Russian news sources are reporting the President Putin has chaired a meeting of the Security Council of Russia, the highest national security advisory board to the Russian President tasked with coordinating national security policies. The SCR heard a report by the Chairman of the State Duma, Sergei Naryshkin, and the Chairwoman of the Federation Council, Valentina Matvienko, about their consultations with Vladimir Konstantinov, the Chairman of the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea.I expect that this type of “consultations” with leaders of the eastern and southern Ukraine (the areas in blue on the map) will become more frequent
as the situation worsens in the rest of the country.
Yesterday, the governor of the region of Kharkov, Mikhail Dobkin, gave a long press-conference in which he outlined the measures taken by this region in response to the developments in Kiev. Among other things, he declared that:
1) He had ordered the recall of the local Berkut forces from Kiev because he could not order them to go into combat against snipers without carrying their firearms.
2) Local authorities are conscripting volunteers in a regional defense force tasked to support the local police forces in case of any attempts by the nationalist insurgents to penetrate into the Kharkov region.
3) A number of documents have been per-approved which could be submitted to the local population in an emergency referendum if the nationalists seize power in Kiev.
4) The regional authorities are prepared to take over the functions of the central government, if needed, and to begin self-financing the region (the Kharkov region is the richest of all the Ukrainian regions and for years its revenues were used to finance the western regions of the country).
5) The local authorities were prepared to declare a state of emergency in the region and were ready to defend it by force of arms.
Dobkin also explained why so few eastern Ukrainians were seen in Kiev’s counter-demonstrations on the so-called anti-Maidan. He said that unlike the nationalists who could count on limitless US-supplied monies to cover the huge expenditures needed to bus in a support the nationalist insurgents in Kiev, the eastern Ukrainians had to travel on their own initiative.
All in all, I am encouraged by the latest news out of Crimea and Kharkov and I think that I am beginning to discern the strategy these regions are planning to use to deal with the nationalist takeover in Kiev.
First, they will rely on local police forces supported by local militias to protect their regions from any invasion from the West.
Second, they will take over the functions of the Central Government and self-finance themselves.
Third, they will engage in intense consultations with Russia to coordinate their actions and obtain support when needed.
And make no mistake, while apparently purely “defensive” this strategy has a very “offensive” component to it: for decades the eastern and southern Ukraine has been feeding and financing the western regions and by cutting off their financial contributions for the Central Government the eastern and southern regions are essentially de-financing the nationalist regions (which are dirt poor to begin with). If Napoleon (or Cicero – depends on who you ask) is correct, and money is the nerve of war, then by self-financing themselves the southern and eastern regions could wage a most effective economic war on the nationalist insurgency. And that is a strategy Russia could, and I think should, back.
Should that not be sufficient, the south and eastern Ukraine appear ready to secede and declare their independence.
The crucial aspect of this strategy is that it completely bypasses the “Yanukovich problem”: instead of counting on him to do something reasonable, this strategy has a ready response to each of his possible capitulations to the nationalist insurgents ranging from taking over some functions of the Central Government to complete secession and independence. And this is also a strategy Russia can support, and not only on a Federal Level, but also on the regional level between the western regions of Russia and the eastern regions of the Ukraine.
So far, the Crimea and the Kharkov region appear to be in good shape. I am much more worried about the Dnepropetrovsk city and region which is much further from the Russian border and which will find itself on the frontline of any East-West conflicts. This is a big city (over a million people) in which the nationalist insurgents probably have many local supporters. This city and region will inevitably become *THE* key prize for which both sides will desperately fight. This could become the “Ukrainian Sarajevo”.
The Saker
Hello Saker,
another qquestion will be the adhesion to NATO, there has been in Moscow with french deputees and russian people Pouchkov etc, the russian answer was very clear no.
@Pour la Syrie: the Ukraine in NATO? Yes, if the lunatics in power in the West have their way, it will happen. Not for military reasons, the Ukraine brings *nothing* to NATO which, really, has turned into a political organization with very little real military relevance. And it is for political reasons that Russia would be so opposed to it. NATO is not longer the military alliance of the Cold War era, it has become a dominium of the AngloZionist Empire, a commonwealth of European colonies of sorts, and giant figleaf which allows the US to speak of “coalition” of “international community” and all that kind of nonsense. Psychologically, it would remove the last remnants of the historical Ukraine and replaced it with something like an ‘eastern-rite Poland’ or a ‘bigger Latvia’: basically a giant US protectorate on the Eurasian landmass, with a few “Camp Bondsteels” thrown in. On a social and cultural level, it would really crown the complete subordination of the Ukraine to Uncle Sam and its nationalist minions in the western Ukraine. Just imagine the kind of political and social tensions between Russia and the Ukraine under such circumstances. Finally, it would only encourage NATO to push even further, further and further. The Ukraine in NATO is not really a military problem, but in political terms, it would be a neverending disaster for Russia. This is why the Russians are so opposed to it, I think.
Cheers,
The Saker
I will repeat predictions I’ve made in comments to your post on Jan 26, 2014:
“In the framework I am using, this cave-in by Yanukovich was expected and predicted. I can elaborate the arguments, if there is interest. Here are a few additional predictions for the near future, based on the same framework (some of them are completely opposite to your conclusions, which means that our frameworks are incompatible, but they will be tested by unfolding events via these predictions):
– There will be no wide scale civil war.
– There will be no partitioning of Ukraine at this point (and Crimea will not try to separate).
– Yanukovich will end in complete surrender, but may survive politically in some capacity like a leader of a parliamentary fraction.
– He and government will be replaced by puppets fully controlled by the US. Tymoshenko is a good candidate and here I agree with you that it is likely that she will be released and will become the next president of Ukraine.
– EU association agreement will be signed in the next few months (certainly by summer).
– South-eastern Ukraine will suffer a strong economic decline in the next few years, which will reduce its influence in Ukraine’s internal politics.”
Predictions in items 3 and 4 are being confirmed by current events. The rest (which are opposite to what you predict) will be tested soon enough.
So where do the oligarchs stand in this scenario? Anyway, are they really independent, or are they just fronts for the Rothschilds?
Paul
@Paul:So where do the oligarchs stand in this scenario?
Split. Some will gravitate towards Russia, others will continue to finance the nationalists, most will probably cut and run with their money (the Ukraine is about to jump into a financial abyss).
Anyway, are they really independent, or are they just fronts for the Rothschilds?
I think that there are less conspiracies out there than collusions and, objectively, the interests of the local oligarchs do coincide with the ones of the Rothschilds: to try to hurt Russia as much as possible, especially to get rid of Putin. He is their common arch-enemy whom they hate and they fear.
Cheers,
The Saker
The question is that Klishko Iatseniuk and Tiagnibok are sitting in Timoshenko armchair, the powers of presidency are limited, so they will fight between them. I don’t see how such a goverment can achieve something good. Also the militias rejected the agreement, and do they control them??
I noticed also Lukine didn’t sign the agreement!
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Early elections Ukraine’s internal affair – Lukin (Part 2)
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Ombudsman: Russia was too late joining in efforts to end Ukraine crisis
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Rada passes bill allowing Tymoshenko’s release
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LAVROV TELLS ASHTON EU SHOULD CONDEMN UKRAINE RADICALS
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24 deputies quit Party of Regions faction
EU are moving fast and certainly the little Danish rat, Foggy Ratmussen (NATO):
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Lukin to continue consultations over Ukraine resolution (Part 2)
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Lukin to continue consultations over Ukraine resolution (Part 2)
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Rasmussen meets with Ukraine envoy to NATO
From what’s happened so far, I rather wonder if Yanukovich will use his still-remaining powers to fire any governor who looks like helping his region resist the surrender and make its own arrangements with Moscow.
What effect do you think this will have?
Alec
1st time poster here, but a (very impressed) reader for some months. Love your work, Saker.
How realistic is the option of constitutional federalization to help to diffuse the situation?
As Chernobyl lies within the part of the Ukraine the fascists will likely carve off, I wonder what will happen with that region. Given the criminal way in which the zionazis have treated their other “conquests”, they just let them go to hell afterwards, I have serious doubts those elitist sods will give much of a damn about properly maintaining the containment of that nuclear facility.
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It looks like the south-eastern regions are preparing in a way close to what the Saker predicted here. These article spell out very similar preparations being proposed there right now.
Ukraine: Yanukovych will sign new Verkhovna Rada bills – presidential adviser
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_02_22/Ukraine-Yanukovych-will-sign-new-Verkhovna-Rada-bills-presidential-advisor-3635/
Thousands gather for rally in eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkov
http://rt.com/news/thousands-gather-eastern-ukraine-252/
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I was wondering how long it would be before the zionist Jews running this terrorism against the Ukraine moved on to attacking religious targets, like they have their “al qaida” terrorist do in the ME and southern regions of Russia.
http://rt.com/news/kiev-clashes-rioters-police-571/
Sunday, February 23
01:56 GMT:
“Armed protesters surrounded the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra on Saturday, also known as the Kiev Monastery of the Caves, a historic Orthodox Christian monastery under ecclesiastic leadership from the Moscow Patriarchate, Ruptly news agency reports.
Around 70 armed militants reportedly surrounded the church establishing patrols that made sure no one enters the premises. The militants demanded that the church be under direct control of the Kiev Patriarchate.
Together with the Saint Sophia Cathedral, the cave monastery which was founded in 1051 is part of the UNESCO World Heritage Site and is the center of Eastern Orthodox Christianity.”
While the nazis being used by these zionists are outspoken about their anti-semitism, I’ll bet they will pretty much physically leave the Jewish people and their institutions alone. Much like their “al qaida” rarely terrorises Jews or Israel.
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Hello Saker,
Thanks a lot for your informing essay. You quote Israel Shahak about life in medieval Ukraine. May I mention another informative essay on that era, and its possible influence on what happened later in the Ukraïne: “Holocaust and holomodor” by Nicholas Lysson.
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2009/05/26/holocaust-holodomor-origins-of-anti-semi?page=2
I also remember reading Yuri Slezkine about the holomodor. He describes how Russians (often jewish) went into Ukraïne to tell the farmers that it was absolutely necessary to give all the grain that they had to Russia. One of these men, Lev Kopolev, later wrote that he understood that this meant the dead of millions but that he nevertheless considered it his historical duty.
All present day Ukraïnians have heard about the holocaust on their parents and grandparents from the victims themselves.
I think this is also a huge reason for anti-semitic and anti-Russian feelings in the western Ukraïne.