — is to obtain a decent religious and secular education in a country far away from home.
In monasteries, Chinese government “work teams” are being sent to forcibly “re-educate” monks and nuns in their political and religious beliefs. Their methods are similar to those imposed during the Cultural Revolution. The “strike hard” campaign between 1996 and 1998 saw 492 monks and nuns arrested and 9,997 expelled from their religious institutions.
Zhang Qingli’s arrival at the helm in the “TAR” in May 2006 led to the scope of the “patriotic re-education” campaign being expanded from the confines of the monasteries and nunneries to encompass the wider population in Tibet, including schools. The main thrust of this campaign is to re-orient the Tibetan people’s religious faith and belief by requiring to pledge their opposition to His Holiness the Dalai Lama’.
There is massive war propaganda being disseminated against China and this poster here obviously supports it.
And now we get a bunch of cut’npaste from the ‘government’ he says, which is really only the exiles who refuse to do anything for their own country and are not a government. They call themselves one though.
What is needed, what is the one thing that makes a country a country? does anyone know? It is actually a very simple thing, and it is recognition from other countries at the UN.
Tibet has never ever been recognized as a country by anyone else. So, they are not a country. They belong to China. There is also the issue of de jure and de facto .. Tibet belongs to China in fact, and in law with documentation stretching back to the 800’s. It is a complex history at least for me, as I’m not so up on what they did in various dynasties. The document that I posted above allows one to go through and check all the major agreements through millennia, but someone else must do a list there. I don’t have time or interest.
The cut’npaste actually breaks site moderation policy but I’m glad it slipped through, because again it illustrates the type of propaganda continually spewed out against China that is now at a fever pitch. It is war propaganda because it makes the other guy into a bad guy. One of Romanoff’s articles on this blog explained this well, with pictures from before the 2ndWW.
But we can just compare this propaganda with the existent propaganda and we have all heard it. Take a look
– No freedom of religion – yet, from within Tibet they have freedom of religion. But in China, things are different in terms of religion. The Uyghurs seem to be doing well.
– Tibetans must pledge allegiance to the Chinese State (well, that would be just normal, not so? I had to do that for the country in which I live)
– Re-education camps (are we not hearing the same on the issue of the Uyghurs? Same old propaganda)
– Makes it impossible for the Tibetans to ‘rise up’. OK, that assumes they want to rise up. Far as I know, they don’t want to rise up.
and so it goes .. boring repetitive western propaganda that we’ve seen a bunch of times.
I did not plan on going here, but let’s see what is really happening to the exile Tibetan communities in India. They are becoming an embarrassment to the Indian government and they are losing privileges. Bear in mind they have no real status in India. The communities are becoming smaller and smaller with the youth going somewhere else, and in many cases back to Tibet. They live in 37 different settlements and 70 scattered communities, with some having some status as refugees from the Indian government and others being displaced, undocumented people.
Presented in the propaganda is the idea that Tibetan children go to the exile communities to study. Well, that is a two-way street. They go to Tibet to study as well but that is creatively left out or ignored.
They are beginning to be referred to as the ‘sympathy stock of the world’. If you want to engender sympathy, talk about the Tibetans. If you want to spread a climate change message, get Greta Thunberg to speak at your event. If you want to engender sympathy for your cause, get a Tibetan to speak at your event. It’s political, all of it, and I’m afraid the exile Tibetans are running out of sympathy because of their very own actions.
The Tibetan Indian community is dropping like flies. “Over the last seven years, the Tibetan refugee community in India has dropped by 44 percent, from around 150,000 in 2011 to 85,000” and the diaspora out of India continues. In the last two years or so, hardly 100 Tibetans moved in per year. (They must be fairly happy there in Tibet under Chinese rule cause they’re not running).
But the exile communities are not doing their share. The so-called Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) that purportedly looks after these migrants, is not spending a penny to regularize anyone’s status. Like they did not care for the serfs in Tibet itself, they are doing nothing for the exile community but they are quick enough to take any money that comes in. Some people are classified as migrants in India and some are displaced people without documentation. The CTA does not lift a finger.
India is tired of them because of being a geopolitical embarrassment now, and most of the rest of the world is getting tired of them.
So, this Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) cannot quantify (don’t want to quantify) how many are going back to Tibet. Some just cannot return, for lack of documentation. 100 in per year over the past two years, and at least 100 out, back to Tibet, and others to other countries in almost an escape.
You know what happens when you join one of these communities (first-hand information), first they want to know your financial contribution and this is like a pledge and they hammer you if you cannot.
awwwww… dear amarynth dear get posted and mine didnt show up here? why? mine was way more kosher than hers!!!!! so not fair!!! this is the 2nd post!!! totally kosher!!!
anyway dear amarynth dear tibetean has strong member representative inside CCP and they are v keen to voice their daily living concern there!!! Mostly about more money to dev their sub culture education there and tourism stuff, nothing of religion or human right stuff! and the fact their population and living qiuality, like XinJiang, also double or tripple since the forced exile! Fact check that!! white ppl!!!
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Tibetans have never had things so good as what they enjoy today, Come and experience or better yet come here for 5 years and know the people–their past–their struggle- their emancipation and then you can understand what was and what Hollywood wants to convey —Truth versus Fiction.
‘Free Tibet’ is a major talking point now among usual NGO’s servicing the ‘Rules-based order.’
It is part of hybrid war leading up to imminent Beijing Olympics, and overall maligning of China.
It is easy, sexy emotional hook for Westerners already conditioned by decades of Hollywood movies staring the top stars.
The Uighur issue is fizzling (and not supported by most Muslim nations, or Uighurs themselves), HK/oligarchs/celebs are corralled, and Taiwan is too sensitive – a last casus-beli-type card to use, so Tibet may be the chosen “golden-child” of current provocations.
It doesn’t have to be true, or make sense; it is a way to derail the positivity of Chinese Olympics, keep anti-Chinese animosities simmering, and prepare mass psychology for the final Drang Nach Osten.
Expect it to get worse.
https://m.journal-neo.org/2021/10/27/to-prove-china-is-a-global-threat-us-threatens-global-games/
Abolishing slavery and serfdom, getting running water and power, schools and hospitals, is seen as destroying traditional culture and betrayal by some people here. One would hope that it is just out of ignorance, and not their world view. The upper Clergy and the Land owners looked at it as destruction and betrayal naturally. The serfs ie. the majority, saw the Chinese as liberators.
In 2002 I attended a talk by Michael Parenti, the acclaimed academic historian. This was right before the Iraqi invasion and the endless noice about weapons of mass destruction. During Parenti’s talk it felt natural for me to nod my head in agreement until the end when he in passing brought up some unpopular truths about the Dalai Lama and Mother Theresa. Have to admit I did experience a severe case of cognitive dissonance. He emphasized over again what we all know: whenever you see or hear someone repeatedly being put on a pedestal by the MSM, be sceptical. The reverse is also true. When you endlessly hear about a certain person painted in a bad light, be equally sceptical. I believe many people have a certain world view just because that is the only version they have ever heard. This because of the censorship by the MSM, censorship by omission.
Below is the essay Michael Parenti wrote some months later, that gave me my first education about the true history of Tibet:
Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth;
http://www.swans.com/library/art9/mparen01.html#01
Tibet, China and the violent reaction of a wealthy Elite;
https://historicly.substack.com/p/tibet-china-and-the-violent-reaction
Heavens, I never knew that Michael Parenti wrote these. Thanks siljan.
And generally, take a look at the ‘terrible repression of religion in Tibet’.
Only one of the main newspapers writes a very supportive article on the Panchen Lama receiving his equivalent of ‘doctorate’ in Tibetan Buddhism sutras.
We also find that he is a member of the Standing Committee of the National Committee of the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference, the country’s top political advisory body and vice-president of the Buddhist Association of China, and president of the association’s Tibet branch.
So, a highly educated man, fully integrated with the Chinese governance system but the 600 year old religion seems to be thriving. Repression? Yeah, Yeah, I know all the backlash here. They are being allowed to flourish because the CCP wants to control them or, its just for tourism, or this Panchen Lama has sold out to the state, or a bunch of more comments such as this. Knowing a bit about China though, I think if this clearly supportive news was considered bad for the people in the aggregate, it would be ripped out. Obviously, it is considered positive.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202110/29/WS617b2f9fa310cdd39bc71f78.html
Anna Louise Strong was in Tibet when it was liberated and her book “When the Serfs Rebelled” is very good reading and gives direct first hand account of the poverty, illiteracy, poor condtions, the monks with whips up their sleeves, inherited debt and a miserable life expectancy of 39 years. Dalai Lama and family were theocrats and with 15 entitled families ruled Tibet with tough measures —eye gouging, severing leg tendons, crushing fingers being routine and the inherited Debt was designed to keep the peasants poor and subdued. Read Anna Louise Strong – first woman PHD from University of Chicago– her father was a Congregationalist Minister –her PHD thesis was “The Power of Prayer” but today—in USA —Anna Louise Strong is not read or taught and this is a Real shame—Truth over-ruled by fiction and nonsense