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In an extended interview with the Israeli i24News Arabic channel, Jewish settler leader Daniella Weiss says that Palestinians have no right to establish a state, and that the land of Israel belongs to the Jewish people as proclaimed by the ‘eternal words of the Bible’.
Weiss also expresses her disappointment with the UAE for demanding that the annexation plan for parts of the West Bank be frozen in exchange for Emirati peace with Israel. Weiss wondered, “I don’t understand why for peace, we, the settlers in Judea and Samaria (i.e. the West Bank), are expected to stop developing ourselves!”
Source: i24NEWS Arabic (YouTube)
Date: Sep 4, 2020
Transcript:
Host:
Welcome, dear viewers, to a new episode of “Hadith Akhar”.
Her settlement activity in the West Bank began in the early 1970s. She was the secretary general of the most hardline settlement movement. She was imprisoned for rioting in the West Bank. In past years she has also been active in a movement that supports the establishment of illegal settlement outposts.
We talk to Daniella Weiss in “Hadith Akhar”.
TV report:
Daniella Weiss was born in Bnei Brak, just east of Tel Aviv in 1945. During the period 1984-1988, she was the General Secretary of the Gush Emunim settlement movement. In 1987, she was arrested and convicted with respect to rioting in the city of Qalqilya (located in the north of the West Bank). During the period 1996-2007, she was elected head of the local council of the Kedumim settlement, just near Qalqilya. In 1992, she failed to reach the Knesset on a ticket supported by settlers.
Host:
Welcome Ms. Daniella. Let us start from the latest developments in the (Israeli) political arena.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu froze the annexation plan (to annex the West Bank, or parts thereof, to Israel territory) in exchange for establishing ties with the United Arab Emirates (UAE). First, how do you view this step by Netanyahu?
Weiss:
Greetings. I think that this step is a big mistake on the part of our Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to stop the development of the Jewish community in Judea and Samaria (i.e. the Israeli government term for the West Bank). But, I’m not sure that he specifically said that he will “freeze” (the annexation plan), I think he said that he will ‘stop the process of annexation of declaring Israeli law on the Jewish community (in that region). But if you’re telling me that it’s even worse (than this), then I’ll be disappointed with him, since (Netanyahu) is a great leader and I, as a member of the Jewish community in Judea and Samaria, always expect more from him.
Host:
This is a controversial topic (cancelation of annexation plan); Netanyahu says that he “halted” or “froze” (the annexation plan). In contrast, the Emirati state says that this plan is “canceled and is now off the table” in exchange for ties with the UAE. So, was it peace in exchange for (cancelling) this Israeli (annexation) plan?
Weiss:
I must say that I am very much disappointed also from the Emirati side, that they demand stopping the annexation or the development of the Jewish community (in exchange) for peace. Well, I was planning to show you what is the stage of (sic) – these black spots (on the map) show what is planned for the Palestinian state, and the white color refers to Jewish settlement. This means that the Israeli state is threatened by a Palestinian state which doesn’t express love or support for the Jewish state.
For this reason, I don’t understand why for peace, we, the settlers in Judea and Samaria (i.e. the West Bank), we are expected to stop developing ourselves. It doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t sound like a step towards peace, it sounds like leaving us, the settlers in Judea and Samaria, and leaving the state of Israel with a narrow strip (of land), if they were (indeed) to take off part of this land for the sake of a Palestinian state.
This is (most) unreasonable. And I am looking forward to seeing how (Netanyahu) sees this peace agreement, because there doesn’t seem to me much peace in this agreement. It seems to be an intersection of interests, which is good for the Emirates, good for the US, but not good for Israel.
Host:
Yet peace (between Israel) and the Arabs, and several Arab states, considering that many of (these states) had mutual enmity with Israel, isn’t Israel’s sense of security and safety in relation to neighbouring Arab states, isn’t this worth giving up the annexation plan and settlement expansion in the West Bank?
Weiss:
I think I am trying to explain. There is a reason to give away the annexation (plan). But there is a map which shows that the narrow waist of the Israeli state is an impossible situation for (Israel) to live long with. I think we should be more careful, since some say that the Sinai Peninsula that was given to the Egyptians poses some threat to Israel. But (for me) it is livable. Certain parts from the borders that were given to Jordan were small. Gaza was a catastrophe, but we can live with it. But can we live without our heart? The center of our homeland? This makes no sense. I know there is a high level of celebration but I am not celebrating. I am warning. I warn if the condition was to stop Jewish life in the heart of our homeland for what is defined as a peace, then this is not a peace.
Host:
Yet you had your own stance in relation to the annexation plan. When this plan was proposed and put into implementation, it faced opposition due to ideological reasons that considered (the plan) destructive for the Israeli state and for the settlement project. On the other hand, the world and the majority of the world view it as being destructive for the two-state solution. What threatens this plan? What threatens your (settlement) project in this regard?
Weiss:
You did very good homework. Not many people in Israel know exactly what the stance of some settlers was. It is correct that I was in the settler camp which was very much against the annexation plan which went by the plan which is called the “Trump Plan” or the “Deal of the Century”. Why was I against it? Because it was directly connected with building a Palestinian (home) state, and here it’s not just about giving 30% (of the area) for the settlers and the rest is for the Palestinians. It was a formal recognition that gives the possibility for the establishment of a Palestinian state in the heart of the homeland of the Jews. Why would I agree with it? Do you know why some did agree with it? Because we were under so much stress – I mean we the settlers – for so many years, with the freezing (of the settlements) in Obama’s time, in addition to the redlines even during Trump’s term.
So some people were thinking that there will be (positive) change; that we (as settlers in certain outposts) will become considered a part of the Israeli state, and that this will be in our favor. Usually, I see life in its positive fold. This time though, I saw that Trump, Kushner, and their team pledged that 70% of this area be for a Palestinian state that will be established. I believe that this is impossible. There is a Palestinian Authority that has the democratic ability to run life for Palestinians in a democratic way, but not through an independent state.
Host:
You oppose Trump’s Deal of the Century; don’t you feel concerned that you will lose such an American ally who backs Israel? Don’t you fear that Israel and the settlers may lose this supportive friend of Israel?
Weiss:
Mohammad, you are asking me this question on the day of the first ever flight from Israel to Abu Dhabi into the Emirates. It’s not just about this tiny thing, i.e. what is going to happen in Judea and Samaria. It is a global interest. More than Israel needs the US, the US needs Israel. Because it is a global interest. It is the ongoing struggle between Russia and US; it’s about natural resources; about oil; about the world fight against terror; about the Iran threat; about the conflict between Iran (on the one hand), and Saudi Arabia, the Emirates and the US (on the other). It is a global thing.
I was planning to to tell (Netanyahu), who’s going to deliver an address in 20 minutes, that he shouldn’t be afraid of the US. Trump is an ally of Israel. And since the (US) has (shared) interests with Israel and interests in the Middle East, (Netanyahu) knows well that the US can rely on Israel (which serves its interests). It is time for Netanyahu to demand from Trump the growth of the Jewish community in Judea and Samaria, and not the freezing of such construction. We must be brave and not bow down. (Netanyahu) is a brave man, but the freezing (of settlement construction) in Judea and Samaria is not a brave step from him.
Host:
You are against the establishment of a Palestinian state and the freezing of settlement construction in the West Bank as well. If we want to talk about the borders of the state of Israel as far as you’re concerned, where do the borders of the state of Israel extend to? You have shown your map (to the viewers), kindly show us the Israeli state borders (on your map), as far as you’re concerned.
Weiss:
From the political point of view, the state of Israel, in the current political situation, is located between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, including the entire Golan Heights, the Galilee and the Golan (regions). Regarding the Jewish religion and its creed, we can (then) speak the language of the religion and creed; we have the ‘promised land’ from the Bible. The Middle East in WWI and WWII was different from now. Some day, according to the Bible, a change may occur in this land. But in this current political situation, (Israeli) borders are between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.
Host:
What about the Palestinians for whom you deny the right of statehood? Where should they go? Is the solution, as you use to say, to encourage (the Palestinians) to migrate?
Weiss:
Let’s start from the first part of your question. The Palestinians have the ‘Palestinian Authority’. This authority has the right to have its own democratic elections; it has the right to have its own institutions and departments; however, it is not a state of its own. The only state in Israel is Israel. This is its name, Israel, coming from our forefathers. So there’s no option to build another state within France or the United Kingdom, just as there is no option to establish another state within Israel. Israel is for the Jews. ‘Israel’, meaning Jacob, this is the beginning of our nation.
Today, what will happen? (The Palestinians) have an Authority, they have independent lives, but they have no ability to vote for the Knesset. They can vote for their own institutions, not as (institutions) of a state, but rather institutions belonging to the (Palestinian) Authority.
Host:
However, more than 5 million Palestinians live in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Don’t they have the right to have an independent state in which they can live?
Weiss:
I think that – and we will not debate now whether there are four or five million (Palestinians), four million is still a good number – let’s continue from this point: the fact that the Jewish state was established, and even before this, the fact that the Jewish pioneers came from all over the world and began to revive the holy land of Israel once again, which was a desolate country at the end of the Ottoman Empire.
Then it attracted – and this is a well-known fact – it attracted many Arabs, Bedouins, tribes, from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt, they all came to the land of Israel, and this is how (this land) was developed. It was the result of the Jews who came to this land; the new cities and towns that were established by Jewish pioneers, who revived the desolate land, and made it an attractive place for people all over the Middle East.
That does not mean that we – that the Jews – have to give up and say: ‘well, we have to share the only state that the Jews have in the world, to share it with another country’. They should have taken this into consideration, and we said it at the appropriate time, that we will never divide up our homeland in Israel (with other people). By the way, and here I made a mistake: there was a partition plan in 1947, and the Jewish leadership did agree (to it), to share the western part of the land of Israel. This proposal was rejected by the Arabs, and I (personally) was not in support of this proposal either.
Well, who can argue with that argument, the Bible is the most reliable historical document!Although I thought their holly book is Torah not the Bible!But then again, wasn’t Ishmael son of Abraham too, and was promised all kind of things by god ?
Traditional Jewish writings don’t justify Zionism so they refer to the bloodiest tradition in the region : the Bible to justify crimes agaist humanity. Naturally, LOL.
To be fair, I do believe that the bible that this hag is referring to is the Talmud.
In any case, to this despicable hag, the Bible is nothing more than a real estate agent’s manual. Still this shameless land thief would hang to anything to justify the rape of Palestine, including the satanic Bible.
Nowhere does any Holy Book imply that the kings of the earth should set up a kingdom for Christ or Israel in the Holy Land. So ,Who has required this at Their hand? Who has demanded the spilling of blood for backslidden Sons of Abraham? Just askin’.
The Canaanites/Amorites/Philistines/Midianites/PALESTINIANS were in PALESTINE long before Israel was even thought of. The PALESTINIAN’s ancestors were there when ABRAHAM passed through from Babylon/Ur …… How else could Moses/Israel BRAG about exterminating/”SHOAHing” them !?!?!?!
Israel’s “claim” to Palestine is based entirely on War Crimes and GENOCIDE.
‘In the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes’–Deuteronomy 20:16-18
Abraham was thrown out of Ur (not in Palestine, in BABYLON) for being a pimp and a blackmailer, something he did TWICE more in the bible[GEN c12 vs 11-20 & GEN.c20]. Those were not “angels”, that warned Abraham to get out of UR, they were SNITCHES letting him know the city Elders were “on” to him.
Jacob, the “father” of judaism with his MOTHER???:
Jacob was a weasel who conspired with his Mother to deceive his Father and STEAL the birthright from his Brother, and after happily accepting meat from Esau his Brother, Jacob refused to SHARE his own food. Jacob went near unto Isaac his Father; and Isaac felt him, and said, The voice is Jacob’s voice, but the hands are the hands of Esau.—Genesis 27:22
Jacob was SCUM, like ALL his descendents. Jacob and the case of the magical genetics – Found in: Genesis 30:37-39 and Genesis 30: 42 Jacob defrauds Laban There is NO evidence for A King David or King Solomon. David’s kingdom -1000 to 930 BC But
No Official state records exist from any Kingdom near these Fictional Kings.
No records of trade,war ….Nothing.!.
Ah, the ‘eternal words of the Bible’, once again the justification for Israel dehumanizing the Palestinians. Can’t say it’s much different, though, from how Europeans justified grabbing Turtle Island from the indigenous peoples that had lived here for millennia. Manifest Destiny is just another way of saying we are the “chosen” and our god gave us the right to take your land and resources and exterminate you.
When anyone makes an idol of some book, or scroll, or even some past human conception, they cut themselves off from the living G-d who continually works in the world to further justice, compassion, and truth. It’s not for us to even begin to understand how this all works, just to be open and responsive to the Logos without trying to beat someone else over the head with it. Nuff said.
Well said Tommy!
Your tar brush is a little wide……………it was the English and thier bastard offspring that stole Turtle Island, not Europeans; a much later afterthought.
Popular literature states that humans came to North America via a frozen land bridge from Siberia, making Turtle Island’s first inhabitants Russian.
Popular Indigenious Oral Traditions have the first land mass on the planet being Turtle Island, where all life originated, making NA First Nations the first humans on Earth. Luckily for them, Turtle Island is far away from Occupied Palestine, otherwise they’d be kicked off the Island too. Woops, sorry, that’s still in the works in both places……………………
Cheers, M
Don’t forget the Spanish and the French. They had their hands in it, too.
Oh, right. Let’s ignore the Dutch, the French, Norwegians, the Spanish who cut tongues out and cut off the people’s hands.
We native Americans know what’s going on. We know U$ NDN removal policies inspired Hitler.
We know, like the Wasichu’s did in the black hills…Israel is using the settlers to do the killing….as the Federal gov’t was unable to defeat us and we forced them to the treaty tables so they had the blood thirsty american people do it while invading the Black Hills for gold. We NDNs were forced back to the rez where we were disarmed, rounded up on a cold winter night and shot in the hundreds and thrown into prepared mass graves. The murdering bastards that did it were awarded the Medal of Honor at Wounded Knee. The asshole that wrote Wizard of Oz advocated for the murder of all NDNs.
We have special affinity with Palestinians, just like the Jews have for the Nazis that have inspired them. We are supposed to cry for these murderous bastards every year. Ha.
Not one thing has changed in U$ policies. Not one.
“Ah, the ‘eternal words of the Bible’, once again the justification for Israel dehumanizing the Palestinians.”
“…they cut themselves off from the living G-d who continually works in the world to further justice, compassion, and truth.”
Both statements are predicated on the same assumption – the existence of the “devine”.
Both statements are predicated on the same assumption – that the “divine” is on my side.
These were among the bases of the medieval “debate” on how many angels sit on the end of a pin thereby asserting the existence of angels, a charade iterating within a mythical paradigm in attempt of re-enforcing reliance on belief, and increasing probability of children’s crusades.
No, this is the response of a Christian agnostic (Lutheran) who acknowledges that all statements about the Logos, including yours and mine, are limited by our inability to comprehend the “ground” (logos) of our existence. Therefore, any claims that our so-called god is on our side are baseless.
” No, this is the response of a Christian agnostic (Lutheran) who acknowledges that all statements about the Logos, including yours and mine, are limited by our inability to comprehend the “ground” (logos) of our existence.”
Framing conditions interpretation and possible actions contingent thereupon, and the comments made in OlyaPola on September 23, 2020 · at 6:48 pm EST/EDT are predicated on the acceptance of the impossibility of omniscience and the practice of some to bridge doubt by belief to attain comfort through the invention of constructs.
Among the constructs created to bridge doubt whilst avoiding we-don’t-knowness are infinity, gods,human nature, we-the-people-hold-these-truths-to be-self-evidentness, and “representative democracy”.
If the purpose is transcendence rather than ascension, opportunies are increased through the acceptance and embracement of doubt, and the avoidance of attempts to bridge doubt by belief to attain comfort through the inventition of constructs.
Some others do not have the purpose of transcendence by testing the hypothese of- how to drown a drowning man with the minimum of blowback – and implementing/evaluating strategies derived therefrom to facilitate their purpose, but have the purpose of facilitating the ascension of coercive social relations through bridging doubt whilst avoiding we-don’t-knowness through the invention of constructs, and in their perception deem gods and their derivative god-on-our-sideness as useful tool in facilitating their purpose.
“Therefore, any claims that our so-called god is on our side are baseless.”
Claims of god-on-our-sideness are not baseless as outlined above, its basis is ideological – as Mr. Marx observed, ideology becomes a motive force when it grips the masses.
Since unlike the Bolsheviks and their construct “The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics” within which others were complicit in varying assays, the Russian Federation does not hold that it is omniscient, and hence does not seek to implement coercive practices such as banning and/or eradicateing “religion” or others forms of bridging doubt by invented constructs, since the existence of invented constructs facilitates the constructs illumination as part of the lateral process of transcendence – an example of the complicity of others in their own transcendence.
How-to-drown-a-drowning-man-with-the-minimum-of-blowback acknowledges that some level of blowback cannot be avoided – the example chosen to illuminate that in OlyaPola on September 23, 2020 · at 6:48 pm EST/EDT was ” increasing probability of children’s crusades.”
Thank you for your further iteration of attempts to bridge doubt by belief to attain comfort in your construct “this is the response of a Christian agnostic (Lutheran)”.
My response, sad to say, is very 20th Century, so as I am…
https://vimeo.com/61215628
God’s covenant wasn’t with converted Jews but with the ancient Hebrews, which these people in Modern Apartheid Israel aren’t.
In addition God specifically divorced Himself from these Hebrews, especially after He allowed them all to be massacred in 70 AD.
Besides, the promises to the Hebrews are not transferrable to converted Jews.
http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/09/10/a-brief-history-of-the-kingdoms-of-israel-and-judah/
My grandmother, who came from an ancient family in Damascus, said that when Jews abandoned Jesus, they ceased to be God’s chosen people and were replaced by Christians. Explains why Israel is so envious her elder sister.
Excellent. Here we have a perfect example of a crook mindset of a delusional settler. Israel was a desert so the God send the noble people to revive the promised land and the ‘wandering who’ i.e. the Arabs came to Israel. wonderful. What is there to discuss except, Palestine never was desolate nor uninhabited. According to the same Bible which Miss Weiss quotes asks the chosen ones to go to Palestine and settle there and eradicate the people if they resist. So if i may ask, which people Bible mentions here? Can i ask who were these Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites whom God commands to be destroyed? Miss Weiss should read Wandering Who by Gilad Atzmon for some clarification since she is totally out of touch with reality.
‘This means that the Israeli state is threatened by a Palestinian state which doesn’t express love or support for the Jewish state.’
What a totally narcissistic ridiculous statement.
If she feels threatened by any foreign people who do not ‘express love or support for the Jewish State’, she needs psychotherapeutic counselling. She also needs to be told in stark and brutal terms the relative levels of murderous weaponry available to the Israeli State vs the Palestinian peoples. It is rather like North American Indians having to fight with bows and arrows against the mass gunfire available to the European zealots.
Palestinians are neither required to express love for Israel nor to support the Jewish State. They are merely required not to seek its murderous destruction.
She also needs to consider the Palestinian people to be people who are also capable of feeling threatened by Israeli incursions into the place they have lived their whole lives. What is sauce for a far-right Zionist nutcase is also sauce for Palestinians whose homes have been bombed by Israeli raids over the years….
The second question this strident Zionist needs to be asked is a simple one: ‘Who wrote the Bible and who gave them sole rights to declare historical truth?’
The Bible is an historical document, an intensely political one at that. The Conference of Nicea was involved in all kinds of suppression of input not deemed appropriate for the political crusade at hand. It was clearly put together by a group of people with strong editorial powers.
Editorial powers merely provide one version of history. They do not document the truth.
Of course she will believe any document that claims territory for Israel. She is an Israeli after all.
I do hope her DNA shows that her forebears did not come from Khazaria though, that would be most embarrassing….you cannot be Khazarian and claim historical title to Palestine, I am afraid….
The next arena of laughable hypocrisy concerns ‘the proposal to build a Palestinian State in the heart of the homeland of the Jews’. I wonder where she proposes that a Palestinian State should actually be built, if not where it is currently being proposed? Perhaps Egypt should give up some territory instead (ROFL)? The day she comes up with a proposal which is not laughed out of court is the day she can be taken as a serious political operator rather than a hotheaded extremist. (Yes, individual Jews clearly can be hotheaded and some are certainly extremist).
I am sure she is being used by Netanyahu to press for far more extreme compromises, so that the actual deal currently put forward is seen as ‘being fair and reasonable’.
Just remember: the deal is between absolute monarchies and the Jewish State, it is not between representatives of distinct nations.
I am not saying that absolute monarchies are intrinsically evil, but they certainly have a history of being extremely financially inequitable.
You are not exactly building a mass movement of supporters behind your cause by signing up three monarchs….are you?
If Israel ever wants long-lasting security, it is going to have win the hearts and minds of ordinary citizens of the lands surrounding her territory and that is not going to happen if she spends decades trying to blow their goddamned heads off in tit-for-tat reprisals….
I suggest she goes and does a bit of reading about how John Hume (start here before delving deeper: https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2020/8/3/21352471/john-hume-northern-ireland-nobel-peace-prize-dies) set about getting murderous bickering factions to lay down their gons and start talking to each other.
Not shouting AT each other, talking TO each other….
You cannot talk to anyone if you are constantly in TRANSMIT mode….
Les and less can I see anything in the future but war.
The utter intransigence, inhumanity and cruelty of the mad Zionist Gang, the insanity in the American Kleptocratic Regime and its MIC, mean they will continue, like a badly behaved dangerously out of control teenager, until it ges the severe kick in the butt it is clearly demanding.
It isn’t helped by the appearance it is deriving from the other nations pursuing the line of “peace and respect for others” that this means they are weak, scared of it, and have given it carte blanche to do anything it wants.
So far, it’s just bluster. So far they do appear to be waving a rusty broken sword and swearing death and destruction. But they are quite capable of pressing a red button – and this is the major fear.
I pray I’m wrong – but historical and human psychological precedent leave the view little other perspective.
“precedent”
Reliance on precendent facilitates an increase in the half-lives of phenomena – the “rule of law”, the cloak within which the rule of man is often cloaked, based on “case law” or “constitutions” being relevant examples.
Reliance on “war” being restricted to things that go bang also facilitates an increase in the half-lives of phenomena by obfuscating that states of war encapsulate all coercive relations, and hence Mr. Suslov’s observation that the coercive relations self-designated as “United States of America” had been at war with the “Soviet Union” and others including themselves since at least 1922.
Interaction is not subject to sole agency but like all phenomena interaction facilitates opportunities of lateral change.
“Les and less can I see anything in the future but war.”
That is not an unalloyed disadvantage to others pondering how to drown a drowning man with the minimum of blowback where the opponents are prone to remants of “democratic ideology” where supposedly everyone is held not only to be capable of, but also has the right to, their own opinion.
The opponents are also prone to remnants of belief in their own signifance and facilities.
Some realise that death is not avoidable and hence do not necessarily assign the same significance to death that others do, and consequently some with facility are prepared to ensure that nuclear options will be Samsom options for all, including others who attempted to posit in meetings in Obnynsk and Seversk in 1992/3 – although that is not the preferred outcome or method of transcendence, offering the opportunity to Mr. Pompeo and others to exceptionalist rapture.
“but historical and human psychological precedent leave the view little other perspective.”
Perhaps “the view (of) little other perspective” is a function of facility including framing?
“Reliance on precendent facilitates an increase in the half-lives of phenomena – the “rule of law”, the cloak within which the rule of man is often cloaked, based on “case law” or “constitutions” being relevant examples. “
https://www.rt.com/shows/renegade-inc/501137-crime-uk-debt-deportation/
From a different view point,/elevation, an illustration of how some facilitate “unexpected consequences” and become complicit in processes of their own transcendence, accentuated by their resort to belief to bridge doubt to attain monentary comfort.
A European with the last name Weiss talking about settling Palestinian lands. Too much irony.
Weiss colonialism continues.
The Hebrew Torah has been co-opted by the Talmudic Pharisees and their Jewish ilk who believe Israel belongs only to them. What about the descendants of the other 11 tribes, do they not share in the Lord’s gift as well?
A person does not lose their bloodline because they relocate to another land anymore than an Italian stops being Italian or a Russian stops being Russian when they move away from their ancestor’s land. The progeny of Abraham’s grandson Jacob (Asher, Benjamin, Dan, Gad, Issachar, Joseph, Levi, Naphtali, Reuben, Simeon, Zebulun) exist somewhere else in the world. They have as much right to “Israel” as the inhabitants of the Roman province of Judea who were principally made up of the descendants of he Tribes of Judah and Benjamin and were called Judeans or the modern name, “Jews” (see: https://christiansfortruth.com/who-are-jews/ ).
So it’s time for all Hebrews to speak up and let the world hear their collective voice about the how the Jews are stealing their birthright!
Yep, exactly what we should have expected from a hard-core zionist. These people are not going to change and there isn’t much point in expecting them to do so. Here is the new nazism based upon a vicious transcendent racist mythology which stops at nothing including mass murder – Operation Cast Lead, Operation Protective Edge, Blowing Up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem are par for the course. Only relentless pressure using all means available to overthrow this monstrous regime from power.
Great article.
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Thank You!
I hate to pop anyone’s delusion balloon, but the Old Testament, New Testament, Talmud, Torah, Tora Tora Tora and of course the Book of Mormon are all self-serving tomes written by semi-illiterate men who understood nothing of science or logical fallacies.
Zionists have to use “proof”’ from their self-serving books to justify their inhuman and basically less than human and less than moral treatment of Palestinians for the simple reason they are inhumane and less than moral and no justification other than “God said so” suits their purpose.
I read somewhere that Jews believe in God, their God, and they won’t share, and they don’t believe in life after death. How convenient then for a Jew named Saul to teach non-Jews about everlasting life and of course, Jews should be revered in this one.
It’s. All. One. Big. Con. Game.
Jews cannot wrap their mind around the fact that “the kingdom of God was taken away from them and given to a people who will produce its fruit”. The ‘promise’ was cancelled 2000 years ago.
The Kingdom of God is here and now for those with eyes that see and ears that hear. It can not be entered by those who grasp and covet, lie, cheat and steal, and who, if they could get away with it, would murder those they call outsiders as easily as they murder souls. The Kingdom of God is a state of mind and Jews refuse to enter.
If you want to enter the Kingdom of God, you must learn to love your enemy.
É uma piada ouvir de uma sionista que os palestinos não tem amor por Israel. Como se ama o seu opressor ou melhor o seu algoz.
Google translation,MOD:
It is a joke to hear from a Zionist that the Palestinians have no love for Israel. How you love your oppressor or better your executioner.
This interview needs to be read with Michael Hoffman’s excellent and eye-opening — at least for me — article on the Talmud, the real Zionist holy book. They explain the Israeli mindset quite clearly. I’ve always been troubled for years by the spectacle of Israelis sitting down to picnic and generally having a good time with friends, food and drinks atop a hill while watching the misnamed Israeli Defence Force pummeling the hapless inhabitants of Gaza — there was something deeply inhuman about it but I just couldn’t quite put my finger on it until I learnt that far from being an abominable act, an enormity, it was for them actually a virtuous one, an act of piety. So thank you the Saker for publishing both; you’ve done your humble reader a great service.
Sderot cinema:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing
“More than Israel needs the US, the US needs Israel. Because it is a global interest. It is the ongoing struggle between Russia and US; it’s about natural resources; about oil; about the world fight against terror.”
A grain of truth there from this Zionist sow about the struggle between Russia and the US. A pathetic attempt at clumsy propaganda too — Israel doesn’t “need” the US, it owns the US.
“… the fact that the Jewish state was established, and even before this, the fact that the Jewish pioneers came from all over the world and began to revive the holy land of Israel once again, which was a desolate country at the end of the Ottoman Empire” says the zionist woman.
These pictures seem to dispute her words;
https://www.businessinsider.com/palestine-in-the-19th-century-pictures-2013-10
Tell me again, Who made the desert bloom?
https://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/news/2010/03/palestinians-made-the-desert-bloom.html
Poetry for Palestine; Rising Above;
https://nahidaexiledpalestinian.com/2013/07/10/rising-above-3/
“What if the people speaking out against the Jews as a tribe are not doing it out of hate?
What if they’ve discovered that this tribe has seized control of positions of power and influence to enforce a self serving global Jewish agenda?
What if they are doing it because they see the plight of humanity with all of its wars, poverty and unnecessary suffering?
What if they’re trying to awaken you to this out of love and compassion and you’re mistaking it for hatred and racism?”
A Time to Cry – A Lament Over Jerusalem – Rim Banna;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH0u77qzMcs
Greetings siljan,
Thanks very much for the links. Bookmarked them all. Rim Banna’s lament belies a powerful human spirit and is particularly moving.
Thanks again.
Stand Easy,
You’re welcome. Glad you found them interesting. The silence in the West in the face of these daily crimes the Palestinian people are subject to is very sad. I think the reason people don’t care or are ignorant is the fact that the media is owned by the same tribe who are doing the oppressing. Everything we read, see or hear about ‘Israel’ and the world in general has to go through that filter first. And they have a way of turning the truth on its head, having you believe that the jews are the victims and the Palestinians the opressors.
If you speak out against the IDF butchery in Palestine you are labeled an anti-semite, objecting to wars, porn and transgender promotion is hate speech and or holocaust denial.
“The truth about the conflict with Russia” (wouldn’t you know it – it involves the same tribe again…!!);
https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/03/17/the-truth-about-the-conflict-with-russia/
St. Paul The Apostle says in 1 Thess. 2: 14-15 “…the jews who both killed the Lord Jesus and the Prophets and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all men”
You don’t hear that verse from the Bible quoted very often.
St. Paul The Apostle says in 1 Thess. 2: 14-15 “…the jews who both killed the Lord Jesus and the Prophets and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all men”
You don’t hear that verse from the Bible quoted very often.
Absolutely true. Christians and Muslims suffer the same depredations in Occupied Palestine; they get spat at by pious Jews, beliefs they hold dear and sacred insulted. Perhaps that’s why the concept of a “Judeo-Christian” worldview pushed by the nominally Christian West is a bit strange and a puzzle to me.
Cheers.
Do you understand now why there are millions of people in Russia who claim they consider now themselves Slavic pagans?
Slavic paganism is coming back big time!
Nobody will consider Bible as authority once when the ruling religion is paganism, aka nature worship.
Slava Perunu!
There are millions of useful idiots in Russia who consider themselves ‘Slavic pagans’. They certainly are the unwitting ‘fellow travelers’ of the anti-Orthodox (anti-Russian) ‘fifth column’.
This lady does not know her Bible very well. Even in the Old Testament, God was exhorting the Israelis to share the land and be generous to the “stranger”. Those who like to use the Bible to promote their dream of “Greater Israel” should take note of the following important guideline:
‘You will divide it [the land] by lot as an inheritance for yourselves, and for the strangers who sojourn among you and who bear children among you. They shall be to you as native-born among the children of Israel; they shall have an inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. And it shall be that in whatever tribe the stranger sojourns, there you shall give him his inheritance,’ says the Lord GOD. (Ezekiel 47:22-23)
It’s bad enough that the Palestinians have had to become “strangers” in their own land; now they’re being oppressed and driven out, contrary to God’s own directions. People such as this lady who mistakenly think the Almighty has permitted their aggressive, bullying stance against the Palestinians will get a rude surprise one of these days. You reap what you sow.
The Old Testament has been purposefully edited and distorted. It is the furthest thing from the word of God.
According to the Old Testament, Moses was a murderer, David was an adulterer, and Abraham was in the habit of pimping his wife.
If this is how the holiest men, the heroes of your culture are portrayed, is it any wonder that Israelis kill Palestinians, operate child brothels in Colombia, and gang rape British tourists in Cyprus?
In my opinion, Moses, David and Abraham did no such things. The Old Testament was rewritten and falsified by the enemy to turn the Jews into wicked men. If it had not been distorted, what need would there have been for Christ the Reformer?
Dear Jamshyd, I appreciate that you are grieved with the attitudes and actions of the modern state of Israel. But to fine-tune what you say about the Old Testament being rewritten, falsified, and distorted, I think Michael Hoffman’s September 21 article explains clearly where that distortion and deception actually exists – in the endless commentaries, teachings, and opinions of Talmudic rabbis, against whom Jesus and the apostles gave stern warning in Matthew 23 and elsewhere in the New Testament.
The Old Testament books are considered, even by secular scholars, to be genuine historical documents, authenticated in several instances by archaeological finds, linguistic integrity, and so on. What I like about them, they do not whitewash the faults and foibles of their heroes and kings, as was the common practice in the official documents of surrounding nations.
These men and women weren’t sinless saints, but normal people like you and me. I guess you could say their faith and love for God enabled them to rise above their own human nature and do the kind of exploits for which we like to remember them. But they were ordinary people, weak at times, and the Biblical accounts do not try to hide those facts.
I haven’t murdered, committed adultery, or pimped out my wife. These are not normal human foibles, they are horrendous crimes.
Who are these scholars who claim the Old Testament books haven’t been rewritten in over two thousand years?
You haven’t? I doubt it. Have you look lustfiully at a woman who is not your wife? Have you ever told a lie? Etc.
That almost sounds like an insult, Simon.
The Old Testament says that David, King of the Jews, saw Bathsheba, the wife of a soldier in his army named Uriah the Hittite, and looked upon her with lust while she was bathing, had her brought to him, impregnated her, then called Uriah back from the war so that he would sleep with her and believe the child was his own. Uriah wouldn’t do it. So David had him murdered.
David lusted, committed adultery and fornication, attempted to deceive and lie, and murdered.
Simon, sweetheart, I’m afraid I cannot claim to have ever committed such a vile, hideous act. David takes the gold.
@Old Testament being rewritten, falsified, and distorted
This is the unfortunate argument of the Islamists: all Scriptures used by the Christians are falsifications of some scriptures whose ‘real’ content is known only by them. It is the Talmudic attack against the New Testament taken to its logical conclusion that the Talmudists didn’t dare to draw: the OT which is the prophecy of the Incarnation of the Son of God, is ‘falsified’.
The Talmudists franchised the Islamists to carry on the attack when they co-opted them into the ‘Abrahamic religion’.
Read the Old Testament, then read the poetry of Omar Khayyam, Rumi or Hafez.
The Old Testament can easily be duplicated by a modern person.
There is no way you can write poetry like Khayyam. No one has yet. His depth of understanding is shocking for one thousand years ago, let alone his arrangement of words.
Poetry has always been the language of the divine, since before any of the modern religions even existed, because the common man cannot duplicate and falsify it.
There is nothing in the Old Testament that has impressed or shocked me, except the outrageous immorality of the heroes.
Speaking about OT and poetry, have you ever read the Psalms, or the Song of Songs? They were not tavern songs.
I wouldn’t expect a non-Persian to understand. Song is not poetry. Poetry has rhyme, and something we call ‘weight’. In any rhyming couplet of Rumi one notices that each line of a particular verse has the same weight as its accompanying line.
If you change a word in such poetry, the weight will be off, even if it still rhymes, a trained ear will immediately notice that the verse does not sound right.
In any case, I don’t think there has ever been any argument over the uniqueness and extraordinary brilliance of the poetry of Khayyam, Hafiz, Sadi, Rumi, Ferdowsi, etc. They speak for themselves. As does the Old Testament.
There was a Door to which I found no Key:
There was a Veil through which I could not see: Some little Talk awhile of Me and Thee
There seemed — and then no more of Thee and Me.
One Moment in Annihilation’s Waste,
One moment, of the Well of Life to taste–
The Stars are setting, and the Caravan
Starts for the dawn of Nothing–Oh, make haste!
You, my friend, have very little time left, like all of us. Don’t waste your time with nonsense. Every moment of life is a miracle, valuable beyond measurement. Use it well.
And, as the Cock crew, those who stood before
The Tavern shouted — “Open then the Door!
“You know how little while we have to stay,
“And, once departed, may return no more.”
Much love, J
I see countless posters in today’s “woke” world talk about the horror of the American colonial settlements.Those also of the Spanish,English,Portuguese,French,and Dutch.Though here we like to rant over the English part the most.How the Native Americans were driven from the land,over and over again.How they were mistreated and killed.And likewise with Australia and New Zealand with the native peoples there.And somehow in these posts there is the implied message that if that was modern times we wouldn’t stand by and do nothing about stopping it.Well guess what all you modern ,today’s world people.You can see it happening right now in your lifetime in Palestine.So to all the talkers,what are you doing to stop it. Oh yeah,that’s right ,nothing.Just like if you lived in the 16,17,18,19th centuries ,you wouldn’t do anything.You don’t do anything in the 21st century either,when it is right before your eyes.
All my life the Israelis have been murdering Palestinians,stealing their land,crushing them under an apartheid system that even the nazis would approve of. The lock that the Israelis,their American Jewish,and Christian Zionist minions,have over the US.Is so strong that there is little any one person can do to stop them.In some of the bigger countries in Europe its much the same way.Though some of the people there try hard.In the smaller countries they just don’t care.Sadly,in Russia and China,except for once and a while a crocodile tear or two,that’s all they care too.And the Muslim world is the worse,except for Iran and Turkey,and Malaysia,they hardly care either.The worse dregs of all are the other Arab states,who disgrace themselves by doing nothing for Palestinians. Except betraying them in a few cases.No,for all the big talk,just like with the colonial days,in today’s world nobody with the ability to help will.Only some of us powerless ones care.
The Iranian government cares, and it is not powerless. I would argue that Iran is the most militarily capable nation in the world today, as far as boots on the ground results are concerned.
The Iranian resistance will liberate Palestine, or die trying.
I believe the Bible she refers to is the Scofield Bible, the most used bible by christian zionests. Scofield’s comments hav been used by Zionests for years as actual quotes from actual verse, which they are not. But as I am not a bible scholar may-hap someone else would further enlighten her on her mistaken idea the Scofields comments are scripture.
Well Bob, spread the word……lets start by calling the ‘spade’ what it is, what is it Bob, why it’s Occupied Palestine, referering to it (that which can’t be spoken, their game) by it’s UN mandated name ligitimizes the illigitimate. That’s were it starts, not taking credit…….but it wasn’t until 3 or 4 years ago when I began using the term Occupied Palestine, reading posts on blogs, no one else called it that………go to some liberal blogs (small ‘l’) like this one, many people now call it what it is………….again, for effect, Occupied Palestine. It rolls of the tounge so sweet, it can make faces scrunch up, much fun I can assure you. Oh, and you can’t be fined or jailed anywhere on the planet atm for calling or critcizing it as Occupied Palestine.
For the record, a family friend spent 5 years in the company of the PLO, solitary confinement, someone here recently plugged his book. Now, for a juxtiposition read Bobby Sands, Letters from Prision then Brian’s book, see if you can spot the difference.
As for Brutish Colonial rape, torture, murder and pillage of the native populations, stop by the Old Sod sometime, someone there will show you where it all started. Round tower ovens anyone. Death, not a smack on the hands, for speaking the ‘native’ tounge…………Hunger Games, in real time.
Cheers, M
Dividing the land of the covenant is the stated trigger for the end times sequence and so it will be
The state of israel? Hello? Bible!? says What? Wow ,she blabs on like a foolish woman, doesn’t she?
Only Jews have rights. Only Jews are human. Only Jews have souls. The rest, the goyim, are just donkeys, insects, put on the earth to serve the master race of the Jews. Every Jew will be given 2,800 goy slaves on the return of the Messiah. And they’ve got the Bronze Age Mumbo Jumbo to prove it.
Reducing the Bible to a real estate document and God to a real estate broker is definitively the triumph of perversity.
cecil rhodes was asked to come to palestine to stamp his colonial authority for israel. he declined. but the attitude of colonisation still exists. submit or die .or just die. assimilation to be second class or be excluded. the connection between genociders and a justifying religions guiding hand, is well trod.
Jews admit to themselves their bible has no validity.
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/were-jews-ever-really-slaves-in-egypt-1.5208519
From what I understand most Palestinians have the same DNA as the Jews of Israel so what is the problem with them having their own lands there ?
The Old Testament of the Bible says of lot of things – many that arent true but inaccurate.
Such as the flood of Noah occurred 5000 years ago when it was 13000 years ago and the Ark’s remains are on the slopes of the Mountains Ararat in Eastern Turkey today.
Scholars have found in recent times the text of the Bible has been altered at various times and many Books of it edited out (eg Book of Enoch), so given this the literal meaning has to be questioned.
It’s all blood, smoke, and mirrors Santiago. If you have searched these things out for yoursel,you would know the truth and you’d be free. The Playbook….uuuh,I mean bible, spells it out in Revelation. The present Basileus/Rulership of the Holy Land is the eighth King which goes to it’s destruction. It knows it, and the lost sheep of the children of Israel know it. Churches don’t know their own roots.
What does th bibile say? My understanding is that the God of Israel left them to their choice of serving the Roman Cult. There should be no state of Israel on the map. I know the books are heavily manipulated, especially through translation, misinterpretation and ancient tradition by the Cults that killed the Christians. The dispersed people of God will return to Jerusalem, when the time is here for that. Who, or what triggered the National Homeland for the Jews, is of the Adversary. There is no God on Israel’s side, just world power. The European Beast saw fit to fulfill prophesy by deceiving the whole world, and raining fire from the sky, upon any and all who SEE THE TRUTH. There is nothing in Jerusalem Worthy of Peace.
Well, she has to reeducate herself, but I do not think she is interested.
The Walls Come Tumblin’ Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wNyDP5N1HU
The Walls Come Tumblin’ Down 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvNBlQgsvEE
Remember the Hebrus in the area were converted Greeks who were perfectly familiar with Greek Mythology which said that the city of Jericho was blown into rubble by two brothers who used instrument sound to force the walls into vibration and collapse the walls.
This was a pure science, of which the Greeks of those days were perfectly aware of. After the event they named the city Ierosichos (Holly Echo) known today as Jericho. This fact happened thousands of years before the Hebrews even existed (Their beginning is 1200BC by some 900BC by other records) to create the fake story in the Hebrew bible (OT aka Torah).
Final
Moses never existed. An ancient fictional Jewish biblical personality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGFu5ydEl58
Daniella Weiss has made her wishes for the Palestinians, Jordanians, and Syrians perfectly clear. She thinks that they should just die, and get out of the invaders way.
The amount of lies told by her in this article was staggering. In fact it was nearly all lies.
Dissecting the article and each claim that she made would be the equivalent of dissecting the Cat in the Hat to prove that it was fiction.
What do you say to such brazen insanity and utter nonsense?
Andrea Iravani
The Bible could be interpreted to say Palestine is for the Jews, but then again as Jesus himself pointed out before the preists in the temple as written in the Gospels, it was the moneychanger Jews that wrote the old testament bible.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/hadrian.htm
Most Jews within the Roman Empire were NOT exiles from Judaea, nor were they descendants of exiles. Although, in consequence of the Jewish wars, trouble-makers were enslaved in considerable numbers and elite elements fled or were exiled from their homeland, the majority of Jews (Judaeans) peasant farmers in the main remained in Siria Palestinia. Rome had neither the means nor the desire to exile an entire population (and hence such a migration appears nowhere in Roman or Jewish histories). In later centuries they were to be increasingly oppressed by Byzantine Christians and in consequence welcomed the armies of Islam in the 7th century. Gradually, these Jews converted to the new faith and became Palestinians (something acknowledged by the first Zionists).
https://www.fort-russ.com/2019/02/israel-the-right-to-exist/
If there were Jews who were enslaved by, or fled Roman rule, there were many, many more who stayed in what was no longer ‘Judea’ but what became Roman ruled Palaestina, renamed by the Roman Emperor Hadrian. Where are those ancient Jewish people’s descendants today? They’re in Palestine and they’re called Palestinians. [4] The inconvenience for the modern Ashkenazi and associated ‘historic’ claim to a Jewish state is, most of these indigenous people had, with passing time, converted to Islam. Any ‘Jewish’ right, claim and/or title to a geographic state of Israel prior to the creation of the UN would have traced (and ultimately become extinguished) through the Palestinian people.
But check this out. Relying on the jewish bible is nuts.
https://www.evilbible.com
I have a book I wrote that says GOD says Israel must be eliminated from the Planet.
GOD said it … I just wrote it down for him because he did not have a pen.