One of our readers found this today and posted it in our open thread. The full article is now posted here for all to read.
link to original on sputnik news… webmaster
Sputnik written by Ekaterina Blinova
What is taking place today is a battle for global dominance, waged by major Western geopolitical players, and what is at stake here is the future of our planet, an anonymous US analyst who goes by the name ‘The Saker’ told Sputnik; as for Daesh, it is simply a weapon, he adds.
Putin Plays Waiting Game as NATO Presses Self-Destruct Button During the Paris Climate Change Conference (COP21), Russian President Putin revealed that Moscow has evidence confirming that the Russian Su-24 bomber was shot down by Turkey in order to protect oil deliveries from Daesh (ISIL/ISIS), adding that oil from Daesh-occupied fields has been transferred to Turkey on an industrial scale.
But is it possible that Turkey is selling the stolen oil without Washington’s knowledge? Are the Turkish officials who are responsible for oil smuggling acting alone or are they backed by some influential oil market players?
“US intelligence agencies suffer from many weaknesses, but being unable to track money movements is not one of them,” The Saker, an anonymous top level American military analyst, told Sputnik in an exclusive interview.
“Furthermore, both the USA and Israel have an extensive network for agents in Turkey. I thus consider it extremely unlikely that anybody in Turkey would be able to move around large sums of money without the US being fully aware of that. Also, consider that Daesh is a top-priority target for US intelligence agencies and that their immense data collection capabilities are also focused on the Daesh side of the equation,” he emphasized.
“Finally,” The Saker added, “the illegal sale of oil is a minor element in a much more important battle between the USA and the Russia-Iran-Syria alliance and, thus, the US would never allow it to interfere with its bigger objectives.”
The analyst underscored that corruption has long been an integral part of the US “imperial” system.
“Corruption being one key feature of the US Empire, it is normal for the US deep state to allow its local puppets to engage in profitable war profiteering, but only as long as this does not interfere with the global US strategy,” he stressed.
Experts call attention to the fact that the shooting down of the Su-24 could have been Turkish President Erdogan’s “act of revenge,” given the fact that his family has reportedly been involved in Daesh’s oil smuggling business. In his recent interview with Radio Sputnik, Middle East analyst Stanislav Tarasov noted that “Erdogan’s family is directly involved in the incident,” and suggested that “we could soon learn that President Erdogan himself is directly linked to ISIL.”
But was the downing of the Su-24 bomber by the Turkish F-16 fighter a “lone wolf” operation or a preplanned action coordinated by NATO and Washington? If so, what goal does NATO/Washington have in mind?
“The downing of the SU-24 was definitely a major and carefully planned ambush operation which involved a large number of Turkish F-16 [being] constantly held on airborne alert positions. The notion that the Americans did not know about this all along is ridiculous,” The Saker elaborated.
Putin: Russia Has Evidence Su-24 Shot Down to Protect Daesh Oil Deliveries
“Make no mistake, this was an act of war by the USA and NATO, but executed in such a manner as to provide the real culprits some degree of plausible deniability. The hope was to have Russia over-react and trigger a direct confrontation which could be them blamed on Russia. You have to keep in mind that the Russian force in Syria is a very small one and that it is vulnerable. Even with 60+ combat aircraft and S-400s, the Russian force is much smaller than the Turkish air force, which has well over 200 F-16s. The USA is now using this vulnerability to provoke Russia,” the analyst told Sputnik.
The Saker noted that the Turks themselves had violated the Syrian and, especially, Greek airspace hundreds of times “and not just once for 17 seconds.” In the wake of the incident, Ankara suggested that the alleged intrusion of the Russian Su-24 into Turkish airspace had lasted a mere 17 seconds.
“The very fact that they actually used this “17 seconds” excuse it by itself is a clear provocation, designed to humiliate Russian and trigger an over-reaction. Thank God Putin and the Kremlin did not take this bait,” The Saker underscored.
Interestingly enough, the incident in Syrian airspace had been preceded by an act of sabotage in Ukraine: on November 20, unidentified saboteurs blew up the main power lines in Ukraine leading into Crimea; Crimean Tatar activists blocked access to fallen lines. Given the close ties between Ankara and Crimean Tatars (Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu is reportedly of Crimean Tatar descent himself), the question arises, whether the two action were connected in any way?
“I have no information showing any links, but what is clear is that Turkey is waging its own mini-war of influence against Russia, not only in Crimea, but also in the Caucasus and Central Asia,” The Saker told Sputnik, commenting on the issue.
Remarkably, in 2001, then-modest academic Dr. Ahmet Davutoglu published a book entitled “Strategic Depth.” In his book, Davutoglu suggested that Turkey possesses a unique “strategic depth” due to its historical and geographical position. The would-be Turkish prime minister argued that Turkey should simultaneously exercise its influence in the Middle East, the Balkan region, the Caucasus, and Central Asia as well in the Caspian, Mediterranean and Black Sea zones. According to Davutoglu, Turkey should re-establish its role as a global player, not just a regional power. In some sense, Davotoglu viewed the collapse of the Soviet Union as a historic chance for Turkey to expand its influence in the Caucasus region and Central Asia.
And here enters Daesh…
Given the fact that ISIL has been created and fuelled by a number of states and private donors, which geopolitical players are resisting Russia’s attempts to eradicate terrorism in the region and preserve the sovereignty of Syria? Is Russia confronting a bunch of terrorists fed by Saudi and Qatari sheikhs or some well-organized multi-national organizations?
“As for Daesh, it is simply one ‘weapon’ used by the [US] Empire to destroy its opponents. There is no such thing as ‘terrorism’ by itself, it is always a weapon used by one (or several) state actors,” The Saker explained.
“The sheikhs you mention are just pawns in the hands of the ‘deep state’ which runs the US Anglo-Zionist ‘Empire’ and they themselves only have a local influence. Thus, the Saudis or the Qatari are major players in Syria, but already at the Middle-Eastern level they are far less powerful than, say, the Turks or the Israelis. And while they can act as ‘private donors’ and sponsors of this or that faction of Daesh/al-Qaeda, they can only do that as long as the Americans tolerate that. One could say that the local sheikhs are influential or even powerful puppets, but they still remain fundamentally puppets,” the US military analyst told Sputnik.
However, he claims, this is only the tip of the iceberg; the situation in general is far more serious.
“What is taking place today is a world war between, on one hand, the so-called ‘West’ (the US Empire) and what I call the ‘Resistance’ i.e., Russia, China, the BRICS, the SCO countries, Latin America, etc. What is at stake here is the future of our planet: it will either be ruled by a single world Hegemon or it will be organized as a multi-polar world. The events in the Middle East are just one ‘front’ in this worldwide war, and the war in Syria just one “battle” in the Middle Eastern ‘front’,” The Saker concluded.
by Ekaterina Blinova
fab………congrats for getting on sputnik
Saker is on Sputnik. That means you are being recognized as prominent analyst. I hope to see you on RT one day.
P.S. Why webmaster didn’t post link to the source of this article?
Thanks for the suggestion will do so now
Very good summary of what’s going on. The next step would be to speculate on Russia’s options in this war. Does Russia has a chance?
“Conflicts in Caucasus – Xinjiang China. Another type of proxy wars by the US and the West in an effort to destabilize the two major opponents in the global arena: Russia and China. Turkey exploits also this situation to expand its influence in regions far from the Turkish territory, using the advantage of the related Turkic minorities. Russia has another reason to see Turkey as a threat, despite the common economic interests between the two countries.”
http://bit.ly/1lPIFJj
vey good link, cheers
Very informative interview that covers a lot of important ground in an easy to digest and short format. Tying turkey’s provocation into the wider group geostrategic war the ZPC/NWO is waging against not just Russian, but all the resisting states like this, is an important and necessary approach which unfortunately too few analysts do. Also is getting the term anglozionist out there past the zionist censors is also an important step in identifying the role of Israel/zionists operating, hidden, in the background. Congrats Saker on a job very well done and cheers to Sputnik for publishing this interview.
I did not see a link to the article, so it is:
Is Turkey Waging War on Russia in Crimea, the Caucasus, and Central Asia?
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151201/1031060730/turkey-war-russia-crimea-caucasus-central-asia-daesh.html#ixzz3t5cGpIDu
Everybody use the link to increase the viewing numbers of it at Sputnik. This could help get the interview a more prominent showing there which will make the info much more available.
I wonder when this interview took place. I don’t see it on Spudnik International’s front page.
Anyway, it’s a good overview. But I’m also interested in an even larger big picture. On the open thread some commenters also seem to feel this need. Several mentioned sending prayers, thoughts and suggestions that the higher-ups might even read.
I’ve been thinking about the Saker headliner to the blog: a large saker falcon overlooking a valley in which I imagine a vineyard. The title thought is: “Stop the Empire’s War on Russia.”
A good goal to be sure but how do we vineyard sakers do that? Prayers? Thoughts? Analyses of our own? Carrying on a love-fest among ourselves?
I notice the contrast between a saker bird of prey which feeds on rodents and smaller fowl. This is nature in her killing mode which has been mitigated and honed for over hundreds of thousands of years.
Then I think about a vineyard of olives, grapes, berries and other fruit. In the Song of Songs a vineyard is woven into the human expression of love and sex.
So the masthead here is a play between violence and love-sex. This is what interests me. The way I read ancient texts, gene studies, anthropology and archeology is that our species “suddenly” appeared on the scene some 100,000 years ago in full bloom as lovers in the garden-vineyard of Africa.
I don’t go into who created us, star people, spirits, gods, etc. I start with us as we appeared on this planet.
From all the evidence I can gather and from my own intuition I sense that we were meant to be communal lovers which the vineyard meme illustrates. On the other hand, we were placed in a nature setting which includes violence.
It’s the difference that makes a difference. Our species is different, especially womam’s sexuality and physical appearance. Our protection is in being true to ourselves.
Then came the Fall of Man, literally jealous incipient patriarchs who acquired their power through the blood desecration of killing, first animals and then men; and always killing natural womam values and culture.
Here’s where the eyes glaze over and the mind mushes from millenia of patrix brainwashing propaganda.
We are a mix of saker killers and vineyard lovers. Bene distinguere, bene discere we used to say in Latin: distinguish well and learn well.
War is a patriarchal killing project that we are sometimes forced into. We have to fight evil but the trick is to remain lovers in the process.
I am constantly torn between these two poles in an apparent contradiction. But it is only apparent, not real.
And here comes the sticking point where all of us get hung up. If we are going to stop the Empire’s War on Russia, we have to know what to do and how to do it. The way I read the world we are woefully ignorant due to patriarchal conditioning of men and women.
Vice has been turned into virtue, the world is upside down in our thinking. The Empire gets its energy from the masses of people, not just the elites but including them. We are blindsided and tricked so that we are doing the very things that empowers the Empire.
I’ve said several times here in the vineyard what they are but no one that I know of wants to hear about it so I won’t waste time by repeating it. I just want to state for the record the general facts of the case, as I see it. The long and short of it is that we are hypocrites en masse and that we will never stop the Empire unless we change our opus operatum and modus operandi.
I hear the Saker returns tomorrow. That is good news but there is a lot of bad news to contend with, the major being our pride and ignorance, and the minor being the ongoing war events and their analyses.
Re “I wonder when this interview took place”, above the article in Sputnik it says:
18:26 01.12.2015 (updated 18:27 01.12.2015)
Hello Dennis,
I really liked your comment..because I always make the same questions to my self. I have/am doing little things to get out of that river that runs over all the humanity and takes it’s soul or spirit or whatever you want to call it. We see a lot of people to be aware of what is going on…I could even say that 80% of the population knows what is taking place in a larger picture and We just can’t stop them from turning the whole world into chaos. (Chaos was a God in ancient mythology) I have seen how in many countries that have taken civil rights and work rights the people have gone in masses on street protests or sit downs in front of the government buildings and just has not worked…the policies will be applied no matter the whole population is against it. So action has taken place and it did not work. Even the pope speaks out, just see what he said on his way back to Rome from Africa:
The Pope criticized the “Interest net” that is behind the wars, in his opinion caused by “money or power,” while stressing that “wars are not of God.”
“Wars come from ambition. Not talking about just those made to defend an unjust aggression. Wars are an industry, “the pope said during the flight that brought him back from Africa reported” La Stampa “.
“In the history we have seen many times that a country with bills that go wrong decides to wage war in order to keep his economy and power afloat. The war is a business, “said Francis.
“There is a whole network of interests which is after money or power. For years We have attended a World War by chapters and it’s episodes are becoming larger and dangerous, “he said.
He said that, from his point of view, “the war is a sin that destroys humanity, are the cause of abuse and human trafficking.”
“They should stop. At the United Nations, I’ve said it twice, both in New York and Kenya, that our work is not a declamatory nominalism”said
So yes it is urgent to take action because the questions remains…the people has the power and only the people can save the people. But are we going to be able to leave our hypocrisy and in the name of all the peoples interest put an end to this endless aggression to our love nature? When the article mentions Brics and Latin America…I would say that the only friend that Russia has so far is VEnezuela and Bolivia…the rest are in serious dangerous, politically and economically talking. Argentina was just sold to the empire, Brasil has it hadns tied…Dilma faces a risky crisis…so Rusia maybe have to fight this alone….by the way would like to contact you…let me know how.
Thank you
@ CANEK
Your post was most informative. I was not aware of Pope Francis’ statements. I am a former Catholic priest and monk, amazed at his probing ever nearer the evil heart, putting his life in mortal danger.
I don’t know what others do; it’s really none of my business. But I know what I can do which is anti-cultural and politically incorrect in the extreme. I like this vineyard because of the high quality thought and motivation. But as I implied in my own post, we haven’t even touched the deep structural dynamics that drive the Empire. Until we do we will never “stop the Empire’s War on Russia.”
You can contact me if you wish by going to thelovegovernment.com and scrolling down to the bottom of the front page where my contact email is listed.
I would not rush to positive judgement regarding the Pope. He may be talking the right way on this occasion. But on other occasions I have noted that he implicitly supports the globalist agenda. And then we know that the catholic church is more of a political and economic entity than a truly spiritual organization.
As the conflict increases in intensity it seems to me- and more and more so-, to be an essential battle for the fate of this present “civilization” ( I don’t think we are civilized yet at all). So for me the reason why so many people are involved , even deeply mentally, emotionally, in this ongoing conflict on this website and others is because it is not a battle of Russia versus the West, a battle She, Russia, mostly has to face alone, but an essential battle against falsehood and darkness that has engulfed the West over the centuries. More it is a battle against darkness wherever , East South West North, of global proportions. The crookedness that is dominating the world has to be slain. This present cycle has to end . It is a spiritual battle. Our survival depends on redefining a our relationship with the Earth, with we the people and with all the Earth’s other inhabitants, who have as much right to be, to live as we have, with the Cosmos, a relationship that is based on Light and Truth which leads to Love. Therefore I can only try to be as truthful as I can with myself, with others with all living things, with Life. The path to follow is the path to Truth. The Truth, the Vast
ps it would be interesting to know how for instance this website has swelled in visitors since the beginning of the Ukrainian conflict. I never read newspapers or magazines for 40 years, never watched TV ( never did) or listened to radio
ps 2. Bravo Saker
As usual, Saker nailed it. We’ve been at war for two decades and it’s been getting stronger every year.
After the fall of SSSR Russia was so weak for well over a decade, actually pushing two decades, that she had no choice but to stand and take it. Under VVP she has quietly been rebuilding her strength, significantly. VVP is not confrontational, he seems to have endless patience but he is also in my opinion the premier statesman of the era and as such he is dangerous to an extreme to The West.
It remains to be seen what the end game will be but at this time VVP has shown a penchant for doing the unexpected at the unexpected time and unexpected place, witness the ‘Polite young men in green’ who stormed ashore at Kerch and Feodosya, the spanner he tossed in the plans Turkey/US/EU/NATO had for Syria and the clear demonstration of current Russian strength with the little and ignored river fleet tossed a bunch of highly accurate cruise missiles from the Caspian to Syria.
It is a fact that US/EU/NATO had not a clue until the landing ships from Novorossisk grounded on the beaches just north of Kerch, forever destroying their plans of taking Krimea and Sevastopol. It is a fact that the river fleet in Caspian can easily get a bit closer to EU using the rivers and canals. While the general consensus of opinion is EU politicians seem to have a special brand of idiocy I would be willing to bet that some bright light in Bundeswehr has showed Mutti a map with those winding blue lines on it, pulled out calipers and made mention that EU, almost all of it, is in range of the same cruise missiles fired from the Caspian to Syria if Russia so desires. There is no known defense against a Kalibr cruise missile at this time.
Will any of this make a difference, even tossing in the obvious modernization and strengthening of the Russian Armed Forces. I don’t know. Time will tell.
Good point about the rivers leading to the Caspian allow the Caspian Fleet to get closer to the EU. However, firing Kalibr cruise missiles from the ships was done only not to violate a particular treaty between the US and Russia – which in case of an actual war between Russia and the West would be a totally moot point: in such a war Russia would simply use ground-based cruise missiles!
http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/dugin-our-goal-is-liberation-of-turkey.html
discusses Armenia, Azerbaijan which is maybe having second thoughts about being closer to Atlanticist alliance……i’m just wondering what are the road rail links Russia and Iran through that region, all hunky dory, military, commerce can easily flow?Hmm
also caspian fleet yesterday were having exercises, shake downs etc…..could be leading to more action, perhaps in support of kurds or YPG?
Probably no problems with Iranian communications through there. The Azerbaijani want decent relations with Iran I believe. And then there is the Caspian itself. They can ship anything between Russia and Iran that way if need be.
No the USA INc is Turkey is a vassal.
RR
This is one step up from tabloid propaganda due only to more eloquent writing.
Same old ‘expansionist Russia is trying to restore the Soviet Union’ blather, dressed up a little:
The Czar vs. the Sultan
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/25/the-czar-vs-the-sultan-turkey-russia-putin-erdogan-syria-jet-shootdown/
Question: A complete blockage would be a declaration of war but what would happen if Erdogan&Son cause difficulties and slowdowns in Russian ships transiting the Bosphorus?
According to news articles they already are: http://rbth.com/international/2015/12/01/pres-digest-ankara-obstructing-pasage-of-rusian-ships-in-black-sea_546415
When I got to the part about Tatari and being cracked down on by Russia I stopped reading. Tatari are just as livid as everyone else in Krimu and Sevastopol, seething with anger at their much hated mejilis and very happy to see them leave last early summer, taking some rather unsavory gentlemen with them who were masquerading as Tatar. The icing on the cake was the mejilis participating in the destruction of the electric power feeds to Krimea and then having the gall to urge the Tatari to resist and agitate against Russia and Krim Government while at the same time participating enthusiastically with the blockade of commerce to and from Krimu to mainland Ukes which of course has had a major negative effect on Tatari businesses.
Perhaps it would have been enlightening to the young woman who wrote the linked article to actually go to Bachti Sarai and the surrounding towns and villages and actually talk to the local Tatari but I suppose it was just easier to pick and choose available ‘news’ articles that fit her ideas and thoughts.
Bosporus? No problems there at the moment from what we hear, rumors and wishful thinking aside. What will be tomorrow? Haven’t a clue and since VVP and I don’t converse I have no idea what he might do if the channel is closed down.
I hear you on the Tatars in Crimea -I am no expert on Tatars but the lie to that article is the 96% popular Crimea referendum vote with a purported further 2% simply questioning the legal process but not against rejoining Russia.
I am indeed surprised that western MSM didn’t consult the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights -all one of them- and the MH17 lead investigator ‘Couch-Potato’ Eliot Higgins, for ‘expert’ advice.
I too, sadly, don’t converse with VVP nor, unlike handmaiden-to-the-barbarian US Hegemon Western MSM, do I know his every thought, but Putin and his advisors are shrewd enough not to fall into any Hegemon traps.
In the event of Bosphorus difficulties there are plenty of soft tool ‘persuaders’ available, such as threatened closure of Russian airspace to foreign carriers and defaulting on foreign debt etc.
Auslander , I posted yesterday re Mejlis intentions to do naval blockade re Kerch etc……..in your last sitrep
hope they get ambushed.Keeep us up to date!
A little victory on financial front.
(Yandex translation) IMF revolt against American dictatorship, about which so long spoke of the Bolsheviks (and a few times we wrote), it happened. Yesterday at the same time, several developments have occurred, which prove that the old lady Lagarde was able to push its line on strengthening the independence of the IMF and fail all attempts of the American command in the Fund.
First, yesterday the representatives of the Kiev regime was forced to admit that the end of the year they will not receive any tranches of loans from the IMF. Although certain groups in the U.S. it’s quite strongly lobbied. Kiev, of course, called it “technical difficulties”, but the strategy is “not to give under any pretext” was obvious for the last few months.
Secondly, any change to the Charter of the IMF for the sake of Ukraine has not occurred and is not expected. What also was obvious to the people, little versed in this whole financial architecture. The only change in the IMF articles of agreement, which may occur in the near future is the review of the share of the USA in the authorized capital of the Fund towards the reduction (and, consequently, reduce the influence of this country on the policy of the Fund).
Well and, thirdly, most importantly – the IMF, in spite of all U.S. efforts to counter this have included the Chinese yuan in the list of reserve currencies (SDR).
http://politikus.ru/events/64441-mvf-podnyal-bunt-ukraina-poluchit-shish-yuan-stal-rezervnoy-valyutoy.html
“I have no information showing any links, but what is clear is that Turkey is waging its own mini-war of influence against Russia, not only in Crimea, but also in the Caucasus and Central Asia,” The Saker told Sputnik, commenting on the issue.”
They they pull off the coup too? Turkey would have to be in cahoots with USA they would not allow them to do anything if they thought it would imperil their own imperial designs.
Oh here it is…..“What is taking place today is a world war between, on one hand, the so-called ‘West’ (the US Empire) and what I call the ‘Resistance’ i.e., Russia, China, the BRICS, the SCO countries, Latin America, etc. What is at stake here is the future of our planet: it will either be ruled by a single world Hegemon or it will be organized as a multi-polar world. The events in the Middle East are just one ‘front’ in this worldwide war, and the war in Syria just one “battle” in the Middle Eastern ‘front’,” The Saker concluded. getting closer…must be located in this historically specific moment of global capitalism.
RR
RR, Latin America is being returned to its slave status as Uncle Satan’s ‘backyard’. Argentina has voted in a billionaire fascist parasite from a family that grew rich under the military dictatorship. Just the sort of scum that Mordor-on-the-Potomac prefers. He promises ‘Free Market’ class vengeance and sadism, and to lead the attack on Venezuela. And Brazil is teetering, being targeted by the US strong dollar economic warfare policy. Once again ‘democracy’ under market capitalism, with the MSM entirely controlled by the Right and Mordor inserting interfering Western NGO subversives and spending billions to support the Right only in politics (why countries allow this arrogant interference by the most morally corrupt entity in human history is beyond me)has proven a suicide pact where the parasites always return to smash any social progress and decency built up in the face of vicious Western opposition. And they could do it in Russia, too.
Saker’s interview with Sputnik: Yes, the death cults unite : Fascism in Ukraine, Daesh/Islamic fundamentalism and the Western Industrial/military/financial/entertainment complex into an effort which is anti-life. Your analysis is spot on–one can survive a stab in the back done rather ineptly but if one walks into a trap with naivete, there will be no mercy shown.
Russia: Army deserter hid in woods for 11 years
The 30-year-old, who hasn’t been named, was wanted by police after disappearing from his post on the Kamchatka peninsula in 2004, a year after being conscripted, the Tass news agency reports. He was subsequently declared dead after family members “identified” his body in the months after he deserted, and the case was closed. But officers finally caught up with him, alive and living in a forest, after residents of a local village called them about a “suspicious inhabitant” who had settled nearby, the NTV channel says.
“The man told police he had built a small house from old construction materials near the city of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky,” a police spokeswoman tells Tass. “He was collecting berries and mushrooms and scrap metal, and worked at a swine farm and went fishing to earn his living.”
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-34966702
Gee I thought only US seals with degrees and years of training could do such things…
He ran out of trees to count?
Mr. Saker:
An excellent interview and analysis.
The Russian and American people need to hear this. The war is on.
Analyse the issues, and join the Resistance to Zionist American Global imperialism.
Saker’s conclusion, ” What is at stake here is the future of our planet: it will either be ruled by a single world Hegemon or it will be organized as a multi-polar world. The events in the Middle East are just one ‘front’ in this worldwide war, and the war in Syria just one “battle” in the Middle Eastern ‘front’,” is clear. There is no way worming around it.
Some media reports are that Turkish authorities are impeding Russian commercial vessels from
passing through the Dardanelles. That action, even without the shooting down of the Russian bomber, is hair close to an outright Declaration of War.
The Russian people, as they were in 1914, and 1941, are faced with extreme political, economic, and military pressures. The Crimea and Novorossiya are under siege. The enemy is landing troops 30 minutes from St Petersburg. The Zionist American propaganda blitz is highly financed and organized, and unrelenting. And a single Russian Air Corps, with slender supply lines, is confronting overwhelming power that would impress King Leonidas.
French political leader, Marine Le Pen, has made a fine speech. In her speech she referred favorably to Russia. Within Europe, resistance to Zionist American control is growing. There is hope. Russia, with its fine leadership, may yet prevail. It may even be joined by a growing list of allies.
We in America and elsewhere must not only cheer from the sidelines.
For the Democratic Republics!
As a humorous aside: Sputnik hasn’t interviewed the writter of the moon of Alabamal blog, and instead interviews Saker. Poor Bernhard… ;D
I bet Putin’s heard of Saker by now.
“I bet Putin’s heard of Saker by now.”
And of you, Ann :-)
My wildest dream….
US deploys special forces to boost fight against ISIS, poised to carry out unilateral ops into Syria
https://www.rt.com/usa/324135-syria-us-isis-force/
No doubt these special forces will be attacking Syrian forces, or those aligned with Syrians, and not the ZPC/NWO daesh proxies.
I’m worried about that too. I can easily see that as a strong possibility.
Then Russia should ‘accidentally’ kill any who attack the Syrian Army or its allies, and to Hell with the consequences. Otherwise the vermin, whose specialty is the ‘night-time raid’ to kill civilians in Afghanistan, will carve out a safe zone for Daash inside Syria. They will be in Syria illegally, so International Law is on Syria’s side.
I agree,it should be, “ooops,my bad. They were there fighting on the terrorist side. So we thought they were terrorists too”.
With the UK parliament set to vote once again tomorrow on whether to begin dropping bombs on Syria (without the express permission of the Syrian government) the stage is now set to further ramp up the conflict in Syria.
Whereas they failed to get the same vote passed in 2013 they are now using peoples fears generated by the Friday the 13th Paris attacks to get their citizens on board behind the move by dressing it up as “fighting ISIS”. If these duplicitous bas*ards were really intent on stopping ISIS all they need do is cut off supplies and funding to ISIS which they themselves and their allies do.
No, their sole intention in Syria is and has always been to oust president Assad and to destroy Syria as a functioning state same as they did to Libya and to Iraq before that. Once again the usual suspects are lying their populations into war.
Once they are in Syria you would soon hear them changing their story to one of ” Assad is the main problem as he is the one attracting ISIS and the other terrorists to Syria so in order to get rid of them we first have to get rid of Assad”, I will bet you my last penny. All the vultures are gathering for the big push. Germany has already signed on and pledged some 1,200 troops to “support” its neighbour France in Syria, the British are voting on it on Wednesday and very likely they would join too, people being too stupid to think for themselves, plus God knows which other European nations are already on board.
There is a very real danger the duplicitous Turks will attempt to close the Bosphorous straits to Russian vessels when everything kicks off, trying to deny them access to the Mediterranean. Russia will have to watch out for this. They are hell bent on going ahead with their regime change and are willing to start WWIII for it. There was a story carried today, I forget which publication, that says there are two Turkish submarines shadowing the Moscva cruiser off the coast of Syria,
coupled with Turkey moving tanks and electronic warfare equipment to its border with Syria, NATO building up its presence in the Mediterranean, I expect things to kick off pretty soon.
I think the evil scum will probably try to launch attacks on Russia on two fronts simultaneously, in Ukraine and in Syria.
Well, the question is why Purin is even allowing other countries to get the opportunity to pretend they will be bombing Daesh? Why did he agree to the signing of this UNSC declaration inviting the West into Syria? And all of this without the agreement of the Syrian govt. Is Putin really a benevolent dictator and a true leader of the resistence? Or is he just fighting for the proper place of the Russian jooish oligarchs within the NWO which he will help usher in by means of WW3?
I suppose one could characterize the War on Terror as a global Potlatch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potlatch, By participating, Putin is taking his Western partners at their word. By the way, it was not uncommon for these types of feast to devolve into unbridled violence. I also think that Clausewitz wrote about (soon to be) warring parties locked into a stage of mutual observation. The next time you watch Fox News and see Oliver North talking about Islamic State, be advised that he is really thinking about the adversary that he dare not mention.
Or is he just fighting for the proper place of the Russian jooish oligarchs within the NWO which he will help usher in by means of WW3?
It’s true that his relationship to Russian Jewish oligarchs is disconcerting, but perhaps a necessary evil in the greater scheme as long as they understand who’s the real boss; the Russian people, represented by their leader.
My thought is that if he were fighting for the interests of those oligarchs, he wouldn’t have formed an alliance with the Syrian Government, Iran and Hezbollah.
The U.S. is already deeply involved in Syria anyway so isn’t it better to rein in fast and loose hegemon aggression with the provisions of the UN Charter that the U.S. is held to as a signatory? In other words, counter a proxy NATO war with U.N. restraint.
I’m trying to think of how all these players: U.S., U.K., Germany, France, Turkey can play nice with Russia and its allies in the mess that is Syria right now without setting down UNSC conditions. If these other countries enter Syria under the guise of fighting ISIS and then change the rules that would be aggression on a sovereign state and maybe even Russia and its allies. So what other alternative is there for Putin? Russia, Iran and Hezbollah are the only parties that were invited by Syria to help in the fight against a terrorist coup. Therefore anyone else getting in on it should understand that they are there for one specific purpose; to get rid of ISIS and not for regime change or hegemon interests.
I agree with you,they are up to no good at all. Its interesting how the Germans and the British are wanting to get involved in that. As the German opposition said the other day ” is Germany trying to get attacked by ISIS”. Its not a “coincidence” that the countries that have had the terror attacks are the one’s that have been involved in the war. If Britain and Germany think by getting involved they will prevent attacks on themselves they are “crazier than a loon”.
Its a huge error on Syria,Iran’s and Russia’s part to let any country operate in Syria without the Syrian governments permission. While they might not be able to stop them. They should at least try to. And make it a point to announce to the World that those countries are violating international law and the UN Charter by their actions. But instead,they seem to be just ignoring those violations. And doing that may come back to “bite them in the a..” some day soon.When bullies are allowed to violate international law over and over. It becomes a “right” for them. And the World comes to accept it as a normal occurrence.And that is totally bad news.
Good point. By not saying anything, Syria gives its assent and itself breaks the law. When ISIS is cleaned up, then Syria can tell countries to leave but it will be too late. If they do it, Syria would have to give a reason and the only honest one is that certain countries are the real terrorists which would just incense them.
The Procedure of the UN Security Council
Chapter 7: DECISIONS AND DOCUMENTS
Section 12: Communications
Syria challenges Article 51 claims of Australia, Canada, France, the UK and the US
The Security Council has rarely addressed the question of whether a specific action reported to it pursuant to Article 51 of the Charter in fact qualifies as “self-defence”. And in recent years, it has been unusual for one Member State formally to dispute the declaration by another Member State that it has been acting in self-defence under Article 51.
However, by a letter dated 17 September 2015 (S/2015/719), the representative of Syria challenged the separate declarations by Australia (S/2015/693), France,* and the United Kingdom (S/2015/688) that the military measures they were carrying out in Syrian territory were justified under Article 51. In Syria’s view, those States were invoking “a distorted reading of the intention of Article 51”, a reading that was also “blatantly inconsistent” with Council resolutions 2170 (2014), 2178 (2014) and 2199 (2015), “all of which emphasize that States must respect the unity, sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Syrian Arab Republic”. In a second letter, dated 21 September 2015 (S/2015/727), the representative of Syria again criticized Australia, France and the United Kingdom, and also Canada and the United States,** for invoking Article 51 without having consulted with the Syrian Government.
http://www.scprocedure.org/#!chapter-7-section-12d/c4w1
That is probably correct, sadly. The destruction of Syria is the goal and the West won’t be deterred. The “let’s go fight ISIS” excuse is perfec, as if ISIS were a local product, not a mercenary force.
Russia will be pushed out, or comly with Western schemes in Syria, or be forced to fight a war against US/NATO away from its borders, which Russia cannot be expected to do.
The ultimate goal is the desintegration of Russia after it resubmits wholly to the Empire.
A few thoughts..
1) The RMB inclusion in the SDR, only a small percentage though. Is this just an enticement to try and draw China away from Russia? US voted for RMB to be added to SDR which seems strange.
2) A Turkish attack on Syria. The outcome would depend on electronic warfare capabilities.
The small force of Russian planes in Syria would wreak havoc on any Turkish invasion if Russia can shut down Turk comm’s without being shut down themselves.
How resistant to NATO jamming is Russia?
regarding 1.) I doubt it. USA fought hard to avoid this. In the end it was the Europeans that accommodated the RMB/Yuan. USA hardly gave up any % in the SDR basket.
Turkey is making a big mistake, here. It is actually the same error Turkey made exactly one hundred years ago, when it entered World War I on the side of Germany. To quote the (modern) myth of the Klingon race:
«Long ago, a storm was heading for the city of Quin’lat. Everyone took protection within the walls except one man who remained outside. Kahless went to him and asked what he was doing. “I am not afraid,” the man said. “I will not hide my face behind stone and mortar. I will stand before the wind and make it respect me.” Kahless honored his choice and went back inside. The next day, the storm came, and the man was killed. Kahless replied, “The wind does not respect a fool”»
(Star Trek TNG, Episode “Rightful Heir”)
So now Turkey is attempting to prevent Russians ships through the Bosphorus Straits? Turkey can only do this if at war. Is Turkey effectively now at war with Russia?
Then I have to ask the question: has WW3 started with the Turks (at US direction) shooting down a Russian bomber? Is this like the start of WW2 with the initial German thrust into Poland followed by the standoff between the French/British and the Germans?
My view is that WW2 lurched forward then paused while all sides built up for the next phase forward into greater destructive intensity. In a previous post I said that the war in Syria seems to be similar to the Spanish Civil War where I was not clear that it was not the specific nature of those wars that I was comparing but that both were a phase of the emerging greater war to come.
Axis war drums are beating in the West. Syria and its allies are responding to each provocation by the US led axis by not retreating but by heroically increasing their resistance.
If the US is able to trigger a war between Russia and Turkey it should be obvious that it will not be contained but will expand, probably after a pause. Ukraine will see its chance (for more folly) and would jump in. The CIA narratives in the western MSM will stroke fear and hatred of Russia, Assad, and Iran, then we’re set for a larger war. I think we are in great danger – more than I have felt since the worst of the Cold War.
« Is this like the start of WW2 with the initial German thrust into Poland followed by the standoff between the French/British and the Germans? »
The “initial German thrust” was preceded by weeks of numerous border violations on both sides, with several dozens killed on either side, by Polish flak firing at civilian Lufthansa airliners on their way to Königsberg, by mobs of Polish arsonists and murderers ravaging – at whose instigation?! – German farms on land that F/UK/US had decided to sever from Germany and annex to their monstrous multiethnic Frankenstein Poland, which was intentionally crafted, along with Frankenstein Czechoslovakia, by the Anglozionist puppet masters, as one of the triggers of a new European war.
(When we say F/UK/US because it sounds good we always have to remember that F is just a junior “partner” or rather an auxiliary force that every now and then has to be slapped like a bitch so it doesn’t develop idées de grandeur and instead duely listens ot her master’s voice. But with Hollande, no slapping is required, I think.)
So the “initial German thrust” was by no means initial to the limited regional conflict that brought Germany and Soviet Russia, as intended, front to front. The only problem for F/UK/US was that, initially, GER and RUS had an agreement not to wage war on each other, thus precisely countering the clever Anglo plan.
What escalated this limited regional conflict to global dimensions was the decision by F/UK/US to extend the war to other “theaters” and bring in extra-European players such as Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Canada, hence the “world war” led by the “British World Empire” (Britisches Weltreich).
Fortunately for the Anglozionists, the Soviet leader was arrogant enough to think he could outsmart everyone else and conquer all of Europe, as shown by Viktor Suvorov and others. Easy to understand, even for the Stalin fanboys on this blog, through (a) Molotov’s visit to Germany in November of 1940 and (b) the massive Soviet military build-up in Central Europe.
As we know, his preposterous plan backfired badly. It was countered by operation Barbarossa, bringing utter horror and tragedy to both Germany and Russia, and utter bliss and joy to Albion and Uncle Sam, with France being a loser allowed to strut around like a victor.
The defeat of Germany was the defeat of Europe as evidenced by the history of the past 70 years of European impotence vis-à-vis Uncle Sam’s reckless imperialist and terrorist ingérence in Europe.
To get back to Syria, it’s the crisallization point of a world conflict that may get much, much hotter and engulf other “theaters”, such as parts of occupied Europe, where Uncle Sam has a significant stockpile of nuclear weapons, which in case of conflict must be primordial objects of Russian nuclear strikes.
Would it be inconceivable at this point that, for Uncle Sam, a war limited to certain well-known “theaters” would be just what it takes to maintain his predominant position? Would such a war have to be restricted to conventional warfare? Would our impotent European leaders be in a position to control the development of such a war?
Germany has been given the order to announce the dispatch of soldiers and Tornado fighter-bombers “against ISIS”, but they’ll be sent to Turkey instead. We can see that Uncle Sam sends into battle the very countries that Russia would like to have good relations with. Nifty, isn’t it?
Most of the morons in Berlin don’t understand what’s going on, and those who do are scared – as they should be. Now you’ll hear them weaseling around that the aircraft are not ready for service etc. As for the deployment of soldiers, had the draft not been abolished in early 2011 there’d be protests now. I cannot help but ackowledge the wisdom of Anglozionist long-term planning.
As our dear friend Mohamed would say: Merkel is very quiet these days. She is quiet as she understands the role Germany is slated to play. She is quiet as she understands her own role in having not only acquiesced to, but actively furthered Uncle Sam’s agenda. She is quiet as she understands the mockery in her laughable depiction as the “most powerful woman in the world”. She is quiet as she understands the Anglozionist remote highjack terror attack on the symbolical Germanwings airliner perpetrated on the signature date of 3/24/15 may have been only the beginning of the mayhem to come.
On a more positive note, if you understand French go listen to Maître Damien Viguier, ça vaut le coup. There’s a lot of good analysis, observations, legal point of views, including a bit about the American war on Europe starting at 21:15, but I recommend that interview in its entirety of 48 minutes.
Interview de Maître Damien Viguier à la télévision syrienne
“As we know, his preposterous plan backfired badly. It was countered by operation Barbarossa”
I have the war diary of Col-Gen Franz Halder, Chief of the German General Staff, and he notes in the weeks before Barbarossa the pointedly non- threatening Soviet force posture, and the evident Soviet desire to avoid war. Removed inappropriate statement here. Please note its not necessary to attack other commenters to get your idea across … mod-hs
We stare mesmerized at the red cape of aggression and never see the planning hand of the vulnerable matador.
Hard to see how a world of multipolar nations is of any use to its citizens if the monetary, economic & trade decisions are all made by mega corps controlled by the 80 richest people in the world. Or perhaps by the IMF, WTO & World Bank, also controlled by them. I could get really excited about the possibility of a multipolar world if a few sizeable nations cut themselves free from the Fed, the IMF, and WTO– if they began to issue and control their own currency, manage their own bilateral trade decisions, make their own budget decisions, issue their own credits instead of borrowing the worthless US dollar.
The citizens of such an entity would have the potential to control the govt, and to prevent the unlimited inheritance and other means of amassing such great wealth that a few oligarchs control the govt. And not just the govt; also the media, the largest industries, the foundations, think tanks, principal academic appointments, and grants to academia. Did I leave anything out? Oh, yes, through the buying of Congress much legislation is bought & paid for– and through buying the Presidency all of the presidential appointments including of the military & intelligence tools. Think what it would mean to regain control of our govt.
I’m waiting to see a single indication that India or Russia is moving towards monetary or trade independence. China has actually HAD monetary independence: That’s one of the principal reasons she grew so quickly. But she has recently privatized large public holdings, has begun to borrow from the West, and has just further incorporated herself into the rotten IMF system which bleeds monetary sovereignty from all nations.
So where should we look to find strong nations which still preserve govt control of their central banks? Of course there WAS Iraq, and Libya and Syria. I guess maybe Iran, although she just applied for membership in the WTO. In order to get the lower-tariff benefits, Iran must submit to a gargantuan list of regulations removing entire areas from the control of Iranians.
Democracy hasn’t failed us; we’ve failed it. Time to take it back. Last chance to do it without considerable mortality.
Excellent comment.
I’ll second that. This is one of those ideas that is mostly ignored, even here because it hits where it hurts too many people.
I’m sure Putin and his people are more aware of it than any of us…this is just casting doubts before readers.
As if Russia could change the monetary system before they get independent militarily and politically.
they are doing all the right things in the right order. Sanctions are bad enough..how can you people imagine that more change could take place in your time frame…ridiculous.
You may disagree or consider it unfair, but many of us have grave doubts about the Russian/Soviet leadership’s desires over the last 35 years. Basically, they wanted convergence with the West. Fine, the West creates an EU and becomes Soviet-like, and the USSR/Russia become market capitalist, but with a powerful bureaucracy and military and even oligarchy. One big happy family. But not very free or morally inspiring.
It didn’t work out for the Soviets for various reasons, and it hasn’t really worked out for Russia. So now there is a change of plans to resist the West, but is hard as the Russian elite love so much about the West, and they kept their entire economy, financial system, and most of their media and educational system in a Western mindset. As the Saker has said many times, Putin did not have majority support for a Eurasianist policy till recently, and maybe not even now.
In other words, many of us think that Russia is not doing a lot of things we want voluntarily, but because she is forced to. The Kremlin was happy or at least satisfied with the Party of Regions in the Ukraine and really is hoping to see it brought back under its new and bogus name and posturing. The Kremlin didn’t want to deliver the S-300s to Iran that had been contracted. Presumably, to be better friends with her partners in the West. For that matter, why did Russia support sanctions against Iran? And Moscow even pushed for a ceasefire or two that were rather harmful to Syria because she was on the march at the time. Again, to be friends with the West and Turkey. This isn’t crazy or anything, it is just that the priority has been trying to be friends with Europe at the expense of your friends or even long-term interests. Intervening in Syria could be argued to show that the previous policy has failed. That is debatable, but there is a real rah-rah side to pro-Russian blogs, and the other side of the coin should be considered. It could be argued that Russia’s goal in Syria till recently was negotiations, not a Syrian army victory. Again, Russia wants to show that it is useful to the West and thus needs to set at the great table of men behind the curtains.
And many analysts inside Russia feel that Putin could have done more on the economic front or in terms of fighting various internal enemies. He has done a very good job, but we should be realistic about the many problems inside Russia that haven’t been handled very well. For example, corruption. Most say it is just as bad of a problem today as ten years ago.
By the way, the sanctions are a gift to Russia, at least in terms of trying to become independent of the Western oligarchy.
I agree with a lot of what you argue. The schism inside Russia is a very big problem. Much of the Russian elite likes the West. They might not like all the “Western values” but they like to visit,trade,vacation,buy things,and in general “be accepted” in the West. That has divorced them from Russia’s national interests as a strong independent power.
If the US had offered Russia (and China) a seat at the “big boy’s table” I doubt there would be any crisis today. But what those countries “still” haven’t “fully” realized yet,is the US doesn’t “do” pardners. You are either a servant or you are nothing. Once the “leaderships” started to realize that, things started to change. But their elites still haven’t “got it yet”.
I read an article the other day on the Chinese wealthy buying up property in the US for billions of dollars. And the Chinese government just allowing that. I figure if we had a look inside the statistics inside Russia we’d see that the elite there is also still investing in the West. Even with everything going on today. Those governments still can’t or won’t get a handle on their own elite classes. That bodes extremely badly for the future.
If push comes to shove between those countries and the West every bit of that money will be lost. And how much can those countries put their trust in their citizens that put money in the West,being fully aware how much the West is trying to harm their countries.To me its treason on a monumental scale.And just simply goes unpunished.
What can be done to change that ,I don’t know. But if they don’t do something, then they can’t succeed with being independent.That I do know.
These pro-American elites in Russia and China are Fifth Columnists and cannot be trusted.
These parasites take their ill-gotten money, which was largely made off the backs of ordinary Rusisans/Chinese, and then they invest it in America or Europe because they desperately want to be accepted by as “honorary Americans or Europeans.”
Pathetic as it is disgusting.
Well there is a lot of truth to what you are saying.. A few people made a lot of money on the backs of others.. Instead of stopping corruption, it ran away.. And caused a lot of problems.. We saw the huge difference when Putin was pm and not president.. But the same guy who toed the line with the west now sings a different tune.. Maybe they just needed someone to show them the way. In this speech today Putin pointed out some of the problems.
Now even on this blog Russians have come and told us that we were wrong.. Because according to him, why should he give up anything, he wants what Europe has and he would sell out his soul to get it.. I bet there were a lot of people like that. The majority were neutral at the time and just wanted to go along with their lives.. And if not for Putin, Russia would not exist except for some bastardised version of it. But Putin gained time and now 90% of Russians recognize the west for what they are, only looking to loot Russia so they can live on comfort..
BUT things are changing.. Russia wants trade based on competition not force.. By that I mean unlike American crony capitalism, they want to do business which are mutually beneficial.. Not trade by pausing everyone else to give you an advantage and using threats and making up rules as you go along etc. American trade has turned into some weird mafia gang style business arrangement. There are enough examples of this to make everyone think hops its not their turn next.. You also did not mention how the US just uses force to make other countries to do its will.. Basically plundering.. You see Russia ever going the world over doing this? So you can not compare the 2. Which also means Russia can only offer a basis of lawful interaction.. If another country is corrupt, it is non of their business.. The US also ignores this until there is something of value the US needs at which point it unleashes its minions on them. So Ukraine was corrupt.. Russia left them alone but the US saw a chance.. That’s a HUGE difference which you seemed to have missed..
And I bet that guy who came here and told why he had to suffer.. I am pretty sure he has changed his mind.. a little suffering is good for the soul.. sometimes people should have no choice to bring about change.. Other wise we wont change. That change is happening..
I remember how they split up AT&T because it got so big.. Now all those much smaller companies are far larger than the original AT&T, nothing has changed except they have now come to hold the people hostage in the regions they serve. Imagine companies with market caps of 1/2 trillion..Higher than 90% of the countries of the world. Means there are dozens of companies just in the US who have more resources than the vast majority of countries. Crony capitalism has taken over the US. And the US is forcing other countries to follow its role model. World fascism.. By the 1%.. But the people don’t seem to be bothered.. Except by the 0.01% like us..
¨I’m waiting to see a single indication that India or Russia is moving towards monetary or trade independence.¨
The BRICS nations have established SWIFT alternatives, a foreign exchange reserve pool, a development bank, Eurasian security/cooperation organizations, economic trading blocks and high-speed rail linkages across pan-Asia that will link as well to Europe.
Links to the above available here: ¨How Quickly Will The Price Of Oil Climb With The Death Of The Petrodollar?¨
http://seekingalpha.com/article/3619996-how-quickly-will-the-price-of-oil-climb-with-the-death-of-the-petrodollar
That’s all good. But as far as I’m aware those or all in the beginning or just planning stages. So until they are actually finished or fully working it doesn’t help.
Each time I read analyses by Saker I am re-assured there are enough “others’ who both know and articulate truth to fully save the planet. American deep state manipulations are so insane as to beggar the attempts to give US reasons of value to assuage the shames of everything they do. The Saker balances out the losses by being published, respected, trusted.
Saker
I think a lot of persons are just awaking to the stark possibility that the Syrian Conflict has the real potential of triggering a World War.
Russia, Iran and Syria and all those who support them are on the right side of history.
For us who have been following this blog, the luxury of ignorance was never an option.
We know what we know. And what we know is that forces inspired by EVIL are determined to grind humanity into submission.
Whether they prevail or not will be determined on Syrian soil, and by the resolve displayed by
Those resisting them i.e. Russia, Iran Syria, Hezbollah…
If Syria falls humanity will pay a steep price!!!!!
These guys deserve a mention; the ‘Don’t Bomb Syria’ rallies; one took place last Saturday, one is happening tonight, and there’s another scheduled for tomorrow.
Incidentally; this is why if I hear one more time that Europe deserves to get terrorist attacks or deserves to get flooded by “refugees” because of NATO’s actions, blow-back, retribution, or whatever.. I swear to dog; I gonna blow a gasket! (And don’t tell me I didn’t warn you)
The People don’t want this. The People set the MPs phone lines on fire last time around when Cameron wanted to bomb Syria. The People marched against the war in Iraq, it was the biggest rally UK has ever seen, it was in vain as we all know, but it wasn’t because The People didn’t mobilize and tried to stop it.
The people who deserve to get bombed or buried alive under a pile of “desperate refugees” are the ones who are voting in favor of war, and that’s not the common folk.
Lastly; Europeans are not like the war-thirsty Americans: Yeah, let’s get Saddam! Yeah, let’s get Bin Laden! Yeah, let’s take Gaddafi out! Why?! Because we can! Let’s nuke the Russians before they nuke us! USA! USA!
Unlike the Americans, the majority of Europeans do not go merrily along with what their governments and their presstitues say, the fact that they keep getting lied to or out-right betrayed by their “leaders” (Greece NO vote being just one such example) doesn’t mean that they are complicit in their governments actions.
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Cameron vs. thousands: Will massive protests against Syria campaign prevail in UK politics?
“Thousands of people rallied outside Downing Street in London on Saturday to oppose the government’s call to begin airstrikes in Syria – a move which David Cameron will demand imminently [..]”
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/323897-cameron-thousands-protest-syria/
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Anti-war protesters outside Parliament [today] urge MPs “Don’t bomb Syria” 24 hours before crunch vote
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/anti-war-protesters-outside-parliament-6936180
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Veterans to join last-ditch protest to stop Britain bombing Syria
“Iraq and Afghanistan veterans will join anti-war activists at an emergency protest in London’s Parliament Square on Tuesday night ahead of Wednesday’s debate and vote on extending airstrikes from Iraq into Syria.
Speaking to RT, Ben Griffin, who served on operations in Iraq and helped to found anti-war group Veterans for Peace UK, said: “It is making me feel physically sick, listening to politicians telling us that it is vital for the UK to get involved in the ongoing slaughter in Syria.
“I have heard it all before and seen the outcomes first hand. No good will come from this [..]”
https://www.rt.com/uk/324125-stop-war-syria-protest/
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Thousands in London, Madrid protest military intervention in Syria
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/28/439535/London-Madrid-protests-Daesh-Syria–
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-TL2Q
Clearly marching achieves little to nothing. I wonder what would happen if tens of thousands of pedestrians including babies in prams, crips in wheelchairs, oldies with walkers and the like were to repeatedly (and slowly) cross strategic intersections in a lawful manner yet one that incrementally held up traffic until mass gridlock ensued.
Done repeatedly and determinedly I wonder could this have a similar effect to a general strike, which is what is really needed.
Frankly, what would be effective is that if those nations which do not have Syria’s permission to operate there had their planes shot down when they bombed.
I suppose we already know what the empire would say about a country’s right to defend it’s borders and air space in that case, but it wouldn’t matter after losing a few billion worth of military hardware, and possibly some pilots: they would be discouraged from waging aggressive war and supporting terrorism from proxies or themselves directly. Self defense works.
I 100% agree with you. And if they are “really” fed up with their leaders we have Donbass as an example. I mean the early stages,the crowds seizing the government buildings including the police stations. The facts are you are committed to change or your not. I remember all the “Don’t invade Iraq” rallies I saw (even went to). They were totally worthless. Unless people are willing to go “a step beyond to stop evil”,then stay at home. All you do with those worthless things is embarrass yourself. I can’t remember a single time that the elite were “committed” to a policy,that “peaceful” protests stopped it. That just isn’t the way the World works. It would be nice if it was. But its just not.
Having said that. I am curious about the referendum on Ukraine joining the EU partnership program taking place in the Netherlands. Polls are showing the majority might vote “No”. So what does that mean. Would a “No” vote mean the Netherlands government would be forced to oppose Ukraine being accepted. And does that mean they would be blocked from entry. Wouldn’t that be a “kick in the a..” to Poroshenko and the maidan crowd.
There were many protest rallies against the Vietnam war, and various political speeches, and US troops were fragging their officers and deserting. And the US pilled out of Vietnam — guess which one of those three above made the most difference. Now the US has gone to great lengths to have an all volunteer army, with mercenaries too, and wage war technically instead of with cannon fodder on the ground, so it’s more difficult now to stop the war machine.
American people are very much complacent, ground down, and propagandized, so it much more difficult to see them effectively protesting, much less taking over their government again. But if the US, or other NATO countries, start losing men and equipment in numbers from combat, that will make a difference, not just back home but from the military itself, and that’s why military self-defense is so effective, once the people in it become aware of it happening.
Yes,and the key to that was the “draft”. People “protesting” was one thing,mostly small protests. But once they changed the draft and you couldn’t get an exception by just going to college,that changed everything. You had the “middle classes” and masses of students protesting the war. That was the turning point,”you aren’t taking my son to your war” and “what,I gotta go,no way man”. The slogans kinda said it all “Hell no,we won’t go” and “One, two, three, four! We don’t want your ******* war!” and “Draft beer,not boys” are examples. The fragging and deserting helped. But really weren’t as widespread as legend has it. Unfortunately wars like most things are viewed from a personal level. A good example of that is the joke about, what’s the difference between a recession and a depression, “a recession is when your neighbor loses his job. And a depression,is when you lose your job”.
@Uncle B:
“But once they changed the draft and you couldn’t get an exception by just going to college [*], that changed everything. You had the “middle classes” and masses of students protesting the war [..]”
Damn straight, Uncle B!
The only reason why the ‘Vietnam War Protests’ got any traction at all was because it pissed off the “comfortable” middle-classes by getting their ‘precious’ sons drafted into a war [wars that would normally be assigned to the “peasantry,” otherwise known as: ‘the great unwashed masses’] they had no intentions in fighting, never mind sending their children to die for.
[*Additional] And collage used to be state-subsidized back then too… not like now where you need to take on the equivalent of a mortgage just to pay for your higher education…
-TL2Q
@ blue & Uncle B:
I totally agree with you both. I stopped believing that peaceful action can change anything years ago. Peaceful demonstrations had their very last chance to prove they work or not with the ‘Occupy Movement,’ look how that ended… in naught.
All I was trying to do with my previous post was to demonstrate that ordinary people do not support this intervention, nor they did support any of the others going all the way back to Iraq and even Afghanistan, and that was after all the MSM going on hyper-drive with 911. There were still plenty of people against it.
As on outsider living in Europe I can tell you, people over here never agree on domestic matters [this is due to lack of social cohesion and deep divisions among classes] but the one thing that seems to unite them and galvanize them is this message of ‘no to war.’
Mind you, the example of Dombass is not a suitable analog here.
First of all; the Novorossian people still have a fighting spirit, most westerners lost that decades ago. Second, I doubt the Dombass has a CCTV camera strapped to every lamp post; not being watched 24/7 gives you at the very least an element of surprise if you’re planning to take over a building. Third, most European countries got their guns taken away, with some exceptions like Switzerland for example, but most European people are totally disarmed, you’re not even allowed to buy ornamental swords [that includes a Klingon bat’leth, I kid you not] and even pepper-spray or maze are considered offensive weapons and therefore banned. Oh! And dog forbid if you attempt to buy a kitchen knife without proof of ID and some bank account attached to it.
In some places you’re not allowed to put security bars on your own windows because… it breaches planning regulations, or fire-exit regulations, or simply because they’re considered “unfriendly.”
You can’t arm yourself, you can’t secure your home, you can’t even sign-up to a martial arts class without applying for a legal permit first [again; I’m not kidding].
What are you allowed to have to defend yourself with?
…A phone to call the police, and it better be a “genuine” emergency or you might get fined for “wasting police time.”
A burglar alarm for you home, and again… it better not be directly linked to the police department because if it is and it’s a false alarm: you’ll get fined.
For personal protection you have what? What else!? More alarms! A panic alarm you can buy over the counter or a spray that develops a bright color over time, it’s supposedly unwashable for several hours, so you can spray-paint your assailant and the police can pick him up latter.
Now you can begin to see how point 1 and point 3 are intertwined. Big Brother systematically took the fighting spirit out of westerners, well, at least here in Europe, I hear the US government will take Texans’ guns out of their dead cold hands. So, not all of westerners. But the majority of them? Yes!
On top of everything else, you’re not supposed to organize a protest/march/rally, not without securing a permit first. Any large congregation without a Big Brother seal of approval, is considered a “disturbance,” “breach of peace,” or a public threat of some sort.
Just a few weeks ago the police busted an “unauthorized rave party,” dozens upon dozens of police and riot units were deployed, lots of people arrested… I, personally, would have arrested them for their appalling taste in “music,” but that’s hardly the point!
If that’s their reaction to a ‘rave’ gathering, imagine what their reaction would be if a bunch of political dissenters attempt to take over a building, like the good people of the Dombass did!
“Unless people are willing to go “a step beyond to stop evil,” then stay at home. All you do with those worthless things is embarrass yourself.”
Absolutely!
But going back to my original point… what I wanted to highlight is the fact that European people do not support intervention in Syria [nor they did the previous ones either], to assume they do just because they don’t go all Rambo on their governments’ a$$es, doesn’t mean they’re also to blame for the – intended or “unintended” consequences from such interventions.
-TL2Q
Very interesting reference to the book by Dr. Ahmet Davutoglu entitled “Strategic Depth.” But the geographic situation described is not what most people mean by “strategic depth”. Russia has strategic depth because (as Napoleon and Hitler found) it can retreat endlessly. The United States has strategic depth because its defense begins 5000 miles away from its own borders at the NATO line and the first island line in the Pacific. Israel does not have strategic depth because it could be overrun in a day. Germany does not have strategic depth because once the enemy reaches the Ruhr and Prussia, it’s all over. Germany does have the advantage of “central position” which means that it can shift its forces rapidly from front to front and keep enemy coalitions off balance
Turkey has a sort of “super central” position with the ability to face multiple fronts at the same time. This could be a great advantage but it is also potentially a major disadvantage.
Free background info on Davutoğlu
https://www.pagekicker.com/index.php/72000257.html
You didn’t plug your book. Dude, marketing 101. Pitch, pitch, pitch :)
Russian president is the peace maker, we all have had enough of the war mongering west governments who make up storys to justify their greed..
well done Russia, china..
Perhaps the title of this article should be changed to:
“Is Anerica Waging War on Russia in Crimea, the Caucasus, and Central Asia?”
I would wish that the American people could come to realise that they are being incessantly lied to about Putin and Russia in the American media which dutifully does the bidding of its corporatized federal government. Russia constantly makes the most fair, reasonable and logical proposals to America to settle issues between our countries in the most peaceable means possible, and Obama always throws those offerings back in Putin’s face with a sneer, a laugh and the kind of language usually reserved to street thugs. I’ve been a liberal Democrat all my life, but the degree of pure unadulterated hateful Russophobia in Democratic websites like The Democratic Underground is unprecedented in my nearly 70 years. The formerly rational side of the political spectrum has now been radicalized just like the Republicans and I cannot visit those websites without disgust and sadness at the inroads the neocons have made into the heart of even the wishy-washy left in my country. Putin has been doing a remarkable high wire act, trying to counter the West and stabilize the Middle East before the terrorism visits Russia in a major way (which is a primary goal of Washington). His best efforts may fail as America goes to any length to cut the wire from beneath his feet. American citizens do not understand any of this (they only know to reflexively hate Russia and its leaders), but the Europeans do, and it is to their shame that they continue to countenance it. They are foolishly being complicit in their own demise, as the Americans will take them down too with our ill-conceived foreign policies.
Very good comment. It is a high wire act. I sometimes wonder what made Putin undertake this risky action. It was all or nothing gamble. And Europeans (Hollande and even Merkel) do not break NATO ranks. Putin is completely isolated, though he has some support among European public. Not in America.
Czech public television has today made public a long interview with Asad where he openly speaks about Western Europe and USA supporting terrorism in Syria and Russian support in fight against the murders. The tv crew captured it in Damaskus view days ago.
English or other subtitles have not been published yet, but they probably will come soon:
http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ct24/svet/1628712-asad-pro-ct-rebelove-jsou-jako-zoldaci-vetsina-plni-zajmy-jinych
Asad mentioned that he can imagine Prague being the place where peace agreement might be signed. Geneva or Vienna are out of play. It’s a suprise that Czechs got active in these matters, it’s really strange.
Wait a minute the Rothschilds are pulling all the strings as usual.
The end game for them is one world government
We will all run to the “resistance” as the Saker calls the Brics as the empire implodes
Check out redefininggod.com he explains it much better
Redefininggod is a propaganda website of, for and by the banker criminal elite.
Their role is to support false eshatalogical/zionist narratives and confuse the zerohedge set… which they do quite nicely judging by your unthinking reaction.
I will take the mil intel background of the Saker over the random guy who runs Redefining God any day of the week. Even with all the documented Rockefeller connections to Mao, James Corbett should know better.
Ok, sure, but the Saker is Russian or at least Slavonic.
By the way – where is also the proof that redefininggod.com is a propaganda outlet of the bankers? (Would be more than happy to know)
Agreed … but are you saying the Rothschilds dont control the Russian Central Bank?
Better watch out when these sleazeballs are openly stating this is a good thing.
They probably also said ‘Good job, Benito!’ to that war-shortening move when Rome allied with Hitler.
TEHRAN (FNA)- France’s Francois Hollande “got it right” by partnering with Russia’s Vladimir Putin, and the US’ Barack Obama should see beyond his differences with Russia in order to destroy Daesh, according to the Washington Times.
France made the right choice by partnering with Russia in fighting Daesh, also known as ISIL, according to an editorial in the conservative Washington Times.
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940910001368
at the moment I only see a bit more than an intention by France, not sure how the practical details are working out, eg with Iraq/iran/Rus intelligence centre?
the price France had to pay was to record every bomb being dropped, i think it was declined, hence Britain and Germany specifically rejecting Russian participation.
OFF TOPIC
Over the past 18 months, Russia has taken in more than 1 million Ukrainian refugees like the Pyatkov family who have fled the destructive civil war between a West-oriented government in Kiev and Russian-backed rebels. The deluge is comparable to the wave of Syrians and others pouring into Europe – but it’s happened with very little publicity and even fewer apparent social strains.
A key reason for that is that most of the Ukrainians who’ve been streaming into Russia are Orthodox, Slavic Russian-speakers who tend toward a pro-Kremlin political viewpoint and who are welcomed, in theory at least, by President Vladimir Putin’s government.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2015/1201/Ukrainian-refugees-in-Russia-Did-Moscow-fumble-a-valuable-resource
Czech republik’s state TV made interview with Assad. Begining of program is in czech langauge but interview itself in english starts at 1:50 min.
http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ivysilani/10997918455-mimoradne-porady-ct24/215411034000172-rozhovor-s-basarem-asadem/
Here is picture from Czech satirical magazine in 1957!
http://www.sott.net/pic-of-day/284647
super links Huracan…is that Hurricane in Czech language ?
Interview also here: 2015 – Syria – Full Interview with Bashar al-Assad by Czech TV
At around 15:00, the interviewer asks a typical idiotic Western presstitute question, pertaining to what impression Western Freaky Presstitutes’ mendacious ramblings make on him:
» How do you take it personally, how do you live through it? «
And President Assad gives answers appropriately:
» Personally, it has no influence, for one reason, because nobody is taking the Western official [policy] seriously any more. How many reasons? First of all, they don’t have credibility. Second, they don’t have vision, they are so shallow. Third, they’re not independent, they’re controlled [by] Americans, at the end. So, they’re not Syria, they don’t exist on the [???], most of the Europeans. We look at the master, the master is the Americans. «
All in all, a great President and true Leader of his People, and a relatively benign journalist acting rather decently, within the straightjacket of Western Mendacity, bien entendu.
If you want to see a less benign individual, here’s President Assad in April 2015 on France 2 TV (in English): President Assad’s interview with France 2
Cartoon – American Friend and Ally
Peter Brooks
Tweeter
https://twitter.com/BrookesTimes/status/670554451485265920/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Is there an Odessa/ISIS oil smuggling operation ongoing since the new “governor” arrived in that Ukrainian port city?
If so, an article by Henry Kamens, with a lot of detailed Georgian/CIA recent history from the Saakashvili days in Georgia, entitled Turkey, Fighter Planes, Oil & Disgusting Common Connections First appeared: http://journal-neo.org/2015/12/01/turkey-fighter-planes-oil-disgusting-common-connections/
suggested to me the idea of somehow “killing two birds with one stone”.
Bird # 1 being Saakashvili and Bird # 2 being Erdogan. Kamens provides a lot of detail to suggest they are working closely together in the oil smuggling business, with the planning and encouragement of the Hegemon and Kamens comes to the “inescapable conclusion” that it must be so:
“The West arms, trains and funds ISIS. One way it does that is by buying its oil, in an attempt to maintain control of the supply. Now former clients of the CIA black ops department, Saakashvili and his gang, have been inserted to Ukraine, the latest US project, and control its ports. That is where the ISIS oil must be going. If you look at what went on in the Turkish-controlled ports in Georgia, Batumi and Poti, during Saakashvili’s time, all of which is well documented, this conclusion is inescapable.
Evil is stranger than fiction
Russia is the West’s biggest challenger for control of world energy resources. That is why the West soon abandoned its initial attempts to be friendly to post-Communist Russia: it couldn’t buy it off the way it did everywhere else, it has enough resources of its own. It is also why the West sees anything, war and smuggling included, as fair game in its struggle to retain control, as it is unable to prevail by purely legal means.
Consequently, Russia has to be made to be on the other side, somehow, even when it is technically on the same side as the West, as it is when combating ISIS. Shooting down fighter planes, which have led that fight against ISIS, thus serves many purposes, but none of them are good ones.
Percy Bysshe Shelley once wrote a poem entitled “To a Balloon Laden With Knowledge”.
Russia knows very well why the West continues with its wars and what their outcomes are. It also knows the track record of its patsies. This is the knowledge its planes are laden with, truth, and this is what the West is trying to shoot down. But there are enough Saakashvilis in this world to ensure that the truth isn’t going to go away.”
I hope Kamens is right that there is too much truth aloft for it to be shot out of the sky by Turkey or NATO. Could there be any way for Russia to legally “bust” Saakashvili and Erdogan? If the Kamens article is correct, would Putin already have satellite proof of the offloading of ISIS oil in Odessa?
Now the big effort is the preemptive counter meme, by Sly Lizard
http://m.smh.com.au/world/most-iraqis-believe-us-is-an-islamic-state-ally-20151202-gldf79.html
Somebody, anybody please!– who is a military aviation expert- what is the approximate ‘clean’ (except for drop tanks etc.) stall speed for an SU-24 with unswept wings? Search as I may I can’t find it. Also does it fly with some but not complete sweep? The more sweep the higher the stall speed and the higher the airspeed possible, over mach 1 at full sweep.
There is a slight wrinkle in the alleged 17 second transit in that everyone is assuming zero headwind/tailwind, whic obviously affects groundspeed and transit time. Stall speed is only relevant to airspeed not groundspeed.
I got no answer to the following earlier post which related to PCR’s post and which he has now continued with a piece from a real pilot. To cut through the explanation by the real pilot describing stall speeds, any aircraft in a 60 degree bank requires twice the lift of one in level flight. The cosine of 60 degrees is 0.5 meaning the load factor on the plane is now 2 (twice as much lift needed) and the square root of 2 is 1.44 so if we assume the stall speed of an SU-24 in level flight is 143 mph it will stall at 1.44 X 143 = 206 mph in a 60 degree bank. Basically, stall speed goes up by the square root of the load factor in any aircraft with wings.
Is this relevant? Probably not, as I doubt the SU-24 was in a 60 degree bank if it was going in a straight line through the salient of Turkish airspace as alleged.
Original PCR piece:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/26/stall-speed-of-su-24/
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/12/01/an-experienced-pilot-explains-stall-speed/
Excerpt from my former post:
” Given those 17 seconds, the alleged transit airspeed works out to 243 mph or 211 knots, which is suspiciously slow for a war zone. PCR stated this was close to or at stall speed. The SU-24 has a variable swept wing that goes from horizontal to swept back for speed. Top speed is a supersonic 710 knots at sea level and considerably higher at altitude.
As near as I have been able to find out, the stall speed is an unverified 124 knots (143 mph) -but that would almost certainly be unswept and with flaps down (flaps lower the stall speed -for landing).
At 6,000 meters the SU-24 certainly would not have had any flaps down and so other than it being a much higher airspeed I don’t know what the ‘clean’ unswept stall speed is. It may indeed be the 243 mph quoted. Complicating matters, I also don’t know if the SU-24 is designed to fly at some variable amount of sweep.
Although I have been unable to find out what the swept stall speed is, it may be academic since the falling plane appears to be unswept and this is probably normal for those short flights in Syria”
Anybody please, Vs! Stall speed of clean SU-24 with no sweep and also normal mission cruise speed -almost certainly higher than 243 mph.
Sanctuary One
I don’t think we need worry about the ’17 seconds’ … all the Russia objective data shows that the SU-24 did NOT enter Turkish air space. Numerous reports debunking the ’17 seconds’/
I am fully aware of that but having those technical details would move it from ‘expert’ opinion to undeniable technical proof. ‘Experts’ are frequently either considered wrong or only partially correct.
Stall speeds without flaps for an SU-24 can’t be a state secret.
Given that Russia is under permanent daily proxy war Hegemon/NATO attack now (today Montenegro), such technical proof is vital.
Science, not ideology, please.
Saker
I know very little about geopolitics but what I do know is that Russia is able to defend itself. That is to say, that it can readily neutralize the threat posed by Turkey. What I also know is that NATO and the US, UK, France etc… are the provocateurs in this war on Russia. These players will continue to strangle Russia – a bully will not stop bullying unless it is either badly hurt or defeated. Diplomacy, as applied by Russia many times in recent history, is next to useless when confronting a bully.
Now that Russia has drawn a line in the sand with regard to Syria, it is demonstrating to the world that it is not only committed to defending its allies, its very much willing to defend its people and its geopolitical interests. In short, Russia is now fighting for its very survival.
My question, therefore, is, how far is Russia prepared to go to give NATO the warning it deserves without plunging the world into WW3? Seriously, is Europe so deluded as to follow its orders from the US and is willingly prepared to go to war over Turkey’s widely acknowledged act of stupidity [war]?
My observation is that general consensus appears to be that Turkey is not worth Europe’s trouble to fight for, no matter the extent to which the MSM are prepared to spin the Empire’s need and desire for WW3. There is ample public sympathy and support all over the world, especially in Europe, for Russia and large condemnation of Turkey the moment that Turkey declared war on Russia by downing a Russian aircraft that posed no military threat to Turkey. The attacks on the crewmen were both illegal and barbaric, reminds me of the way the same terrorist proxies killed Ghaddafi.
Thank you very much indeed Weston [December 01 at 10:53 pm] and Huracan [December 02 at 1:34].
The interview with Bashar Assad which you both posted (and is entirely in English) is very much worth watching & listening, every one of the 33 minutes of it!
Assad is at the very centre of the gripping events unfolding right now in Syria, and yet this was the first time I had the opportunity to get a first hand impression of his person. A level-headed statesman, deserving of his people’s trust.
P.S.
http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ct24/svet/1628712-asad-pro-ct-rebelove-jsou-jako-zoldaci-vetsina-plni-zajmy-jinych – provides also a Czech transcript;
http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ivysilani/10997918455-mimoradne-porady-ct24/215411034000172-rozhovor-s-basarem-asadem/ – has the interview start at time 1:50 and end at time 34:34.
Religious perspective
http://shoebat.com/2015/12/01/88703/
Hi Saker, great interview. I could have read 4 times that amount. Thanks for the tidbit…
Putin did very well not falling for the Turk bait and instead responding with sanctions. Of course the goal of the Anglo-Zionist Empire is clear, but too bad the Empire has a lousy track record that can be debated before the Security Council: leaving a trail of tens and hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria and Yemen by proxy, sowing political/civil chaos and then creating millions of refugees in the process. So the argument is that Russia is now taking the lead to prevent what happened in Libya with good cause. Libya is a mess and parts of that country are falling into the hands of ISIS and this is a direct result of NATO/U.S. invasion of a sovereign state.
The Empire’s a total failure and has lost all credibility therefore it shouldn’t be hard to convince the rest of the world that there’s a better alternative initiated by Putin to restore balance and stability. I’m sure China recognizes the wisdom in what Putin is attempting and no doubt Putin is garnering respect in several other corners of the world for challenging the Empire’s disastrous PNAC agenda.
“Empire’s a total failure”? Are you naive? Chaos and destruction were all planned. Talking about democracy and so on were only for public consumption and lower rank functionaries.
Order out of chaos – the masonic motto. You can easily find W in an interview mentioning it. It sounds out of context to the ones not paying attention. W is intellectually challenged, but he is not “stupid” in the sense people think. Pretending to be stupid is a common method to maintain “plausible deniability”.
“What is taking place today is a world war between, on one hand, the so-called ‘West’ (the US Empire) and what I call the ‘Resistance’ i.e., Russia, China, the BRICS, the SCO countries, Latin America, etc.”
Whatever happened to the Anglo-Zionists?
Is this a rectification of the deflection of complicity into its recognition?
A few comments on Russia’s geographic situation. And how it relates to problems today:
We all know Russia is the World’s largest nation in size (by a lot). And as for land location its in many ways ideal. But that is purely for land location. Her sea location is much less than “ideal”. The major areas of population are in “European” Russia. And the seas available to them are the Baltic,Black,and Caspian.
The Caspian is really a huge lake,shared by 5 nations. Its undeveloped as far as real important trade goes. For it to be really important to Russian trade,those other 4 countries would need to increase their ability to trade more. The one good point is that Russia has 2 of the other states as allies. And the other 2 aren’t enemies even if not really fully allies.
The Black Sea is bordered by 6 countries. And has only one entrance and exit (at Istanbul in Turkey). And not a single one of those countries is a friend or ally of Russia’s. With Crimea rejoining Russia it made the control of the Black Sea internally much easier for Russia (while giving other problems). But still the Black Sea can’t be considered a great point for Russian World trade in times of crisis. The latest problem of “what if Turkey closes the Straits” shows why that is.
The Baltic Sea is important to Russia as well. The “Queen of the Baltic,St Petersburg” is the largest city in the Baltic region and Russia’s second city.There are 9 countries that share the Baltic Sea. And Russia’s coast line there is the 2nd smallest of them all. The Baltic also has a problem for Russia as far as entrance and exit goes. Their shipping must go either through waters near Denmark,or through a canal in Sweden.Those countries as well as all the 8 other Baltic Sea countries are either enemies of Russia or at best “iffy” in their friendship. Again,that is far from an ideal situation for Russian sea trade and naval power.Russia may be able to control the Baltic Sea internally. But with it and the Black Sea Russia is contained basically in a “cauldron”.
Russia borders 2 other massive bodies of water as well,the Arctic and Pacific Oceans. And here the conditions are much better in some ways for Russia. But not good in other ways. The good are,she has vast unhindered coastlines there (especially in the Arctic). Russia pretty much now (and for the foreseeable future) can control Arctic defense. And the same in her Pacific coast areas. Japan complicates that slightly,but not seriously. The main problem for Russia there is the areas are very underdeveloped and around 3/4 of her population doesn’t live near those coasts. In the winter the coastal waters can freeze and trade is slight compared to the other Seas.
Its because of those location and climatic problems that its extremely important for Russia to develop her “overland” trade. The Silkroad ,other railroad,air cargo,and pipeline routes,are what Russia needs to develop to make up for what she can’t do by shipping. Her location “is ideal” for that. But until those can come to be completed fully. It makes her very vulnerable to trade problems by sea.
Hi Saker,
Thank you for another excellent report and we all can’t wait till you get back.
I am confused about why Putin is agreeing to a new election and new Constitution in Syria? If you could help me to understand what he means by , “And overall, I think we have an understanding of where we need to go. If we are talking about the need for a political settlement, then we need to work on a new constitution, new elections and monitoring of their results.”
It sounds like Putin is agreeing that there has to be a new government? Or is Putin just basically stating as he always has that it is up to the people to decide? Also, what happens when the people vote in Assad again or what happens if they don’t? I can’t imagine in my mind where that would lead if he is voted out. And what happens if he is voted in again regarding the US since the US is adamant to rid Assad?
Question: Mr President, we know that you had a meeting with President Obama today. What did you discuss, and did you agree on anything?
Vladimir Putin: We talked first and foremost about Syria, as well as things that should be at the forefront of our attention in the near future, including the list of what we consider to be terrorist organisations and the list of organisations that represent the healthy part of the Syrian opposition. We also talked about our joint actions on this political track. And overall, I think we have an understanding of where we need to go. If we are talking about the need for a political settlement, then we need to work on a new constitution, new elections and monitoring of their results.
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50850
Thank you
What about this then: The Madness of King Erdogan
http://m.journal-neo.org/2015/12/02/the-madness-of-king-erdogan/
fight for the Syrian/Turkish border: An article by Mike Whitney from Counterpunch
http://russia-insider.com/en/putins-revenge-fight-border/ri11592
Russian elites seem to be divided between nationalists and liberals and Putin has the role of “arbitrator” between these groups. That’s why Russian policies are somewhat “balanced”. Neither nationalistic nor globalist. A little of both. And this is a serious disadvantage for Russia as it is being pushed into the corner by the “West”. Russia has the choice of integrating to NWO as a vassal or creating an alternative socio-economic system (like the USSR was).
The current Russian regime is very similar to what Marx described as Bonapartism about the regimes of Napoleon Bonaparte and Napoleon III. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonapartism)
An authoritarian centralized state, with a strongman charismatic leader based on anti-elitist rhetoric, army support, and conservatism, a situation in which counter-revolutionary military officers seize power and use selective reformism to co-opt the radicalism of the popular classes.
The economic and social devastation inflicted upon Russia after the dissolution of USSR,
increased the nationalist and pro-soviet sentiment of a vast majority of Russian people. There was popular discontent against the capitalist reforms, with the 1993 political crisis and with the 1995 elections (with the communist party losing after widespread fraud).
Sort of a popular rebellion, Putin came to power and managed to stabilise the situation with some policies that are nationalist and pro-soviet. But most of the corrupt oligarchs have kept their illegally acquired wealth and the generous USSR social policies are an old memory in the present Russian capitalist economy. Russia is not as sovereign as USSR and certainly does not have the vast economic and military capabilities of USSR.
Why should Russia worrry if it elect to be in a role of US in Ukraine in Syria? Turkey has as much interest in Syria as Russia has in Ukraine. But Russians seems can not see it. So now uou are going to win 32.5 of 34 wars in 300 years, and farther away from peace and prosterity.
If Thierry Meyssan is right, than Turkey is toast!
Why did Turkey shoot down the Russian Soukhoï 24 ? – by Thierry Meyssan
Kurdistan in Turkey seems like a decent outcome as Erdogan looks more and more like an Anatolian Bogeyman in Gangster’s Paradise.
Olny thing is this sounds too good to be true.
Turkey is being demonized for the very action that was ok’d by the US/NATO. It is not believable that NATO occupied Turkey shot down the plane without the ok of the head of NATO, the US. What did Erdogon have to gain by doing so?
Exactly
Saker says: “What is taking place today is a world war between, on one hand, the so-called ‘West’ (the US Empire) and what I call the ‘Resistance’ i.e., Russia, China, the BRICS, the SCO countries, Latin America, etc. What is at stake here is the future of our planet: it will either be ruled by a single world Hegemon or it will be organized as a multi-polar world.” This is a provocative thought.
But these aren’t the options facing the world. The real options are: 1) the global financial powers, in a misguided attempt to jump-start the economy, drive Russia-China vs. ISIS-Pakistan-US into a major war that escalates to nuclear catastrophe, resulting in Nuclear Winter that decimates the vast majority of living creatures, or 2) the planet will be ruled even more oppressively by the global financial elite, which already dominates the US and other Western governments as well as, increasingly, Russia.
The US is not the threat. The “US Empire” is a mask. The real threat are the transnational corporate and banking powers, based primarily in the US and Europe, with links to Israel and agents in Moscow. I wish Saker would see that the US government is a mere puppet and start saying so.
We need to identify the real enemy if we’re to have any effect in stopping it.
» The US is not the threat. The “US Empire” is a mask. The real threat are the transnational corporate and banking powers … the US government is a mere puppet … «
An exciting new perspective.
I just discovered a discussion argueing that the World Trade Center twin towers were, mostly, hollow. Some office space on the lower levels, some tourist platform on the top – and not much inbetween. An automated shutter and lighting system to create the illusion of actiivity.
Let’s Roll Forums » The World Trade Center – Hollow & Empty on 9/11
The Towers – hollow and empty – a mere illusion. An illusion of American World Trade Power.
President, Government, Congress, Supreme Court – hollowed out, almost entirely a charade, run by Big Business.
Fascinating.
The so-called “transnational elite” is a euphemism for the American capitalist-imperialist class and its stooges and clients around the world.
The American Empire is anything but a mask and your assertion is a contrived meme/psyops to deflect blame away from the United States.
Americans certainly are the world’s greatest propagandists as they instinctively attempt to downplay and spindoctor the crimes of their Empire and even deny its very existence!
Niall Ferguson best described the USA when he called America an “empire in denial”:
“The United States is the empire that dare not speak its name. It is an empire in denial, and US denial of this poses a real danger to the world. An empire that doesn’t recognise its own power is a dangerous one.”
US ‘is an empire in denial’
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/jun/02/highereducation.books
Note to the reader: This is a hypothetical scenario not intended as an operational blueprint.
The defeat of NATO:
It is possible and very much within reach for a scenario where NATO could be quickly and thoroughly destroyed without even directly fighting its most powerful members. Turkey is NATO’s Achilles heel so this is the weak point the place where one well placed ‘shot’ could topple the whole structure. Turkey has already committed at least one overt act of war against Russia and many multiple against Syria. If it were to escalate the acts of aggression then this is what could be done, mind you it would be no small task but I believe perfectly within reasonable reach. Let us say that Turkey under orders from Washington decides to block the Bosporus & Dardanelles to Russian traffic especially military ships which constitutes an act of war, though if Turkey declares war it would seem to have some legal right but then it is war and now all is fair.
Russia & allies could move very quickly:
Create a no fly zone over most or if possible all of Turkey with the S-400/300’s from Syria & Armenia + navy ships in the Mediterranean and Black Sea.
Land an amphibious assault force to take control over the Sea of Marmara and the straits.
Take out strategic military targets using cruise missiles to degrade their ability to counter attack.
Send in the shock troops (Special Forces, Spetsnaz) to further destabilize the regime and degrade their military capacity.
Arm and support the Kurds in South East Turkey so that they achieve a state.
Greece would then take back all of Thrace and return Constantinople to its rightful owners.
Meanwhile have the Iranians and their Shia allies take out the Saudis (that should not be too difficult) their army is made up of mostly mercs from other countries so their desire to fight will not be great. Don’t forget Qatar, Kuwait, and Bahrain.
This would (if done quickly in a month or less) completely change the facts on the ground, NATO would not be able to react in a timely manner to prevent this, it moves like molasses.
Weaker, less anti-Russian NATO states would fill their pants and start making peace with Russia by leaving the block en mass.
NATO is no longer, but most likely the US would rally together the Anglo world + together with some of the former colonial powers to restructure a new alliance with what I would guess to be about 12 countries in total.