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https://www.rt.com/news/331322-saudi-us-ground-operations-syria/
* Saudi Arabia ready to take part in any US-led ground operations in Syria – military spokesman *
this is really terminal effrontery. i am agains violence but i think adult (?) people who run United States, GB and rest of the “western” world simply does not understand. i vote for tactical nukes against any ground intruders in Syria including memmbers of NATO. pain, is sometimes very illuminating in case when words cannot be understood.
Nukes on Syrian ground? No need for them. It would render the territory dangerous for the Syrian population in the aftermath of the war.
I agree with your conclusion, but I would inflict the pain to the commanders on their home territory.
Saudi’s are not suicidal.. It would take a few weeks to defat a full fledged invasion force.. Neither do they know military tactics or terrorist tactics.. At most these would be fodder.. I am sure the backstabbing pasha gangster wont mind tens of thousands of Turks dying in a missile barrage to save his business dealings.. But I doubt any army in the world would be able to stand up to battle hardened Syrian solders fighting an insurgency in their cities after 5 years. Those who are left are hardcore survivors. It is tough to fight against suicidal terrorists. Just because the Syrians don’t have the numbers to protect everything does not mean they don’t have a core group of very experienced and hardened troops.. Every village has a few dozen terrorists and it takes a lot of men to contain every single part of the country. They don’t need to defeat nato.. They just need to make if costly.. and they cant disperse like the terrorists into the entire country. And Syria until now has not called general mobilization because they have not been invaded.. Maybe people don’t realize that.. Ukraine is on their 6th mobilization.. Syria is still using their old practice of every male having to serve for an year.. Which is not that many in a population of 20 mil.. And after an year they get to leave but in a general mobilization they all get called back. Some 5000 civilians joined with the SAA to attack north Aleppo last week.. A general mobilization would call in a few million men to the military.. It would destroy Syria’s economy.. But I highly doubt Syrians would sit still while their country gets occupied by terrorist supporters and they will never be able to get rid of the terrorists ever.. Golan heights make a great example..
Rebels in Syria face critical defeat around Aleppo By Michael Cruickshank
The Syrian regime managed a highly strategic advance over the last few days around north Aleppo, cutting off rebels from key supply lines. This advance, which also relieved the regime enclave of Nubbol and Zahraa, puts the rebels in a precarious position across northwest Syria, and may mark the beginning of the end of them as a coherent fighting force.
New ‘allies’
The success which pro-regime forces have seen in Syria in the last few weeks has largely been on the back of international support from both Iran and Russia. While previously the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and the National Defense Force (NDF) suffered a critical lack of personnel, these ranks have now been filled with Shia militia fighters from Iraq and Afghanistan who are armed and trained by Iran. While these fighters are not (generally) professional soldiers, they are generally highly-motivated and well armed, when compared to Syrian NDF units.
On the other side of the coin, Russia now makes up for the regime’s lack of close air support, providing daily bombing missions using a large number of aircraft based out of a number of airbases in the country. Complementing this, there is evidence of a limited number of Russian ground troops operating in an advisory and fire support role within the country. Finally, Russia has also supplied the SAA with advanced new equipment including the T-90 tank, as well as the TOS-1 Buratino – a thermobaric multiple missile launcher.
Rebel territory split
The main consequence of this advance around Aleppo is that rebel-held territory has been split into two pieces in northern Syria. The larger piece contains the majority of Idlib province, as well as the bulk of the rebels’ fighting strength. This includes large amounts of land held by Jabhat al-Nusra, Al Qaeda’s Syrian affiliate. The smaller piece north of Aleppo city is hemmed-in: to the north by Turkey, to the west by the YPG/SDF in Afrin Canton, to the south by regime forces and to the east by ISIS. This puts it in an incredibly precarious position, likely to begin losing territory to all three groups.
As important as the loss of this territory is, what is of greater impact to the overall war is the rebels’ loss of their most important supply line to Turkey. Rebels had relied on the Azaz corridor to supply Aleppo with munitions and other warfighting materiel which itself is covertly supplied from Turkey. The loss of this route means that rebels within the Aleppo urban area will have to source their supplies from much further afield, hampering their ability to rapidly re-arm. In addition, further regime advances maybe eventually cut off eastern Aleppo from Idlib entirely, subjecting the remaining rebel pocket to siege-like conditions.
A Turkish response?
Following the cutting of rebel territory, there have been claims that Turkey is planning to intervene directly in the Syrian conflict. Such reports are driven by repeated assertions by Turkish government officials that they plan to establish a safe zone in northern Syria for civilians and (likely) favored rebel groups. Encroachment on such areas by regime forces would make such an operation politically more difficult, so Turkey would have to take rapid and decisive action in the coming weeks should they be committed to this safe zone plan.
Among the most serious of these claims was that made by the Russian Defense Ministry which stated today that it had seen evidence of “a growing number of signs of hidden preparation of the Turkish Armed Forces for active action in Syria”. Accompanying this were a number of satellite images which they claim showed a build-up of Turkish armed forces along certain areas of the Syrian border. While these images are far from conclusive, when combined with earlier evidence of Turkey clearing mines alone its Syrian boarder, they show at the very least that the country is keeping its options open with respect to military intervention. With this in mind the next few weeks should show if the Syrian conflict has reached a tuning point in favor of the regime, or if a new phase of international intervention is set to begin.
http://www.conflict-news.com/rebels-in-syria-face-critical-defeat-around-aleppo/
So Kerry attended the Syrian fund raising conference in London today with Quatar and the usual suspects eg Turkey, UK selling arms to Saudi(oops ignore UN concerns), funding opposition forces. And stated he had robust discussion with Lavrov ,warning Rus,saying Rus must stop attacking, bombing etc civilians…….Rus has responsibilities to the UN resolution like all parties he said
Never any thanks to support rule of international law dealing with opposition which most media ignore and refuse to say are actually heavily armed as their form of democracy…….also Kerry meeting prior with Quatar Turkey etc to discuss stabilising and reconstruction when Assad has gone….thought there weren’t meant to be any pre-conditions…….
come on Rus, time to deal with this #### person even though Lavrov says he finds him very pleasant to get on with…………it ‘s all double dealing duplicity from USA…….
Sputnik reports tonight Saudi is willing to join USA coaltion with its own ground troops to go into Syria..to fight Daesh(believable?)……sorry cannot copy paste link…….Kirby hints this is being reviewed…….maybe already decided one could suspect, on humanitarian grounds???????
Gosh, so cynical…..,.
Here you are:
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160204/1034244705/saudi-ground-troops-syria.html
much appreciated—android tablet difficulties.sighs
Saudi Arabia’s army is almost exclusively a mercenary force, they can barely fight the Houthis, even with all the U.S. Kit like Apaches, F22s and Abrahams.
No way they will face IRGC or Hezbollah with air cover from RuAF. They would simply pack up and leave.
Some sad news from Syria today :
Russian Military Advisor Killed in Syria
A Russian military Advisor killed in Syria has been presented with a state award.
This was reported by the Ministry of Defense. “The Russian military adviser in Syria was instructing the Syrian army in the development of new weapons included in the framework of existing interstate contracts of military-technical cooperation”, reported the military. On 1st February, as a result of a mortar attack by terrorists of the Islamic State (group banned in Russia) at the military garrison, which is stationed one of the compounds of the Syrian army, the officer received a fatal wound. The soldier was presented the state award posthumously.
[O.R: It is not yet known whether this incident is related to the round of Turkish artillery fire on 1st February on the border.]
All respect to the truly brave men and women of the Russian and SAA forces and Iranian revolutionary guards and Hezbollah combatting this evil scourge that has been let loose on humanity, and condolences to the family of the deceased soldier. Keep up the good work guys and God be with you.
Thank you Russia, your sacrifice will live in the hearts of all freedom-loving people.
Sweden: Death By Immigration
(disgusting, this wonderful girl and others were murdered by our dear new citizens)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-04/sweden-death-immigration
Following on from the breaking news in Sputnik Int. and RT News today that the Russian MoD have serious grounds to think Erdogan is planning an invasion of Syria, the following has just been reported in the Guardian as well :
“Saudi Arabia offers to send ground troops to Syria to fight Isis
Thousands of special forces could be deployed, likely in coordination with Turkey, Saudi sources told the Guardian”.
Ok, I can see how things are beginning to shape up now. They are starting to assemble another of their coalitions of the damned to invade Syria all the while pretending to be “fighting” ISIS. If any body out there who is capable of critical thinking is still in any doubt who is really behind ISIS and who ISIS works for this should clarify things for them.
And let us take this one step further. Turkey is a key member of NATO and we all have had sufficient hard evidence from a multitude of sources that Turkey is helping and facilitating the actions of these jihadi scum with zero reaction from NATO, ergo these islamofascist scum are defacto NATO proxies in Americas demented drive for world hegemony.
I have said this before in the past and I will say it one more time now. Its all fine and dandy for the Russians to be taking out these vicious rats by their dozens, but this is in effect rather like treating the symptoms of a vicious disease instead of eliminating the disease itself, unless you eliminate the disease it just keeps spreading new symptoms everywhere.
I think the rest of the world outside the “west” had better understand one very basic and simple fact here : its either us or them.
To be fair, most migrants are NOT abusing or murdering anybody.
However – here is the dark side of what’s on the rise now:
EXCLUSIVE – Nazi daggers, SS hats and a hangman’s noose: On night patrol with the ‘Soldiers of Odin’, neo-Nazi led vigilantes vowing to ‘keep Europe’s women safe from migrant sex attacks’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3426685/Nazi-daggers-SS-hats-hangman-s-noose-night-patrol-Soldiers-Odin-neo-Nazi-led-vigilantes-vowing-Europe-s-women-safe-migrant-sex-attacks.html
And again you turn to hysterical Mainstream Media who time and time again demonise Russia and this time you listen to their garbage about Finnish Civilian Patrols. Wake up or piss off. You can’t lament the BS from same media outlets over Russia and then swallow whole what they have to say about other countries.
I can’t believe the hysterics. You do know that the MSM, Political Classes and Law Enforcement Authorities are doing their hardest to attack the native populations of the EU right? RIGHT???? Not like Russia with Murmansk’s dealing with sexual predators on their native women at the local Dance Club.
Shaking my head thinking Perkele!
Everyone here caught looking the exact wrong way, believing the latest tripe spewed.
It was a ‘nudge & a wink’ between Mr. Ed & the Sauds about coming to their aid in Yemen, not the reverse of any Saudi troops magically going overseas junketing.
Gawd help any ally desperate or stupid enough to take them onboard as allies!
This move would actually rank above Hitler’s move to take in Mussolini.
Things obviously beyond desperate on their southern front there to see this:
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13941115000841
http://wildstarlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Yemen-political-map.jpg
TEHRAN (FNA)- A senior Omani official disclosed on Thursday that the US administration has ordered to fugitive former Yemeni president Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi to immediately attack Sana’a.
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, the Omani official told FNA that in a telephone conversation the US administration urged Hadi to take matters into his own hands to, what they called, “liberate Sana’a”.
Saudi Arabia “Ready To Send Ground Troops To Syria” http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-04/saudi-arabia-ready-send-ground-troops-syria
welcome back……………….
German Lügenpresse headlines:
* Saudi Arabia ready to send ground troops to Syria
* Erdogan says further talks pointless because of Russian attacks
* USA put part of blame for Syria conference interruption on Russia
* Tens of thousands flee Russian bombs on Aleppo
Sounds like Turkey & Saudi will be coming to the rescue of ISIS …
The Phoenix Channel had the Tagesshau at 22.30 with the following themes : fund rising for Syria,Seehofer and Putin meeting in Moskau,Köln karneval.The meeting between Seehofer and Putin was left out…
At the London held conference,Syria was not invited.NATO is preparing for action in Libya,having put some 6000 troops on alert (just to secure Libya from Egypt in case…)
It seems that there are some idiots who really want a big war with Russia,and they still hope they could win it (this time)The actors are on the stage,the lights are going out one by one,the drama can begin…
A very important interview of Professor Stephen Cohen of NYU, an expert on Russia, discussing NATO’s plans for Russia & Ukraine:
https://audioboom.com/boos/4139013-nato-rearms-against-russia-2-2-16-stephen-f-cohen-nyu-princeton-eastwestaccord-com
I get the feeling the US plan is to precipitate another collapse of Russia’s government then move in with military forces to “stabilize” a fragmementing and splintered state.
There are indeed military forces spread all over the world but there is no military power which can stand a single year of asymmetric warfare. Remember Mogadishu/Somalia
HEZBOLLAH (part Two): Why Hezbollah is in Syria and until when?
Why would Hezbollah accept 1400 fighters killed and several thousands wounded over 3 years of war on numerous Syrian fronts? Is it the result of a strong bound or a strategic alliance?
Who is Hezbollah: From 1982 until 1992, Hezbollah was completely different from Hezbollah after 1992 to-date. The Shura council (Majlis Shura al-Qarar) and military leadership (later known as Majlis al-Jihadi) have changed from the one known today.
Hezbollah and Syria: The relationship between Hezbollah and Syria started long ago but was neither strategic nor constructive. On the contrary, Syria tried its best to destroy Hezbollah in the 80s, when the organisation was still very young. The first contact between Syria and Hezbollah in 1982 was not direct but happened through Iran when the Islamic Republic sent a large contingent to Syria, establishing itself in Zabadani, Syria, and in the Lebanese Bekaa Valley during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. It remained as such for many long years. More details under “the Origin of Hezbollah”.
According to a Hezbollah commander, since the start, President Hafez Assad did not allow Hezbollah to receive specific weapons from Iran that were “balance breaking” even if designated to fight Israel. Arms used to reach Damascus airport, were off-loaded by the Syrians and delivered to Hezbollah, after inspection and selection.
Syria saw in Hezbollah as a threat to its long strategically planned presence in Lebanon and defined its fighters as a “bunch of outlaws and rebels”. Therefore, the Syrian political leadership considered receiving destructive weapons could create a menace as these could potentially be used, one day, against the Syrian Army in Lebanon. Moreover, Assad wanted to keep a certain balance between his relationship with the United States of America and Iran at that time.
I travelled to Lebanon in 1981 to cover the Palestinian organisations where I met Yasser Arafat, Salah Khalaf, Farouq al-Qaddoumi and different Palestinian leaders, in the area of al-Jamea al-Arabia in Beirut where PLO had one of its main HQ. In 1982, the Israeli invasion came as a surprise while I was learning more about the various groups involved in the Lebanese civil war. The invasion was key to understand the birth of “Hezbollah”. Since the borders with Lebanon were confined with Israel from the South and with Syria from the North and the East, Damascus was the only way out or in the country from where Hezbollah received its support from Iran or to travel outside the country. The road through Damascus was a necessity. But the contact between Hezbollah and Syria was not easy, neither very friendly since the beginning
Syria pushed its forces into Lebanon as part of the Arab Deterrent Force, an international peacekeeping force created by the Arab league following a Riyadh (Saudi Arabia) Summit in Octobre 1976, to halt the civil war. Syria had decided to stay in the country and didn’t pull out until 2005. Syria spread its forces from the North, to the East in the Bekaa Valley, going through the capital Beirut and until Saida, in the south of Lebanon. Damascus controlled all key figures and institutions in the country, promoting leaders and dismissing others. No group was allowed to stand and operate without its consensus.
The Fathallah Barracks: The relationship between Syria and Hezbollah was difficult because Hezbollah was under Iran’s not Syria’s orbit. It became bloody in 1986, when Mustafa Shehadeh, a Hezbollah responsible of Beirut sector then, arrested 12 Syrian soldiers and their officer in west Beirut. Shahadeh, who had his office in Nuweiry where I met him the first time with his deputy Ihab, humiliated the soldiers by beating them up, shaving their heads and one side of the officer’s moustache before releasing them. Shehadeh burned the Syrian Army cars and warned them never to return again. Two month later, on the 26th of February 1987, Syrian soldiers entered western Beirut, positioned themselves in Basta area where Shehade had shown his strength, and killed 24 Hezbollah members. These were gathering on that Thursday evening to read a Shia prayer, Dua’ Kumeil, as done weekly. One Hezbollah among the total of 25, Mohammad al-Shami, was wounded in his hand and shoulder, and informed Hezbollah of the event.
The next day, on Friday, I took a taxi to visit the scene. The Syrian established a barrack in Fathallah where, on the right hand side, the building where the killing took place, and, on the left, a large parking and a building that was once Hezbollah prison and where some foreign hostages were kept under the ground. When I asked the Syrian soldier for information, it was clear from his reaction the tension was at its pinnacle.
In fact, on that same day, Imad Mughniyeh (IM), a known figurehead, gathered 400 men with the aim to kill the 120 Syrian soldiers stationed in the area, in order to avenge the 24. The attack was stopped as Iran used all of its influence to force Hezbollah to lift the siege. Tehran was cooler headed than the enthusiastic and young inexperience Hezbollah.
U.S. Col William Richard Higgins and Hezbollah:
That was not the end of the tension, in 1988, U.S. Col William Richard Higgins was kidnapped while in a car, driving between Naqoura and Tyre. He was escorted by another United Nations’ car driving behind him. As he took a blind turn, several cars were involved, blocking intentionally the escort car behind, told me an eyewitness, enough for Higgins to be abducted. He was among tens of other hostages that were kidnapped by different organisations in Lebanon between 1985 until 1992 under what was known as the “Hostages crisis”.
AMAL and Hezbollah:
The hostage’s crisis was a turn when the Syrian forces declared war on Hezbollah through A.M.A.L, the main and largest Shia movement of the time in Lebanon. Nabih Berri, the head of AMAL, ordered his military commander in the south of Lebanon Dawood Dawood to escalate against Hezbollah. Many were hunted down and imprisoned. The tension with AMAl was not new.
According to Hezbollah, AMAl was arresting anyone holding weapons and willing to fight Israel in the south of Lebanon. Israel warned that it would destroy any village or city if attacks were registered against its troops. AMAl endorsed the Israeli warning, accepted the Israeli equation and the will of Syria to eliminate Hezbollah. In fact, during the 1982 Israeli invasion to Lebanon, Israel allowed AMAl to keep its weapons because it was clashing with the Palestinians years before. AMAl was not the enemy for Israel but Israel was the enemy for Hezbollah. Syria wanted the south of Lebanon calm without clashes or lack of security.
Those who were in power for Lebanon, on the Syrian part, were the Syrian vice President Abdel Halim Khaddam and General Ghazi Kenaan, the Syrian head of the Intelligence service in Lebanon. They asked Berri to get rid of Hezbollah. They also have managed to convinced President Assad that “Hezbollah should disappear because it was an obstacle to Syria’ influence in Lebanon”. Thus, Syria declared war on Hezbollah.
Dawood Dawood arrested and imprisoned many Hezbollah members and some were executed. Hezbollah decided to respond. In Ouza’i, in the suburb of Beirut, on the road to the south, just 10 meters away from a Syrian checkpoint, Dawood Dawood and two other AMAL leaders, Mohamad Fakih and Hasan Sbeity were leaving Beirut. Several gunmen surrounded the car and opened the fire against them. One of the gunman, I was told by eye witness, jumped on the boot and emptied his AK-47 in the bodies. The inter-Shia war began.
End of part two.
https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2016/02/04/hezbollah-part-two-why-hezbollah-is-in-syria-and-until-when/
” Saudi Arabia ready to take part in any US-led ground operations in Syria – military spokesman”
As long as the bullies keep repeating this kind of lame talk, we know nothing will happen…
Slightly OT
Eye-opening interview with Robbie Martin, director of “A Very Heavy Agenda”, a three-part documentary on a very esoteric subject – a bizarre death-cult knowns as the Neocons.
Featuring Robert Kagan, Fred Kagan, Donald Kagan, Silly Kagan, Baby Kagan and of course… Vicki ‘Nuland’ Nudelmann.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Z8bwifCmA
http://russia-insider.com/en/excellent-interview-director-new-film-about-neocons-video/ri12620
http://www.filmsforaction.org/filmsforaction/
Watch Pt.1 Free through Feb.7 at
http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/a-very-heavy-agenda-2015/
Closing In: Russia, Iran, Assad “Encircle” Syria’s Largest City As Peace Talks Collapse In Geneva
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-04/closing-russia-iran-assad-encircle-syrias-largest-city-peace-talks-collapse-geneva
(and yes, all those who are real refugees shall please get shelter and protection here in Germany!!)
What is all this talk of Russia and Syria and Turkey and Libya and ISIS and USA and Saudi and Nuland and GB and Quatar and UK and Hezbollah and Daesh and NATO and EU and Erdoggan and Nazi Daggers d- did I miss anything? Oh yes…
Gentlemen…look around you at the gifts of God, the clear sky, the pure air, the tender grass, the birds; nature is beautiful and sincere, and we don’t understand that life is a paradise, for we have only to understand that and it will at once be fulfilled in all it’s beauty, we shall embrace each other and weep.
Fyodor Dostoevsky ‘The Brothers Karamazov’
Looks like SAA trying to create smaller and smaller cauldrons and push the terrorist out. Still 2 border crossing are controlled by terrorists which would be easy for the YPG to close but I suppose they wont move fearing a Turkish backlash..
Aleppo is not fully cut off.. They are getting cut off from reinforcements from other parts of Syria. 40,000 terrorists and supporters now at turkeys border waiting to flee..
Here pics of Syrians massing at #Syria side of Bab alSalameh border crossing. Turkey is not allowing them in
https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/695593951592484865
Over 100,000 civilians flee to #Turkey as #Putin, #Assad bomb #Aleppo
https://twitter.com/2Rook14/status/695619737603043328
As for north Aleppo countryside (Tel Rifat, Marea) it’s now cut off from Aleppo-city, Aleppo west-countryside &Idlib
Aleppo-city now surrounded by SAA from 3 sides (south,north,east) & no way to Bab alSalameh, only to Bab alHawa
https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/695588921929936896
Allah Wo Akbar!!! GOD is GREAT!!!
https://twitter.com/BBassem7/status/686424268784009216
If you cant advance from the front, come from the rear where defenses are not setup.
HD https://t.co/UdRkhqDCSC
https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/695303664043433985
What a shame! This is #Sweden. Syrian kids sleeping in the snow outside a Migration Board outside Stockholm. Photo: EPA
https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/693754428185145344
Report about hospitals being struck when you think Russia is bombing. Learn it was France & put a new spin on it. Sheikh John Kerry has gone full takfiri.