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Why now? Conflicts have been there for a long time. Nothing significantly different happened. Then why? Looks like another directed step in “someone’s” policy of controlled chaos.
That’s the most essential question!
Im wondering if this has something to do with Erdogan changing his policy.
Previously he made refugees from Syria stay in camps in Turkey without being able to leave the camps. Why is it that now many of the refugees are able to go straight through Turkey?
Not all the refugees are going through there of course, some are going straight from Libya to Italy in boats, but most of the ones going through Greece and Hungary and such came straight through from Turkey.
Did Erdogan change his refugee policy, and if so, why now, and did the Americans have anything to do with the policy change?
Most likely because it looks like Assad n Hezbollah is winning the war in Syria. So the psychopaths quickly staged the Aylan tragedy to try to stop Assad’s progress
The Saker wrote some time ago about his fears regarding Europe being burned down as part of the american retreat. Among the many suffering incomers are Daesh militians (with fake syrian passes). Maybe its time more of us shared those fears.
may be it’s a case of you reap what you sow…
ZeroHedge: Read This Before The Mainstream Media Uses A Drowned Refugee Boy To Start Another War
“””””A baby boy turned to flotsam. Washed up on the shore, face down in the mud. His family, refugees from Syria’s civil war, had tried to reach Greece, but their over-crowded raft overturned in the Mediterranean Sea and he drowned along with his brother and mother. The viral image of 3-year-old Aylan Kurdi’s lifeless little body on a Turkish beach has shaken the conscience of the West and wrenched America’s attention to the refugee crisis now rocking Europe.”””””
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-08/read-mainstream-media-uses-drowned-refugee-boy-start-another-war
These people are so evil. Imagine the years of preplanning to get rid of Assad. Under his regime, as in Libya, everyone got free healthcare and free schooling. Even now the necessities are subsidized. Would you believe that Erdogan stored up those refugees?
9/7/15 http://www.globalresearch.ca/refugee-crisis-to-justify-humanitarian-military-intervention-and-the-creation-of-safe-havens-in-syria/5474583
“Turkey has brought in over 2 million refugees with a suspiciously eager “open door” policy and has spent upward to 6 billion USD on building and maintaining these immense camps. They have done so as part of a long-standing strategy to justify creating “safe havens” in northern Syria – essentially NATO invading and occupying Syrian territory, protecting their terrorist proxies within Syria’s borders so that they can strike deeper toward Damascus and finally topple the government of President Bashar Al Assad.”
2012 “Middle East Memo #21,” “Assessing Options for Regime Change,”:
the creation of safe-havens and humanitarian corridors, which would have to be backed by limited military power. This would, of course, fall short of U.S. goals for Syria and could preserve Asad in power. From that starting point, however, it is possible that a broad coalition with the appropriate international mandate could add further coercive action to its efforts.” — Cartalucci
@ Penelope: Thanks for this link. Yes, there are also some real refugees, not only economic migrants.
And they are being used like a screewdriver and being exploited.
Those doing this (is it Erdogan alone as a penalty for the West, or was it staged by the USA? Together with Turkey or what?)
I don’t yet know the exact reasons why so many at once are leaving Turkey. Are they being forced out brutally? Or is it trigerred so suddenly by CIA flyers, payments and golden but empty promises?
As long as there is so little certainty in these areas, we can only speculate.
Nevertheless I repost a comment that I sent into an older thread which is now quite overcrowded and chaotic, therefore here again.
I also would like to add that a good friend of mine knows a Syrian woman who lives in Germany since 2011:
* she is 45, mother of two, married to a German Diplomat, upper middle class
* she is a Christian.
* highly skilled, working on her Ph.D. in “Modern Media management”
* has some English and German skills
* jobless for 3 months now and finds it almost impossible to get a new job here in Berlink, despite her qualifications.
* she does confirm, that a lot stinks in the western media coverage about Syria, the refugees and the fake-migrants
From that alone you can estimate how many chances of finding a paid job those have, who are flooding the EU: n o n e
But as said, here my repost from /je-suis-alyan/ :
> For free lunch?
Yes.
And for (Re-)Islamization of Europe.
Everybody who denies this is blind (to put it friendly) or a liar.
I deeply regret the sad tragedies of dead migrants.
But ask: Who is really responsible.
A) The West, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their “partners”
But nonetheless also
B) The migrants themselves who want more than “just” food and shelter (leaving safe regions for trying their “luck” in Central-Europe) and by doing so risking the lives of their loved(???) ones for some Euros and some illusions and hallucinations (European dream).
That way or the other way, Putin is right in being worried about the EU’s fate.
Because he knows that this will end in a big tragedy that will outnumber all the small drunken boys and girls by the magnitude of 2^64
Ouch, wtf: Obviously I meant {drowned}
(I made this error because in german the translation would be “ertrunken” and somehow I wasn’t awake enough)
Bulgaria is run by “Axis” traitors (like during WW2)
Bulgaria denies airspace use for Russian supply flights to Syria
http://www.rt.com/news/314719-bulgaria-airspace-russia-syria/
I’m proud of Greece(‘s current “leader”ship) at least once after all the recent disappointments, because although they co-operate with Israel and the US in terms of policing and NATO, and even though they are not a slavic brother nation (unlike Bulgaria) they _refused_ Washington’s request (playing two cards):
https://www.rt.com/news/314616-greece-request-airspace-russia/
“””””The Greek Foreign Ministry has confirmed receipt of a request from Washington, asking that Russia be denied use of Greek airspace for aid flights to Syria, Reuters reported.
The announcement came from the Greek Foreign Ministry spokesman, who added the US request was being considered.
On Sunday, a diplomatic source in Athens told RIA Novosti that Greece had refused to close its airspace to Russian planes carrying humanitarian aid to Syria.”””””
Now we witness, that the West has only waited for the suffering of the migrants and of the real refugees, only to wait for the first deaths (intentionally) and to exploit them in MSM to prepare the invasion of Syria and to finally topple Assad as originally scheduled for fall 2013.
The West is covered in blood all over.
What Greece decides is essentially irrelevant in this matter. It’s easy for them to give their assent after Bulgaria has not given theirs.
You can only fly (in a direct sense) to Greece from Russia over Bulgaria or Turkey!
While this is clear the symbolic effect of Greece’s decision is not to be under(nor over-)estimated.
p.s. You can fly from Russia to Syria over UK, France and Germany …..
Well yes, that would be a fairly long route flying over France though.
The length of this route may not be the main problem.
OMG! :( This shocked me through all bones :(
This could have gone dead-wrong. And it alone would have the potential to trigger a devastating civil war masser/slaughtering, if not an invasion and toppling of Orban:
Yesterday in Biatorbagy (between Budapest and Györ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRAvvV8Usbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsNs944uTj4
Intercity train rushes through overcrowded station at unabated FULL speed, numerous people who were on the rail-tracks were only saved by some protective angels.
Is the locomotive driver a killer? Or the local station manager? Or did the latter give up or simply fall asleep? Or was it planned by somebody to result in a new “Je suis”?
Pretty amazing video. Who is that blonde woman? I presume she’s a reporter. Is she French?
She could be dead now, by the width of a hair.
So don’t you have any other questions??
No, all wrong…
Express trains like these are traveling up to 160 km/h. Their braking distance is easily in the kilometers range – they don’t have tires, the steel-on-steel adhesion is much lower than rubber-to-asphalt.
It also takes a while to speed up. They don’t stop in every station that they go through, they pass them either full speed, or kind-of-slowed-down (to 120 or 100 km/h). That’s why there was a fence (that was ignored) and that’s why there was a white line on the platform (don’t go beyond if there’s no train stopped at the platform; also ignored). When you want to get into a train, you use underground passage to get on the correct platform, but you don’t cross tracks.
So if there is someone, who ignores the all security devices, there’s a chance he will get hurt. The engine-driver could not know that there are bunch of stupid people on the track.
The station manager has the duty to block the railroad in such cases.
If there is no local manager (automation, video cameras) then the same still applies with the only difference that this decision must be taken in a remote datacenter.
No excuses!
Sombody who should have set the train’s signal/semaphore to [RED/STOP] or at least to [DRIVE SLOWLY, 20km/h max] failed to do so.
Train driver: I didn’t hear any train brakes.
He only made several BeepBeepBeeps and attempted to alert them, but did not even initiate a forced stop.
My grandpa was a locomotive driver himself and I’m very affilliated with railroads (more than you can imagine).
So don’t teach me the text books about what a train is and how it interacts with kindergarden physics.
Here you see the difference to a train that made a full stop. Nothing like that was seen or heard here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkwkUgcY1u4&spfreload=10
If the migrants don’t follow safety procedures you can kill them like rats? Or what are you saying?
WRONG: The railroad must be closed!!!
It is the same with a drunk person on a highway. You cannot simply continue at 160km/h and continue your journey after you did not even stop to check if you killed him.
What a barbaric comment of yours :-(
If you have a driving license I’m relieved you are not in my area.
You know painfully little about trains.
Every train – no matter if Express train, slow local train, urban metro train, Freight train or simply an emply locomotive can only ever go anywhere in a tiny window of green semaphores, a so called “Block”.
This was traditionally managed by douzens of phone calls from station to station, and on some modernized western railroads they have laid off all local stuff and do it in a fully automated way via software, from a remote datacenter. Nevertheless there are plenty extra safety precautions and (humans) as controllers checking the video streams.
However – in Hungary they are still doing it the old way, and they sometimes did not even want to allow me to take pictures of the old trains led by Soviet Diesel locomotives from a public platform while I was not putting anybody into risk whatsoever and it is my full right and no permission is required.
The one who gives green light is FULLY responsible that nobody gets exposed to any danger. If he cannot garuantee this, his is not permitted to give green light. This criminal who managed the station shown in above videos should be instantly life-time suspended from such sensible and arrested.
err, sorry, typos: “staff” not “stuff”
And “sensitive duties” rather than “sensible”
Hotlink the url, please.
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@Signalman:
There probably is a reason why Saker doesn’t do this.
Because in that case it provides data to google (how many folks with which IP adresses from which computer of mobile device located when where visited Saker’s site before clicking the link, how frequently, etc etc etc)
Is it asked too much for you to copy and paste the link (or create a bokmark), given the fact how many thousands of unpaid hours Saker and SouthFront are working night and day, mostly for free, while paying the bandwidth bills from their own pockets?
You requested the hotlinking several times and in my taste don’t even do so in an all too polite way. Could you please accept it as is (because there are _reasons_ for not doing so) ?
Thank you.
Here’s why now.
Turkey is chasing out Kurds and Christians.
US wants and has planned for this migration for years. It buries the vassals in economic costs and knocks them out of competition with US for trade. Total domination. Increased NATO expenses and these costs will break them. TPIP will lock them in chains. Feudalism is back in full bloom.
Need more?
Russia will be blamed as Russia takes over as major force for peace and leader of the fight against ISIS, US proxy army in ME.
More?
Excellent system to hide ISIS terrorists moving into position all over EU.
More?
Think for yourself. You’re smart. Who benefits from chaos? Who wants to tear down all walls of sovereignty?
The US is losing traction with the ME and its old allies. Soon, it will stand solitary, very deadly and hated. This is a good distraction.
The Kurds was fighting ISIS and doing well….until the mighty USA stabbed them in the back.
Turkish Police Snipers Killing Kurdish Civilians in Southeast – Anti-Protest Law Turns Kurdish Towns Into Live-Fire Zones.
Opponents warned this would turn Kurdish towns into live-fire areas, and this appears to be exactly what is happening, as locals report police sealing off Kurdish towns and snipers setting up shop on top of roofs, firing at people as they pass by.
Read more here:http://news.antiwar.com/2015/09/08/turkish-police-snipers-killing-kurdish-civilians-in-southeast/
Yet Erdogan himself has directed much more firepower at PKK forces in northern Iraq. Meanwhile he’s arresting left-wing and Kurdish activists in Turkey itself. Erdogan even extracted a NATO pledge to battle the PKK and its affiliates, along with ISIS, on the ground that they’re all terrorists. It’s disturbing to see NATO becoming an instrument to suppress minority rights. Many question the sincerity of Erdogan in fighting ISIS when his efforts are primarily directed at his political opponents at home. Washington should ask itself whether opening a new front against ISIS is worth betraying a valued ally yet again.
Read more here:The US Is Betraying the Kurds – Again:http://original.antiwar.com/adil-e-shamoo/2015/09/08/the-us-is-betraying-the-kurds-again/
Syrian Refugees throwing stones at Hungrians who gave them asylum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrSGZswoeL8
Ignoring the text and just looking at the video I have no idea who they are or why they are doing whatever it is they are — while running past the train, to who knows where.
Where: Raaberbahn aka GySEV is a train company operating there.
(I know this region myself and passed through it most recently in June and backwards in July, because I visited it several times for taking pictures of certain trains, which is my hobby.)
Even without any pre-knowledge you could have found out about Raaberbahn by simply googling it in 5 secs!)
Who: You are right, it is probably rather 20% Germans and 80% Japanese being there on holidays, they are in a hurry because they want to catch the train to Vienna for attending the evening opera.
Still other questions?
Ahh, throwing stones at locomotives is a well-intended tradition in Japan and Germany to say “hello, we love you and thank you for being co-workers of those who bring us to the Vienna Opera”
Syrians: That’s stated because MSM only talk about “Syrian refugees”
So by stating it the original poster wanted to criticize MSM’s flat propaganda.
Unreported by western MSM: Daily SCENES OF WAR and TERROR inmidst a once romantic EU-country, Greece – Unprotected, let alone, helpless and rightfully desparate native Greeks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEqcIgqbhis
Wow, that’s the best South Front I’ve ever seen. South Front, you’re amazing. Please if you read this, reply with donate button link. thanks guys.
They have website with everything
sometimes they come over here to say hi…I wish they could have their donate button on these vids…
Trains between Denmark and Germany halted amid refugee crisis
http://www.rt.com/news/314840-denmark-germany-train-refugee/
Good Night planet: Angry Mobs Torch Kurdish Offices, Shops As Turkey Descends Into Chaos
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-09/angry-mobs-torch-kurdish-offices-shops-turkey-descends-chaos
Will Spain ever come to its senses regarding Catalonia and Bask’s land?
NO, doesn’t look like that.
Spain Defense Minister Warns Army May Intervene Unless “Catalonia Obeys The Rules”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-09/spain-defense-minister-warns-army-may-intervene-unless-catalonia-obeys-rules
This was reported in June on Fars News but still seems relevant: the Sauds contacted the Vatican seeking support for toppling Assad, stressing their commitment to the protection of religious minorities in the aftermath (of Assad’s downfall) after being advised by the French to do so:
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940331001218
The Sauds are beyond redemption of any kind.
Scaring article at Cassad (via autotranslation) :
Europe and migrants – Chaos will set in
http://www.translate.ru/siteTranslation/autolink/?direction=re&template=General&sourceURL=http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2378220.html
original: http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2378220.html