Besides the apparently devastating attack on a Ukie armored column, there are several important development which have recently taken place which I feel must be reported here:
Alexander Khodakovskii |
1) With Strelkov’s return to Donetsk, order and unity of command in the Resistance forces have apparently been restored and the disagreements between Strelkov and Alexander Khodakovskii (ex-commander of the Donetsk “Alpha” unit) settled.
2) In a joint press conference, Igor Strelkov , Alexander Borodai and Vladimir Antiufeev (respectively in charge of military, political and state security affairs) have announced the formation of a council of military commanders which will be in charge of all the military units in Novorussia. At the same press conference they also announced a large (voluntary) evacuation of civilians from the suburbs of Donetsk. Clearly the city is preparing itself for a major attack followed by a siege.
3) A fierce dispute has taken place between Igor Strelkov and Sergei Kurginian who accused Strelkov of abandoning Slaviansk and who claimed that the Novorussians were now receiving much more and much better aid from Russia than before. While Borodai accused Kurginian of spreading Ukie or US propaganda, I personally believe that Kurdinian’s role is to reassure the Russian public that enough had been done by the Russian civil society (nobody has ever mentioned any aid from the Russian government). Whatever may be the case, Alexander Borodai settled the dispute when he reported that his consultations in Moscow were “very successful, and I am very much counting on the assistance of the Russian Federation in the nearest possible future. As it is, the Russian people, at present, are already providing colossal assistance to us, both in terms of volunteers and in terms of humanitarian aid. I expect that this assistance will continue to grow“. Clearly, some kind of deal has been struck between the Novorussia leaders and the Kremlin, though of course the details will remain secret and the assistance presented as one of the “Russian people” as opposed to the Russian government (-: though one could, of course, wonder why Borodai needed consultations in Moscow to get assistance from the Russian people :-)
Vladimir Antiufeev |
4) The Ukies have apparently been reinforcing their artillery on the border with Crimea, but the consensus is that while these systems have the range to strike at Crimean towns, the Russian response to that would be as swift and as devastating as to make such a move suicidal for the Ukies. The Russian military has been steadily and rapidly reinforcing its capabilities in Crimea which now include total airspace coverage by the latest version of the S-300 air defense systems and a redeployment of Russian fighter-bombers. Even the usually soft-spoken Sergei Lavrov has delivered a blunt warning saying that he would not advise anybody to try to attack Crime as Russia would retaliate.
5) The Ukrainian Air Force continues to lose aircraft on a regular basis, today again a Ukie Su-25 was shot down near Lugansk.
6) In another interesting recent development, Igor Strelkov announced that from now on the soldiers fighting for the Novorussian military would be paid a salary which is more than adequate by Ukrainian norms. Clearly another sign that “somebody” is now financing the Resistance.
My guess is that Poroshenko will declare that the Grad MLRS who today destroyed much of the 79th Brigade were firing from Russia. The first reason why I believe that he will say this is that this will allow him and, more importantly, his US bosses to re-ignite the russophobic hysteria. The second reason is that if these Grads were in Russia, then those Ukie units who are away from the Russian border are in relative safety. But if these Grads were fired by the Resistance from Novorussia, that would mean that any and all Ukie units in Novorussia could potentially become the target of such strikes.
Whatever may be the case, we have one of two options here: either the Russian finally decided to give the Ukies a little taste of their own medicine, while at the same time making them pay for the numerous attacks on Russian border posts, or the Resistance really did get their hands on enough Grads to carry out such an attack. In that case it is pretty darn obvious were these Grads came from, even though, of course, nobody will admit anything.
Is the Russian border with the Ukraine porous? Yes, of course. But not to the point that convoys of MLRS’ could cross it without the knowledge and agreement of the Russian government. Could Strelkov and his forces have “nationalized” some money from seizing Kolomoiskii’s banks? Yes, of course. But not enough to pay for a war. Could Russian volunteers (including Russian oligarchs) have sent money to help the Novorussians? Yes, of course, but not without the FSB knowing and allowing it. So what we are witnessing is clearly the following: the Russian *government* is not sending any “official” military assistance to Novorussia, but instead it is the Russian *society* which, with the full knowledge and blessing of the Russian government, is doing it. Hence the happy smile on Borodai’s face when he spoke about this “consultations” in Moscow.
Is the Kremlin taking a big risk with this strategy? I don’t think so. Since that aid is small enough it offers what the CIA calls “plausible deniability”, but since it is continuous enough, it is sufficient to make a crucial difference. Furthermore, all that the Kremlin is *really* doing is not impeding assistance, this is a passive position which can easily be explained away “we try”, “it is hard”, “you know our corruption problems” etc.
Finally, I will hazard a guess. My feeling is that the Atlantic Integrationists in the Kremlin and around it are not happy at all with the aid Russia is providing and that there is a pretty good chance that Putin is using his old contacts with the secret services to get things done. When I look at the latest actions of Strelkov, Borodai and Antiufeev I do get a strong sense that this recent “consolidation” of power has a very typical “KGB feel” to it. Not that this is a bad thing in present circumstances.
Strelkov, Borodai, Antiufeev |
There is a word in Russian which is hard to translate but which more or less means “near/around the Kremlin circles” (околокремлевские круги). This basically refers to the “silent” pro-Putin power base which has a great deal of political influence but is not formally part of the government structure. These circles – who are the bane of the Russian liberals – have access to the Kremlin, and support the President, but are not formally part of the Presidential Administration, Government or any other state entity and thus they cannot be formally controlled by anybody except the FSB, of course. My sense is that these circles, which are fiercely anti-US and anti-Nazi, have informally organized themselves to create a network of assistance to Novorussia. One should never under estimate the power and capabilities of these circles. For example, under the pro-US Eltisin regime, they not only organized a covert assistance to Transdniestria, they even had the means to charter their own military aircraft to fly there with no need for identification to anybody at any point during the trip. I know that because I myself have been offered to participate in such a flight and I was told that “we will just give you a uniform and nobody will ask any questions”. That was in 1993. I can just imagine what these guys can do today now that they have access to the Kremlin…
What kind of people can one find in these circles? Military men, of course, mostly ex-special forces, FSB officers who don’t bother denying it, GRU officers who will deny it to their last breath, but also businessmen, journalists and even some “entrepreneurs” who are more or less connected to the Russian mob. This is an eclectic mix of idealists and folks who know that this the “shadow power” of these circles can also be very useful for their own interests.
In conclusion I will say that while all of the above is definitely good news, this is very very far from over. The Atlantic Integrationists are still powerful, Putin openly spoke about a “5th column”, and they will resist with everything they have. As for Putin, he is engaged in a difficult and dangerous balancing act where anything that goes wrong will be blamed personally on him. He understands that and tries hard to appear as removed from the nitty-gritty of the combats in Novorussia as possible. His opponents also understand that with this war in Novorussia they have a perfect opportunity to weaken him or even discredit him, but this time from an apparently “patriotic” position (as the pro-US position right now is basically a non-starter). To simplify this to the extreme I would say that this struggle involved “big money vs secret services” and that so far, at least, the latter seemed to have gain control of the situation, which is good for Novorussia. But that still could very much change depending on the evolution of the situation.
The Saker
UNCONFIRMED:
Up to 20 tanks, APCs enter Ukraine from Russia last night, witnesses say
Sooner or later, I expect the Ukies to attack Crimea at the behest of the United States. Why would they stop the provocations now? The ultimate US goal I suppose is to ignite a new cold war, using the Ukies as sacrificial pawns to meet this strategic goal. Why the Ukies are stupid enough to fall for this after seeing what the US did to the Kurds in Iraq etc etc etc is anybody’s guess.
The trouble is that events are unpredictable and a cold war can become a hot one from very simple mistakes.
Saker,
Could you give us a list of the Atlantists-Big Business who are the fifth column working against the national aspirations of RF and undermining Putin at every opportunity?
Putin has declared that they exist as a fifth column. He must be working to rid himself of their presence in Moscow. Will an example be made of an arrest or a premature ending for one or two of them?
He seems to have used that “touch” in the past.
I expect by summer’s end something that put’s the fear of God into that group and simultaneously disrupts the new U.S. Ambassador’s plans for a Moscow Maidan will be in the news.
Putin warns, warns a second time, then decisively acts. That’s his pattern.
I look forward to more information in detail on this topic. Maybe you have sources inside Russia who can deliver some articles you can publish that fills in our education on the topic.
Keep at it. The Vineyard is a treasure for truth-seekers.
Meanwhile Putin is busy building bridges in US’s backyard. He’s taking the long view, and putting it into action.
Russia just wrote off 90% of Cuba’s debt – $32 beeelion – to USSR. What will they get in return? Perhaps access to all the gulf oil that Cuba’s sitting on? A radar base? Let’s see how the US feels with Russia cozying up to *its* borders – payback’s a bitch.
He’s also evidently getting S. American countries on board with the idea of abandoning the US$.
Interesting times ahead.
@EVERYBODY: I put the word “brigade” in quotation marks for a reason: first, these are not real, US-like, brigades, but much smaller units which used to be a brigade and which have retained the denomination. Juan can correct me, but a Ukie armored brigade is probably something on the same scale as a Russian tank battalion.
Cheers,
The Saker
Yatsenyuk has evidently just announced A Big Sale of All Things Ukraine .
Perhaps… this was the idea all along.
:-(
3) A fierce dispute has taken place between Igor Strelkov and Sergei Kurginian who accused Strelkov of abandoning Slaviansk and who claimed that the Novorussians were now receiving much more and much better aid from Russia than before.
I wouldn’t call it a dispute between Strelkov and Kurginian, since Strelkov did not really participate in it. It was more Kurginian (and supporters) vs Strelkov’s supporters.
And whatever Kurginian might have meant, he did not communicate it well (or at all). His speech was almost universally perceived as an attempt to undermine Strelkov (at the least appropriate time). Kurginian’s fans have certainly taken it to mean that and started attacking Strelkov’s decision and, by extension, Strelkov himself. Which in turn made the other side very angry (though Strelkov himself seems largely unconcerned). Hopefully the whole thing will die down soon.
Gayle:
Yes, that would be tit for tat, which would make sense.
Another phenomenon one might want to look out for is the revival of the Occupy Wall Street movement. Of course it’s much more difficult to build with all the NSA police state methods in use.
Best wishes
Anonymous in Finland
Whatever may be the case, we have one of two options here: either the Russian finally decided to give the Ukies a little taste of their own medicine, while at the same time making them pay for the numerous attacks on Russian border posts, or the Resistance really did get their hands on enough Grads to carry out such an attack.
How many Grads would be required?
One thing I’ve noticed from this Is a healthy assertion of civil authority. Novorussiyan resistance is not the mercenary interlopers claimed by the lying corporate propaganda of the west and Kiev, or the dictatorship of war lords one would expect to find in Central Asia or Africa
It is very common for big power to have an official position while giving a blind eyes to the support given by non government entities or individuals. The USA has been doing that routinely in all the areas they wanted to ‘liberate’. Russia can always say that it cannot control the flow of funds and weapons sent by individuals to the East Ukranians and therefore bears no responsibility in this.
The international community must bring proofs if they want to legally indict Russia. Until now they have symptoms but not proofs.
Saker,
I’m a bit shell-shocked from your recent posts. This latest seems designed to support everything Kiev and the US have been claiming – that the Kremlin is indeed supporting Novorossiya by military and financial means, and Putin’s denials are thus so many lies.
If that’s the truth, then of course you are right to publish it, but I cannot imagine anything more damaging to Putin. I’ll admit I’m a little disturbed at the realization I may myself have been no more than a ‘useful idiot’ but my own feelings don’t matter when the stakes are this high.
I’ve always imagined the Novorossiyan claims of Kremlin help are only a way of pressuring Putin into giving real military help on the grounds that he might as well ‘be hanged for a sheep as a lamb’. But you think they’re true?
I don’t say Putin wouldn’t be justified in helping, only that he has been at great pains to assure the world that he isn’t. Whatever his plan is or was, a post like this presented publicly on the net tears a hole in it the size of Novorossiya itself.
Like I said. Shell-shocked.
Which areas are included in Novorussia now?
Is it just Donetsk and Lugansk or will it also include Kharkiv and the land to and including Odessa?
Is it just Donetsk and Lugansk in upheaval now?
Any information on the other parts is appreciated.
Is this a joke?
MOSCOW, July 11. /ITAR-TASS/. Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services has revised its outlook on Ukraine to stable from negative and affirmed its ‘CCC/C’ long-and short-term foreign currency sovereign credit ratings and ‘B-/B’ long- and short-term local currency sovereign credit ratings on Ukraine, the agency reported Friday.
“The stable outlook reflects our view that the $17 billion two-year International Monetary Fund (IMF) program adopted in April 2014 has helped stabilize the deteriorating macroeconomic situation in Ukraine,” S&P said. “However, we consider that significant risk attends full disbursement of funds under the program.”
“These risks include the impact of the conflict in Eastern Ukraine on the country’s territorial integrity and available resources, the difficult and unpredictable relationship with Russia, and the deepening recession,” it said.”
What kind of crack are these guys smoking?
The same crack those people at amnesty intl are smoking
@Gayle — Yes. Russia writing-off Cuba’s debt is HUGE news. As Americans are drowning in debt and can’t find jobs — this is something that will make people think. Smart move by Putin.
Saker — What was the problem between Strelkov and Khodakovsky? Khodakovsky doesn’t LOOK trustworthy. Maybe its his years in the Ukie Secret Service. That usually means he was part of the Oligarchs team. Is he a mole? Is he a Khazar? Maybe Strelkov doesn’t want to deal with moles or khazars.
Great posts today by the way. Your site is becoming the “go-to” spot for intelligent analysis and information on Ukraine. Rand is likely printing out your STIRUPS on their letter head and emailing them to CIA-DOS as the daily brief. Don’t laugh. Likely true.
Saker God bless you for keeping this up … and for carrying many of us to this point where we can feel optimistic again, and that you were likely right to not give up hope in Putin. You’ve done what US leftist candidate Jesse Jackson said when he ran for USA President in 1988 … ‘Keep hope alive … keep hope alive …’
It’s been difficult to see clearly, with innocents and brave ones having died in Novorossiya, amid a feeling many of us have had, that President Putin maybe failed them and failed the world.
Long before the US-backed neo-Nazi putsch in Kiev, Brandon Smith of Alt-Market published some articles, globally prominent on ZeroHedge, arguing that Putin was ‘fake opposition’, a man who met with goons like Henry Kissinger etc., so a man who would, at a crucial point, betray his people to the West and to their globalist chaos. Smith seemed wrong to me at first, but recently I was haunted by fears he was prescient and right, as Putin seemed to give more aid to Syria & Iraq than Novorossiya.
Your arguments that Putin might be tactical & strategic, but not a sell-out, seemed over-eager at times … like the desperate belief in the West in the CIA’s blatant liar and faker Edward Snowden … the laughable anti-9-11-truth fraud whose 1st chosen ‘brave journalist’ to receive ‘stolen espionage documents’ was Dick Cheney’s CIA-tied biographer at the Washington Post, ha! Amazingly blatant fraud, but much of the world lapped up ‘Snowden’.
We all need heroes, and Putin has been, for many of us, a fine hero … and a much better ‘European’ (in the sense of the ideals of justice and Enlightenment) than the Nato stooges. What a joy if that turns out not to be wrong.
– For those unfamiliar with what Moscow realised some time ago, that Edward Snowden is an active CIA liar and faker trying to terrorise the world, promote CIA media, crush 11 Sep 2001 truth, and maybe entrap real dissidents who conduct his CIA-fake ‘journalists’ –
‘Russia gov FSB SVR report, Snowden Greenwald are CIA frauds pt1’
http://homment.com/3K3xdsYD7a
Russia gov FSB SVR report, Snowden Greenwald are CIA frauds
A lot of pro-American casualties today . . .
Just saw a headline about rockets being fired at Israel from Lebanon. Could be a false flag to provide the Israeli’s with an excuse to attack Lebanon, and possibly Syria. It’s the sort of thing they would do under “cover” of their war crimes in Gaza and with their quislings operation in Iraq.
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Great analysis as always Saker,thank you for that.
Today’s successes on the battlefield certainly helped to change the perceptions created by the loss of Slavyansk,and teach Kiev’s forces another good lesson.
As you rightly point out,the most encouraging news came from Donetsk and the apparent normalization of the situation among the various factions of the fledgling Novorusian state structures.Also,from what I gather,the numbers of volunteers in the Donbass army is rising-and today’s events will likely boost them even more.
On more practical terms,I was wondering what is your tactical assessment concerning Poroshenko’s future moves on the battlefield?I guess they will keep pushing,trying to encircle the regions around Donetsk and Lugansk,but I find it hard to believe they will attempt to attack both simultaneously.Probably the focus will be on Lugansk but its proximity to the Russian border makes things more complicated-even if its garrison is arithmetically inferior and the city more difficult to defend than Donetsk.Finally,about the notion of attacking Crimea,I think it is just posturing meant for internal consumption..No one in his right mind would ever attempt it..
Again great job sir,keep it up!
A Greek patriot..
The 5th column that is against Putin
http://www.currentconcerns.ch/index.php?id=362
And Putins’ 5th column in the West
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/vladimir-putins-fifth-column-in-the-west/article19021604/
Saker,
A video of this attack is available at liveleak.com, maybe you listening the accent you can identified the attackes.
L
Well if war is diplomacy by other means; then likewise diplomacy is war with its own rules and regulations…Putin is touring Latin America for very good reasons. He was sitting at the Olympics in China when the Georgians started their nonsensical war so he sees the patterns of history. The industrial military complex in the US is a closed system which crushes creativity, feedback and logic ( note their boondoggle military planes which cost billions and don’t work, just like their wars). It is painful to watch these idiots think that they can keep this system going by taking on Russia–it will lead them to the dustbin of history even more quickly. And they fool no one. Smart move, Russia, exposing the US spies in the Germany. Greed vs. principles–people do not sacrifice for greed.
Gleb Bazov translated the leaked conversations about the Timoshenko linked traffic in human organs out of the Ukraine. He conversations together and with his translation, they are much easier to understand now.
Hacked Facebook Correspondence Indicates a Burgeoning Trade in Organs of Ukrainian Soldiers
http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/2014/07/06/hacked-facebook-correspondence-indicates-a-burgeoning-trade-in-organs-of-ukrainian-soldiers/
“Sergey Vlasenko and Olga Wieber
February 22, 2014
22.02.2014 20:44 – SV: “Good evening, Olga. The question we discussed in Waldkirch should soon be resolved; on my side the situation is in order. How are your clients?”
22.02.2014 20:48 – OW: “Hello! This is good, and right in time! There are plenty of customers! They are really interested to find out when’s the time? But they refused to add anymore, just like I told you; later, if we are lucky …”
22.02.2014 20:50 – SV: “They aren’t Jews, but behave the same … But, judging from the plan on the top, new deliveries will start in the first days of March.”
22.02.2014 20:51 – OW: “It will suit most of them. There is one here, keeps pushing for a delivery in five days.”
22.02.2014 20:51 – SV: “We’ll have to wait – we can’t be moving them one by one, can we???”
22.02.2014 20:57 – OW: “Fine, better remind me, who will you send for the removal?”
22.02.2014 20:58 – SV: “We can’t count on the locals; these “moralists” are very hard to convince, damn them!!! So, we’ll have to use your employees; perhaps I’ll get the Israelis to come…”
22.02.2014 20:59 – OW: “My employees will only add to the costs! I will visit you on Tuesday, as promised, and we’ll decide them, there will still be time.”
22.02.2014 21:03 – SV: “Understood; call me then.”
22.02.2014 21:03 – OW: “Till we meet.”
June 8, 2014
08.06.2014 12:42 – OW: “Hi. I could not call you yet; at least I got you here … A new order: 13 cor, 55 nep, 30 hep, 15 pan, 3 pul.”
08.06.2014 12:43 – SV: “Sure, once we get the Israeli one done, we’ll send it right away.”
08.06.2014 12:43 – OW: “Waiting.”
From those conversations, it is obvious the Israelis are involved in the human organ traffic from the Ukraine. It looks like they “subcontracted” the procurement business to these people in the conversations.
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I disagree with this statement:
“The second reason is that if these Grads were in Russia, then those Ukie units who are away from the Russian border are in relative safety. “
If the Grads were in Russia, and after Poroshenko’s accusation they stop firing, then it is an admission of guilt by the Russians and proves Poroshenko’s accusation right.
If they continue firing then it means that it weren’t the Russians. Because would the Russians be still firing after they got caught? Common sense says “no”.
Ergo it’s best for the Russians to ignore Poroshenko and keep firing.
@alberridge:Whatever his plan is or was, a post like this presented publicly on the net tears a hole in it the size of Novorossiya itself.
Nonsense. First, everybody who matters knows and has known about this. Second, all I did is use open sources and fact which were acknowledged by specialists a long time ago (like the near/around Kremlin circles). Third, if tomorrow I write that not a single penny or bullet came from Russia, will that attach a huge chuck of Ukie controlled territory to Novorussia? Fourth, did you notice that NOBODY made a claim that the Russian government is doing anything. But to refute the fact that *in my opinion* the Russian civil society is acting with the Kremlin’s tacit approval is easy: just say that *in your opinion* that is not true.
Seriously, there is no doubt in mind mind that the western powers know what is taking place, and they are pissed because they cannot prove it. Also, since Poroshenko clearly acts on Uncle Sam’s advice alone, I would not be surprised if Merkel and Hollande sort of gave a nod to Putin with the message “ok, let them try to win this one”.
Please understand that there is nothing operational in what I wrote. You can call it all *pure speculations* and be correct. With the entire MSM lying faster than it can speak, and with the total denial of reality in the Ukie media, one blog somewhere on the blogosphere is just that, one blog. Nobody cares what one guy with zero access to privileged information thinks, and neither should they. I don’t speak from any authority. I just think out loud, if you want, share my musings with others. Those wanting to prove something need to look elsewhere :-)
So no worries, I assure you.
Cheers,
The Saker
What is this with the Ukrainian public being apparently unable to distinguish between combatants and non-combatants? They seem to consider that wiping out an armoured column in a field is a good excuse to raze Donetsk to the ground. You do not want to be annihilated? – You take protective measures and do not camp out like tourists when the enemy has artillery and Grads. An armoured column is a fair target by any rules. Civilians are not.
It was exactly the same with shooting down that military transport Il-76 (after giving a clear warning!) – it somehow proved that the militants were evil to the core, and it was fair to use any and all means possible to destroy them, and damn the collateral damage.
Does anyone know who this Denis Krivosheev of Amnesty International is? Because his report was dishonest totally ==he bases his accusations on what the Kiev Ministry of the Interior says! And there is no mention of the massacres at Odessa and Mariupol??? oh and get this attempt at objectivity-the report “raised concerns about excessive force used by pro-Kiev forces” Raised concerns?” There is hair raising first person description by a woman who was tortured supposedly by Pro Russian gang but only 3rd person testimony of what the fascists have done. This is truly a dishonest work of clever propaganda filled with distortion, half truths and big, big sins of omission. Jeez, all my frail illusions that someone has integrity in the West are being shattered!! I suppose Drs. Without Borders will the next to have clay feet? If so, please be kind, fellow bloggers.
There are English language public blogs out there, obviously based on information coming from Russia, that openly go much farther than what Saker is saying in this post, giving detailed analysis of propaganda and operational strategies. I’ve learned that Russian intelligence and warfare operations exist on many levels, you can never tell for sure what is really happening, but even when you think you’re pretty sure what’s happening, there’s never any actual evidence.
Also, western analysis makes some fundamental errors in failing to understand the meaning of the word ‘Russian’, and what ‘Ukraine’ actually is – at least western propaganda simplifies it to the point of failure – but also their actions betray some major flaws.
One thing for sure though, the US is attacking Russia and Russia will defend.
“While Borodai accused Kurginian of spreading Ukie or US propaganda, I personally believe that Kurdinian’s role is to reassure the Russian public that enough had been done by the Russian civil society (nobody has ever mentioned any aid from the Russian government).”
The Russian government isn’t fooled by Kurginyan, nor what what behind his attempt at sabotage:
Рогозин: Кургинян устроил провокацию в пользу киевской хунты
http://www.novorosinform.org/news/id/2506
Rogozin: Kurginyan arranged a provocation in favor of Kyiv junta
“Vice Premier of Russian Government Dmitry Rogozin has commented the visit of the political analyst Sergey Kurginyan in Donetsk. “I think it is a trick of the substance and the form of ugly. To arrange a circus on the war is not permissible. To drive “snowstorm” (this is the most soft definition of what he said at Strelkova and communication of Novorossia and Russia) is a provocation in favor of Kyiv junta,” Rogozin said. “I’m disappointed in Kurginyan,” said Russian Deputy Prime Minister.”
Rogozin is being rather “charitable”, given his role in relation to the Kremlin, it’s obvious the Russian government considers Kurginyan to be trying to cause division and doubt among Novorussians, and their supporters, for the western fascists.
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excellent analysis
Gayle said…
Russia just wrote off 90% of Cuba’s debt – $32 beeelion – to USSR. What will they get in return?
payback’s a bitch. ;-) for all of those years in the wildness, for the s*it in Pankisi Gorge and surrounding areas…
But Cuba has also potential in an area that Russia lacks:
http://www.espicom.com/cuba-pharmaceutical-market.html
and biotech
http://archive.wired.com/wired/archive/12.12/cuba.html
CONFIRMED FALSE:
Apologies for bad judgement (resulting from optimism) posting it, which won’t be repeated: my comment (first in this thread, re: Up to 20 tanks, APCs enter Ukraine from Russia…) has been confirmed false by Juan here:
July 11th Ukraine combat SITREP by Juan
Larchmonter445 said…. “Could you give us a list of the Atlantists-Big Business who are the fifth column working against the national aspirations of RF and undermining Putin at every opportunity?”
I do not know specifics nor can I confirm…. but I assume they are major international corporations primarily in the sectors of telecommunications, media and finance; for example, Google, CNN, Facebook, Twitter, HSBC, Citibank, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, etc.
Any Ukrainian units that launch missiles into Crimea should be told that they are on a suicide mission.
With the knowledge that the militia is being paid, Ukrainian military personnel that don’t like what Porky is doing will make an easy decision to switch sides.
In the beginning Germany was all in with the Empire, but now they see the ship is heading for the rocks.
Just for my own clarification: these Atlantic integrations would rather see an anti Russian Ukienazi state, right on Russia’s door step, than to aid Novorussiya? Have I got that right? Isn’t Medvedev in that camp?
вот так has a bee in his bonnet over Israel re organs issue.
If i had the opportunity to clarify the organs issue and Israel, I would do so. There are some facts re Israel which is why there is a serious problem over there with organ transplants.
However that does not make the whole people of Israel complicit in this. The state needs to be get its house very quickly and very very harshly to stamp it out.
I don’t share the vision that Israel is the boogeyman of the world. Otherwise there is a danger of sounding like one of those pro Kiev Banderite re Russia and russians.
Lastly I am not going to enter in a battle of words or wills over this on Saker’s blog.
But we need to stay focused and keep the events globally unfolding before us in a rational perspective.
End of comment
Yours aye
Le Dahu
ps Saker: plase feel to do as you wish re this comment.
Gayle, and the pessimist,
Yats may be holding his fire-sale now bc he needs the money but also there might not be much of anything left if he waits too much longer
the pessimist,
Standard & Poor’s rating system has been compromised at least since Enron if not well before, and hubris and greed sure look like they provide a higher high than any drug on the market. To my knowledge, there’s no known cure, but locking up every last one of them and throwing away the key would be an awfully good start… Also, given the outrageous “findings” reported by Amnesty International, maybe we should all try to find which — if any — American institutions (of any sort) have not yet been taken over and/or corrupted by the Empire in all its financial and/or military-security glory.
@ anonymous @ 18:03
Indict Russia for what ? What everyone who reads this blog knows is happening ? Russia is protecting its national interests. If there were support for sanctions there would be sanctions (real sanctions that is).Beyond that there is nothing Europe or the US can do. I retract that -they could be supplying Ukraine with frontline NATO weapons -but they aren’t. AND THEY WONT.
To 18:17. Interesting report on Snowden. A year ago I wanted to believe he was legit. It was all so tidy. His job in Hawaii. His escape. He and the girlfriend (who has dropped-off the face of the earth). His roles at both CIA and NSA. Snowden’s obviously a bright guy. But he didn’t tell us anything we didn’t already know or imagine was true. He gave his info to known “gatekeepers”. This Intel was mum on the only things that mattered — i.e. 1) who executed 9-11 (CIA-Mossad); 2) that data on all US citizens and allies is routed through Israel/Mossad; and 3) the USG shadow gov’t is ENTIRELY dual-citizen Zionist neo-con/neo-Bolsheviks. Nothing Snowden has provided to his MSM pals provide any substantive information. In fact, his limited-hang-out has only made it easier for them to operate in the open. Which means THEY benefit — not US. Boiling frogs indeed.
Snowden’s mother is jewish. His girlfriend (the exotic dancer) is also jewish. Her father worked in intel. Patterns always reveal TRUTH. You just have to look for them.
It’s pretty obvious there are competing factions within the US military, Intel and gov’t. Some folks unhappy about the ZIONIZATION of America and its institutions. Snowden is working for one or some combination of those groups. NOTHING should be a surprise to anyone who pays attention.
The more they lie and deceive the fewer illusions we have to carry with us. Our load is lighter and less dependent on their lies. Today, I have little interest in Snowden. I hope — for his sake — he has a large check deposited by Greenwald & friends in some bank account somewhere. He’ll likely need it for what’s to come.
The person I most admire is William Binney. He’s the real deal. And they’re trying to kill him off slowly. God bless that man.
Press-Conference of Alexander Borodai and Igor Strelkov, Donetsk, July 10, 2014
http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/2014/07/10/press-conference-july-10-2014/
“…Statement Made by Kurginiyan
…Alexander Borodai: Allow me also to add something to the issue of Messr. Kurginyan’s statement. As for me, I, frankly speaking, had a very strong inclination, a very strong desire to arrest Messr. Kurginyan, and the sole obstacle to his arrest was the opinion of Messr. Strelkov.
This is because I consider his statement not only to be rude to the core and also impermissible in its content, but also an element of the enemy, of Ukrainian propaganda. And I would not have held Messr. Kurginyan for long – I would have simply sent him back where, judging by the essence of his statement, he came from. [In other words,] to the Ukrainian positions. Because the impression he made was that he works entirely for the benefit of the Ukrainian propaganda machine. In essence, directly fulfilling its orders.
Naturally, various rumours of all kinds arose that Messr. Kurginyan came here not just because but at the bidding of someone from Kremlin or from one of Kremlin’s towers. I can that, being a professional in my field, and since I was in Moscow while Messr. Kurginyan made his statement, I made the necessary inquiries.
As it turns out, Messr. Kurginyan was not representing any Kremlin structure while he was here. This is politely speaking. Neither any pro-Kremlin, nor even a near-Kremlin structure. He came here at someone else’s bidding. And I think that the interests that Messr. Kurginyan was serving here are to be found far to the west of the city of Moscow….”
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IC of Russia announced the names involved in war crimes in DND and LNR
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/2725-sk-rossii-ozvuchil-familii-prichastnyh-k-voennym-prestupleniya-v-dnr-i-lnr.html
“The Investigative Committee Of The Russian Federation named surnames punishers Kiev juntathat is implicated in war crimes on the territory of Donetsk and Lugansk national republics. Information on this was published on the official site RF IC.
So, murder Anatoly Clanaoperator First channel suspected commander of division of the Donetsk anti-aircraft missile regiment Colonel Malaman. According to investigators, he personally gave the order to shoot to kill peaceful civilians who in the result of which he was killed Anatoly Clan.
The statement says: “Also, according to the investigation, to conduct punitive operations against the peaceful population of the participating heads of the army aviation of Ukraine Pistruga and Slipchenko, commander of the operative housing “North” Kolesnik, commander of the 51st separate mechanized brigade jackow, the commander of the artillery group Papchenko, the pilots of the Armed forces of Ukraine Mamchur, Pogorely, Alimpiev and Ishchenko, commanders and heads of battalions “Azov”, “Aydar”, “Dnepr”, “Donbass” Spar, Gonchar, Melnichuk, Birch, Semenchenko, and other persons from among the commander of the Armed forces of Ukraine, heads and members of “National guard” and “Right sector”.
Also Markin said that RF IC take measures to establish the whereabouts of these individuals to conduct with them further investigative actions. “We have the firm conviction that no one related to punitive operations in the South-East of Ukraine, including the killings of Russian citizens, must not and will not walk away from responsibility, ” said Markin. – Those who are involved in this, from artists and ending with the customers must know about it”.
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Gayle 17:49
That is the standard plan under on IMF sponsored piratisation of a country. In Russia, Yeltsin was conned into piratising Soviet national assets. Prior to the sell off, typically the organization manager’s name was put on the sale documents as effective owner. Unsurprisingly these individuals became enormously wealthy when the assets were sold below real value. In Ukraine, I expect Kolomoisky’s name to appear in many instances, along with those of other oligarchs and their favored supporters. Maybe a Biden or two might get a look in?
Dear anonymous,
This is par for the course for these so-called human rights organizations. Please see this Truthseeker program on how NGO’s really operate.
http://rt.com/shows/the-truthseeker/ukraine-war-ngo-documents-726/
There’s also a recent report on this from NGO Monitor
http://www.ngo-monitor.org/article/breaking_its_own_rules_amnesty_s_gov_t_funding_and_researcher_bias
You should also dismiss the credit ratings agencies, none of which ever thought to downgrade the US debt although it was clear the ratings were unwarranted. The only western based agency that downgraded US debt ended up investigated and charged themselves.
http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1365171513724#.U8BfbGK9KSM
Can you trust anything coming from them?
It turns out is a long time associate of the Yeltsin crowd of western 5th elements who are now hostile to Putin and a Russia independent of anglo/zionist control. This devastatingly thorough article exposes Kurginyan’s connections in great detail, as well as his long, loyal service to the zionist half of the anglo/zionists. Posted in its entirety so everybody can see it without web censorship hassles.
Kurginyan: the Israel trail
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/voicesevas.ru/news/analytics/2671-kurginyan-izrailskiy-sled.html
“Well-known political analyst Sergey Kurginyan unexpectedly army landed in Donetsk and launched a massive media attack on Minister of defense of the Donetsk national Republic Igor strelkov. Experts are puzzled and build the various hypotheses about whose order does Kurginyan, as it is obvious that such a dramatic appearance on the stage Sergei Ervandovich could only be his own initiative. Someone needed to Kurginyan all of a sudden appeared in Donetsk and started making aggressive attacks on the Strelkova risking their reputation and destiny created movement “the Essence of Time”.
Something very serious and someone very influential had to give the order to Kurginyan that he obediently fulfilled the function of “media-kamikaze”.
Who is it? There were different versions. Were offered the following options: Vladislav Surkov, Rinat Akhmetov, the former head of the presidential administration Alexander Voloshin. Deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Yevgeny Fyodorov said that the speech of Kurginyan planned U.S., Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Council DND Denis Pushilin accused him at a “fifth column”, as Prime Minister DND Alexander Borodai – in the work on the oligarch Kolomoisky.
“Well, last unbelievable,” says the man in the street. And it will be wrong. Actually the Kurginyan with Kolomoisky binds very much.
So, what do we know about Kolomoisky? One of the richest people of Ukraine, owned financial-industrial group “Privat”. The Jew by origin, religious Jew. Kolomoisky – member of the Board of Trustees of the Jewish community of Dnepropetrovsk, the leader of the United Jewish community of Ukraine, head of the European Council of Jewish communities, and the President of the European Jewish Union (EJU). Since 1995 is a citizen of Israel.
Name Kolomoisky has repeatedly surfaced in connection with activity in Ukraine in contact with the Israeli and American special services network organizations “Sokhnut” Jewish Agency for Israel), the network of schools and institutions of the Chabad-Lubavitch, network ORT, American Jewish distribution Committee “joint” and other Kolomoisky, as we know, one of the main sponsors of the Maidan and “Right Sector”.
The majority of Jewish organizations of Ukraine in contact with both Israeli and American special services demonstratively supported the Maidan. Despite active Russian propaganda, visokiausiu “antisemitism” the crane right, became a shock force of a coup, as leaders of Jewish organizations and Jewish oligarchs of Ukraine supported it “fascists”and not Russia…”
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P2 of: Kurginyan: the Israel trail
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/voicesevas.ru/news/analytics/2671-kurginyan-izrailskiy-sled.html
“As noted Israeli writer Israel Shamir: “the Jewish oligarchs of Ukraine: Kolomoisky, Pinchuk, Rabinovich – not only support the junta, but also help to Israel. According to rumors, Kolomoisky going to transfer to Israel documentation missile complex “Satan” (“Voevoda”, according to Russian nomenclature), which is stored on the famous Yuzhny in Odessa, and from this’t refuse. Moreover, to support Russia in Ukraine mean to quarrel with the US, and Israel is not going to do. People who argue that Israel supports Russia, are confused and do mislead”.
What we know about Kurginyan? So, as an expert and analyst emerged during perestroika, with vernoudinsk swore ideas debunking of Stalinism and supported the restructuring. Advised the coup, after which the coup went to prison, advised the White House and Rutskoy with Khasbulatov, after which they went there, the head of the “Theatre on the boards”, in the 90’s was close to the Russian oligarchate, Yeltsin and the presidential Administration. And Kurginyan is a staunch advocate of the interests of Israel in Russia. Do not believe? Then we give the word to him:
Sergey Kurginyan: ” Russia and Israel – a common enemy” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZrzkRcoLsQ
So, in the opinion of Sergei Kurginyan, Russia has struggled to maintain main ally in the middle East – Israel. Original, isn’t it? However, on lobbying support of Israel in the Russian society Sergey ervandovich does not stop. Now he prefers not to speak but just a few years ago Kurginyan defiantly bulged facts of their cooperation with Israeli intelligence, Mossad.
In Israel, there is founded by Mossad and Israeli military intelligence of the international Institute for counter-terrorism, which is headed by former Director of the Mossad shabtay Shavit. Sergei Kurginyan speaking at the conference that Israel Institute – link http://vimeo.com/63014568
According to the website of the Institute, Kurginyan their frequent guest and until recently were constantly on the activities of this Israeli patterns: [ http://tinyurl.com/ofdu67j ]
By the way, rumor has it that an old friend and ally Sergei Kurginyan ovchinsky VS son of the famous criminologist, Professor of the Higher school of MIA of the USSR, according to sources [http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/zlobnig-v-2.livejournal.com/116516.html ] in the beginning of 90-ies was held on the case of operational audits of the KGB in connection with unauthorized contacts with members of the Israeli security services. In particular it was about Alabina-Levav, Mossad agent, who attended the meeting of the Experimental Creative Center (etc) of Kurginyan, where he received the information. Opportunities to verify this information and say that all this was so we don’t have, but in the light of further Pro-Israel activity of Kurginyan and the joint Israeli scouts conferences above Ovchinsky and Kurginyan, they are revealing.”
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AGS 18:14
The Cuba debt write off is an excellent move. I wonder if Putin is going to hint at a replay of the Cuban Missile Crisis. The propaganda story is the Kruschev was caught in the act of moving nukes to Cuba, Kennedy called his bluff and Kruschev blinked, removing the missiles.
The reality is that America had previously moved nuclear missiles into Turkey. Kruschev ran the Cuba move in the expectation of a trade – no missiles in Cuba for no missiles in Turkey. The Yanks agreed on condition that the deal was kept secret as Kennedy didn’t want to be called out as being soft on Commies in the run up to the election.
In this replay, maybe Putin would put ABM interceptors in Cuba. The deal – Cuba for Poland etc. Maybe actual nukes. That would be interesting as the US seems very averse to bullying states armed with nukes. Interesting times.
All in all, a nice bit of jujitsu by Putin.
He has pulled off China. Is in the process of pulling in the BRICS. He may succeed in making France / Germany see reality rather US fantasy over Ukraine. Russia has already made strong actions to claim and guard resources in the Arctic. Now throw in the Cuba gambit. What next – a petition in Alaska demanding secession from the States and incorporation into the RF? Now that would be something, even if it was only a false-flag propaganda stunt.
P3 of: Kurginyan: the Israel trail
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/voicesevas.ru/news/analytics/2671-kurginyan-izrailskiy-sled.html
“Since 2004, the etc is [ http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/www.kurginyan.ru/partners.shtml ] a co-founder and member of the International Community of Academic research Organizations and counter-terrorism (ICTAC).
About it says on the website of Sergey Kurginyan. And ICT argues that this is associated with Jewish Israeli intelligence Institute and founded this international structure. It is necessary to think Kurginyan was societal this Community together with people from Mossad.
In the events of ICT and ICTAC regularly participate American experts, including from Russophobic Atlantic Council, the US Ambassador in Israel and representatives of the foreign and defense Ministers of NATO countries (in particular the Netherlands). Together with them posedet at one table and Kurginyan. You can see some of these friends of man, preaching ideas of “SSSR”, below: [ http://tinyurl.com/mkxkurr & http://tinyurl.com/kzsdrsc ]
In the early 2000s Sergey ervandovich actively carried to Moscow of Israeli security forces, intelligence and military and they willingly responded to his invitation. This was discussed and it was proposed joint strategy not only in the sphere of combating terrorism, but also on key issues of foreign policy positioning of Russia.
In fact, Kurginyan openly acted as the agent of influence Israel.
A few examples:
In 2001-2006 Kurginyan organizes [ http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/www.kurginyan.ru/clubs.shtml?cat=53 ] in Moscow the following seminars: “the World after September 11. The place of Russia in it and Israel (2001-2002).”, “Middle East strategic problems of Russian – Israeli workshop (Moscow. 4 December 2006).”, “Russia, India, Israel: strategy of development” (Moscow, June 29-30, 2006)
In the last event, among others took part:
Yaakov Amidror, former head of the Analytical Department of military intelligence of the Ministry of defense of Israel
Isaac Ben-Israel, former head of the research Department of the Israeli Ministry of defense
Vladimir Ovchinsky (the same), Advisor to the Chairman of the constitutional court of Russia
The Shabtay Shavit, former head of the MOSSAD.
And Israeli tycoon, former “aluminium king” Black Lion
In 2007 Kurginyan in Moscow conducts [ http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/www.kurginyan.ru/clubs.shtml?cat=59 ] Russian-Israeli workshop on “New trends in international politics: a view from Russia and Israel, which brings the following persons, again associated with the exploration and power structures of the Jewish state:
Lieutenant-General (RET.) Moshe Yaalon, honorary member of the Board of Directors of the Center Salema, Jerusalem; former chief of the General staff of the Israeli army
Major-General (RET.) Eitan Ben-Eliyahu, co-chair of the Israel national Museum of science; member of the governing Board of the University of hibru, Jerusalem; former commander of the Israeli air force
Brigadier General (RET.) Joseph Kuperwasser, Vice President, Global CST (security policies), former head of the Department of analysis and research of Israeli military intelligence
Martin Sherman, a political consultant and the participant Program safety studies, tel Aviv University
Alexander Libin, co-Director of the Israeli Center for scientific collaboration with countries of the CIS and Baltic States”
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P4 of: Kurginyan: the Israel trail
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/voicesevas.ru/news/analytics/2671-kurginyan-izrailskiy-sled.html
“In 2009 Kurginyan in Oetz again holds [ translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/nadkin-muzh.livejournal.com/50424.html ] the session of the Permanent Russian-Israeli workshop entitled” New world: opportunities, position, configuration”. It involves:
The shabtay Shavit, former Director of the MOSSAD;
Yaakov Amidror, former head of the Analytical Department of military intelligence of the Ministry of defense of Israel;
Eitan Ben-Eliyahu, the former commander of the Israeli air force.
These are just a few of the many joint events, held by Sergei Kurginyan, together with the Israeli scouts. So close and demonstrative cooperation unable to build on further contemplation…, At least clear that Kurginyan works with Israeli intelligence and doesn’t hide that fact.
So, and Kurginyan Kolomoisky and work at the same centre, his name Israel. Devotion to Israel Kurginyan and Kolomoisky share and the official representative of US state Department Victoria Nuland and her husband, one of the leading American neo-conservatives Robert Kagan. Support of Israel is one of the key moments of the foreign policy doctrine of the neo-conservatives. They believe that the U.S. and Israel – one vragi common interests. Nothing like?
Their interests in the conflict in the former Ukrainian Israel outlined clearly enough, he actually supported the US without bringing the matter, however, to an open quarrel with Russia. Ukrainian oligarchs with Israeli passports in his pocket Fund punitive battalions and create their own state within a state, conducting “decentralization on Kolomoisky” and pressing the assets of competitors. Against this background escapade another figure, closely collaborating with the various bodies in Israel, it is not surprising trick out of the mind of the old man.
Yes, Kurginyan may execute the order of one or the other oligarchic groups, in particular Akhmetov or Kolomoisky, as suggested by experts and leaders of DND. Moreover, that experience on oligarchs to Kurginyan not hold. In 1996 he became the initiator of the famous “Letter of thirteen” Russian oligarchs (among whom were odious Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Newsin, Smolensk, Friedman), being persuaded to support Yeltsin in the 1996 election. Then the whole group MENATEP (Khodorkovsky and Nevzlin), according to [ http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A45jYEE5Zk ] the Kurginyan, didn’t get out of it etc. This is confirmed by information from a trusted source famous Ukrainian blogger Dmitry Zygobranchia: “Kurginyana agreed to meet in Kharkiv with the Korban in a warm and friendly environment”. Korban is Deputy and business partner Kolomoisky. Let me remind you that another Deputy Kolomoisky Filatov 6 may 2014 in the media project “Jewish Kyiv has identified the following objectives of this group: “What to do with those who sincerely desires the death of my country? With enchanting Russian idiots, I sincerely do not understand why we are ready to kill them? With sneaky Russian journalists, and which people to call it is not possible? With all the hosts of evil spirits? Tomorrow is a new day and the Sun comes up. And what will do all these evil spirits?
With Kolomoisky the Kurginyan still more in common than with Akhmetov. However, more importantly, external curator, geopolitical centre, which are both the same.”
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P5 of: Kurginyan: the Israel trail
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.ru/voicesevas.ru/news/analytics/2671-kurginyan-izrailskiy-sled.html
“Appearance in Donetsk of Kurginyan is a challenge of this geopolitical centre, which needs neither Shooters, no new Russia or a strong Russia or Putin, which is based on the folk revival, to the people’s heroes, such as Shooters. He needs Maidan in Moscow, the contrast between the patriots and the most passionate part of the Russian people fighting in Novorossia and worried for the new Russia, Putin. He needs Putin in the role of the new Milosevic, who passed Serbs in Krajina and Bosnia, and then distraught color revolution, strike force which became disappointed in him patriots. “Putin is incompatible with life of Russia”.
It seems, everything is obvious. – Dmitry Antipov”
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Anti NWO:
Any information on the other parts is appreciated
Periodic acts of sabotage are carried out in Kharkov, Zaporizhiya, and recently Odessa regions.
From what I read, these regions themselves, as well as Kherson and possibly elsewhere are filled with Ukrainian checkpoints outside of towns on the roads to try to catch pro-Russians on the move throug Novorossiya, and which show you the total level of distrust of Kiev and West Ukraine in the inhabitants of these areas, who essentially live under military occupation. Dnipropetrovsk is in its own special situation living under the terror regime of Kolomoisky.
The Ukies have been increasingly infiltrating the ‘Novorossia Gap’ along the south east margin close to the Russian border. The Novorossian forces have taken control of Саур-Могилы near Saurivka. This is one of the highest points in Doentsk, and is on a bend in the Gap. From here they can monitor Ukie attempts to deliver supplies and ammunition from the open end to the south and the disposition of Ukie positions towards the closed end in the direction of Sverdlovska. The border is less than 15 km away (Grad range) so this point fully blocks the Gap. Apparently there are mines laid to complicate any Ukie attempts to move by night.
olivegreen 17:58
A BM-21 launcher fires a salvo of 40 rockets. I would imagine one or two salvos would be sufficient for a relatively confined target like the 79th camp.
cardinal points said…11 July, 2014 20:35
“вот так has a bee in his bonnet over Israel re organs issue.
If i had the opportunity to clarify the organs issue and Israel, I would do so. There are some facts re Israel which is why there is a serious problem over there with organ transplants…”
This may sound strange to you, cardinal points, but not everybody approves of the grotesque Israeli institution of human organ theft and trafficking. In fact, you may be very surprised to find out that the vast majority of people find the practice to be disgusting and very criminal. That this institutional organ business of the Israeli mafia also involves murder, not just ghouls scavenging the freshly dead, puts the whole vile enterprise in the realm of cannibalism.
That you would seek to excuse such despicable criminality when it is Israelis doing it, says as much about what you are about, as does your offensive libelous innuendo intent regarding myself for me having posted info about the crimes and your not so subtle attempt to influence Saker to close down discussion of these Israeli crimes in the Ukraine.
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Since “Snowden” appeared on thread,…
he stated in an interview with German reporter, which is recorded, and available on line,
he was trained to go behind enemy lines and organize activities as a force multiplier.
So he is a trained fifth column guy.
This now includes location, and figure of speech, since he is so prominently behind enemy lines, in the hearts and minds of so many propaganda thralls.
Mark Sleboda put this post up on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/gramsci/posts/10152374544199425
In Spanish, perhaps you can translate:
http://euskalherriasozialista.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/ucrania-y-internacionalismo.html
http://euskalherriasozialista.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/batallon-vostok.html
http://euskalherriasozialista.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/el-batallon-azov-una-fuerza-paramilitar.html
On the origins of Ukrainian Fascism:
http://euskalherriasozialista.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/origenes-del-neofascismo-ucraniano-i.html
http://euskalherriasozialista.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/origenes-del-neofascismo-ucraniano-ii.html
http://euskalherriasozialista.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/origenes-del-neofascismo-ucraniano-y-iii.html
Sale of national resources and obliteration of social protections is standard IMF protocol. Actually this fight in E Ukraine is useful to the IMF because it enables them to blame the complete destruction of the Ukr social net on Russia. Otherwise no Ukr government could live, something the last guy figured out before Maidan.
вот так —I agree with you 100 %.
I absolutely agree with your words and I quote you:
“That you would seek to excuse such despicable criminality when it is Israelis doing it, says as much about what you are about, as does your offensive libelous innuendo intent regarding myself for me having posted info about the crimes and your not so subtle attempt to influence Saker to close down discussion of these Israeli crimes in the Ukraine.”
Israel has too many crimes on its record…Why should Israel’s heinous(and they are MANY) crimes be covered up, unless the person trying to cover these crimes is a Zionist or Zionist fan?
A Zionist for sure.
The love and loyalty for the criminal entity that is Israel, cannot be contained by these Ziocaine addicts.
Carmel by the Sea said…12 July, 2014 17:03
“вот так —I agree with you 100 %.”
Cheers.
“The love and loyalty for the criminal entity that is Israel, cannot be contained by these Ziocaine addicts.”
“Ziocaine”? What is that?
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