I am giving serious consideration to boycotting the next debate and I want to tell you why:
There are so many of you who I’ve met in Iowa and New Hampshire who have expressed to me how frustrated you are that the DNC and corporate media are essentially trying to usurp your role as voters in choosing who our Democratic nominee will be.
I share your concerns, and I’m sure that all our supporters throughout the country do as well.
The 2016 Democratic Primary election was rigged by the DNC and their partners in the corporate media against Bernie Sanders.
In this 2020 election, the DNC and corporate media are rigging the election again, but this time against the American people in the early voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada.
They are attempting to replace the roles of voters in the early states, using polling and other arbitrary methods which are not transparent or democratic, and holding so-called debates which are not debates at all but rather commercialized reality television meant to entertain, not inform or enlighten
In short, the DNC and corporate media are trying to hijack the entire election process.
In order to bring attention to this serious threat to our democracy, and ensure your voice is heard, I am giving serious consideration to boycotting the next debate on October 15th. I will announce my decision within the next few days.
With my deepest, and warmest aloha, thank you all again for your support.
– Tulsi
Brilliant move! The MSM now has to interview her if they dare. If they do she will make them look stupid. This is right out of the Soral-Dieudonne Playbook.
Maybe, but I would have preferred if she could dump the Dem party and run as an independent.
There is not only one devil.
Remember, my name is legion
she need to take on not the Administration, but the system, the regime.
Then I could really support her.
So far, I just observe and have not made up my mind that she really convinces me.
I have faith in Hassan Nasrallah, Ali Khamenei and Vladimir Putin (in that order).
All others I only monitor :-)
All I am doing right now is trying to give more exposure to Trump’s arguments (because on impeachment he is in the right)
And I try to give more exposure to Gabbard because all others boycott her and because I mostly like what I see from her (but not everything!).
Last time around the choice was clear:
Trump or war with Russia
That would be terrible for both Russia AND the US. So it was a no-brainer.
This time around I have not made up my mind.
(FYI: I don’t vote anyway, since I don’t have a US citizenship, even though I could get it, I refuse it on principle).
Kind regards
The Saker,
When Tulsi Gabbard appeared on the political scene, my first impression was that she was a replacement for Hillary Clinton. I still think so, bearing in mind her name was on the Roster of the Council on Foreign Relations.
Even if she does become President, can she do better than Trump when it comes to the Deep State, which either influences or control’s all the Government agencies, not to mention the press ? I don’t think so. Elections in the US are a theater performance where the Deep State wins every time. Remember what happened to JFK when he went against the Deep State.
Well, you either try to work through the system, or you start a revolution.
Is Trump a knight on a white horse? Definitely not…but he has certainly been detrimental to the empire. He has exposed the existence of the Deep State. He has substantially degraded the trust in the lying media. He has not started any wars (yet) and is apparently trying to scale down the existing ones. No wonder the proponents of the empire hate him.
As for Tulsi, here is her take on CFR. To me it sounds reasonable. She obviously someone who wants to work within the system and as such she has to take part in it. After all, she is already a member of some other very corrupt institutions, such as US Congress and Democratic Party.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSWyjb1uU6w
The American people need to boycott the Democratic and Republican parties in the next elections. They need to vote for anyone but Democrat or Republican: it can be Libertarian, Green, Independent or any other party representative running locally. It matters naught. It just should not be anyone from these treasonous parties as members of the Senate, Congress, President or even at the state level.
Boycott the Democratic and Republican parties!
Blue you are right on, because if we keep voting for either the “democrats” or “republicans” we will keep getting what we’ve already gotten “which is an absolute catastrophe, which the rest of the world can clearly see, even if many Americans cannot.
Thank you one thousand times.
Libertarianism is hatred of others, insatiable greed and unbounded egomania. The very worst of the worse. The only sane vote, in my opinion, is Green (although they will sell out if ever in power, like in Germany)or an anti-capitalist Independent.
She wants to ‘..work within the system’. End of fantasy. The system is irredeemably Evil and must be destroyed if humanity, including Merkins, are to be free, and survive as a species.
Actually, she could be of some real use even if strictly working ’within the system’, but of course that’s a big no-no since her survival instincts — and we are talking about plain physical survival here — correctly tell her what awaits her as her ’due reward’ for betrayal of her dear Pindo compatriots. Her own descent from Hawaii should have been used to promote secession from the US right in accordance with Ro’s submitted conclusion:
”Hawaii shouldn’t even be part of USA, and same for American Samoa , Micronesia Federation, Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Guantanamo and hundreds of other places these pirates took”
And, even more to the point, anyone who wields even the tiniest amount of actual political power inside the US could use that with the aim of extending the franchise (only US citizens today) to become global in scope. The obnoxious swine and scum brought forward at the Pindos’ discretion would then be facing some serious competition if candidates of peoples oppressed by imperialism were to enter the scene.
Again: Tulsi Gabbard has no suchlike intentions whatsoever. She is just another fraudster in the service of Empire.
B.F. Did you read the Wikileaks Clinton and Podesta email dumps ? Tulsi’s name come up often in Clinton, Clinton Campaign and DNC correspondence as an enemy and key figure to smear. Search on Gabbard, read a few.
Clinton was a Goldwater Republican that moved to the Democratic Party. Clinton is at the focal point of marriage between Wall Street, MIC and the DNC. This is a complete antithesis of Gabbard’s core.
I believe Julian Assange, had the clearer picture on his op ed “The Democratic Party is Doomed”. His conclusion was the Dems made a final, fatal mistake to embrace the national intelligence state, which was ultimately republican owned and controlled, and that NIS would fold on them. We are witnessing an Assange prophecy come true today.
Saker is correct, Tulsi should have jumped independent, she may not have won; however, her message, visibility and public impact would have been far more significant. She would have more control over her destiny.
A very large proportion, perhaps even a majority, of the new Democrats elected in 2018 came from the intelligence and military wings of the Deep State. Dems versus Repubs is simply factions of the ruling kakistocracy squabbling over the spoils of serving the rich owners of the country.
Kamala Harris was the New Clinton, melded with a touch of the Obama-brush, but she has proved not marketable, one of the reasons that the Harpie is contemplating another run.
She looks like a manufactured dem version of trump.
I’m currently stepping carefully so as not get into a terrible debate with someone near and dear. She has been influenced by her friends to the point I hardly know what she is. She clearly cannot think objectively and honestly. She despises Trump so clearly he is guilty of this latest Democrat frenzie and must be impeached. She said she read the phone transcript. So, I read the transcript yesterday. I looked at her and said ‘They have nothing. Mostly it was a bunch of butt-kissing, especially by Zelenski’. And I’m not a Trump fan. But there is nothing there to warrant all this impeachment hysteria. Trump is also correct when he says ‘we have to get out of all these stupid wars’. He is totally correct. And look who is screaming and warmongering. Some Republicans and almost all Democrats. They all love war, likely being financial benefactors of them.
I guess I”ve said all that to bring me around to Tulsi. She sounds like a nice lady. I like her none interventionist message. But I saw a clip of her on the View smear Assad, as a hate-filled monster. Maybe, and I hope, she said this because she was ignorant and not because she can’t take the heat or will play politics to gain favour. Look what has happened with Trump. He started out with a majority in the entire government and has not been able to do anything. Not even fix health care! He appears not to have any control over foreign policy, which continues its hegemonic ways regardless of who is President and who is in Congress. It doesn’t seem to really matter. This has become an out of control beast where, as part of the BORG collective, ‘resistance is futile’.
“They all love war, likely being financial benefactors of them.” — more a lust after power, imo.
Given they almost university have a genetic defect — usually in the ankle or foot — that excuses them (and their children) from war duties one could only surmise it is at best ‘love of war’ for others.
Gabbard’s hatred for Assad, an absolute hero, is pretty indicative that she is a phony-as she MUST be. If she told the truth about Syria, you’d never hear from her again or see her on the fakestream media. But she could, just, have said nothing, but she chose not to.
I hear she supports war now.
Hilary Clinton is seventy one years of age, and a vampire, and Tulsi Gabbard at thirty eight years of age and the manufactured Hollywood version of, is deadly.
Good grief, I had no idea HRC was that young!
Still capable of being real threat, I guess.
I’m in New Hampshire. When I vote, I will vote for Tulsi. If she is not on the ballot, I will write her in. For all the good it will do, I will vote my conscience.
And to think, this country has the gall to destroy countries all over the world in the name of ‘democracy’. It really has become pretty pathetic and dispiriting…
sgage,
Exactly my sentiments.
When I hear Hillary Clinton decrying “interference in our democracy,” I feel like screaming “What democracy. Even your own primary was rigged.”
No ‘democracy’, just a capitalist kakistocracy. No ‘interference’ whatsoever by the Russian state, and microscopic click-baiting by one Russian troll-farm. And dedicated and brazen interference by the USA, costing tens of billions, around the world, for decades. Insanity, hypocrisy, mendacity and pure malevolence taken to the utter extreme. That is the great ‘Shining Outhouse on the Dung-heap’ for you.
I’m in Floriduh. When I vote in the primary, I am going to write Tulsi’s name in. That’s because I am registered Republican. Like I said, Floriduh.
For vice-President, I’m thinking Inga Yumasheva. So there.
Are there any references in the press on these primary changes?
I highly doubt it. Right now they are trying to figure out what to do. I don’t doubt Tulsi will follow through and boycott. She will get another bump in the polls. I foresee a Tulsi-Yang ticket in the making.
She should make the statement of protest in the debate. She needs all the exposure she can get.
TV time costs a fortune. She has a few minutes free and the right audience for the primaries.
She should not boycott.
She should go and raise a silent protest.
that was my immediate reaction Larchmonter but Harrick made me stop and think.
but I recouped: your comment is dead right. Boycott nothing! go there and fight in the debate..
protest there
I agree Larchmonter – she was banned from the debate – then she got invited to this one – she should attend it and speak out – its her voice and her message that are good for America..
Tulsi,
The DNC and the RNC were established for the exact purpose of hijacking our elections. That is why they exist in the first place and, yes the media is (and always has been) perfectly happy to cooperate with their operations.
DNC and RNC are corporate entities created by the ruling families to control the US political process.
The DNC and RNC provide a false binary choice for the elections.
In USSR, one party, one candidate, no real choice.
IN USA, two parties, two candidates, no real choice.
CLINTON-BUSH-OBAMA-TRUMP – endless undeclared wars.
The false alternatives for those Presidents:
1992-GHWBUSH, 1996-DOLE
2000-GORE, 2004-KERRY
2008-MCCAIN, 2012-ROMNEY
2016-HRCLINTON
“What difference would it have made at that time?”
If she boycotts the debate, her explanation will be censored or buried and not many people will hear her reasoning.
If she goes ahead with the debate and discusses the rigging and collusion she describes in her message above, then many millions will get the message, first hand, and not censored through the zionazi-gay media filters.
In other words, if she boycotts, she basically silences herself to all but her committed supporters. If she gies ahead, and doesn’t self censor, she will reach many, perhaps millons, who would normally never hear what she has to say.
http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2019/10/will-clintons-destroy-democratic-party.html
From intro of linked article (also posted on zerohedge):
History is full of ironies, and perhaps it will suit the irony gods for The Donald to take down the Republican Party and the Clinton dynasty to destroy the Democratic Party.
Let’s start by stipulating my bias: I would cheer the collapse of both self-serving, venal political parties,
My comment:
I tend to believe that Tulsi should appear but i doubt that controllers of this charade will allow her to speak; reminds me of one of the first dimocrat debates of 2016 when James Webb appeared as a candidate and the creature in charge of the DNC controlled the process and was ramming clinton in as the nominee -he was not allowed to speak more than a couple of seconds and he promptly said it was a charade and quit the run.
I endorse Saker’s thought that a third party run is prob the only way to get past these two party roadblocks; third party runs have had aImost no recent success, however.
I would further endorse the idea that both parties should be destroyed immediately but am not at all betting on that to happen. It could happen that clinton, who appeared a couple of days ago in what was described as a pants suit made from last year’s curtains, could destroy the dimos by insisting on running. The gopers as a party are becoming less and less relevant and that may happen but prob will happen only after the 2020 “designation.”
Big FWIW: i have seen some rumors/speculation that the Lawfare crowd behind the coup/impeachment debacle are gearing up with numbers of lawyers for the event that if trump wins the 2020, their lawyers will challenge each and every state count if it is close at all. They plan to make 2000 FL chad debacle child’s play be comparison. That of course would further disable the country more so than already disabled.
” third party runs have had aImost no recent success”
Yes, traditionally 3rd parties have not been able to achieve much beyond being a spoiler due to the “two party system”, but these are different times.
The American electorate voted Donald Trump into the presidency…not because they had any illusions about Trump, but because he was the only “other” option provided to the by the system. People, of all political persuasions, are fed up with the establishment. This is true of not just the political establishment, but really the entire establishment (political, judicial, educational, etc.). Trumps election in 2016 was a watershed moment, Americans have finally figured out that the dems/reps run on the same old lies, broken promises and distractions and once elected continue to push the establishment line.
Does anyone really believe that the American electorate has become any less dissatisfied with the establisment over the past 3 years? No, I would argue that the time has never been more right for a new political movement to sweep aside the old two party system entirely. Think about it, people were willing to vote for a clown like Trump rather than vote for an establishment candidate one more time. If a messenger ride to the front carrying the banner for a truly anti-establishment movement, people will flock to it in droves. This is as true of democrats as it is of republicans…and probably more so of independents.
Are not the messengers restricted financially from the people flocking in droves, it’s a money momentum driven system, a messenger simply cant burst into the crowd with the costs and competition of political ambitions.
It would first and foremost require funding, and then on top of that ambition that said messenger could actually deliver on reforming the system, I dont think that messenger exists or is even allowed to exist.
The system is far to broken to fix and far to corrupt to allow it to be fixed.
And boycotting the debate would accomplish what?
Not seen in MSM are many of the voices we see here and other altenative websites, like Globalresearch, Greanville Post, and you tubers like Jimmy Dore, Joe Rogan, Economists like Richard Wolfe, Michael Hudson, people like Prof. Steve Cohen. Paul Craig Roberts, many more.
What I would like to see and what I think she should have done, was to hold her fire until the debate. Then make her case, and announce that she is leaving the party and taking the Left/Libertarian anti war base and starting a new party.
If she creates a ‘Shadow cabinet’ so that people know exactly who’d be running the country, and then getting others to run against the Duopolistic Senate/Congress, that would definitley shake up the sclerotic, corrupt system.
Hillary Diane Rodham will be the democrat candidate for president in 2020.
Auslander
In practice the DNC decides, not the voters.
Actually, *that woman* recently (08.11.2019) dryly declared in public that she had won the 2016 elections: https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1181747087488077825 (LOL! Those reactions… )
I see little possibilities for a third party. Maybe these 2 parties even are two sides of the same coin.
I agree with several others here, that there might be more advantages to attend the debate and have her voice heard (though they will grab any possibility to stop that, but that will be obvious), than stay in a corner. The MSM will ignore her anyway.
Cheers, Rob
Rob
You said…”Maybe these 2 parties even are two sides of the same coin.”
Absolutely…the coin is the same on both sides…heads, perpetual war…tails damn it, perpetual war too!
Heads, tails, whatever, humanity loses either which way.
Cheers
Col
Well if she runs again, then we’re all doomed to another 4 years of Trump. That’s all I’m going to say.
‘Doomed to another 4 years of Trump’ beats the heck out of ‘doomed to a few minutes of missiles flying everywhere’ a week after Kankles is sworn in. Your choice.
Auslander
”In short, the DNC and corporate media are trying to hijack the entire election process.”
How sad (not). Frankly, the only correct approach to the God-awful Pindo elections would be to give the franchise to all peoples on the planet since US imperialism wields global power and threatens the entire human species in the process.
Better believe me: As soon as this lady gets ”serious”, she will start cackling about Russian meddling, Crimean annexation, and what-have-you.
Both content and comments here seem to assume that Gabbard is a potential savior of US ‘democracy’ in general and the the US democratic party in particular. She is clearly neither.
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard
Very curious.
Tulsi Gabbard increasingly seems like somebody’s intel asset–likely of India’s RAW spy agency and also the USA CIA, given her US military background:
“Gabbard took her oath of office as a member of Congress on the Hindu religious book, the Bhagavad Gita, and she generally follows the Vaishnava Hindu sect and its sub-school, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, the latter affiliated with the Science of Identity Foundation. In many ways, Gabbard follows in the tradition of Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro, who joined the Indonesian-based Subud movement founded by Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo. Subud and the Society of Identity Foundation found an important base of operations in Hawaii. More importantly, far from selling incense at airports, these religious sects acted as fronts for intelligence agencies. For the Society of Identity Foundation, it is the Indian Research and Analysis Wing (RAW). For Subud, it was the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency and the Indonesian Operational Command for the Restoration of Security and Order (KOPKAMTIB). Intelligence agencies have long relied on cults for field testing of psychological mass control techniques and political infiltration. Two examples of CIA-directed cults are the Peoples Temple of Jim Jones and the Chinese Falun Gong. The Unification Church of the late Reverend Sun Myung Moon also had significant links to the CIA and the Korean Central Intelligence Agency (KCIA).
Just as Israel’s Mossad influences the operations of Jewish cults abroad, including the Chabad Movement, India’s RAW, particularly under the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party of Modi, maintains close links with various Hindu extremist groups and overseas sects. These include the Hindu organization, Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS). RSS opponents accuse it of being the armed paramilitary wing of the BJP, much like the Irish Republican Army (IRA)is the armed component of the Sinn Fein nationalist party of Ireland and Northern Ireland. Just as the IRA has carried out assassinations of British politicians, the RSS has chalked up a number of assassinations, including that of Mahatma Gandhi in New Delhi in 1948.
As a member of the House Foreign Affairs and Armed Services Committees, Gabbard is strategically placed to influence U.S. policy vis a vis Pakistan and other nations where RAW is active, including Sri Lanka, Maldives, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar, and Afghanistan. Gabbard has accepted sizable donations from the Overseas Friends of the BJP, which acts in the same manner as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) with regard to Israel. Gabbard has opposed any House resolutions that call out Modi for acts of violence against Christians and Muslims, particularly anti-Muslim riots that took place in Gujarat in 2002 when Modi was the state’s chief minister.
Funding
The Intercept examined Gabbard’s campaign records and discovered donations from 105 current and former officers and members of the radical Hindutva sect network, the Sangh Parivar.[1]
Indian newspapers have called Gabbard the Sangh Parivar’s “American mascot.”[2] The Sangh Parivar envision a Hindu theocratic state on the subcontinent, where Muslims, Christians, and others would be relegated to second-class citizens.[citation needed] Gabbard has spoken at events sponsored by a Sangh Parivar affiliate, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad of America.[3] The Vishwa Hindu Parishad of India has been declared a “militant religious organization” by the CIA.[4] Hawaii Democratic Party activists have accused Gabbard of kowtowing more to the interests of Indian-Americans and Hindu-Americans, particularly the Hindu-American Foundation (HAF) — which is headquartered in Capitol Hill in Washington and acts as a Hindu version of AIPAC and the Muslim Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) — than in caring about the problems particular to Hawaii.”
Ultimately, no American poli-trickian can be trusted. This includes those who present themselves as (controlled) opposition to the political establishment and, in Gabbard’s case, its wars.
It should also be remembered that Gabbard’s comments about so-called RussiaGate have regurgitated mainstream US propaganda narrative that Russia “interfered” in the 2016 US presidential election.
Nobody is saying that Tulsi Gabbard is perfect. However, labeling her a CIA asset is obviously both false and malicious to do so, in my opinion. She speaks from the heart, in a genuine way that could not be mimicked by the worms employed by the CIA. So please, stop with this nonsense. She was a young, ideological girl when she joined the military, unaware at the time of the true nature of that war and our country. But she’s growing up, and rather quickly too.
Not just CIA asset–an Indian asset, particularly through her support and connections to various Hindutva groups like the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (or RSS)
Even the Indian Telegraph called her a “mascot” of the RSS.
Sangh finds a mascot in American Tulsi
https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/sangh-finds-a-mascot-in-american-tulsi/cid/1579985
Another revealing perspective on Gabbard is from a former US military and Cold War liberal named Naomi Allen, who is highly antagonistic towards Russia. What is interesting about this post is how Allen explains why she *no longer* hates Gabbard because she discovered that Gabbard is actually quite anti-Russian and anti-Bashir Assad. Indeed, Allens calls Gabbard a “Russia hawk,” which thus makes Gabbard much more attractive to her:
Allen writes:
“And here’s the kicker… when I took the time to research her congressional record on Russia… Tulsi is a Russia Hawk. The most hawkish I’ve ever seen among today’s politicians. Putin’s puppet? More like Putin’s worst nightmare. She has been a thorn in his side as a congresswoman… imagine what she would do as President? Just… holy shit.
[…]
Anti-Kremlin folk, like me, who previously disregarded her as a Putin Puppet should really take a closer look at her… because she would actually not be good for the Kremlin at all… and it would actually be in their best interest for her to fail.
She is the only candidate who acknowledges that we are engaged in a Cold War with Russia. Did you hear that? She didn’t call it “election meddling”. She didn’t make it all about Trump “collusion”. And she didn’t try to brush it aside with nonsense about how the existential climate crisis should be the only thing we focus on. She calls what is happening between us and Russia, “a New Cold War”. And she wants to put an end to it.
And just in case you’re wondering if that, by “ending” the New Cold War, she might mean appeasement… think again. Because Tulsi was the one who pushed for the US to supply weapons and financing to Ukraine, and she’s been calling for the revival of Iron Curtain policies since 2014.”
https://girlygrrrl.com/tag/why-i-no-longer-hate-tulsi-gabbard/
No, Tulsi Gabbard is not quite the peace candidate she masquerades as.
Impeachment is currently the hottest topic on US political scene and it is bound to be front and center in the next dem debate. I’d bet my last dollar that there is going to be a “raise your hands” moment.
Tulsi’s view on that subject is a lot more nuanced and not suitable for a 30 seconds answer to a loaded question. Maybe she just doesn’t want to participate in the farce (and for her, it’s a lose-lose situation anyway).
Ah, the Saker likes(?) Tulsi now. Things seem to be changing in Zio-land and maybe the Saker has noticed.
I think the Dem Party is dead, killed by the Clintons and the 911 trap connecting Degeneras to Bush and Rachael Meadows to Bolton and Hillary to the Party of Conquistadors. .
Breaking up mass media is job number one for the next president. If Tulsi withdraws from the debate and says the mass media needs to be broken up, she gains in popularity. But if she wants to win the election she should go third party.
Trump is to Zio for me, Saker.
Tulsi’s message is not clear on the issue of the Zio state which is occupying Palestine. Actually, it isquiteclear as she supportsthe illegal occupation by the zionists of Palestine. That’s understandable because she herself hails from the occupied state of Hawaii. I could’nt care less whether she debates or not. In my country we say ‘lood om oud ijzer’, something like rubbish for rubbish.
https://www.thenation.com/article/hawaii-occupied-state/
Saker,
I may be one of a few who has not seen more than 5 seconds of Trump in my life.
The same goes for Obama, Clinton, and Bush.
I broke the rule with Obama with a speech to British students “Stop complaining. Go out and vote.”
When I see things like this, I am seriously tempted to break the rule with Trump for the sheer entertainment value.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/donald-trump-presents-plotting-lovebirds-and-search-loser-hunter-biden
MS
Saker,
Just a quick note about this Zero Hedge link to a Trump speech, which I read a few hours ago.
The original article showed clips of no more than 5 minutes.
I checked again and each clip is the 5 hour coverage of the speech.
I am curious if others see the same as I do.
You can draw your own conclusions why it changed.
MS
She should join the debate. Any politician in either of the two major parties has to make compromises. There are educated people like this site’s readers, and the masses duped by the MSM. I think she is the most sane of the lot, and the only Dem who can beat Trump. If she is President, she will face same problem as Trump; many of her cabinet will actively try to sabotage her and the blackmailed members of Congress will try and impeach her for any minor offense.
Gen Mattis defied Trump on the Syria policy, and the chickens are coming home to roost The constant lies the MSM have presented are blowing up with persistent facts on the ground. USA has too many problems for any miraculous political savior. It must dissolve further before positive changes can be made.
Never trust a Anglo claiming to want peace. Aloha, bla bla. Hawaii shouldnt even be part of USA, and same for American Samoa , Micronesia Federation, Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Guantanamo and hundreds of other places these pirates took, just like their English fathers took Aoteroa, Gibraltar, Malvina and the other islands. If Tulsi wanted peace first thing she should do is make Hawaii independant again and get USA out of Pacific Ocean.
This Tulsi would happily send the US Luftwaffe to bomb some Arabic or Asian people, and shes shown already her atitude to China & Russia. Will always be like this for USA, ”until mountains turn to pebbles” as the Japanese say.
Excellent post — thank you, Ro.
Oppressor Nations can’t promote peace, since their whole fabric of society depends on foreign loot. If this oh-so-angelic Tulsi Gabbard had any anti-imperialist credentials and, more importantly, any anti-imperialist intentions, she would have been either murdered by the Deep State or lynched by average US patriots long ago. They have a pretty good sense of smell when it comes to what is and what is not good for the “American way of life”.
Bottom line: Obama, Trump, Gabbard — the supply of fraudsters is endless, and people endorse the garbage every single time. Pathetic.
Your pessimism is understandable, but you’re wrong. Tulsi genuinely wants to end war. That said, I’m not sure if she fully understands just how evil the Neocons actually are. I don’t think she understands that if she goes against them, her life will be in danger. She is still naive. However, she’s the only hope we have to change things from within the USA without resorting to a full-blown civil war or nuclear apocalypse. Tulsi is not the person you think she is and she definitely will not be giving in to any false flag operations or starting any wars, thank you very much. And if by the grace of God she is ever elected, however, there is a very real chance the Neocons may try to kill her and start a civil war inside of the United States. But if that’s what it takes to get rid of them from this world for good, then so be it.
Tulsi Gabbard’s credentials in fighting against war are about the same as Alexis Tsipras’ with regard to austerity, the only difference here being that Gabbard still hasn’t been exposed to the full brunt of overwhelming determination and hatred accompanied by raw power. Judging by her pronunciamentos about Russia, China, and Syria there is no need for any such coercion.
They were more in the manner of ‘denunciamentos’ and are the true measure of the creature.
Right! The filthy side of me would even like to call them utter, smelly excrementos. Ro’s judgment above is a seriously good, well-versed account of this Tulsi specimen. Put bluntly, Tulsi Gabbard = Another bellicose Zionazi harridan from hell. Wonder if my Swedish compatriot — just turned honorary doctor at the University of Mons (Belgium) — Greta Thunberg will call Tulsi Gabbard out when the latter drops any silly pretensions and promotes the usual murder and mayhem. War is, after all, a very deliberate form of trashing our planet’s environment, mind you.
I don’t think that Greta need pick out any particular Western political pole-cats for mention-they are all, without exception, either corrupt and morally insane denialists, or moral cowards unwilling to call a spade a ‘bloody great shovel’. If Greta’s smart, and running her own show, she ought to avoid the lime-light now, let others take up the baton, and just work with groups at the local level and through the Web. Otherwise she’ll just be commodified and turned into a ‘product’ by the system.
I remember when the Saker first noticed and wrote about Tulsi.It was a cautious appreciation of her message. I think he still maintains that stance and it is right to do so. She never skyrocketed in the polls and will not win the nomination. We all knew that was the most likely outcome. However, her campaign and support did grow and she took out Kamala Harris. She did the world a favour there. It appears the whole democratic primary process is being set up to return Killary. This should not be a huge surprise to anyone either. The DNC is rotten to the core. All Tulsi can do is undermine its credibility. I think she will continue to do so. No one person can fix what ails the United States. The best anyone can do is limit the damage. Given the video of MAGA protestors being attacked in Minnesota the other night, the most likely worst case scenario appears to be civil war in the Unites States or another Great Depression.
All of that said, a short time ago it looked like Clinton would be the president and WW3 might be around the corner. A US civil war is a far preferable alternative.
On a personal level, Tulsi scores a victory if she boycotts or participates. It exposes DNC corruption either way. One way may be more effective than the other, but it won’t be a huge factor when the Hillary tornado strikes in the upcoming weeks.
I find this very unlikely, to go from the frying pan into the fire should not excite anyone who does not want to commit political suicide. Even publically front running a private corruption ring about to be exposed is nothing to get excited about. This would be similar to not wearing a seat belt so when you crashed you could launch your body over to protect your passengers safety, none of these things are a wise move and I even think Hillary is conscious of this. If there were even a smigin of truth to this, Billy would break out in anticipation and spill the beans first, his patience is not that long anymore and neither are his lips or ability to sink ships.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com
The Gateway Pundit is without a shadow of a doubt the best news site in US for coverage of the ongoing Democrat insanity Over Trump.
The Federalist punches nice a clean too.
Sad time. I sent Tulsi my $50, one of the few candidates who could certainly beat the Trumpster. Young, smart, good looking, enlisted reserve, Iraqi veteran, good ideas. I’m going to start knocking my democratic friends who are so anti Trump and remind them it was Hilary who stole the election from Bernie, and Bernie would have won.
Go Tulsi, go! Canadians such as myself are watching and cheering you on too.
Time for change. Time for real values in our politics and our everyday lives. Values such as
truthfulness, honesty, true loyalty to one
another, empathy, desire to see the best
in one another, true desire to help one another,
sympathy, understanding and kindness to
each other whoever we may be, wherever we
come from, what language we speak and
how and to whom we worship. Time to behave
as though God in all things mattered.
Rob
You said…”Maybe these 2 parties even are two sides of the same coin.”
Absolutely…the coin is the same on both sides…heads, perpetual war…tails damn it, perpetual war too!
Heads, tails, whatever, humanity loses either which way.
Cheers
Col
CyffNZ
“Absolutely…the coin is the same on both sides…heads, perpetual war…tails damn it, perpetual war too!
Heads, tails, whatever, humanity loses either which way.”
There is also the very slim chance the coin could also land on its edge. A very slim chance, granted.
But, alas, that also results in war for israeli, and their aligned capitalist co-conspirators and quislings, interests. ;-D
Of course it’s rigged. The entire US polity is a deeply farcical, corrupt and malevolent puppet play, a bunraku, or perhaps shadow puppetry like the Indonesian wayang, if you agree with Dewey that politics is simply the shadow cast on society by Big Business, the real and only rulers in any capitalist kakistocracy. Perhaps Tulsi’s role is simply to whine about the perennial corruption of the farce, so as to give it some added ‘legitimacy’. ‘See-we allow criticism, no matter how misguided’.
The constitution of the Democratic Party says that the DNC can do what it likes, since the 1980s.
This is a tough call, IMO. The debates are rigged (also IMO) but the moderators do not have complete control, so there may be opportunity to speak out at least enough to get name and face recognition, which is important in this nation of many uninterested people. So maybe it is worth it to stand on the stage with all the hypocrites, liars and early Alzheimer’s sufferer. I do not think Tulsi has a chance in hell this election but she is young and hopefully will remain in Congress. Her record will get longer and speak for itself.
Except that as congress’s record gets longer and speaks for its self, it also becomes more clear of where the citizens troubles lie, at congress’s feet.
I have been keeping an eye on her since 2016 when she spoke out against the DNC throwing Bernie Sanders under the bus. I like almost everything I hear her say, with the notable exception of her stance on guns.
I have a somewhat reluctant appreciation for her as I haven’t yet done any careful looking into what her true motives may be, where her loyalties lie, what risks/opportunities are associated with her as a potential president.
The only negative things I have heard from her were on this site a few comments up and some minor controversy over her stance on homosexuals… I don’t know anything about wikispooks but I will check it out.
Does anyone have any other information on potential negative aspects about her?
If she is another phony like Bernie Sanders sent to get the neocon/zionist agenda back on track, I would like to know before I get my hopes up.
And, just throwing this out there… another commenter mentioned the possibility of Hillary re-entering the race…
I have believed since 2016 that Michelle Obama will run against Trump in 2020. She just came out with a new book, she is as popular as ever and has had plenty of time to prepare for it. She could prove to be a formidable opponent to Trump, and we would be right back to where we were before. I’m crossing my fingers that it won’t happen, but I have a hunch that it is being quietly prepared in case the current lineup of stooge candidates start dropping like flies.
The NYT has tried to confront her by putting out a vicious hit piece today questioning her boycott. They think she wants to destroy her campaign and doesn’t know what she is doing. So the debate moderator says he will be a fair referee and treat her fairly. This is what I figured would happen. They dared to call her out and now she has them right where she wants them: cowering in fear of what she will do next. Submit or boycott? I don’t know what she will do because she has a form for people to answer questions about boycotting or no and decide based on the responses. Trump’s only hope to get re-elected is to fire Pompus Minimus immediately and nominate her to replace him. If he does, I don’t know what she will do. If he does fire him and she then accepts, she will bring ALL the troops home, and he will be re-elected. If he doesn’t, he be a one-term President when she wins the election and then she will bring them home.
The DNC and corporate media do more than just rig Democratic selection processes. They undermine Presidents with illegitimate enquiries and impeachment nonsense, they scream hysterically about Russia whilst giving Israel a free pass and they are fact free vacillating bedwetters where climate is concerned.
This is not about representing working class families, nor is it about democracy.
America needs at least two Presidential candidates who are neither Republican nor Democrat and the US public needs to boycott every MSM outlet that refuses to give air time to NDNR alternatives.