Translated and subtitled by Scott Humor
It seems that the main function of British diplomacy is to entertain the Russians, while trying to hang all the dogs in the “Skripals case” on the GRU. The last attempt caused an explosion of violent and offensive mockery in social media.
Every time we think that London has reached the bottom in its “Skripals case,” new abyss opens below. Have you seen a fresh abyss that just opened when Britain stated that it knows who the suspects are in the “poisoning” of the British spy and his daughter?
Quoting the Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova.
“The Russian Foreign Ministry has requested that the British ambassador to Moscow provide fingerprints of men that London called suspects in the Skripal case and connected them to Russia,” the diplomat informed. “The British ambassador stated that the British side would not provide these materials.”
But the British side provided photos of these “Putin’s agents.” Here they are.
Британская полиция распространила фотографии двух "подозреваемых" в отравлении Скрипалей. А что ж такого качества? Неужели МИД Британии не поделился с полицией их фотокарточками, сделанными для визы? Вот рядом почитайте требования к фото на брит. визу pic.twitter.com/fA512epwZr
— Vladimir Kornilov (@Kornilov1968) September 5, 2018
Yes, the comparison with the real photo requirements for a British visa application is impressive. After all, if these people are really Russians who have entered London, then Scotland Yard should have their normal photos, as well as everything else, including biometric data.
The quality of provided images caught attention of our compatriots. They showed it in their usual way – through trolling.
Have you seen these masterpieces?
Стали известны личности двоих подозреваемых в отравлении Скрипалей pic.twitter.com/62ysTcG4No
— Айболит (@ajbolit_limpopo) September 5, 2018
Британская прокуратура опубликовала фотографии двух наиболее опасных террористов, ответственных за все теракты pic.twitter.com/xRUw7bhgCT
— Д///ИХАД (@tvjihad) September 5, 2018
В Британии назвали имена россиян, подозреваемых в отравлении Скрипалей. Это Александр Петров и Руслан Боширов pic.twitter.com/QeyekcZBkv
— ОтецРусскойДемократии (@Maiskolpino) September 5, 2018
Какие ваши доказательства? pic.twitter.com/Xo356CdpJ7
— Во///дь™ (@subb_ZEr0) September 5, 2018
Our people also got very interested in images posted on the official Scotland Yard’s website. I mean the screenshots from surveillance cameras.
"Агенты ГРУ" идут травить семейку Скрипаль. На паре фоток в коридоре одно и то же время, секунда в секунду. Ничего, бывает. Там пипл реально хавает такие доказательства.. pic.twitter.com/d5Sp1hbGDT
— Уругвайская разведка (@UrgIntellegence) September 5, 2018
“Are you sure that those are the GRU agents! Could that be the agents of the Matrix – Mr. and Mr. Smith, or maybe, Comrade and Comrade Kuznetsov?”
“Same place, same time. I understand, Putin is omnipotent, but to command time? Isn’t it too much even for him?”
In addition, it turned out that the jokes about the “Red Heat” movie are not really jokes, because the photos of the “suspects” are surprisingly like the actors who played “Russian mafia” in the same old-school film with Schwarzenegger.
The bloggers also came up with a logical explanation of why the British refused to provide suspects’ biometric data. Word to the sarcastic Ruslan Karmanov.
“Indeed, if these people entered the UK and left – London has their fingerprints. Without a doubt. As all other data.
But it is obvious that the transition to the specifics will immediately kill all the declared constructions. The people in the photo will become the first and last names, specific dates of arrival and specific routes of travel, and the version of “Two anonymous Ivans came, poisoned everyone and left” won’t go smoothly.”
Another characteristic detail of this story is a bottle, presented to the public, a bottle that “Putin’s agents” allegedly used to store “Novichok.”
“A bottle of perfume Premier Jour with nerve agent, which in June injured two residents of Amesbury, was a fake, as reported by the British police, citing a representative of the perfume brand Nina Ricci.
It is noted that the bottle with a nozzle was specially adapted for spraying poison, the box of perfume is also a fake of the famous brand.”
As above mentioned Karmanov duly noted, “Dumb and dumber” turned out to be a documentary. For example, if the bottle really contained poison. Imagine yourself in the Russian special service’ shoes. We live in XXI century, the borders are open, you can freely buy any perfume, pour the content out, and refill with poison. Why to make a fake bottle, let alone a fake box?
To fake those items could only be an idea of a gentleman, with the Western patent law tightly stitched to his forehead.
“No, wait! What if the Skripals sue the brand Nina Ricci, owned by some respected people, and what if they win the lawsuit? We cannot do that. It is not good for the gentlemen to set up some respected people like that, and therefore let’s make a fake bottle and box. Let’s say that the Russians made it. They live behind the “iron curtain”, they can’t buy perfume anywhere.”
In general, we can compare those who invented this story with inspector Lestrade, cheered by Sherlock Holmes for his stupidity, not to giants like Hercule Poirot and Miss Marple.
James Bonds have degenerated. They should stick to movies.
Peter Lavelle suggested that the idea behind the announcement of the “perpetrators” is to bring the whole sad and embarrassing story to an end. Consistent with the rest of the “careful professionalism” of the British Government, this latest effort contains actually silly loose ends. As though it were put together under extreme time pressure after a serious all night binge drinking party.
You start dreaming up — on their behalf — plausible scenarios to avoid facing the utter shame of their unbelievable foolishness. (1) Are they trying to be funny? — Under some convoluted plot line. (2) Is this an instance of “Revelation of the Method”, where they cynically show you it is all a farce, which you can nevertheless do nothing about. You can’t (apparently) even get the British public to see through a cover too thin to be called a tissue.
(3) No. No. I can’t face it. No: the heirs of the British Empire actually believe that they are Oh so clever and capable? This isn’t even revulsion I feel. It is extreme mental stress. Can they have devolved so much? I understand how it is that the British Empire collapsed. The question is: how did such hominids ever build the damn thing? You see: I can’t get out of my mind the fact that the Sepoys mutinied, and using British weapons and training killed off essentially the entire local British Army. Then the Empire calmly landed a moderate sized army (from a small and distant island, with a much smaller population than that of the Indian subcontinent) and reconquered the entire land mass. And these people have come to this?
It ought to be funny; and I did laugh out loud at abu Talka Al Rusi and abu whiskas al Baghdadi. But on another level, this isn’t funny at all.
It is just linked to Idlib….the goal is to brainwash their sheeps in advance with the following:
skripal—-chem—russia—-bad
syria idlib—chem—russia—-bad
Repeated 1000 times.
The skripal case has always been linked with Syria(though to Save their terrorists and save the greater Israel project,which is the only goal of the Syrian war).
That certainly seems to be the case.
To throw out a few “dots” that get connected in far-fetched fashion by British politicians and the media, and the public is supposed to follow this trail of chem-dots. Unfortunately it seems that a lot of them do
A contorted and quite outlandish syllogism.
In the meantime, two people have been disappeared and one has died.
And the Brits seem to be no closer to solving either one of those actual crimes.
Katherine
I certainly agree with you here. As Paul Craig Roberts points out, 24/7 the public is being bombarded with demonization of Vladimir Putin and DJT. This fabricated Skripal event is more preparation of the public. How any thinking person could believe this nonsense is beyond me. This ploy of demonization is a tactic that is used to justify an end goal, to attack and destroy the suspect. This is very dangerous. How could western leaders so quickly jump on the bandwagon that Russia did it when the only evidence is found in the statement by Theresa May that “it is highly likely” that Russia did it? Even Trump and the entire congress have lined up in support and have moved to enforce continued and escalating sanctions against Russia. Crushing sanctions! If these government front men really believe this fabrication, then they are idiots and it is very dangerous that they are in positions of governance. If they are not idiots then they are all involved in a conspiracy with an end goal, and this is likewise very dangerous for all of us. There is something about the Skripal fabrication which appears in most or all false flag events. The official conclusion is almost immediately presented to the public as the truth even though there has not even been any investigation, as if that conclusion was written in advance to support the event. And in spite of contradictory evidence which comes to light with investigation, they just keep repeating the lie over and over as if it is truth. Where is this going? No place good, I’m sure. The Empire has no intention of ever leaving Syria or any other place they have destroyed and Russia is on the target list. The only way this can ever stop is by the fall of the Empire.
“This ploy of demonization is a tactic that is used to justify an end goal, to attack and destroy the suspect. ”
and, BTW, we are seeing the exact same thing occurring with the anonymous memo published by the NYT. Trump rightly calls this out as treasonous, and the perps of this affair are outraged! outraged! Yet these are the folks who openly accused Trump of treason for meeting with Putin. The T-word is being slung around in a very nerve-racking fashion
The jackals are circling Trump, as they are circling Syria and Russia, wthi a whole menu of demonization campaigns and rhetoric. IT is extraordinary. I am sure this is being coordinated, but by whom? where? At the NYT, as Roberts suggests? Are they using the protections of journalistic privilege to run t is show?
Katherine
Ed Walsh
The point is that London, almost certainly in conjunction with Washington, pulled off the Skripal false flag, which was timed with the Russian Presidential elections and the World Cup, the intention being for both to be subverted. However, this false flag will go down in history as one of the most foolish ever instigated. It was obviously planned by bureaucrats with minimal scientific training. They came up with the “bright” idea of accusing Russia of using – of all things – military nerve gas. If this was true, then the streets would have been covered with dead bodies. Nobody died, and the “victims” made remarkable recoveries, when in fact they should have died if nerve gas was really used.
London would have been smarter if it concluded this entire episode, having it forgotten. Well, it did conclude the episode by presenting photographs of two Russian “agents”, people who were obviously picked at random and who leave the impression of being nothing more than two ordinary guys who came on a short vacation. They are instead accused of carrying out that “assassination” attempt. And their method of work ? They bought return airline tickets from Moscow to London, smuggling the nerve agent in their luggage. How “professional” of them. I wonder how many people laughed when they read this. Is this how professional government agents operate ? I think not.
All London has done is to discredit itself even more with this additional childish nonsense. The unfortunate point is that both London and Washington had years ago set themselves on a course to break up Russia, and this old strategy is failing again. Now both don’t know what to do, applying more of the same.
BF, I would venture the thought that “professional agents” were not even involved. Unless MI6 or some other agency involved in this farce is full of morons. The thought, that they believe that people will buy this nonsense
makes this farce even more moronic.
I guess, they also believe that they assume that people never heard Putin say: “if this was really novitchok” many people would be instantly dead if exposed to it. Knowing what Putin said, and hearing the morons say that they found “novitchok traces” in those guys beddings makes one ask: “and those guys are still walking”?
Also, wouldn’t those guys need hazmat outfits before squeezing the “perfume pump”?
Seriously, these poisonings look very much to me like use of Carfentanyl, the symptoms resemble nerve gas with quite high mortality.
Carfentanyl was synthesized by Janssen as an analog of Fentanyl, but couldn’t be used in medical practice due to extremely narrow safety margin. Under the name of Wildnil it is used in tranquilising darts for large animals. It is produced these days also by numerous Chinese companies and sold as an ilicit street drug mostly in USA and Canada, but also in UK. There are registered and reported many deaths from Carfentanyl use among the drug addicts.
The latest news is that these two “assassins” brought with them a perfume bottle which had enough nerve gas to kill 4.000 people. Indeed. All this to “assassinate” one Russian traitor ? Now there are “fears” that there was another perfume bottle holding more “nerve gas”. Indeed. What more nonsense am I going to read ?
What we have here is psychological warfare being waged not only against Russia, but against domestic European populations, the intent being to scare them with the “Russian threat”. This has been timed with the Russian-Syrian operation against Idlib, where NATO is preparing another false flag attack, using the White Helmets. Syria will again be accused of using nerve gas, something it never had any intention of doing. Why should it ? To incriminate itself ?
Unfortunately, there is more news. The US is planning a military operation against Syria ? Why ? To save ISIS ? To save NATO troops trapped in Idlib ? To save both ?
No the point is Iran sir. Novichok is the name of the game coming up in Syria. The OPCW and Iran collaborated in 2016 to develop antidotes for binary poisons of what has lately been referred to as the Novichok class of CW. The antics of Mrs. May of the Great Wen and her white Indian Johnson is to prime the world for the false flag which leads all to hell. Iran is the target. Syria is the battle space. Novichok is all about seeding Armageddon.
As though it were put together under extreme time pressure after a serious all night binge drinking party
Exactly. Just as they once got a million Frenchmen (and several heads of government) to walk through Paris chanting “I’m a Charlie”.
About the timestamps:
In the North Terminal of Gatwick Airport, at the northern end of arrival level zero, there are several parallel and apparently identical gates leading into the airport. Each of these has a camera.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/09/a-curious-timestamp-in-the-new-novichok-evidence.html#more
In two identical gates at Gatwick airport two Russian agents walked in full synchron to the second. Either Russian agents are able to march in full synchron without even seing each other, which is quite disturbing news, or these two were members of a synchronized swimming team.
There are no other passengers on the photos. Does Gatwick have separate gates for each passenger?
It still seems highly unlikely that both men would pass in the exact same position under the camera at the exact same *second*.
Unh?
Looks to me more like an oversight of some kind that the copyeditor didn’t catch. Like, maybe this is when the photos were photoshopped or something.
Katherine
Could be an oversight. In my opinion, it’s more likely a deliberate insertion that can afterwards be refuted, to show how silly any objections to the official narrative are, and to distract from other less easy to disprove detail.
A more serious timing discrepancy is that the Skripals left their house a couple of hours before the arrival of the suspects.
Sure enough, here we go:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45454142
I apologize for not knowing Russian and thus having to post in English. Some other things jumped out at me from the official story.
For one, the two bad guys supposedly entered the UK three months before the alleged attack. Perhaps it took three months to set up the attack. But if so, why was the attack timed to coincide with the presence of Skripal’s daughter? It could have occurred sooner. Or else after she’d returned to Russia. (Her stay in the UK was only supposed to be a week or so, if I remember correctly.)
Second, the two were supposedly identified by a special team of Scotland Yard experts who can identify a person just from seeing that person’s ear, or nose, or mouth. But with passport photos in hand, why bother?
Third, as was first mentioned months ago, why would the Russian government have waited a decade to go after Skripal, who had been openly living in the UK all that time?
Fourth, Britain now says Skripal had been working with anti-Russian-mafia investigations in Spain. Perhaps Russians did perpetrate the attack. But it seems far more likely that, if so, they were working on behalf of the Russian mafia rather than the Russian government.
There is something wrong with the “picture” the UK presents. Any decent criminal defense lawyer can poke numerous holes in the official story. Mr. Ostashko’s presentation quite rightly turns the implausibility into a ludicrous farce. It is astounding the Mainstream Media take such idiocy at face value.
Just as an historical note: the similarities to the Reichstag Fire of 1933 are amazing, though on a smaller scale. Perhaps the Brits simply lifted the lesson from the history books, and made the necessary changes. Well, as the American P.T. Barnum said: “There’s a sucker born every minute.” But it is astounding to see so many suckers in high positions. Either they are fools, or—vastly more likely—they’re frauds. Orwell would be amused, perhaps.
Msm journalists are not so stupid they ALL know this is a hoax like the fake chem attacks by Assad in Syria,like everything concerning Russia since 2014(or even a bit before 2008).But they are FORCED to publish these lies otherwise their career is over simply and they have to pay their mortgage.On Skripal in the UK it is even worse all papers receive a special notice code D(if not wrong?)which obliges them NOT to publish another version than the Gov one,for national security reason.They can be fined and fired if they don’t respect the order.Broadcasters and newspapers owners may loose their licence(Craig Murray explains all the details on his blog).
what…like Germans being forced by the Nazis you mean?
Having to pay the mortgage does not excuse being party to lying to the public as a journalist. It is a disgrace and there should be penalties. They should be struck off like bad doctors.
I’ve heard an interesting story about NAZIs – slightly off the subject bu relevant to how fake history is created:
A vet friend from Croatia told me yesterday that his grandfather spent a couple of years in a German concentration camp (not Auswitz – I forgot the name).
His grandfather told him the ugliest thing he remembers from his time at the cam was seeing all the backstabbing going on between Jews who were in that concentration camp while he was tere
One important point that must be included in examining this story of “Two Russians entered England.” Who approved their visas? No Russian can enter England without having a visa and undergoing a visa interview. What did they say and to whom? What UK diplomatic office issued the visa and where is the visa?
Are we to assume they were able to enter the country via a major airport on a flight direct from Moscow without a visa? Who in Customs interviewed them?? The Chief of Police was asked about their visa by a reporter and he nearly died of apoplexy:)
Also and importantly; if you examine the photos of them in London and Salisbury the photos are photo shopped, and not very well either. You can find excellent discussions of this on the internet. Whoever doctored the photos didn’t do a particularly good job. Much like the fake plane videos on 9/11 where the nose of the plane exits the building and the one where they wing of the plane is in front of and then a second later is behind a crane in the foreground.
“The Chief of Police was asked about their visa by a reporter and he nearly died of apoplexy:)”
This is funny!
I am sure these two are the British police officers. The Chief of Police didn’t think that Russians would ask for their fingerprints.
One more point: the fake name “BOshirov.”
This name doesn’t exist. There are either BAsharov, or BAshirov. It’s a Russian way to say a “son of Bashir” – Bashir-ov.
Bashar (transliteration: Bashshār, Arabic: بشّار) is an Arabic name for boys that means “bringer of good news”.
I thought it was part of American and also English jurisprudence that all evidence must be made available to the defense. So, what happened to that??? Maybe russian should ask for this whole thing to be brought to the International Court. Or, start an action themselves, so that the Brits have to produce their evidence.
Why do I think something so basic can never happen?
Katherine
“Maybe Russian should ask for this whole thing to be brought to the International Court.”
We just had the Tehran – 2018 conference, next will be Yalta conference, and after that another Nuremberg, but this time over the AZs.
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I just remembered something. If these two men tried to carry a bottle with nerve agent through the British airport security, it would be displayed in different color by the screening machine.
Why no one in the UK is questioning the proficiency of the London airport security?
Listen to this:
Nigel Farage Fascinated By Detail Of Airport Security
Nerve agent would be displayed in different color on the screen.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ghtw6
Color-change detectors can detect nerve, blister, and blood agents …
In every long living bureaucracy (similar to a stagnant pool) s*t flows to the top.
Let’s repeat one more time:
The Jewish Mafia’s mass mind controllers don’t mind at all if you call their bluffs. On the contrary, they gleefully wait for it. Their military-grade psyops are by design as ludicrous, unbelievable, and demented as possible. Lavishly funded, for centuries ongoing MK-Ultra research has revealed that mind-wrecking and psyche-breaking works best as a double punch:
The shock and trauma to the nervous system that stems from the Mafia’s nihilistic hoaxes and goy-mocking spiels is severe, but nothing compared to the shock and trauma inflicted on your psyche by the fact that you, having caught the perpetrators red-handed, won’t be able to do anything about it. You realize that you are utterly impotent, completely powerless, miles away from touching – what to say about stopping – even the tinniest wheel of the machine. Worse: Not even your kids will believe your emotional rants and ramblings, and your grandchildren will be taught the Mafia’s narrative at school anyway.
This is the situation we find ourselves in. Since hundreds of years …
wow…SMR…very well put. Thanks for that comment…it is how I have found myself feeling recently.
Yes, I think this is true and the obvious flaws in any story are an important feature not a bug that allows them to gauge levels of resistance. What they are missing in their assumption that the absence of resistance means they have sheep.
What they really have are a very large number of very quiet people sharpening very sharp knives. Do they really think the record high number of gun sales in the US is due to sheep-like people believing obvious and idiotic lies?
The Duran
Forget due process and evidence Theresa May knows the Russians are Novichok assassins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFAcqaNzNSc
Sorry,
correct link to the video above
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF4fkvMahow
and correct title to the link above
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Putin “ultimately” to blame for Salisbury poison attack – UK Security Minister
https://www.rt.com/uk/437773-wallace-putin-salisbury-poison/
RT America
UN Security Council Convenes Over Skripal Case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HMpomM_cI8
Al Jazzera
Russia charged with Skripal nerve-agent poisoning
(the other dancer at 3:44 Maria Zakharova)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDCtd9NnAnU
Novichok and Vodka
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlNmXzal5Ch/?taken-by=sputnik_news
Ok well then the USA is “ultimately” to blame because Putin would never have come to power in Russia if the USA hadn’t put in Yetlsin, and then Putin was put in to supposedly continue the policies under yeltsin, but he didn’t. So ultimately, the USA is responsible for Putin even being in the Kremlin in the first place.
So, if we are looking for “Ultimately” first causes, why stop with Putin?
This “ultimately” train of thought is a not very clever way of sidestepping the need for evidence. Apparetnly Putin is so all-powerful that he is “ultimately” responsible for every flap of a butterfly wing in Russia and beyond.
Katherine
For some reason I am feeling very unsure about the “evidence” of these two persons travels as provided by Fontanka.ru and being constantly quoted elsewheres…they seem be to an independant set up…particularly “investigating VVP and his cronies “has been stated.
Yet another reminder for Russians that they are not welcome in the West. This is a benefit to Russia as this will ultimately stop the “brain drain” from Russia to the West.
This is true, especially in the tech sector.Russian programmers are probably the best in the world today, they are wasting their talents by lending them to the West.
A commenter on MoA pointed out the similar methodology used here as was used in the 1920’s over the fake ‘Zinoviev letter’ which caused such hysterical consternation at the time that it has been re-visited by every British Labour administration since that time.
From Google translate, a Russian article covering this. The machine translator renders the ‘Skripals’ as the ‘Violins’ for reasons known only to itself, otherwise the article is quite readable and coherent for a machine jobbie:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fria.ru%2Fanalytics%2F20180905%2F1527822792.html
“The machine translator renders the ‘Skripals’ as the ‘Violins’ ”
Violin in Russian is “skripka”.
By the way, what puzzles me is the likeness of the two assassins. First I thought it is one and the same person, with different hairdo’s and a beard added, or maybe brothers, or other close relatives. Or a computer created picture. They certainly are of the same nationality, which is not Russian, more south-eastern. Of course, “a Russian” can be of any appearance. At least earlier, a person could choose his/her nationality for the ID document between mother’s or father’s nationality (if they were different). If by “Russian” one means the citizenship of Russian Federation, then a person of any nationality can have it.
As has been pointed out, the published portraits of these two do not fulfill the visa photo requirements, then where did the photos come from? Did the assassins pose separately for the London Police in some shady warehouse?
Did the boys have more than hand luggage on the plane? If not, any liquid must be presented to the security control unpacked, in a transparent plastic bag. To leave it in larger luggage is even more risky. The bottle(s) cannot have been brought to London with these strange characters. If the bottles existed at all, they can be an after-construction (highly likely). Poor Charlie has already given three explanations of where he found the bottle and two explanations on how he came in contact with the contents.
Who comes to UK on a “Business trip” from Friday afternoon to Sunday evening? Well, the visa was probably for a longer period. It should be easy for the Russian side to control that these persons were on the named flights. No comments from them on this? Cameras at the Russian airport?
More and more holes in the narrative.
Breaking:exact locations of the coming false flags tonight in principle
Chemical Weapons Provocation in Syria to Start September 8 – Russian MoD
“The scenarios for the filming of staged ‘incidents’ with the alleged use of poisonous substances by Syrian government troops against civilians in the settlements of Jisr Al-Shugur, Serakab, Taftanaz, and Sarmin were finally agreed upon during the meeting. The full readiness of all participants involved in carrying out staged provocations should be ensured by the evening of September 8. The signal for the beginning of the practical phase of the terrorists’ provocation in the province of Idlib will be a special team from some ‘foreign friends of the Syrian revolution’,” Konashenkov said.
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201809081067858045-weapons-provocation-syria/
Will the US Clash With Russia Over Syria?
https://sputniknews.com/radio_loud_and_clear/201809081067849848-will-the-us-clash-with-russia-over-syria/
Full confirmation of the link between Skripal hoax and Syrian false flags..
Thanks to Bibi for both.
I don’t understand why Putin still dare to invite this satanist(even less to the Sacred Victory Parade)it is a real shame.
US Marines ready this time to kill ”russians”
https://russia-insider.com/en/us-marines-live-fire-exercise-southern-syria-warning-russia/ri24689
200 BRITISH AND US TROOPS TRAPPED IN IDLIB
Posted By: Rodney Atkinsonon: September 07, 2018In: News Print Email
Sources in Russia and Syria, some known indirectly to me through a reliable contact, have reported that US and British “advisers” and “instructors” to the Syrian opposition forces are trapped in Idlib. There are frantic attempts by the USA and Britain to ask Turkey or Russia to help evacuate these troops. But Britain has refused to co-operate with the Russians!
The local opposition forces in Idlib include tens of thousands of extreme Al Qaeda related elements like Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) many of whom were given safe passage out of other parts of Syria recaptured by Government forces. Turkey which backs the National Front for Liberation has asked Russia for time to isolate HTS in order to forestall an attack.
While today the USA calls for Russian and Syrian forces to hold off from attacking Idlib last year the US Government’s Special Envoy in the region Brett McGurk called Idlib province
“the largest Al Qaeda safe haven since 9/11 tied directly to Ayman al-Zawahiri [leader of Al Qaeda].”
he also admitted that the farcical western policy of sending
“tens of thousands of tons of weapons and looking the other way as foreign fighters come into Syria may not have been the best approach. Al Qaeda has taken full advantage of it and Idlib now is a huge problem.”
The fall of Idlib would be the end of the last rebel held province and would open up the main highway through Syria from Jordan to Turkey. Syrian Government troops are massing for an attack, Russian ships have gathered off the coast at Tartous and the final phase of the Syrian war looks imminent.
There are 200 British and US instructors, doubtless with important weaponry and intelligence, are trapped and the UK wants the Turks to evacuate them to the Incirlik airbase In Turkey. This was apparently refused.
So now the US is begging Russia to help – just as the US and UK representatives at the UN attack Russia on the Salisbury poisoning!! But the British army contacts are not cooperating with the Russians – why?
Russia has been warning for weeks of yet another false flag chemical weapons attack organised by the (UK Intelligence services founded) “White Helmets” and there are rumours that Russia has the names of chemical weapons handling specialists amongst the British trapped in Idlib. The reason why the British army has refused to co-operate with the Russians might be that some of these British specialists have embarrassing “specialisms”!
This is not the first time that the USA and the UK have asked for Russian help to save their troops in Syria. Freenations reported in December 2016 that 230 US Army instructors and 54 British troops, 8 French and two Dutch artillery specialists were trapped in Aleppo with ISIS jihadists by Syrian and Russian forces.
I am very interested in this post and would like to read more. Can you provide links please..? Time is of the essence right now.
You’re still talking about it. Britain wins. That’s how that works.
Moreover, learn the names of some Russian detectives. Propping up british literature: britain wins again.
Russia needs better info warriors.
This I can not understand: Why British Empire is still struggling to destroy a little country like Serbia? Empire use every opportunity and every chance it has. Serbia has never harmed British interest and as a small country, with very small power, it could never have done it. Thus it is above my imagination to understand that kind of politics. In both World Wars Serbia and U.K. were allies (if we have ever been truly). Serbian people have never been able to do something that it is painful for U.K. However this is not a complaint. Just looking for rational reasons. Crimes of British Empire against Serbs are endless. Just in recent war in Kosovo 400 members of the British S.A.S. were used, in combat, against Serbian/Yugoslav military. That’s a lot. Why? Wherever Serbian position is endangered in Balkan the Empire shows up and acts brutally against it.
It’s the nature of the British Empire… while most people these days blame US for a lot of what’s going on in the world, most don’t realise that British Empire is behind most of it after all… as they always were: https://larouchepub.com/lar/2000/terror_memo_2703.html
Just an example for you from 2001…
Brits manipulate the world and US gets blamed, not saying that US is blameless
Mainly it is the continuation of the Anti Orthodox war, which has been going on a thousand years. UK and USA and Zionists are along with the Vatican, trying to destroy Orthodoxy. The Greek and Romanian church they bribed off, they can no longer be called real Orthodox, Ukraine has been annexed to Uniate Fascism. but Serbia and Russia alone are the last Orthodox nations. The Empire will just keep on doing this, until Russia submits…. However Russia and Serbia will not submit, and with the isolation and impoverishment that is coming to UK soon, outside of the EU, they will be reduced to begging their Albanian and Ukranian allies for grain and coal ;)
Thank you both for the answers. I assumed that there is something at religious level. Whole western media machinery attacked us and we felt like we are under some kind of “holy” inquisition court investigation. We were suffered imposing of guilt, besides that we had been sliced, tortured, at the end burned at the stake. Before that, during the war (Bosnia and Kosovo), our children and women had been being killed or raped by terrorists for several years. We had Mujahideen and Islamic fanatics from Arab countries, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc., even some elements supported by Iran. Empire has dragged them all to our land. Of course Albanians, in Kosovo, used all kinds of opportunity and support. We didn’t have any support from Russia like Syrian army has today. We were all alone. More than 10 years we had our war with Western powers and theirs satellites/puppets.
That land is our from medieval times with many monasteries and churches that were built by our holy-warrior monarchs long before U.S. was born. Our national identity is built on many historic events that occurred over time. But that were almost all destroyed by unbelievable efforts of the Empire.
I had to say all of that. Most Serbs do not want to talk about this. We might have come to the end of our trip on this World. Sorry for troubling.
Best regards.
Troops next to exercise under any pretence.
I thought one commenter pointed out on this website (somewhere) that Serbia is a conquest for powerful German elites, who are allies of the U.K., not for the British Empire elites directly. Perhaps other European Anglo-affiliated elites are also involved?
If this latest episode of the Skripal story is connected with the upcoming false flag cw attack in Syria, then the Russians seem to think such an attack is pretty imminent.
“The scenarios for the filming of staged ‘incidents’ with the alleged use of poisonous substances by Syrian government troops against civilians in the settlements of Jisr Al-Shugur, Serakab, Taftanaz, and Sarmin were finally agreed upon during the meeting. The full readiness of all participants involved in carrying out staged provocations should be ensured by the evening of September 8. The signal for the beginning of the practical phase of the terrorists’ provocation in the province of Idlib will be a special team from some ‘foreign friends of the Syrian revolution’,” Konashenkov said.
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201809081067858045-weapons-provocation-syria/
The west propaganda against Russia is best described by the following:
The seven Principles of Propaganda as follows:
Avoid abstract ideas – appeal to the emotions. When we think emotionally, we are more prone to be irrational and less critical in our thinking. I can remember several instances where this has been employed by the US to prepare the public with a justification of their actions. Here are four examples:
The Invasion of Grenada during the Reagan administration was said to be necessary to rescue American students being held hostage by Grenadian authorities after a coup that overthrew the government. I had a friend in the 82nd airborne division that participated in the rescue. He told me the students said they were hiding in the school to avoid the fighting by the US military, and had never been threatened by any Grenadian authority. Film of the actual rescue broadcast on the mainstream media was taken out of context; the students were never in danger.
The invasion of Panama in the late 80’s was supposedly to capture the dictator Manual Noriega for international crimes related to drugs and weapons. I remember a headline covered by all the media where a Navy lieutenant and his wife were detained by the police. His wife was sexually assaulted while in custody, according to the story. Unfortunately, it never happened. It was intended to get the public emotionally involved to support the action.
The invasion of Iraq in the early 90’s was preceded by a speech by a girl describing the Iraqi army throwing babies out of incubators so the equipment could be transferred to Iraq. It turns out the girl was the daughter of one of the Kuwait’s ruling sheiks and the event never occurred. However, it served its purpose by getting the American public involved emotionally supporting the war.
During the build up to the bombing campaign by NATO against Libya, a woman entered a hotel where journalist were staying claiming she was raped by several police officers of the Gaddafi security services. The report was carried by most media outlets as representative of the brutality of the Gaddafi regime. I was not able to verify if this story was true or not, but it fits the usual method employed to gain public support through propaganda for military interventions.
The greatest emotion in us is fear and fear is used extensively to make us think irrationally. I remember growing up during the cold war having the fear of nuclear war or ‘The Russians are coming!’ After the cold war without an obvious enemy, it was Al Qaeda even before 911, so we had ‘Al Qaeda is coming!’ Now we have ‘ISIS is coming!’ with media blasting us with terrorist fears. Whenever I hear a government promoting an emotional issue or fear mongering, I ignore them knowing there is a hidden Truth behind the issue.
Constantly repeat just a few ideas. Use stereotyped phrases. This could be stated more plainly as ‘Keep it simple, stupid!’ The most notorious use of this technique recently was the Bush administration. Everyone can remember ‘We must fight them over there rather than over here’ or my favourite ‘They hate us for our freedoms’. Neither of these phrases made any rational sense despite 911. The last thing Muslims in the Middle East care about is American’s freedoms, maybe it was all the bombs the US was dropping on them.
Give only one side of the argument and obscure history. Watching mainstream media in the US, you can see all the news is biased to the American view as an example. This is prevalent within Australian commercial media and newspapers giving only a western view, but fortunately, we have the SBS and the ABC that are very good, certainly not perfect, at providing both sides of a story. In addition, any historical perspective is ignored keeping the citizenry focused on the here and now. Can any of you remember any news organisation giving an in depth history of Ukraine or Palestine? I cannot.
Demonize the enemy or pick out one special “enemy” for special vilification. This is obvious in politics where politicians continuously criticise their opponents. Of course, demonization is more productively applied to international figures or nations such as Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, Gaddafi in Libya, Assad in Syria, the Taliban and just recently Vladimir Putin over the Ukraine, Crimea and Syria. It establishes a negative emotional view of either a nation (i.e. Iran) or a known figure making us again think emotionally, thus irrationally. Certainly some of these groups or individuals were less than benign, but not necessarily demons as depicted in the west.
Appear humanitarian in work and motivations. The US has used this technique often to validate foreign interventions or ongoing conflicts where the term ‘Right to Protect’ is used for justification. Everyone should remember the many stories about the abuse of women in Afghanistan or Saddam Hussein’s supposed brutality to his people. One thing that always amazes me is when the US sends humanitarian aid to a country it is accompanied by the US military. In Haiti some years back, the US sent troops with no other country doing so. The recent Ebola outbreak in Africa saw US troops sent to the area. How are troops going to fight a medical outbreak? No doubt, they are there for other reasons.
Obscure one’s economic interests. Who among you believes the invasion of Iraq was for weapons of mass destruction? Or the constant threats against Iran are for their nuclear program? Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and no one has presented firm evidence Iran intends to produce nuclear weapons. The West has been interfering in the Middle East since the British in the late 19th century. It is all about oil and the control over the resources. In fact, if one researches the cause of wars over the last hundred years, you will always find economics was a major component driving the rush to war for most of them.
Monopolize the flow of information. This mainly entails setting the narrative by which all subsequent events can be based upon or interpreted in such a way as to reinforce the narrative. The narrative does not need to be true; in fact, it can be anything that suits the monopoliser as long as it is based loosely on some event. It is critical to have at least majority control of media and the ability to control the message so the flow of information is consistent with the narrative. In the last few months, I have seen this played out on mainstream media concerning the Ukrainian and Syrian conflict, the Skripal case, and Syria’s alleged use of chemical weapons.
Just over the last year, we have all been subjected to propaganda in one form or another. Remember the US wanting to bomb Syria because of the sarin gas attack, it was later determined to be false (see Seymour Hersh ‘Whose Sarin’). The shoot down of MH17 was immediately blamed on Russia by the west without any convincing proof (setting the narrative). It amazes me just how fast the story died after the initial saturation in the media. When I awoke that morning in July, I heard on the news PM Tony Abbot blaming Russia for the incident only hours afterward. How could he know Russia shot down the plane? The investigation into the incident had not even begun, so I suspect he was singing from the West’s hymnbook in a standard setting the narrative scenario.
Yet at general assembly U N western s***s keep repeating that Russia was behind it even last week.
Unfortunately Ruslan Ostashko is the one needing diapering. His forensic talents aren’t up to this case. The two photos taken in the same second show different places. The slight differences are obvious to the naked eye. The poison was in a perfume bottle, in a sealed carton, in order to be smuggled into UK. Counterfeit luxury products are common everywhere.
The UK police have identified the two men who poisoned the Skripals. They visited on Russian passports. Whatever their identities, they are truly bastards. Whether they are mafia or spies, their target was Mr. Skripal. Mafia vs mafia and spy vs spy ethics are nonsense. Let them all kill each other. If Ms. Skripal wasn’t their target then their ethics are no worse than that of US armed drone operators.
An incidental detail from the UK police report is most damning. When the accused were done perfuming the Skripals, they disposed of the bottle (and box) in a “charity collection box”. Either they didn’t know the difference between this and a trash bin, which should damn whatever society they hail from, or they knowingly, cynically, sadistically targeted some poor soul who would receive the charity.
What society breeds such men? Will they be elected to the Duma?
Tell me you’re joking or impersonating the most brainwashed specimen of slavish British subject ever to visit the Vineyard, to show the depths of dangerous silliness they can descend to.
If it is either, Bravo! Good work, mate!
Hail Britannia, Britannia Rules Disease! Mental disease, that is.
Yup….it is claimed the two arrived late morning in Salisbury to put the N on the door….but the Skripals had left home at 9.15 am and never went back…..spray bottle used….but Rowley found a sealed packet with the nozzle and container separate………UK land of impossibilities.
All governments and police departments cheat and lie. This makes it difficult for us netizens to know what happened in Salisbury, England on 4 March 2018, or in Gatwick Airport on 2 March 2018 (at exactly 16:22:43). Naturally, we’re suspicious of the tidbits of evidence that the UK government and police drop on us. But in the case of the two airport photos, once it is recognized that the two corridors are slightly different (or the camera placements slightly different), we can be almost certain that the photos are honest. For if the photos had been doctored in some ways we can’t detect, then it’s extremely unlikely that such skillful operators would put identical datestamps with unidentical corridors. So what some netizens thought proved deceit actually proves that these were honest tidbits, and this increases the likelihood that some other tidbits are honest.
Maybe the tidbit about the “charity collection box” is a police fabrication, or an earnest lie of Mr. Rowley. Maintain healthy skepticism. The point of my post was that if anyone dropped a bottle of contact poison into a charity collection box he or she is a terrible, subhuman being. So the narrative that the assassins were agents of Russia casts an aspersion on Russia beyond ordinary crime and spyfare.
URGENTLY!
The results of the week with Sergei Mikheev. Tsargrad TV 07.09.18
Topics:
Should there be a Ukrainian blitzkrieg in the Donbass?
How long will the “business of the Violins” live?
What will the new provocations with the use of chemical weapons in Syria lead to?
The hole in the Soyuz – whose hand is it?
How did the business coach Tony Robbins blow up the social network?
What is the reason for adolescents’ criminal romance?
Goodbye, Motherland: why did the elite rush abroad?
Other Topics
Video – you can change the subtitle to English
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmnK30QkogM
PS: I used the google translator. My Russian is worse than my English
Clarification
How long will the “business of the Violins” – this means – “the Skripals’ fairy tale” live?
Nikolai Starikov: In the “Skripals’ Case” there is an analogy with the murder of Litvinenko
In the “The Case of the Skrypals,” there is an analogy with the murder of Litvinenko. Everything unfolded around the same scenario – the story was told about poisoning, however, then there were no sanctions, and the provocation failed.
Since Litvinenko was not poisoned by radioactive substances, it was impossible to prove the poisoning, the British then said that they would not cooperate with the Russian side, and there is still no evidence of death.
Today the same situation, the matter comes to a standstill. What happened to the Skripals? Where are they? Are they alive? We do not know at all.
The British have a certain pattern of organizing an anti-Russian provocation, which they are building in this way. This provocation was done under a certain package of sanctions to pressure Russia. Prove we can not do anything to anyone. Back they can not play – this is a loss of face for the whole Western press. It was necessary, apparently, to sacrifice this unfortunate person – a woman who allegedly sprinkled this ballonchikom. Otherwise, why should I impose sanctions?
Someone became ill. Something incomprehensible happened. Evidence that this is Russia, too. Therefore, in this scenario, there must be death. But who has already died? Who organized it? I think you all understand perfectly.
(Google translation)
Original article – https://izborsk-club.ru/15804
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6146905/We-DIDNT-win-war-PETER-HITCHENS-writes-provocative-book-challenging-think-WW2.html
So….perhaps they learnt nothing since then which explains where it is now…….delusional russophobic hysteria….
…little englander empire upset about Russian navy sailing down the “English ” channel……
I have a somewhat different “theory”. — It is based on a number of snippets and quips I have gathered (unfortunately, while I collect and archive tons of stuff, I am not very disciplined and my referencing-system is lousy) mostly from Russian sources over the span of time since the beginning of this hoax. The most recent “show us, send us the fingerprints…” is part of the pattern that forms from this collection. Again and gain, the Russians have politely (tongue-in-cheek) said to their British counterparts, in effect, “tsk, tsk… this is, we are sorry to say, really not up to the usually high British standards of obfuscation and deception. British diplomacy and intellgience operations have seen better days.”
So, let’s generate some model-explanation options:
1. May and her gang are deperate? — Ok, for sure, but if you are desperate, you need the help of pros instead of pasting stuff up while under the influence of who-knows what.
2. British intelligence operations are in the hands of incompetents (as the Russians say). — Yes, possible, but then it would be superfluous for the Russians to say so, in direct address to the British, not as an off-the-cuff press conference remark shot out into the blue, because if it is true, there is no one who can hear the Russian message.
3. The British no longer have control over the ladder of operational interfaces down into the ranks of the police and forensic investigators. — E.g., where are the visas? Good question, forensics people scratch their heads, the political hacks didn’t have time to issue an order to the document-forgery department. Hmmm. — This is possible, as a sub-option to Nr. 2 and it would reflect or mirror the situation in the US where, now, CIA people are coming out of the woodwork to call out John Brennan, for example, for being simply incompetent, not qualified for the job of CIA Director, an operational know-nothing, an analytical know-less-than-nothing, and *therefore* a political hack.
4. People who know the internal make-up and constitution of the British intelligence operational setup planted the Skripal idea to seed chaos in MI6 et al. — This is possible. MI6 et al. were part of the Russia-Dossier gambit. May is running Skrpial-2 for the sake of Idlib, yes, but she is also running off the gang plank that is being sawed off in the US. (Funny thing: the official CIA profile of Gina Haspel does not mention she was station chief in London. With the plethora of reasons not to have her as Director, it makes one wonder what special qualifications she has for the job. I would not jump to the conclusion that she does not have them.)
There are so many holes in this story. Why would Julia Skripal stay in Britain, wen she has a house, a boyfriend and a job in Russia?
These stories are part of a larger project, to demonise Russia and in a bigger scenario to get Russia thrown out of the UNSC. To Make Britain Great Again.
Here is a (somewhat long, but excellent) article of Thierry Meyssan about the dark side of British policies: http://www.voltairenet.org/article200375.html
What strikes me the most is as follows. We can have all kinds of opinions about te actions of MI6, Mossad, CIA and the like, but I have never regarded tem as incompetent.
And what I see here is incompetence. Are they in some kind of panic?
Cheers, Rob
Hah! If it wasn’t so fraught with danger of a world-class mistake, this would be ludicrous. If we survive the novichok incidents, it will be.
The critical evidence in the ‘Novichok’ case, is not so much the photos but the airline passenger list. The fact that two suspects going by the names Alexander Petrov & Rusland Boshirov were on the plane is uncontested. Aeroflot has not deigned it nor have the Russians. So these two suspects fly back and forth from Moscow on Russian passports.
The question is, Did the Russian authorities give these two suspects their passports? If they did then the Russian authorities know who these two are.
If the authorities didnt give them the passports then they are fake and the Russians authorities need to investigate and find who these two are.
Like it or not the trail leads back to Moscow, thats where these two got off the plane and so its Moscow’s problem to find out where they are.
If Moscow can show that these two suspects come from the US are somewhere else, great. Until they can do that it reflects badly on Russia because thats where all the evidence leads.
It’s a shame that many of the commenters here make the same mistakes of the mainstream media. Try not to mistake media opinion for public opinion. There are plenty of Brits who regard the Skripal case as 100% BS. But of course there are others predisposed to hate whoever they are told to hate (for even longer than 5 minutes!) The ‘flagship’ BBC radio 4 morning programe, Today, has lost 800,000 listeners in something like the past year. Newspaper circulation continues to plummet. The only people who take the media seriously are the media.
And as for the ‘intelligence services’ Tory austerity has cut these to the bone. I’ve been told there are very few Russia specialists in the Foreign and Commonwealth office. They are making it up as they go along in order to get more funding.
Shame on them of course. But bigger shame on the journalists who are party to all this. Maybe they don’t have children.
No doubt that these 2 “perpetrators” is known by somebody, and may even have seen them self on the photos in various media. If they are innocent tourists or business men, who was unlucky to be on the wrong place at the wrong time, then they should maybe step forward and claim their innocence?
Given that western governments are owned lock, stock and barrel by international corporations, it appears irrelevant whether the British public knows the truth or not. All they can do is vote for an alternative that is also owned. We’ve lost! Get used to it!
From a movie, (Jerry Maguire): “Show me the money! Show me the money!”. if you prefer Amerikkkan advertising jingles: “Where’s the Beef?
Another way of saying the above is : Where are the Skripals? Show me at the very least the Russian citizen! Without the Skripals there is no body , no habeas corpus, no crime. The onus has always been on the Keystone Kops of the MI6 and the CIA and various other flunkies. One would assume the CIA is a bit more efficient in spycraft than the toffs of the entitled class in the MI6.