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Very interesting but logical report. China sending military assets to Syria.
I indicated that if SCO has any theatre begging it for counter-terrorism, it is Syria.
ISIS, Uyghurs, AQ and backing by Turkey for these terrorists and separatists and extremists strikes at the core of what SCO was created to fight and extinguish.
With Russia in the lead, China has to move. If not here, where?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-24/chinese-military-personnel-aerial-assets-allegedly-en-route-syria
First, Syria, then Iraq, then Egypt and Libya. That’s the logical progression.
Russia wants to wrap the UN’s seal of approval but the US will continue to shield ISIS for as long as it can.
Thus, SCO, CSTO will umbrella the Russian and Chinese and their coalition effort.
It will be a fast and furious ground war in places. Air war in others.
We are going to see firepower unlike anything displayed in our time.
God Bless the Russians and the others fighting against the devils of the Hegemon.
Interesting that Turkey is an SCO Dialogue Partner since 2012. I see you omitted Palestine. I also have an issue with Putin supposedly declaring that State Terrorism doesn’t exist because that’s 100% false. I expect Putin to hammer home the Founding words of the UN Charter which the Outlaw Empire’s violated so many times during the UN’s 70 year history, demanding its cessation; otherwise its former and current members must be hunted down, arrested and tried for their massive crimes. But, I doubt he has the balls to utter such truths no matter how proper they are in reality. And that’s too bad because I otherwise admire Putin
@ Outlaw Historian,
Q; But, I doubt he has the balls to utter such truths no matter how proper they are in reality.
R; I hear you. As I’m not privy to Putin’s reasoning, I won’t even go near what he will do, in this reply to you.
On a personal note, I’ve declared what I would do if I were Putin and what I think he will say during his speech at the UN here on this web site, but much of it is like reading tea leaves; it’s all in the eye of the beholder.
I think of myself as a righteous and just man, but then I look at reality, and see I also have many flaws.
That’s the only truth I believe in.
Putin is wise as a serpent….gentle as a dove….those are the requirements.
http://thenewsdoctors.com/soros-cia-plan-to-destabilize-europe-wayne-madsen/
SEP 24
Soros / CIA Plan to Destabilize Europe – Wayne Madsen
geroge sorosTND Guest Contributor: Wayne Madsen
Just as the dark forces of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency and George Soros’s multi-billion dollar network of non-governmental organizations plotted to destabilize the Middle East and North Africa through the use of social media to bring about the so-called “Arab Spring”, these same forces have opened a new chapter in their book of global dysfunctionality by facilitating the mass movement of refugees and economic migrants from the Middle East, Asia, and Africa to Europe.
In March 2011, Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi predicted what would happen to Europe if the stability of his country was undermined by the Western powers. In an interview with “France 24”, Qaddafi correctly predicted, “There are millions of blacks who could come to the Mediterranean to cross to France and Italy, and Libya plays a role in security in the Mediterranean”.
Why is ISIS/ISIL or whatever the current name is not listed by the US as a terrorist organisation?
US Department of State list of designated foreign terrorist organizations
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm
al Nusra is a designated terrorist organisation
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/12/201759.htm
The Department of State has amended the Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) and Executive Order (E.O.) 13224 designations of al-Qa’ida in Iraq (AQI) to include the following new aliases: al-Nusrah Front, Jabhat al-Nusrah, Jabhet al-Nusra, The Victory Front, and Al-Nusrah Front for the People of the Levant. The Department of State previously designated AQI as an FTO under the Immigration and Nationality Act and as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist under E.O. 13224 on October 15, 2004. The consequences of adding al-Nusrah Front as a new alias for AQI include a prohibition against knowingly providing, or attempting or conspiring to provide, material support or resources to, or engaging in transactions with, al-Nusrah Front, and the freezing of all property and interests in property of the organization that are in the United States, or come within the United States or the control of U.S. persons.
The reason seems to be that as ISIS is not listed as a terrorist organisation the US is under no legal obligation to take action against those providing support for the group.
My last post was wrong. I see the US listed Islamic State of Iraq and Levant back in 2004.
US blocked that motion yesterday at the UN. they did not want Rus motion to pass.
Rus delegation wanted ISIS to be listed as sanctionable. US vetoed it.
for a response you’d need to address the US state dept.
hope this helps, j.
If this works:
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150924/1027491403/Syria-Tacit-Agreement.html
I hope it will be Mr Putin who gets the Nobel prize and not again the evil and desperate man who is leaving White House with shame and blood on hands!
The Noble Peace Prize has been tainted beyond redemption. FUBAR in army terminology. Worth less than worthless.
Please do not wish this icon of stupidity on an honest person such as president Putin.
But they did leave off the largest, most vicious, most widespread and most destructive terrorist organization in the entire world.
Wonder why?
I’d like to add one non-military point to China’s interests in the fight against ISIS and terror in general.
China’s biggest economic trade partner is the EU. The flood of refugees is destabilizing Europe. Europe is the West terminus of the New Silk Road, the western anchor of Eurasian development.
To end ISIS is to help end this massive migrant problem that started in Sub-Sahara warfare, moved to the Arab Spring North Africa and into the Middle East.
So, for trade and growth and stability, China needs to help Russia in this war.
With China, it will always be for trade, business, finance, development. That is their sweet spot.
Russia is more into its core security needs and opening the ME for future trade of its military and gas products.
To me the biggest problem for China from ISIS (and their Western and Turkish backers) is the threat to Western China.Unless ISIS and their associated supporters are not destroyed in place in the ME.And they are allowed to enter in force to Central Asia ,China would face a major security threat right across their border.And you’d see a Caucasus type terror movement spring up inside China’s border areas.Surely China must be able to see that too.If I was advising the Chinese I would advise them to do everything and anything to stop that from happening.And right now,while its still a small threat ,and can be destroyed.Once its allowed to get large, it would be extremely difficult to stop. Without a huge,and costly in lives and money military effort.
Putin did great things for the children of Donbass today: he called Elton John and he set up a meeting with his pal Obama next week.
Pathetic!
This is a headlined article from the Largest Liberal democratic Gang political propaganda outlet in the United States, the Huffington Post. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/09/24/obama-putin-will-meet-next-week-in-new-york-at-putins-request_n_8190084.html
Check the Huffington Post Headline, “Obama To Meet The Thug” – which is not the actual headline of the cited article from “Reuters”, which is “Obama, Putin Will Meet Next Week In New York At Putin’s Request.” The Zionist American Democrats label the democratically elected Russian President, Vladimir Putin, a “Thug.”
That insult alone deserves a serious and appropriate response from the Russian government. Indeed, the Huffington Post and all its servants should be taught the meaning of the term “thug.”
In diplomatic practice, the Huffington Post are the thugs. The Nazi Party, any Nazi Party, could issue no worse insult to a representative of a Democratic Republic.
Let us hear no trash about the American Republican gang being in any way worse than the Democrat gang. They are both twin scum, but the democrat scum have done the worst damage and accomplished the worst betrayals.
Let us hear no more talk of impeaching Obomber. One cannot impeach a Hollywood actor and his made to order family. The Thugs are in charge. They are omnipotent. They are scum. We hates them.
For the Democratic Republics!
For the Armed Militias! Who can deal with Thugs!
IMAGINE
That’s weird because when the Huffington Post started it was alternative media…I guess then ‘the funding’ started…gross.
Ann on September 25, 2015 · at 5:25 am UTC
“That’s weird because when the Huffington Post started it was alternative media…I guess then ‘the funding’ started…gross.”
As we say, You hit the nail on the head.
You may recall that Huffington Post owner, Ariana Huffington, sold her Website for a whopping $250 million dollars – a few years ago, while continuing as the Managing Director. That is a hell of a payoff.
In Truth, the Huffington Post was never “alternate media.” It was merely a Liberal Democrat gang zionist-imperialist Oligarch controlled propaganda rag – from the start. Its job was to mislead and disorient the sheep of the ‘left’, and it has done that – well.
On another topic: if you trust me, send me an email here: florent.defeu@yahoo.com so that I may send you some – IMAGINE stuff.
For the Democratic Republics!
The HuffPuff has its title completely wrong.
It should be Putin meets the War Criminal in Chief.
The HuffPuff was founded by millionaire oligarch Arianna Huffington, who then sold it to AOL.
It represents the “liberal” wing of the American Empire and was a major propagandist for Predator Drone President Obama in his 2008 selection and 2012 reselection.
One interesting thing about Arianna Huffington is that she used to be a Republican supporter was married to Republican candidate for Gov. of California, Michael Huffington.
Then, her husband, came out of the closet as a gay man, so Arianna not only divorced him but became a Demorat Party supporter!
ISIL doesn’t exist. It’s just an umbrella term for the takfiris.
The various groups are used to ensure oil production is kept going.
If they listed ISIL they would have to a) recognise the proto-state aspirations of the takfiris and b) admit they are doing business with them, even through the default of ‘terrorist’ listing.
This way they keep their options open as to which group of mercenaries are most useful (currently Petraeus is pushing his old mates Al-CIAda.) The don’t really want an ‘Islamic State’ state to solidify, they only want a manageable ‘Sunnistan’ and ‘Kurdistan.’
The televised event mentioned here would have been first week of September:
When Vanunu’s lawyer, Avigdor Feldman, agreed to a proposal by Channel 2 to interview him for the first time before an Israeli audience, he thought it would “crack open the iron mask that they’d placed on him.” The interview was filmed and then submitted to the Israeli military censor. Some material was cut by the censor and the approved material was aired last week. The interview caused a sensation: first, because Israelis had never heard him speak before. To them, he was a the devil painted by the security services: a cranky, angry, mentally ill traitor. Despite a querulous, clueless interviewer who asked largely inane questions, when viewers saw him, they realized he was a man who held to simple, stubborn beliefs of right and wrong. A man who disdained all the material comforts other Israelis chased after; and who was willing to suffer for those beliefs. The public may not have become fans, but at the least they understood his motives better.
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2015/09/12/israels-auto-da-fe-against-mordechai-vanunu-continues/
I had no idea about this man´s story, since in this blog I almost never hear of Israel and what happens there. Just yesterday I was commenting in the Ghassan Kadi interview ( yes, a little bit late but I cannot find time enough to catch up ) wondering what´s the mood amongst Israeli youth/people.
Very interesting, thanks.
An interesting book telling the story of Israels nuclear weapons program and Vanunu’s story is “The Samson Option”.It was written a long time ago.So I suspect a lot more has been discovered since then.But still it was the first real reporting on it I know of.Its chilling to read how they were able to subvert governments,and use undercover operations to criminally develop nuclear weapons.The state of Israel, truly is the poster child of a state terrorist nation.They,for their size, easily put to shame the US in its criminal actions (and that is hard to do).
Thanks for link to Vanunu’s story. Very interesting and inspiring. Great man.
OT
I’ve heard many stories about the ‘crazy nazis’ that live in the Ukraine. Uncle Bob 1 posted a link to a youtube upload elsewhere on this site, and I’m going to re-enter it here, becasue it sends a very clear and very important message; listen to what these women have to say and ask yourself, “Are they real nazis?”
It’s the ‘Divide & Rule’ angle, played out by the powers at large, that prevent ordinary citizens like you and me [the real world community] to join hands and live our lives in peace and harmony [whit ourselves, others and nature]. Please be aware of that powerful, societal ingredient.
Without further ado, here it is.
Thanks for re-posting that video.Its important for us all to remember that the junta and the fascists are “not” the majority of the “Russian” Ukrainian people.They are only a gang of criminals, that with the help of the Empire has seized Ukraine by the throat.And hold the people of Ukraine as their hostages.Once they are toppled,and the people are liberated from fear of them, de-nazification will fully free them from that gang’s ideology.
Russian F1 Grand Prix in Sochi weekend of October 9-11, 2015.
I just note this because it means Russia won’t be doing anything controversial before this weekend despite what may or may not happen in Ukraine/ Syria in particular over the next two weeks.
And then of course you have the Dutch Safety Board MH17 Report released two days later – October 13, 2015.
I suspect we all know what this is going to say. What will be interesting will of course be the Russian reaction.
Also happening in October into All Saints Day.
October 19, 2015 – Canadian General Election (End for NeoCon wannabe Harper?)
October 25, 2015 – Polish General Election (Duda’s first electoral test)
October 25, 2015 – Argentine Elections (Kirchners’ 12 year role coming to an end)
November 1, 2015 – Turkish General Election (Another blow for Erdogan?)
All interesting elections in their own right.
http://www.tasnimnews.com/english/Home/Single/868468
EU Approves Refugee Plan despite Opposition
September 23, 2015 – 11:45
TEHRAN (Tasnim) – The European Union interior ministers have approved a relocation plan on distributing 120,000 refugees among member states, media reports said.
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The Czech Republic, Romania, Slovakia, and Hungary, voted against the plan, while Finland abstained, RT reported on Tuesday.
Under the plan, refugees will be relocated from Italy, Greece, and Hungary to other countries in the EU.
The US Senate is considering a bill that would allow Washington to slap fresh sanctions against Tehran on alleged terrorism-related charges.
The bill, drafted by Democratic Senator Ben Cardin from Maryland, will pave the way for new anti-Iran bans in case it is approved in the Senate, al-Monitor media website reported on Wednesday.
Reports, however, say that Cardin had to modify his original draft proposal after critics rejected it for violating the spirit of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) clinched by Iran and the P5+1 group of countries in mid-July.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/09/25/430630/US-Senate-Iran-JCPOA-P51-Ben-Cardin-Tyler-Cullis
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/09/24/430547/UK-drone-strike-in-Syria-challenged
A legal proceeding has been initiated against British Prime Minister, David Cameron, over his decision to target Daesh or ISIL terrorists in Syria.
Green party lawmakers, Caroline Lucas and Jenny Jones, are working with human rights charity Reprieve to make the first step toward a judicial review to the attack on the Syrian soil. That after Cameron earlier this month revealed that British forces killed three Daesh terrorists, including two young Britons, in the northern Syrian city of Raqqah in a drone airstrike.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/09/24/430611/US-Russia-Syria-Pentagon-
US Defense Secretary Ash Carter says the United States and Russia could find ways to cooperate on the deadly crisis in Syria.
The Pentagon chief on Thursday called on Moscow to pursue a political solution to help put an end to the four-and-a-half-year conflict in the Arab nation.
Carter said if Russia were to fight Daesh (ISIL) terrorists, and not just attack opponents of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Washington and Moscow might work together.
“On a course like that, it is possible that we could find areas of cooperation,” Carter told reporters.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/09/24/430505/White-House-bracing-government-shutdown
The federal government will shut down on October 1, if Congress fails to pass a spending bill for the fiscal year 2016.
While Republicans have vowed to oppose any spending measure that does not defund Planned Parenthood, their Democratic colleagues would block any bill that targets the organization.
Earnest urged members of Congress to overcome “budgetary brinkmanship on Capitol Hill.”
Another Lurch appearance, another outbreak of hoof-in-mouth!
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940702000183
TEHRAN (FNA)- Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Marziyeh Afkham blasted US Secretary of State John Kerry’s remarks, and said Washington is seeking to blame others for its wrong policy in Syria.
“The US secretary of state’s comments inviting Iran to play a constructive role in Syria is an attempt to project the blame of others and is against the realities of the crisis in Syria,” Afkham told reporters in Tehran on Thursday.
Reminding that Iran has always stressed the need for providing the ground for Syrian-Syrian talks and comprehensive political agreement as the only way to stop the war and end the crisis, she said, “In our view, only those solutions that are based on realities and respect the Syrian people’s will and determination will bear fruit in Syria.”