Check out the email I got tonight from ‘C’:
Saker,
I felt your despair and thought about what to say that might help you stay strong. Please allow me to remind you of two things that you know to be true:
One, are the people of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kirkov and Dnipopetrovsk, Mariupol and Odessa not essentially the same people?
Two, have these people not surprised you many times in the past few months, confounding your gloomy conclusions?
We must all learn not to take our fears as prophesy.
‘C’ is absolutely correct. This is what I replied:
You wrote: One, are the people of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kirkov and Dnipopetrovsk, Mariupol and Odessa not essentially the same people?
True.
You also wrote: Two, have these people not surprised you many times in the past few months, confounding your gloomy conclusions?
True again.What can I say? You are correct and thanks for reminding me of that.
I often marvel at the kindness and wisdom of so many of you, my friends and readers, I am grateful for the many times in these terrible recent months when you have given me a reason not to despair.
Thanks, ‘C’, and thanks to you all.
Kind regards and good night everybody,
The Saker
It’s been hard for Russophiles to stay optimistic for a few decades, but there is reason for hope.
Just like the Russians in the former Ukraine, many Russians in the RF dream/have dreamed about their country becoming a “normal” western one. Many have a knee-jerk distrust for their state and assume that anything the wailing wall street PR Leviathan says in contrast to the official Russian state line must be true. They have a poor understanding of geopolitics and socio-economic history. I know that’s a sweeping indictment, but they have long been in a position where there is no believable, well-developed ideological aparatus other than wailing wall street’s. It heavily pollutes most intelligent Russians’ world view. I hope the war in Ukraine is clearing the air. I’d like to know how many of the idiots who held meetings protesting Russian media coverage of Ukraine still cling to those views. Hopefully American hubristic stupidity and the development of Eurasianism snowball. I think forthcoming financial and energy crises will help.
I also think that Russians on both side of the border are all generally most concerned with their basic economic security. Besides, You only get the “ideological-community-identity” that you can afford. That’s why the debate over whether the USSR’s decline was mainly economic or mainly ideological is an unresolvable chicken vs egg situation. Two sides of the same coin. You can think of the implications for our situation today.
The wild card is how far wall street/nato is willing to push. Without enough intervention on their part, as Ukraine falls apart, Novorossia will come to be seen as the best option economically and will gain more popular support. As time goes on I think it’ll dawn on more and more UKies that they’re not on a path to EU membership and never will be.
Things are going well, it’s up to nato to push in the direction of nuclear war, otherwise Novorossia will end up with 8-9 provinces at the very least.
If you are an American , as I am, you NEED to be aware of the intensity of the war-hysteria and irrational, imperialist hatred being directed at Russia. It seems to be spiraling out of control. I don’t think I need to remind anyone how INCREDIBLY Reckless, irresponsible and dangerous this is, forget for a moment (as if you could), the moral and intellectual baseness of it.. I offer this from a Recent Paul Craig Roberts essay :
“Twenty-two US senators have introduced into the 113th Congress, Second Session, a bill, S.2277, “To prevent further Russian aggression toward Ukraine and other sovereign states in Europe and Eurasia, and for other purposes.” The bill is before the Committee on Foreign Relations.”
S.2277 is a real fact. Not just hot air. If you are an American find out who your Senator is and let them know how you feel about America being nudged toward a possible (Nuclear) war in Europe – all for a nasty little “regime change” operation that’s going south on them…I will contact my entire congressional delegation to remind them they don’t have my permission to begin this war for the IMF.
Nora,
Thank you!!!! For helping me find the place to translate.
Many thanks really:-)
Carmel by the Sea
Dear Saker,
I would like to join all those who tell you not to despair.
You forgot to add to your equation another player, the Kiev Junta. Remember the Carlos twitter?
“As soon as the Malaysia Airlines B777 disappeared the Kiev military authority informed us of the shooting down. How did they know? (6.00)”
“The Ministry of the Interior did know that there were fighter aircraft in the area, but the Ministry of Defense didn’t. (7.15)”
“The military confirm that it was Ukraine, but it is not known where the order came from. (7.31)”
(Sorry I have difficulties with the HTML tags, I want to stress that three different entities are mentioned that behaved differently: the 1) Kiev military authority, the 2) Ministry of the Interior, the 3) Ministry of Defense
The Kiev Junta is a bunch of lunatics and mafia dons not only fighting the Russians but also fighting each other. 1) Some would be losing their assets, if Russia completely shuts down the border (these thieves thrived best when they could play both sides). In your “Briefings Combined for July 24-25, 2014”, there was the information that the local metallurgy in Mariupol is almost finished – these are Tarutas assets! 2) Some have ties to US firms (but Shell has also joint ventures with Russia in the Artic); 3) Finally, the Right Sector, who doesn’t want neither the EU nor Russia, they just want their little Banderastan, where they can hold their parades and hail their heroes. We still remember our history and from the first days of the Maidan I had the impression that they are the SA of our days, rioting in the Streets (I checked with my husband if he remembered that the SA/Nazi party members ever beat up other party members in the Reichstag and we agreed that at least this didn’t happen ;o) The SA was killed off when Hitler made a deal with big business. Would Parubij not know this?
Listen to your own words: You yourself said that “All the signs are the Banderastan is collapsing under the weight of its own stupidity and blind hatred.” The big question is, does it collaps before Russia looses its patience with the Western hysteria. Perhaps I have read too much Le Carre and am hopelessly outdated, but I think that the FSB never lost their KGB skills and Putin – contrary to the dummies in Washington – listens to them. So, he would know what’s happening behind the scenes.
Another fact from our own history as told to me by my father: As soon as the fascists are on the street you just shut up to survive. We should be proud of the courageous Novorussian people fighting against the Nazis –they are in line with the unfortunately far too few – and coming too late – resistance fighters in Germany like the Geschwister Scholl.
So, Kopf hoch!
Saker,
You are a very busy person. You work, you have a family to attend to and then you have this third job– the blog.
Take some time for yourself and your family.
Take time to relax too.
Life is not all leisure nor is it all work.
Pray. Relax.
Even Saker birds take time to enjoy the fresh air.
:-)
The west is ripe for God’s judgment for turning its back on Him.
America today is not the America of 100 years ago. It is not the America that her founding fathers envisioned, and she is certainly NOT what the Puritans desired when the crossed the ocean to escape the tyranny of papal Rome.
God judges the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day. (Psalm 7:11)
My consolation is that that God is always on the side of truth and righteousness.
Anonymous at 5:50,
I agree. We should certainly contact our representatives. I have many a time called them and spoken against further wars. Of course, they write back a polite letter or email and the warring continues. At least I do my part to let them know I am in no agreement of wars and more wars.
Having said that I doubt the Crazies in the Basement (Neocons ) will be able to convince our Colonels & Generals to start an outright war against Russia.
Hi saker,
Why not some concerned RF citizens take out big aids in some major EU news papers, especially in Holland, and demand governments ask UKR government to release ATC recordings for sake of truth and peace? Ask the question of what are they hiding? If Putin can take a aid out in Ny Times for Syria last year, It ought be able to do it for RF’s behalf.
We need to organize like last year to pressure senator to vote no. We need to get on their face book, their email, and call them. We need find way to get mass aware of it.
Refer to the many quotes online about tyranny and government by the founding fathers. This is a classic deversion strategy to channel domestic outrage and fear to an external ‘enemy’. Where’s the global psychiatric response team when you need them?
We know the Saker is clean because he occasionally concedes that he is wrong; he is a truth lover.
Sorry, regarding my post earlier on, I was too fast, of course I meant
“I checked with my husband if he remembered ever heard of that the SA/Nazi party members ever rioted in the Reichstag and we agreed that at least this didn’t happen ;o ..(we aren’t that old!).
By the way, thinking about it again, it could have happened, I have to look it up.
(1) There is a gradient of “Russian-ness” from east to west. This gradient is really important. Are not Bandera and Strelkov essentially (racially) the same?
(2) The only thing reequired for evil to flourish is for good people to do nothing, an extremely common occurrence. The little Eichmann’s of 1930’s Germany were just as easily terrorized.
I am looking for some feed back on a video I just watched.
Bringing into Balance the Military Instrument of Power
I have 2 questions but would like to hear other input as well.
1. Does General Dempsey actually believe what he is saying? Now considering the position he is in, it would be a poor assumption to think he is not a very intelligent person. So is it just too many years of listening to programming from those above him in the power chain which has twisted his thinking. Or, is he fully aware of what he is putting forth and willing to lie through his teeth to progress the agenda of the current elites?
2. The reply General Dempsey gives to the last question suggests the military is looking at a significant restructuring of the military to focus more on a global approach. My question is does this hint at a preparation for a larger theater or global conflict they are preparing for? Or is this just the logical next step when your the global enforcement instrument?
I can tell you, watching this did not leave me at ease. I look forward to any input, in answer to my questions or additional remarks.
btw, there are links to additional videos of the Aspen Security Forum available here.
http://www.defense.gov/home/features/2014/0714_aspen/
To add more: If I would live in Charkow or Odessa and wanted to fight the Banderas, what would I do? Organize a partisan movement myself or, instead, join the DNR/LNR militia?
Last but not least, comparing the situation now with that of German occupation is not fair. The point is that the danger is much different. You have an Ukrainian passport, use a h instead of a g and some ukrainian words, answer “cherojam salo” if necessary, that’s not that much in comparison with the consequences of German occupation. And there is a huge difference between foreign occupation in comparison with insanity of parts of the own population.
The people of Novorussia are absolutely amazing and cause for hope.
OTOH the powers that be are absolutely ruthless. Nuland said they have invested $5 billion in the Ukranian project. They will not give up easily. I understand your feeling despair at times.
Is there a conflict anywere in the world today that is not about resources, usually energy resources?
From
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-25/company-which-joe-bidens-son-director-prepares-drill-shale-gas-east-ukraine
“In a nutshell Ukraine (or rather its puppetmasters) has decided to let no crisis (staged or otherwise) or rather civil war, go to waste, and while the fighting rages all around, Ukrainian troopers are helping to install shale gas production equipment near the east Ukrainian town of Slavyansk, which was bombed and shelled for the three preceding months, according to local residents cited by Itar Tass. The reason for the scramble? Under peacetime, the process was expected to take many years, during which Europe would be under the energy dictatorship of Putin. But throw in some civil war and few will notice let alone care that a process which was expected to take nearly a decade if not longer while dealing with broad popular objections to fracking, may instead be completed in months!”
Grieving Dutch minister made Europe re-think Russia sanctions
Cui bono?
MH17, the gift that keeps on giving [provided you’re a Kiev Fascist]
Baboo here,
“…the NATO alliance is not primarily a military alliance. It is a colony-management system for the USA.”
With all due respect Saker but the head of the rotting fish is not in the USA. Tel Aviv, Vatican City, City of London are more likely candidates.
Mayor of Lvov residence attacked, RPG. Mayor of Poltava shot dead.
5-day delay from now to UA being able to even sign policing agreement for MH17 foreign investigation due to ‘collapse’ of government.
No change, there will be further escalation on both sides (US/RF).
Semi-automatic translation:
The Ukrainian government fell on MILITARY EXPENDITURE.
This means they do not have the money to pay salaries to soldiers, they will have to do elections that de facto will photograph the split of Ukraine, that NATO is not going to spend a dime in this war, that the EU has no intention to take responsibility for anything, that Ukraine joins the long list of failed states, now.
Their Scenery of Titanic.
The end of the NATO (who need enemies with friend like this?)
I already see the soldiers who return home on foot to help families to plow the fields …
The Art of War.
Ding, game over, enter another contendent… but… Stay with us. Wait a very little, only 4 minutes of advertising.
This is the Monty Pyton agenda.
I hate the the Nazis of Illinois.
There are reports of leaks of a phone conversation between Poroshenko and Obama following the downing of MH-17. I am somewhat skeptical that the phone line itself would be directly tapped, so this needs a good translation to English to clearly determine the provenance of the call.
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.en/novorus.info/news/analytics/25674-sensaciya-ili-operaciya-specsluzhb.html
WARNING of imminent WWIII!
I now think MH17 crashed exactly where it was planned, right in the center of Donbass. The cities form an protective ring around it but the crash site in the middle of field is the perfect spot for an Ukie / NATO airborne invasion.
The Retired Russian air force colonel Aleksand Zhilin claimed the NATO plan was to crash the plane in the Southern Calderon so that the Ukie troops now trapped there could be relieved by airborne NATO forces. He said that this plan failed as the plane somehow diverted north and landed in NAF held area.
Zhilin says that based on the Russian ATC radar data – confirmed by the transponder data stored in the FlightRadar24 database – the plane flew some 10 km past the crash site, somehow magically turned around and crashed coming from the east. The pattern of debris however proves the exact opposite: the plane came from the west.
http://ai-zhilin.livejournal.com/1419422.html
The fact is, that the GPS data received by MH17 and forwarded to Russian ATC by its transponder beeps and to the FlightRadar24 database through its automatic dependent surveillance-broadcast (ADS-B) beeps is 20 km from where the plane was at the time.
This can only be explained in two ways:
1) The false GPS data came form an escort fighter spoofing HM17
2) MH17 was fed false GPS by the GPS jammer on the escort fighter.
https://twitter.com/PetriKrohn/status/492944857405878272
Both of these techniques were on the menu in the NATO SeaBreeze exercise. RIA Novosti now reports that GPS manipulation had been observed in the area.
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140725/191270394/Pilots-Reported-Problems-with-GPS-in-Ukraine-Prior-to-MH17-Crash.html
***
This is exactly the kind of end result that NATO would like to achieve with their false-flag MH17 attack. The security threat posed by these troops / “unarmed” police can only be offset by a tenfold number of *armed* Russian troops. (Or a Russian no-fly, no-drive zone over all of Donbass.)
One must assume that the real mission of these troops is to prepare the lading zone for a NATO or Ukrainian airborne offensive, or alternatively, an Ukrainian armed breakthrough. It does not matter if the troops are unarmed. Their role is to act as the eyes and ears of the invading force. They will hide in the bushes – looking for “evidence” – and report on the movement of Novorossiyan forces with their satellite communication gear.
Australia has “promised” to send 200 armed troops. These are already in the UK I hear. With whom did they agree about this mission? Kiev? I do not think anyone asked Novorossiya or even Russia. How the hell do they think they will get in? On the heels of the of a Ukie tank battalion?
(It is more likely the Australians would need to spearhead the tank battalion, and act as the infantry protection Ukie tanks are desperately lacking.)
To quote the Malaysian pro-NATO press:
“You need radar, reconnaissance, commandos, anti-tank weapons, attack helicopters… Well, that’s starting to look like a small-scale war,” Klep told Dutch broadcaster NOS.
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/securing-mh17-site-a-dangerous-tightrope-act-experts-warn
continued…
…continued
We are now waiting for direct US and NATO aggression on the Ukraine and Novorossiya. Russia needs to make the choice now; whether defend Novorossiya or allow total NATO occupation of the Ukraine.
It is clear that all NATO actions are aimed at provoking Russia to act militarily. This would allow the US to isolate Russia from its “International Community”. It is widely believed that this is a trap and Russia should not fall for it.
Yet other are saying that Putin has a cunning plan, and after two years of US occupation Russia would somehow magically turn the tide. Maybe.
On the other hand, NATO very much wants all of Ukraine. They very much hope that Russia will not intervene and kill their troops. (Russkies killing Russkies is always a good thing.) They want to occupy Ukraine without any effort.
Russia is now between Scylla and Charybdis. Both alternatives are horrible. To decide Russia must resolve which is the outcome NATO wants – and chose the other.
Russia must understand that NATO is now the reincarnation of the Third Reich.
@Yonatan:
Very hard to believe. Where is the link to the file?
Espina said
Different time, different place, same recipe, keep the faith Saker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n730FWycrTY
Best Espina
@the original Paul:
I strongly believe that intelligence is not correlated with the ability to discern and embrace truth, in fact, I suspect that there may be an inverse correlation. (Very intelligent individuals often have [well hidden] egos, at least regarding their intellectual abilities. Having once adopted a position it becomes very difficult for them to recognize error and change it.) I’m convinced that many of the individuals we see making the most outrageous claims would “pass” a “lie detector” test – they actually believe what they say.
“…it is as a child you shall enter the kingdom of heaven…”
Sophistication, knowledge, intelligence, even wisdom are not required to see Truth – only openness.
John
Europe will flip and join Russia. It will happen in an instant with an innocuous statement by an obscure bureaucrat. It will be as if it always was. There will be no going back. Nobody will remember the past.
Europe will flip and join Russia. It will happen in an instant with an innocuous statement by an obscure bureaucrat. It will be as if it always was. There will be no going back. Nobody will remember the past.
Regarding the latest Senate resolution to stem “Russian aggression”.
To borrow and slightly modify the wonderful image of the writer and thinker Michael Lind, the Senate is a ship of delusional fools, led by Obama as Captain Ahab, and Russia is Moby Dick. The intensity of the hatred felt by these corrupt or senile old men, which is aimed and directed at Russia, is so irrational that it is leading them to take measures that will be extremely detrimental not only for Russia, but which in the end will prove even more so for the interests of the US and the welfare of its hapless and clueless citizens.
Soon, even erstwhile allies will recoil in horror when they realize what destruction and desolation these lunatics are prepared to visit upon Europe and many other parts of the world, in the ultimate paroxystic fit of rage at their own impotence and fast declining influence.
How will they tackle all the fires which they are lighting up simultaneously in the Middle-East, in the Ukraine, and soon in Asia. With an imploding economy and the loss of confidence of a good part of the population. Instead of accepting and making the best of the inevitable geopolitical decline of the U.S., they are switching it into overdrive turbo mode and leading us to a very hard landing indeed.
Russia and everybody else will have to batten down the hatches and weather the storm. My bet is that in the end Russia comes out on top.
All the best to you Saker, and to all of the readers of your blog.
American Russophile
@ Angelika 26 JULY, 2014 08:44
“ever heard of that the SA/Nazi party members ever rioted in the Reichstag”
Yes, this is the most “positive” point in the current situation, the original Nazis weren’t as stupid as the current ones, they had no armed conflict going on on the territory and didn’t bomb their OWN infrastructure into oblivion but boosted their industrial production.
So, may be the end result will be different and the Ukies will just crash and burn out of sheer idiocy no matter what outside “help” could be.
567fgh 12:24
Agreed. That is why it needs a good translation. The link was at the bottom of my message. Here it is again (as translated and original source)
translated using yandex
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.en/novorus.info/news/analytics/25674-sensaciya-ili-operaciya-specsluzhb.html
original
http://novorus.info/news/analytics/25674-sensaciya-ili-operaciya-specsluzhb.html
Angelika,
Americans everywhere need to read what you just wrote, for too many reasons to count. When we whine here about not being able to do anything or bluster about guns, we’re just revealing our laziness, paranoia and cowardice. Any German who stood up in any way to something like that deserves Eternal praise, but human recognition would be nice too!
Thank you.
@the original Paul 26 JULY, 2014 08:49
ROFLMAO!
I think that Dempsey is at imminent risk of cognitive dissonance blowup, such a HUGE pile of bullshit about the “American position” is likely unbearable.
OTOH what truly scares me is that the idiot interviewer is absolutely clueless and light years away from “reality based” geopolitics.
Threat of another false flag / “terrorist attack”
I looked for a source and more info. It’s all over the place in Russian now. Here:
https://vk.com/strelkov_info
Scroll down to video of guy with beard & glasses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9uTWosShpQ
But now with English subtitles –
Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_eDgYDn49s
Anton Guryanov officially announces:
The Resistance received the information that in the next few days neo-nazi are planning a terroristic act ( one or several ) in large cities of Ukraine. Mr. Avakov and his deputy Shkiryakov during last days already provide informational cover-up for those actions. The minimal goal being imposing a total dictatorship over Ukraine pretending it was Russia implementing their terroristic acts. The optimal goal adds invasion of Ukraine by Polish, Lithuanian and maybe other NATO members’ troops.
The operation, codenamed “Spalahu Dembrewi” would be supervised by SBU major calling himself Alexey Nikonov, who is close to mr. Nalivaichenko. This information was provided by hi-rank officials in Kiev, who are concerned about their future after putchists in Kiev would inevitably fall.
So, neo-nazi of Ukraine following the footsteps of their WW2 nazi precursors. They are about implementing a clone of “Reichstag Fire”.
They are following the suite of their role models, but what can common people hearing this address do about it? In the coming days do avoid public places and crowds. Mass transit services to be avoided if possible or their use to be minimized, especially subway service. Keep an eye on your children. Supervise cellars and porches in your appartment buildinds, there should be no unknown persons unloading unknown luggage into those places. Spread this announcement among your relatives, friends, neighbors, colleagues, anyone you can. And may the Lord help us through.
-Bic
I’d like to add to the comments regarding the inability to adequately protest or resist the “kakiistocracy,” that we live under in the USA. It is prohibitively expensive to take time to travel to some far off location and engage in any kind of civil disobedience with a similarly minded group. The only options for dissent since for me the early 1980’s has been to live contrarily to US cultural imperialism on a private basis, like the work I elect to do, or the lifestyle I choose. Other forms of resistance seem to have been diffused by government think tanks and a uniform policy to eliminating dissent regionally, nationally, and internationally using consistent methodologies. especially through ever tightening the noose of financial control which severely crimps one’s ability to be disobedient toward authority, and more and more to live outside of the imposed work life style, more and more since the reign of Reagan.
Our representatives do not really care about average citizens. Our culture, bases on competition and personal greed, considers only established wealthy exceptional input, and the rest have been marginalized and excluded from the debate.
Secondly, as well as war being based on resources, which is a given, they are concurrently also struggles for power, control, and wealth. Neither the Russian, American, or any governing polity seems in any kind of haste to reduce its dependence on environment destroying energy sources, regardless of the looming catastrophes that will eventually result from their ever accelerating abuse, by for example adopting lifestyles opposed to their overuse. It is impossible for the conditioned American culture to step back from, for example, it’s addiction to the automobile. Such behavior, such protest, runs against the grain of our individual need to think that the heavens have ordained each of us to be special, and exempt from the final results of environmental degradation.
American culture has been conditioned to see our ruling class as god like, the god like representatives of a god like people, who will judge even our neighbors to the point of absurd hypocrisy. our ruling class behaves accordingly, hence it has become this lawless “kakistocracy.”
How will this situation play itself out is what worries us, in my opinion. We are limited to staying united in an effort to celebrate any kind of resemblance of “truthfulness,” in the light of all this, and come what may.
“The Resistance received the information that in the next few days neo-nazi are planning a terroristic act ( one or several ) in large cities of Ukraine.”
False flag killing of mayors in the western part of ukr?
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/07/26/uk-ukraine-crisis-mayor-idUKKBN0FV08B20140726
Saker , Please read the latest from Paul Craig Roberts .
It’s a must read . Uncle Vlad should stop calling the bought off leaders of the EU ” our partners ” . They are only a bunch of criminals that should be given a very hard lesson in my opinion . Their behavior following the MH-17 disaster has been pathetic .
http://www.infowars.com/does-russia-and-humanity-have-a-future/
And thank you for work. Vital.
I want desperately to believe that Russia is on the side of humanity, empathy and decency.
Could someone please justify this to me:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/25/russia-research-identify-users-tor
The real way to fight disinformation is with truth. Does the Kremlin really fear somebody’s opinion? It should trust it’s people more.