For parts 1, 2 and 3 see here: A short course in Ukrainian history
For part 4 see here: History of Ukraine, part 4
For part 5 see here: The history of the Ukraine, part 5
Saker Message:
For parts 1, 2 and 3 see here: A short course in Ukrainian history
For part 4 see here: History of Ukraine, part 4
For part 5 see here: The history of the Ukraine, part 5
Hi Saker, this is off topic. I was wondering if you are just away for a while or if this is the way the new blog is planned to be. With you away.
It would be nice if you could put a thread up where we could tell you our thoughts on this new blog.
Ann
Here it is, I found the request for Comments one
/new-blog-request-for-comments/
no way.
by the way, this is a fantastic russian song…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DWPJTlcee8A
The famine that affected the whole USSR was mainly caused by drought and wide spread sabotage. It was exploited by nazi propaganda that invented a “genocide” myth by using fake photographs. The stronghold of Ukrainian nazis Galizia was not(!) affected by the famine because it was not part of the USSR at that time. It is being falsely used by Ukrainian nazis as an excuse for thier collaboration in the nazi genocide. In contrast to that people in the areas of Ukraine that were affected by the famine offered fierce resistance to the nazi invasion.
“Their [kulak] opposition took the initial form of slaughtering their cattle and horses in preference to having them collectivized. The result was a grievous blow to Soviet agriculture, for most of the cattle and horses were owned by the kulaks. Between 1928 and 1933 the number of horses in the USSR declined from almost 30,000,000 to less than 15,000,000; of horned cattle from 70,000,000 (including 31,000,000 cows ) to 38,000,000 (including 20,000,000 cows ) ; of sheep and goats from 147,000,000 to 50,000,000; and of hogs from 20,000,000 to 12,000,000. Soviet rural economy had not recovered from this staggering loss by 1941.”
– From page 101 of “Fraud, Famine and Fascism The Ukrainian Genocide Myth from Hitler to Harvard”
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/special/library/famine.htm
“As part of this larger propaganda campaign the German Ministry of Propaganda created a story about a Soviet program of genocide in Ukraine. This was all part of the larger German plans to not only put down Communist support in Germany, but justify later invasions to the east under the banner of “liberation.”
The Germans manufactured stories about the famine in Ukraine and used false photographs to depict the famine conditions as worse than they really were, including pictures from a 1920-22 famine in Russia during the Russian Civil War and pictures of famine conditions during World War I of regions that were not even Russian.”
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/articles/rise_of_american_fascism.htm
Where are the comments from the old blog??
When researching certain current topics with Google or other search engines, one often gets hits to relevant things that appear inside a comment of a Saker post.
As I was researching some things related to MH17 today, I came upon one such hit, something that was in a comment. I clicked on it and realized with horror that all the comments seem to have disappeared from the old blog. I hope this is a temporary situation and that they are not gone for good. There was a huge amount of extremely valuable information in many of those comments. It kept appearing in search engines because it was being exchanged. Even if only one comment in 10 was valuable, that is a very large amount of good information.
If this cannot be solved, it is a monumental loss.
We will look into it. Meanwhile, we migrated all the comments to the new blog. It may be a bit harder to find, but if you have a date from that search result, you can find the thread it was in. There is a list of posts by date at the left under “Saker Archives”. Once you have the post, use browser search (“Find”) to get the actual comment.
Why do I ‘still’ read the Guardian?It has become a parody of a newspaper,and severely tests my inclination to throw my laptop out of the effing window.The brits commenting on Russian articles are complete headbangers masquerading as sane people…They have no interest in finding sources of truth,but the bbc is ‘wonderful,renowned throughout the world’.God ,if they really knew what the world thinks of them and their beeb.
Good day Saker and to all seekers after truth,
I just completed the last of the six episodes of the History of Ukraine and I would like to thank you for pointing this to us and express my gratitude to Jimmie Moglia for his excellent summary.
I do not believe that many people, especially in the West, understand the significance of current actions in Ukraine. In brief, we are witnessing a major event that will change the face of humanity. Professor Moglia summarizes it all in the final 10 minutes of Part 6.
There are two different cultures in our world and they are incompatible. There is no doubt in my mind that the spiritual “Soul” mindset of the East will prevail over the imperial materialistic “Sell” culture of the West. Moglia’s summary at 24:41 of Part 6 is a treasure.
His explanation of the connection between the fascist/nazi phenomenon and the past bourgeoisie and also the current “1%er” is also simple and to the point. It helps understand the current wave of Fascism/Nazism flooding the world and the role of the western countries in helping Ukraine.
The point of this comment is to encourage those who may be hesitant to make the step and watch all episodes. If you do not have the time, at least watch part 6: at a minimum watch the last 10 minutes of part 6.
NB: I followed one of Jimmie Moglia advices and bought a copy of the e-book Doctor Zhivago (Not the movie).
A serious research based on archive materials done by Mark Tauger on the causes of the 1933 famine. If you did not know, the study existed, it is almost impossible to find it under the piles and piles of fake research:
http://www.as.wvu.edu/history/Faculty/Tauger/Tauger,%20%27The%201932%20Harvest%20and%20the%20Famine%20of%201933,%20SR%2091.pdf
Even assuming for sake of argument that the information of Tauger’s article is correct,
implying a very widespread and complex famine phenomenon not confined only to Ukraine
and Ukrainians,—still, I am aware of no evidence that Stalin’s regime appealed to international aid
for all the starving citizens, and I believe that grain was still being exported presumably to pay for heavy factory machinery in order to industrialize Russia [whoever was insisting on grain payments
while people were starving would also be complicit in the famine]. And there is consensus that
around that same time of famine, there was a pogrom and massacre of Ukrainian culture and
of Ukrainian cultural elite, including members of the Ukrainian Communist Party who were also
massacred/purged by Stalin and his enforcers for the offense of “bourgeois nationalism”. By definition, being Russian and speaking Russian and adhering to Russian culture was not a “bourgeois” type of nationalism, so the Russians did not have this additional type of purge and pogrom coming at them, for being “nationalists”.due to their identity and roots. The Tauger article
would state that the Ukrainian genocidal Holodomor was included in something even broader,
that the stalinist “vanguard” ruling the USSR was almost, one might say, on a mission to just
generally depopulate the territories that it controlled. It was something like the Khmer Rouge would later behave in Cambodia.—So then why would things be so crazy, that so many
Russians still idolize Stalin,—as crazy as it would be for Cambodians/Khmers to still idolize
Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge because they were ferocious and kicked out American influence
and were also, incidentally, very nationalistic, using the Angkor Wat image of ancient Cambodian glory on their flag, etc. But big deal, they almost wiped out the entire Cambodian population
in their extreme stalinist purges [exterminations] of “undesirable” and “inferior” social and economic classes.
Let us take things one step at a time:—
This whole distinction between “soul” and “self” is a contradiction that is minor in importance.
Far more significant, in my opinion, are the following contradictions/distinctions:—
There exists a rather concrete observable way to distinguish between an intellectual component of human consciousness and an emotional component. It involves the influence of music. That part of human consciousness which responds automatically without any mediation or hesitation to certain musical chords is the emotional component. That part of human consciousness which does not respond automatically and directly to hearing musical chords can be named intellectual.
There appear to be only three major documentable fundamental ways for humans to function both as individuals and collectively-socially:—1) the way of the “kingdom of heaven” both within and among humans, being through creativity in liberty and peace within oneself and with others, this being the fundamental way taught and exemplified by Lord Jesus the Anointed (Christ);—2) the way of disciplined furor and/or disciplined fear;—3) the way of idolatry, the sacrifice of oneself and others for the sake of something given greater value that concrete human well-being, be that a concept of God, or nation, or race, or money, or whatever else for which humans go so far as to kill and/or die. Note:—the humans are the only species on the planet that will even kill or die for the sake of something that they have constructed purely from their imagination.—These things I say are based on life experience and on studies of the thoughts, words and example of Lord Jesus of Nazareth through the Gospels of Mark, Luke, Matthew and John and other texts of the Holy Bible, the so-called canonical books thereof. Douay-Rheims English translation and King James English translation were used. No special so-called supernatural revelation, angelic visitation and the like are being claimed here, only personal thinking and conclusions, and let others simply judge whether this makes sense or no sense.
According to Lord Jesus, peace be upon Him, two fundamental systems of human government flow out of the given ways of human functioning described below. One system of government [we can also use the clearer term “leadership in society”] flows from the way of the kingdom of heaven. According to the way of the kingdom of heaven, leaders serve the followers whom they lead rather than lord it over the followers [see Matthew 23:11-12; Mark 9:34, 10:42-44; Luke 22:25-26], and where the average human will have the best environment to function through that divine grace-energy of creativity in liberty and inner-outer reconciliation and peace, as per the kingdom of Heaven both within and among humans, preached by Lord Jesus.
The distribution of wealth, material riches, generally follows the distribution of social and political power of leadership. The dictators will always be also rich, and their subjects will always also be poor by comparison. There cannot be any true “redistribution of wealth” unless there is also a true redistribution of social and political power. Leadership as lording it over is the foundation for dictatorship.—Right now, on the global scale, international scale, or even country-level scale, there seems to be no leadership as service, only leadership as lording it over. Leadership as lording it over flows from functioning primarily by rage energies and fear energies, predatory, sadistic, and I think that its basis is spiritual, not really so much greed for material possessions and profit, but rather getting high on rage like getting high on a drug, and this is an evil type of spirituality, the feelings of spiritual and moral accomplishment in attacking, terrorizing, torturing and slaughtering, like a true predator, like lions tearing down Cape buffalos so to speak. Therefore, for significant numbers of the elite persons, knowing that there are people out there rummaging homeless through garbage dumpsters as a contrast actually makes the caviar all the more savory. They hate the lower classes and fantasize about having all sorts of wild wicked satanic stuff done to them just for kicks.
They like to think that they are robbing others by force and getting away with it. They are simply like the ferocious bullies at school, only now using financial methods to bully others rather than bullying by punching and kicking in a back alley. Yet I suspect that these wicked elite persons are merely a secretive minority, very small in numbers, like only 1% of the proverbial 1%,
but very superenergized.
Section B
I get the impression that much of the economic and social oppression between human classes does not stem from mere capitalistic greed to just accumulate more and more material wealth and profit. This is because if the richer classes truly had their own best interests and their own best security and prosperity in mind, they would not be driving the less rich classes into abject desperate poverty as they have always tended to do. It is abject desperate poverty which breeds revolutions and disasters for the richer ruling elites. So, why do most elites still insist on driving the non-elite people into desperate misery, even if there is danger of vengeful revolution down the line? This is because much if not most so-called capitalistic exploitation is not governed by robbing others of their decent measure of happiness because of greed for profit and material wealth, but rather it is robbing others of their decent measure of wealth and prosperity in order to make them miserable for sadistic, vindictive and predatory moral, psychological and spiritual
sense of one’s superiority and satisfaction. There is a sense of perpetual warfare and the excitation of this warfare, so that the risk of ferocious revolution is seen as stimulating and exciting, as well as the emotional stimulation and excitement in sending of death squads and terrorizing, punishing, torturing and butchering the less rich classes viewed as simply game or prey out there. It is humans turning into demons and being proud of that, a spiritual wickedness.
Jimmie, I’m just watching the last bit of your video…But I instantly thought when I heard you say the collective view of the East and the collective view of the West….’well’, I thought, ‘what about the Center ?” Central Europe is a forgotten entity, but I doubt there will be proper progress without a Center. And it makes is a trinity.
Rudolf Steiner was born in Central Europe and worked there for 25 years as a lecturer and educator, and philosopher. He talked about the polarities alot. He likened the West to the bronze feet of the Angel, in Revelation 10, and he likened the East to the face of the Angel, shining like the sun…and the Center is the rainbow…
In Revelation the rainbow also shines around the head of the Angel, but Steiner imagined it around the heart. And I can find a great picture in that.
the East is the head. The West is the feet and the Center is the heart… Unfortunately the Spirit of the Center has been attacked even as much as Russia. The WW2 was a Western enterprise that made the tumor within the Center. And WW1 was a set-up. there were western NGO’s throughout Serbia.
I would say that the Center has suffered spiritually as much as Russia. Not physically as much but the Spirit of Central Europe has been the target of the last 100 years and more. You know how great Central Europe was, before the 20th century.
But the great Spirit of Central Europe has not died… It still holds its lantern high. I hope that the people of Central Europe can overcome the sleep of death that they are experiencing now.
Perhaps the next years will see a change for the better.
Its interesting that you say the soul of the East is about soul and the soul of the West is about sale…very interesting The book The Threefold Commonwealth by Steiner says the East is the cultural leader of our time, the Center is the Life of Rights (a horrible caricature is the EU) and the West is the economic leader of our times. This is inherent in the make up of East, Center and West.
I think the West and the Middle are off track, but still fulfilling their destinies, but in a wrongful way. I think Russia is not so far off track…perhaps these terrible times are bringing the people over there together in a very good way. Unfortunately the Ukraine is really suffering, but this Bandera thing was a festering wound that has really broken open.
There is also the prediction of the antiChrist…a Muslim prophecy, that says this incarnation is coming soon.
Steiner also predicts this in our time, in America.
So things are off-track because of this influence. Orthodoxy, according to Saker, thinks the incarnation of the antiChrist will be the ‘end-times’. And that it should be postponed as long as possible.
I think we just have to get through it, and learn from it. I don’t think we should try to postpone it. Just think how much worse it would be if it were postponed.
Before a third of the third millennium has past, this incarnation will have happened…according to Steiner.
Anyway, thanks so much for being brave to talk about soul and spirit in a western land. Its good to hear.