And so the question needs to be asked “So,what if Russia did strike ISIS without the US’s “approval”.As the saying goes “you ain’t the boss of me”.If Russia needs to lauch air strikes against ISIS they don’t need “permission” from the US,only from the Syrian government.And I doubt there would be any problem at all getting that.
This is an article just published at Fort Russ.If its confirmed (I’m not sure its true) it would be great.And explain a lot of why the Empire is going wild with fear over Russia in Syria:
“China deploys troops to help Russia in Syria”
Remember the joint military exercises of Russia and China in the sea and on land? With landing on shore and fighting against terrorists?
And here is the answer to the question of why they trained together.
Rusvesna:
“An Arab news source [Al Masdar News] reports that a military contingent of the PRC is on the way to Latakia and will arrive in Syrian ports any day. Chinese transport with military cargo was spotted on Tuesday morning, passing through the Suez canal.
Information about the Chinese military experts heading to Tartus was confirmed by the commander of the Syrian army. The report concludes that Moscow will create in Syria an anti-terrorist coalition that will become the alternative version of the military alliance formed by the US for dropping supplies to ISIS. Military entrance of China into the struggle for Syria will be an important addition to today’s statement by the Iranian Foreign Ministry. At a press conference with “Russia Today” deputy foreign minister of Iran, Hossein Amir Abdollahian stated that Iran will fight ISIS together with Russia. Notably Amir talked not just about an alliance, but a creation of a broad military coalition.
“We welcome the Russian President’s proposal on establishment of a common front in a fight against terrorism and are even ready in realizing this initiative to carry out joint operations and cooperate together,” – said deputy foreign minister of Iran.
That Russia will fight terrorists with Iran’s hands, English resources have been writing for a week. And the joining of China into the support group has exceeded all imaginable expectations. The presence of the international coalition significantly changes the balance of power in favor of Moscow, untying Russian hands for direct military action in the Middle East.”
It seems that Russia has finally returned to the Middle East.
MOSCOW, September 24. /TASS/. An exercise of the Russian naval task force, including the Moskva guided missile cruiser, will take place in the eastern Mediterranean in the near future, the Defense Ministry press office told journalists on Thursday.
The press office said that the pace of combat training of the Russian Armed Forces “increases traditionally” in September and October.
“Under the combat training plan approved in late 2014, an exercise was planned for the period in the eastern part of the Mediterranean. The Russian Navy force comprising the Moskva Guards guided missile cruiser, Smetlivy patrol ship, Saratov large amphibious assault ship and support vessels will conduct the exercise,” the Defense Ministry said.
According to the press office, the task force will conducts over 40 tactical drills as part of the overall exercise, including missile and artillery fires on surface and aerial targets. In addition, the ships will practice air, antisubmarine and antiship defense, combat search and rescue operations, communications procedures and rescuing a ship in distress.
“The exercise area earmarked by the Russian Navy has been announced off-limits to commercial shipping and air traffic under international maritime law,” the press office emphasized.
The Russian Navy’s first exercise in the Mediterranean took place in January 2013 following a years-long interval.”
Usually the Chinese really really loathe to send troops abroad. But I think their leadership now sees that as necessary. I think, like Putin, they see a clear and present danger that a coming Great War is real, and need to get their troops some real combat experience as part of “preparation”.
Of course, I could be just over reading things.
I don’t watch MSM TV news anymore (cnn, nbc, abc, fox, etc), but on the radio I still listen to npr (nothing else to do while driving!). Guess what I heard today:
1. they said that Putin will meet with Obama at the UN. They then say that this is “requested” by Putin, then said that because of sanctions, RF’s economy is very very bad, and so, says the npr news segment, that this could be “an act of desperation by Putin” !!!
LOL, I couldn’t stop laughing… Yeah, Putin the Great desperate for Obama’s help, go figure. The news person obviously is living in a universe that is different but parallel to mine, I guess.
2. Then the npr news segment moves on to the refugee/immigrants problem in Europe, they then have someone says that it’s great news for those countries that take in these refugees, because they are all highly educated. They then say that some or all newly graduated Syrian students quickly fly or go to Europe to escape the war, then they have some business people (i.e. employers) say how great it is that they can pick such talents, and say how tough it is to find talents. Yeah right, EU is at full employment, dont u know ? and it leads me to think, well, if it’s so “great”, hey, why not do even more bombing to get more such talents ? yeah, just bomb more, we’ll get even more talent!
Anyway, just 2 more simple examples how sick MSM, esp NPR has become…
The Rand Corporation is delighted to insist on chaos: “The past few years have been a reminder that stability is not the natural state of the international environment, that peace is not self-perpetuating and whole regions can suddenly fall into anarchy “.
What is clear, according to the Rand Corporation, it is that without the unipolar US leadership appears anarchy.
—
Another:
WE are the hegemon. WE act & WE make history. YOU study us.
John Kirby, State Dept spokesman: “Last time I looked, ISIL [Islamic State] is not flying any aircraft,” Kirby said. “So the fact that you have fighter aircraft, air-to-air capabilities brings up legitimate question. Because they don’t have aircraft, the need to have surface-to-air missile capability is a little bit quizzical.”
“Some of that, I think you could reasonably argue, could be effective against terrorists. Some of that is a little less clear. So, I think we continue to have legitimate concerns and questions about Russia’s overall intent here,” Kirby said.
[YOU, Kirby, can study it.]
Oh, help me, I do love it!
The embassy of the United States in Damascus website was counting their chickens before their eggs were hatched.
January 2014 the US state department was looking for US citizens to invest in oil, agriculture, and telecommunications in “opposition” held areas.
It seems they were confident of accomplishing regime change in the near future, and were getting in quick to control oil, agriculture, and communications.
To help Syrians begin to rebuild, the U.S. Department of Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) issued a Statement of Licensing Policy inviting U.S. persons to apply for specific licenses to participate in certain economic activities in Syria. The OFAC Statement focused on applications to engage in oil-related transactions that benefit the Syrian Coalition, or its supporters, and transactions involving Syria’s agricultural and telecommunications sectors. OFAC also amended Syria General License 11 to authorize the exportation of services and funds transfers in support of not-for-profit activities to preserve and protect cultural heritage sites in Syria.
I think one thing that endears President Putin to many in the World (me included) is his ability to state facts bluntly when called for .Or in other words his ability to “tell it like it is”.I’m hoping we will see that played out at the UN on Monday.But in case not,here are a couple of videos as an example of his style:
I think the world [meaning your good self, yours truly and many, many other people around the globe] will release a collective sigh of relief, once the last words have rolled off his [Ptuin’s] tongue on Monday
—
The Pope addressed Congress, and he omitted part of the prepared draft. Here’s the omitted part. Note that the purpose of the paragraph is the punch line at the end. Guess he chickened out.
” Here I think of the political history of the United States, where democracy is deeply rooted in the mind of the American people. All political activity must serve and promote the good of the human person and be based on respect for his or her dignity. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” (Declaration of Independence, 4 July 1776). If politics must truly be at the service of the human person, it follows that it cannot be a slave to the economy and finance.”
This is one of my favorite videos of Putin.Even though it was supposed to be anti-Putin,I think the reporter made a mistake with that idea.Most “regular folks” were more than happy to see the billionaire eat a bit of crow,and were pleased with Putin.I’d love to see him use this method with the junta (well actually I’d be happier with a firing squad for them.But this would be good for a start).
Thought I’d throw in a good fairly new video of an old Cossack song (with Eng Subs).Its one of my favorites and a Russian friend referred me to it today:
No I can’t.Which shows clearly a big difference.In the West the rich own the political leaders.But in Russia (and even more true of China) the rich stay rich as long as they stay out of politics.Would that that were true here in the West.
While the Central Bankers’ puppet-politicians gather in New York to sip champagne and talk nihilism on the sidelines of the 70. UN General Assembly, a miniscule yet formidable Russian strike force has set up shop in Syria and is busily working to pole-shift the whole Middle Eastern power constellation for decades to come.
The SAA (Syrian Arab Army), the SAAF (Syrian Air Force), the Hezbollah, Iranian Commandos and even the Syrian Kurds north of Aleppo work feverishly hand in hand with the Russians to bring Syria back from the brink of extinction, to secure key cities and the most important high-ways.
By Monday 28, when President Putin is scheduled to give a speech to the UN General Assembly for the first time in 10 years, the situation on the ground in Syria will have already reached the point-of-no-return.
Bye, bye, ISIS in Syria. And then the real work begins.
Its pathetically hilarious to hear the US media attempt to explain the rational of how Russia attacking ISIS is destabilizing for Syria and will add to humanitarian refugee crisis. No one mentions A) Syria wants them there. B) The US military is supposed to be destroying ISIS C) Why hasn’t US military been able to degrade and destroy ISIS. I hope the rumors about China sending troops also is true. If China also sends troops to eliminate ISIS the US goal of the removal of Al Assad is completely over. They will look terrible on the world stage at attempting to somehow say getting rid of ISIS is bad. We all know the US created ISIS and it probably became to big for the CIA to handle but they never wanted to destroy them just bomb them enough to keep them focused on Syria. I don’t think the US ever thought they would go into Iraq the way they did. I don’t think they were on board with that action. I also think at some point the leaders in ISIS told their CIA handlers what they wanted to hear but then do their own thing. So i do think the US attacking them is real but its punishment only for going off script. You can clearly see that the US military is doing little to really hurt them and there must be a reason for that. The above is my guess as to why.
As the Telegraph reports, most Japanese citizens vehemently oppose the initiative, but representatives of the Empire are declaring themselves satisfied, emitting Orwellian language in the process (“war is peace”):
Japan made a controversial change to its constitution on Friday night, loosening restrictions on its armed forces that have applied since the Second World War. The reform will allow Japan to use force to defend a foreign ally, not simply its own territory. As such, Japan’s formidable armed services will weigh more heavily in the Pacific balance of power.
[…]
America supports Mr Abe’s reform, which will help to tip the regional balance of military power against China. Philip Hammond, the Foreign Secretary, welcomed the passage of the law, saying: “We look forward to Japan taking an increasingly active part in peacekeeping operations and supporting international efforts to secure peace and prosperity.”
However, opinion polls suggest that most Japanese oppose the change. Shortly before the law was approved, Akira Gunji, from the opposition Democratic party, said: “We should not allow such a dangerous government to continue like this.”
(emphasis added)
Who cares about what the citizens want? It is yet another demonstration that modern-day democracies are in many ways really a kind of updated feudalism. If the power elites want something, it matters not one whit what the electorate wants.
And so the question needs to be asked “So,what if Russia did strike ISIS without the US’s “approval”.As the saying goes “you ain’t the boss of me”.If Russia needs to lauch air strikes against ISIS they don’t need “permission” from the US,only from the Syrian government.And I doubt there would be any problem at all getting that.
This is an article just published at Fort Russ.If its confirmed (I’m not sure its true) it would be great.And explain a lot of why the Empire is going wild with fear over Russia in Syria:
“China deploys troops to help Russia in Syria”
Remember the joint military exercises of Russia and China in the sea and on land? With landing on shore and fighting against terrorists?
And here is the answer to the question of why they trained together.
Rusvesna:
“An Arab news source [Al Masdar News] reports that a military contingent of the PRC is on the way to Latakia and will arrive in Syrian ports any day. Chinese transport with military cargo was spotted on Tuesday morning, passing through the Suez canal.
Information about the Chinese military experts heading to Tartus was confirmed by the commander of the Syrian army. The report concludes that Moscow will create in Syria an anti-terrorist coalition that will become the alternative version of the military alliance formed by the US for dropping supplies to ISIS. Military entrance of China into the struggle for Syria will be an important addition to today’s statement by the Iranian Foreign Ministry. At a press conference with “Russia Today” deputy foreign minister of Iran, Hossein Amir Abdollahian stated that Iran will fight ISIS together with Russia. Notably Amir talked not just about an alliance, but a creation of a broad military coalition.
“We welcome the Russian President’s proposal on establishment of a common front in a fight against terrorism and are even ready in realizing this initiative to carry out joint operations and cooperate together,” – said deputy foreign minister of Iran.
That Russia will fight terrorists with Iran’s hands, English resources have been writing for a week. And the joining of China into the support group has exceeded all imaginable expectations. The presence of the international coalition significantly changes the balance of power in favor of Moscow, untying Russian hands for direct military action in the Middle East.”
It seems that Russia has finally returned to the Middle East.
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/09/reports-chinese-ships-head-to-syria.html
plus
MOSCOW, September 24. /TASS/. An exercise of the Russian naval task force, including the Moskva guided missile cruiser, will take place in the eastern Mediterranean in the near future, the Defense Ministry press office told journalists on Thursday.
The press office said that the pace of combat training of the Russian Armed Forces “increases traditionally” in September and October.
“Under the combat training plan approved in late 2014, an exercise was planned for the period in the eastern part of the Mediterranean. The Russian Navy force comprising the Moskva Guards guided missile cruiser, Smetlivy patrol ship, Saratov large amphibious assault ship and support vessels will conduct the exercise,” the Defense Ministry said.
According to the press office, the task force will conducts over 40 tactical drills as part of the overall exercise, including missile and artillery fires on surface and aerial targets. In addition, the ships will practice air, antisubmarine and antiship defense, combat search and rescue operations, communications procedures and rescuing a ship in distress.
“The exercise area earmarked by the Russian Navy has been announced off-limits to commercial shipping and air traffic under international maritime law,” the press office emphasized.
The Russian Navy’s first exercise in the Mediterranean took place in January 2013 following a years-long interval.”
Usually the Chinese really really loathe to send troops abroad. But I think their leadership now sees that as necessary. I think, like Putin, they see a clear and present danger that a coming Great War is real, and need to get their troops some real combat experience as part of “preparation”.
Of course, I could be just over reading things.
I don’t watch MSM TV news anymore (cnn, nbc, abc, fox, etc), but on the radio I still listen to npr (nothing else to do while driving!). Guess what I heard today:
1. they said that Putin will meet with Obama at the UN. They then say that this is “requested” by Putin, then said that because of sanctions, RF’s economy is very very bad, and so, says the npr news segment, that this could be “an act of desperation by Putin” !!!
LOL, I couldn’t stop laughing… Yeah, Putin the Great desperate for Obama’s help, go figure. The news person obviously is living in a universe that is different but parallel to mine, I guess.
2. Then the npr news segment moves on to the refugee/immigrants problem in Europe, they then have someone says that it’s great news for those countries that take in these refugees, because they are all highly educated. They then say that some or all newly graduated Syrian students quickly fly or go to Europe to escape the war, then they have some business people (i.e. employers) say how great it is that they can pick such talents, and say how tough it is to find talents. Yeah right, EU is at full employment, dont u know ? and it leads me to think, well, if it’s so “great”, hey, why not do even more bombing to get more such talents ? yeah, just bomb more, we’ll get even more talent!
Anyway, just 2 more simple examples how sick MSM, esp NPR has become…
@ alan,
Q; LOL, I couldn’t stop laughing…
R; Add my voice to the chorus as well :o)
Here’s another one:
The Rand Corporation is delighted to insist on chaos: “The past few years have been a reminder that stability is not the natural state of the international environment, that peace is not self-perpetuating and whole regions can suddenly fall into anarchy “.
What is clear, according to the Rand Corporation, it is that without the unipolar US leadership appears anarchy.
—
Another:
WE are the hegemon. WE act & WE make history. YOU study us.
John Kirby, State Dept spokesman: “Last time I looked, ISIL [Islamic State] is not flying any aircraft,” Kirby said. “So the fact that you have fighter aircraft, air-to-air capabilities brings up legitimate question. Because they don’t have aircraft, the need to have surface-to-air missile capability is a little bit quizzical.”
“Some of that, I think you could reasonably argue, could be effective against terrorists. Some of that is a little less clear. So, I think we continue to have legitimate concerns and questions about Russia’s overall intent here,” Kirby said.
[YOU, Kirby, can study it.]
Oh, help me, I do love it!
The embassy of the United States in Damascus website was counting their chickens before their eggs were hatched.
January 2014 the US state department was looking for US citizens to invest in oil, agriculture, and telecommunications in “opposition” held areas.
It seems they were confident of accomplishing regime change in the near future, and were getting in quick to control oil, agriculture, and communications.
The Syrian Crisis: U.S. Assistance and Support for the Transition
http://damascus.usembassy.gov/statedept011814en2.html
Additional Support for the Syrian People
To help Syrians begin to rebuild, the U.S. Department of Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) issued a Statement of Licensing Policy inviting U.S. persons to apply for specific licenses to participate in certain economic activities in Syria. The OFAC Statement focused on applications to engage in oil-related transactions that benefit the Syrian Coalition, or its supporters, and transactions involving Syria’s agricultural and telecommunications sectors. OFAC also amended Syria General License 11 to authorize the exportation of services and funds transfers in support of not-for-profit activities to preserve and protect cultural heritage sites in Syria.
Way to go Anonymous! Nail the deceitful bastards!
Great article from off-guardian –
In the age of media manipulation how much can we afford to take on trust ?
http://off-guardian.org/2015/09/22/in-the-age-of-media-manipulation-how-much-can-we-afford-to-take-on-trust/
Good ole NPR….I heard the same thing…my initial response was changing channels, but after that I laughed too.
it’ll be great if there is just a website for npr listeners to keep making fun of them…
Putin himself this week admitted that the Russian economy is in bad shape. Look up the stories on Tass.
I think one thing that endears President Putin to many in the World (me included) is his ability to state facts bluntly when called for .Or in other words his ability to “tell it like it is”.I’m hoping we will see that played out at the UN on Monday.But in case not,here are a couple of videos as an example of his style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=BF-6TsqPoQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=hniR-KVtUCo
@ Uncle Bob 1,
Thanks for the links. Appreciated.
I think the world [meaning your good self, yours truly and many, many other people around the globe] will release a collective sigh of relief, once the last words have rolled off his [Ptuin’s] tongue on Monday
Terrific, Uncle Bob. I had never seen those two.
—
The Pope addressed Congress, and he omitted part of the prepared draft. Here’s the omitted part. Note that the purpose of the paragraph is the punch line at the end. Guess he chickened out.
” Here I think of the political history of the United States, where democracy is deeply rooted in the mind of the American people. All political activity must serve and promote the good of the human person and be based on respect for his or her dignity. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” (Declaration of Independence, 4 July 1776). If politics must truly be at the service of the human person, it follows that it cannot be a slave to the economy and finance.”
Great links Uncle Bob!!
That’s the essence of Putin (“Have you no common sense ??!!?”)
No, Vladimirovitch, they don’t.
But you – thanks be to jaysus! – do !!
Can you imagine how much worse the world would be if we didn’t have someone like this at the helm of Mothership Russia?
What if it was Navalny?
OMG..
Here’s a clip of Mr. Putin, dating 2 years back [2013] – link to youtube [warning Rotham is in it as well]
It’s is now blatantly obvious Putin was indeed thinking 15 steps ahead.
The ‘wow’ factor only increases, day after day. after day.
This is one of my favorite videos of Putin.Even though it was supposed to be anti-Putin,I think the reporter made a mistake with that idea.Most “regular folks” were more than happy to see the billionaire eat a bit of crow,and were pleased with Putin.I’d love to see him use this method with the junta (well actually I’d be happier with a firing squad for them.But this would be good for a start).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjrlTMvirVo
Thought I’d throw in a good fairly new video of an old Cossack song (with Eng Subs).Its one of my favorites and a Russian friend referred me to it today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=36&v=eR7m-EInZLA
precious
could you imagine any western politican doing this ?
i agree with your firing squad suggestion — especially for the banksters
No I can’t.Which shows clearly a big difference.In the West the rich own the political leaders.But in Russia (and even more true of China) the rich stay rich as long as they stay out of politics.Would that that were true here in the West.
@ Uncle Bob 1,
Q; “Give me back my pen…”
R; You’re a decent guy and I’m a foulmouthed village idiot, but OMFG, that’s sheer brilliance.
Imagine, 2 bullies sidelined in 1 swoop.
I gotta pinch myself.
Ff-ing auch, but it’s still all very true.
I thought I had a very firm grasp on world events… obviously, I don’t.
Tough to eat some humble pie.
But I still can eat.
that’s the best version of the song that I’ve ever heard..what a special thing to be able to listen to that. Thanks Bob
The truth is stranger than fiction.
While the Central Bankers’ puppet-politicians gather in New York to sip champagne and talk nihilism on the sidelines of the 70. UN General Assembly, a miniscule yet formidable Russian strike force has set up shop in Syria and is busily working to pole-shift the whole Middle Eastern power constellation for decades to come.
The SAA (Syrian Arab Army), the SAAF (Syrian Air Force), the Hezbollah, Iranian Commandos and even the Syrian Kurds north of Aleppo work feverishly hand in hand with the Russians to bring Syria back from the brink of extinction, to secure key cities and the most important high-ways.
By Monday 28, when President Putin is scheduled to give a speech to the UN General Assembly for the first time in 10 years, the situation on the ground in Syria will have already reached the point-of-no-return.
Bye, bye, ISIS in Syria. And then the real work begins.
Breaking news a.m. London time
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34355394
DPR & LPR order UN & NGO’s out!
ignore the spin!!!
That BBC link has now been removed and there is nothing about the topic on
http://novorossia.today/
very strange….. Hmmm
Its pathetically hilarious to hear the US media attempt to explain the rational of how Russia attacking ISIS is destabilizing for Syria and will add to humanitarian refugee crisis. No one mentions A) Syria wants them there. B) The US military is supposed to be destroying ISIS C) Why hasn’t US military been able to degrade and destroy ISIS. I hope the rumors about China sending troops also is true. If China also sends troops to eliminate ISIS the US goal of the removal of Al Assad is completely over. They will look terrible on the world stage at attempting to somehow say getting rid of ISIS is bad. We all know the US created ISIS and it probably became to big for the CIA to handle but they never wanted to destroy them just bomb them enough to keep them focused on Syria. I don’t think the US ever thought they would go into Iraq the way they did. I don’t think they were on board with that action. I also think at some point the leaders in ISIS told their CIA handlers what they wanted to hear but then do their own thing. So i do think the US attacking them is real but its punishment only for going off script. You can clearly see that the US military is doing little to really hurt them and there must be a reason for that. The above is my guess as to why.
Russia should first help to liberate all of Novorossiya from Charkov to Odessa, and then help Syria.
Meanwhile, over there in the land of the Rising (Setting?) Sun, we have more Arrows from Abe-san, especially militaristic ones:
http://www.acting-man.com/?p=40305
As the Telegraph reports, most Japanese citizens vehemently oppose the initiative, but representatives of the Empire are declaring themselves satisfied, emitting Orwellian language in the process (“war is peace”):
Japan made a controversial change to its constitution on Friday night, loosening restrictions on its armed forces that have applied since the Second World War. The reform will allow Japan to use force to defend a foreign ally, not simply its own territory. As such, Japan’s formidable armed services will weigh more heavily in the Pacific balance of power.
[…]
America supports Mr Abe’s reform, which will help to tip the regional balance of military power against China. Philip Hammond, the Foreign Secretary, welcomed the passage of the law, saying: “We look forward to Japan taking an increasingly active part in peacekeeping operations and supporting international efforts to secure peace and prosperity.”
However, opinion polls suggest that most Japanese oppose the change. Shortly before the law was approved, Akira Gunji, from the opposition Democratic party, said: “We should not allow such a dangerous government to continue like this.”
(emphasis added)
Who cares about what the citizens want? It is yet another demonstration that modern-day democracies are in many ways really a kind of updated feudalism. If the power elites want something, it matters not one whit what the electorate wants.